The New 20 Volt Hyper Tough Brushless Impact Wrench | vs. Ryobi and Temu’s JSD Hope Brand

[@dylanwhite6539]

I would like to point out a potential flaw with the reverse torque test. If the HT is torquing down harder in forward than the ryobi, that means it has more work to do removing it. The only truly fair way to compare is to do to at least 3 screws driven in each. And then for removal torque down some nuts with a torque wrench to the same value for all tools.

[@OnusBones]

My wife and I have a lot of the Ryobi One+ tools, and have been happy with all of them. We dabble in a lot of minor homeowner DIY projects, but are not Pros.

[@HVACShopTalk]

I used Ryobi in the HVAC trade for many years and was satisfied.

[@baboozkilla]

Same same.

[@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz]

Somewhat of a mixed bag here. I specifically look for brushless for longevity. The 1+ interior floor vacuum cleaner is junk with inadequate suction. OTOH the 1+ handheld canister is the bomb and great to hit the car quickly and easily. I have a beefier version of this 1/2" impact and it is good. I also have circular, jig, reciprocating, flush cut, ratchet wrench, grease gun, driver/drill, impact drill, etc. Just got their chain saw (requires oil) and am thinking of getting their pole chain saw (requires oil; I don't want the dry one). The leaf blower I got was merely adequate. The previous Lynx (HF) was way better, but was 40V, so not really a fair comparison. The string trimmer was junk. Most of the 1+ tools are good overall and represent a high VALUE for what you get. I would not go the Ryobi route for daily pro work, but even using every week, they are pretty good. I use something everyday. You can blow a lot on batteries, so it is helpful to have lots of tools of the same platform, and you can look for battery sales in dual packages with charger, then you always have some ready to replace and keep going.

[@gregmiracle9560]

Congratulations Joseph 🥳

[@HVACShopTalk]

He actually claimed his prize already! Its awesome. Thanks for watching Greg.

[@Jeffroson78]

​@@HVACShopTalk PSI? What do these numbers equal in torque 😅

[@conanrdk]

Nice review! I'm all in on the Bauer but I enjoy watching comparisons on all the DIYer brands.

[@HVACShopTalk]

I’ve got some great Bauer tools as well, really enjoy them. Thanks for watching.

[@jacklo325]

HT is $64 with 2ah battery, but that 4ah battery is $54.88 last I checked. So it's really $118.88, which often, HD or Lowes may have better deals during the holiday.

[@HVACShopTalk]

Absolutely. The battery is way overpriced. And it’s $69 too! The brushed version is $64.

[@jacklo325]

@@HVACShopTalk You are right! Good catch! And HD always have ryobi 2-pack 4 ah battery for $80 every holiday season, so HT's 1 battery for $55 is just too much.

[@HVACShopTalk]

I bought that Ryobi deal! Agreed

[@A_DIY_VAN_GUY]

I got mine on clearance for $35 I love it

[@dylanwhite6539]

For some reason there’s a 64 version and a 59 version. I would also feel it’s important to note that 4.0 from anyone else will easily cost you $100 if not more. Best you can hope for is $100 for a 2 pack.

[@Tre-v7x]

So the hyper tough i just bought. Is a really good bang for your buck tool.. It fits my needs.. I think its safe to say im going to invest in the 4.0 battery for the hyper tough.. 69$ for the tool a small battery and the charger would be a great biy for someone who owns a high dollar impact just looking for one extra to have laying around for convenience or a spare..

[@will3460]

Something just tells me you made a pre-hold for the Ryobi cuz I saw how all three screws were already starting drilling

[@myHVAClife]

09:01 Looks like JSD is losing HOPE! Look forward to DOLLAR GENERALS future line of power tools!

[@HVACShopTalk]

JSD is hopeless for sure. I look forward to pitting Dollar General tools versus Family Dollar.

[@nicolemccormack4926]

How does it compare to the 12v torque wrench?

[@RANDOMNATION907]

Does that Makita battery work on the Hyper Tough? I can't seem to get a straight answer from other reviewers.

[@HVACShopTalk]

It does not on Hyper Tough, it does on the JSD Hope.

[@RANDOMNATION907]

@@HVACShopTalk Thank You ! . . . finally a straight answer. Not quite the answer I was hoping for but, oh well. You just got a new sub. Greetings from Alaska.

[@thelifeofafox]

I'm liking my 1/2 brushless HT wrench, upgrading to a 3/4 later for the better performance

[@dylanwhite6539]

Worth noting that the brushless version is now $59. For some reason the brushed version is still 64. Call the 4.0 battery 55 and you’re looking at $114. I’d say even if you consider the 4.0 mandatory it’s still a better deal than the ryobi. If you’re starting from scratch the ryobi is $139, plus batteries. At the current pricing, the cheapest way to get a 4.0 is to buy the starter pack that also gives you 2.0 and a free basic tool for $99. So in total $238. Or you can get a brushed impact for like $190. Granted at this time you are getting two tools for $238, but still either way you slice it that’s just not competitive with the HT. Of the comparable tools with the battery pack promo, the most expensive in the HT line is the fan, so for fairness sake we’ll add that in at 75 and go ahead and add the 20v 2a fast charger which matches the ryobi standard charger. So in total from both brand we have a Fan, 1/2in brushless impact, and battery set with one fast charger. The HT combo totals 208. 59 impact, 75 fan, 20 fast charger, and 55 4.0 battery. Now that’s $30 cheaper than the ryobi, but it gets better. Both tools come with slow chargers and 2.0 batteries. So the HT for 30 less gives you an extra battery and 2 chargers. Now they are slow chargers, but you get the convenience of being able to plug in all 3 batteries at once if you need to. Where with the ryobi you’d have to remember to swap batteries, and charging the 4.0 will take about 2 hours for both brands. Knock off 15 from HT total if you go for an oscillating tool or jigsaw. 25 less for a recip saw, but it does come with a 1.5Ah battery instead of 2.0.

[@Trials-and-Tribulations]

Can HT hyper tough use M18 m12 Milwaukee battery with adapter For extra bump😊 I know bauer's can use Milwaukee battery with adapter.

[@ksavage681]

I bought the brushed version by mistake ( I was sleepy when I clicked). I thought i would give it a try before returning it, but to my amazement, it handled wheel lug nuts with no problem at all, two seconds of impact was all it took. It has no battery meter or multiple speeds, but it feels way better in the hand. I will be keeping it. Supposedly only 30 foot pounds less torque.bought it to keep in the car.

[@davidacosta147]

I got just the power torque an it works great

[@GabrielZuniga-z6n]

The fact that hyper tough is being put next to ryobi is already a win for HT . No matter what anyone says ryobi is not a cheap tool, professionals actually use ryobi on job sights

[@DavinTherealdealmcneal]

Theyvare clearances on the ht for 24$ rn with 2.0 battery

[@zendell37]

Say what you will about the Hypertough 20v saws, but their circular and jig saws came with fences. My Hart brushless ones did not. If you check the manual, Hart gives a part number for a Ryobi fence kit for both of them. Giving away industry secrets, Hart, come on!

[@HVACShopTalk]

Nice info! I haven’t used those saws, just the 20 volt drill and impact driver.

[@jlrockafella]

A more fair comparison would be to use ryobi old 2.5ah batteries otherwise that newer 6ah is giving the tool a unfair advantage.

[@jlrockafella]

HT does not have 21400mah lithium batteries so the power is limited to the old 16800mah and also a low reserve of 2.5ah. If the harbor freight 20v extreme performance batteries it would have way more torque 👍

[@dylanwhite6539]

None of that makes sense.

[@aaronsmith593]

The difference is Ryobi will outlast all of these brands. They are a mid pro home owner brand, but Ryobi is reliably made and have descent power for the money. I've tested many cheap Chinese brushless tools, Ryobi feels more solid made and usually way more power than most cheap priced tools. Hercules is good, but i believe Ryobi will outlast all of them for a reasonable price. However Ryobi is raising their prices for past couple of years now, so the competition is eating at Ryobi's heels. When they have the same quality as Ryobi, look out Ryobi. 😂

[@normanstaylor4569]

5204 Durgan Knoll

[@michaelhelms9087]

Impact Driver!

[@terrellscaife2411]

Interesting

[@GabrielZuniga-z6n]

Hyper tough is still way cheaper . Ryobi prices are always the same and harbor freight is becoming its own enemy with rising prices

[@brianellinger6622]

no sniffles....

[@edwinhoward6530]

batteries make a difference

[@HVACShopTalk]

Yes they do

[@josephalmatran4260]

Thank you i emailed you from my gmail acct. 👍👍👍great suprise this morning.

[@HVACShopTalk]

Congrats again man, enjoy!

[@DickeyLauren-o6f]

6284 Wilkinson Via

[@dylanwhite6539]

Worth noting that the brushless version is now $59. For some reason the brushed version is still 64. Call the 4.0 battery 55 and you’re looking at $114. I’d say even if you consider the 4.0 mandatory it’s still a better deal than the ryobi. If you’re starting from scratch the ryobi is $139, plus batteries. At the current pricing, the cheapest way to get a 4.0 is to buy the starter pack that also gives you 2.0 and a free basic tool for $99. So in total $238. Or you can get a brushed impact for like $190. Granted at this time you are getting two tools for $238, but still either way you slice it that’s just not competitive with the HT. Of the comparable tools with the battery pack promo, the most expensive in the HT line is the fan, so for fairness sake we’ll add that in at 75 and go ahead and add the 20v 2a fast charger which matches the ryobi standard charger. So in total from both brand we have a Fan, 1/2in brushless impact, and battery set with one fast charger. The HT combo totals 208. 59 impact, 75 fan, 20 fast charger, and 55 4.0 battery. Now that’s $30 cheaper than the ryobi, but it gets better. Both tools come with slow chargers and 2.0 batteries. So the HT for 30 less gives you an extra battery and 2 chargers. Now they are slow chargers, but you get the convenience of being able to plug in all 3 batteries at once if you need to. Where with the ryobi you’d have to remember to swap batteries, and charging the 4.0 will take about 2 hours for both brands. Knock off 15 from HT total if you go for an oscillating tool or jigsaw. 25 less for a recip saw, but it does come with a 1.5Ah battery instead of 2.0.

[@SquidwradThomas]

Hey guess what. They just released a high torque and a mid torque version that come with new 4.0ah batteries and charger. How’s that for a damn deal lmao

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@SquidwradThomas and a new 2A charger too. Also looks like the new 4.0 has a battery meter on it.

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@SquidwradThomas the 12v also got a upgrade. Now it comes with a 4.0, the 2.4A charger and is $5 cheaper. All of them seem like massively good deals. The old version of the 12v is still being sold for $30, presumably until they run out. I’d say they’re easily worth the money.

[@SquidwradThomas]

@@dylanwhite6539 exactly! I gotta see how this stacks up to the competition!

[@SquidwradThomas]

@@dylanwhite6539 I ordered the high torque. Hopefully I can find out how much charge the new one holds but I think they are the same cells they’re always using.