The New Batman Grew Emotionally | Batman Caped Crusader

[@jaohonaxa]

I remember being thrown by him calling Alfred just Pennyworth for the majority of the season, but it made that first “Alfred” in the final episode feel that much more special

[@BearlyRegal]

That brief moment where Bruce drops his guard in front of Harvey was just *chefs kiss* We all saw it...and I think Harvey did too. Honestly, that whole overarching narrative with Harvey was superbly written - the parallels and contrasts between the two characters was wonderfully woven.

[@SerumLake]

It was such a neat little touch that said a lot!

[@MarioMastar]

Agreed! It was powerful and a bold choice to kill off Two-face that quickly, but like alluded to in the beginning of the essay, The writers don't want to just re-write the Batman we all know and love without taking the time to establish a few things that will lead to a good story. No doubt we were all kids when BTAS aired, and now we're all adults facing the real world every day. Our opinions changed over time and we're less about the goofy, flashy villains of the past that looked like mascots for the evil, and now kind of want to see a more grounded story that respects those who grew up with the series changes in perspectives. If anything, this version of Harvey Dent not only is my favorite by far, but also the most sympathetic as his death really resonates with me. They made sure we knew he wasn't some "two faced monster" trying to win one over other people. He was just an ambitious lawyer who got caught up with some bad people. He really was no different from a lot of us, and thus despite his actions and otherwise being known as a villain most of the time, we can't help but feel what Barbara Gordon felt when weeping over his corpse and Batman bitterly wanting to do what we all wanted to to Flass. Remind him coldly "Who's the officer that stops the symbol of peace from becoming the murderer?" I'd personally still probably have my hypothetical kids grow up on the original BTAS and then Batman Beyond as teenagers, but Caped Crusader is the perfect version for them to come back to my place as adults and go "Hey dad, wanna watch the Caped Crusader with me?" and really give us a chance to appreciate the story, just as my dad did with the Adam West version and original comics he grew up with in it's own way.

[@geronimus-prime]

I appreciate the care that the writers took in making each character's motivations grounded in human experience and emotion. Rather than making each villain a study in exuberant psychopathy, as has been the fashion in recent times. There's a kind of bravery in it. It reminds me of the way, in the first series of the resurrected Who, in 2005, all of the alien threats were fundamentally motivated either by desire for money, or for food. There's something very grown up about showing that side of humanity to an audience that presumably includes a lot of children.

[@MarioMastar]

Yeah, a great example is Harvey Dent, who they always kind of relied on the "bipolar disorder" to describe his character, but lately as people better understand mental illness, we kind of realize low key how offensive and disrespectful it is to just say "He's bipolar, hence the coin gimmick" as we never got a clear reason WHY BTAS's Twoface was evil. Especially since Harvey was normally a symbol of good and tried to help people as much he could. By flipping it to whre Harvey was the ambitious one and the "Two face" side was the remorseful one reflecting on how his actions corrupted him beyond repair, it's far easier to sympathize with this Harvey, and the fact that he very subtly seemed to have selective memory on whether it was Harvey or Two face speaking was a more accurate way to reflect the "bipolar disorder". He never used it as a gimmick except the few times he flipped a coin mostly to make a point, but never tried to use his bipolar disorder or gimmick to define who he would be. For similar reasons they had to fix Harley Quinn who was literally only defined by her "one sided love for the Joker" into a genuine psychiatrist who's heart was in the right place, but knew she couldn't get one over the corrupt billionaires by explaining to them why thier actions were the source of their damage. Thus despite her radical change, that Harley is once again, a favorite. Not relying on a gimmick, but being realistic enough to understand why Batman doesn't want to just "kill them". But it does mean CC is definitely for adults who grew up with BTAS as kids and want something for more mature audiences .

[@egbertmilton4003]

@@MarioMastar What the hell are you talking about? It's not a bipolar disorder that he's known for. It's literally a split personality disorder or DID as its officially known. His obsession with the coin, is also clearly a representation of OCD, considering he can't act without a proper flip. You don't even understand the basics of the mental illness he was inspired by and depicted with. This isn't bipolar disorder at all. Also, in BTAS, Two Face wasn't evil at first. He was ashamed at his appearance, but also hated Rupert Thorne, which began his spree of hits against Thorne's joints, crippling his influence in the city. He wanted to ruin Thorne out of revenge, hence why his initial crime spree culminates in him stealing Thorne's files, and then, when put in position, trying to kill him. When he's a genuine criminal, it's apparent that this is out of a desire to keep the corrupt underworld in check, when Harvey Dent as a DA failed to, as we see with his plan with Mason. It's clear Arkham isn't helping his condition enough compared to how it worsens over time. This mental decline keeps going, as Two Face finds himself liking crime for the power, hence why he does worse and worse things in his career, like nearly killing a child, or gassing Gotham, which is when Batman stops pulling his punches. This mental decline gets so bad, a third personality comes to life, the Judge. I'd say this is a pretty good understanding and progression of the mental illness in a terrible circumstance, especially for the time, with how sympathetic Batman is to Two Face until TNBA. This Two Face is a way more interesting character than CC's barely used one. And I despise how you claim Harley as only defined by her one sided love for the Joker. That's like saying the Riddler is only defined by a love of riddles, it's a terrible assessment of a character. She was a lively, bubbly and naive girly girl who did a lot of wrong in her own right in BTAS and TNBA. Her dependency issues were clearly depicted as a tragic, terrible thing, considering how abusive and ungrateful Joker is to her. And even with Poison Ivy, these issues remain as something that needs to be triumphed over. The CC Harley Quinn sucks, not because she's different, but because she has next to nothing in common with Harley Quinn character wise. The only things she shares are surface level details, like being a psychiatrist and liking women. This version is more of a depiction of Hugo Strange in character, considering her cold obsession with the psychological profiling of Batman and others (The Batman), and her crimes against rich clients in particular (BTAS). She's not Harley Quinn, she has no bubbliness, naivety or dependency issues. Take away the name, and just describe her to anyone, and they'll say this is either a new character or a female variant of Hugo Strange. Bruce Timm failed at translating to the core of the character.

[@moonwhooper]

​@@egbertmilton4003agreed

[@zackv4850]

to me the nocturna episode is by far the best. because, at that moment, in the instant that he chooses to comfort a child who just lost there loved one. that is when he truly becomes The Batman.

[@shawnlam3109]

The edited cut at 13:15 was an excellent contrast of characters. From Flass, a corrupt official, pointing a gun down, bearing something drastic, To Batman, a student of the law, lifting the exact same weapon, using it as a message. The ways you edit these videos are excellent, and that cut shows so.

[@SerumLake]

Thanks, I’m finally putting that degree in Film making to good use 😂

[@MarioMastar]

@@SerumLake Major props, your video essays are EXCELLENT! Such an amazing way to relive those stories we remembered fondly but being able to revisit them as adults with new perspectives. If anything, your videos are kind of responsible for me remembering why I love Batman so much to this day and that it wasn't just rose tinted glasses that made me love BTAS and Superman Adventures, it was a genuine love for the iconic character from how good the story writing was. Just like the classic Scooby Doo series (which I'm sure you could knock out the park with essays on those, the psychology of the people and their methods of scaring others to get what they want. there's some interesting parallels with that and BTAS.

[@theimperialcombine]

1:15 Its funny when you brought up Harvey dent being the most that resembles batman since If I recall the Voice of Harvey in the show is Diedrich Bader who famouly played as Batman in Media like Batman Brave and the Bold and Harley Quinn.

[@SerumLake]

You are 100% correct!

[@alexandrefrauches132]

In some ways, Caped Crusader Batman is the polar opposite of DCAU Batman: While that version started as dark but compassionate hero who, over the seasons, becomes darker and isolated from others (TNBA and specially Batman Beyond), Caped Crusader Batman already starts as brooding loner who learns to feel again and trust others.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

To me personally I feel like this is what everything The Batman (2022) should have been being the definitive version on how to do it

[@SerumLake]

Great observation!

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@albertthepeacock8020 Which it was although I feel it was prevented from reaching it's full potential bc of Reeves insistence of keeping this realistic tone, when Batman stories are more a mix gothic noir drama with psychologial character driven narratives, similar to classics like the universal horror movies and "Psycho". They have a horror/"supernatural" aspect to it.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@SerumLake Thanks! I feel this can be found in many characters in Caped Crusader, when compare to their BTAS counterparts. BTAS Penguin started as pompous crime master who becomes a corrupt owner of the Iceberg Louge while CC Penguin start as corrupt owner of the Iceberg Louge who end up revealing herself as master criminal. BTAS Clayface was deformed actor who was tragically transformed against his will into a monster while CC Clayface was an arrogant actor ho choose to become a monster after being rejected by his crush. BTAS Two Face was heroic district attorney with split personality who, after an accident, becomes a criminal split between good and evil, while CC Harvey Dent was show to be corrupt who, after his accident, develops some empathy and guilt for his actions.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

@@alexandrefrauches132 its based on Batman - Year One comics.

[@Alufear]

Batman learning how to be a human being again has been something I've been begging to see since The New Adventures of Batman and Robin onwards made him so cold to the people around him and the citizens of Gotham at large.

[@MarioMastar]

I like that this kind of acts as a Prequel to BTAS as well. Most of these stories try to reimagine him as becoming cold (usually due to constantly fighting the Joker to no end, or having beef with Superman to appease the fake fans), but Caped Crusader made the right choice of showing us "Batman wasn't always the beacon of honor, he did have some growing up to do." and it's not until you see the whole season and review it (like this essay is doing) that you really appreciate the work of art that is what the animators of BTAS really wanted to do. It doesn't feel "cynical" ike injustice or Batman VS Superman, it just feels more... "real". and Absolute Batman looks to be the comic's version of turning over that new leaf and trying to tell a more grounded story.

[@pigcatapult]

It’s jarring to think of Batman as anything but a static character, at least within a given interpretation. I need to do a rewatch with a more open mind.

[@egbertmilton4003]

What? No, you really haven't been watching Batman at all. Like, go watch The Batman (2004), or Batman: Brave and the Bold. Neither make Batman a cold brutal crime fighter.

[@civilbeast165]

Season 2 needs to have Batman genuinely smile. We’ve seen Bruce Wayne smile but not Batman. Batman has always been stoic and grumpy but he’s always had moments when he smiles and is happy. Like when he outsmarts a bad guy, saves someone, or like the under the redhood movie when he remembers how he met Jason. Having Batman smile and have a moment of happiness would be perfect for his growth

[@ClownPuncher139]

I really like this new wave of angry Batmen we’ve been getting the last decade. Caped Crusader, The Batman, and Arkham Origins have had my favorite interpretations of Batman, because they take what everyone assumes Batman to be and makes it apart of a very compelling character arc. These Batmen start off very violent towards criminals and act very uncaring towards those they’re saving and their allies. However, by the end of their respective stories, they all learn something new about being a hero. Arkham Origins learns that he isn’t a one man army and that he needs to appreciate his allies. And his upcoming follow up in Arkham Shadow seems to be expanding on that established story. The Batman learns that it’s more important to save innocent people than brutalize criminals, as we see him doing more saving by the end of the movie than attacking. And Caped Crusader has seen a mix of the two, he’s more focused on saving the innocent than attacking the guilty, and he’s more respectful to Alfred. All of these characters started off as what people expect Batman to be: a boring billionaire in spandex beating the crap out of people just because he feels like it. But evolve into more complex and respectable heroes by the end that we can see eventually turn into the Batman we know he should be. Side note: all of these Batmen almost lost Alfred in some way, which was usually the driving force towards the end of their arc, which is just giving more appreciation to the GOAT that is Alfred Pennyworth. I’m so glad we keep getting more of these young Batmen who need to learn what it actually takes to be a hero, because it gives them an actual character arc. Compared to older and experienced Batman, who’s only real character arc at that point can be questioning his code.

[@MarioMastar]

It does make more sense to see Bruce become the dark broodmaster rather than how it was depicted before, as kind of a mask when he puts on the costume. I do agree. I always found it really awkward that Bruce is this savvy, social billionaire, but when he puts on the mask, he becomes this dark broody computer, and never liked how it just seemed like the flip of a switch without explanation beyond "his parents died and he was traumatized". So showing that the true Bruce is a cold person and the billionaire's friendly gesture is just a facade (kind of like Batman Beyond ultimately alluded to) makes THE Batman's cold calculated nature feel much more on point and shows "That's not meant to be how he ends up, he too is still growing as a person and overcoming his trauma." meaning we will ultimately see an outcome. But I did like Batman Beyond so I still personally want to see that outcome as canon. I don't like the comics snuffing Terry McGinnes as if ONLY Robins can become the next Batman." I like it better that it was some random teen who had a somewhat similar fate because it says that "Anyone could be THE Batman, and the fight for justice is up to the generation that dons the signal of the Bat." Feels more like a story that will continue, rather than a story that's "forced" akin to the Robins taking over.

[@JohnNathanShopper]

Batman doesn’t kill, but Batman Caped Crusader commits vehicular manslaughter 😂

[@SerumLake]

It’s OK, we saw them moving after the car hit them, everybody is fine… they just may never walk again.

[@JohnNathanShopper]

@@SerumLake “I didn’t kill them. The impact-induced traumatic encephalopathy did.” 😂

[@JohnNathanShopper]

@@SerumLake Did you see the comedy sketch “Batman Doesn’t K1LL”? It’s PERFECT

[@MetroXLR]

I do like the character development of Caped Crusader's Batman. While it would've been okay for him to be like the BTAS version from the start, it somehow feel rewarding to see Batman have am arc throughout the first season and eventually get to the point where he starts to seem like the Kevin Conroy version that we all know. That last part where he almost calls Alfred "Pennyworth", only to correct himself mid-sentence is one of my favorite moments (another was Batman throwing Flass' gun away in anger, which reminded me of a similar scene from Batman Begins.)

[@timmmothhhyyyy]

this it baby , the video ive been waiting for

[@louisnemzer6801]

The show was a great exploration of trying to find out if the Bruce Wayne persona is just a clever ruse that he is always in control of (like he wants to think), or if it is an actual truama response that is often harmful to him.

[@jordanloux3883]

I hope Bruce and Harley get to meet again in season 2. I think she would be really proud of the progress he's made.

[@Iskelderon]

That's the strength of some of the best Batman stories, when the calculating sledgehammer starts to become human again despite the horrors in his past.

[@ThenewTchannel]

My favorite episode of BTAS is I Am The Night, and that whole episode is about him struggling to hold to his mission, feeling beaten down and exhausted after years of fighting a war on crime that doesn't seem to be going in his favor

[@andreykuzmin4317]

Coldness between Alfred and Batman is nothing new. Arkham Origins Batman also was a jerk to Al'. It's his form of self-defence, because Batman is afraid to both have more people in his life, and to lose those few he still has.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Oh, yeah, gotta like the "you're not alone" angle of the game... shame the later events of Arkham Knight seem to prove that Batman later missed the point and gone off the deep end.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Theory If season 1 focused on Batman and his emotional growth, I think season 2 will continue this development by focusing more on his Bruce Wayne side, showing him taking a more active role, using his money and company to help improve Gotham.

[@SerumLake]

It wouldn’t surprise me at all

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@SerumLake It could work as way for the show to introduce character like The Ventriloquist or Mr Freeze, which Batman defeats in the end not by punching them, but by using his identity as Bruce Wayne to help them during rehabilitation (in the case of Freeze, he could use his company to find a cure for Nora).

[@DawsonVanalstine]

i think it would be interesting if they make a session 2 if joker was a ww2 veteran because of the time period and it will give him a better motive than he's just insane

[@professormccoyspopculturer8345]

Ww1 because of the gas attacks

[@MarioMastar]

I'd like to see what Absolute Batman does to him as well. Given all the "Batman never kills Joker" memes, it'd be nice to see a reason for sympathy for the Joker, but I kind of feel like Joker in Caped Crusader may be the one who tries to push Batman back over the edge. He spent all this time learning to care for others and Joker would be the one who really makes him want to go back on that again. However, as I said in other comments, I don't want him to be so over the top it just seems like he's another clown making fun of a depressed person. I have faith the writers will find a way to tone him down but still make him the threat we all know. Kind of like Heath Ledger's Joker, I liked that one. He never needed to laugh, He just seemed like a cynical man who wanted to smile but physically couldn't, like when you tell a good joke and can feel the laughter in the voice, but the face is still deadpan. That would be a good route.

[@christiandauz3742]

I doubt WW2 happens in this Timeline due to lack of Racism, Sexism, Homophobia and Antisemitism WW1 would definitely still happen as it was over pride, greed, envy and ego I think this Joker is going to be a more extreme version of the Gold Age/Jack Nicholson version. Not obssessed over Batman but more interested in endless carnage

[@scotttrammell3913]

If this were to take place on Prime Earth(Pre-Crisis), the Animated series could have taken place from May 12-July 18 1937.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

I hope this show gets a second season and this is a very good video keep up the good work Mr.SerumLake

[@SerumLake]

Thank you for saying that. You’ll be pleased to hear that they’re working on Season 2 right now. Not sure if there’ll be a Season 3, but I hope so!

[@LegoTFGuy]

These analysis videos are always great at helping to point out details I missed, like the significance of Barman trashing Harley's office. Great stuff!

[@SerumLake]

Glad you like them!

[@ussxrequin]

Dudeee what a great video! I want to watch this now!!

[@harsyakiarraathallah2222]

I Love this Version of Batman, it gave Batman an Arc for him the Grow as both a Person and Persona, i can see a lot of Matt Reeves World Dimension, and i want to see him grow more. I hope people understand why this One of the Best Version of Batman out there.

[@TonyZarkua]

After Harley Quinn And Kite Man Hell Yeah Air There Final Episodes/Series Finale, Plz Do Videos Talking About The Villains/Characters Featured In The Shows

[@vanbivins4113]

I've always wanted to see a Batman that has just his fists, very little tech, his car, arrogant at first but steadily put in scenarios that force him to grow. I think the people that don't like the show wanted all the usual Batman bells and whistles in the first season and will say it was good. They're the same ones that will eventually say the second season doesn't live up to the first. The point of the first season was about growth, and I enjoyed the journey very much.

[@elefanteguerreropsiquicoan8951]

go read some bronze age comics, batman doesn't even have a grappling hook he uses a batarang with a rope attached to it

[@claytopolis]

I hope in the next season we get to see an original villain or another obscure forgotten character like firebug

[@The_Phantasm]

I get what they were going for, but ultimately this Batman was mostly forgettable for me and the culmination of Batman finally calling Alfred by his first name instead of just Pennyworth just fell flat for me. Also I wasn't really blown away by Hamish Linklater's Batman voice, however his Bruce Wayne voice was amazing. I'm still interested to see him improve his performance in the future though.

[@marcellinodadon1103]

_..."this Batman was mostly forgettable"?...i totally disagree!...i think that this Batman could be the best animated Batman we've ever seen thus far...maybe we both should wait for season 2..._ 🤔...

[@The_Phantasm]

@@marcellinodadon1103 My bad there. I meant to write "for me" at the end but forgot. Regardless, I'm personally not terribly invested in this interaction which is rare after an entire season. I'm really surprised with myself for saying this but I'm mainly going to be checking out season 2 for the Joker.

[@killachriz96]

​@@marcellinodadon1103animated series batman is the best... but I get if you like this version

[@legoben98productions]

When gentlemen ghost possessed Alfred Bruce let’s go of his walls and is terrified of losing Alfred was a major part of arc of Bruce letting his walls down to Alfred, it feels like Bruce becoming more open and letting people in his life would be a overarching goal, not in a bat family way but in a traumatized person is slowly recovering in their own way type I actually love Hamish’s batman voice it’s so retro in a pulp noir way and the raspy Batman like Val Kilmer, Robert Pattinson, Kevin connory on early seasons of BTAS, and even Micheal Keaton

[@The_Phantasm]

@@legoben98productions Glad it worked for you and again I know what they were trying to do. It just didn't work for me, but that doesn't mean that your opinion is any less valid than my own.

[@EnderGoku9001]

1:26 scottish fold ah ears

[@jeremy1860]

I'm glad they set the show in the period that they did. I can't speak for anyone else, but to me, this prohibition type of setting has always fit the character more than having him in present day :)

[@TheKeyser94]

Cape Crusader is a great Noire, one of the best that I have seen in the last twenty years, Nolan movies doesn't count, Noire was an aspect in the first two movies, but not as deep as Cape Crusader, but I still think that Lamont Cranston have a better origin story, he also was traumatised, by the first world war, but first he become a drug dealer Warlord in the Tibet, to then forced to redeem himself as The Shadow, but not completely, because not even he believe himself capable of redemption, not matter how many people he saves.

[@marcellinodadon1103]

_..."Batman: The Caped Crusader" is by far the darkest Batman animation to date...and i❤every minute of it..._ 🦇...💯...

[@kassidychriston1927]

How funny! I made a little tik tok about Batman/Bruce Wayne being different from the 90s version. Yours is better than mine, though 😅

[@MaxAzrul]

As much as i like Batman CC i feel Onomatopoeia was misused. You have a Batman at his darkest, a recreation of Onomatopeia killing someone(Say Jim Corrigan) and getting away would have added a Nice touch on his growth but Ono was demoted to muscle which is a shame. Also that scene Where he saves two Kids but leaves one inside always confused me. Why didnt he just have the third one ride on his back or something.

[@OrdoNekro]

His compassion shows through in the scene where Batman is fighting Harley's henchmen. I don't recall him even punching them, he just sorta shoves them or trips them. He's aware that they're victims in some way.

[@Scrinwaipwr]

I was so uncomfortable with how mean Bruce could be to Alfred at times, how that changed from the Gentleman Ghost episode to the finalé was very satisfying. Like doing a big poo after days of constipation.

[@annoying_HK_guy]

Same, I am so used to Bruce view Alfred as father figure So hearing him saying "Thanks Alfred." like Arkham Batman(also sound like Kevin Convoy too!), I said "That's our Bats."

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

Amazing!🤩

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

Emotional Growth for Batman? That sounds very interesting especially everything he did in 10 episodes of Caped Crusader. Also I don't know why he treats Alfred harshly in some episodes, although at least he cares for Alfred deep down.😮😕

[@legoben98productions]

Bruce cares about Alfred but still has his walls up kinda shows how much he is scared of being vulnerable and the walls fall apart when Alfred is in danger

[@MysticEle]

Fear. If he loses Alfred, that's it for his humanity.

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

@@legoben98productions That's true.

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

@@MysticEle Oh yeah.😬

[@emmanuelmartin7609]

I'm already eager for Season 2.

[@christiandauz3742]

Thank you Matt Reeves for showing us two Batmen grow emotionally!

[@Daldi564]

It'll be interesting how Batman's character develops in Season 2. No doubt he'll come up against some of the criminals he fought in Season 1, even as an opening shot. What'll be even more interesting is how they'll properly debut the Joker since he and Batman are the equal and opposite of one another.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Such a great batman show

[@Abbiiiiieeeee]

Off topic but Honestly these videos might actually make me think that caped crusader isn’t that bad as people think it is might actually give it a watch someday

[@SerumLake]

There's a vocal minority of people crying about it because it wasn't the show they wanted it to be, but if the comments on my videos are anything to go by, the majority of people dig it.

[@docweidner]

10:27 Is this maybe also, as much as you may dislike it, because a Robin stand in was there. I am NOT saying it was only Carrie's presnce, but I think it helped. I do agree, it was a definite character arc, which is nice to see.

[@SerumLake]

Considering that Carrie tells him to let her die, I don’t think her presence had any influence. But you never know!

[@docweidner]

@SerumLake I was going off memory. I just rewatched. As the sun cones up, Bats goes to help her, she pushes him away, says to leave her alone, he says he can't, and Carrie says he definitely can't. My view is that he was going to help, and he has frown more compassionate. The push away might have given him pause, but Carrie's comment may have hardened his resolve to do the right thing. It was a bit more bang bang than I remembered. One of those parent things I am not sure I would have thought of before having kids. Kind of like showing restraint when getting cut off in traffic. You want to set a better example for your kids than road raging. But it may just be me.

[@astrocitizen]

15:40 -- I've been meaning to ask for a while if anyone's voiced the parallels between Thorne getting nicked in the ear in B:CC and... certain real-life events that have happened since the episode's debut. I'm not saying one inspired the other, just looking at the coincidence and wondering if anyone's come out and talked about it.

[@jordanloux3883]

Animation literally takes years. That's like saying The Simpsons predicted 9/11 because they focussed on the Twin Towers in that one episode where the family goes to NYC.

[@knghtbrd]

The first season of the Arrowverse featured Oliver Queen on a homicidal rampage against those who frankly deserved to die … but without knowing what they did to deserve death. Not very long after that, what the hell, he's a hero, and let's just totally forget about the cold-blooded murders that came before right? How the hell is that reasonable? He still killed a lot of people. This … in Gotham city, mind you … this feels reasonable. Batman never actually killed anyone. The people he went after were the bad guys, and everyone always knew it. Even the cops. If people died, they died in defense of others. You see Batman go from just a vigilante who has decided he's going to cope with his pain by inflicting some of his own to … maybe someone who has other, better, nobler reasons to do what he does. If there's ever gonna be a time when Batman can be an ally to the police, he needs to not have been who the Oliver Queen of the Arrowverse was. He could not have been a murderer.

[@michaelharris7157]

I’m curious if The Batman will show a similar arc for Batman’s emotional intelligence in the upcoming sequel too?

[@TonyZarkua]

Then After Talking About Every Villain Featured In Batman Tas, Superman Tas, TNBA And Batman Beyond Plz Talk About The DCAU Villains Featured In Justice League, JLU, The Zeta Project, Static Shock, Batman And Harley Quinn And Justice League Vs The Fatal Five

[@kevinskywalker5539]

i'm surprised he was right then and here to become batman as a kid, scaring alfred, when he's usually a man who saw a bat in his house to inspire him to become batman. also it hurts to see bruce be mean to alfred, since he became bruce's father figure.

[@SerumLake]

If he hadn’t been so mean then the pay off of “thank you, Alfred” wouldn’t have been so strong

[@NoMoreSuperHero]

I’m still hoping the show asks about the morality of having Batman running around and ultimately not being ok with him.

[@kinman3051]

Where can I watch this il/legally

[@stdinkov]

Where in episode one it is mentioned that it's Batman's first week as a crimefighter?

[@SerumLake]

You’re right that they don’t explicitly say it in the episode, but in an interview with Empire Magazine Bruce Timm said the first episode took place during the first couple of weeks of Batman’s career.

[@saebianmyint8641]

Are you ever going to talk about the joker tease at the end of the season

[@SerumLake]

Yep!

[@takenname8053]

SUPER NICE

[@srstriker6420]

Now imagine if Spider-Man did get a show like this I would subvert expectations like in Jonathan Hickman’s Ultimate Spider-Man run for example and that he would be the reverse MCU Spider-Man that he would be an Anti capitalist and that Uncle Ben doesn’t die straight away(seeing Zeb Wells run on Spider-Man and the Spider Verse animated movies just shows that Peter Parker way is outdated and repetitive) and saying that there are no other heroes in this show well I thought that Spider-Man inadvertently made theses heroes like I thought of that maybe he freed Captain America from the ice instead of the Avengers and that another is that he was forced to help Donald Blake become Thor.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Agreed. I haven't seen a definitive animated Peter Parker/Spider-Man yet, that's for sure.

[@TonyZarkua]

Plz Talk About The Following DCAU Villains This Year And January 2025 1)Maxie Zeus 2)Farmer Brown 3)Luminous 4)T Gang 5)Sinestro 6)Bob Vance 7)Professor Milo 8)Mad Bomber 9)Dr. Dorian And Tygress 10)J-Man's Jokerz Gang 11)Bonk, Ghoul, Chucko, Woof And The Dee-Dee Twins 12)Volcana 13)Mercy Graves 14)Professor Hamilton 15)Grant Walker 16)Ratboy 17)Bruno Mannheim And Intergang 18)Lex Luthor

[@leafiddick2976]

He will when he chooses. Please stop spamming this video with requests.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

1:11: "I know it's cliche, but what's wrong with cliche?", saith Luz Noceda. 2:51 sure is quite a signature scene. Wait, first week? I didn't notice that. 3:27: And for some reason, I actually was bothered. Am one who thinks Batman should really save everyone even on collateral damage. 4:01: Tim Burton's memorable Batman take could, errm, take some getting used to... by the way, the Arkhamverse Batman may do that as well, especially come his final night in Arkham Knight. Would like "Barbie" to be the one who first finds out about the Batman's true identity, although like certain Joker iterations, she won't break the masquerade to the public... at first. Huh. Did not think of that when it came to him ransacking Harley's office uncharacteristically. If there's one good criticism against this iteration, it's that he's another Year One type. People would rather have another grizzled veteran, not unlike in The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, and Batman Beyond, and as such proven by folks who actually wanted Josh Brolin to be an older and more experienced Green Lantern Hal Jordan... not to mention that old NieR game version where you play such a character archetype. By the way, Batman here growing out of his inhumanity brings into mind other characters, like Decim the afterlife arbiter from Death Parade. No need to be Batgirl when one has an equally important potential to become police commissioner if not mayor in the future. Barbara Gordon becoming that otherwise gloried superheroine persona is not permanently set in stone across the cosmos, and same goes for canon events.

[@christiandauz3742]

Bruce x Barbara is still going to be a thing At least the age gap is minimal or nonexistence this time around Bruce Timm! Montoya as Batwoman is a possibility

[@SerumLake]

I’m willing to bet money that there won’t be a relationship between Bruce and Barbara. An Amazon exec suggested it to Bruce Timm and he shot the idea down definitively.

[@egbertmilton4003]

@@SerumLake Thank god he learned his lesson from the last couple of times he pulled that shit. His obsession with Barbara and Bruce was some of his worst writing. The only Barbara and Bruce romance that has ever worked is the Lego Batman versions, due to not being explicit, the fact that both parties are treated the same age, and it adds to the movie as Batman recovers from his worst state.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Eel O' Brian!!!

[@aidanhever3369]

Kinda reminds me of Andrew Garfield's Spiderman. He's also an asshole, especially to his Uncle Ben. After he was murdered by a thief because he stupidly tried to take his gun away from him, Peter became Spiderman to hunt him down and kill him. He didn't become a hero until he rescued a little boy from a car that was about to fall off the bridge into the river below.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

A wasted Spidey film series, that... but I'm surprised on how it left quite a positive legacy come the MCU's No Way Home and especially that canon event visual showcase in Across the Spider-Verse... that Uncle Ben sequence is just so harrowing.

[@aidanhever3369]

@@michaelandreipalon359 What do you mean harrowing ?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@aidanhever3369 It's like Bruce Wayne and Crime Alley. You've seen so much of it in the forms of many alternate realities that it ALWAYS feels sad and inevitable, with nary a moment to prevent it, and yet you can't help but admit that such a tragedy has to happen so to bring forth more good as a result... seeing that version, the Sam Raimi version, and even versions from varied Spidey cartoons just hit right in the feels for me.

[@wobblewokgaming655]

Since Eel O'Brain is in this series, you think he'll become Plastic Man?

[@SerumLake]

I don’t think he will because Bruce Timm and James Tucker said they didn’t want to have any other costumed heroes in this universe. But who truly knows for sure?!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Doubt he'll become Plastic Man, but I bet the incident that made him become the persona may happen... it's just that he'll either realistically perish or that Batman will save him from such a fate on time.

[@vibes_liam126]

i see so many unintelligent bad takes on this show bc it’s not cookie cutter BTAS and it’s so depressing that ppl don’t even try to understand the shows their watching these days it isn’t exactly what came before and they immediately hate on it bc of it it’s so childish

[@vibes_liam126]

they’re * typos like a mf

[@dejaypage1575]

I mean id argue Bat*woman* would be the name Barbara would use in this verse cause… you know, fully grown adult?

[@SerumLake]

Fair point!

[@dejaypage1575]

@@SerumLake though if Dick, Jason, Steph and Carrie aren’t “The Round” in a future episode, I will be disappointed

[@dejaypage1575]

Cause, you know, “a round of robins”

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I'd prefer she stay a lawyer, with maybe a future to become Commish or Mayor of Gotham.

[@christiandauz3742]

Why not both? Bruce x Barbara is still going to happen because of Bruce Timm At least there is no age gap

[@ovidiocorchero2795]

im not sure whats with all the eyeliner

[@killachriz96]

I get it... but i just didn't like this show... much rather just watch Animated series again... im hoping it gets better to where i can start liking it but.... idk

[@christiandauz3742]

You sound like a Boomer/Nostalgua Critic Female Penguin scares me. None of the male versions do

[@drow_Lilith9940]

11;02 if you can;t see your batman taking care of hurt or sciared child by the end of a season you writen a bad batman

[@jordanloux3883]

OSP put it best: If you can't do that, you just wrote The Punisher in a silly hat

[@drow_Lilith9940]

@@jordanloux3883 yep

[@christiandauz3742]

Even the Punisher would help someone Like in the very first episode of the Netflix show

[@WobblesandBean]

I still don't like how he's best bros with Harvey, who is a pretty terrible person. He also pulls the stereotypical "man won't go to therapy" and treated Alfred terribly! Justice for Alfred!

[@Rhekke]

The important thing is when Bruce/Batman acts poorly, the story never tries to act like he is in the right to do so. They are just facets of his flawed and human personality, alongside and intertwined with the more admirable qualities.

[@ThomasReeves-s7u]

Although I don't much care for this Batman his attitude to therapy I think made some sense. They don't really make it culturally like the 1940s for the most part, but the attitude to therapy is maybe a nod to how actual men would have felt in that era. Going to therapy was often embarrassing even shameful to men as late as the 1980s going by my memories. An announcement you were crazy or so lonely you needed to pay someone to be your friend. Also even though BTAS Batman was very pro-therapy, never disparaged it, he never went to therapy himself so far as I know. To some extent I think he felt he needed to be damaged to do what he does. Like the line in Batman: Mask of the Phantasm "I didn't count on being happy." A healthy and functional Bruce Wayne would, going by other statements in that scene among other issues, just have been a philanthropist or an anti-corruption activist. (I didn't watch it but I gather Adam West Batman wouldn't go to therapy because he's kind of happy and likes crime-fighting. It's like fun for him. Super Friends Batman I think seemed mostly happy too.)

[@bot34mfcr]

I'm eating a banaynay

[@josephd.5524]

'caped crusader' 'jacketed jihadi'

[@thebiggerslime]

this show is terrible and treats batman as a side character with the emotional maturity of an 8-year-old