The Myth of Dual Handguns

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Vickers Tactical

Vickers Tactical

Күн бұрын

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@hardware199
@hardware199 8 жыл бұрын
Larry leaves something important out of account: You have to jump while dual wielding. That improves your aiming very much.
@hardware199
@hardware199 8 жыл бұрын
+1 “Aphid” Person And you also have to hold your handguns sideways (gangsta style).
@adamfrazer5150
@adamfrazer5150 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha brilliant ! Nicely done 🍻
@Firstanold
@Firstanold 4 жыл бұрын
He looks like he has never in his life remembered that jumping is an option.
@yo-no9879
@yo-no9879 3 жыл бұрын
You cancel out the inaccuracy by adding more inaccuracy :P
@wes788411
@wes788411 6 ай бұрын
Also, he didn’t account for bullet time.
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical 10 жыл бұрын
I know dual wield never works in practice (this is hardly the first publicized test), but you should at least use identical handguns to eliminate extra variables.
@ERprepper
@ERprepper 9 жыл бұрын
***** agreed
@TheProfessor529
@TheProfessor529 7 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@code_boogie7519
@code_boogie7519 5 жыл бұрын
It also wouldn't be crazy expensive to do either, i mean you could go with 1911's or glocks and get some really affordable deals
@eclipsewrecker
@eclipsewrecker 4 жыл бұрын
FrankDaTank1218 *almost never works
@jonathanellis7758
@jonathanellis7758 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@KingPeaceus
@KingPeaceus 9 жыл бұрын
But what if you're trained in Gun-Fu?
@actually4660
@actually4660 7 жыл бұрын
Donald Neal lol
@TheBakedLizard666
@TheBakedLizard666 6 жыл бұрын
Donald Neal it's actually called akimbo but " gun Fu " as you call it is a real thing.
@istachi
@istachi 6 жыл бұрын
What is Gun-Fu?
@ericdraven3420
@ericdraven3420 5 жыл бұрын
@@istachi pick a john woo movie you'll understand
@MarkelScott100
@MarkelScott100 3 жыл бұрын
Or gun kata
@StuffyMc
@StuffyMc 3 жыл бұрын
What I really wanna see is somebody doing legit daily training with two pistols as soon as they turn 21 and seeing what they can do with it after a few years of dedicated practice. I still don't think it would be particularly effective, I just think it would be fascinating to see the human limit of skill with such a weird and unintuitive task.
@StuffyMc
@StuffyMc 3 жыл бұрын
@the_bearded_schlub I guess they don't have to be, it would just be easier because they don't legally need supervision. What's with the pervert furry thing though? Complete non-sequitur.
@StuffyMc
@StuffyMc 3 жыл бұрын
@the_bearded_schlub Missed the "legally" part, huh?
@StuffyMc
@StuffyMc 3 жыл бұрын
@the_bearded_schlub okay you’re a troll, done with this
@chocolatemilk4437
@chocolatemilk4437 2 жыл бұрын
Sure plenty of cowboys did this. Its a lost art form
@Standforwhatsright33
@Standforwhatsright33 2 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatemilk4437 That's what I was thinking. I grew up on cowboy action. Practiced it myself. It is doable. I found I was better with my dominant hand and using my non dominant hand as an individual shot back up.lol I think in practice it can be practically used. For example one pistol pointing forward and second used to clear a room/corner.
@peterdvornik
@peterdvornik 10 жыл бұрын
He did it wrong. You are suposed to hold both pistols in front of you with your arms locked, firing both pistols simultaniously at one target. These tests were not designed to be objective, they were designed to make dual pistols fail.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 9 жыл бұрын
***** It think for the most fair shake the heftiest gun in the most moderate of calibre, like a CZ-75 in 9x19mm. Why a .45ACP?
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 9 жыл бұрын
***** Or at the very least, he just didn't care that much about succeeding. I think he was sure from the beginning this myth would be 'busted', so to speak, so didn't give it its all.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 9 жыл бұрын
***** Knowledge is at the mercy of diligence. I don't think he was committed to rigorously apply what he knew, as I ascribe to the maxim 'never attribute malice for where negligence will reasonably suffice'. It doesn't make sense that he'd TRY to deliberately screw up akimbo-pistols. What makes more sense is that he'd be uncommitted.
@johnanderson2346
@johnanderson2346 7 жыл бұрын
I also think it was unfair that in the walking drill the dual pistols only had 3 rounds each, and the single had 6. The whole purpose of using two pistols is to increase your ammo capacity. Obviously your going to lose some accuracy ,but if somebody wants to kill you, you're not going to care about efficiency. You just want to shoot him until he dies.
@signs80
@signs80 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is by the time you walk the guns on target you are probably going to be hit first unless you are within ~6 feet of your target
@angelhr79
@angelhr79 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, just one question, how long did you practice shooting with two guns? I mean the myth is of someone who is proficient at dual wielding...that means you don't just go one day to the other thinking you can dual wield to the upmost proficiency you could.
@sealclubber1383
@sealclubber1383 9 жыл бұрын
You forgot one main mathematical equation. You're showing accuracy vs volume of fire. You need to show accuracy BY volume of fire hahaha
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 7 жыл бұрын
Also the question is of use. The people I know who favor two pistols only aim with the dominant handed gun. Off hand is suppressive fire only, and they have fairly specific tactical requirements.
@philp411
@philp411 8 жыл бұрын
I still pick 2 guns. I only use one at a time though.
@mryayayify
@mryayayify 7 жыл бұрын
like in "Dual wield snubnose revolvers, Part 2, It can actually work"?
@Am-ch2cm
@Am-ch2cm 5 ай бұрын
yeah i feel like that word work perfectly, esp with training. if you learn to shift your focus between the two guns then theres no reason why u wouldnt be able to do it
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 10 жыл бұрын
Mr Vickers, everyone knows that the two gun method (Florentine Technique) is the only proper way to clear a room of multiple opponents. Of course it involves spinning around and firing while hanging upside down from a chandelier while the bad guys are circled around a conference table. Next video...maybe? :-)
@psychobeam99
@psychobeam99 10 жыл бұрын
Is that a Punisher reference?
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 10 жыл бұрын
psychobeam99 This advanced technique has been in a few movies. That makes it true...right?
@psychobeam99
@psychobeam99 10 жыл бұрын
NuclearGrizzly Makes it plausible. Can't believe Mythbusters haven't tried it.
@SigShooter9mm
@SigShooter9mm 10 жыл бұрын
Hitman reference, maybe?
@M82400L
@M82400L 10 жыл бұрын
He probly doesn't think that you can actually 'curve' bullets neither. Nor dodge them. Close minded Delta Force dudes:(
@gregrizal5043
@gregrizal5043 9 жыл бұрын
Dual handgun looks cooler. But I agree, its impossible to aim at your targets using both. I will probably use the right one accurately, and use the left to shoot wildly just to keep the left targets diverted.
@XxdjforrestxX
@XxdjforrestxX 8 жыл бұрын
Art of duel wield requires 2 identical guns
@greenmachineG23
@greenmachineG23 8 жыл бұрын
Fact. things work best in pairs, especially when it comes to fine motor skills
@murderlesson101
@murderlesson101 7 жыл бұрын
Then how does max payne dual weild an uzi and a revolver?
@samuslover7129
@samuslover7129 6 жыл бұрын
Like how the Lara Croft(original) wields two of the pistol.
@samwayne8961
@samwayne8961 8 жыл бұрын
dual wielding is more of a ambidextrous person type thing.
@pkennedy0219
@pkennedy0219 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Vegas yup I’m ambidextrous and I can akimbo shoot pretty fucking well
@cgoins1993
@cgoins1993 3 жыл бұрын
Amphibious*
@danielamador5932
@danielamador5932 3 жыл бұрын
@@cgoins1993 alright Chris Washburn
@curticcarmichael3580
@curticcarmichael3580 3 жыл бұрын
I had t look up ambidextrous but I agree
@JA-oo9qp
@JA-oo9qp 3 жыл бұрын
I think Larry is ambidextrous
@alvaradobrown1
@alvaradobrown1 4 жыл бұрын
2:48 I could have sworn I heard him say “let’s check out the t*ts” lmao 😂
@TWANGnBANG
@TWANGnBANG 10 жыл бұрын
Fun video, Larry!
@chanceblevins6682
@chanceblevins6682 5 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken. I believe the dual wielding pistol concept came from the original single action revolver. I believe those old revolvers were meant to be shot one handed from horseback primarily was the idea. And, since it was meant to be shot one handed you can easily use two at the same time it allowed you an additional six shots without reloading.
@skyychaos26
@skyychaos26 10 жыл бұрын
In video games you use two of the same guns on the same target, what were the results of that test?
@g1llifer
@g1llifer 4 жыл бұрын
I always dual wield at the range. 60% of the time, it works every time.
@jesstenhower4847
@jesstenhower4847 7 жыл бұрын
I would try it again with lasers on each weapon. Green one on the left, red one on the right. Wouldn't need to aim down sights, and you could potentially put a lot more firepower accurately downrange
@tebelel7150
@tebelel7150 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I’m doing now, getting a Gen 5 G17 with a red laser while my Gen 3 G17 has a green
@trmohr
@trmohr Жыл бұрын
They should also get some sharks and put frickin’ lasers on them too
@wkeil1981
@wkeil1981 10 жыл бұрын
22 is the real mans caliber
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 10 жыл бұрын
lol
@murderlesson101
@murderlesson101 7 жыл бұрын
.2 pinfire is for real men
@sergiusvonpfaffen
@sergiusvonpfaffen 7 жыл бұрын
tough guys carry flobert only)
@thesadprepper3722
@thesadprepper3722 6 жыл бұрын
wkeil1981 Bullshit nerf dart is the real mans caliber obviously
@notforsaletoday1895
@notforsaletoday1895 6 жыл бұрын
wkeil1981 *.177
@hnfiiinc5993
@hnfiiinc5993 9 ай бұрын
ADS with duals is like asking for the dumbest physics problem.
@angelhr79
@angelhr79 8 жыл бұрын
I also have to say if you want to see what is possible by dual wielding pistols then go check out a video by Jerry Miculek, that guy actually practices dual wielding with impressive results...unlike this guy.
@greenmachineG23
@greenmachineG23 8 жыл бұрын
fact!
@spooky4233
@spooky4233 8 жыл бұрын
Angel Huerta Larry Vickers is a retired Delta Force guy. Jerry is a competitive shooter. Dual wielding in combat is a bad idea.
@KretinoSantino
@KretinoSantino 8 жыл бұрын
Dual wielding isn't about practice. It's about predisposition. You can train everything but very few will get good results. Most people can barely use their left hand. Very few can not only use precisely their left hand, but also in cooperation with right hand. For example, I can swim breaststroke for 3km's, pretty fast, with really efficient technique. But when I try crawl .... I look like I'm drowning. I can't cooperate my arms and legs that well. Other example. Even if I'm not playing Minesweeper for many years, my non-flagged time is still in world top 100. Around 2005, I was possibly in world top 30 players. But I'm not world top 100 fastest calculating brain. But out of those who can calculate simple tasks that fast, I'm out of very few who can simultanously breefly register values on up to 200 squares. And having constant full focus on ~100 squares at any given time.
@GunManGunHand
@GunManGunHand 8 жыл бұрын
El Shuwix is right. Vick is military while Jerry is Competition shooter, there to different breeds of the same animal. personally I have always favored Jerry M. over Vick because while Vick says "no, it's not practical." Jerry had always been "let's push the limits." and that's the different between the 2, that's why Jerry can do 6 shots reload and 6 shots in 2.99 seconds. "you want to be the best... be the first one on the range and the last one to leave." dual wielding isn't a myth, it's just something no one has really practice... practice..practice... practice, that's how you get good at anything, all these skills are perishables and if you don't train it, you loose it or look shitty at it.
@KretinoSantino
@KretinoSantino 8 жыл бұрын
Stephen Esperson You've missed my point. Practice isn't universal solution. If you haven't got the gilf, you will not make it far no matter how much you practice. Just try to shave your beard with left hand. Dual weilding is a myth. Because barely anyone is physically capable to be as effective as with 1 handgun. No matter how much you practice, the left hand will be almost useless for most of the people.
@borat5225
@borat5225 8 жыл бұрын
oh please. First time I shot guns I missed every shot. with practice anything is possible. even shooting a coin in the air whit hip fire.
@levlev.1028
@levlev.1028 6 жыл бұрын
Borat yeah I have a uberti 357 saa and I can get 6 shots off in .4 seconds longer then my 9mm glock and can hit pop cans every shot at 30 yards just point shooting, I just worked at it for a year, oh yeah and when just trying to get one shot off I can hit a penny at 20 feet 29 of 30 shots
@charlescarr3909
@charlescarr3909 6 жыл бұрын
fps _iron im a quick draw and single action guy myself. idk if i believe you for a second you can fire 6 rounds in .4 seconds. your timing if off or you are faster than bob munden and jerry miculek. which i can guarantee you are not or i would have heard of you. with a pt92 i can unholster rack and fire in just over a second. post a video if this you shooting 6 in .4 for me please?
@charlescarr3909
@charlescarr3909 6 жыл бұрын
i read your comment all wrong im just with stupid sorry lol.
@levlev.1028
@levlev.1028 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Carr .4 seconds longer then glock*
@Asymmetrical.athlete_
@Asymmetrical.athlete_ 10 жыл бұрын
Let's see Jerry Miculek do this one
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 10 жыл бұрын
He has. It was cool and still was able to hit targets faster with one.
@tonydeadlock
@tonydeadlock 8 жыл бұрын
+John Doe its just different practicing he practiced single more then dual so that's already inaccurate.
@tonydeadlock
@tonydeadlock 8 жыл бұрын
***** I dual wield in arcade shooters all the time. Some dual wield in airsoft some also dual wield with real guns. You are generally better at what you do the most that is all I am saying.
@edder7157
@edder7157 7 жыл бұрын
TheTyrial86 but he was STILL just as accurate! Every shot was a hit!
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 6 жыл бұрын
here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGiqXqaFeJhgqbM
@garethalford682
@garethalford682 8 жыл бұрын
I bet if someone was really a really good trick shooter or practiced with duel wielding pistols on targets for long enough they'd be accurate
@xpStratosferic
@xpStratosferic 9 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed about Larry's accuracy, you definitely can tell that spec ops operatives are worth their reputation. Hats off sir.
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah but duel wielding looks cooler. And we all know it's better to look cool and miss than to look bad and hit.
@psychobeam99
@psychobeam99 10 жыл бұрын
Not really no.
@thewatcher_476
@thewatcher_476 9 жыл бұрын
+mozzberg being dead is better than looking bad :P
@TrehanCreekOutdoors
@TrehanCreekOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын
Certain tactics work well for some situations and not so good for others. As you demonstrate, if accuracy is what is needed in a given situation, the best approach might be to empty the first gun, flip the other gun across to the strong hand, and then empty it,
@dustin1931
@dustin1931 9 жыл бұрын
What about dual wielding miniguns? haha
@thewatcher_476
@thewatcher_476 9 жыл бұрын
+Dustin Stevens the accuracy would be over 9000 :P
@Delta4280
@Delta4280 9 жыл бұрын
+TheWatcher _ or it'll rip your arms off.... but at least ya won't miss
@thewatcher_476
@thewatcher_476 9 жыл бұрын
Delta4280 you don't need those anyways
@dasschadenfreude7333
@dasschadenfreude7333 8 жыл бұрын
The only game where dual-wielding makes sense would be something like the Halo sequels, where the protagonist is both highly physically strong and assisted by powered armor that has built-in recoil compensation as well as targeting reticles on his HUD that indicate the point of aim.
@dasschadenfreude7333
@dasschadenfreude7333 8 жыл бұрын
Well, not to get too deep into semantics, but one could just aim the onscreen reticles at the same target. In the accompanying novels, it does also detail experimental operations that he undergoes which increase his reaction time and mental processes, which theoretically could perhaps help with switching targets and whatnot, but again, it's fiction. And I agree, aiming at two targets with two weapons is pretty much impossible.
@Shinobi1Kenobi
@Shinobi1Kenobi 3 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Action Shooting (CAS) Gunfighter Category specifically includes shooting 2 revolvers (Left and Right) with integrated movement, target selectivity, drawing from holsters, for scores based on time and accuracy. Those of us capable of shooting well with a pistol in each hand refer to the rest of y'all with slight condescension as two-handed shooters. These events go on all over the country virtually every weekend. Nationals typically have about 700 qualified shooters. There is a sub-category of CAS known as Wild Bunch matches where the revolvers are replaced with 45 caliber 1911s, lever action rifles must be at least 40 caliber, and only allows pump action 12 ga shotguns. The "myth" is that you can aim 2 pistols simultaneously at 2 separate moving targets (or while shooter moves) and engage them successfully with any reliability whatsoever. But a skilled 2 pistol shooter whose CNS is wired ambidextrously...or who has trained very hard for many years to overcome the lack of athletic intelligence he/she was plagued by...can increase speed without substantial loss of accuracy at typical pistol fighting distances. It is NOT a Hollywood legend, and who cares how video games apply to actual gunfights or how to shoot 2 imaginary guns in a virtual simulation for fun. In the end, the only advantages of engaging with 2 pistols is that you get twice the ammo between reloads (which now take longer), you can more quickly acquire flanking or "blind-side" targets (don't have to turn and face them nearly as often), and your belt is balanced better. These advantages are a bigger deal with SA revolvers and more primitive firearms, but there is also a time and place where it could be advantageous with mag fed autoloaders. FYI, the IDPA and USPSA shooters tend not to encourage CAS experts to join their "tactical" clubs or shoot in their comps. I know a guy who won the federal LE 3-gun comp in Artesia 3 years in a row with a revolver about a decade back. They "retired" him and made him a judge after the 3rd win. He isn't a myth. He's a LEGEND!
@Shinobi1Kenobi
@Shinobi1Kenobi 3 жыл бұрын
Someone asked for the Jerry video of this. Here it is! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5iyn36ud7Chd9U
@hey12358y
@hey12358y 9 жыл бұрын
Myth busted, but Larry looked pretty badass with two guns.
@zvotaisvfi8678
@zvotaisvfi8678 2 жыл бұрын
😂 yeah old. Guys with guns look "badass"
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 10 жыл бұрын
I imagine it's more practical to use the "one forearm supporting the other, only one gun firing at a time" style, especially with revolvers.
@markstarling6092
@markstarling6092 7 жыл бұрын
one of the key points of dual wielding or shooting in general is you have to be used to it if you were to practice shooting dual wielding eventually you would be good at it thats how i learned i ended up taking a day off of work and shoot a few 100 rounds till i was able to do point instinct shooting with both guns
@zvotaisvfi8678
@zvotaisvfi8678 2 жыл бұрын
Wow u still good at it?
@spacebunz
@spacebunz 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo!
@foxtrotgolf5698
@foxtrotgolf5698 10 жыл бұрын
There is no better mythbuster than someone legendary like Sir Larry. Thank you Sir.
@engineerskalinera
@engineerskalinera 8 жыл бұрын
dual wield might actually work if both targets are close to each other. holding the guns closer to each other and using the space in between to aim or going left to right with both guns not one right one left might help the accuracy too.
@godofwar2222z
@godofwar2222z 8 жыл бұрын
Its not too fair of a test. Since I'm guessing you don't have much dual wield experience.
@MandenTV
@MandenTV 8 жыл бұрын
Lmao Larry was a Delta Force Assaulter...
@godofwar2222z
@godofwar2222z 8 жыл бұрын
Lol even if that was a real thing. No branch of military does dual wield training..... Its not the old west anymore sadly.
@MandenTV
@MandenTV 8 жыл бұрын
godofwar2222z Probably not but I think it's a safe bet that this isn't the first time Larry's dual wield at the range.
@pratik1568
@pratik1568 6 жыл бұрын
Its a movie myth kinda like wielding a hip mounted minigun it looks cool and badass but aint practical
@alexw.2988
@alexw.2988 3 жыл бұрын
"dual wield experience"
@KatotownUSA
@KatotownUSA 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not an experienced shooter, but one time I was shooting at plates with 2 pistols and I took down 2 headsized plates simultaneously from maybe 40 feet away. It felt pretty cool :)
@justas423
@justas423 3 жыл бұрын
Downsides of akimbo: 1. Reloading takes way too long. 2. You're holding each weapon with one hand, increasing the recoil and thus decreasing your aim/accuracy. Also, the guns don't run down the center of your sight, effecting your aim even more unless you hold them both real close to your center. Pros of Akimbo: 1. Shoot more bullets. 2. Snap-target with the individual arm instead of moving your entire body. 3. You look really fucking cool.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m 3 жыл бұрын
It’s only plausible to effectively use two guns if you’re extremely good at point shooting (with both hands obviously) in a very close quarters environment. But 99% of the time it’s likely more efficient just to use two hands on one gun.
@tjstalker2357
@tjstalker2357 10 жыл бұрын
cant wait to pick up one of your limited addition FDE glocks. Love your videos DAWG
@5887MXX
@5887MXX 10 жыл бұрын
I think the real test for dual wielding would be 4 (or however many) targets lined up, and you go from left to right/right to left getting 4 (or however many) on each target, I'd like to see that comparison.
@kungfupro
@kungfupro 6 жыл бұрын
You should train with two guns for a long time first and then record this video. Without this, obviously you will feel more comfortable with one gun, because this is what you've been trained in.
@FALPhil
@FALPhil 7 жыл бұрын
A man's gotta know his limitations. I once saw Mike Venturino shoot 2 balloons simultraneously that were 45 degrees apart from where he was standing at a range of 15 feet. It can be done. I believe Vitaly Kyruchin has the ability to alternate with 2 pistols very quickly. Shooting two handguns accurately has been a staple for trick shooters for around a hundred years. It takes lots and lots of practice.
@nateo200
@nateo200 10 жыл бұрын
If my ass was on the line and someone handed me two identical pistols and said use both I'd take the mag out of one stuff it in my pocket and just use one pistol. I'd like to be able to hit my targets thank you....Even if you were some ambidextrous point shooting God splitting your focus is never good if its not needed.
@claytonking8306
@claytonking8306 9 жыл бұрын
id do the old new york reloaad
@ERprepper
@ERprepper 9 жыл бұрын
Clayton King same
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 9 жыл бұрын
nateo200 Unless they were revolvers.
@nateo200
@nateo200 9 жыл бұрын
KageRyuuUji Unless they were revolvers indeed. NY Reload is faster than putting shells in, especially without a speed loader.
@nateo200
@nateo200 9 жыл бұрын
Clayton King I'd do it with revolvers but with semi-auto's I'd be hesitant unless I magically happened to have to holsters on each hip to cover the trigger guards. Never liked putting a loading semi-auto in my pocket without something covering the trigger.
@DavesIneosGrenadier
@DavesIneosGrenadier 9 жыл бұрын
I am surprised at all the people suggesting more training time on using two guns at once would be a good idea. Better using that extra training to improve your skills on one gun, reloading, shooting either hand and in a variety of positions. Once you have rapidly emptied both magazines how the hell do you reload them? Put one down/holster reload the other and then repeat??? Ok if only a paper target shooting back at you.
@anvior45
@anvior45 8 жыл бұрын
The only sanctioned military/police use of the idea of using two handguns i think is pre-revolution Russia, where their 'secret service' of the time had the idea of using two double-action revolvers (Nagants i imagine) to lay down supression, a volume of fire as you got your VIP out of there. Later of course, SMGs/Machinepistols and in very recent times PDWs fullfill that role. , where bodyguards might lay down automatic fire, of course to hit the bad guys, but the supression is just as important.
@smuckwap
@smuckwap 8 жыл бұрын
I like to play "Last Man Standing" with a pair of .45s I have, and I can get the hits, but the last time I did it, I had a failure to feed on the left gun and a jam on the right, and I found myself holding two malfunctioning guns and thinking to myself - "I'd be TOAST!"
@000datazero
@000datazero 7 жыл бұрын
You should do another movie myth: shooting sideways.
@ArizonaTengu
@ArizonaTengu 9 жыл бұрын
Somebody hasn't read up on EdcGivern. He did exactly this with superb accuracy using two S&W revolvers. Both guns pointed at different targets. The spread was within a playing card. All five shots landed inside those deck cards.
@joep9723
@joep9723 7 жыл бұрын
When Larry does it it's science,when I do it I'm being unsafe,and I'd be better if I just went home...
@stevelindsey5560
@stevelindsey5560 7 жыл бұрын
LAV is deadly... :) Rock on!
@michaelsanchez8457
@michaelsanchez8457 3 жыл бұрын
Watching dual wielded double 45's yestereday on another channel. I think he did miss once. But he is pretty much a trick shooter, and nothing like a normal person's capability.
@Maniac742
@Maniac742 8 жыл бұрын
What I learned from this video is that Larry Vickers is not Jerry Miculek.
@Marcodiazgrey
@Marcodiazgrey 3 жыл бұрын
Firearms shooting levels to master duel wielding two pistols in a real gunfight: Most Balanced Pistol with the most stable caliber for the shooter's hands. 1) one pistol two hands correct sight alignment and firing fundamentals. Static targets and then dynamic. 2) one pistol right hand only correct sight alignment and firing fundamentals. 3) one pistol right hand only transition from target to target. Static targets and then dynamic. 4) Then use the left hand with the same practice as the 3 other steps. 5) Two pistols two hands with double grab mag reload technic and static targets only. 6) Two pistols two hands with moving targets and double grab mag reload technic. 7)Duel wield two pistols in a simulated combat environment until mastered. 8) Now it can be used in real combat. Pros: Speed and more bullets with different angles of engagement. Where the target has to get the correct alignment to shoot. The duel wielder point and shoots his target with accurracy. Wasting fewer bullets. Put targets down very quickly. The potential to disable targets before they can shoot is high. Con: Slow reload and Duel wielder can get his arms shot more if careless. Reload time can increase dramatically if errors happen when reloading.
@InfuriatedHawk
@InfuriatedHawk 9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure with a lot of practice you could become a bit more accurate, but you'd have to have independently tracking eyes to make this practical. Shooting one gun accurately will always reign superior over a dual wielded spray and pray.
@tater0909
@tater0909 7 жыл бұрын
When is the next 1911 build class and where?
@VickersTacticalLAV
@VickersTacticalLAV 7 жыл бұрын
Austin Texas in summer 2018
@StrikeTeam99
@StrikeTeam99 10 жыл бұрын
That was great, even if one were strong enough and could memorize the guns reticule mentally. One gun is way superior. Great test, would be interesting to see if any of the movie myths actually work at all.
@TykiMikki
@TykiMikki 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is ex-delta force. He is a master of every weapon system known to man. Dual wielding is just a terrible way to equip your self. Its Not cause he spent more time training with one.
@BigPoppa23
@BigPoppa23 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@CAGuns
@CAGuns 10 жыл бұрын
Love these movie myths (busted)!!
@HellishSpoon
@HellishSpoon 9 жыл бұрын
How about burst pistols? I want to see every weapon used in duel
@droidzilla22
@droidzilla22 5 жыл бұрын
Never figured it should be used for anything other than providing cover fire in a fire fight so that you keep targets down under cover while you transition to a new spot.
@MackeyDeez
@MackeyDeez 11 ай бұрын
Dual welding is only good for suppressive fire but, take note you'll be vulnerable because you have to come out of protective cover just to fire both pistols
@Callsign_Kishin
@Callsign_Kishin 8 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, in order for dual/akimbo style wielding to work, your targets kinda have to be close together, so you can keep your two pistols close together, and be able to aim down the slides. Like Dwight McCarthy from Sin City.
@roberttaylor9559
@roberttaylor9559 5 жыл бұрын
Well that was incredibly predictable, but still fun to watch.
@AnnoDominiMCMXCV
@AnnoDominiMCMXCV 3 жыл бұрын
Two is one, one is none 😂
@hothmandon
@hothmandon 6 жыл бұрын
Way I understand it is most guns have such hard kick back that some people would rather just handle 1 at a time
@JJsAutomotive
@JJsAutomotive 9 жыл бұрын
First time ever I have seen Mr. Vickers wrong, but lets just let this one slide. :D
@Wingnut172N
@Wingnut172N 10 жыл бұрын
Is Dave a former Tomcat guy? Couldn't help but notice the patch on his arm.
@nadiakent4082
@nadiakent4082 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Solonik used dual guns in the real world a lot. Was also known for being very accurate. The long list of dead people by this hitman is probably proof enough that it can be done effectively.
@PM-hv6ju
@PM-hv6ju 4 жыл бұрын
Bravi! Good job
@zebop111
@zebop111 7 жыл бұрын
Call me if you ever need to bust the myth of playing a piano with two hands.
@josegerez2010
@josegerez2010 10 жыл бұрын
Cool gunzz dawgg
@blouieable
@blouieable 9 жыл бұрын
could you potentially get hit by launched shell casings since the guns are at same distance from your body?
@bobjohnson3077
@bobjohnson3077 8 жыл бұрын
The wielding of dual handguns is NOT shooting them both at the same time, it is shooting them alternating. If you are any way coordinated, it is effective. It is also fun.
@FrankCastle-he8fl
@FrankCastle-he8fl 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry did it on his channel
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 9 жыл бұрын
What about both pistols aimed at one target at a time the aim being to put two bullets in each target. The idea with twin-pistols is you point both simultaneously and squeeze off a shot from both at the same time at the same target then move to the next target. In theory, quicker than aiming and shooting twice at each target.
@Shimotivater
@Shimotivater 8 жыл бұрын
sight shooting is always better, and since you can't sight into two targets at the same time you're relying purely on hand eye coordination. It's a very different style and I doubt Larry trains for it. One-handed, off-handed, point shooting is required to dual-wield. I've seen a video of a russian guy who was spot on accurate dual-wielding glocks. Training to fire your weapon with either hand one handed is a useful skill set either way though.
@ZeroStriker426
@ZeroStriker426 9 жыл бұрын
getting accurate shots with dual wielding is impossible, because when you hold a gun with one hand and you pull the trigger, the movement of your finger and the weight pressing on the trigger causes very, very slight deviation in your aim, which is really more than enough to make the gun point somewhere else. And trust me, you wouldn't want your gun firing at something (or someone) you didn't intend to shoot.
@crucifyrobinhood
@crucifyrobinhood 9 жыл бұрын
+ZeroStriker426 Substituting "any firearm held offhand" for "dual wielding" is really more informationally complete. I learned to shoot with a Sheridan Blue Streak in .20 cal. When you work that hard for each shot you learn to take a freaking rest unless you just plain don't have time. In a hunting sitch this means; DON'T SHOOT, VERNE! Having said all that, the greatest shot of my 14 year life was an offhand snap at a dove in the top of a ponderosa pine 100 yds away. Stoned the bird, but lost it in the 120' tree. Luck, meet Karma. See, I clearly didn't give a shit if I wounded the bird so I was unworthy of the bird regardless of my luck. At least that's how it looks at 48.
@jimbeam2299
@jimbeam2299 Жыл бұрын
Larry looking like Inspector Tequila
@t4nkychannel921
@t4nkychannel921 9 жыл бұрын
Two guns did better than I expected. That being said, I wonder how he would do using the other hand?
@happymonkeyfish
@happymonkeyfish 10 жыл бұрын
I dont think anyone who knows even the least bit about real guns, came to this thinking that the dual wield technique was going to be efficient or effective.
@dennislloyd494
@dennislloyd494 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see single gun single-handed right-hand and vs left-hand.
@Happymali10
@Happymali10 9 жыл бұрын
***** Would've liked to see the alternating use of two guns: Two Targets, further apart horizontally. Bring one gun up, line it up with one target, and shoot as you bring the second gun up on the second target. Combines the faster follow-up shooting of dual handguns with the precision of being able to use the sights.
@ew10j4turbo
@ew10j4turbo Ай бұрын
Imagine shooting at the same time to the target will receive double quantity of shots at the same time
@benjamindanielsen5204
@benjamindanielsen5204 5 жыл бұрын
I assume it'd be quite possible to dual wield with acceptable accuracy *if* you were using laser sights on an identical set of pistols. I still wouldn't consider it to be an ideal tactic, but it'd definitely be better than nothing in a worst case scenario.
@ZorroinArkham
@ZorroinArkham 3 жыл бұрын
What about shooting with one hand and only switching if you run out of ammo?
@Standforwhatsright33
@Standforwhatsright33 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion. Can't necessarily call this a myth. I think you guys should revisit this, and look for guys that train with it. In my experience. I grew up on cowboy action shooting. Last I knew there were guys out there who dual carried. Not necessarily to dual wield but for other practical purposes. In example. Coming into a hallway and covering end to end. Having the pistol as a back up. Using one in a dominant hand for main purposes and the other for back up purposes. Using one pistol to point ahead, the other to clear a room. Doc Holiday, and alot of other guys carried 2 pistols for a reason. There's also a reason why people position their holsters the way they do as well. Some guys/gals are just comfortable with these things. I would love to see something more in depth and compared to current practicality.
@nupepresident
@nupepresident 9 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is suppressive fire on multiple targets while engaging the primary targets. If you have four targets engaging you, it doesn't matter how fast or accurate you are, four on one, you loose. But you can at least try to suppress targets with the secondary pistol while engaging your chosen primary target or move to cover....
@nupepresident
@nupepresident 9 жыл бұрын
I do agree that "Game play is not Gun play"....
@davonphillips22
@davonphillips22 2 жыл бұрын
Well in some scenarios like getting attack from two different angle by multiple attackers you might need to dual wield. In a very tight situation
@intecrisis
@intecrisis Жыл бұрын
Considering people like tom knapp can get so in tune with their weapon they don't need direct aimpoint to do accurate shots, I think you could learn this if you tried to
@jasonarmstrong5750
@jasonarmstrong5750 7 жыл бұрын
The only time I've ever seen using pistols akimbo work was when playing one of those old arcade machines with two guns meant for two players, in my experience it made the games a bit easier, not a lot but enough to get further than you would on a single player single gun play through. Only downside is you're going through twice as many quarters.
@dioarya6275
@dioarya6275 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Armstrong Yeah, I saw a guy in Thailand playing House Of The Dead 4 while dual wielding once, and he was awesome and kickass and he makes the game looks easier
@yassinahmed456
@yassinahmed456 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the whole idea of carrying two double stack pistols is to be able to pass an ally a pistol in a situation that calls for it that may not make sense if you're engaging on an open field. In CQB in urban environments an individual can conceal a pair of pistols and engage hostile subjects in a relatively target rich environment (apartment building, city homes, barricaded individuals.)
@kienhwengtai8113
@kienhwengtai8113 3 жыл бұрын
Reloading duel welding guns makes it even more awkward ...
@MrRodrigods
@MrRodrigods 2 жыл бұрын
Two pistols shooting at the same target standing
@ShawarmaFarmer
@ShawarmaFarmer 10 жыл бұрын
How effective is point shooting one handed ?
@EdSuastegui
@EdSuastegui 6 жыл бұрын
Good demo, but not entirely fair: 1. Demonstrates lack of training with two guns (rather than flaw). 2. Better to use matched/identical guns. Still, most of us aren't good at multi-tasking. I'd go with one gun too.
@VickersTacticalLAV
@VickersTacticalLAV 6 жыл бұрын
What video game do you use dual wield handguns on ?
@itzdon8088
@itzdon8088 4 жыл бұрын
Realistically you’ll be shooting at a moving target , there’s a lot that goes into an actual shootout you can’t practice , but I’m sure these guys have more experience than me
@spraynpray
@spraynpray 10 жыл бұрын
I like the serious approach to something we know is ridiculous. Science!
@markarthguard4180
@markarthguard4180 10 жыл бұрын
thats not an example of science at all... an example of science would be space battles would be entirely silent because there are no sound in space
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