The Nat-4 Dragons B12 God you're not using... (Summoners War)

Struggling with DB12 safety & reliability? Don't have the resources for a water homunculus? It's Lapis time!

[@shakmaster912]

Me: *watching video* Bagel: showing all the units with Violent. Me: I need to get violent to farm violent..... Still me: ...back to db10

[@jallenvisconti]

I got it to work the first time, but when I did repeat battles, damn Loren needs to reevaluate her life choices.

[@paulcastro9958]

LOL!!!

[@mocchasin432]

“Nothing is 100% win rate” Triple Icaru and Verde: “Hold my empty fifth slot”

[@nicofo3475]

If they never defense break, you die.

[@mocchasin432]

Nico Fo is it not infinite turns though thanks to turn cycling with Verde?

[@tmdkns8986]

@@mocchasin432 No is not, 14 turns before dragon moves, that explains why you need Better than BJ5 runes on verde

[@mocchasin432]

TMD KNS guess mine will need work. Currently building the team. Verde is +1800 attack, 220 CD and 100 CR

[@mr.joesterr5359]

I run Cadiz in my 5th slot and it kicks ass

[@Luzarioth]

"you're not using.." jokes ony you, my Lapis is one of my most used Monsters ^^

[@lemhy7096]

Raoq too, loren too,.....

[@zz_raoq]

Jokes on you my lapis is 5 star xD

[@lemhy7096]

@@zz_raoq U should 6* her, she is a good farmer faimon

[@nightraider5100]

@@zz_raoq jokes on you my lapis is 6 starred and maxed out

[@TheOne-ez9lr]

I use Linda

[@EcksDeeee]

Accuracy Benchmarks 0% - Rift beasts 15% - Raids 24% - SF10/PC10 34% - Dimensional Hole 45% - GB10/NB10/TOA/TOAH 54% - GB12/NB12 55% - DB10 65% - DB12 85% - GB10+ for mid boss (used on def breaker in speed teams) 85% - PVP Bomber/Debuffer 100% is a waste by the way.

[@x7ameedo700]

This is gold info

[@totallyawesomeusername9307]

Well pvp 100% isn’t a waste but yeah most people don’t have a lot of monsters on 100% res

[@Jim-fq3yq]

@@totallyawesomeusername9307 it is, every unit in the game has a 15% chance to resist a debuff no matter what, so 85 is the maximum accuracy you can have on a unit, anything above that is just a waste.

[@blackkyurem720]

Dont agree with the 1st one as I've had mons miss important debuffs on rift beasts which hampered my scores multiple times and that's with 20-30% acc. They are decent now though.

[@XxSirMeowALotxX]

I think on rift beasts it also was 15%, but yeah everything else is perfect (even included the gb12 midboss lolz) But if this dude named Shizophrenic Gamer goes on with giving such blatantly wrong info about his team like no skill ups needed or 100% acc needed im going to unsub him... aswell as abigail does the job of lapis A LOT better since she strips and lapis doesnt

[@rendezvousonmemorylane]

Disclaimer: Your Spectra MUST be skilled up for this team.

[@Whalev1]

Rendezvous On Memory Lane like the 2a spectra needs to be skilled up? Or just spectra in general

[@Psyduc18352]

@@Whalev1 i devilmon'd my 2a spectra. he's way better skilled up.

[@zaleww5824]

@@Whalev1 has skll cooldown on s2 and rate up on s3 so yes he definitly needs to max s2 and s3

[@Whalev1]

Zaleww 2a skilled up or normal

[@sparkplug8763]

@@Whalev1 2a obviously

[@pixelmaster9964]

“Nothing is 100% win rate” *My GB1 team*

[@kaczuszka-dt]

chow lumirecia bastet praha mihyang. most op db1 team

[@jamesyong7826]

JB: dont need insane runes. ALso JB: shows +183 speed loren with +18kHP

[@domr3p578]

JB: ". . . she's kinda on the faster side" LOL

[@Lucario9d]

as a mid-game player, this was something that was very frustrating for me. I've found that most of these large sw content creators are actually terrible at making teams for new players. They never consider rune quality, skill ups, towers, etc. They use their high quality runes and only focus on making a team purely for the mechanics of a monster, only when it is fully skilled up, has specific stats, etc. It is baffling, really.

[@kingkhai9752]

I watch my loren not use 2nd skill 4 times in a row, ai is beyond in sw

[@ml7137]

eirgar is also stupid

[@dragonsky8396]

@@ml7137 Yes eirgar was so bad in iron fortress just max skilled him now he works but he still needs 90-100 accuracy which is also stupid

[@41NewVAWE]

bruh there funnier stuff like fran ignoring s3 for 4 turns , Lushen ignoring s3 for 4turns^^

[@mtndewprettygud6416]

@@ml7137 They did buff him an update or two ago in case u didnt know or does he still derp? lol

[@ml7137]

@@mtndewprettygud6416 still derp. Yes, less than before, but he still derp.

[@DbaldetToShuffle]

>"Verdehile just has to move everyone else on the team" >moves before Lapis.

[@koolbeans344]

“Loren will always defense break” My Loren:Are u challenging me?

[@infern0soracle330]

"i know some of you fed her" me: *cowers in shame*

[@infernalord1526]

(Commenting on the description) If you're at the point in the game where you can't make a water homunculus, you're also probably not ready for db12 anyway. And just to clarify, it doesn't work the same the other way, just because you have a water homunculus doesn't mean you are ready for db12.

[@solomonlarsen5181]

The only problem with that team is that my Loren refuses to strip when the boss gets immunity, legit everytime she violate procs gets 5 turns and not once does she decide to strip

[@omgopet]

PSA: You should not have 100% acc on your monsters, 85% is the cap. For dragons, 65% is the cap and anything over that is a waste. Skill 3 acc artifact for spectra seriously decreases the rune requirement. If you can, put Spectra on violent, it will improve your run consistency. Swift is pointless on her (in dragons, not in general) because she has to be slower than Loren and she has insane base speed. Having Swift with slot 2 attack is fine, but not ideal because her damage comes from crit dmg, not attack. The more she spams skill 2, the faster your run, and the more she spams skill 3, the safer it is. If you can't do Violent, use some combination of Blade and Focus runes to get 100% cr and 65% acc, use a HP slot 6 and try to get as much crit dmg from subs.

[@mello9686]

What speed would you reccomend

[@calours]

very good comment thank you very much

[@sparkplug8763]

@@mello9686 around +100 from runes I'd say

[@mello9686]

This is the best advice I've heard seen in a long time I can clear db11 now but my rune quality isnt quite there and I need to skill up 2a spectra

[@joejoesoft]

Correction: Spectra's Skill 2 is 350% of the ATK stat and 18% of the enemy's HP. CD is more effective than ATK, but it's still used. Her Skill 1 is speed and ATK based, but that's not as important. Spectra is great to use Swift runes with DMG substats and no speed. These would be trash runes for most other units, but Spectra only needs +74 speed to be 200 total speed before towers and speed lead. 42 speed from Slot 2 and 25 from Swift set is already +67. Since so many mons require Vio runes (especially for the new content), using "trash" swift for Spectra would be beneficial for a good portion of the playerbase.

[@Buddy330]

I've been saying that Lapis underrated. I've been using Abigail though for the extra strip and atb reduction.

[@furor9396]

Me too

[@noname1752]

You won’t need extra strip when you run Lapis... cause she has aoe atkbar reduction which means the immunity tower won’t move

[@yophono5929]

@@noname1752 abigail also has aoe atb reduction genius

[@noname1752]

Yophono oh really? Didn’t know that 😅

[@furor9396]

No Name won’t movie mmmmm not sure about that ... what are the stats of your lapis

[@LeagleDed]

Cant thank you enough bagey. Ive been 6 staring all monster that i could to auto db12 and none succeed. When I watch this video I was like ' argh another 6 star wasted'. But turn out 2.30 minutes run with no fail. I know 2.30 is not that much but man, seeing 10/10 on auto db12 makes me feel like progressing. I tweak your team a little bit. Verde (L), Loren, Water Homun ( All lower skills), lapis, 2a Spectra with no skill up.

[@sexyhinatahotty]

"No 100% team"... Icaru: I am a joke to you?

[@patricksoares9670]

I have been using the light Ifrit as tank + precision for dragon b12. I love him. He's stealing buffs non-stop. I use Loren, light Ifrit, Kro, Fran, Sigmarus and verdehile as leader. I usually get 9 out of 10 times on dragon b12.

[@moritz3963]

U can Use 6units in your db12? That's unfair

[@mhh0111]

Tyrone is another good option. I run Verde, Loren, Tyrone, Kro, Taor - 2:00 avg runs and 99% win rate (I've only failed once or twice since autofarming came out) My Taor is also 65% acc, so that helps

[@lukindex]

I must say, thank you a lot man!!!!!!! LIKE A LOOOOOOOOOOTTT

[@99Hatman]

for once i can proudly say: i have zero problems with the stability of my db12 runs! on an unrelated note, i also have yet to make it to db12 :P

[@zhuiguangliu5860]

A good F2P replacement (makes run faster) for Loren is light homunculus. Purification (strip), Accelerate (heal + atb boost), and Rock On (team up + atk buff) build.

[@ryangilbert336]

Love how this is free to play friendly as well!

[@onelime3964]

Thanks so much for this bagel!, I have now found my stable and quite fast team just because of this! Loving it so far!

[@Kouriame]

I like using Elsharion. I haven’t skilled mine up at all, but he already steals the immunity for my whole team more often than my Bella or Loren actually strips it off. And they are either mostly or fully skilled up. His passive enables him to steal beneficial effects with any of his abilities, and that makes his strip/steal more effective more often.

[@jontanyongqian8838]

can you share your line up? I have been using chilling, but failed nonetheless.

[@RikuGaranku]

Been using Lapis for years now xD ain’t no secret to me she’s been useful. Especially after that balance patch a few years ago that made her OP

[@chriro0960]

I dont have problems with DB12, my problems are with DB11.....

[@elielintrepide2760]

same lmao

[@nireas570]

Also Bagel, give a shot to Icaru instead of Raoq. He pulls 3 allies, which means he'll always pull at least Lapis or Loren! Love your vids!!

[@Davichiz]

when he says that spectra should be faster, he means spectra can be as fast as needed to still take turn 2 after loren. He'll sometimes reach boss and use skill 2 first so if loren doesn't go first to def break you're wasting a huge amount of damage. I was failing because of this before frr, teams a lot better now : Verde, Khali, Spectra, raoq and loren.

[@asobinasan9516]

Oh my god, thanks for this, immediately trying my lapis and it works.. Mine replaced raoq with ken.

[@naturalexpressions8148]

Great video, very helpul, wish we had you doing vids for heir of light, we literally have nobody doing videos on late game stratagies. Its an open market for gameplay help.

[@varek4003]

You can also use Triton (Water Sylph) with high acc. and pref on violent as substitute for Lapis. With Spectra he always hits with 2cnd skill which does 2x -75% atb reduction - works also good, mine is even still 5 star😅

[@penguinswillfly3]

Me: BaGel nO mOrE fIrE M. BiSoN Bagel: 😈

[@Computrix1000]

8:03 JewBagel: Spectra is not that fast. Me: +80 spd I guess is good on my Spectra.

[@GamerCM101]

Dunno if you'll see this comment, might just get burried, but have you considered the water serpent, Shailoq, for DB12 in place of an atk bar decrease? She has skill one 75% strip, skill two triple-hit max hp single-target atk bar decrease, and skill three triple-hit aoe atk bar decrease based on max hp. I feel like on a violent/focus set paired with Raoq or something she could be an absolute atk bar decrease and strip monster. Just some food for thought though.

[@FourEnderBros]

If serpents get a 2a I can see the water serpent being crazy good

[@twixdog3316]

I contacted the devs about the wording on her/his skills once, the damage is based on your max hp, not enemy max hp

[@Vort_tm]

Dayum, just looked at Shailoq and they also get 15spd awakening, so 115 Spd Base... save for the DefBreak that Loren brings, Shailoq is looking really smexy.

[@Kailez]

he made a shailoq vid for db10 a while ago. so im sure shailoq would be great in db12

[@paulgoogol2652]

Shailoq is easily usable. I use the old Si**arus Spectra Belladeon Megan Veromos as in the good old days and it works fine. But it is as slow as it used to be. around 2:00.

[@curtevans1479]

Awesome idea! Keep testing building units. This team work like a charm👍✌

[@Blubsiblapi]

Just use Belladeon if your loren is stupid like mine. This little dawg has a rly smart AI. Only uses 2nd skill if the dragon has immunity and in a wave Bella attacks different monsters to pushback the attackbar and spread the attackbreak.

[@FroZtarn]

Just built this and it's not 100% spd tuned but seems to work anyways, thx man!

[@RIFADOR001]

Verde, SA Bella, Aegir, Chilling, SA Spectra is my team. It's very consistent.

[@meuts]

nice, i was looking for sb12 team, since i juz started again, and this actually made it work for me. thx alot

[@Infidi]

I fed my Lapis, then com2us gave me her again 4 times from toa legendaries

[@TeixeirajFivem]

Same here, god bless them, i kept them all and now mine is max skilled lol cool

[@eduardocorral6605]

Thanks for the tip to have verde as last to move. Makes my team more consistent. :)

[@robertallbritton9096]

i really dont wanna farm db10 lol. Vio is pretty important in this team because a large part of the conistency is the fact that skills are always up. Verd gives more turns, Raoq lowers cooldowns with team up, lapis gets turns with s3 gets turns

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

100% accuracy is a waste. You only need 65% since the dragon has 80 res

[@mogo3269]

David Cooper Zairos has 100 resistance. In my opinion, 85 accuracy is better for safe runs.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

@@mogo3269 wrong! Zaiross has 79 and his crystals have 80. These stats have been known since release. The only b12 monster with 100 res is gb12 mid boss that already had 100 in b10.

[@mogo3269]

David Cooper really? I didn’t know that. thank you

[@MonkeyDKizu]

bro if u play this game long enuff you'll realise that no matter how much acc u have u still get cucked XD

[@xHe11houndx]

I use Verd, Spectra 2A, Loren, Water Homu, Tyron. Very safe but fairly slow, however my runes aren't great so i'd say this is a very good safe team.

[@TheSenpai14]

Personally Bagel I use Verd Abigail ( 3rd skill maxed ) water humunculus spectra and Tatu 2a IT IS SO COOL TO SEE THE DRAGON'S LIfE GO HALF WAY DOWN with incinirate aha. It fails maybe one time over soooo many runs and thats it and my towers are not maxed yet I also Use seanb team with Verd Abigail Ken Spectra and Loren. Tatu 2a is really cool tho im surprised nobody makes a video about her. she is OP is toah as well Tatu 2a on violent spectra on violent abigail on violen as well verd on rage humunculus on violent

[@Elbon-the-Lolinator]

Actually, my Punisher's Crypt team is at 100% success rate. Even the first try it worked. And I run it a lot. Not even a single unit dies (and even if they do, Betta will revive). Verd lead, Betta, Rica, Roaq, Colleen. Takes about 2 minutes, though.

[@kenman7917]

I built Lapis for this right after building a 2nd Raoq and realizing two 2A Raoqs are totally pointless. But with Lapis in the mix it's a lil less pointless

[@infern0soracle330]

jokes on u, 2 2a raoqs are insane almost anywhere 😂

[@kenman7917]

InfeRn0's Oracle nope, need 3 or 1

[@codykinster7635]

I’ve been using Verde/Spectra/Loren/Taor/Poseidon with good success. About 95% with 2 min average.

[@Socrates21stCentury]

Pretty cool, I just leave Lapis on DESP / REV, to manage the trash waves, and it works fine. [SPD/HP/ACC]

[@unseentyrant9908]

How is your L/D account doing in the B12's?

[@suivzmoi]

i do ATK/CD/ATK on my spectra because with verde there is no shortage of turns for him so for my case I don't need him to go first/second. also when Raoq pulls him, his S1 does a ton more damage this way. i slapped a S2 CD artifact on him so he S2 the boss for >50k. spectra is worth devilmon. I always take him for TOA/H 100, even before 2A.

[@unknownpasserby7405]

I made a new account and I use Verde-Lapis-Spectra-Any damage hitter-Lulu. The first 3 is for speed. One attacker. One healer. And I have crappy 5* Rune, their skilled are not maxed except for the 2a.

[@Simimenco]

"I need fire homunculus for PC10".... well.... get a Tatu and blow that mfk dragon :v

[@jmtoralba]

I'm hesitating since lapis is my farmer and idk what's gonna happen if i rerune her to accuracy.

[@sindisol]

I mean her third skill is pretty reliable for healing since its a 3 turn cooldown

[@HelloHiHowareyou1]

very nice farmable team bagel. im using verde elsharion kro loren and spectra rn avg 2min and its 99% safe without op runes

[@shinyeeveebweebwee5949]

...The Griffins... THE GRIFFINS... ThE GrIfFiNs!

[@Syiclol]

65% Acc is enough for DB12, everything above it would be wasted stats

[@ureehueurv]

does that mean it will work all the time or anything above it won't make a difference

[@Syiclol]

@@ureehueurv anything above does not make a difference

[@blhtml]

I never had problem with dragon B12: Verdehile Khmun Xion Fei Rica But Giant B12 been a pain: Chandra Belladeon Veromos Fran Elsharion Necropolis I can only do B11 reliable

[@liamboylan6170]

isnt 100% accuracy a waste given the cap of 85%?

[@jamiestocks4064]

JewBagel is like, “I’ll never take off my beanie. This is the way...”

[@lavalord678]

I don’t even have my lapis anymore

[@nireas570]

I have been running dragon using Verde, Loren, Lapis, Vero and my hidden MVP, Lulu!

[@joshschrock6265]

Sounded like a Buck Rogers throwback

[@brenol2177]

I like the good intention to make new teams for everyone, but I hate a lot of those guides. They put in the title that is an easy or nearly easy team to make, but when it comes the time to show the runes, the runes are all very good and very hard to get. If you can rune a monster and make it very strong in 4~5 attributes or extremely fast, probably you already have a 30s drag b12 team.

[@Vort_tm]

Bagel! My entire SW life I've been told that the Accuracy Cap was 85%. Even if they had 100% Res, the game was hard coded to have a 15% chance to Resist. No. Matter. What. And because of that, the Accuracy Cap was 100-15=85%. Yet here I am watching you lamenting being at 99% instead of 100%. Have I been misinformed my entire SW Life?

[@delarey95]

No, bagel for some reason either refuses to believe that 85 is the cap, or has never been corrected. The cap *is* 85.

[@lorenztech2832]

8:06 I recognize that rune from an old video..... not sure if good memory or just watch too much bagel

[@zerovermilion8715]

Someone: Is there an ignore defense effect that scales with HP? Me: Continuous Damage. Period.

[@red_dll]

Dots don't scale with hp.

[@jordankerr1]

Red dlL “dOts DoNt ScAlE” f3 noob

[@red_dll]

@Dragons Dens I had a misconception on that one. 5% were a fixed number to me because it is always ecxactly 5%. But of course the total damage depends on the hp and it scales.

[@red_dll]

@@jordankerr1 Thank you for your "input". Don't be a human noob the next time and just correct the mistake or shut up.

[@jordankerr1]

Red dlL sorry tough guy. Won’t happen again

[@xKakashi619]

I've been trying to find a 100% safe db12 team. Fixed: Verde (L), Tyron, 2A Spectra Changes: Chilling, Loren, 2A Bella, Lapis And I find the highest success rate (no fails in 5 refills in fact) is with 2A Bella & Lapis. Only Verde is on violent, the rest on swift. My lapis is even on the default vampire set, I just swapped out the revenge set with an accuracy set. Hopefully this team can be consistent.

[@BeyondXeon95]

Saw this video, excited, tried it out. Failed instantly xD

[@Francorocco]

time to build my lapis after 3 years on storage sitting at 5 stars

[@omarwalwan]

Dude, I've been trying out so many teams, while i do like it, im just tired of 6* units, runing them and skilling them and then finding out theyre not as useful as i want lol Now im using abigail for extra strip and aoe despair stuns for trash waves, its better but i need to find a way to get rid of loren and bring another more reliable stripper in, thinking bella, but need to make 2a spectra first

[@fahra6552]

hahaha same

[@tomoe4776]

Bella has smart AI, you should run her

[@beadedhobbitreacts]

Now what are the tunes for best Nat 4s that would be a super helpful video🎉

[@ironman-uc7ek]

Last time I was this early I still played the game.

[@adamv6753]

why do you get 100% acc if there is always a 15% chance resist?

[@prosperojimenez9612]

Because if you have 85% acc that 15% chance will make you have 70%acc, but if you have 100% acc you will have the 85% ideal

[@adamv6753]

Prospero Jimenez i thought it was an OR. Meaning a resistance check is done to determine resistance value, if that value is less than 15% it is increased to 15%

[@speznaslordtachanka1064]

@@prosperojimenez9612 bruh thats not how it works

[@nagisa3523]

To think in 2022 we get everything + free materials to 6* lapis now

[@LemingsGalore]

DAT RAOK AT THE START THO O.O

[@othavio1000]

(writing while i watch the run) i must be the most unlucky man in SW, because my spectra refuses to use his 3° skill in mid boss, he is on vio and literaly just atacked Zairos 3 times in a row with 1° skill, and when Verde gave him the turn guess what? HE USED 2° SKILL THEN 1°... result : cristals attacked and killed my Raoq (won the run cause Lapis went crazy)

[@ixeh]

target 1 of the crystals first in midboss, will make mid stage much much safer.

[@krismartinez4679]

Finally a video I can relate too I suck so much lol I don’t know good team comps

[@mrslurpdurp6020]

Is bagel gonna upload another episode of Giana project...

[@goodcow2860]

Important question tho, I have multiple teams set aside for me to work on to setup for endgame. What endgame content would you suggest to gun for first

[@lilbicpen8794]

The thing is no one uses elsharion in their team: since the dragon does most it’s damage using dots he steals the immunity and grants it on your team... GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT!!!!

[@seanhsieh6158]

Typically you kill the boss within 20 turns, which is the minimum required turn count for your units to die purely of dots.

[@seanhsieh6158]

@@pitsyie6066 Nothing wrong with that. If it works great.

[@MonkeyDKizu]

elsharion was given credit the moment the b12's came out, the problem with el is tht he doesnt do much until the boss stage so u need units to carry him plus if ur a new player u might not be abke to get him easily

[@seanhsieh6158]

@@MonkeyDKizu Also, correct me if I'm wrong, Elsharion only gets one roll to proc the strip on his skill 2, so just like another stripper like bella, he will always have a 15% chance to miss the strip even if he uses his s2. For a lot of people, that 15% chance to miss will mean the difference between a win and a loss.

[@Lil_Thiccy]

Alacia AI sucks, especially in faimon. She uses her s1, until there is 1 mon left, then uses an aoe attack

[@yurijia1894]

"nothing too crazy" Spectra got +100% Accuracy, +76% Cd, +40%Def, +110% ATk , + 90%Pv .... Yep nothing too crazy -_- But nothing that i can get close to >.>

[@chasepardo2143]

Would Bella2A be a good replacement for Loren? If Loren is mainly used for her strip, ATB reduction, and def break, then I think Bella would be much safer. At least Bella is smarter with her strip skill. I am not trying to say you're wrong. This is just what I think, but if I am wrong, could someone explain why I am wrong. Thanks

[@Gu3ssWhatsN3XT]

lmao i've been using lapis in dragons since i made my account 5 years ago. I absolutely can't get runes to progress further but still

[@GangstaGoz]

You've been farming dragons for 5 years, and haven't progressed? Surely you've finished the game, now it's only PvP left?

[@whiteshiro8937]

Jokes on you my lapis is my most reliable monster for worst case scenario

[@jeremiahbluehot4571]

... but what if the fourth thing goes wrong?

[@jeffmyers2339]

BAGEL! Try Taor instead of Spectra. That’s my team and I love it.

[@blackkyurem720]

He's trying to show people f2p farmable units that can do db12 so everyone has a shot.

[@LionGame100]

Isn't there a cap on accuracy for dragon? 100% seems wasteful

[@GamingWithBiku]

65 for Dragons

[@magicchi]

LionGame100 they do have high resis but I hear it’s 70%?

[@diregarath5986]

Yes 65 is the target - midboss wants more maybe.

[@DoKillaEnte]

@@diregarath5986 no its 65.

[@diregarath5986]

@@DoKillaEnte I said 65 is the target. Is midboss for dragons not annoying like giants? I haven't noticed.

[@TooSmartNA]

Am I the only person who watches every single one of his videos in .25x speed? Man, he is so dreamy.

[@MrSharkman19]

thanks for the info bagel

[@braiderzz4474]

Fed awakened lapis to 6* 30 minutes later Jewb uploads vid on how op she is damn I knew I shouldn't of fed her.

[@Hariol_]

This is why I keep one of each 4* I get, never know when they'll be buffed or when someone finds a good use for them.

[@Fahootaef]

It doesnt matter who you use as long as they have aoe atb decrease

[@absolutslayr8557]

Tomato account win rate is probebly 100% but then again he is God stats compared to us regular humans :P

[@samt3647]

For some reason (yeah.. probably my runes), I can't get this team to work.. at all! I used to be able to do db12 once in a while, but lately, its been eluding me completely.

[@joshuam7749]

In my experience Light ifrit is the best way around the high rune requirements. The problem is all he adds is a consistent strip so your 4 other monsters need to somewhat carry the team.

[@samt3647]

@@joshuam7749 thanks for the input . What unit should I replace with Elsharion?

[@joshuam7749]

@@samt3647 my most consistent team with him is verde loren roaq and spectra. If that isn't safe enough Roaq can be replaced with a healer like fran/lulu or cc unit like lapis. I recommended having roaq though unless you have enough hp to tank attacks in db12. I take out the towers first against the mid boss however if you replace roaq you might not need to. I can give you their stats if want it. (Also water jack-o'-lantern is great at light ifrit's role. I just don't have him sadly.)

[@darrinwaller6383]

Use verde, lapis x3, spectra and its 99.9% stable just need 180 spd vio runes on verde and 190 spd vio on Lapis's have spectra go first with a vio set too use accuracy sets for the off sets on Lapis's and spectra and u dont need to skill up spectra but if you do its 100%

[@darrinwaller6383]

Your ai is determined by what atks you choose when you first use your monster and if you use your 3rd skill when it's ready or 2nd skill it will throw that into the RNG table making it not always choose the 3rd skill when its available just like if raoq teams up with a monster and its skill becomes available you need to choose it first before the ai will do it automatically otherwise itll just use other skills

[@lurk5836]

lol lapis fed mine at the start

[@shinjiecary01]

Is there an updated video of this?

[@MaelZack]

I told many times to people use the freaking lapis... many times before even b12 existed

[@MrMusaw]

I really don't understand SW i'm using verdehile spectra, loren, sigmarus, homunculus, and they fail the slow like 2 times in a row every single one of them and all of them have more than 85% accuracy. I tryed lapis insted of sigmarus and they fail the slow xD I'm really getting crazy with this game.