The Nature of Perception - Rupert Spira

[@rockyrai7314]

Pure Gold. His sweet words of wisdom entering the mind like Bullet and dispelling the Ignorance. Smoothly and Humbly spreading the Love .❤🧡

[@normbabbitt4325]

This is the most clear expression of non-duality I've come across.

[@soundofm1352]

boy you must have been listening to the wrong speakers a lot then. because I see nothing particularly clear in these empty as well as hollow, of the well-beaten path descriptors and quotes strung very feebly together by his sole desire to come across as likable and sellable.

[@pavelpavel8413]

@@soundofm1352 🙈🙉🙊

[@joe5516]

Shut up

[@joe5516]

@@soundofm1352 Thank you.... this con man charges $1,000 per seat for his grandiose bullshit

[@Dantianblue]

@@joe5516 You don't have to pay it though, do you? Just test what he says and see if it works. What's so bad about that? Con man? Hardly.

[@sandraekhoff8937]

LOVE YOU RUPERT, I DONT HAVE WORDS TO EXPRESS YOU HOW THANKFULL I AM FOR YOUR TEACHINGS!! I I have tears of joy running down on my face!! Finding your teachings have been the best gift that the Universe could have ever gave me!!!!! Forever GRATEFUL!!

[@serafimsousa5383]

"I" know what "you" are saying, the most beautiful tears ever.

[@onlyonerombo]

Profound. An amazing teaching on the reality of life.... One humble man, sitting on a stool, with a glass of water and talking without a script. If you see and hear only that, it is the very perception he is talking about. Thank you Rupert 🙏🙏

[@synesthesia251]

you can only put this man down if you truly dont get what he is saying.. He is truly amazing once you fully get it

[@soundofm1352]

I fully get it. that is why I am out of here in two minutes.

[@danmc2678]

There is no you and there is no place to be "out of here".

[@Corey-gb1rx]

First you have to experience it to understand what he's pointing too. Once you've been there, yes he describes it so beautifully. Problem is most think they get it but it's only intellectual understanding they think they know about new York by reading about it but they have yet to experience new york.

[@jamestagge3429]

Lol, this guy is so full of shit its laughable. He contradicts himself with all that bugel oil about the awareness only knowing itself. Perception is not subjective as he claims. Perception is quantitatively OBJECTIVE and only qualitatively SUBJECTIVE. Our awareness never touches the objective world? Really? Consider a square and a circle. To be aware of each is to know unequivocally that the one is not and cannot ever be the other. That is quantitative. Perception/awareness cannot mistake each for the other. That is knowing or touching that which is outside itself. So too with our perception of the mouse and the tree, unequivocally we know the difference between the two no matter the circumstances or conditions. The subjective aspect of perception is that i might find the tree beautiful while you might find it ugly, but that it is a tree and not a mouse is an objective, unequivocal understating of our awarenesses. This guy is typical of philosophers, mucking up the mud in the bottom of the pond to try to sound enlightened and important. He's no better than a high school student in philosophy class or a first year college student. I've been listing to drivel like this for decades. What a meat head.

[@surendrasherchan1066]

This may devastatingly true of ultimate when we go deeper n deeper Afterall present neuroscientific knowledge keeps us guessing on many aspects of perception n experience

[@xPhreaky]

So clear and to the point sometimes teachers get so caught up expressing this in such a complicated way so as to lead the mind on more. Truly straightforward

[@modvs1]

Anthony F So did this talk aid you in your (future) capacity to cope with your immediate environment? How so?

[@knowthetruth311]

It's really painful when those teachers miss it all and instead make it a lito bit complex. But if you take time to study and understand then practice rupert teachings, freedom is guaranteed 😃😃😃

[@sarahcurry7543]

Rupert Spira is a 21st century Kirshnamurti 👏👏,so glad I found him 😍

[@mikelong7748]

Krishnamurti got everything he knows from the theosopy teachings so might be a starting point to look there in like them both too check out h p blavatsky founder of the theosopy society.

[@elzazen1358]

@@mikelong7748 Krishnamurti was so beyond theosophy... And is interesting to see Rupert talking with people of one Krishnamurti Foundation, they are as lost as the thesophists...😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3XWomibl5KtgKM

[@TapasRoy-il2se]

​@@mikelong7748 ❤❤ĺ

[@helmutwalch9867]

Of course 🤔 but is there a krishnamurti as an entity 🌊🥰

[@THANGNGUYEN-qq6cs]

His talks are so profound that I am sometimes scared to listen to, I think that is because my ego is afraid to be exposed. Amazing mind Mister SPIRA

[@kajalmilani4150]

No words can express I can only bow down in reverence thank you.

[@Paddyllfixit]

"please switch off all mobile phones"....and give this man and the complex phenomena he's attempting to convey, the respect it deserves, and not interrupt his train of thought.

[@gordonj5]

No words to express the gift of this lucid explanation. Thank you.

[@beyethedoor]

Thank you Rupert. You are a beautiful being. You speak Truth . I have never heard anyone speak of perception and awareness and truth so clearly. Thank you

[@srirajavatsavaisaraswathi6246]

The eternal Truth..explained in a very very..magnificently..at the same time simly ( if one is in that level of understanding)!! No more words to express..but to try..for that experience which Sir Rupert sincerely expresses from his own real experience by continuous sadhana .... My humble pranams. .to him...

[@marybalfanz]

Brilliant teacher.

[@zoranvanzindell]

He is astonishing!

[@joe5516]

Brilliant bullshitter

[@MUSICOBLISS]

True in Spira tion

[@noarelax]

no "conman" could be so generous and sincere- watch him answering people's questions... notice how he digs deep and never shirks the hard ones, either (questions). He really cares about what he does and goes above and beyond the call of duty- he's descriptive pointers are unequalled!

[@Eeksta4]

Thank you for both your time and consideration, Mr. Spira. Your demeanor and sincerity coupled with your eloquence is like a vorpal blade which cuts through all darkness, doubt and ignorance.

[@johnjorgensen-tu4fw]

I AM KNOWTHING!

[@BerylWhiting]

What a message! Love it.

[@geraldmccreery490]

pure awareness is an expression of pure silence, this can not be understood it must be experienced,. what one finds is that self realization happens when the mind's activity ceases. only in the innocent silence of being can one see. the techniques of meditation cause mental activity to slow down and eventually cease while yet remaining dynamic and focused. this is also apparent in rupert's talks where his words are surrounded by silence. a beautiful teaching a beautiful talk

[@KellyMcCarty]

Gerald Mccreery beautifully said :)

[@Corey-gb1rx]

Amen brother

[@redrawkblue]

A good modern synthesis of Ramana's core teachings. Nice use of the Screen metaphor. All that said, Self meeting Self...THAT'S all there is, whether identified with form or resting as no form. Good job.

[@grahamrobson998]

I am so very very grateful for the Help that I have found listening to Rupert Spira He gives so lovingly and freely. Which can not even be detected. His giving holds No trace of personal need. Thank you Rupert, words do not service in expressing my appreciation of the service you provide so freely and selflessly.

[@susanwale8887]

This sesión has been the clearest ever for me. Thank you so much Rupert. Amazing 🌷

[@teresadeagle3079]

Me too..So grateful and amazed at how I was naturally led to him..What a Blessing. 😍

[@heinzgassner1057]

Thank you Rupert. This is getting as clear and close as it can get, when trying to describe the indescribable with words. I studied 4 years of Tibetan Buddhism. These 40 minutes contain it all.

[@dancingdiamonddesigns413]

Full perception takes time and has to be experienced in order to understand fully what is being seen. It is revealed by "light" which is intelligence itself or himself or herself. Experience is what brings us closer to knowing or perceiving or perception.

[@kennethart4529]

He is very very good at what he is doing.

[@seangrieves4359]

Who's doing what and how? All there is, is the self.

[@kimelzen6951]

Dear Rupert - I so love you. SO grateful for your lucidity and exquisite spacing. You are essential to this world right now. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your dedication to Truth.

[@Nobody2310]

I feel I am void and at the same time everything, in other words I AM the experience itself. Did I get it correct? If yes, I have nothing to do but exist.

[@markhenry2726]

Ah.... this is the key to pure bliss. God bless this discovery.

[@ajjj7842]

Kya baat hai kch hi shabdon me sab kch smjha diya aapne

[@thomasbrouwer2771]

Still one of his best speeches in my opinion

[@archdeaconsall]

Bless you, Rupa Spira.

[@pdevika3629]

It's infinite awareness's love for the finite that it takes all forms and expressions to be that experience.🌺🙏 Thank you Rupert....!!!!!

[@akilahmessado9996]

I am so biased. Rupert is calm and clear. Thank you!!!

[@danielcarter6894]

This, is the embodiment of truth, if you ever wanted the meaning of life answered there it is. Infinite.

[@ChrisJonesSpain]

Everything Rupert says is brilliantly expressed, indeed dramatically expressed. It is a perfect analysis of the situation we find ourselves in. But why do I find myself feeling so uncomfortable listening to it, why do I feel even a little bit cheated by it? I think the answer is that we have someone very intellectually capable here, even someone who has had *some* insight into what this is all about but really doesn't know it. I've been lucky enough to meet some great sages over the last 40 years, many of whom have had little command of the English language and who have been relatively poor intellectually (some not so), but they were all able to somehow transmit that which they had truly found in their hearts, the very essence from which they lived. Here, I get no such feeling; clever words, clever concepts but somehow the true knowing is missing. But who am I to say - might be completely wrong!

[@fabianandresdemurogarcia8725]

Brillantly explained. Thanks Rupert.

[@Janu_Curado]

Another great example for Rupert-Yoga: the way of beauty. Thank you.

[@cindyfoxtaylor2880]

Amazing explanations. So helpful to me. Thank you.

[@ganasdehablar4335]

This is so beautiful, Rupert. Thank you so much for your clarity and serenity.

[@TheSolsonia2003]

Ultimate experience listening to him, as always Rupert Spira is....thank you with loving blessings...

[@Schirleyi8]

Belo ensinamento, quando entramos em nós mesmos e deixamos nossos pensamentos , sensações,medos ou por assim dizer temores etc... ignorados, e damos a devida atenção para dentro, estando ali mesmo vemos passar como um filme todas essa sensações descrita acima como testemunha de algo que não tinha a percepção vendo com olhos do objeto. O SUJEITO por assim dizer seria a SUPRA CONSCIÊNCIA que tudo sabe por si só orientando o objeto a compreender o estado do SUJEITO que é ELE a PRESENÇA no objeto.Muito obrigada

[@michaeldelisieux5252]

Beautifully said! Many (many) thanks!

[@prhughes0]

A great demonstration of the limits of introspection.

[@vrsampath]

Archai, the meditation on idols, has been in vogue since ancient times in India. Idols represent RUPA. That’s why temples were established with beautiful idols to worship, meditate upon or observe the sheer beauty.

[@robertobarajas2329]

Wonderful mind blowing information with great explanation!!

[@howardsway782]

What an interesting man. I would love to have the opportunity to explore many related subjects with him. Is mankind starting to remove the veil of duality either because people like Rupert are 'working it out for themselves' or are we slowly being 'fed information', in order to gently nudge us in the right direction?

[@nihalharidi7702]

All my gratitude n love Understanding finally happened🙏💕💕💕

[@tchansensho4912]

C'est très clair ! Merci Monsieur ++ It's very clear ! Thank you sir ++

[@RalphWilms]

wonderful, because essential and experiential demonstration of what pure perception is.

[@MrHamburgerHelper]

Beautifully spoken, Rupert! 🙏

[@cinmac3]

Rupert explains this well! that is because we we each see and understand our own view of reality.

[@rajagopalramani3719]

Excellent analletic explanation to understand and to be a conscious being, listen this wonderful voice of consciousness. A great Meditation of Oneness 💗🙏🙏🙏

[@BrainHardly]

poetic and even mesmerising....i get a altered state just listening,but i have never heard anyone really question rupert....when he speaks regarding what we see i imagined cracking the water vase over his head to enable a full range of perception and experience.........i am glad he exists, but lets have some searching debate....

[@Corey-gb1rx]

Then search yourself test it out. He's not saying to believe him beliefs just cover this truth up

[@sptomaz]

Wonderful! Thank you Rupert.

[@Mazurka1001]

Smart man. Love references to Blake and Cezanne...

[@deandonegan6763]

Amazing. Thankyou.

[@obowurx6625]

He who is looking, is what he is looking for.

[@TransferOfAwakening]

Are you aware? I think this is a wrongly worded question It makes it sound as if the awareness is a quality you posses like are you hot, are you cold, are you fat, are you short. If awareness is to be considered a quality that you posses then who are you - the body? In that case, this question images the same basic error that many others make. I think a better question is: Are you awareness? What (if any) is the difference between you and awareness? Are you life? (Not are you alive - life is not something you possess - body is something that might possess, might be aware of) What (if any) is the difference between you and life?

[@1fullservicelistingagent768]

+TOA (Transmission of Awakening) Life is made of objects. Awareness is pure consciousness or pure knowing.

[@Heroselohim]

+TOA (Transmission of Awakening) For some reason I still didn't grasped... "Are you aware?" opens more into the unknown.

[@ournelly1875]

TOA (Transmission of Awakening)

[@Uberlaser]

Part of this teaching is to lose the ego

[@flavianpetrulio52]

I would like to offer the following to all who care to read it with patience, - the focus is on the difference between immortal Mind/consciousness and mortal mind/consciousness (also referred to in the Bible as the carnal mind). I'm not a religionist; I am a spiritual Scientist although I may use biblical phrases from time to time. The carnal/mortal mind needs to be defined before we begin. The carnal mind and the corporeal senses combine as one, not two. It is the level of false awareness which perceives an erroneous universe, - an erroneous universe of people; of organic birth, maturity and death; of sickness; of finite material objects as well as self-destructive negative qualities such as human will power; depravity, ego or small "i", revenge, insecurity; pride, fear, hatred, etc. etc. Most importantly, the carnal mind and its emanations have no real existence just like the images in our night dreams have no real existence. Mortal mind is the suppositional absence of immortal Mind. Mortal consciousness is the suppositional absence of immortal consciousness. Mortal mind and immortal Mind never mix nor mingle. They are diametrically opposed to each other in the same fashion as light and darkness. With the above in mind, I offer the following information to ponder deeply: When we dream at night, most people believe we are in a body which can see, feel, smell, taste and touch that which appears to be solid objects in space/time. But obviously, we know we were never in the "dream body/brain." It was the carnal mind which created the belief of the "dream body/brain." But when we are "awake", most people definitely without a doubt believe we exist or live in a "real" body and mind is in the brain. Why do most people believe this is 100% true beyond any doubt? This may be why: 1. Our night dream is an individual experience which doesn't last long and from night to night, there is no continuity. But our "awake" state is a collective experience shared by other people which appears to have some kind of continuity from day to day making us believe it must be real compared to the night dream experience. 2. From the time of so-called human birth, we were educated to believe mind was in the body/brain by other people who also believed mind was in the body/brain and consequently, this belief has been handed down for thousands and thousands of years. It's a form of hereditary hypnosis! 3. The prevailing scientific theory is that the matter universe came first and eventually, inanimate matter on this planet somehow became animate matter in the form of single living cells and evolved into conscious beings. This theory/belief/solid conviction of matter evolving mind is so deeply-rooted in human consciousness that most of mankind automatically believes it to be 100% true beyond a shadow of a doubt. Based on #3, the prevailing thought in the scientific community is that mind/consciousness must be in the brain. After all, if you hit someone on the head with a lead pipe, they appear to lose consciousness. If you give them an anesthetic, they appear to lose consciousness. If you kill them, they appear to lose consciousness. Generally speaking, this belief causes the physicists, philosophers and medical community (I have deep respect for all) to spend a lot of time and energy trying to discover how the brain creates consciousness. So far, they have failed miserably. They really have no clue. That's why they call it the "hard problem." They are so stuck on this deep-rooted belief that mind is in the body/brain, - they are in complete bondage to this age old model of thinking. They may have determined there are correlations between mind and brain; but that doesn't mean brain produces mind/consciousness anymore than believing the visible image on the TV screen is producing the invisible broadcast signals originating outside the TV set. The other day, I saw clearer than ever before and it hit me like a ton of bricks, - mind is not in the body/brain or in anything at all. Just as the carnal mind is not in the "dream body/brain" -- the carnal mind is not in the "awake body/brain" either. The finite, material universe of want and woe which we perceive via the carnal mind/corporeal senses (recall the above definition) is in the carnal mind; a product and projection of the carnal mind similar to how a movie is projected onto a screen but is actually coming from inside the movie projector. If the movie projector was shut off, the image on the screen would naturally disappear. But the carnal mind and everything produced by the carnal mind is a mirage, including itself. There is no truth in the carnal mind. It is a liar and the father (i.e. origin or source) of the lie. If it is true that Mind is not in the body/brain, what does this tell us? It means it must have come before matter and not after matter as the theory of evolution claims. If Mind came before matter, then matter could not have created Mind. If matter didn't create Mind, then Mind must be self-existent, self-sustaining and self-perpetuating. Since the carnal mind is a mirage and a liar, it has no real existence. The only thing that could possibly be left is the self-existent, self-sustaining and self-perpetuating divine Mind. This Mind must be timeless and space-less; it has no awareness of corporeality, pride, evil, greed, sorrow, insecurity, fear, revenge, hatred, etc.; it only knows its own incorporeal and infinite ideas of itself; it is pure and perfect, - uncontaminated by the erroneous beliefs of a finite, material universe of sin, sickness and death. All the erroneous beliefs of the carnal mind are simply unknown and non-existent to the level of divine consciousness symbolized by divine Mind. Unlike the analogy of the movie projector in which the carnal mind can be shut off, the divine Mind and its incorporeal, eternal images of itself can never be shut off. No matter what seems to happen within the realm of the so-called carnal mind, it is impossible for it to affect divine Mind in any way, shape or form! Divine Mind is impenetrable to anything which opposes its own nature. When consciousness reflects absolute Truth (i.e. divine Mind), the carnal mind spontaneously and instantaneously disappears into its native nothingness because it has no truth to sustain its imaginary existence. In reality, there is only one Mind emanating infinite, individual expressions of the one Mind; yet at the same time still remaining the one Mind. There are not many minds. Since this Mind is self-existent, it must be immortal and eternal. It is completely free from all that is unlike Spirit, God...because it is Spirit, God. It is our one and only real Mind. Our real, true identity is not a corporeal being (two eyes, arms legs, etc.). The corporeal being is a false image projected and painted onto the canvas of mortal consciousness by the so-called carnal/moral mind. Our real, true identity is the image and likeness of immortal Mind, - the pure and perfect, incorporeal idea of infinite Spirit, God. Immortal Mind has never, for one second, stopped being our real Mind (which is not in anything) and we have never, for one second, stopped being the pure and perfect, incorporeal idea of infinite Spirit, God, our real Mind. We just mistakenly believed we fell into a deep sleep, separated ourselves from immortal Mind and were mesmerized by the false belief that we became the dream of the carnal mind. Dream and dreamer are one. As the Psalmist wrote: "As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be sat­isfied, when I awake, with thy like­ness."

[@XxXjuan96carlosXxX]

From reading it, i can tell you understand experientially

[@devanshudesperado]

Best summary of advait vedanta

[@richardg3n3sis37]

Thank you

[@MrBillcallahan]

Rupert is this centuries Alan Watts.

[@sonnycorbi6406]

+Bill Callahan On the topic at hand - I love Peter Russell - He speaks with a clear concise voice - I give Allen Watts ten thumbs up but this guy is tripping on his on utopia - It's not what he is saying it's the way he says it - Check out J. Krishnamurti - I mean this Rubert guy is just in ah of himself - Maybe I should go back and listen to him again, it could be me? Maybe it was a bad day, I don't know - I'll listen to him again right now and get back to you, Billy

[@MrBillcallahan]

We each respond to different people in different ways . Perhaps it's conditioning?

[@sonnycorbi6406]

+Bill Callahan That sounds right -

[@soundofm1352]

as Alan Watts was last century's nobody.

[@soundofm1352]

what kind of a question is this.

[@mollyclock8238]

i am starting to understand, why i, was led, . here.

[@johnbirvin]

What video camera was used to film this? Very good quality under low light.

[@animalliberationCLBB]

❤❤ wow teach this in every school 🎉

[@davidreynolds4942]

You speak of how most everyone lives believing they are characters in the movie I experience life as the incredible trailer of the movie

[@nusphere]

Oh ok... I have no idea what a "flicker fusion frequency" is? sound exciting though! Where can I find out more about such things? cheers :)

[@leaberle1184]

Beautiful ♥️🙏

[@brahms44ify]

Aren't there different levels of seeing and knowing. Most people see and know through a very narrow glass,"through a glass darkly". ...and what would enlighten the glass would be a higher level of consciousness.What Spira says is good intellectual understanding , which must have come from deep experience, most of us are so identified that there is little awareness, no less consciousness. Identification does not allow for experience of the infinite.Most, are not aware.

[@doriesse824]

To whom is he referring when he says, "If 'we' think of ourselves as...."? Who is "we"? I thought there was only "I Am".

[@bernardchampeau5301]

He is talking to anyone believing to be separate from their own experience and from others, we, poor mortals.. :-)

[@doriesse824]

And yet he says there is no one having a separate experience, so how can something non-existent believe anything.

[@bernardchampeau5301]

Yes, isn't it strange ? He is no one talking to no one, you are no one answering and arguing, and I am no one trying to explain. There is a belief appearing out of nowhere. This belief is mistaking itself for someone believing something. This is the Mysterious Poetry of Awareness, what Rupert also calls Love or Beauty.

[@peterjones6507]

The power of Maya.

[@tamaranesic4917]

How does the movie appear or begin?

[@teresadeagle3079]

Bravo !! 👏👏👏

[@cvan7681]

he talks about belief and perception as though we all do it the same way. Consciousness is unlimited, but he is limited in his thinking. He has a position, which is a choice, but the universe has no positions, or choices until we, as experiencers and creators, have one. The Consciousness of the Universe is not limited to human figures of speech or constructs of thought...

[@Paddyllfixit]

there is the self and the Subliminal Self.

[@junevandermark952]

The scientific meaning of the word “spirit” in Latin, simply meant, “To breathe.” Theologians took the word “spirit” on a religious journey, away from science, with the flamboyant claim, “God breathed the spirit of life into Adam's nostrils.” I want to know, if Adam was the first man to materialize on earth, who was there to write that story?

[@onetwozerojourney]

Ohm symbol is not only representing Energy and Matter relationship but also the Awareness too. It is the symbol of Brahman.

[@NisargaYoga]

What about hearing?

[@dfergus04111972]

I believe that Spira is referring to a knowing that is part and parcel of the universal conciousness. If indeed our conciousness is of the universal conciousness then by implication, all knowledge that is part of that conciousness is ours to know. It has been proposed that the universe is holographic in nature. This means that every part of the universe is contained in every other part. At least in the form of information content. Or that is perhaps the way I understand it. After all my face doesn't look anything like the Sun. Spira is saying in his own way that conciousness is this way. Conciousness is holographic. And indeed, if the universe is holographic in nature, so indeed is conciousness.

[@deep3458]

Wauw this is so clear. Often heard. Hope iT is time iT really slnks in

[@waynebaldwin6859]

How is it known to be "eternal" infinite" "eternal" being from being just knowing itself?

[@dasfreutmich1]

Can anyone please explain what he means when he says .... you never experience a room, but only the perception of it. Can you explain the same thing taking a spoon as an example ? It would then mean, that, 1- you never experience a spoon, but only the perception of it... and then 2- what happens if you go ahead and touch it ? I hope I am making sense here. Thank You. Can someone please elaborate on these points.... #1 and #2 .. Thank You!!!!

[@Ravasssz]

You never experience anything other than the perceptions of it. Seeing, hearing, touching, smelling are all perceptions. You can never really come contact with the world outside. In your second example, you do not come contact with the spoon, you are experiencing the sensation of touch which is a perception just as well as the sight of the spoon. All these experiences happen in our consciousness, made out of consciousness and known by our consciousness. We take the world outside for granted, but in reality, there is nothing else but experiences and perceptions appearing in our consciousness.

[@divinechemechanical]

Wouldn't one more properly state that the perception IS the thing, not that the perception is "of" some "other" thing? My understanding is that the perception is precisely the thing. Thus, the whole debate about whether one contacts "the world outside" is really a non-issue, because one does not need to posit an "outside" world, nor disprove it, for the world is a perception, and the perception is the reality. It is the nature of both the world and perception which needs to be adjusted, not just the world. The perception (sight, smell, touch, taste) of the orange is the orange, not that the perception is of some mysterious unknown object beyond the perception. There is no world outside, for there is no outside. Yet, perception is not merely a fleeting mirage or imagination, but is a matrix of Consciousness where the root Consciousness maintains the continuity of "perceivables," stabilizes, say, the orange such that one can combine two similar perceptions and call them both "orange."

[@edzardpiltz6348]

@@divinechemechanical, partly agreed. But what is generating the perceptions when there are no objects but perception. That would mean no eyes, no erst, nose ect... So how can there be perceptions when the perceiving organs itself consists only of perceptions. Would it then still be correct to talk about perceptions, or wouldn't it be more true to say that everything we experience is an arising in conciousness known by conciousness. I think this is also Ruperts angle.

[@Corey-gb1rx]

When you see color you are seeing different frequencies of light. your brain marks these frequencies as distinct colors within your perception. Your not seeing the light as waves moving with different rates of oscillation which is really what it is. Your perception colors the wave. It marks it with specific colors to make the information useful for your survival. Your perception is not showing you what really is it divides things up to make information useful

[@zboy_7619]

This deep man!

[@WaterSeesWater]

This reminds me of Rudolf Steiner's< Goethe's World view>.

[@richsoar2009]

Knowing is in experience, and...? That's 19:50 all she wrote.

[@NadiaFranke]

I wonder why awareness needs to be watching the "movies". It is not so fun to be the finite separate self most of the time. The bodies have nervous systems which feel and have emotions, pain, etc.Even being aware of the awareness in us, there is no way we can avoid the pain, mainly the physical pain. Couldn't awareness be simply itself ?

[@helmutwalch9867]

Said the wave 🌊 on the sea when it still firmly believed 😵‍💫 to be an entity. 🫵😜 we are activities 🌊🌊 not entities 💭. This perspective 👀 makes you realize that everything you do, you have done to yourself 🥰 . Yes, only this truth, when it is understood, ⚡️ will simply wipe away all dream wars, strife, misery and suffering and never be noticed again. The truth is always very simple 🥰🙏 all good things from activity to activity 👀👀😜 awareness is what you are 🥰 there is nothing to do, just „being“ whiteout „doing“ ! All the problems came from „ your doing 🪄 by thinking! There are no problems whiteout „ thinking problems! All the best 🥰 from the perspective as a „AKTIVITY“ 🫵 not a „ENTITY“ YOUR DOING WILL BE MUCHE BETTER 🥰

[@NadiaFranke]

@@helmutwalch9867 Thanks for the reply !!

[@helmutwalch9867]

@@NadiaFranke 🥰

[@FreeFlow__]

Could anyone please explain what he means with "the screen"?

[@MidiwaveProductions]

Free Flow. It is a metaphor. The TV-screen is awareness/consciousness. When there is no movie playing on the screen there is awareness aware of itself (the screen). When a movie is playing it is awareness that modulate itself into colors, shapes and is witnessing it´s own modulations. From the perspective of a character in the movie there are objects and separate selfs (bodies). From the perspective of awareness there is only itself --- no objects and separate selfs.

[@FreeFlow__]

Thanks. Can this be used the same way in the screen of seeing?

[@MidiwaveProductions]

Free Flow. The screen is the seeing. In other words: There is not a screen and a seeing. It is One. You are and you are aware that you are. I am that.

[@Corey-gb1rx]

@@MidiwaveProductions beautifully said my friend

[@issackabdi6946]

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[@modvs1]

@11:58...look around you, can anyone see anyone 'doing anything' other than talking? What happened to 'action'? (the thing cognition usually plays a role in coordinating).

[@aifcee]

If you're going to use quote, at least get them right ! Cézanne said the following : One day will come when a mere carrot will engender a revolution - Un jour viendra où une simple carotte fera naître une révolution. The "freshly observed' is an utter invention. Signed : As Aware as I'll ever be !

[@peterjones6507]

The revolution can only happen if the carrot is freshly observed. I doubt Cezanne would have a problem with Spira's exposition.

[@susanabeatrizkober610]

Infinite means finite inside.

[@pedrogonzales9202]

“Nor does it know anything of an outside world”... if it is not aware of an outside world- how can it be said to be ‘infinite’ awareness? Infinite up to the edge of my personal world? Not trying to argue- but to understand. It is said that God is omniscient. That means it must know all- including what I see as an outside wold. If not then what is seeing what I see if it is illusion?

[@hhhstar]

If the doors of perception get cleansed, and everything appears to man as it really is, infinite, how are people not going to get old, or a banana not become rotten, as it does?

[@MrBillcallahan]

+hhhstar What people, what banana? They are just perceptions.

[@sonnycorbi6406]

+Bill Callahan What you just posted is a perception -

[@MrBillcallahan]

+Sonny Corbi No what I just posted is a thought

[@sonnycorbi6406]

+Bill Callahan a perception about your thoughts - or thoughts about your perception, which is it :-) We experience - The ramifications of those experiences substantiate or solidify those perceptions

[@MrBillcallahan]

I am perceiving thinking about perceiving a thought?

[@John4707]

At 15:41 I begin to disagree. He assumes that humans have encountered a knowing of everything and therefore see with their memories only. This does not hold true. Babies have no knowing. Yet they do use their senses to build a knowing. Humans of other cultures build different knowings. It is not impossible to sense something you have never experienced. The senses all all about learning new things. Anyone?

[@John4707]

Babba Gum That is exactly my argument he seems to contradict himself. With all due respect, you have to define heaven for me.Is it a desire to be had over just an empty brain. It suggests that a person wants something which goes against the whole philosophy of meditation and awareness.

[@John4707]

Babba Gum I need to listen to this video again I suppose. I do appreciate your comment and I do see how perusing this is beneficial to you. By the quality of your writing I assumed this was your mother tongue. Be well.

[@Corey-gb1rx]

He means you, the knower of your thoughts is unknowable indefinable. Good analogy is how you see through your eye balls but you can't see the eye balls themselves

[@Ladybirdsin16mm]

""You do not know what a single thing is". "Feel the mystery" Adi Da Samraj

[@jamestagge3429]

The simple fact is that perception is of a construction that is well beyond that function of the brain, though rooted in it. There is nothing, not a single quality in any existent or its interrelations with any other existent which in any sum or multiple can give rise to self-awareness. That is a fact. Neuroscience of the materialist bent is ridiculous and one dimensional in its analysis, i.e., that the mind is merely the consequence of brain function. Were this true, the abstract nature of this very discussion could not take place or have any meaning at all. The process of perception at its fundamental level is fairly straight forward. As i mentioned in a previous post, it is quantitatively objective and qualitatively subjective and this fact is inescapable. Can anyone explain how or under what circumstance the square could be mistaking for the circle? (do not mistake that were the visual system taxed to its functional limits that this means it is not objective quantitatively. That a camera cannot take a picture of atoms does not indict the technology of photography). Can one mistake the mouse for the tree? NO! From such basic, unequivocal perceptions, we can come to understand the epistemological process for what it is and know it is not the drivel this guy is peddling.

[@pedrogonzales9202]

Sincere question: In light of this teaching: WHAT is Jesus Christ?

[@timothymanning8186]

"I tell you the truth; even before Abraham was, I AM."

[@pedrogonzales9202]

Timothy Manning Thank you. I understand. I get caught in all the dogma and don’t know where to place it. I mean all the details of the story, the meaning of the crucifixion, redirection.... Can I ask you another question?

[@timothymanning8186]

@@pedrogonzales9202 Of course

[@pedrogonzales9202]

Timothy Manning I don’t even know how to ask. I’m very attracted to Rupert and his very clear and simple teaching. Simple not to be confused with easy. There are glimpses I have but mostly I’m hook, line, and sinker as a separate self, writhing in resistance and apparent suffering. I look toward Rupert, then I go back to the world of the most intense evil, bloodshed, economic strife and sorrow. Sometimes I think somehow Rupert is too naive and has no idea the level of organized slavery on this planet. I’ve been convinced over years of hearing about the “New World Order and the legions who day and night carry out the will of Satan. Years ago most would have thought this to be all made up, but in our day there is too much testimony and witness to massive amounts of child sacrifice going on at the level of elites. Does this man live in a completely different reality where evil does not exist? He mentions suffering with examples of a man losing his girlfriend! I live in Nicaragua where bloodshed by the government onto the people is blatant. Midnight hauls out of the house and into the night and a bullet through the head- only for resistance to the government plans of total power. Rupert seems very compassionate but is either naive or just doesn’t recognize by way of concession that for huge numbers of the people live in a kind of suffering that makes losing a girlfriend a cakewalk. I hope you get a sense of what I’m asking. Rupert is obviously wealthy and those who fly in to attend his meetings are likely affluent. Is this a teaching for the wealthy?

[@timothymanning8186]

@@pedrogonzales9202 I too asked very similar questions at the beginning of my journey. The Rothschild's, Soros, organised media control, systematic poisoning, and yes, genocide. It may be hard for you to understand right now pedro, but this is all miniscule. It legitimately doesn't matter. Yes, he lives in a different reality from yours per say. I say that bc you're not living in reality. He is. Where you see evil, where you see very real enemies, a realised one sees only ignorance. That is to say, that they aren't really evil. They're just like animals, willing to kill in order to satisfy their instincts. Insticts fueled by a very wrarped sense of reality. It is only bc of their intellect that they seem evil. That it seems God has abandoned us, or that he allows it. But in reality they are no different than helpless animals responding to impulses, to their environment. The intellect of an ignorant (evil) mind gives you the impression that they are an enemy. But the realised one hates an evil mind no more than a lion that preys on the weak. Yes he is aware of evil. He just isn't afraid nor sees it as very important as he sees it as it is, as I have explained. I was a major conspiracy theorist before the power of now. Now I live in a completely different world. Yes, I'm also aware of evil. But these things are natural, believe it or not. As it is the same awareness that "perpetuates" evil that does good as well. It's all about perspective.

[@prhughes0]

Yep!

[@mvigoren34]

Brilliant

[@christinas.4342]

I have to agree with him, this is difficult to listen to for 40 minutes.

[@kamleshbagrecha7957]

Thank you 🍑🍓🍉🙏

[@lubaird]

Not meant spitefully but really ... there is no need to underline the profundity of the subject matter by inserting exasperatingly long pauses! A more fluid pace would far better allow the eloquent content to speak for itself. The random insertion of bonkers silences presumably to encourage us all to be extra reflective makes a mockery of the actual content. If we tune in we're interested and it would be great to simply speak at a normal pace; it would enhance rather than distract from the listening!

[@tipoquecomenta]

In his own words, what he says or writes are evocations of conciousness, not descriptions. The pauses, in my experience, are useful to let that which the words "evoke" grow and settle. If you are hungry for something purely intellectual and descriptive, then I understand they can be of hinder. Maybe you should think of it as a... guided meditation.

[@david203]

Lou Baird, My suggestion would be to read any of Spira's books. They repeat what he says in public without the pauses. Note that Spira, like other awakened teachers, never prepares for a talk. He speaks as the words come to him. For more information on this, see the excellent comment by tipoquecomenta.

[@afreshlife422]

Agreed Lou, and I sense your respect for what he says. I too have to listen tediously around the personality and presumptions inserted into this dialogue as a kind effect we should "perceive" necessary for a venerable guru or something. The matter at hand is quite mind-stopping enough without the distractions that put that off.

[@crowbear516]

+Lou Baird Still getting caught up in this sort of silliness?

[@dalehoole7557]

Nonsense

[@mollyclock8238]

this is where i am supposed to be, at this moment... (.........in time............)

[@endar117]

I don't think his intention is to entertain.