The POF Phoenix - A PCC You Have Probably Never Heard of

[@BullsMahunny]

That's cool but they're out of their minds with that price. The difference between an SMG and a PCC is freedom.

[@micahmayfield]

Yeah man it’s steep I agree. I honestly think they’re super close however. Changing the lower to accept different mags and a 90 degree charging handle and this thing would definitely be competing.

[@ellwoodwolf]

Pcc is for wishy washy people who are uncertain about buying more than 1 caliber.

[@alanrodriguez-lx3qv]

​@@micahmayfield 1700$ that is not worth more than a 1100. PSA AKV $1000-1200.

[@murkymallard7706]

It’s about tax time

[@ibeam06]

Debt isn't real if the economy crashes

[@gillieshooter4742]

man... between the price and the proprietary mags, it went from a "man thats cool, wonder what they actually go for" to "oh... nevermind"

[@Dies1r4e]

did the same, just laugh, buy more ammo, keep shooting your scorpion or AK-V, AR-V, or AR-9 of choice

[@DeathSquared7]

Propriety mags? Hahahah if it’s 9 it should take Glock mags (or at least scorpion mag, come on!?)

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

​@126theman Scorpion and Colt mags should be standard. Glock mags suck to load when it's a 32 rounder. Double stack/double feed mags are the only ones I consider for PCCs. HK and MPX mags are good too, but again proprietary and expensive.

[@DeathSquared7]

@@BigfootUnibrowMan like they suck to insert into the magwell or they suck to stack?

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

@@DeathSquared7 Both kinda, but mainly talking about loading rounds.

[@1259bogs]

They should have used the scorpion mags. There very affordable, easy to load, Magpul makes a 35 rounder, and I’ve never had a problem with them

[@THCv3]

Truth. My akv likes the Magpul mags, the OEM akv mags are worse.

[@saltyseatv5904]

​@THCv3 what issues have you had with the PSA AKV mags. I've never had one.

[@jordanragin1615]

They also make drum mags too

[@ExtremeSquared]

It sucks, but at least they aren't CZ handgun engineers, who can't even manage to design same generation same caliber semi-automatic pistols around identical mags. -- a CZ owner.

[@garretthabegger3227]

This is definitely one of the PCCs ever made

[@immts6475]

what was the origional video that was in ahha

[@youtubeisinconsistent9169]

Yes.

[@daveh777]

Okay Kamala.😅

[@ak47catalog]

Expensive. Proprietary magazines. Not sure why it didn't take off....... POF having a hit or miss reputation is the nail in the coffin.

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

???POF-USA makes some of the best Ar15 pattern guns on the market, there designs have been copied by Ruger, Sig, AND PWS to name a few, Their Piston system Ar15 is one of the most Robust and reliable short stroke piston Ar15s ever made. They pioneered sooo many upgrades that have become standard fare in the industry. Granted The new Tombstone lever action I think was a misstep by them, but to say that gives them a hit or miss reputation is pretty laughable. But I guess we are all entitled to our opinions even if they are wrong.

[@andreivaldez2929]

Ok, but their track record on PCCs has been sketchy.

[@NekoWinters]

Meanwhile PSA "hey were putting a hair trigger in thie akv that totally burps with a bouncy ball spacer... let's make it take scorpion magazines so it can have single and double drums.... and we'll sell every variant color/clear of ours for like 10 a pop

[@TT-ch2pz]

POF needs to be strictly an AR manufacturer. Their non-AR offerings suck.

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

@TT-ch2pz You're not exactly wrong.

[@wild_reviews8789]

that Dracula Flow hits HARD

[@quiettime6871]

If you know, you know

[@usernamealreadytaken770]

Since POF is known for their piston driven rifles, I was hoping this would be piston driven like the MPX. Since this is direct blowback, I guess I’ll stick with saving for a MPX.

[@t.dubbya7000]

Have you ever seen the size of the piston in a MPX? it's like the size of quarter and right off the chamber. I just don't think 9mm was meant to be piston driven.

[@jzaeighty]

The MPX is wonderful, certainly worth every penny. The tappet is very tiny but all I can say is that it works. In Lead We Trust leads the charge with meaningful upgrades to the gun especially with the new SD barrel that was released last month.

[@Hawtload]

never seen a 9mm that shoots smoother than the MPX

[@andreivaldez2929]

Maybe, but it's still an improvement over straight blowback.

[@randomguy3034]

​@t.dubbya7000 is pretty comparable to roller delay and has a good track record. Even if your statement is true, SIG did well to make 9mm piston driven.

[@ethomasesq379]

I have the phoenix and I love it. It is one of my favorites

[@highdesertdrew]

POF for whatever reason really likes to price themselves out of a lot of opportunities, when they get something neat, that has a niche application it usually sells well. The rest of the time, the company seems to stay in business but I never actually see anything they produce in the wild.

[@alexscottthompson812]

Positives: - It's shaped kind of like an AR-15 - POF sent Micah a gun Cons: - Stupid expensive - Uses proprietary mags - Can't load by hand - Made proprietary 9mm mags in 2023, who does that? What other weird decision did they make that we don't know about? Hmm, really makes you think - "...reasonably reliable" - Weird charging handle - Rail usage inhibited by weird charging handle - Puts you at risk of being flexed on by Kel Tec Sub-2000 owners

[@Mag_Aoidh]

I LOVED the MP5 Navy model I carried for years. A couple of years ago I built a 9mm AR and although it’s fun, it can’t compare to those memories. If this is anything like that, I applaud you. We got featured in a 1998 issue of guns and weapons for law-enforcement at a high speed range in Mississippi. Consistent 185 yard hits on metal can’t lie.

[@tjpit]

Finally a review on this gun! I’ve been looking at this for awhile.

[@LameMule]

I don't know how I failed to realize you started uploading regularly ~6 months ago but today's discovery has made my night! I got a whole new interesting channel to go through. Comment for the algo gods and a hell yeah from me.

[@kmech3rd]

If you live in a tiny urbanized state with limited opportunities to use full house rifle rounds, a PCC is about the most fun you can realistically have until Hughes is repealed. So definitely count me in the "I love PCCs" camp.

[@jessesando8582]

You need to get together with Honest Outlaw and collectively have a discussion with POF on why their PCCs are sucking so hard. Between this and the tombstone, I'm half wondering if they're using AI to generate these designs...

[@mikecampingforfun5226]

I love POF and my second AR is the Wonder. They are sweet.

[@JB-wd8nf]

Loading the mags a certain way is the biggest reason I don’t even bother shooting 22s most of the time. How the hell do you mess up the charging handle like that?

[@ArmstrongMartin-m2u]

When you begin to touch your heart or let your heart be touched, you begin to discover that it's bottomless.

[@aidenwarnick3882]

the edit music of the old dude who says "dropped a perk in my soda now i'm levitating" has me actually dead bro i love this channel

[@kalenordmeyer7026]

I haven't heard a lot about their PCC's but POF makes some great rifles. Between the Revolution, P414 Edge, and the Renegade Plus there are some great options for some high quality rifles that have been on the market for a few years However, they seem to like to do some "interesting" things to do such as this pcc and a lever-action magfed rifle

[@andreivaldez2929]

It seems like they only have 2 PCCs: this and the Tombstone (lever gun). The Tombstone was subpar and crucified for being unreliable (sin for a lever gun), and this was underwhelming for being such an expensive gun (especially for being a straight blowback).

[@mikeiso8963]

Best intro music and shooting montage. Just watching this on repeat will never finish video.

[@derdampfhammer6652]

Good on you for leaving Mikes channel

[@robertm.4193]

Dracula Flow is my new favorite genre can't wait to see him live under the great pyramids.

[@GHOST-LEPER]

The Dracula Flow in the intro makes me so happy

[@robsorgdrager8477]

Merry Holidays my dude! Hope you and yours have a fantastic holiday season.

[@aysoreferee459]

Using Dracula Flow in the intro was outstanding.

[@Lungorthin666]

Missed you, buddy. Merry Christmas

[@rustyking2728]

The dracula flow audio is the icing on the cake.

[@tsim4139]

I have a direct blowback PCC that takes Glock magazines and I have a HK SP5. My PCC is somewhere in my closet and I haven't seen it in years.

[@joshuataft5541]

I've always wanted a good pcc.i got s original 995.hi point...its better than the new in terms of ergos..and its a tac driver but mags and takedown is not ideal...and modularity is not good without wood screws and duct tape..I put a rail for a light on mine

[@alfredjr2k556]

Merry Christmas Micah Mayfield!

[@johnkunis353]

Those mags are a deal breaker by themselves, not to mention the other inconveniences & price.

[@loch1352]

That Dracula flow go crazy

[@GordonBloomer-c8u]

Work while you have the light. You are responsible for the talent that has been entrusted to you.

[@TheAfterPein]

Came for the review, stayed for the Dracula Flow remix.

[@Jamaniak]

Good to know Micah is a fellow Dracula Flow connoisseur.

[@phantomstrike3310]

POF makes great weapons. I have no experience with the Phoenix, but I will say their Renegade Plus in 300 BO is pretty amazing. I was looking at either the Renegade or the Sugar Weasel, and though I like me some Q products, it was pretty much a no brainer. The Renegade has full ambi controls, 9 position adjustable gas block, dual extraction system, and a sweet BCG. Yes it was about 400 bucks more than the Weasel, but to me it was worth it. The gun runs everything from 220gr to 110gr Vmax, suppressed and unsuppressed. Very high quality. I wish people would give more love to smaller American companies, such as POF and ADM, as they make stupid good guns for the price. I know everyone likes LWRC, Daniel Defense, and Bravo Company. I love me some Bravo Company weapons, as they are made near where I live, and have a couple family members that work there, but I would most definitely take the Renegade Plus over a BCM .300 Blackout any day of the week. To each their own I guess

[@Impossibly-Possible]

Charging handle is there for not digging into things if your pressed against something for cover, a wall the ground what ever.

[@M16AutoSear]

0:48 the lights doing a little dance, check your screws

[@Crangaso]

Bump firing, when the fast finger NES button mashing skills comes to full fruition.

[@otterconnor942]

A blowback PCC that's over 1k is crazy. PSA makes gas operated rifles in rifle calibers for $500, but they have quantity of scale on their side. Which is why I'm lenient on blowback PCC's up to 1k. After 1k I expect something to be doing something in the operating system

[@majesticog9281]

Love the content brotha! Happy to see you’re in Idaho now!

[@chadjones7722]

If they redesign the charging handle and make a cz mag accepting lower if buy one.

[@sovietdoggo930]

Dracula flow beat go wild💀💀

[@fronzduyou2180]

Dude Dracula flow range tribute lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@kordstovall5044]

So glad you did this because no one reviews it

[@sar4x474]

I ran an MP5 with the Navy trigger group. I absolutely loved that weapon. We typically trained to shoot two-round presses on full auto. In comparison to modern PCC’s, I will admit that the MP5 trigger is clunky and heavy.

[@ferrisbueller3557]

WE MAKING IT OUT OF THE EYE OF HORA WITH THIS ONE🅱️🅱️☠️

[@tjpcworks3777]

I think this is a really interesting firearm, but for $2,000 I’d be getting a CMMG Dissent 9mm. Reliable, radial delayed blowback, folding brace/stock, takes Glock mags which I have lots of.

[@Fadaar]

For $2k you're much better off getting a Dissent, MPX, or hell even an MP5 knockoff (non-HK for

[@marshalleng1933]

Maybe they a vid will convince POF to change some designs on that pcc and people will buy it.

[@markeetea]

The Phoenix is tight, but that DRACULA FLOW tho

[@fronzduyou2180]

Dracula flow range tribute lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@vince1376]

Missed connections: 08DEC23, Dallas Airport, terminal C in front of Starbucks at approximately 1837 My friends and I saw you and one friend said "that looks like Micah Mayfield, but dumber" and I laughed, agreed, and after you passed, I called out "Micah" and you turned around confused as fuck like a deer in headlights to see three grown ass men laughing bc they didn't actually think it was you. Hope your flight was on time

[@eugeniomoroyoquijr8638]

That dracula flow in the background 👌🔥

[@quix6253]

Know where I can find that mix?

[@fronzduyou2180]

@@quix6253 not sure but in the meantime enjoy the range flow kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@SuperJuiceman11]

"They needed a stealth soldier, so I slammed my hands face down on the hibachi hot plate at Benny Hanna"

[@loganwillis4871]

Dracula flow goes hard

[@fronzduyou2180]

Range flow even harder lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@happytrailsgaming]

Just here to say my name is Micah too! I love you.

[@petermachine15]

Dude, when i heard “wtf is Obama Care!?, Hey Obama! I don’t care about shit!” I subscribed lol

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

I need this intro song in my life ...

[@TheKlamminator]

MP5s are some of the coolest guns ever

[@Crangaso]

Installing the 90's Flat Trigger makes a big difference in the MP5

[@gliscameria]

dracula rap intro, love it

[@fronzduyou2180]

Range flow kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@fronzduyou2180]

Range flow right here lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/hautloF7rrGZgposi=1N3RaKeGeq2F6szz

[@evanblankenship2689]

Love the Dracula Flow in the background of the intro

[@jarenlynn7592]

You should look at matador arms you can put it on any ar15/ar9mm lower and you can put basically any 9mm mag in it and any ar trigger depending on what lower you put on it

[@scudzuki]

$2k is absurd for a blowback operated 9mm AR. CMMG's Banshee with delayed blowback operation can be had for $1500 and for that price you get some innovation (and save hammer pins). Better yet, I've built 3 uppers with their barrel/BCG/conversion mags that run great on any AR lower I want, even transferrable select fire units. You can build out the upper any way you want.

[@michaeltomsa-musatin]

MIcah!!! Glad to see your channel growing, Brother! Keep the great content coming!

[@samfisherxboxog8925]

Never thought I would see a hipster gun channel yet here we are.

[@texasrex2222]

What was that lo fi banger in the background of the opening montage? That was an awesome intro!

[@josephlewis2276]

Put some never dull car polish on the mags. It’s the polish that comes in the tin with the cotton fibers I use it on all my mags

[@bradenamos810]

the dracula flow at the start is the best intro of all time

[@johnmackey3164]

I've loaded my mag dozens of times. U gotta use the loader.. it's not hard. All my mags load easily. I have around 800 rounds thru mine and it's been flawless.

[@garrettlee6859]

The AK-V and AR-V are great PCC options, FWIW.

[@GatorAaron]

My AR-Vs have been legit. Only drawback I've found was the bolt catch button.

[@Thr33.Sid3z]

7:25 Anyone who owns a Glock knows that it takes technique to load the mags i put my thumb on the round as i push it down with the loading round. The reason the loaded round "nose dives" as you say is bc you aren't keeping it even as its being pushed down by the new round. Its not rocket science. Its also why they give you the loader.

[@andycole5957]

I have two POF's an AR 10 and an AR 15 both piston operated. The AR 10 in 6.5 Creedmore consistently holds about .85 MOA at 1,000 yards! Therefore, I got the AR 15 version for 3 gun competition and it's shooting sub-moa to 800yds! They are pricey, but well worth the money!

[@johnbrown1538]

Doubt.

[@andycole5957]

@@johnbrown1538 Doubt... you can put enough words together for a complete sentence, Troll?

[@Loathe_As_One]

Love the Dracula flow montage at the beginning

[@jamesmix78]

The charging handle Would be fairly easy to make your own 90 degree one. The only thing that’s not a super easy fix would be the mags but I’d have to have my hands on to see if it can be milled to fix that etc. by nice if they included that trigger for the $. But still a nice one to have

[@your_average_enthusiast]

My favorite is still the stribog sp9a3s with the upgraded lower. You get scorpion mags, ar triggers and a roller delayed blow back for significantly less recoil and way better to suppress

[@toynazi]

I have a renegade plus from POF and it is really sweet. But this because of the mags and price I will stick with my custom built PCC

[@Southron-CiK]

-Proprietary mags that don’t load reliably or quickly -charging handle that doesn’t allow for standard rail attachments -1600$+ ~Only benefit is AR controls? Is this some kind of bad joke lol?

[@MoneyShot_CM]

Been waiting for good review on this! Thanks

[@fadedjate7230]

What is the song 0:30?

[@StinkyWheatPenny]

Dracula Flow 👌

[@fadedjate7230]

@StinkyWheatPenny Thanks.

[@joshmccartney6474]

They shit the bed with Proprietary mags, for the same reason the ar trigger was a plus. U could probably swap the springs in said mag for a similar

[@hunterdka]

Any chance we can see a review on the Witt can? Essentially the 9mm one in video on maybe a 556 and 300blk. Could be a versatile can for guys new to suppressor game.

[@TraumaPCT]

My mans threw the Dracula Flow in there- and it slapped.

[@Sir.dead.inside]

Link to the Dracula flow remix pls?

[@gregorypatzelt6964]

If I'm going direct blowback, I'm choosing the noveske space invader. Very expensive, but has every mod you coild ever want and the bomb proof Noveske quality. Just my opinion.

[@g8eddie372]

Finally, something from POF I can match with.

[@user-zs1fr7im6l]

Franklin armory binary trigger will speed it up a little !

[@Coctose]

Couldn't you mount the light on the top? Looks like you have clearance for the optic (sight line).

[@OgreRoku]

I'm enjoying my excellent performing Extar ep9. Not sexy and unobtainable. But super reliable and affordable. Takes standard AR triggergroups, and glockmags. Wish i had a can for it, but i have no desire to pay a tax, for a right!

[@jackviers6915]

Yeah I got my MPX on gun broker for 1600$ I love it better than the mp5 I use to have! And they finally came out with cheaper after market mags for the mpx so there is that...but yeah I like this pcc but you can't do anything with the handguard the furniture is pretty much what you will have to deal with forever...and I noticed you switched out the factory trigger,does it really take AR triggers? Because my mpx doesn't... I wanted to drop in a Franklin binary but I've heard you can't sadly...

[@Sidepea]

Great seeing a buddy on Christmas Eve.

[@BarFlyChef]

One of the guns ever.

[@immts6475]

what was the origional video of that??

[@dillonc7955]

After seeing many reviews including issues with their other posterchild weapon: the Tombstone, they're going to have to really prove themselves selling this PCC at that price point...

[@ethangatzke]

Intro was crazy. It might blow the lungs out of the body or shoot your eye out.

[@cannonfodder8907]

wait micah has a channel?

[@paairmen7458]

That’s the nicest thing that came out this year sweet

[@jessesando8582]

That's a great point about the MP5 trigger- it's (I believe) one of the points people have against the P-90 civvy version is that the trigger still sucks even though it's not an SMG. I would argue the same against the scorpion, even though I have one and love it- you have to lighten the springs, because it's an awful trigger otherwise. If it were an SMG, that would be perfect. But it's not, and they should have made it better for a semi auto platform.

[@thetacticalpuertorican]

It's 2023(almost 2024) if you try hard enough you can find great triggers for the MP5. Timney makes an amazing one.

[@sethh8892]

Hydra mount would fix the light/attachment issues.

[@bryanduchane2371]

Great honest review!

[@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138]

Bro, Dracula flow... good choice

[@Xenoblood23]

Soon "Dan" will start his own guntube channel.