The new BUNKER RUSH that's destroying PROTOSS!

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TastelessTV

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@mcspud
@mcspud Жыл бұрын
So good. After ~18 years finally low-eco openings are making a come back
@MoonyD911
@MoonyD911 Жыл бұрын
You mean cheese… 😂 this always happens in a cycle. Everyone keeps getting greedier and greedier in increments. Then the cheeses come back into meta.
@synka5922
@synka5922 Жыл бұрын
@@MoonyD911 the cycle of life
@conorcarrigan5543
@conorcarrigan5543 Жыл бұрын
@@MoonyD911 You mean where the 2nd CC was still early? So cheesey.
@smashoverkill
@smashoverkill Жыл бұрын
This was super cool. Love the content and the fact that this game still develops. Bw forever!
@Wadeinh20
@Wadeinh20 Жыл бұрын
love seeing new stuff. Would like to see more of the ladder struggles.
@joulethrex
@joulethrex Жыл бұрын
Nice way to punish cross spawn Nexus first. Take note Artosis!
@aaabatteries9948
@aaabatteries9948 Жыл бұрын
I could see arty failing with this build and then just saying its terrible and doesn't work
@Sxtycat
@Sxtycat Жыл бұрын
Yas punishing nexus first P would be so great for him!
@usmh
@usmh Жыл бұрын
Did we even see any cross spawn matchups here...?
@guyrusso6817
@guyrusso6817 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you just have to magically guess the opponents build and location first, or bunker rush which artosis does already
@leevieira5083
@leevieira5083 Жыл бұрын
@russo Not if it’s a 2-player map.
@jameswoll
@jameswoll Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, love this. Gotta know about the hot new builds crushing nerds out there.
@tossterr87
@tossterr87 Жыл бұрын
Tastless, this was not some random Korean player, this guy's name is "firebathero" and he is really good. Many years ago he even won some competition, against other professionals.
@Moache
@Moache Жыл бұрын
who is firebathero sounds like some random guy
@VenomousStare
@VenomousStare Жыл бұрын
Great video Nick! Reminds me of IdrA doing a similar bunker rush to block a Protoss into his main on Troy
@gordontubbs
@gordontubbs Жыл бұрын
I've done versions of this where I grab an Academy instead of a Factory and research Marine Range so they can actually fight the Dragoons from the Bunker. It ALWAYS catches the Protoss player off guard! This kind of opening is really strong against Nexus First and really weak against any sort of 1 Base tech rush like a DT/Reaver Drop.
@donyodonev1493
@donyodonev1493 Жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing. I am following his KZbin channel (without understanding single word) but he is amazing. He won against another BW player with SCVs only. He made many CC and won with SCVs :))). Also I saw Larva with him when he was saying “Te”, “Te”, “Te” while attacking with drone. Actually “Te” represents single drone attack😅. Great player and making a lot of fun. I would like to see Artosis using this build.
@n1te
@n1te Жыл бұрын
That's a famous ex pro, FBH (Firebathero)
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Hope this actually makes some impact in TvP.
@bunsofthunder9827
@bunsofthunder9827 Жыл бұрын
Love the content. Love when you give your opinion as he plays too
@windyrockbell3814
@windyrockbell3814 Жыл бұрын
Artosis has an aggressive answer to coin flipping apes as mong as his marines don't lag out and the bunker makes
@DerpHerper
@DerpHerper Жыл бұрын
I always love watching the Korean scene like this. As for the strategy, it's abusive, but races have been abused by each other since the dawn of time. I'm sure it'll be figured out.
@usmh
@usmh Жыл бұрын
It felt like one could pull probes to help one's goon fight the first 3 marines...
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
Or make 2 zealots. Gg P wins
@sulik682
@sulik682 Жыл бұрын
@@Dziaji Yeah but if P starts with two zealots mostly scouting blind (because first couple marines easily push away a probe) they have to cut probes or significantly delay other tech. And when T tries to rush they can just retreat (since they can't take down two zealots with 3 marines and an SCV lol) and get their own expo up a bit quicker.
@olivierslupik400
@olivierslupik400 Жыл бұрын
They've been abused since the xelnagas created them!
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
@@sulik682 yeah, but like Artosis says. A strat like this is just a coin flip. Pros know they aren't going to win ASL by flipping a bunch of coins. Sure you can win a percentage of games with a strat like this, but eventually, people see you doing it and learn how to sniff it out and distinguish it from your other main builds.It's a gimmick like a 4 pool vs terran.
@LounoirRecords
@LounoirRecords Жыл бұрын
it's really incredible how a game that literally hasn't changed for 22 years still develops (yes, the last balance patch was from may 2001) but i guess if nothing changes you gotta come up with something of your own :D
@secdeal
@secdeal Жыл бұрын
tbf the remaster affected the balance by making Valkyries stronger
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
Not really. Valks always worked in 1v1. It is when there are giant valk armies with carriers and goons and shit on bgh that they stopped firing.
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 Жыл бұрын
@@Dziaji if they always worked in 1v1 they wouldve been used more in tvz at the height of broodwar. a unit so obviously good against mutas would not just have been ignored by pros like flash. they werent used because with enough animations going on the game just wouldnt let them fire. wasnt just in bgh
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
@@yangpaan453 Yes, but that number of animations wouldn't happen in normal 1v1, especially talking about 3 valks or whatever. I used them all the time, and the only time they wouldn't fire is ridiculous scenarios that you get in bgh. A major reason they actually weren't used is because they freeze when firing, so scourge would just instantly take them out. The patrol micro is what made them be used because you can fire and then retreat back to the turrets and marines.
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 Жыл бұрын
@@Dziaji Patrol micro existed back then too. Obviously something changed with the animation to make them viable now. There is no way they were just overlooked for over a decade. Every unit has been theory crafted and tested into the ground by now. Starcraft was the first massive $ E-sport in the world. Not knowing how a unit works is the same as self-corporate sabotage.
@Eric-dd8bk
@Eric-dd8bk Жыл бұрын
This looks so brutal for Protoss but the thing is, it is really hard to pull off for Terran.
@Queenbg1
@Queenbg1 Жыл бұрын
"This guy" is actually FirebatHero - famous ex-pro gamer. That is why his control is so good. Strange that Tasteless does not know him.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul Жыл бұрын
You're right it is!
@TallestFiddle
@TallestFiddle Жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown. Would definitely like more
@invisiblemenproduction
@invisiblemenproduction Жыл бұрын
It’s good as long as Protoss doesn’t open with a Zealot I guess
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
Exactly, or pull probes.
@ondinnonk
@ondinnonk Жыл бұрын
Wooo can't wait for your storm gate coverage
@RedGrobo
@RedGrobo Жыл бұрын
This earned a sub. Really cool vid, and im pumped for Stormgate.
@nubesock5231
@nubesock5231 Жыл бұрын
This feels like one of those strats that once people know its coming it will become much weaker.
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
Yeah. This is garbo
@DJball30
@DJball30 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this Tasteless! Please do more!
@xunap
@xunap Жыл бұрын
awesome job, my man!❤ I think more of these will be of help for the foreigner scene
@0Akeldama0
@0Akeldama0 Жыл бұрын
as they say, the best offence is a good defence
@somecooney5304
@somecooney5304 Жыл бұрын
this was awesome. Yes, more of it.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul Жыл бұрын
I was told it was worked out that the apes in cans can't rush the too mighty Protoss warriors.
@junioraltamontent.7582
@junioraltamontent.7582 Жыл бұрын
I dunno if this is a "build" as much as it is BatHero just doing Boxer tier micro during bunker rush lol
@snaffu1
@snaffu1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate everything, Tasteless! Keep up the great work!
@MilanStier
@MilanStier Жыл бұрын
This was really cool, keep it coming.
@ArielCarrasco
@ArielCarrasco Жыл бұрын
This will work if RT manages to do it
@Tchado1000
@Tchado1000 Жыл бұрын
The spirit of Slayers Boxer lives on !
@TheRubsi
@TheRubsi Жыл бұрын
Cool strat but I think if protoss identifies it and properly drills probes he'd probably be able to crush it .
@Tantrumspam
@Tantrumspam Жыл бұрын
isn't that firebat hero? I'd assume he still has the chops from back in the day
@MKANDRESTINPEACE
@MKANDRESTINPEACE Жыл бұрын
Very nice is like a bunker rush in middle mao vs Zerg now available on Protos
@StopGooN
@StopGooN Жыл бұрын
it took 20+ years of developing meta to see terran owning toss in the early game lol
@Virtua..
@Virtua.. Жыл бұрын
It's fun but easily countered by making zealot before goon like people used to do. All about skimping to the lowest amount of units to hold, like how toss need a certain number of goons to hold mid game 3 fact pushes
@secdeal
@secdeal Жыл бұрын
didn't you watch the video? In the last shown game the protoss started with 2 zealots before dragoons
@Virtua..
@Virtua.. Жыл бұрын
​​@@secdealnah they weren't there to defend vs the bunker going up not sure if it was a proxy or where they were from
@ZwiffleOwnsU
@ZwiffleOwnsU Жыл бұрын
This is awesome to see, love to see the meta changing in real time
@whiteflash4444
@whiteflash4444 Жыл бұрын
i want to see artosis reaction to this
@gaskal_1365
@gaskal_1365 Жыл бұрын
"WHO THE FUCK BLIND OPENS WITH ZEALOT ON CROSS SPAWN???? YOU FUCKING APE"
@sleeper1855
@sleeper1855 Жыл бұрын
Very sick! Can't wait to see that in a full game.
@Aoueu
@Aoueu Жыл бұрын
Well, it works as a surprise, and if they skipped zealot(or zealot was out of position). Even if P skips zealot, 3 marines vs 1 goon already can go either way. But P only needs to bring a few probes to counter this. However, it is a nice low investment pressure and T doesn't lose all that much if this fails.
@Lilarcors
@Lilarcors Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Thank you for showing this.
@MrMister5555
@MrMister5555 Жыл бұрын
What a crazy cool build! Thanks for showing us.
@dimayurchenko4859
@dimayurchenko4859 Жыл бұрын
Cool content! Amazing tactic! Looks crazy and.. so terrain like. One more tool in terrain arcenal to fight against protoss
@TV-Girl-Enjoyer
@TV-Girl-Enjoyer Жыл бұрын
Would love more videos like this!
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD Жыл бұрын
The solution to this is fairly obvious: you build a proxy gate the moment that the bunker goes up. Then you destroy the bunker from two sides, or instead you can first harass the terran expansion. Whichever one works best.
@heyaParanoiA
@heyaParanoiA Жыл бұрын
: dont let Artosis see this
@charliesheen3019
@charliesheen3019 Жыл бұрын
u have to go thru with goons, but be aware that the rines can go up the ramp and kill the pylon and u gotta outmicro that
@techasatool4562
@techasatool4562 Жыл бұрын
definitely love this kind of content
@MarcAurelYoooo
@MarcAurelYoooo Жыл бұрын
Feels like you can just make a nexus somewhere "hidden" and should they go for a vulture to harass it, the bunker falls, and if they go for the tank, the nexus goes unpunished
@MarcAurelYoooo
@MarcAurelYoooo Жыл бұрын
Cool build though
@Malins2000
@Malins2000 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will see it in ASL this season
@Xylasider
@Xylasider Жыл бұрын
But Tasteless, Artosis told us that Terrans can't be aggressive in TvP.
@Jiminylee1212
@Jiminylee1212 Жыл бұрын
Thats firebatHero btw, (former pro starcraft player) I din't see any comments saying that and I dont think I heard tasteless mention it
@staarfajter922
@staarfajter922 Жыл бұрын
Oh you dirty dirty Terran!
@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053
@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053 Жыл бұрын
I guess you just make 2 gateways before, Cyber, Assimilator, or Nexus so you'll have zealots. I'd maybe put a Battery down after my 2 Gates so my Zealots can REALLY fight marines and scvs. Also, you obviously never cut probe production so you're more than ready when you can make your 2nd Nexus.
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
1 gate zealot would work, esp with a couple probes.
@tehvolka
@tehvolka Жыл бұрын
I guess you have to prevent the Bunker from going up by pulling probes? Also the first Zealot comes handy for defense.
@ClaudioBOsorio
@ClaudioBOsorio Жыл бұрын
Looks cool. I like the format. However, I think fast dts counter this. Idk, I would've to try
@Dziaji
@Dziaji Жыл бұрын
Everything except nexus first or 1 gate goon would crush this.
@MrFlytoskyyy2
@MrFlytoskyyy2 Жыл бұрын
t gets mine first tho
@patapata17
@patapata17 Жыл бұрын
fantastic content, please keep them coming :)
@icecoldporksoda3461
@icecoldporksoda3461 Жыл бұрын
Yes please more content like this!
@yyyy-uv3po
@yyyy-uv3po Жыл бұрын
While build your defense at home when you can build it at your opponent's base?
@IsThisReallyMy3dLife
@IsThisReallyMy3dLife Жыл бұрын
Love the content! Any time there's Korean text or speech, please give a brief translation saying what they're talking about. Why am I not surprised that it's FireBatHero bringing out the in-your-face tilt-inducing bait starts 😆
@IsThisReallyMy3dLife
@IsThisReallyMy3dLife Жыл бұрын
Also pls put a basic build order listing in the description, for all us TvP scrubs
@MichaelSotoCE
@MichaelSotoCE Жыл бұрын
He is mentioning that the protoss is cursing, or that fbh is concerned about dts etc. You just have to pay attention
@decksteroussnail
@decksteroussnail Жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of invention.
@rocketrockinit
@rocketrockinit Жыл бұрын
I play sc2 but enjoy videos like this too.
@AdlerSchwadron
@AdlerSchwadron Жыл бұрын
"this guys soundeffects"... this guy is firebathero is he not?
@jayrhee526
@jayrhee526 Жыл бұрын
taseless saying things like "his control is good" makes me think he doesn't know who the player is?? nonetheless fun stuff to see! good content!!
@whatanerd7628
@whatanerd7628 Жыл бұрын
needs more cheese...
@johnathancraig14
@johnathancraig14 Жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content.
@patrickburden8257
@patrickburden8257 Жыл бұрын
LOVED THIS CONTENT!
@Jc-do5xg
@Jc-do5xg Жыл бұрын
yes good content, get some tastosis casts in of current ladder games plz
@Euniceiscool
@Euniceiscool Жыл бұрын
what's that ending song
@Mattudog
@Mattudog Жыл бұрын
More of this please
@Kevmoeman
@Kevmoeman Жыл бұрын
Good video very interested in seeing more strategy video translations from the Korean bw content creators, I always hear how big of a streaming scene bw has but don't speak Korean and there are few translated videos
@UncontrolleDperson
@UncontrolleDperson Жыл бұрын
Great content!!!
@HHALOHAGRID
@HHALOHAGRID Жыл бұрын
I would love see artosis do this
@sinfonia11
@sinfonia11 Жыл бұрын
yeah do more of this stuff
@viniciusmagrin
@viniciusmagrin Жыл бұрын
Finally Terran can rush p. Edit: it is just p playing not greedy and forge expand that it is hold.
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 Жыл бұрын
That's only because the protoss opponenets play standard. Once they know they are about to be hit with this build, they will just make a zealot. Also, you don't kill the marines, you kill the SCVs.
@mataxpp
@mataxpp Жыл бұрын
You can't know about the build until its in your face, you have to open Zealot without knowing. and you cant focus the SCV with only 1 goon, it takes too many shots to kill. Specially if there are 3 marines hitting the dragoon.
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 Жыл бұрын
@@mataxpp I meant the moment you see the scv and marines don't just sit on one dragoon, spam units. They will want to expand behind it, so those extra units will next counterattack.
@Hightierian
@Hightierian Жыл бұрын
i need a shower after watching these dirty strats.
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709 Жыл бұрын
The only way to counter this build is to build scouts
@onarass6321
@onarass6321 Жыл бұрын
Love videos like this.
@jojosothjar9551
@jojosothjar9551 Жыл бұрын
Only thing that matters.... will Artosis abuse this.... or will he condemn it because its kinda cheese.... but takes out his mortal enemy
@brianhillman5867
@brianhillman5867 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the answer is to ninja nexus with your scouting probe
@PhantomHarlock78
@PhantomHarlock78 Жыл бұрын
Why they don´t use SC1 remaster?
@assault410
@assault410 Жыл бұрын
imagine if protoss win rate plummeted just because of this lmao
@b2lastgate
@b2lastgate Жыл бұрын
rly cool stuf to see good job for the video :)
@ericwaffles2928
@ericwaffles2928 Жыл бұрын
Okay so, I need some help understanding. The whole "idea" of the video is that this new early bunker play is supposed to be "new" or "reimagined?" Because, like, I was interested and starting watching cause I love Tastyboi, and I just see a bunker rush? What I mean is that, what's different or makes this fresh? The quick tank? Cause it took me 30 seconds to throw up one of my favorite casted PvT sets from like 2 years ago where I see this bunker rush, dam near exact style and timing, like 3 out of the 6 games they played. I very very much must insist that I am not being an ass or throwing out intentional keyboard criticism, I just am legit curious what makes this "new?" Cause I love new playstyles and how this competitive game has still yet continued to change 45 years after launch. And cause to me it just looks like a fast-bunker play style I've seen and loved for years.
@escanor790
@escanor790 Жыл бұрын
love this content! PLz more for youtubers
@lukex1337
@lukex1337 Жыл бұрын
This content is awesome
@janoycresva919
@janoycresva919 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about that DALE !
@MichaelMantion
@MichaelMantion Жыл бұрын
fast carrier, easy win. pylon, gate, gas, cyber, stargate, goon, pylon, shield, fleet , carrier, upgrade carrier goon pylong, goon, carrier. only probe when you have extra minerals. goons carriers and shield batteries, break out destroy scv ignore Goliath.
@hotdog5927
@hotdog5927 Жыл бұрын
reminds me of boxer days
@Redarmy1917
@Redarmy1917 Жыл бұрын
Further proof Terran is the most OP race and Protoss is the weakest. Thanks for spreading awareness Tasteless to counteract Artosis' massive copium lies.
@Big-E-TheBouncer
@Big-E-TheBouncer Жыл бұрын
awesome video
@JustinK0
@JustinK0 Жыл бұрын
artosis will still find a way to fuck it up and blame tvp for being too hard,.
@justincronkright5025
@justincronkright5025 Жыл бұрын
Decades of Artosis being proved wrong & we're just half a minute through into the video.
@guyrusso6817
@guyrusso6817 Жыл бұрын
Not really, you're just praying that they skipped zealots.
@justincronkright5025
@justincronkright5025 Жыл бұрын
@@guyrusso6817 You need marines out to deal with zealots anyway, unless it's a quick factory vulture. Having a reasonable number is going to be the baseline anyway in that case also & pivoting looks reasonably fine with the timings there.
@ATOQ777
@ATOQ777 Жыл бұрын
Love the content
@usmh
@usmh Жыл бұрын
What's the Korean letter in the thumbnail?
@mowsefmow8177
@mowsefmow8177 10 ай бұрын
if he builds 2 zealots instead tho, what then
@Johnsmith-bk3uk
@Johnsmith-bk3uk Жыл бұрын
Did RT get the memo?😅
@lanirus7515
@lanirus7515 Жыл бұрын
this happened to me at f rank lmfao
@GamerMcBaggin
@GamerMcBaggin Жыл бұрын
This is so funny
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