The NBA Hoopers vs Scorers Debate SETS OFF Gil's Arena

[@earthquakenate]

I always thought: Hooper= street baller Basketball player =PRO or System player Scorer= Iso player or go-to guy

[@deezyhardaway1230]

Gil is right

[@NoahTyG]

Perfect way to put it

[@OmariomBrown]

y'all gotta be from the west coast

[@NitroMarvelous]

Someone pin this

[@JeremyPrukop]

Fact's

[@DMaC02121]

Jennings and McCants putting their combined 3 brain cells together is pure comedy lol

[@Joshdifferent]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@brainfranklin134]

But who are you supposed to be ? Goofy

[@tbjb009]

​@@brainfranklin134damn bruh, is it that "time of the month?" 🤔

[@Drewcat07]

Gil the dumbest one

[@simaaj22]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brandonmaxile7866]

Rashad is the type to say disagree on scientific evidence because it’s his opinion 😂

[@jaliancasey5409]

He pretty much sums up Kobe fans and Bron haters

[@genasavage6077]

@@jaliancasey5409 pretty much sums up LeBum period you gotta be braindead and mentally challenged to believe any of that

[@anthonywillis3676]

Bruh changed up to many times lol

[@UndefeatedCJ]

@@jaliancasey5409 any players fans/haters do the same thing not just Bron and Kobe's. If you're a fan/hater then usually emotion is involved so opinions fly.

[@SpyderNga]

@@UndefeatedCJfr we don’t even need to compare just watch greatness happen

[@Mrlp700]

Arguing with McCants is like arguing with yo sibling and they know they wrong lol

[@hkoranteng]

lol McCants went from “what’s always been the definition” to “I don’t know stak just said it” loool

[@DJBorellis]

He didn't change what he said.. he's speaking to the topic of what someone said..

[@bernardfletcher1839]

@@DJBorellishe literally did wtf you listening to?

[@greg4880]

Rashad deadass made me google if NBA players could get CTE 😂

[@marc2wavy263]

Bro 😂😂😂

[@pmcneil15]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@WiggleStixProductions]

💀💀💀

[@SociallyStudied]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@carl1799]

Yooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@M1ss1ngRa88it]

Im 48 and from Asia. The way I learned, hoopers are them boys who hoops all day on their local parks or gyms, they dont care abt plays and positions, u just hoop all the time. Basketball player are them ppl who plays mostly organized ball, go to training and camps, cares about positions and plays....

[@lukhanyosotyingwa1680]

Im 37 and from South Africa 🇿🇦. This is the universal understanding of what the difference between a Hooper and a Basketball player has been since forever. These people will change narrative to suit whatever they want.

[@jaydell4039]

You are correct

[@OthoWilliamsJr]

That's exactly what it is.... Thank you, been this way before I was born in 1982, American Blaxk Man💯✌🏾🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@Chrispullin_]

Correct!!!!!! Bingo! Ding ding ding!!!!

[@poloralphy69]

Rashaad is all over the place...first he agrees then Gil...pulled up his stats he starts crying

[@ProfJonJon]

Don’t forget lebron averaged 37 PPG against McCants

[@VonteXP]

Your efficiency in posting this comment is insane

[@Corey-kk2dp]

Don't forget you were 14 months sold during their last matchup

[@robfoster8356]

😂😂😂😂 ​@@VonteXP

[@ProfJonJon]

@@Corey-kk2dp i’m in my thirties and insulting someone’s age is a lazy cringe way to make fun of someone. do better

[@ProfJonJon]

@@VonteXP it’s dying unfortunately

[@RecencyBiasRadio]

8:20 When she said Jrue Holiday wasn’t a hooper, I couldn’t take her opinion seriously

[@ilykeandre3898]

Exactly I always skip when she talks

[@lando24k51]

0:48 I don’t even need to watch the rest of the video 😂😂😂Gil that’s exactly what I thought a “hooper” was my whole life.

[@sirhoopalot1125]

Gil just salty he didn’t play defense

[@TrappyQ]

Brandon be sitting up there acting like a bad bitch LMAO bouncing his head rolling his eyes making annoyed faces .

[@MajorLeague2423]

Dude annoying asf

[@Antski_718]

Facts lmao & some of his takes are really bad

[@Nooneshouldknowme]

Say that to his face 😂😂 I dare you 😤

[@harborboi]

@@Nooneshouldknowmelmaoo he aint tough like that get off his 🍆

[@TrappyQ]

@@Nooneshouldknowme shut up young man

[@TurKishsoulja]

Stak just made a definition out of no where just to make himself better than he was lol

[@waynemakeitcount6962]

Basically staks suck

[@MRHIPHOPVEGAN]

@@waynemakeitcount6962goofy

[@boombenjamin92]

Stack was actually cold and gave buckets. I watched him. If Indiana didn't have that brawl I think they go all the way that year and play the Spurs over the Pistons. Stack was good in Indy, Warriors and Bobcats when he got out the Spurs system. Even Spurs he hit clutch buckets.

[@Senzel100]

Stack is an nba champion and started every game for the 03 spurs in the playoffs.😮

[@natothegreat3981]

⁠@@boombenjamin92exactly Steph Jackson was cold guarded some of best perimeter players and gave buckets

[@georgejones2880]

Brandon Jennings wasn’t stopping nobody and Macants wasn’t scoring enough but they hoopers? Make it make sense

[@MyAutoTune]

💯

[@BH71830]

Facts

[@truegrizzlesfan2292]

Remember no pro athlete is stopping any one bec they are pros. Hoopers play both ends even if they get score on but give effort Have you heard the terminology of good defense and better offense. Point don't matter.

[@GeeCruz-rb3wt]

You never watched mccants huh I could tell

[@georgejones2880]

@@truegrizzlesfan2292my point is the criteria they are giving a hooper they themselves don’t fit it while calling themselves hoopers. They more fit what the basketball community born before the 2000s would call a hooper. There are definitely people in the league that consistently get stops Jennings was never one of them

[@Augrills]

This is the most pointless conversation I've ever heard

[@BL3T4_GaMeZ]

Stephen Jackson is talking about Gilbert Arenas. Not defending just scoring. All mouth and not winning.

[@fairviewgreensmade]

Gil was the best player on his team whenever he played. Stak was arguably the best only when he played for the Bobcats and they never won anything.

[@standup3686]

🎯 And that's why Gil is trying to discredit him. Who TF googles defensive stats of a player's entire career?? We have eyes, we see who plays Good defense.. Dude was on his phone for 15 minutes of the segment.

[@dandailydigitalAI]

That's why Gil is offended

[@teamgreats4084]

​@@fairviewgreensmadeStupid, Gil didn't play DEFENSE....... S Jack got buckets and stopped people.... You defending Someone who is blatantly disrespecting Kobe?!?!?!

[@teamgreats4084]

​@@standup3686EXACTLY.....Gil SOFT

[@mikeillgaming4224]

A hooper is the guys at the park .. a basketball player is a organized basketball player I had a wake up call once i played organized basketball in HS .. gil is right

[@SSJRome]

These definitions and terminologies change every year man smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@blinblinthing]

Exactly. if you like someone and you want to pretend they are better than someone you hate, you add in a random term and say whatever you feel like.

[@corpyhogan4433]

@@blinblinthing this is exactly the mentality people use when they try to put harden over D Wade at all time

[@Mind-H-Walk]

Also depending on where you grew up lol

[@kingshabazz1310]

Exactly. When I grew up, if u were dedicated to playing ball you were a “hooper”. Being a scorer, shooter, 2 way guy etc were all subsets of “hoop”

[@kidceph8088]

@@blinblinthing FAAAAAAAACCCTTTTSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@seanieranz1287]

Stephen Jackson changed up the definition of hooper and people are running with it 😂 Iverson, Marbury, Steph, Vince Carter, and Kyrie aren’t hoopers? Cmon man lol

[@Y_dz1]

Steph plays defence

[@CoachHef]

😂

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

It was no definition for Hooper. In his post he stated what it was in his opinion. McCants and I agree with what he said because he actually did it and it makes perfect sense. Gil is in his feelings because Stephen Jackson said he wasn't a hooper. Y'all weak

[@tomslick133]

AI n Chef led the league in steals before

[@goat.1376]

@@tomslick133steals have very little correlation with defense. Steph and AI are viewed as subpar defenders all time. Harden has been a leader in steals 😂😂

[@colinnixon7739]

Stak made a extremely specific definition that makes him look amazing. 😂😂😂

[@jusskb5]

When I was growing up a hooper meant someone you looked at that was killing people on the court with their offensive skills and talent. No one from what I remember classified a defensive person as a hooper. When you look at the Nick Youngs, the D Russells, James Hardens you say yoooo they hoopers. My biggest issue with ppl like Mccants is they allow 1 person to make their own definition and say yep that's it that's what it is no it's not.

[@disciple37mt]

A hooper is the guy who can cook anyone but doesn’t do well in an organized game or structure!

[@DPumm360]

This is how I look at it as well

[@meaux-kneaux]

False. They can definitely do what you said but the word hooper is only talking about how they put the ball in the basket. MJ was a hooper too. Hooper is just a sub category. It's like we are all homosapiens but then you got men, women, kids as a sub category.

[@disciple37mt]

@@meaux-kneaux correction, MJ wasn’t human on the court and we are still trying to figure out what exactly he is! 😂😂😂

[@ericsmith2129]

What ??? In order to hoop up gotta play both ends

[@josephbell2436]

Agreed

[@CaptainUncle1836]

Stack watching this chaos hes created in a dark room like Mr Burns saying ' Excellent '😂😂

[@kealunleday3948]

😆😆😆

[@hok937]

It don’t take much for these guys to at each other tbh

[@dongreenwood3924]

Hooper ain't got nothing to do with defense. Hooper is a guy that can give u buckets don't matter if it's at the park, church league, 1v1, 3v3, 5v5 etc

[@MasterSlime03]

So ima hooper? Thanks for setting the bar bro ✊🏾

[@Bmrk349]

It’s just a definition. It’s like arguing with a person who says soda instead of pop

[@Joshdifferent]

Exactly

[@704jizzle2]

YALL saying anything just to go against mccants if he taking over the game BOTH sides of the ball that's a HOOPER if he just scoring he was a scorer AKA BASKETBALL player AKA A SPECIALIST

[@HomerunsamSOSA]

@@704jizzle2a basketball player can do it all a scorer is a guy who scored a hooper is a guy like KD

[@dandylawe8875]

Scorer- Maxey Shooter- Duncan Robinson Hooper- KD Defender- Caruso Basketball Player- Kyle Anderson, Josh Giddy, Podziemski, Jaime Jaquez

[@dandylawe8875]

Scorer- Someone who is good at scoring and not much else Shooter- Someone who's good at shooting and not much else Hooper- Someone who loves playing basketball all day everyday and they are scorers who can do a little more than score Defender- Someone who is good at defense and not much else Basketball Player- Someone who plays basketball better than average. They're all around players who don't really have a specialty The terms are easy to understand and there's no problem with them. The problem is some people in the basketball community try to twist these terms to discredit players that's where the problems and confusion comes from. "Oh he's just a scorer" "He's just a defender"

[@DirtySouth56]

Yall just making all this shit up. Pro basketball players and casuals who play basketball alot or eat sleep n shit basketball are hoopers. All of them the same fucking thing. We can just categorize what level of player they are. Yall stack minions share the same brain cells with him

[@hesohit]

so what is jordan? Hopper? what is Curry? Shooter? i can argue they can

[@geradfast5549]

Mccants be so bitter for no reason that his takes make no sense.. he fight soo hard to be different then when you ask for details.. you realize his argument is super shallow with no real meaning

[@Unc0nquered]

They need to bring Cash Nasty in for this convo. Have Cash to explain the difference between a Hooper, Hooper Hoper, and a Hoopist! 😂 @CashNastyGaming

[@lulcj9235]

I’m not a hooper hooper I’m just a hooper😂😂😂😂

[@cozzyono]

😂forgot about the tiers to being a hooper

[@qodiene]

😂

[@Galjamakarova6ks2b-wx1ed]

You never fail to keep it interesting!

[@blackesttv1585]

Sorry Gil but Steven Jackson is right…I don’t think only scorers should be allowed in the top 15 all time. Bruh your not a basketball player your a specialist like a kicker 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@bernardfletcher1839]

Lmao calling a scorer a kicker is crazy

[@blackesttv1585]

@@bernardfletcher1839 thats all they do. That’s how a specialist is

[@bernardfletcher1839]

@@blackesttv1585 bro a kicker just does one thing he’s not in every play..

[@blackesttv1585]

@@bernardfletcher1839 a scorer is just one thing. And a scorer can disrupt the team chemistry. And most times they are defensive liabilities

[@blackesttv1585]

@@bernardfletcher1839 all yall see is the 30 they score not the 35 they gave up

[@carlosduncan1389]

Im wit Lexi and Gil….. growing up, a Hooper was synonymous with a ” And-1” type of player. Someone who didn’t need to stretch, didn’t need hooping shoes, and would still ball out on court because of their skill set offensively. They never played defense lol. AI, T mac, Jamal Crawford, Nick van ex el, jr smith, Brandon Jennings, etc…. Were all categorized as “hoopers” because of one side of the ball

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Staks definition makes more sense

[@TheKingJackson11]

When I got to college my coach told me “We not hooping no more we playing BASKETBALL”

[@jonesboi804]

Facts, folks always mentioned ballers as someone of a Lebron style of play, dominate both ends in structured/organized *basketball* … Kawhi leans more as a baller, Westbrook more a hooper imo

[@noahjames1985]

yeah this is what I always thought a Hooper meant. It's someone decent that always gets picked first at the gym, but they aren't skilled enough to be on a D1 scholarship.

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@jonesboi804Actually Lebron stopped that after Miami

[@trevondavis5029]

Yes yes yes

[@trevondavis5029]

What you hoop dreams 👀

[@whypascal]

Imma just be honest I never heard a person say someone was hooping cause of their defense so idk where that hooper means both sides of the ball came from. Hooping has always been an basketball term for how good you are on offense

[@tinobrown1780]

This might be the dumbest conversation I’ve ever listened to online lol.

[@gedeontube]

You couldn’t have said it better.

[@brickywatters4571]

😭 i was thinkin that like 2 minutes in but couldnt stop listening lol

[@UndefeatedCJ]

@@brickywatters4571 same 😂😂😂

[@franciskayoka6382]

Facts

[@kennethbryant9050]

They really mean BALLERS......not HOOPERS....

[@colinnixon7739]

That's really old term 😂

[@sirhoopalot1125]

Gil didn’t play defense

[@hesohit]

@@sirhoopalot1125 no pg were scorer like that except maybe 3, and he had larry hughes to guard the best guard every night. so vs laker gil guard fisher, larry guard kobe, vs 76er gil guard eric snow, larry guard AI

[@sirhoopalot1125]

@@hesohit because he didn’t have defense. He was the point and couldn’t guard the point

[@charlesharris9420]

Aye this lil underdog fantasy whistle be fucking me up 😭😭😭

[@drinkmorewater2798]

McCants doesn't even know what he's arguing he just wants to argue 💀

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

No you just don't understand

[@MrAugustBlack]

I understand exactly what he's saying. Honestly.

[@ParamoreFAV3]

@@MrAugustBlackhe’s not arguing anything.

[@markhouston501]

Crazy part is he wins a lot of these debates. Gil just change it to a semantics argument instead of arguing the point. The terms don’t matter for the sake of this argument cause he actually laid out the criteria so there’s no reason why they’re arguing semantics instead of the ultimate point which is Stack is trying to say pure scorers are historically overrated in his opinion.

[@tito9560]

@@markhouston501bruh no McCants argues a lot with his emotions. He is a rebel without a reason. He literally said my stances don’t change after changing his definition of hooper to what stak detention.

[@JaylynJBird22]

The 2 dudes sitting there calling themselves hoopers in one breath and in there other say a hoopers play DEFENSE and neither one of them could ever lock up anybody at their position is crazy…

[@marcusfrm6263]

Especially Brandon Jennings wth

[@Margellan]

😂

[@jimmiethomas7857]

Good defensive can hide a bad defender like the warriors did steph it's simple Gil just like acting stupid 😂

[@tylersuggs11]

@@jimmiethomas7857what are you even talking about

[@SGKevo214]

@@tylersuggs11Some bullshit per usual

[@DerekChain]

37:10 Rashad just killed his own argument as usual 😂😂 McContradiction

[@germainwithag7142]

Hoopers are people who put the ball in the hoop !!!! That’s it.

[@jayretro7]

I agree with the old term Hooper is a guy who ready at anytime to play any where any fit hoop shorts under the jeans Any shoes any park Plays to plays for the love of the game But doesn’t necessarily play organized team basketball I dog with no lease or understanding of strategy ball

[@IVT-only]

A hooper is someone that has played basketball regardless of the weather. Rain, sleet or snow, we gotta get those reps in.

[@blinblinthing]

Man, I am tired of all these terms to try give all players props. The criteria always changes depending on someone's mood to they can stack someone they prefer higher.

[@el84oro]

@@blinblinthing THANK YOU. all these terms are created by players to give other players who have won nothing or aren't great props.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

You have to be good to be a hooper. You can’t just play in various weather conditions. Why would you need to play in snow anyway? Go inside.

[@stephonhopkins4569]

@@el84orono tf it has not lol it was never used to give anyone credit to be considered “great” wtf are you talking about lol

[@IVT-only]

@@stephonhopkins4569 I take it you’ve never loved the game of basketball so much, that you had to play every single day. When you couldn’t, it felt like your heart was ripped out. The love of the game is missing. There, I cut your food for you baby boy.

[@isaiahbailey5103]

You know mccants is wrong when Josiah has to hop in 😂😂😂

[@JTMsound]

Funny cause Josiah been quiet as hell for 90% of this vid....

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Josiah also laughed when Gil said "I was third in steals"😅

[@dttmtae]

hoopers get buckets, rain, sleet or snow, a basketball player incorporates iq, plays offense and defense, set screens, etc

[@glenardensfinest]

I agree with STAK! Here in DC area ***HOOPERS = Played BOTH SIDES of the ball! 😂😂Gil thinks Yelling makes his point more valid! No Bro!! I agree Jennings and McCants Paul Pierce was straping up during Celtics Big 3 days AND Paul was getting the Ball in Crunch time. (Step Back Jumper at the Foul Line Elbow) 😂💯💯💪🏾💪🏾

[@ladariusparker7248]

Nah that's dumb asl Hoopers always been offense first can go anywhere and give anybody buckets

[@Charvez]

Smfh so they didn't even really listen to what Stack said... he gave several qualifiers to what he calls a hooper and Gil acting like he don't understand or didn't hear what he said

[@brightkicks_]

Gil was triggered because he knows he’s bragged about never playing D 😂

[@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847]

EXACTLY!😉

[@mexia23]

and then tried to lie that he says that proudly that he didn't play defense . i'm glad Brandon call him out

[@tylersuggs11]

He said plenty of times he just like to say it he used to be be great at defense but No supermax player is Locking down on defense that’s what the other players are for

[@abukhalil1278]

Factsssss getting loud and almost starting crying 😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@TheDarrinJay]

He also said he never passed the ball but he averaged 5 assists a game his career

[@harissonbond7499]

I thought a Hooper is just an individual that plays basketball regularly. The problem is everyone has their own definition of it.

[@RBTrell]

Exactly bro! How tf can u be a scorer but not a hooper if it’s really the same sht 😂

[@jalinsimmons5203]

Gilbert Arenas said " I don't like to play defense." He said he doesn't like play defense however he played defense tho

[@Supreme36074]

& just knew that he wasn’t a stopper on that end , doesn’t mean you don’t play defense as you said .

[@jalinsimmons5203]

@Supreme36074 playing defense isn't the same as being affective on defense. As long as I'm putting in the effort of playing defense it still counts tho

[@JerichoCastille]

He has said that he didn't care about defense.

[@blakelainus589]

A hooper to me is just someone who’s sole purpose is to go get buckets like a Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Jordan Poole. Then a basketball player would be someone with high iq that can play in a structured system like Lebron, Steph

[@mrhim265]

Exactly, JC & Lou will could avg just as much as Steph with a similar team, but Steph will always contribute more to winning basketball bc his iq goes beyond buckets. JC might have a better chance than Lou just bc he does have high IQ but also his natural instinct is still to get a bucket, not necessarily all the other nuance of the game. From my understanding of what I’ve heard him say

[@cartermitchell5845]

If you're not playing both ends of the floor, you're really not hooping so you can't be a hooper....

[@taylormadealpha]

This debate was crazy; changed what hooper means in real time. I couldn't believe my ears. When someone says "I'm a real hooper" or "do you hoop for real" always meant ball players. A basketball player that plays hard on both ends is a hooper.

[@Myke4445]

lol facts

[@shock2429]

Mc Cants: You got to ask him. I don’t know. I’m just supporting what he saying smh 😂 Make it make sense. 😂

[@meaux-kneaux]

Naw. A hooper is an unstoppable scorer. When someone says they can hoop just means they can play basketball. If someone asks if you want to hoop, it just means they just want to play basketball. It has nothing to do with anything else other than being able to be unstoppable while putting the ball in the basket! Jordan is a hooper, so is Lou Williams! So is Jamal Crawford! So is Kobe!

[@writersblock5258]

It's not a clear answer for what a hoopers definition is the correct answer

[@stephonhopkins4569]

That has never been the definition of hooper lol hoopers were always scorers who get buckets or a solid player that is and will play any and everywhere. Players like kd, Demar, Kobe, melo and most 6th man scorer types have always been considered hoopers not cuz they play both sides of the ball

[@richardwilliamswilliams7133]

The silence at the end told the whole story 😂💯

[@moco3476]

Don’t forget Clark scored 28 and 11 against Lexie

[@peaceofmind2073]

Lexie a champion, don't forget

[@kxngPLAYS]

Can’t forget that 28

[@marcdee7154]

I'm a Lexie fan. champion!!!!

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

This might be the worst stat-line to make this kind of joke.

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@leastselfawarepotassiumdawg what? 28 and 11 is crazyy

[@thebigfactspodcast]

Gil is exactly right the And 1 dude was the hooper POINT BLANK

[@Looneytune45]

Basketball players:system Hoopers:free play

[@sixthorder]

When has a player ever led his team in points, rebounds, assists, minutes and plus minus through a whole playoff run and people still question if he's the best player on his team? People just talk crazy on Tatum unprovoked

[@newbeginning8095]

Facts, then jump back in his jock when the mainstream media says something, smdh…

[@HitSquadMusic1o3]

Imma dark skinned nigga and i can tell u its the colorism. They make it seem like they like tatum cuz he fairer skinned. NO HES JUSS BETTER !! Plus he went to Duke 😂😂😂😂 #BlueDevils

[@bboyzhoop8455]

Lebron??

[@stephonhopkins4569]

@@bboyzhoop8455nobody has questioned if Lebron was the best player on his team lol why did you say lebron lol

[@sixthorder]

​@@bboyzhoop8455 when has anyone ever questioned Lebron was the best player on his team during his prime?

[@wesleyvaux5590]

Gil , how dare they question you ! On the other hand, we do live in the Era where words and meanings change every day! ….Word!

[@blinblinthing]

I've had it with all these terms.

[@hooverdadon6467]

Gilbert just cooked Stak and Rashad

[@kjjr3270]

Like always

[@DJ9905]

Brandon be setting up McCants every time, lol

[@horusallegory]

Hoopers: Michael Jordan Allen Iverson Kobe Bryant Joe Dumars Gary Payton Dwayne Wade Scorers: Reggie Miller Ray Allen Chris Mullins Danny Ainge Allen Houston It's not hard 🫡

[@ggffgg100]

A hooper to me is someone who can play basketball at a high level consistently. Doesn’t matter if they play organized ball or not

[@Iappreciateyourtime]

Mccants just shows up to take L's and give us dummies hope that one day we can also make bread off of being stupid.

[@Trapabee]

Gil had one good game against Kobe. In 16 games. The game where Gil scored 60 Kobe had 45. Smh . In 16 games Kobe averaged more points, rebounds, assist, steals, and blocks. Hilarious

[@Supreme36074]

No one not even Gil claimed he was on Kobe’s level but he did what he did .

[@BigJa15]

He had more than one good game against Kobe

[@FireAngelChris]

@@BigJa15Not to mention the 60 point game was loud

[@jpwessgate4859]

He only averaged 24 points on 40 percent from the field against Kobe 😂...where did this 36 come from?

[@burberryboyboog8072]

@@jpwessgate4859 he probably talkin bout before he got injured

[@arttusimonen6780]

Don't forget that Lebron averaged 37 PPG against McCants and McCants averaged 6,4 PPG against Lebron

[@biggfacts6083]

Lexi agrees with whatever Gil is saying. She loves to be on his side

[@dalinkwent24]

Mcant has a lot of energy for someone who is neither a hooper or scorer lol smh

[@igriffith30921]

18:57 - Jamal Crawford is a hooper 19:17 - Jamal Crawford is not a hooper Cmon McCants 🤦‍♂️

[@robfoster8356]

​@@igriffith30921 comprehension issue my friend. Go back and look at the the video 17:50-22:05...."take a look, it's in a book..." 😂

[@igriffith30921]

I had to watch the video to get that point in the video. McCants said Jamal Crawford was what they called a hooper before Stak’s definition. Then McCants adapted Stak’s definition (21:25) thus saying Jamal is not hooper. I believe the issue is you’re just a fan of the game and not a real athlete or ball player to really comprehend what they were debating. Good luck with life tho bro.

[@robfoster8356]

@igriffith30921 I get it, sometimes we try to save face & say something (usually an insult) with the attempt to divert from a bad talking point we brought up ourselves. Rarely works out that way, but it will at least make us feel better in the moment.

[@igriffith30921]

Or someone sounding like a novice with a questionable response to a tangible yet contradictory talking point made in the video that was simply pointed out. No diverting, we can keep going. And that wasn’t an insult; it’s just easy to spot the difference between a fan and a baller. It’s ok to be fan but just don’t be swayed so easily like McCants at the first thing that’s sounds good. Good luck with life bro, be blessed. 🙏

[@robfoster8356]

@igriffith30921 😂.....my guy has a keen eye to spot fans and ballers lol. But since you're willing to go now, then what was Stak's main point about his hooper & scorer take?

[@jaycraft74]

IF McCants and Stak had a podcast it would be called (OUT OF THE LEAGUE HATTING DUMMIES) 😂😂😂

[@GeeCruz-rb3wt]

Mccants and stak is what the people need..real hoopers..no trolls..no gil..no lexi

[@tylersuggs11]

@@GeeCruz-rb3wt no real hoopers don’t need that bs keep that shit on the other platforms

[@thaspydaman21]

Stak has a 14 year career what are you talking about.

[@younglove3362]

If you think McCants talk is legit then you're as delusional as he is. 🙄

[@SolomonDavis-ll1rd]

They changed the definition of what a hooper is. I agree with Gil

[@colinnixon7739]

Stak did. To make it fit himself.

[@Juststrictly]

Who has Brandon Jennings or Rashad McCants ever stopped in their life?

[@tylersuggs11]

Themselves 😅🤣🤣

[@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847]

SIMPLE:::HOOPERS can SCORE ELITE & DEFEND ELITE.. SCORERS can SCORE ELITE... POINT, BLANK, PERIOD!!!..smh..

[@btoehonest333]

THANK YOU!!!!!

[@tylersuggs11]

@@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847 a hooper is For a example KD loves hoop don’t care for this media shit and practice his jump shots in the club a hooper is a scorer too they all under the same category

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Yup,i like Staks definition😅

[@louielou6294]

Scorers -Gilbert -A.I -Trey Young - James Harden -Steph Curry -Mello -KD Hoopers -MJ -Kobe -Bron -Kwai -Wemby -Joel Embid Just a few examples according to Stak.

[@blackesttv1585]

Gil tryna manipulate the conversation cus he kno Stack is right 😂😂😂

[@dustintheruler7111]

Don’t put wemby in anything yet hasn’t done enough

[@boss-eq6pn]

Kd play d

[@johnpopi2984]

Maccants is either slow or scary or both cuz it’s like he don’t wanna speak on stak but will speak on other folks

[@FireAngelChris]

Both

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

He agrees with him tf y'all talking about.

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

Its a different level stupid on the internet

[@JTMsound]

The issue is not the definition, its that mccants is saying some guys are not hoopers when they do fit stack definition

[@josephh4539]

Since 2003, these are the guys that earned hoopers status is a Scorer and all defense: Duncan KOBE Wade Garnett Lebron Jimmy Buckets PG13 The Claw GIANNIS JOEL No one else comes close. These are the hoopers. Before 2002, its Air Jordan, Kareem, Akeem , Gary Payton and Scottie. These are the hoopers, Most All defense selected with scoring.

[@n.Lenice]

6:23 Gil, HAS stated IN JEST (joking) that he was more concerned with scoring than anything else, he won't concerned with defense, he was a self-proclaimed ballhog, that 1-4 flat joke, etc.,. But stats don't lie, especially those of the players he played with and against. HERE is where when you play the jokester so often people (Brandon in this conversation) truly can't tell the difference and take you literal or don't take you (your perspective, your true intelligence) at all (seriously) - I think that's a shame and he's selling himself short, so in affect, a lot of other people do as well. All the very good points and arguments he makes sometimes get lost within the jokes and trolling.

[@tylersuggs11]

@@n.Lenice there’s no such things as a ball hog in the NBA They pay the top guy to take all the shots that’s their job second there are plenty of episodes where Gil also explains he didn’t have to play defense because Point Guards wasn’t Score first Guards, BJ and Rashad know that Stack was Directly speaking about Gil and they tried to be shady about the shit BJ knows for a fact this Information and he knows Gil’s understand defense

[@n.Lenice]

@@tylersuggs11 You have your opinion and I stand by mine.

[@robfoster8356]

But Gil didn't play defense 😂😂😂. If you watched him play....you would know that as clear as day. And whenever Gil talks about defense he tries to undermine its importance. And tbh, Gil didn't regularly compete on the defensive end (something Stak said in his video). There's a reason Gil was so tight in the video 😂

[@ONLYONEKB]

Saying Kyrie is not a hooper is just asinine

[@williepaul9785]

How they not sayin he not great at wat he does but hoopers dnt take plays off ky my favorite player in the nba but he a great scorer

[@peopleschamp43]

Kyrie a scorer

[@dwayneturner9395]

​@@peopleschamp43and to have ALL That variety of finishes (LEFT or right handed), handles, efficient outside shot, playmaking, etc You HAVE to be a hooper. That's a lot of time put in. Kyrie is a hooper. This is fkn silly. Wtf

[@peopleschamp43]

@@dwayneturner9395 but is kyrie a lock down defender ? It's both sides of the ball !

[@truegrizzlesfan2292]

Kyrie is a specialist a scorer. Don't make anyone better. Do you remember what happened with Boston. No leadership either

[@JohnnyFutbol4]

To me, Mike Beasley and Jr Smith are the perfect example of a Hooper and Lebron and Pippen are basketball players.

[@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847]

EXCEPTION---The LATTER 2 had to DEVELOP their DAWG; while one maintained it; and the OTHER'S FADED away...😉

[@isaiahthomas4444]

Coming up with a new term to hate on Tatum is NASTY WORK BJ!!!

[@elgreatest7202]

I’m not gon lie Gil and Lexie don’t be making sense ; she just said steals don’t mean you play defense. Gil say how am I not a defender I was third in steals ? And she just quiet lmaoo cmon ya

[@vashaundavids4802]

Stat Man Stat Man. Yea that's me!!! Larry Cemetery ⚰️😂😂😂😂

[@CultureChangers]

What Gil is describing is a streetballer not a hooper

[@Nathaniel-Sr]

Actually Gil is way off on a bunch of shit, but stats don't lie bro and he proved it. He's just saying to mcants who's the show's version of cant-get-right! 🤷😂😂

[@RoshanShamurailatpam]

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[@AlisaBenincasa]

I'm inspired. Please spill some sugar about the bi-weekly stuff you mentioned.

[@RoshanShamurailatpam]

I raised 75k and Christina Ann Tucker is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Christina A. Tucker is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!!

[@IrenNeufville-i9e]

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[@QuintStarling]

How can someone get connection to that woman y'all speaking bout !!?

[@IrenNeufville-i9e]

@@QuintStarling There is her line!!!! under this comment!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔁 Put the digits together.

[@brandonpennington8181]

The difference between all the titles is what each player PRIDES themselves on. Which part of the ball they actually focus n give they all on

[@whitneymitchellcside1662]

It's also about Knowing Basketball Plays or not is actually the difference between hooper and basketball players

[@FoetTV]

Gil TRIPPIN on this one.. there’s a clear difference between a hooper & and a basketball player. Anyone can play basketball..but err body can’t hoop

[@thekingsplacegospeldjc4847]

EXACTLY..

[@mevincool]

Nigga stop this nonsense ain’t nobody uses being a basketball player in that sense when referring it to a hooper.

[@vwilickers8668]

14:56 bro right here is why i can’t stand McCant bro. He sound so stupid 🤬🤬🤬

[@ROM0628]

KD is a hooper… for example

[@codename96]

You cannot agree when its beneficial and MOVE THE GOAL POST when it dose align with their argument but YOU dont want it to be

[@willievillock7008]

He was talking about gill, and he knows that..

[@bevonkeys]

A Hooper was higher than just the term of being a basketball player 🏄🏾‍♂️

[@ggggg8634]

Don’t forget Caitlin Clark dropped 20 and 6 against Lexie

[@dakaraijames101]

Don’t forget Lexie has a condition and she still gets out there and hoop. Caitlin is good, but that 20 is invalid

[@fireforcemark]

Don’t forget Lexie is a champ

[@FastlaneBulls]

I love CC! Cynthia Cooper 💕🏀

[@MasterSlime03]

@@dakaraijames101 yes it is

[@kjjr3270]

Don't forget Caitlyn keeps it hairy

[@mikeman2137]

Gil butt hurt that the shoe fits and tryna play dumb.. Jack was talking about him and he knows it😂😂😂

[@natothegreat3981]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@marquisgorham6207]

I don't know where they from but a Hooper is when you just say I'm a Hooper that means you're not a play basketball

[@taylormadealpha]

Klay Thompson just said Victor Wembanyama is what the new hooper is supposed to look like. Knowing defense is a large part of his game, he wasn't saying he's just a scorer.

[@Idaho_dom]

Kobe was there every year Gil played the lakers and he averaged 24.2 pts… not 36 😂

[@brandonbrooks859]

24 during the HARDEST defensive era lets be honest here Gil was handing Kobe platters lol doesn't discredit mamba's defense

[@davidriley6843]

It’s not hard to understand what Stak is saying. You can play word games all day but a real hooper is a competitor and when you compete you play both sides

[@querlinestsurin]

Yeah but he made a definition for what its not

[@querlinestsurin]

He made it up

[@hardbodytraining100]

A player who can get 30 but allows 30points aint shit. A player who can get 15 but shutdowns the best scorer is a million time more valuable.

[@randy_crna]

Great offense beats great defense

[@marekboldin4386]

@@randy_crnakawhi Leonard better then kd defense and offense beats jus offense

[@ContextPerspective]

Growing up I thought a hooper was a person that love to play basketball ANYWHERE (outside or gym) and was good at it. Most hoopers were born learning how to play outside

[@teronward7570]

Back in the day we said man that dude can hoop, A hooper is winner. A scorer is happy if he lose and scored 30.

[@lg6400]

THIS!!!