The NEMO Arms Mongoose - Could be the Coolest PCC At SHOT Show 2024

[@angelpagan7306]

For the low low price of $8k and your first born child 😂😂

[@rougecampos317]

Nah for real?

[@Rob-hl5gx]

2k

[@boss350z5]

I dig the move to scorpion mags in these PCCs this year.

[@yournotthatguypal9749]

Why when Glock mags are better cheaper and have way more options ?

[@Lot_Lizard2024]

Bc glock mags make an ugly ass gun, plus CZ scorpion 30 round mags can be had for can be found for 3 to4 dollars cheaper than 30 round glock mags and Magpuls can be bought as low as 17$ and did I mention looks a 1000 time better than a glock mag

[@nunya5616]

Because glock mags in a PCC will ALWAYS look like hot ass@@yournotthatguypal9749

[@dragonsofthunder]

​@@yournotthatguypal9749facts

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

@@yournotthatguypal9749 Magpul makes CZ 35 rounders

[@rayadomachin3709]

Better wait for the palmetto state mp7

[@daniel-eo3rz]

NEMO needs to do better marketing if they are ever going to make it to the big time

[@moisley1657]

Love the way its built, and that charging handle is a pretty neat

[@yockhunter]

Nemo Arms means it’s gonna be 3k plus!

[@blinkimgone04]

1950 msrp street about 1800 - stay tuned

[@sjoracer2934]

@@blinkimgone04actually might buy one at that price, sick!

[@gangsta19x]

@@sjoracer2934same. I really want the SMG 45 by LWRC but they want too much money for it.

[@dragonsofthunder]

​@sjoracer2934 expensive still! Might as well get another DD or BCM 5.56

[@yockhunter]

@@gangsta19x the reciprocating barrel really throws me off about it

[@GSX.YYY_]

Mom? Can we have Stribog? The stribog at home:

[@tadleblanc3761]

That would be a sweet rig if it was in 10mm

[@UltimateEnd0]

Every gun full-sized steel pistol and PCC should have a 10mm variant!

[@TT-ch2pz]

Typical Nemo gun, cool but ridiculously expensive.

[@TheFishE77Official]

​@@PaladinSalt Bro it's in the damn title, NEMO is the name of the brand, how could you miss that...

[@ejcejc4113]

$1950

[@mjk4378]

Looks like a b&t APC9K with ar hand guard

[@stevenbobbybills]

Most modern PCCs and SMGs look like this, to be honest, since they're all slowly converging on the same ergonomic layout and controls.

[@nmtay]

This is something nobody else has shown and I'm always intereted in a new large-platform pistol/9mm PCC. I'd buy one.

[@OfficialFedHater]

Competing with the Stribog roller delayed, probably at a higher price point.

[@LangstonDev]

But also competing with the MCX at a lower price point.

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

It's going to be a market flop due to price point and the fact that the barrel moves and it doesn't need to. Much like everything evolving into crabs over time, so too, will all SMG type weapons eventually be an MP5

[@SuppressedNation]

That’s a beautiful looking setup

[@ExpensiveKoala]

I like the aesthetics of it

[@TheDoorspook11c]

Why do arms manufacturers know we sbr stuff but never seem to make stuff we don't have to form to look cool. Built in suppressors, 14.5 barrels, anything but that long bare barrel from the sbr ready Aksu74's!

[@LeandroTagudin]

Please make a 16” barrel version

[@1308SPAZZ]

Cz & Canik should collaborate on a project called lights out pistols and pcc’s that send all overpriced arms running

[@Thegreendingler]

Mp5 at home:

[@ericpettyfishing]

Looks pretty cool.

[@yegr4367]

I almost really like this one, but there need to be more PCCs with magazine in the grip. If the magazine was in the grip this would be a favourite. Need to be more that aren't just direct blowback too.

[@NotoriousMastaG]

lol no. Magazine in the grip is some trash looking junk. Only and I mean ONLY a mp7 can pull off that look. I’m talking strictly aesthetics btw. Magazine in the grip PCCs just scream micro roni .. looks cheap. I guess let’s hope PSA makes the mp7 happen

[@yegr4367]

@@NotoriousMastaG I don't care about aesthetics, I'm talking about the function of it. Magazine in the grip is better balanced, more compact, and more intuitive to aim. A PCC is supposed to be lightweight and easy to handle, and making it mag in grip makes it much easier to use one handed or in a small space.

[@user-cd9bo7yu5m]

Love PCCs and my $500 Extar has been a blast for last couple years. This looks great, but not for $2k naked.

[@LangstonDev]

Except that it's less than an MCX or HK MP5 and roughly in line with some of the licensed MP5 clones. People keep comparing this to basic blowback gun prices but it's a delayed blowback system which is more expensive to make.

[@calebguillory8284]

..... I'm listening.

[@User-tuffenuff]

Nice setup

[@phil5569]

Very nice looking gun, but LWRC tried that reciprocating barrel, and it was a disaster for accuracy. I’m a bit skeptical.

[@BigChiefTushkalusa]

You're skeptical of Nemo arms? 😂😂😂

[@phil5569]

If a major player like LWRC couldn’t make their .45 cal PCC be reasonably accurate with a reciprocating barrel, not sure what Nemo could do better… but who knows. I’m skeptical. It’s not a hard “no”. A few good reviews of the system would immediately change my opinion.

[@AJ-xc4nm]

Better than the ddpcc

[@J4Y84]

Nice.. but I Thought that a Mongoose was going to be a S&W 629 ?? Revolver 🔫 ?? 😄😄

[@lsmullin62]

That's cool

[@kilpeoplebreaksht]

Dope plus takes scorp mags not bad 6/10

[@louisle4886]

it looks cool. idk if id like scorp mags though.

[@L0ck0ut1]

Didn’t someone else have a very similar concept cost a few grand and not be able to hit the side of a barn if you were touching it

[@UltimateEnd0]

Yes SMG45 1.0 would frequently keyhole which almost destroyed LWRC.

[@tylerfrogley1227]

Is this going to be the LWRC smg45 2.0? Hahaha

[@Phantom8589]

Right... I wanted one so bad until I shot it and had it shoot a 6 moa shift... Grandthumb did video on it too and had the same experience... 6 moa shift for $2400 was a hard pass 😂

[@tylerfrogley1227]

@@Phantom8589 yup, not sure the browning moving barrel whatever is g2g for subguns but this definitely reminded me of that

[@Moises-om2fv]

Comes with can? If so how much $

[@user-hz5rk5vy1t]

Ruger PC Charger for $600 in 2020 for the win

[@rifolas]

We found em bois

[@pickle_muffins]

So it's a modified Glock with an AR lower. 👍

[@judge831]

I'd definitely pay $1500 for this but no more

[@rickypickles2219]

not a big fan of PCCs but id buy this

[@VZBudgetBuildz]

Remember Guys, An AKV from PSA is only 1k and does legal brrrrrrttttss with a decent trigger. 😅 Also take scorpion mags, do with that what you will 👐🏻

[@ryanh6081]

Whooteedoo. Another 9mm w an insane price

[@mr.lovell3645]

What is it made from? It looks like it has reinforced areas like where a polymer material would require...

[@honzabalak3462]

It's funny how more brands are now using the original Scorpion Evo mags except... ...the new Scorpion from CZ isn't anymore. Not without modification to the mags anyways. What were they thinking?

[@Ryan-kl5pt]

And on this episode of You're broke:

[@user-jw2bv4ux2m]

Buy it

[@michaelpeters6659]

What are the chances this ends up in Canada?

[@FUBBA]

the more I look at it, the more I see just another AR but takes scorpion evo mags.

[@darrelladon3619]

I'll take two please

[@rasaanmanning7648]

Looks like they coming for the b&t apc crowd....😅

[@ianloughney9570]

What does this bring to the table that makes it better than a Scorpion Evo, AR-9 or SP-5? (All of which will probably cost less and have better aftermarket support)

[@LowProOperator]

Imagine spending nearly $2000 for a base model 9 mm pistol lol That’s what all of these new companies are doing these days. Everyone has gone off the rails with these crazy 9 mm carb beans. It started off as using a compatible system that’s cheaper to use. Something similar to our fighting rifle then it turned into something fun and now it’s just turned into something ridiculous. All the technology we have, and we have found ourselves going back to a tilt barrel action in a carbine

[@gregoryfilin8040]

With all due respect, I'm sure you can understand the cost in developing something new. These are new concepts and slight changes. PCC's have been an underdeveloped thing for decades, and them Scorpion Evo 3 came out. And now everyone is doing exactly as you mentioned, finding a middle ground between a fighting rifle and a pistol. I'm not defending the company, I just think your point screams that you're a bit out of touch. A modern fighting rifle is about $3600. A good PCC is $1500. A good pistol is $700. Good modern weapons don't come cheap and never have.

[@LowProOperator]

@gregoryfilin8040 and I’m not saying this to offend or be a jerk but where did you get that $3600 price point for a modern fighting rifle?

[@LowProOperator]

@gregoryfilin8040 I think companies like this have made people like me. Look out of touch, but I don’t think I am. I’ll explain why. I am still building really cool AR nines today for five and $600 with really good quality parts. I know you’re always gonna spend more for a complete build, but not that much more. $1000 is pushing it but I’d be willing to spend that on a good high-quality sub gun. Thousand dollars is about what I’d be willing to spend on a good high-quality AR 15 as well. I’ve got some really nice AR’s sitting on the shelf right now, even with a one by six or one by eight LVO still only pushing about $1000 total build cost. I agree the PCC world has been very underwhelming over the past few decades. After the MP five a lot of companies just stuck with roller delayed or direct blowback. But to be fair if you can shoot rifles all day I personally think there’s no need to have any other style of operating system for a 9 mm or even 45 ACP type weapon. Direct blowback or roller delayed works great. Even with nice Sigg or vortex scope set ups I don’t have a single rifle on my shelf costing over $1200. I would just like to know personally where you get your figures from. Did you forget about the Palmetto State Armory full-size dagger? It’s a Glock 19 x clone for around $300. One all the time and it has ran flawless and has better build quality than most of my Glocks. I’m not bashing you or calling you out. I’m genuinely curious.

[@gregoryfilin8040]

@@LowProOperator That's the price of the rifle, optic, device, and all relevant parts to get into the configuration one would see on the Frontline. If you adjust backwards for inflation, even as far back as the 1800's.

[@LowProOperator]

@gregoryfilin8040 so if you were to compare a standard military rifle of today against any rifle in my arsenal, I would dare say that anyone of my AR 15’s are a3 of the price and twice as reliable. I want to say it’s the army that uses the new Sigg using 277 fury. Now that’s a completely new design from the ground up. It is a very expensive weapon system. But the rest of the military still uses an M4 obaded weapon system.. The system itself is a great system. There’s no doubt about it. But the ones they have are so used and abused. They have been found to be unreliable. Like most militaries in the world. Anyways, I don’t want to get off on a tangent the point is those M4 or M16 variants cost the military thousands of dollars a piece for a base model carbine set up that just needs to be able to hit something. I don’t know if you were in the military or have been in the military, but most of it is logistics. The cost a military pays is an actually because of what the rifle is worth. It’s because the military is funded by taxpayers and there is a huge abundance of money in the system. There’s plenty of companies out here making $1 million on weapons that they should be making a couple hundred thousand on. I’ve done quite a few bills on my channel and I am going to start doing some build breakdowns on some of my heavily abused weapon systems. One of my favorite rifles cost me around $450 and it is mint.

[@reverendlowdown3982]

Not saying the MSRP means its one that may be too expensive for my collection. Especially when it comes to a smaller caliber PCC. I could see maybe 1k on a 9mm PCC but I imagine this will be closer to the 2k-3k mark. No can do😂.

[@Joe-sh2tf]

Make it in 10MM

[@scubasteve9681]

What is that stock?

[@donjohnson5424]

Fucking sweet dude. If it's less than B&T it will be a hit.

[@BudgetBully504]

Nemo... can i get one in 10mm , please 🙏🏽 😢 😭 🙂

[@agentrocco8042]

I wish one of these brands would have interchangeable mag well so I can use all these glock 9 mags I have collected over the years ,im not knocking the scorpion mags .I'm just asking why come we can't have nice things? But this platform is awsome

[@timbango2090]

There should be more calibers made for sbr pcc guns.

[@isaiahjgomez1501]

So it’s basically a standard pistol action like a glock. I’m suprised we don’t see this more often

[@lancenorthcutt7813]

What is the price point??

[@mr.martyr8573]

All for the cheap price of 10 grand. Lol Nemo overcharges for everything they make. Its the "single rich white dude" brand that everyone makes fun of behind your back. Lol

[@CopsBehindUS]

Probably only should shoot fmj's out of this. There's alot going on there, & if you're using a low grain self defense round.. I think the tilted barrel with a can is going to give you problems.. IMO

[@kevinleben579]

So this pcc requires a booster to cycle with suppressor, since the barrel tilts? Interesting pcc, bet the recoil impulse is softer like an mp5.

[@MB-lr5fp]

Might have to be careful putting a heavier silencer on the end of that barrel. Wonder if it would need a booster

[@mattwalters6834]

Neat

[@emmittbishop4783]

I dig it but 2 grand for a PCC is a bit hefty.

[@kevb.943]

Is that tilting or long recoil

[@Slimsensi]

Nemo

[@SA-xf1eb]

Does it need a piston for suppressors?

[@mahaputra6525]

A mongoose

[@Phantom8589]

Hope it holds Zero LWRC tried that moving barrel system and suffered a 6 moa accuracy shift it was BAD! Grandthumb did a review on this and I was why I wouldn't buy 1... I got to fire one myself and had a 6 moa shift as well so It would be great to see some one fix that shift on a moving barrel. It would be cool if someone would port that barrel so you can make it like an MP5SD with standard ammo that I would put money into!

[@Nomb-ip9sq]

Oh boy. Another PCC. They're already dying out. Even me, that wanted an MP5 and Vector now see how outdated they are compared to an SBR or "pistol" in 300BO. Only real advantages of a PCC are cheaper ammo, lighter, more capacity. Well that last one isn't that strong since there's bigger mags, drums, or even a desert tech mag and lower.

[@SigfredBarfod]

I would love this as a full length rifle, it looks super fun

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

If you want to deal with the inevitable reliability issues of a 16"+ short recoil gun, more power to you

[@SigfredBarfod]

@@heavilyarmedhippie75 Yeah you're probably right. A 10 inch barrel would be better. Didn't think about that honestly.

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

@@SigfredBarfod 8" is the high side from what people smarter than me have told me, and at that point why not just go with an MP5 anyway

[@SigfredBarfod]

@@heavilyarmedhippie75 Because an mp5 costs the same as a car. Been looking at some, but they are extremely expensive here in Denmark. The civilian USC45 is more enticing honestly, I don't need to be swat, I just want to have fun.

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

@@SigfredBarfod good quality MP5 clones like a zenith are like $1100 for a low end blem one

[@cercaz]

Hopefully it doesn't got the way of the SMG45

[@MrInsurance8]

looks like the apc9k has comp

[@thewatcher5846]

If they said 45cal or 10mm I would have jumped on it...

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

How much of both calibers do you have on hand, right now. Bet it's less than 300 rounds.

[@thewatcher5846]

@heavilyarmedhippie75 I can always count on someone to comment. I don't own any 45 or 10mm weapons. Henceforth, the reason I won't purchase another PCC in 9mm is because I own enough of them. When I purchase one, then I'll buy 45 or 10mm ammo..

[@heavilyarmedhippie75]

@@thewatcher5846 with all due respect (none) that's the shittiest plan I've ever heard. Don't stake your life on "gonna"

[@JKLauderdale]

There's a similar firearm coming in from the middle east, saw it at IWA. $500 9mm WITH a folding brace and Glock mag compatibility Google: 'Ranger Arms RMG9 PCC', supposed to be coming in the second half of 2024. At that price, I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs vs my EP9

[@LosDoyerss]

Might as well just get a Grand Power Stribog for a fraction of the price.

[@ericpettyfishing]

Those looks so ugly and I heard they had a lot of reliability issues

[@Ed-yq4fe]

@@ericpettyfishing I think a lot of that was the magazines early on, which has been supposedly fixed, but I agree that the Stribog looks like a pile of wet ass.

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

As long as it doesn’t perform as bad as the LWRC SMG45 then it could be a winner!

[@kravstema6287]

So does it not require a neilson device?

[@otterconnor942]

Tilting barrel OR roller delay. It cannot be both

[@thedalillama]

Looks cool. That's gotta be illegal.

[@Slizzysliz53]

That’s no longer considered an SBR.

[@cobysmith3301]

It’s nice but everyone knows the x57 is the coolest and most anticipated at shot show

[@bogusphone8000]

PSA! PSA! 🙌

[@alp2672]

Weapon ooh!😲 price ahh 🙄

[@danielblackburn4626]

They lost me at scorpion mags. Now incompatible with 2nd-art

[@Senator-Wary]

Eh I like the controls but a tilting barrel just why?

[@spankhill7722]

PCCs would be more practical if you got rid of the stock, suppressor, and shortened the mag and barrel 😂 300 blk is king; get a Rattler

[@90whatever]

Yeah…it’s weird how those calibers make the most sense in a pistol format isn’t it? You get all of the low power and limited range of a pistol in a small rifle/carbine format. A lose/lose for probably over $2500.

[@iHeartPeyton101]

Plans for a Glock compatible lower?

[@zaidali651]

Mp5?

[@btappe1286]

I wonder what a roll delayed 5.7, 4.6 would be like. Theyre already light recoiled.

[@bogusphone8000]

PSA enters the chat...

[@BbyBackMosquitoRibs]

Look, it’s cool and all, but is the market really there for these guns when it’s so easy/cheap to produce a 9mm AR pistol, or Glock with a conversion kit?

[@streamylc]

So dumb, lol..... this is exactly why I love PSA so much.

[@joshmajor8662]

We’ll see Lol

[@hellomyride7793]

Trying to be like B&T but falls totally short.

[@TheSkinnyMechanic]

Scorpion mags, because it’s not true that more people own glocks than sigs 🤷🏻‍♂️ I personally think a pcc is dumb. Just use a rifle caliber

[@brittbarlow6111]

What not Glock mags😂

[@williampeterson333]

Price.. 4k

[@Daylin821]

Fascinating how they say PCC’s are trending, but this Shot Show coverage of them was piss poor. I’M A HUGE FAN OF PCC’s. I work in executive protection, we’re always looking at the latest PCC’s that can fit under suit coats. 😔😔😔

[@davidmercer5561]

This looks like a good choice to me. I'd like to have one in 45 but I don't know if they make it. Needs a folding stock though

[@jameshanthorn4327]

@@davidmercer5561it literally has one lol

[@Loganvbills]

In a few years, I actually plan on starting a company that makes equipment for executive protection and more. 😁

[@bower31]

at that point I'd just use a flux chassis or similar

[@Daylin821]

@@bower31 I’m not quite following your line of reasoning, and its correlation to my PCC weapon systems analysis of Shot Show 2024.

[@srtallday3655]

And how many thousands does this cost

[@BloodEagle.]

Man. If only it was 10mm.