The Myth of the 1950s

[@BritMonkey]

Full disclosure: I have never read the Hagakure, I saw the quote in the movie Ghost Dog starring Forest Whitaker. It's a pretty good movie and you should watch it.

[@2totabon]

“Even if one's head were to be suddenly cut off, he should be able to do one more action with certainty. With martial valor, if one becomes like a revengeful ghost and shows great determination, though his head is cut off, he should not die.”

[@mrdupreez9061]

Ghost dog!

[@kfaIcon]

bruh

[@masscreationbroadcasts]

I... Really? A 15 minute Progressive "ha, don't Conservatives know their nostalgia about the past isn't how the past was like" video in which you use as half your conclusion a quote from a book you never read? Good thing you admit it, but that's what's worth 2 videos in 5 months? A 13 minute recap and slight expansion of your Georgism video from 4 years ago and this unoriginal shlock? I've probably seen 4 videos with this very message already. Answer honestly, did you lose your vision? Ok, not every video you make can be a "Bangladesh" or a "Packed in Thailand" or a "Housing Crisis" or a "Graffiti" tier quality, but THIS couldn't have taken more than 3 days script righting, sourcing, recording and editing. I mean it. Do you need an inspiration?

[@vistagreat9994]

@@masscreationbroadcasts I mean, probably. He'll make a banger video next time, but this is not our christmas present, chief.

[@GhettoGuide-wg7gd]

There’s an old saying “life is better remembered than lived” and that statement holds true throughout history

[@JmKrokY]

I mean that's literally how our brains remember, we mostly remember the happy and the good times in our life

[@VikingTeddy]

You kids don't realize how bad things really are, you just don't know any better. Back in my day they made clothes that fit, sofas that were easy to get up from, and beds that didn't leave you tired. They've now put something in the water that makes you get up several times to pee in the night. And the tv shows talk about things no one understands!

[@GhettoGuide-wg7gd]

@@VikingTeddy looking at your profile picture, i would say that couch thing worked in you

[@VikingTeddy]

@@GhettoGuide-wg7gd Oh, that's me like 8 years ago. Been doing a lot of "bodybuilding" since...

[@clementpoon120]

i do like the look of people in the 50s though

[@pensivepenguin3000]

Nostalgia is selective memory combined with a healthy dose of fantasy. For example, I was a kid of the 80s and it’s easy to imagine it was all sunny days, water balloon fights, Saturday morning cartoons and G.I. Joe’s, but if I’m being honest, I would say the percentage of happy days to unhappy days was probably exactly the same as it is now

[@sladewilson377]

Very true

[@naomistarlight6178]

I was really poor during my childhood. Which happened to be from 1990 to 2008. I missed out on a lot of the trends people get nostalgic about now. Now I buy myself toys I couldn't have afforded back then.

[@billjohnson1111]

Ecclesiastes 7:10 - Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this.

[@V1Salvo]

⁠​⁠@@naomistarlight6178that’s awesome! Not that you were poor xD, but that you’re buying them now!!

[@chikaka2012]

And also being a kid is almost always better than being an adult

[@ruremerjerpullche2150]

My mum had a friend who in the 1970ies said: "we are living in the good old days" Everybody thought she was weird.

[@Johnnycdrums]

There was a song about it.

[@mikess56]

@@Johnnycdrumsmerle haggard

[@firstlast-pq1tx]

People nowdays must think shes a genius

[@Johnnycdrums]

@@mikess56; Albert Hammond, and years ago, Carly Simon had released a double album by the same name. Didn't know about the Haggard one, even though I'm a fan of his work too.

[@mikess56]

@@Johnnycdrums i think we’re living in the good ol days and ramblin fever and workin man blues are my f’ing jams

[@INDUSTRIAL_WOLF]

My husband used to be nostalgic for the early 2000s. He started this around the time that the "Frutiger Aero" aesthetic got popular online. It stopped when I reminded him that he was dropping bombs in Iraq in 2003, not playing Quake III Arena on a Dell Dimension running windows XP.

[@Iuvpunch]

Why would you publicly admit that your husband is a terrorist lol

[@bluntyful]

It's not terrorism if you're backed by everyone

[@itryen7632]

I love how Gen Z just kinda gaslit itself into thinking that the 2000's looked like bubbles and shit

[@petersansgaming8783]

Although as a software dev I have to say I really like the asthetic of IT in the 2000s. Not the tech though, except for the "enshittification" that is currently the hot trend that every VC loves.

[@arthas640]

​@@petersansgaming8783I miss that weird fad where see through cases were a design choice so you could see what a skinless phone looked like

[@aprilmg7072]

According to my grandma, the 50's was full of rampant adultery, interfamilial theft, tragic avoidable deaths, domestic abuse, alcohol abuse, and use of prostitutes.

[@WolfgangSourdeau]

Those were the good old days! ;-)

[@BrazenBull001]

What the hell was your grandma doing back then

[@srpokz]

​@@BrazenBull001visiting prostitutes

[@mikaelos]

Your grandma has very good memory, not heavily affected by nostalgia

[@Simon-sr3cn]

Sounds expensive

[@Kodeb8]

The ancient Greeks idolized the past and believed they were only a few years away from seeing a total societal collapse. The opening line in The Epic Of Gilgamesh (oldest recorded story) is reminiscing about "the ancient times" before the invention of bread.

[@coolbutnotverycool1440]

any criticism of modern life or adoration of a certain aspect of the past is illegitimate because sometimes people in the past did so as well. got it mr Shinji profile picture, i bet a neon genysis enjoyer or whatever it's called is pretty satisfied with his life right no way you'd be depressed🤯

[@Kodeb8]

@@coolbutnotverycool1440 Bro calm down, I literally posted another comment somewhat agreeing with you. I do think a lot of things were better in the past, however I also recognize the past wasn't a perfect world. The reason I made this comment was the funny irony that even as far back as in ancient Greece, people were ranting about "the good ol days". The reality is we always see the past as better because we only remember the good things. This is a pretty well-known phenomena. But if it makes you feel any better, I don't think "progress" is always good, there are many things I miss that I wish hadn't changed, and I constantly find myself wishing I could travel back to a few years ago.

[@coolbutnotverycool1440]

@@Kodeb8 you do agree that people that watch that show are usually depressed though right

[@charlethemagne5466]

@@coolbutnotverycool1440 man you autistically fixating on what show he watches and completely disregarding his well written reply is pathetic.

[@RRRR-jr1gp]

Uh the epic of gilgamesh is mesopotamyan

[@brianarbenz1329]

"Never compare your life with someone else's highlight reel." That advice can be used in a chronological sense as well: "Never compare today's reality with yesterday's highlight reel."

[@herr_crustovsky]

Many things are indeed better left in the past, but it's also foolish to think we had a linear evolution and there's nothing that we could look back on and try again. I think that's the most moderate view.

[@brianarbenz1329]

@@herr_crustovsky Almost always, the problems of the present were planted firmly by the decisions of the past. For example, TV was made fully commercial and aimed at children by the powers of the '50s. The lower literacy and rise in instant gratification of the '70s should be blamed on those '50s policies, but seldom were.

[@stregalilith]

@@brianarbenz1329 Good example. But there was PBS with Mr. Rogers who really showed the kids good values, a sense of justice and a bit of how to tell truth from fiction (BS advertising, etc.). But overall, you're right and we're all suffering for it.

[@classicmoviesvault]

That is very wise

[@FranceMartin-b1g]

Hear Hear!🎉

[@UltrafalconVX7]

TLDR; Nobody wants to live in the past, they just like the aesthetic.

[@tutubism]

true, just like my love for classical music & 50s pop or victorian era clothing despite knowing the history of how unsanitary, cruel & ignorant humans used to be in those eras

[@naoestouaquii]

humans are terrible in every age

[@QTwoSix]

​@@naoestouaquiihumans are great in every age.

[@Cbb3225]

@@QTwoSixwhole agree with that sentiment. But think it’s more that we have the choice to be great, but finding purpose and meaning that provides a sense of greatness can be a chore

[@Mahoromatic]

​@@QTwoSixmore like, they're the same. we never changed.

[@thatsmallcessna8300]

Theres actually a really good movie that has this message called Midnight in Paris. The main character is obsessed with 1920s era Paris and thinks it is the golden age. When he gets the opportunity to go back to the 20s, he realizes that a lot of the people idolize the 1800s and "wish they could back." This makes him realize that there is no perfect point in history, so he stops idolizing the past and learns to make the most of the time he lives in.

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

That is honestly so beautiful. I need to watch that. I appreciate a movie like this!

[@amarylisesquilin1433]

Everyone who is able to should see it, I found it very educational, since I had heard my grandmother talk about the 1900s and 20s, she was born 1895 and my parents in the 20s, there is a lot I learned about the 1900, 20s, 30s and the beginning of the 40s, there is a lot I remember from when I was 3 y/o, I was born in 1942.

[@arnoldhemsley9317]

Amen.!

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

So let me get this straight.., a modern film made a fake version of a real time period, and presented it like it really was the time period and you believed it.

[@pgb3156]

​@@WitchKing-Of-Angmarwere you there?

[@bigbud8182]

I remember in one of Ricky gervais’ comedy specials a couple years ago when he said something like “…. Well of course things were better then, you were a kid!” It seems that people are nostalgic for the past when they were kids because of how they felt and the lack of responsibilities they had.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Childhood innocence is the greatest rose tainted glasses of all

[@AngelaMastrodonato]

Since most of the people still alive who lived through the ‘50s were kids back then, this makes sense. Another culprit is the remaining media content at the time, easily accessible on KZbin, which like today’s media was created to sell things. We’re left with survival bias from the memories of old people’s childhoods and the propaganda of the time.

[@MrChristianDT]

I think that's coupled with the fact that people were just less generally aware of how bad things could get with some people & kids would be even less aware than the adults.

[@mr.x2567]

That’s why we shouldn’t lie to our kids over the world being a good place.

[@theking8347]

@@mr.x2567 Telling them the truth is worse. Just because something is true doesn't mean it's a good thing to tell kids.

[@gameboygamer6498]

My grandma remembers the 50s. She was repeatedly denied by her father to go to college despite her academic achievements. Her dad sent her brother instead only because he was a man. My grandma now describes her brother (who lives in a trailer off of social security) a failure.

[@nathanseper8738]

That's a good anti-nostalgia story.

[@yamataichul]

I'm happy your grandmother lived to tell the story. I'm getting nauseous hearing boys be live: there are biological differences 🤮

[@HowieHoward-ti3dx]

Your grandma must be a feminist. Also, you wouldn't be born if she went to college. So think about it and thank your great granddad.

[@theminecraft_gamersxx2815]

@@yamataichul Are you stupid? Men are biologically stronger, its a literal fact. Bro its literally taught in health in like around 5th to 7th grade 💀Theres a reason why a extreme majority of frontline roles in militaries are held by men and not women. Theres a reason why most construction workers are men.

[@Innocenttazlet]

My dad had that with his eldest brother. He always got the hand me downs and such clothes toys, bikes etc.. there just the money for his brother to go to university, though my dad got into the grammar schools. There was aways a deep resentment there because of that. To think of people only having the money to invest all in a single oldest male child in hopes they will earn a good wage.

[@codyharder571]

So many men back in the 50s suffered from PTSD following the Korean wars and the world wars. Most veterans had no counseling. (Because it didn’t exist)

[@Rehunauris]

True, instead of councelling they had guys with bad case of PTSD lobotomized.

[@lizabennett7979]

I had an uncle who served in the Korean war and he was an alcoholic the whole time I knew him. 😪

[@Ziegfried82]

I mean sure, being a soldier on the front line was never easy and it never will be. Remember that very few men actually fought in Korea and Vietnam. 1,800,000 Americans served in Korea. Over 100 million people lived in the USA in the 1950s. So when you say "so many men" just keep in mind it was actually a very small percentage.

[@codyharder571]

@@Ziegfried82 I mostly meant WW2.

[@bentonrp]

Electro shock therapy. And if that doesn't work, you clap in their faces and yell, "Snap out of it!"

[@jessip8654]

There's some things that have definitely gotten worse over the last 30 years, like housing costs going crazy and an epidemic of loneliness, but yeah a lot of things have gotten WAY better, and I admit even I sometimes get caught up in the doomerism.

[@nathanseper8738]

Doomerism and nostalgia are understandable reactions to the problems you mentioned. But the mistake we're making is electing demagogues who, in trying to bring back the supposed good times, will send us backward and even make those problems worse. The antidote to this feeling of despair is to find solutions rather than give in to populist nonsense.

[@TheOsamaBahama]

For the price of housing, watch his video on housing (The Housing Crisis is the Everything Crisis) to understand why it's so expensive.

[@Tommyleini]

Yep, 90s in the UK house prices were 3.5x median annual income, now it's 9 times. Back then people worked full-time for 3-5 years, then bought property big enough for 2 adults and 2-3 children, before the age of 30. Try that now.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@TheOsamaBahama "Actually I'm pretty sure importing infinity migrants into finite space has more to do with that but whatever"

[@moosesandmeese969]

@@TheOsamaBahama TLDR unnecessary restrictions on housing construction that led to housing supply being set far behind demand due to population growth

[@Heligoland360]

I think it's reasonable to point out some things were better in the past without having to defend the position that everything was better in the past.

[@bloodbarage]

This is just a hit piece on the past. Id rather die of cancer in a factory than die of cancer in a time of great prosperity. Heart disease kills most blacks today. We still, in this “golden age of technology” still have hundreds if not thousands of unavoidable deaths every year. And the population is getting so stupid, we have had to put tide pods behind a glass wall.

[@mweleme]

With all the clever comments on this video, this one stands out as being relevant and correct. And if I may add, it also depends on the geographical location back then as is now. I remember things in the 80's and early 90's that it would be gold to see them happen again, while others such as the extreme subjugation of women and domestic violence (that was quite rampant and much frequent) that I wouldn't want to see again. It was heart-breaking.

[@nukeputin420]

This... it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that people earned significantly more for less work in the 50's. People who came of age in the 1970's talk about paying for entire college degrees with a part-time summer job. Of course younger people are getting fucked.

[@neoqwerty]

@@nukeputin420 My dad was from around that point and his job was risking life and limb in a lumber mill at 16, then getting lucky getting into the rock cover band scene and basically living in a station wagon while becoming an alcoholic to fund himself through basic med school classes and going cold turkey to qualify as a paramedic, and regretting to the end of his days that he wasn't there for me from when I was born until I was 7 and he had to retire due to a disability and he had to learn enough law to take people to court for his disability benefits. If my dad hadn't been this brilliant and good at teaching himself, or able to drag himself out of his alcoholism without support, he'd never have made it out of his 20s, and that's if he had the luck of not getting killed at 16 in a sawmill. That whole "earned more for less work" isn't an universal, my dad was still barely living through on odd jobs and gigs until he got his paramedic job that haunted him mentally even when I was a teen and he finally told me he was scared I never knew how much he loved me because he was never home when I was awake. Don't trust the "it was better"-- most people paid for that financial stability with emotional and mental damage.

[@borntoclimb7116]

Some things was better, Lot of things nowadays are better

[@darkworlddenizen]

Seeing those old outtakes was intriguing. When the acting slips off it shows how they really were back then and how they actually talked versus the over dramatized fast talk as seen in old movies. It really makes them seem more human in that light.

[@mariomulder3153]

No shit Sherlock, it's called acting

[@MaSoNGaMeR115]

Did you know that toby maguire can't actually produce webs from his wrists?

[@jacksont9455]

I REQUIRE more videos of those outtakes. That was hilarious. Also, it sounds like they used “son of a b” as more of an interjection swear back then, whereas now we use it more as a name to call someone. Subtle changes in language are so fascinating. It’s also funny to hear them go from their trans-Atlantic accent back to their normal accent

[@randomjunkohyeah1]

@mariomulder3153@@MaSoNGaMeR115 congrats on missing the point

[@devilishramen2166]

​@@mariomulder3153yes, of course. But for some of us, especially when it comes to old black and white film, it's hard to remember they're actors, and not the character theyre playing.

[@011mph]

It's funny how i already see people romanticizing years that I've been alive for. Recently I noticed a lot of people saying they miss 2016 for the music and social media era at the time. But 2016 was my freshman year of high school and I distinctly remember a lot of people at the time actually saying it was one of the worst years ever lol. I even have diary entries from that year filled with a lot of complaints about life at the time! Nostalgia can really change everything 😭

[@fartmerchant762]

People saying current year is worst year will never end

[@yildamiranda9759]

is so weird that preople nowadays have nostalgia for recent times, like 2010, 2014, 2017, 2007, 2004, even 2020 lol, that wasnt a long time ago and people talk like it was 100 years ago lol, people really hate the 2020s

[@BQD_Central]

I distinctly remember 2012 to be a catastrophic year, and many people seem to agree. I don't really can put my finger on it, but something around that time changed.

[@yildamiranda9759]

@@BQD_Central i notice that change since 2015 actually, like more cynicism and nihilist and negativism

[@yildamiranda9759]

@@BQD_Central probably because that year people where scared that the world was about to end or something, i dont know

[@Ivan-pr7ku]

History's final lesson: Reject nostalgia, embrace wisdom, build a better future.

[@Carcajou72]

Oh, come on. You can do better than that. Your description is all BS.

[@CimarronaMotions]

no

[@MaryumGardner]

💯💯

[@auntymarushkafah]

If you think the 50s were so great, you missed the nuclear drills.

[@DeathnoteBB]

What happened here

[@nathanseper8738]

"Every great empire reaches a point where going backward can seem more appealing than going forward. When the world is changing so fast, it makes us yearn for the old ways when life seemed simpler. But it doesn't mean those old ideas are good for us now."-Randy Marsh, philosopher.

[@rat_king-]

"No matter how golden an age, there will always be someone complaining that everything looks too yellow." - Randall Jarrell

[@nathanseper8738]

@@rat_king- That's a good line and it shows a golden age ain't golden for everyone.

[@rat_king-]

@@nathanseper8738 It also can imply, "You will always get complainers, no matter how good it gets."

[@nathanseper8738]

@@rat_king- Yeah that's true. XD

[@jegga9199]

*It's not about new or old ideas it's about obeying God's word and genuinely turning from your sin to Christ, something most people of all times do not do.*

[@Kim_Miller]

My wife and I married in 1975, and bought a house in 1978. One of the houses we looked had no inside toilet. It was built with one (here in Australia every house had inside toilets) but the English couple who later bought it and were now selling said to us, "There shouldn't be a toilet inside the house. So we had it removed." They'd got a plumber to install a toilet outside the back porch. Even in 1978 this couple thought that life in England in the 930s with the toilet in the back garden was the authority on household plumbing.

[@SMATF5]

HAHAHA! I think we're all susceptible to it to some degree, but this really shows just how much some people fall into the "What I'm familiar with = the right way" mindset.

[@meganhuggins7494]

We bought our first house in 1975 and it had a very nice bathroom complete with indoor plumbing! Our second house in 1979 had two bathrooms and one en suite shower room. No, we didn’t have a lot of money, all houses were built with indoor plumbing by the 60’s ( in the UK anyway) 😊

[@namechangerfre7296]

Every house in Australia didn't necessarily have inside toilets in the 70's. My grandparents, on both sides, still had outside loos in houses built in the 50's (in Melbourne) back then, as did their neighbours. We moved into a 'new build' in 1974 (in outback Aust) which had an inside toilet, but lots of older houses didn't if the owners couldn't afford to get the work done or just weren't bothered living with what they were used to.

[@chicagotypewriter2094]

Leon Leyson, the youngest person saved by Oskar Schindler, wrote an autobiography and he moved from a small town called Narewka to Krakow (large city in Poland) because of his dad’s work. It’s funny because the book - The Boy on the Wooden Box - hypes the small town up for values like family and merrymaking as a kid, but you realize how different comfort was when he moves to the city He was astounded by lightbulbs but was gobsmacked by indoor plumbing bc that meant no more cold filthy outhouses

[@eedragonr]

​@@meganhuggins7494what is more profitable to do it? Repair it or tear it down and rebuild it?

[@richardcutts196]

People who like the good old days are usually thinking about the time when they were kids.

[@Jester23456]

That “I don’t feel alive” line actually gave me chills

[@new-lviv]

She was depressed, no jokes. Not having purpose in life that you believe in with your heart, not understanding why you woke up today. To the point at the end of the video: the big w@r might be coming to West to refresh those old timer feelings. After it went here I don't believe the 3rd WW is not possible anymore. Greetings from Ukraine.

[@lemsavage9473]

Holy shit I read this before I got to that point. Now I have that was chilling

[@michelmoreno8233]

​@@new-lviv I feel so sorry for her, not only did she not understand what was happening, talking about it was very taboo and people probably told her to just get it over with

[@vapordreams983]

Capitalism

[@danhurst9048]

And that doean't happen today?

[@the_pinkerton]

It's incredible how at this point many Europeans think that life was better just a few years after the war

[@Polska_Edits]

Not in Eastern Europe generally

[@Floedekage]

​@@Polska_Editsfair point

[@the_pinkerton]

​@@Polska_Editsyes, but some from my country still think that life in the 1920/30s was better

[@shadowcelica5554]

@@europa818 Paris in the 1950s had litteral miles of slums people didnt have access to electricity and running water

[@NamePending9]

@@shadowcelica5554 They are just being a thinly veiled racist no need to engage with them

[@ijon-y4549]

I think the best way of thinking about it, is: "Some things were better in the past, some things are better today, let's find a synthesis to create the best possible future"

[@Stockbrot_]

That certainly would have been a better conclusion than "life now is superior to everything in the past".

[@rodrigoribeiro387]

Magnific position

[@kevinolsen8779]

Oh dear, people will never embrace such a logical idea.

[@Dempsey1873]

​@@Stockbrot_fr tho. This narrator sounds bitter and copious tbh. People were much more sociable back then that's just undeniable

[@ATLAS-su9wf]

Yep I agree with this!!!

[@anythinggooutside9123]

And don’t forget the smoking! Pregnant women smoke, doctors smoke while give you check up. When my dad bought the house that been in my family since my dad great grandfather we had to paint the ceiling because it was yellow. The ceiling was gradient. I remember the dining room was the darkest yellow

[@nikoc8968]

honestly, people are still inhaling carcinogens while pretending its safe, they just do it with weed and vape-pens now...and now left-wing types are trying to legalize ALL drugs...nothing has changed.

[@Tom-x3m9g]

What people really miss is being a child, not worrying about money or bills. Being young again and having your parents take care of you.

[@MarshallTheArtist]

People forget how terrible their own childhoods were too. They don't want to remember how it really felt.

[@griffins750]

Depends on what people miss, for people who like cars, like me- yes they were much less safe, but cars were also much more involving and mechanical in nature something that appeals to people who enjoy the experience of driving… And unlike with clothing it’s difficult to enjoy things like that today because of continuously evolving emissions regulations.

[@Anubis424242]

I wish I had never been born in the first place. My mom should've gotten an abortion, but she was too stupid to realize it was better that way.

[@ramaraksha01]

That is the concept of Heaven - a metaphor for the womb, childhood Religion says we can run back to the past, back to mommy A Nanny God will feed, protect, shelter, care for us and keep us in a nice bubble far, far away from real life and all its harsh realities Our OWN loved ones could be suffering, starving, sick, homeless, caught in a war facing rape, torture but we care no more! No one mentions any work being done in Heaven, no one even asks! An idle, lazy, useless, pointless, uncaring, shameless, cowardly freeloader existence for eternity! God's Grand Plan! It is not just Cons who want to run back to those good old days, we do too!

[@iISkyGameIi]

@@ramaraksha01what did you smoke to come up with that

[@meeemeee8577]

My granny now 96 years old, often talks fondly about her childhood. Yes she had good parents and lots of siblings, miracolously all but one still alive today, might I add due to the marvel of modern medicine. When she talks about the past her storys often revolve around her dad tucking her into the hay in the Bergmäder (don't know the english word, don't think there is one) so she wouldn't literally frezze to death. Her bedchamber, that she shared with all her female siblings being unheated and had frost on the pillows and blankets. A tin of sardines that she sent to her younger siblings from her workplace that they fought over because they were hungry. Forced laborers, during ww2 her dad brought potato peels and vegetables in secret and how they devoured it hungrily. The doctors household she worked in later in live and how she marveled at the abundance of food. The old sheep they used to slaughter once a year and how it tasted of sheep and fat. Her younger sibling getting pneumonia and they had to drive her on a horse ridden carriage, in the dead of winter to the doctor a few villages away and how she survived. Sure she talks about it fondly, but let's be for real this is not a live of glamour to be romanticised, it's her memories and I absolutely love to hear her talk about them, but any sane person would recognize that the lifestyle that was forced upon her is nothing to envy.

[@seabreeze4559]

All the degenerates still want antibiotics.

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

A hay bed and a living father who loves you: heance. the good old days. A good dad trumps a hard life.

[@meeemeee8577]

@@YoYo-gt5iq yeah sure, he died when she was in her 20s though of an old wound from ww1 that started to bother him again. She said she was away at work and a letter came and told her to return because her father was sick. She said when she returned the puss from his leg was so much it had to be collected bucketwise. Anyway in the end he died pretty young.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

There was a series on life in various decades. The most fascinating was 1940s House. They agree to live as people in 4os for 9 weeks. They said it was difficult but brought them closer together.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@YoYo-gt5iqnot really

[@Bubbaist]

I was a teenager in the 80s, and I got sick and tired of hearing about how wonderful the 50s were and how kids today were going to Hell in a hand basket. Now I’m tired of hearing about how much better everything was in the 80s. The funny thing is that people romanticize the 80s for all the reasons older people at the time despised it. Remember when our parents sent us out on weekends and wouldn’t let us back in until dinner time? Yes, but at the same time our grandparents were saying, “Kids these days, their parents just turn them loose and let them run wild. No wonder they’re little monsters. If they raised their kids the way we raised them, they wouldn’t be in trouble all the time!”

[@dojadog4223]

Really? I grew up in the 90s and always thought and heard the 80s were objectively worse. Sure, it had some interesting esthetics but I think many people saw and still see it as a somewhat dark decade. Although that darkness can also be romanticized.

[@taylorphillips7030]

​@@dojadog4223I grew up in the 2000s, but I always heard the 70s were the darkest days of the second half of the 1900s.

[@kiwitrainguy]

@@taylorphillips7030 I lived through the 1970s, sometimes referred to as "The Decade That Taste Forgot", but I don't remember anyone saying at the time "Wow, we truly are living in the decade that taste forgot".

[@taylorphillips7030]

@kiwitrainguy Aesthetics are one thing, but I was more so thinking of the economic crisis, Vietnam, and Watergate, at least from an American perspective

[@kiwitrainguy]

@@taylorphillips7030 Oh, OK, my mistake. The dark times for me were the early '80s with Reagan and Thatcher threatening to nuke the Soviet Union and start WW3.

[@metalrocker627]

When it comes to modern times, we live in a time now to where we could have everything we could possibly ever want, while at the same time we’re stripped of the things we really need.

[@nikoc8968]

THIS is what the creator of this video fails to understand.

[@butcherpete2286]

The lesson here? Live in the now. Not the past, that is romanticized. Not the future, that you think you need to act now to change. Just. Live. Now.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

Why has it been romanticized in the first place? Seriously I can't find ANY form of media where they glorify living in the present.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

That's cause you don't watch shows for women. Stuff like sex and the city did glorify the present.

[@irissiri1891]

Yes embrace the present world. Not the world that you used to live in or you'll never adapt (ex: use of technologies)

[@Diogo85]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 Because nostalgia is like a drug and it's one of the most powerful drugs.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

​@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 this is the job of the future people.

[@rclrd1]

Recall Dicken’s opening lines of ‘The Tale of Two Cities’: _“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,...”_ It seems to me that this is true of many historic periods, including that of the present and that of our childhood memories.

[@eedragonr]

It seems they escaped Scrooge at that time

[@theageofaustin]

it was the blurst of times

[@SStupendous]

@@eedragonr Indeed, a Christmas carol is c.1843-44 and this book is 1859. Amazing even in that time how much had changed.

[@ramaraksha01]

Heaven is a metaphor for the womb, childhood A time when we were fed, protected, sheltered, cared for and kept in a bubble away from facing or even seeing the harsh realities of life Religions promise us that we can run back to those happy care-free days! A Nanny God will feed, protect, shelter, care for us and keep us in a nice bubble away from facing or seeing the harsh realities of real life Our OWN loved ones could be starving, sick, homeless, caught in a war facing rape, torture - but we care no more! No one mentions any work being done in Heaven, no one even asks! An idle, lazy, useless, pointless, uncaring, shameless, cowardly freeloader existence for eternity! God's Grand Plan! It is not just these conservatives giving in to these fantasies

[@enta_nae_mere7590]

I believe the "peasants had more time off" is two-fold. They had more designated religious holidays but those were days of prayer, fasting etc, not exactly free-time. And secondly they may have had less work hours but they had significantly more unpaid domestic labour and little to no disposable income.

[@blugaledoh2669]

Peasant didn’t have much luxuries anyway so having disposable doesn’t matter too much except as savings.

[@WalnutOW]

Because a priest would go to everyone’s house and hit them with a stick if they weren’t fasting and praying

[@niono1587]

its apples to oranges, it's a different lifestyle not comparable to ours but that doesn't mean its better or worse necessarily.

[@theowainwright7406]

I know someone who runs a farm basically solo, it is an almost 24 hour a day job and makes no money

[@lug358]

Well some people were not christians before all that many festivities were pagan. I think thats the same thing this video talks about, maybe they seemed very religious but at the core they were as human as we are today

[@kat8295]

My grandmother was a sort of housewife in the 50s. She worked as a teacher after she got married and hid her pregnancy for as long as she could so they could have more money saved away. Once she showed, she got fired for being pregnant. She cooked, cleaned, sewed, made clothes, gardened, and my grandfather respected the work she did. He was one of the few men who actually liked and respected his wife. A lot of men then didnt. My hrandmother started writing and became a fulltime writer after her 4th baby.

[@magnusferdinand]

You have to also account for the fact that the 50’s saw a huge boost in economic growth due to the industry left by WWII, and the “suburban experiment” initially allowed houses to be very affordable for almost everyone at the time.

[@tuftyterror983]

That’s probably why the 50s are seen as a golden era, that and I think that kids had more freedom and innocence then. But like with any decade, things back then weren’t so great and are better now.

[@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Exactly we want the good parts of the 1950s with modern values and convenience

[@tuftyterror983]

@@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu yes

[@ligondesenuts769]

@@tuftyterror983 Domestic abuse was rampant in the 50s

[@tuftyterror983]

@@ligondesenuts769 Thats why I said there was bad stuff

[@springss1861]

Omg, the behind the scenes of the actors just makes them so much more human. They speak like normal people we would see today. The weird tone thing just vanishes. Really puts into perspective how that type of spoken mannerism was just stylistic choice and not how actually people spoke back then

[@dagreek3480]

"Humans back then where still humans". No shit Sherlock. Let me guess you also believe that the average man was abusing his wife.

[@shawn576]

A lot of the TV speaking was a holdover from plays. When you're on a stage, you need to speak loud and clearly so everyone can hear you, and a lot of TV actors were play actors before that. Now that we have microphones (or better microphones), actors can just talk like normal people and we can still hear what they are saying. Sound equipment in the past was incredibly shitty, so a person talking in a normal voice might not be picked up properly, or it might not be recorded properly on the media available at the time. When the Beatles were recording music, sound equipment was so primitive that they would physically get closer to the microphone or farther from the microphone to do a fading in or out effect. Now, you just record that on separate tracks then fade them in or out with software. A lot of things in the past seem stupid, but they were doing it because they were trying to get around technical issues or a lack of technology available.

[@CătălinaMaria1896]

You just have duble standards. People aren't robots. They still speak naturally.

[@grassytramtracks]

It's so easy to fall into the nostalgia trap, I find myself feeling nostalgic for the COVD pandemic because life felt simpler, everything slowed down and felt more open. When I remember how miserable and anxiety-inducing it was wallowing around at home procrastinating all my schoolwork and wondering if this purgatory will ever end, I noticed that I've been looking back way too rosily

[@MaryumGardner]

With me it was the 2000s (I'm older Gen Z, born in '99) until watched video essays and read articles how the 2000s were disrespectful towards women and girls (Britney Spears and other female celebrities) and there was less representation of POC and neurodivergent people like myself and Islamophobia (I'm on the spectrum and a Jamaican-American Muslim).

[@ursulasmith6402]

Covid is a fake virus fabricated by the European union.

[@MerlinTheCommenter]

​@@MaryumGardner😂 The 2000s were OK, it was mainly Indians and Pakistanis who got the brunt of racism back then. The 90s, 80s and 70s were absolutely awesome, on the otherhand. It's all about the kind of person you were. If you are some politically obsessed dweeb using feminism as a coping mechanism for being an incel, then yeah, those eras would suck for you. Every era, actually, kinda sucks for you, in that case. What's the saying? "If you're a loaer today, you'd be a loser yesterday." Something like that.

[@retrocomputing]

@@MaryumGardner why do you need representation as a neurodivergent? Let's say, now we don't have representation of people with Cerebral palsy anywhere, in movies, games, on TV. What does it really mean to you?

[@raphaellavictoria01]

I already want to go back to 2010! not bc of any marriage thing, but bc everything was just normal. No one was looking to be offended, no one was claiming to be a victim (a victim, therefore the world owes them), there was no censorship on social media, we had freedom of speech and opinion. Everything was GREAT! 2000-2018 forever!

[@BruceBoschek]

I was born in the USA in 1941 and grew up in the 1950s. Married couples didn't divorce, but cheated on each other, drinking was rampant, kids were bullied, cars rusted away in a few years, everyone smoked, racism was the norm, corruption was prevalent, TV was B&W and everyone drank frozen orange juice. I hated it all and left the States as soon as I finished college.

[@nikoc8968]

couples still cheat... _then_ divorce, leaving the children with a broken family. drinking is still rampant, but now that drink is chased with a bump of coke or a bag of dope. kids are still being bullied, but now it *follows them home* every day in their pockets. brand new cars were easily affordable by anyone with a full-time job back then, and they were works of art. everyone still smokes, its just now they smoke weed or crack instead of cigarrettes. racism is still the norm, its just now YOU AND I are the targets, despite whites doing more for minorities in America than anyone anywhere else in history. corruption is still prevalent, have you seen our current president? you have a point, TV was in black and white and maybe more people froze their OJ than they do today...but man, if you really look at the best and worst aspects of both time periods, youll find that life was certainly more *fulfilling* back then. sure, we have more cheap creature comforts now, but not what we NEED as humans to be happy.

[@NICK....]

I think this ends up being part of a coping mechanism for a lot of people. The present is tangibly better than the past in most cases* but it still has many many problems and those problems can push people into latching themselves on anything that can (at least in their mind) make life better, maybe it's a political ideology, maybe it's religion, or maybe it's a time period. They don't _really_ want to return to the past, they just want friends and family that care about them, a better economy, less work etc etc and in their mind that's synonymous with the past because it's easier to think that salvation is just a couple decades away and that there was a time when we had everything figured out and everyone was happy when that's all just a mirage to the end goal of an actually better world. * I have done 0 research on the subject but I feel that the people of places ravaged by, say, colonialism were quite a lot happier _before_ being ravaged.

[@ibrahimalee23]

Honestly well put

[@RRRR-jr1gp]

Honestly, even when REALLY bad stuff happened things still tended to get better over time - Afghanistan has lower child mortality now than Italy in 1957, Lybia is wealthier now than the US in the 1940s, average lifespan still increased during the fall of the Roman Empire. We'll see if climate change bucks that trend. It did when it caused other mass exctintions...

[@Tommyleini]

Affordability of housing was far far better in the 80s and 90s than today, with average Joe and Jane being able to buy a property before the age of 30 and big enough for 2 adults and 2 kids. But most things are better now, especially medicine and technology. People don't understand how quickly medicine is progressing. But yeah, housing is a huge issue nowadays.

[@Blox117]

In most cases? LOL Look at how bad wokism is in the west, "diversity" being pushed onto and into everything. Interbreeding with certain melanated groups that have lower IQ. The complete absences of privacy in your daily life and the substantial disparity between rich and poor. Algorithms that control everything but that are closed source. You zoomer kiddies have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[@tachobrenner]

​@@Tommyleini Then again, you had interest rates of what? 8%? And the McCareer was also all the rage, having a badly paid minimum wage job and not finding fulfilling work was common back then.

[@bjones8470]

Growing up as a child in the 70s I remember living in California and having school called off because it was a “smog day”. One of those times my father took us into the mountains and you could see the cloud of pollution just hanging over the city. By the mid 70s all of the fast food restaurants used styrofoam containers for everything and people would order drive thru, eat and just toss the trash out the car window on the drive home. The main streets that ran through the city in Michigan I was living in were just lined with trash everywhere

[@MrChristianDT]

I remember just being a child in the country in Ohio in the 90s. About a mile & a half section of road with all of 8 properties on it & a quarter mile section of woods that crossed a river. The ditches were as deep as I was tall & they were filled twice my height with trash, until someone cleaned it up around the early 2000s. The bridge was covered in graffiti, too.

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

It's interesting to hear about your first-hand experiences growing up in the 70s. The issue of smog and pollution was indeed a significant concern during that time, especially in heavily industrialized areas like California. Smog days and school closures due to air pollution were not uncommon back then. The use of styrofoam containers by fast food restaurants and littering were also prevalent in that era. Styrofoam was commonly used because of its lightweight and insulating properties, but it posed environmental problems due to its non-biodegradable nature. Littering was a widespread problem not only in Michigan but also in various parts of the country. Fortunately, there has been a gradual shift in public awareness and attitudes towards environmental issues since then. Environmental regulations and campaigns have been instrumental in reducing air pollution, waste generation, and encouraging responsible disposal practices. It is important to continue striving for a cleaner and more sustainable future.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

Thinking back decades ago, I do believe there was more litter.

[@StoneUnturned]

@@PoisonelleMisty4311 this dumbo keeps responding with these chatgpt messages, noone cares what you have to say, shoo

[@cmb4tw2800]

Sounds pretty much like today’s São Paulo. 😂

[@captainuseless3806]

I understand that you’re saying that life wasn’t perfect back then but I think there’s a reason people want to go back. My grandfather has been a sheep farmer his whole life and worked small part time jobs, he raised five kids like this and had a house and 100 acres he was able to maintain and renovate, always had new technology and nice vehicles. Within the last 25 years or so that lifestyle has become totally unsustainable to the point he couldn’t even just pay his groceries, gas and bills for himself and my grandmother and they’ve had to sell the farm

[@karenryder6317]

Compared to the 1950s, income inequity is quite horrible today, (and growing worse). Balance this though, against the lives of women, blacks and homosexuals in those days. Another balancing factor is that cancer was almost always a death sentence in those years. Some things were better, but many things were worse.

[@captainuseless3806]

@@karenryder6317 i think even a lot of places. In Africa and Asia were better off then, mental health is picking up a lot of cancers slack these days.

[@happyelephant5384]

@@karenryder6317 so, 15% of black people, 4% of lgbt people having their lives better made other 80% having their life economically much worse? What a great country you guys have built!

[@yukiko_5051]

​@@happyelephant5384See, this is why the world suck today. People like them are the real reason why people today always says the past was better. Yet i bet you will be labeled as racist homophobic etc by them clowns

[@mandakhbaatar]

@@karenryder6317 I am not a woman, I am not black, and I am not a homosexual. I also do not have cancer or even plan to live past 50. What should I care about these things, if to (marginally) improve someone else's life, mine and most men's is made unfathomably lonely and outright unbearable?

[@boredphysicist]

We miss what we lost, no one ever seems to be grateful for what we gained. The declining quality of products, the housing crisis, and the rising inequality. I feel this is what drives 50s nostalgia

[@adamkatolik1633]

Being nostalgic for a time that never actually existed seems to be a common human condition. Our brains are weird in that we only remember the good from the past.

[@mr.x2567]

That’s why I don’t see humans as an intelligent species.

[@electron8262]

I think it's an evolutionary reason, but I'm not a psychologist so I don't know why.

[@yukiko_5051]

If human can also remember tons of bad things from the past, i doubt said human can move on to be better

[@HackersSun]

Except I remember a time when people weren't using social media as heavily and we were better for it National parks are overrun by self absored assholes that litter the parks just for the instagram shot. So my preference is 2000s style where everything with tech was placed in moderation

[@adamkatolik1633]

@@HackersSun well there are good ways to use iPhones as well, for example going on a walk while listening to audiobooks or long form podcasts. I miss the 2000s the least because wouldn’t want to see bush again

[@jolly_39]

About the crime rates of the past: Those graphs often only feature the data of reported crimes rather than the actual crime rates. In the 1950ies most people did not have phones at home and thus could only report a crime by either going to the police station themselves or going to a phone booth. Theft is most common in poor areas with bad infrastructure and for the people living there buying a bus ticket to reach the next police station or paying money to use a phone booth could have often been enough of a hurdle to not inform the police of a crime like theft. With mobile phones it is just easier to report a crime nowadays.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

Oh theft happened for sure. Ive heard multiple stories about how the tail lights on the fins of 59 Cadillacs were big targets for thieves. I also read years ago when I lived in Denver, They did a "This day in Denver..." article that recalled a night in 1956 where 3 15 year olds stole a new Chevy coupe, robbed multiple stores, got into a high speed chase through town and then crashed. The crash killed 1 and the driver and other passenger died in the following shootout with police. All teengers were white btw. There was also the story about how in 1957, some rich womans son committed a terrorist attack in order to get his moms inheritance by setting a timed explosive in his moms luggage. Somehow it lasted to the point she boarded the plane and made it just outside of the Denver metro before exploding. Killing everyone on board.

[@wildfire9280]

@@joshuakhaos4451 That last one is quite elaborate, surprised it isn’t more well known.

[@WestonMeyer-n6x]

Now apply the same logic to 2024…. Today a lot of crime is reported because the person with the phone is trying to use the footage for clicks rather than bringing awareness to it. There are far far far fewer Good Samaritans today. Not to mention the police refusing to go to certain areas or being restricted from actually stopping crime. Back then people had a vested interest in reporting crime or even minor infractions to avoid their neighborhoods (that were in their family for generations) from being swallowed up by crime.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

I find that most people who long for "the good old days" never actually lived in "the good old days".

[@igors1234]

But I've interacted with the people who were born in "the good old days" and with the younger generation. The zoomers are monkeys compared to their ancestors.

[@WestonMeyer-n6x]

And neither did the idiots who try to pretend they were worse despite every single metric proving otherwise.

[@bentonrp]

The good ol' days to me was the early 2000's, when technology was silver and bubbly, but durable, lights were neon blue, and everything still had real buttons. You just had to ignore 9/11, Eminem, Linkin Park, Ludacris, Raunchy RomComs and a handful of some other things.

[@chrisharbour8366]

The word nostalgia originally referred to a mental disease where someone was stuck in the past, especially a past that never existed.

[@LudibriumHistorium-FakeHistory]

That's not true (sorry to ruin your joke)

[@NightAtTheOpera3]

The movie Midnight in Paris nails the concept that "the past was better" can (and will) be felt even by people IN the past. There is no golden era and never has been.

[@karenryder6317]

It must be a very inherent human tendency to see our past years as more innocent because WE were more innocent in those times.

[@srikrishnak196]

Truly said. Romanticizing the past or Underestimating today's problems is not gonna help to change the status quo

[@mr.x2567]

I honestly don’t think any living creature that can feel nostalgia should have their lives matter.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@@karenryder6317 Even that's not really true. People are more moral as they get older. Children bully each other, acting with pointless cruelty that would be unthinkable to 99% of adults. Studies even showing that a man 17 - 20 is twice as likely to hit his girlfriend as one 25 - 28.

[@seabreeze4559]

That's andropause. @@Dennis-nc3vw

[@Kevnadian]

There are roman writings from the first century talking about the "good old days, and this new generation doesn't know what hard work and obedience is, etc"

[@katula14]

I'm sure there were writings also that advertised and praised the contemporary era bs the previous, devious, outdated.

[@sladewilson377]

@@katula14conservatives view history from rose tinted glasses. Humans have always done messed up things. Good and Bad are like day and light. Both always coexist. There is no golden era. Good and bad has always existed in equal amounts and that goes all the way back to the beginning of humanity 300,000 years ago. Boomers and other elders need to accept that and swallow their pride. The reality Life has always sucked even if we go back to the very first humans. Just make the most and enjoy it while it lasts.

[@ThePandaKen]

The Roman empire collapsed relatively soon after those writings. People bring up some Assyrian tablet that said the same stuff and mock, but...last I checked, their empire completely and utterly collapsed long, long ago. Maybe once people stop being optimistic and life makes them pessimistic, it's a sign that a civilization is past its apex. No current world power has had centuries of "it's so over" as a widespread sentiment.

[@skellytonium8160]

@@ThePandaKen By "relatively soon" you mean centuries later. Serious decline started in the late 4th century and lasted for about a 100 years. Up until that time, the Roman empire managed to hold and maintain the vast majority of its territorial gains, though there were some serious upheavals before that, like the crisis of the third century, followed by restorative efforts (Aurelian). First century was peak PAX ROMANA, and anybody who complained about that time period probably romanticized the past too much. Those supposed "spoiled and decadent" youths went on to attain the territorial zenith of the empire under Trajan in the early 2nd century, and by the time """decline""" kicked in, they were dead for centuries. So idk, sounds like typical boomer whinging to me.

[@seoja_belji]

q😊❤q❤​@@ThePandaKen

[@lostonearth7856]

I just want the pre-9/11 fear mongering and paranoia, while also having thee Urban design of the 1930s without the car Brit Monkeym.

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

Same dude

[@EricT01]

I will never forgive Bush for doing 9/11 and ending the 90s!

[@JustAnotherNamelessGuy]

@@EricT01 nah that was his VP

[@rerikm]

I don't think they are taking request at this moment lol

[@RR-gp3qy]

_vice_

[@Jose-se9pu]

This always happened with middle age people, they just get nostalgic, novelty here is freaking teenager being nostalgic, let alone nostalgia about freaking ADS

[@gerarduspoppel2831]

I have to admit. The fashion in the 50s to 70s was beautiful..

[@brooklyn8745]

yup

[@evertonporter7887]

Indeed. As was the music... right up to the 90s😃

[@dojadog4223]

@@evertonporter7887 Yep, every decade had a feel. After 2000 it just stops.

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

Looks are subjective.

[@thesuperintendent4290]

​@@evertonporter7887Movies as well, i think we can all agree that a lot of classics hold up very well.

[@Rossscow]

The ending with the samurai, reminds me why teaching the horrors of war and the history is so important.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Rossscow war is cool cry about it

[@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt]

​​@@longiusaescius2537Than you'll be glad to be on the frontlines if you're ever in one I'm sure

[@longiusaescius2537]

@@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt as long as it's like the emergency and not the canal crisis

[@mandakhbaatar]

a teacher who teaches something he is he himself ignorant about should be put into jail. Take your kids to talk to combat veterans, don't pull stuff out your comfortable professor's ass about how horrible it is

[@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt]

@skemmdarvagr Believe it or not you don't need to talk to a veteran to understand why things like Agent Orange are atrocious

[@apex_llama]

I keep on telling people that "the good old days" is not the best days, and that all they can do is move forward. Thank you for making this video

[@PADARM]

My Grandma remembers the "Good Old Days" when she fled Poland.

[@hggpi]

I must keep moving forward

[@new-lviv]

Weirdly, in recent years I lost feeling of nostalgia. I just don't believe there were things better in general that I can't live through again, or if feeling like that has any meaning. It happened before the invasion, but the w4r emphasized it. Greetings from Ukraine.

[@whiteeye3453]

Because of communism

[@quronmccovery881]

​@@whiteeye3453 How is communism to blame? Dumb shit. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kooledice8831]

I love being born in this generation because I love researching technology and there wasn't enough tech back then to study and crack open

[@dimplesd8931]

I’m a POC and my paternal grandmother went to work as soon as my dad and his siblings went to college. She loved it. My maternal grandmother worked after my grandfather died of a heart attack in his 40’s. My mom worked and I work. I’m grateful for the women who showed me how to work and be in a good marriage with children and still be able to have some economic independence. The past will always look better, while actually being worse than we remember.

[@sirechubs]

That Malawi line hit hard because I literally live there😢😢

[@L.internet8]

I wish the best for you guys.

[@hailgiratinathetruegod7564]

What you go about it. Cry ??? Go in the lake and catch some bass. Cry again because you let the fish burn in the kitchen bevause you were bussy crying.

[@aaadi1890]

​@@hailgiratinathetruegod7564???

[@BasedBelkan8492]

i hope it gets brighter out there, man

[@devindouzstuff_8250]

you sound miserable​@@hailgiratinathetruegod7564

[@Brambrew]

The 50s was still pretty bad for the USA; segregation, lead polluting the atmosphere and asbestos polluting the wallpaper, red scares, etc But overall, the 1950s wasn't _that_ bad... if you forget that there's other countries outside the USA

[@robertdowling4673]

Half the world was living under communist rule and the whole planet was recovering from the second world war. If anything the U.S. was one of the better places to live back than.

[@Sam_Sam2]

Keep in mind 50% of the world economy at that time was just the United States. Every other corner of the world was in rags.

[@kenlandon6130]

Europe was still in tatters.

[@vistagreat9994]

It is true that in the 1950s, the USA was the best place to live in, period.

[@Destroyer120296]

Unless you lived in Sweden(plus i guess Norway,Dennmark and Finnland got away quite lightly despite their involvment in the war@@kenlandon6130

[@TheLurker1647]

"Homes used to be smaller" Yeah, but you could actually buy one. I make as much, adjusted for inflation, as both of my parents combined when they were my age. They had a house, two cars, two kids, and a dog. I rent a room in an apartment with six roommates above a noodle shop. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining; things used to be better, I saw it with my own eyes, I lived it.

[@sicilianotoronto]

Yeah exactly.

[@VincentConti-m5j]

You have cable tv, internet, a phone in your pocket, a microwave, a huge refrigerator, air conditioning. Things that didn't even exist back in the good old days!!!!

[@Alpha.Phenix]

@@VincentConti-m5j Air conditioning? I don't have air conditioning.

[@freemarley639]

They also had a 90% graduated tax rate, most of the new housing construction was federally backed. Down payments were pennies compared to today where you have to compete with big money just for a place to rent. What they had is called socialism today, the middle class isn't supported the way it was in the 50s. You can blame Reagan and Nixon for that, along with shipping half of America's manufacturing jobs to China.

[@MauseDays]

i live in a house with family right now. its 4 of us and the house is TOO BIG. im looking at so much space right now that I can physicaly walk across some maps in VRChat with no controler

[@curtisowen3233]

Old people are nostalgic about being young and healthy and full of dreams no matter how shitty the circumstances were at that time. Rose colored glasses through and through.

[@Fluxwux]

It’s the same thing for Gen Z starting to romanticize 2016 (even if everyone at the time called it “the worst year ever”) because most were in middle school or high school care free and social media wasn’t as toxic and draining

[@JF-wp2rz]

​@@Fluxwux I don't understand it either. I was bullied in school and still miss 2016 for some reason. I don't miss 2015 or 2017 though. Just 2016 for some resson.

[@jeremynewcombe3422]

@@JF-wp2rz It's because 2016 was the internet's best year. Afterwards, memes grew stale - the first meme of 2017 was somebody toucha my spaghett, falling way short from 2016's memes like dat boi and internet trends like vaporwave reshaping the internet. You had all sorts of KZbin drama, commentary channels like h3h3 and idubbz were actually good. Trump generated a lot of content, but it everyone found it funny because he was just a candidate at the time. In 2017 he became president and everything started becoming a lot more political. He had become so ingrained in America's and the internet's consciousness that they couldn't detach once he stopped being an amusing private citizen, and it all became so toxic. The next biggest decline in internet quality wouldn't be until the Tumblr exodus of 2018, where the incessant userbase that had been hitherto well-contained burst out into every other forum, saturating content across the web. Then there was 2020 when everyone's brains melted from COVID. Now we're still experiencing the after effects.

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

*rose TINTED glasses

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

​@@FluxwuxI thought that 2016 was more toxic than today-

[@jeepmega629]

“Couples were more romantic back then” Husbands back then when dinner was a bit cold:

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

And it was fashionable to refer to you wife as a "ball and chain."

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

As much as we moved forward I remember some video I seen form the queer kiwi and I can’t believe the thought of the other sex and gender people have this day or that nofap thing I learn about recently when I came across Noan video on it and dear god what wrong with some people I have metals illness and yet these guy and girl are somehow more insane than me

[@xRetroWAVE]

​​@@USSAnimeNCC-Stop lying, it was fringe minority of men that beat their women

[@stevenp4597]

@@xRetroWAVEan extremely laughable claim

[@xRetroWAVE]

@@stevenp4597 BritMonkey is literally the definition of "cherry-picking". Yes, prostitution, cursing, pervert movies and other bad things existed in 50s. But guess what? It wasn't that common back then.

[@DrBeauHightower]

Great video 😂

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

Nostalgia is a dirty liar that makes the past seem better than it really was.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Truth

[@katula14]

It is not a nostalgia that made the things unbearably ugly .

[@piccolo5346]

Plastics everywhere, loneliness epidemic, houses are unaffordable for the average person. But but it’s “nostalgia” . Sure buddy.

[@Mr.Touhidul]

Yea

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@piccolo5346 Yeah it is. Pretty sure some guy in 1957 had gripes about the modernist movement growing in terms of recent architecture

[@ComradeKits]

In regards to you bringing up modern life being boring, I was reminded of a quote from the first Red Dead Redemption. "Sure, civilization may be dull, but the alternative, Mr. Marston, is hell." - Edgar Ross

[@antifa_communist]

I believe Milton said something similar in Red Dead Redemption 2

[@manoftheocean6988]

​@@antifa_communist "I believe in society, flaws and all! You people venerate savagry, and you will die, savagely, all of you!"

[@abstract5249]

Then let there be Hell.

[@freddyhollingsworth5945]

My Grandma told me back in the 50s crime was bad, rape was covered up and things like kids being molested was a considered a "family" issue to be worked out by the family...

[@Fido-vm9zi]

I believe you are right.

[@Turkish_Productions2007]

That's disgusting.

[@mehomeboymi411]

Your grandma lies. I was there and that is bs.

[@olivercharles2930]

@@mehomeboymi411 Nah, you are the one lying.

[@inquisitorkrieger8171]

I smell BS

[@y0uknowmysteez]

Nostalgia for a time people didn’t even live in, always blows my mind.

[@danielwalsh9748]

The quote from Hagakure "he yearns for a return to conflict" really hit me, reminding me of a different video "This video will change how you see Eren", particularly the point where Eren says "If the danger doesn’t exist… Then I could just cause it myself". I feel that taken these two quotes together, we see an encapsulation of human nature, namely that conflict is inherent in our nature. I think Orwell said it best: "War is Peace" - we will never be content with the realization of anything, but only find happiness (when we look back in retrospect) in the constant struggle.

[@danielwalsh9748]

I just remembered another great animated video from After Skool "How to Have a Life Worth Living - Jordan Peterson" which touches upon the same idea. In it, Peterson recount's Dostoevsky's "Notes from the Underground": (I'm paraphrasing) "If you gave people everything they wanted and all they had to do was laze around eating cake and sit in warm pools, then within a week, they would smash everything up just so they had something interesting to do".

[@thejuiceking2219]

okay, proposed solution we end war by replacing it with violent video games

[@danielwalsh9748]

Ender's Game？ 😅@@thejuiceking2219

[@mateus9741]

This reminds me of the scene in the movie Fight Club where Tyler Durden talks about how their generation is lost because no big war or economic crisis happened while they were alive.

[@danielwalsh9748]

Eyyyy! Like Ender's Game? Proxy war through video games 😆@@thejuiceking2219

[@fabiomenezes5887]

When my grandmother was alive she would constantly tell me about the kitchen gadgets, the songs and books she knew as a girl in the 40's and would never see again. I then started to find her old schoolbooks, some gadgets, tools... I downloaded a playlist with all songs from forgotten albums she "couldn't find in any store". She was exited at first and I was happy I could bring back all that stuff to her. But then she stopped caring.... I realized it wasn't the weird can-opener or songs she was really missing. It was cooking with her mom and dancing with her school friends. She spoke about all these objects but it was her life as a young girl that she missed. It opened my eyes since I've learned to romanticize my grandmas days as better than mine. I'm young and I already get myself romanticizing how much worse things were... going out to rend DVDs and stuff. I think it's unavoidable to be nostalgic.

[@daviddufresne9905]

Music was best in the 1970s. I've heard music before and since and that's an objective fact.

[@nate5292]

@@daviddufresne9905 Actually crazy that we'll see people say shit like this about Katy Pery and Justin Beiber in the 2040s.

[@krombopulos_michael]

Old people just miss being young (that includes people who are 25 and miss being 10), and young people who never actually remembered the time they romanticise are basing their recollections on a handful of small details and very often literal propaganda and advertising from that period, or to some extent popular media from/about that time which will inherently show more interesting things than the mundane day to day experience most people at any time have lived.

[@actualturtle2421]

Even the propaganda back then was better than it is now

[@Blox117]

i think we can all agree that young people today are the most ignorant and mentally ill they have ever been. they dont even know what gender they are anymore

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

@@actualturtle2421 Actually, fair point. Propaganda & Advertizing were much more exciting back then. Now it's all about "Subtle manipulation". Why can't we have ads like "SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T!" Anymore?

[@thunderspark1536]

@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 I mean the counterpoint to that is whenever a big figure messes up we can all see it, the recent US presidents are hilarious for all the wrong reasons

[@mr.x2567]

@@thunderspark1536Rioting and going against society should be promoted more often then.

[@summerdaisyy]

“i was born in the wrong generation!” people say, while typing on their iphone eating bagel bites and watching their favorite show

[@dylanplumley280]

I feel that way, and if I were given a choice to give it all up for a more simple life in a old world city or mid to late 20th century western country. I would take it in a heartbeat. I only use these modern conveniences out of necessity. Hell, if society keeps going in its current direction, I might choose an ascetic lifestyle and live in a monastery somewhere or move to a place where I can live a simple lifestyle in peace.

[@francegamer]

"Here is the secret: there is no love in the past. Only the present. The past is made of static images, distorted memories, demented nostalgia. This, the present - with all its possibilities, innumerable hits and misses - is far superior. It is a *living* organism." - Measurehead, disco elysium

[@longiusaescius2537]

@francegamer furry copium

[@heisen-bones]

@@longiusaescius2537 go back to making sigma edits in your mom's basement

[@francegamer]

@@longiusaescius2537 hmm. Looking at your KZbin comments history you seem to be a very angry fella. Do you want to talk about it? Cuddles maybe? I care! :3

[@longiusaescius2537]

@@francegamer< Changi resident

[@francegamer]

@@longiusaescius2537 Thas okey then :3

[@reversefulfillment9189]

For one thing, my son has a kidney disorder that without medication developed in the 70s he would be sent home to slowly drown in fluids that would collect in his lungs. He's now 18, he still takes heavy medication that made his teenage years more subdued than mine, but I thank modern science for so many things.

[@josem588]

Also at least medicines of today aren’t prejudicial like medicines in the 50s

[@TwinRiver100]

7:39 i came across those outtake videos via Instagram reels a year ago. It was kind of refreshing to see the old Hollywood stars laugh and curse like that. Made them seem way more human and made the scenes funnier.

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Reminds me of a couple of good ol' sayings "Memory lane is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't wanna live there" and "Nostalgia is a helluva drug" even I fall for it when I think about the 90s and early 2000s. people just miss when they were young and ignorant of the world even though things are better now with science, tech, medicine, and acceptance of different people.

[@historysuit9418]

Gustav Holst’s “The Planets”, specifically Jupiter, that you played in the beginning is a perfect representation of 50’s nostalgia. It was written in 1916.

[@nathanseper8738]

Another good example of why nostalgia is mindless. Thanks for sharing that!

[@BigHenFor]

Absolutely. Nostalgia does that to every generation. The 1950s nostalgics would have lionised the 1910s, probably forgetting the Double Barreled horrors of World War One and the Spanish Flu bought to Britain by the very troops coming home from the war. Nostalgia is a symptom of insecurity in the present, and is never accurate.

[@The_Jazziest_Coffee]

@@BigHenFor that line is especially accurate nostalgia after all is a fantasisation of the past, remembering all of the positive aspects in a rose-tinted lens

[@rcjdeanna5282]

I have a million stories. My favorite and most inspiring was from a Marine I worked with in the college cafeteria. He married in haste before shipping out and signed all his pay over to his young wife, whom he scarcely knew. When he returned to San Diego and looked her up she presented him with a bank account with all his combat pay. He told me she was one in a million because most didn't expect them to return alive. He was a dish washer and drank a bit and the marriage didn't last but 20 years later, in 1965, he was so proud of her and loved to tell the story.

[@martinledermann1862]

Whilst overidealizing the past is wrong, we should also not fall for the trap of believing that things just perpetually get better and better ad infinitum...

[@Daniel-gm1gk]

Fr

[@griffins750]

Exactly, certain aspects have gotten better and certain aspects have gotten worse… Cars for example were definitely death traps, but there was also a level of freedom and creativity that is no longer possible due to the technology within vehicles today… For people who enjoy driving modern cars are boring and disconnected compared to cars from 10-15 years ago let alone 30-40-50 years ago…

[@martinledermann1862]

@@griffins750 Yup, things like that too but also more important stuff such as college tuition fees or housing being much more affordable when boomers or Gen X were young; those older generations also didn’t worry about climate change or the threat of AI or mass immigration or low birth rates, so in terms of life for your average Joe, at least here in the West the prospects for young people nowadays seem less optimistic than back then or at least in my humble opinion that seems to be the case…

[@griffins750]

@@martinledermann1862 Yeah I definitely agree!

[@Anubis424242]

My opinion is that life has always been garbage, just for different reasons and for different people. It wouldn't matter what generation I was born into, I would still want to exit life.

[@webx135]

Well I think the big "problem" is that things change so rapidly these days. This is a relatively new phenomenon, as most of the historical change we talk about is in the order of centuries. So you can grow up learning to navigate the world, and then when you arrive there, you can hit it with full confidence and spread what you have learned to the next generation so they can do even better. But these past two centuries especially, you spend your childhood learning to navigate in a world that no longer exists by the time you arrive. And by the time you are teaching the grandkids, it's another world yet again. I think in that regard, most of our nostalgia is centered around just yearning some consistency. The past looks better because it all looks so much easier. And it looks easier because that's what you grew up with. It's like you view your childhood as ground-level, and everything that changes after that is some house of cards waiting to crumble. It feels fake, like the illusion is about to collapse. I think it's just growing pains from how insanely fast things change nowadays compared to how they used to.

[@ahyesname3283]

They miss the culture, not the lifestyle.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Why do you say the culture?

[@trollwaffenunit1garrison784]

you can't have the culture without the lifestyle, people like to conveniently ignore this

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@Waywind420 Why are you envious of Japanese Culture?

[@Waywind420]

@@TiagoGomez-hb9te Because unlike us they actually have a homeland still.

[@jellyrolly]

You would not say that if you saw their crazy work hours and super rigid hierarchy at work. Plus if you are a woman it’s worse because they have a very hush hush attitude towards sexism and sex crimes. This one woman got raped, tried to sue, but faced backlash for ‘stirring up and disturbing peace’.

[@ElizabethUkeh]

As a Nigerian, I'm shocked at that life expectancy. Half of my grandparents died old and the other half are still alive. My great-grandmother is alive at 100😊

[@MaSoNGaMeR115]

the goal of every nigerian on earth is to live in a country built by white people

[@Eladnih]

Life expectancy is heavily influenced by child birth safety. I'd imagine Nigeria isn't up to 1st world hospital code but idk.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Life expectancy is highly influenced by infant and child mortality. If one person lives until 80 and his brother dies as a baby, they are have a life expectancy of 40 between them.

[@nk1560]

This is a big issue when people cite life expectancy as an indicator of societal well-being. In a lot of countries, life expectancy is skewed downwards by high infant mortality. Most people take avg life expectancy to mean that the majority die early, while in reality, the people who make it to adulthood may live comparable lifespans to developed countries.

[@SStupendous]

@@Dennis-nc3vw Exactly. Don't know how people think people magically died at 40 if that's the life expectancy a century ago in some place.

[@vaderbuckeye36]

Modern people in developing countries do not live their lives in the same system as medieval peasants. There has been a great deal of idealization of medieval work structure, but the core difference is that comparatively little time was spent on wage labor and proportionally more upon household work and people were far more connected with the results of their work. Whilst some of this is true for developing countries, the poor farmer is selling their extra produce to a market that is not embedded into their society, it is distributing it to a global market where they have to compete with larger and more efficient producers, making them have to work much harder to approach the living standard of a medieval European peasant.

[@CountOfWoodlands]

good comment

[@gabby222themoon]

Exactly this video is filled with misinformation or incomplete information and it makes me disappointed cuz some of the ideas are valid but missing context

[@armandoventura9043]

The thing is that a citizen currently does not have to pay tribute or go to a forced war with the empire next door Times change and things just work differently.

[@TheNinetySecond]

I gave up on watching the rest of the video after this fact was so arrogantly dismissed _twice_ in the intro. I'm not about to get lectured by someone who thinks historical facts gain validity from sarcastic zingers.

[@morikibbutz2734]

@@gabby222themoon 6:00 was straight facts. Traditionalists are always arguing in bad faith.

[@hifijohn]

Im 64 now and I can say the air back then was filthy,we are so lucky to live now its great how crystal clear the air is even in the big cities, and cars now are not just 100 times safer they are far more reliable,a 4-year-old car now is practically new back in the 70s a four-year-old car was a pile of rust.And people back then had manners, unless you were dealing with lowlifes you didnt hear much swearing.people would get dressed up just to go to the grocery store only little kids wore blue jeans and sneakers. and tattoos were practically unheard of.

[@shaunsteele6926]

I'd take all that filthy air back if we could bring back shame and morality

[@josem588]

Meanwhile here in Mexico pollution wasn’t an issue

[@stathisath]

What was better in the 50s, and even in the 70-80s when I was a kid, is that society was optimistic at large. In the 50s and 60s people were afraid of the bomb, but other than that they were looking forward to living in the future and to experience all the magic it promised. Today, this is no longer true. Even the optimists are pessimistic about the future, because there are dystopian visions in every turn and hardly anything positive. By the way, I am a nihilistic optimist! Cheers! Nice video btw...

[@longiusaescius2537]

@stathisath nihilist aka spineless

[@thenoltzone498]

​@@longiusaescius2537Oh shit, just noticed your comment history on this video, my bad, I thought you were a real person for a second.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@@thenoltzone498 you'd have a take on mena but shut up the instant lehi asked

[@thenoltzone498]

@@longiusaescius2537 What in the fuck are you talking about?

[@dhv2852]

No, YOU were more optimistic because YOU were a child. Society as. Whole has always tried to move forward

[@kcharles7637]

I have a great grandma, who was born in 1924. She told me all the stories. She belives we live now a healthier physical life but extremely unhealty mental life. She thinks it was truly better to live in the 1960s.

[@Shoelessjoe78]

My Grandma is just a couple of years younger than your Great Grandma. She said something very similar but suggested that the "Best" era in America was mid 80s to pre 9/11. Looking back, I'm actually going to agree with her. Pre digital separation but modern enough to have most of what we enjoy today.

[@erikguillen6599]

im 30s, im exactly thinking the same. But also, this is a stuff that happens in every time, from Babilonia to Rome and nowadays. Every time tech change too much way of living, this nostalgia react happens.

[@kcharles7637]

Everybody, you are right. Thank you for the replies. Recently sadly, she passed away. :(

[@gerardmackay8909]

@@Shoelessjoe78 wise grandma. I’d say the latter part of the 90s was the sweet spot (both in Europe and North America) in that we had the convenience of increasingly advanced I.T. and cellphones revolutionised personal communication and of course the internet exploded becoming a global phenomenon ( property was affordable too). People often use 9/11 as a watershed but for me lasting destruction was set in motion by a certain Mark Zuckerberg around 2004/05. Clever guy, genius idea, but (anti) social media and the multiple iterations which followed was the death knell of civil society.

[@chiaralistica]

​@@Shoelessjoe78I'm a GenXer, who grew up in the 70s and 80s. I agree with your grandmother. The 80s were the best. It was a wonderful time to grow up and we had enough advances in science and technology to enjoy the era, but not so much as we have today. Seeing what I have in my 50 years, I would still choose to grow up in the 80s. We really had it good.

[@snakyjake9]

The main distinction here is between nostalgia fighting against genuine progress which makes life today better, compared to "progress" which has gone in a terrible direction, making aspects of the past preferable to the modern age. It doesn't make sense to conflate the two. And of course, even when progress is an overall benefit to society, it isn't always just nostalgia and a longing for simplicity which elicit a negative reaction. In the act of trying out new things, we are not always prepared for the unintended consequences of the resulting change. It takes time and wisdom to course correct. The internet may be a phenomenal advancement for society, but the unprecedented widespread availability of pornography to children is a modern problem directly stemming from progress. With all of that said, it ultimately isn't wrong to look back at the 1950s and say "we did X better back then". It may be wrong to conclude that we need a full on return to the 1950s, with all of its problems that we did manage to solve, but we should be honest enough to recognize where we messed up along the way. Life is full of tradeoffs, and so is "progress". Change may be good for some people or for some things, but bad for other people or other things.

[@coolbutnotverycool1440]

"the internet may be a phenomenal advancement for society" source? all it's done for me is make me a depressed loner virgin.. and all it's done for third world countries is exploit them further. crazy how more "advancement in technology" always just ends up being at the expense of the poor huh

[@anthrolitestudios]

Yep

[@Soitisisit]

It makes perfect sense to conflate the two. The line can only go up and progress without limits is the rallying cry.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Soitisisit I want off your wild ride Mr Bibi

[@Carcajou72]

Well, you just did conflate the two.

[@eroc1970]

I dont know about the 1950s but my dad was the only one who worked in our house growing up, no way you'd be able to do that.

[@mirellymiranda9591]

This still exists today In many homes.

[@nikoc8968]

@@mirellymiranda9591 it really doesnt. if you arent making over $200,000 a year, minimum, then you arent owning a house and a car, affording payments on both, while also being able to support a wife who doesnt work and even a single child...

[@helenamcginty4920]

My dad regularly worked 60 hrs week just to make ends meet. My mum was bored witless by the endless round of cooking, cleaning, sewing, knitying, laundry and talking to children.

[@HackersSun]

​@thesnownigro793214 or 20 years of education? 😂 Some folks need the phd now a days 😜

[@friedfrawg]

Your poor Mother how boring and miserable she must have been having a literal slave giving her his life in labor. Thank God feminism showed men what a bad deal marriage/slavery is for men. Imagine working 60 hours knowing your slave owner is at home with her feet up popping another qualude.

[@whiteeye3453]

Why taking care for children is hell You guy are nuts

[@VickGos-yr2gi]

Actually taking care of kids is fun.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

@thesnownigro7932 In 1950 the life expectancy was 65, the median house size was 1000 square feet, and the average family spent 30% of their income on food. If you want to live like that today, you can easily do so on one income.

[@karlkrump6634]

Every era sucks to some degree. However, traditionalism has always been about focusing on the principles and values that unite groups of people, albeit sometimes placing severe limits. As a history guy, I love reading back through history and looking at all the good stuff that came out of those years of struggle. I have a deep appreciation for people that were able to overcome the odds and be of service to their fellow man. That is the thing though with history, you have to take the good and the bad together. One is meaningless without the other. There is a sort of paradox in the ever ongoing quest for paradise. The Star Trek universe for example did not achieve a Utopia until basically going through WW3 and a long series of other atrocities before resulting in a new (mostly unified) humanity.

[@aktuellyattee8265]

"I could never live in the '50s. How would I live my life without my Avengers funko pops on my desk?"

[@pixelatedxenon9579]

consoom funko pop get excited for next funko pop

[@Soystein]

consume goyslop

[@mindgames7411]

If that’s all you got from this video then you lack critical thinking skills

[@aktuellyattee8265]

@@mindgames7411 wdym? like really. I'm actually asking, it's not all I got from the video

[@new-lviv]

@@mindgames7411 Fun and irony is not for you, Mr. (or Mrs., or Mlrs).

[@Wut78]

My grandmother is 72. She says she is happy we don't deal with much of the crap she did back then. Also the fact that getting anything done back in the "glory days" took forever compared to now.

[@josem588]

Also my Mexican anatomy teacher accepts that the past wasn’t that good and she is like 60 years old

[@thesenate1844]

When we look back at the 50s, we know how history played out, but if you lived back then, for all you knew the entire world could go up in nuclear flames at any moment

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

I mean, that sentiment is still the same today

[@thunderspark1536]

@@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Every generation thinks they are the last. Jesus was literally a doomsday proclaimer.

[@friedfrawg]

I'm glad your generation got to live in a world with 5 cent burgers and 13 cent gallons of gasoline to deal with the threat of nuclear Armageddon. Younger generations dealing with the same threat have to party with stagnate wages and 20 dollar burgers.

[@friedfrawg]

Must have been hard to start businesses back then. With only half the government of today and barely any environmental laws.

[@Iamnottheplatypus]

I remember feeling bad for those kids who had to do these drills in order to not get nuked.

[@falsificationism]

I half agree with this, I think. Face-to-face communication has its merits. Old urbanism allowed for 3rd places, encouraging community. Those things were real, but we suburbanized and isolated our families from our communities, eroding trust. I think that's real and things are much, much worse. I think there's a way we can take what worked from the past and keep our iPhones.

[@honkhonk8009]

Thats the big reason. Also the fact that jobs were just more real. Now its hard to say the same.

[@falsificationism]

agreed @@honkhonk8009

[@railroadforest30]

That’s true

[@Stockbrot_]

I'm surprised BritMonkey didn't mention this at all in this video, although he talked about it in other videos. Either his opinions aren't coherent or he has a very short memory. I mean, obviously people today have more material wealth but that's not the point.

[@falsificationism]

@@Stockbrot_ you know, I think that’s fair. I’ve heard him talk about these things too, which is why some of the inferences I detected in this one didn’t feel like they added up. Often happens when we’re trying to integrate new ideas I’m sure, so I give it a pass. Just had to give a little pushback!

[@inxendere]

You're the one that made a 40 minute video about how the housing crisis is the most important problem in modern society. And you totally gloss over the fact that in the 50s you could buy a decent home on the salary of 1 average husband, and instead make a point about discarded razors. You make excellent points with everything else you said, but that housing thing is the most important and easily outweighs all other negativities, and it's the cheap housing on 1 salary that most people talk about when they refer back to the good old days.

[@minty9984]

Man's got a point yo

[@farhanbackup9409]

Perhaps for every homeowner in the 50s, there are 100 homeless people we don't know about because they die of dysentry or something. Survivor bias.

[@Batmangutten]

Houses in the 50s were also smaller and filled with hazards. Inflation adjustments also include the increased cost of housing, and the average person is still better able to afford a house today.

[@Pfle2005]

(Unless you were a woman)

[@longiusaescius2537]

Exactly

[@CrittingOut]

Salaries in the 50s were significantly higher when you account for inflation. There is literally nothing that refutes this.

[@Hummerbird99]

Yup, some things were better an some things were worse.

[@ouroborosnagyok9306]

this liberal asshole wants you to love your corporate overlords, dont question them, because your toilet flushes faster and your fridge has a stainless steel lining

[@lastlight7423]

That's because the U.S used the gold standard until the 1970s which was the reason why the dollar is much stronger.

[@ouroborosnagyok9306]

@ I thought US went off gold standard during FDR??

[@lastlight7423]

@@ouroborosnagyok9306 You're right, my bad, it was a similar system to the gold standard called gold exchange standard under the Bretton Woods Agreements until 1970s.

[@CHRB-nn6qp]

I'm pretty sure that people seemed happier in the past because they were a lot more ignorant of the world around them. Mainly just due to the fact that they didn't have the easy access to information that we do today.

[@jordanwhite352]

That and it was also easier to force people into societal systems because as you said there's no other data. So you can't really contrast what you're doing with everyone else's. It's just sort of like oh men just beat their wives. It's always been like this. What are you talking about?? We always bound women's feet. What do you mean that this is bad and unusual? Oh you have to be successful as a male salesman and if you don't it's honorable to just off yourself? Shit like that. Basically the old conundrum of my parents did it and I idolize my parents so I have to as well.

[@javihill]

⁠​⁠@thesnownigro7932 omgg when you have a community to rely on but 13 years less of life expectancy, 10% higher poverty rate and an extra of 1000 hours of work every year😍😍😍😍😍😍 those were the dayss 💯💯💯✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏😍😍

[@semurobo]

​@thesnownigro7932this is only the case for as long as the community actually supported them. There were so many people that were completely left out in their communities and people would not want anything to do with them. Minorities were often treated as sub -humans

[@NoRockinMansLand]

​@thesnownigro7932 you still find that in Africa and Asia nerd

[@friedfrawg]

That probably plays a role, but I have suspicions people were happier back then because Qualudes and Black Beauty speed was legal.

[@somerandomguy___]

My biggest critique is that you almost only see these things from a materialistic world view, like somehow economic growth is the only thing that has brought prosparity into the world, and is the only thing that can. You bring up the example of pollution on a city level, but that removed because people protested and went on strike or the government enacting regulations more often than not, rather than some economist saying that pollution is bad for business and then boom, pollution gone. What you entirely missed with the statistics of east Germany is that people don't miss "the aesthetics" but the things stated in the statistics like gender equality and probobly other things too. I myself am from Bulgaria, and I won't make any excuse that the past of my country was better during communist times, but you can't exclude the few things that actually *were* better in the past just because some people are speaking purely from nostalgia.

[@someguy4405]

AND THE ECONOMIC GROWTH ISNT EVEN REAL BECAUSE IN THE UKS CASE ITS ENTIRELY PREDICATED ON POPULATION INCREASE FROM IMMIGRATION.

[@actualturtle2421]

they only know consoooomerism and anything they can't buy is worthless

[@coolbutnotverycool1440]

he's a nothing is wrong with the world, our system is the best kind of liberal. he does not know ANYTHING

[@JmKrokY]

Bulgaria ☠️

[@JmKrokY]

People from UK and US tend to be very materialistic compared to the rest of the world only looking at life through the lens of economic growth. Personally, the socialist times weren't that bad as people make it out to be, like free housing and less unemployment. It all has pros and cons.

[@Guy-cb1oh]

While I do generally agree with Mantra "The past was the worst", that we generally have it better today, and that alot of people tend to cherry-pick the good parts of the past to make it look better. I do still think there are things we can learn from the past and even a few things that were even better than today..

[@EternalFlameOfGod]

What do you mean cherry pick the good parts, I hope if you ever debate someone who prefers the good ol' days you don't expect them to say "oh I'd like some of that slavery/Jim crow again" cause that's ridiculous. Of course when ppl say they prefer the good ol' days it's because they prefer the good stuff about it like simpler livin, better community relations, more active & social children, deeper faith, more freedom & liberty less restraint & regulations etc. it's common sense ppl are only gonna want the good.

[@giorgialadashvili4771]

Cheaper real estate is not a minor "cherry-picked" part though, but rather a huge factor in anyone's life.

[@Heyurgirlistotallyrandom]

1:30 BritMonkey, u are such a great content creator and editor! The way you increased the volume of the music, just for it to be changed with your voice basicslly telling people to wake up to reality, is such a great editing tactic!

[@Kamila-ey5vi]

Bro, I'm a lesbian woman in STEM, there is absolutely no other time in the past this would be possible, if I lived in the 50s I'd be lobotomized

[@Vibrantly_Monochromatic]

For women, things are really way better now

[@NeyamStar]

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[@lemsavage9473]

I'm glad people like you are out there, if not to live a better life but to piss off those who hate you are

[@Kamila-ey5vi]

@@lemsavage9473 thank you, and I will continue to do that as long as I live

[@Duncan_McGillicutty]

and this is supposed to convince me the past was bad????

[@sterlinsilver]

I think the thing with the 50s is while they certainly werent better, they LOOKED better. Designwise i feel it was a highpoint in humanity. The cars, the signs, the buildings, the radios. So much effort was focused on the design (because, really there wasnt much else to focus on!)

[@MsSarahJosephine]

*stares over at concrete smothering brutalist architecture* ........right. *I know there's a whole bunch of good philosophy and social points to be made about Brutalism especially in regards to postwar housing but it still doesn't change the fact that to me it's the fugliest style to come out of the 20th century

[@sterlinsilver]

@@MsSarahJosephine brutalism was more a product of the 60s and 70s and wasn't focused on the common man. I'm thinking more of the googie architecture. Look up stuff designed by armet and Davis, that's the style I'm thinking of.

[@WestonMeyer-n6x]

They were definitely better

[@robtherobber6967]

People weren’t happier back then, they just smiled for the camera.

[@josem588]

They also were surprised because in a video called “high school class of 1999” the students seemed surprised because being filmed wasn’t common back then.

[@vlada4ever2]

While modern life is in many aspects better, a few things from the "statistics" are misleading: 1) Even though houses were much more modest, they were way cheaper and more affordable than today - and living with a family in a modest house is still better than with 5 roomates in an apartment in your 30s 2) Life expectancy was "mathematically" the same as in African countries today, but that is because of high child mortality. Except for wars and disease periods, people who survived childhood diseases in the past were living well into their 70s, 80s and beyond. 3) Inflation adjusted cost of living doesn't paint he full picture - because although material things and international travel have become way cheaper, the essentials to a stable life have become much more unaffordable (childcare, healthcare, higher education, housing have all outpaced inflation considerably) 4) Average hours per worker have decreased as well as the number of people working in "dirty unhealthy environments", but it was mostly ONLY MEN working, which is also the reason why people were feeling less stressed out and having a better work-life balance (one partner was taking care of domestic work and children, while the other could focus on work - something which has agian become unaffordable today)

[@chiaralistica]

While that's true, my great grandfather contracted TB at work and brought it home to my lovely great grandmother. He passed after a few years and she passed a year later. This was a few months before my grandfather turned 18. So there he was, getting his HS diploma and no parents cheering him on. He did have a favourite aunt and eventually followed her to the east coast where he met my grandmother. I see many who lived to their 90s and many babies born to 40 something mothers, but you had to make it past all these diseases that we have since eradicated.

[@wawashake2763]

I know I'm late to replying but yes, as chiarac mentioned, I thought of TB as well... so many other diseases too. There's a very good book about it called Invincible Microbe. People of all ages could suffer and die due to TB, of course especially elders and children. But even people in their 30s. 20s. Teens. It still exists today as well, just not quite as widespread, at least in the United States - though the version today is much harder to be cured due to some strains gaining resistance against vaccines. But even other diseases could kill people back then, especially if you lived in poor towns or very cramped areas such as cities. Obviously I won't name literally every one, but both my parents had chickenpox which may evolve into shingles later (not really that life threatening I suppose but still painful). Think of HIV, AIDS, all of this stuff... I know not all of this happened only in the 50s (TB has existed for millions of years), but you know what I mean. Even getting a cut back then could get infected and kill you... obviously that's improved now, but still. Apologies for the long comment. I can't make short ones lol. Otherwise I agree with you.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

I'm just going to address #2 because that's a common myth. First of all, people forget how much better Africa has gotten in the last 20 years, especially since the AIDS crisis has abated. Africa's low life expectancy was also in part driven by childhood mortality, which is lower now in most places than it was in mid 20th century Europe. But more importantly the myth that low life expectancy was caused entirely by childhood mortality just isn't true. Death rates were certainly higher for children, but they were higher for ALL age groups. While there was no cure for childhood disease like measles, adulthood diseases like cancer, heart attacks, strokes and diabetes just didn't have real treatments. Unless you had cancer that was on something which could be removed like a tumor in your mouth or in your left lung but not the right you were just 100% going to die. Combination chemotherapy didn't really have a breakthrough until the mid 1960s, and treatment wasn't widely available until years after. It's a similar case for heart disease, if you had a heart attack in your 40s you were much more likely to die. You definitely did have a life expectancy comparable to Africa. It's just difficult to imagine yourself as being like Africa.

[@massmurdertron51]

​@@XandateOfHeavenohh wow that's cool

[@joeblow9657]

Regarding point 1, I feel like the author of this video lives with his parents or something. Even 20 years ago you could sort of afford a decent enough home which is a heck of a lot better than being stuck forever renting... just like people before the 1950s in the really bad old days were. Also, great point for no. 4!! I'd add, part of why people worked more on average was that there were more full time jobs and full employment. A huge issue now is that the technological and productivity advances computers have brought us have been used to pay people less and give them less hours to work. There are a lot of people in part time jobs who would like to be able to work full time but can't find work.