The New Doctor Who Title Sequence Annoys Me

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Tom Blyth

Tom Blyth

Күн бұрын

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@GingerAnimator
@GingerAnimator 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video. You effortlessly verbalised some of the issues I have with it, and taught me aspects about the theme and sequence integration I’d never considered (and thank you for the shout out) I really hope we get to see the uncut title sequence at some point, as even if it’s cheesy, I’m curious to know what the original intended flow would have looked like.
@TommyBNoE
@TommyBNoE 6 ай бұрын
That genuinely means so much, I’ve watched your Logo video a good few times now (especially in the run up to this where I didn’t want to step on your toes) so this is high praise! Thank you so much!
@bondservant4jesus
@bondservant4jesus 6 ай бұрын
@@TommyBNoEI don’t like the logo they are reusing an old one. I think there should be a new one.
@DillonExner
@DillonExner 5 ай бұрын
A major gripe I have with the new sequence is that IT’S NOT ALL ONE SHOT.
@hotdog1214
@hotdog1214 6 ай бұрын
Someone actually praising Segun's version of the theme (which is the closest homage to Delia Derbyshire's) and the title sequence being weird wobbly alieny stuff to evoke the theme of the programme. How refreshing. Big thumbs up from me and the tiny club who appreciate it for its more Classic look and sound. 👍👍
@TheZebbga
@TheZebbga 5 ай бұрын
I will say that there really isn't much I like about Chibnal's era, I don't even like the title sequence... but the theme song in the title sequence is something I have always liked. It sounds very 60's and very echoey. I like it.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 5 ай бұрын
Honestly the title sequence is his best theme
@Gojirawars03
@Gojirawars03 5 ай бұрын
I fucking loathed Chibnall’s run but that title sequence was pretty much as close to perfect as you can get.
@jimi4985
@jimi4985 5 ай бұрын
I think it's a crime the logo's blue box design is not animated to change from or into the TARDIS like how they did in Smith's era with the DW-logo. Like c'mon that's a literal BLUE BOX on the background there and there's another one flying around! ...it hurts not seeing them come together.
@billydakiduk
@billydakiduk 6 ай бұрын
Hi Tom, the music for the 12th Doctor titles, was only finished a week or so before TX. Everyone was working to the original Eccleston theme. I often get asked about the audio sync issues, but I had no involvement in the build for the sequence, sadly. Just the concept. Members of the BBC Wales graphics team work for Realtime now btw!
@TommyBNoE
@TommyBNoE 6 ай бұрын
Damn did not expect this comment in the slightest, absolutely love your work(and sync issues/my personal opinions on the music aside I do love the Capaldi titles, great work on that)! Wild how tight to release the deadlines on these major bits of branding are. I know the 1st Smith titles were only done in the 3 or so weeks before broadcast or something like that. With the temping of the Eccleston theme I’m reminded of the leaked copy of Rose using the Baker theme. Interesting to know they’re still temping into the more modern eras.
@christopheralthouse6378
@christopheralthouse6378 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, fanboy moment… IT’S BILLYDAKIDUK! HOLY!!!!!! I remember watching your OG concept fan made Capaldi titles! What did you think of the official version that ultimately became the OFFICIAL 12th Doctor titles? Kinda wild showrunners haven’t gone to the fans more often for title sequences…😅
@Bread_LM
@Bread_LM 5 ай бұрын
Bro, I saw the desync in Space Babies and did a full Wilf "It's happening again."
@mrandorex7495
@mrandorex7495 4 ай бұрын
It's them aliens, I'll bet my pension
@jokkemursula8731
@jokkemursula8731 3 ай бұрын
It's so weird how they just can't get it right. The problem was even present in the first RTD title sequence. The sound effect when the TARDIS gets close to the camera is mistimed in every episode after Rose until they just removed it after Series 3.
@Bread_LM
@Bread_LM 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are a lot of things that factor into it. It's all because of the intro stinger - if the intro of an episode has an audio stinger, the intro itself has to be split into audio and video to account for the audio overlapping with the live action footage. The editors are only given maybe 2-3 variations of the intro theme that has audio stings of different length, and the director has to choose where the best spot to start the stinger is and which length to go with, and then hope the footage aligns correctly. It's a weird system, I totally get why it happens, but I wish they'd figure out a way for it to stop being unsynced.
@alexevans9379
@alexevans9379 5 ай бұрын
My favourite thing about Jodie's era was her title sequence. Although, I feel like her titles would have been better suited with the darker tone of the Capaldi era.
@dratheart
@dratheart 13 күн бұрын
My favorite part of Jodie's era was when The Master (having stopped by the BBC Merch shop & e-bay to get all the Doctor's clothes he could) SHOT HER D-D-DEAD! I was excited, before I saw her in the role, that she was to play the lead; I really liked the idea of a female Doctor. Imagine how much better Jo Martin could have done it? Normally I'd say I wonder if she had auditioned but as I understand it, the BBC wanted Chibnall and he would only do it if Jodie was The Doctor and she would only stay as long as he was show-runner. It hurts all the more that the fan response to Jo Martin was so largely positive. I feel so bad for her as an actress to be IN THE SCRIPT for Jodie's final episode, and thus get to read before anybody that The Doctor would regenerate back into Tennant. Why? Because if an old regeneration could show up it means there was another chance to consider her and they again slapped her across the face and said "NO!" I really hope Disney doesn't renew for Season 3 and the show either dies or is revived by the BBC with RTD *GONE*. And I hope it happens before the "Joy Ate The World" Christmas Special.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 18 күн бұрын
missed opportunity for the Doctor Who diamond to actually be a diamond with refractions happening inside it, could have been an interesting concept to experiment with
@DWN037
@DWN037 2 ай бұрын
in the very first doctor who opening, at around 1:09 in this video when the logo pops in, my brain can recognize the word "doctor" but at a certain point the bottom word gets scanned as "Ohio" because of the mirroring
@samsolitaryroll
@samsolitaryroll 2 ай бұрын
Doctor OHO
@xii-nyth4101
@xii-nyth4101 3 ай бұрын
looks like a police badge of people arresting me for flying a kte
@thetasigma412
@thetasigma412 5 ай бұрын
Another thing that annoys me is that the Gatwa era now has this awkwardly extended ending to the theme music to accomodate for the fact that the logo is shown where the episode title used to be pre-Space Babies. It just feels wrong, since it just feels like they jammed 2 bars from a random point in the theme in there to bridge the gap between the ending of the main melody and the dramatic ending of the sequence
@AiRsTrIkExXzZ
@AiRsTrIkExXzZ 6 ай бұрын
Whatever people may think about the 13th doctor era, the time vortex was probably one of the best as it felt organic yet cosmic, as if the very fabric of time itself is alive which makes sense since it turns out that time is a living thing(we learn this in the vanquishers). Also, as you somewhat mentioned near the end, it’d be cool if the whoniverse bit was combined with the intro. They could have the camera looking at the whoniverse thing like it usually does then we see the tardis appear then quickly move across the screen into the time vortex bit we see at the start of the intro with the camera quickly following the tardis
@unorthodoxbox
@unorthodoxbox 6 ай бұрын
It just occurred to me that the underside of the Doctor Who logo is a perfect spot to slap the BBC logo. It’s blank down there, I’m not gonna say better but at least imo better integrated.
@joshc140
@joshc140 5 ай бұрын
I’d be exactly the same as if it was at the top
@TheMultiGamerOfficial
@TheMultiGamerOfficial 2 ай бұрын
@@joshc140 I think they mean directly under the WHO, on the diamond itself.
@Pokemaniac_101
@Pokemaniac_101 6 ай бұрын
One thing I think was actually a really cool side effect of the cut tardis shot was that in the 60th specials, the logo dissolved away with the rising strings in the 12th bar with the 13th bar syncing up with the episode title and writer, which I think worked really well, even if it was unintended. It's something I think they could run with if no other option exists with the current assets they have
@thegamingcook785
@thegamingcook785 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the intro should hype up the cast, and when the doctor who logo appears, it's badass. The new one there's no build up or punch, it's just " Cast.. title. Here you go"
@CJFS00s
@CJFS00s 6 ай бұрын
( 12:19 ) yeah it’s weird that they didn’t storyboard a replacement if that shot didn’t work out? Like always plan ahead! Even if they reused a shot, it would at least keep the music as it was and not cut down.
@BambiTrout
@BambiTrout 6 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if that missing shot is also part of the reason for the PNG logo. The missing shot would mean the logo came in too early, and the regeneration effects wouldn't be long enough to cover the remainder of the sequence, so while they fixed the timing on that, they used the PNG logo with a PowerPoint animation as a placeholder that ended up being in the final product.
@amacd07
@amacd07 6 ай бұрын
When you pointed out the fact that some of 12's titles were out of sync, my mind was actually blown. Like you mentioned, I never really noticed it was that bad because of most of the noise happening.
@cryptid_deity
@cryptid_deity 6 ай бұрын
The part about the intros being out of sync finally made me realize why I had so much trouble getting a feel for the flow of the intro this new season (like predicting the moment the Tardis would fly out of the nebula) - the flow wasn't consistent in the first place! Very interesting stuff, really enjoyed the video
@tituslafrombois1164
@tituslafrombois1164 5 ай бұрын
"I think this title sequence is so close to greatness, and yet just stumbles at the finish line" really describes RTD2 as a whole so far, especially after the end of Season 1 / Series 14 haha.
@LazerzZ
@LazerzZ 5 ай бұрын
This was so deeply interesting and wasn't something I'd ever thought about, love finding videos like this.
@SlippPlays
@SlippPlays 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree for the timing part. The credits are supposed to come after 8 bars of the loop introduction. And they stopped the intro at such a "cliffhanger" too.
@jmp_fr
@jmp_fr 6 ай бұрын
i feel like the shot of Doctor and companion hanging out of the Tardis would have gone between the nebula shot and the logo appearance- the string and wind flourishes accompany the Tardis movement across the cast names so perfectly during bars 5-8 I can't imagine it interrupting that- I think the new nebula shot with all the planets is slightly extended to allow for the lack of the Tardis team shot
@ComedicRick
@ComedicRick 6 ай бұрын
Heres the thing that winds me up about the new shot they added for Season 1, it's a continuity error. The TARDIS clearly stops trailing the nebula/smoke its moving through, then the wide shot happens and it's still trailing it. Once seen, can't unsee
@magnum3.14
@magnum3.14 5 ай бұрын
That "Whoniverse" logo is not a thing in the Disney+ versions. We get a normal BBC logo animation upfront as part of the video stream, and the BBC letter over the Doctor Who logo as you described. No Disney+ logo upfront either, but an animated Disney logo (not Disney+) after the end credits.
@FlammingtonStudios
@FlammingtonStudios 5 ай бұрын
The Whoniverse Ident unfortunately does have to be a separate thing, as it's only used in the UK. Internationally, we don't get the Whoniverse logo before the episode, so they'd need to keep them separate for ease of adjustability.
@AggressiveHydration
@AggressiveHydration 5 ай бұрын
You made some compelling points that I didn’t even notice.
@dominickeijzer5844
@dominickeijzer5844 5 ай бұрын
"It's just a matter of emphasis." -The Editor, The Long Game. I don't know why that quote about 'the right word in the right broadcast repeated often enough' popped into my head, but I guess it applies here musically.
@dipix3168
@dipix3168 5 ай бұрын
I'm not a musician but your analysis definitely made me see the DW titles differently and why which one hits or misses both visually and musically. Best 26 mins ever! A literal guidebook to title making
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 6 ай бұрын
They should just replace the title sequence with the entirety of this video for every episode.
@shaz2761
@shaz2761 5 ай бұрын
It looks like the opening to a game show
@Catalana2096
@Catalana2096 5 ай бұрын
It also really bugged me how the 60th version had the bbc logo off center with the actual logo. Thank god they fixed it
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv Ай бұрын
7:03 A great example of this comes from Dark Water, where the use of the Cyberman leitmotif makes viewers pay attention to the 3W logo on a set of double doors; without it, you'd probably just see the doors and think nothing of them, but the moment the music kicks in is when you realise that the doors actually have a significance.
@TheEleventhDoctor
@TheEleventhDoctor 6 ай бұрын
12:21 To be honest, I'm glad they cut that part off because I would have cringed and be like what the fuck? (mentioning about The Doctor and Donna in the time vortex with the TARDIS)
@Phulax.
@Phulax. 4 ай бұрын
One thing I've also noticed, which was fine in Tennant's intro but neither of Gatwa's, is the awkward momentum of Gatwa's name. As it flies toward the viewer it suddenly speeds up, which is rather jarring. This is not the case in Tennant's 60th anniversary intro.. so I am unsure why they made the decision to change it.
@Markus_included
@Markus_included 6 ай бұрын
I never noticed the BBC being animated, but now I just want it at the beginning like in RTD1. And I hope they make the same move like they did in Series 4 by replacing the title music but keeping the visuals
@Alphadanielmon
@Alphadanielmon 6 ай бұрын
God I love watching exhaustive nitpicky breakdowns of things only I care about! Great vid, subscribed!
@Ostermond
@Ostermond 4 ай бұрын
I’m surprised the change in focal length at the very start isn’t mentioned. It bothers the shit outta me, personally.
@MGB_2024
@MGB_2024 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful video! I'm baffled by the clash between a bright blue logo and the purple/orange vortex - especially when we've seen a blue vortex in EoD. They even gave the png a slight pink tint so it wouldn't look too out of place. I presumed the 'final' logo would emerge from the abstract blue shape behind the names with all the lines leading in. So many bizarre decisions.
@SuperCrazyfin
@SuperCrazyfin 6 ай бұрын
Man this video was made for me. You addressed pretty much all my issues with the intro. One thing I will mention that's kind of a nitpicky thing is that the way the text moves feels weird for Ncuti's sequences. During the 14th Doctor specials Tennant's text moves smoothly towards the screen but Ncuti's seems like it suddenly jerks forward halfway through. Similarly the letters in Mille's text moves a lot more than Catherine's did to accomodate the Tardis and that isnt necessarily a worse decision I think it makes it look more awkward. Edit: You say that if people didn't notice the Twelth Doctor's titles being out of sync it might be because the music makes it hard to know where the textual elements should land musically but I honestly think the opposite, i think it's easier to notice than previous instances of the Doctor Who intro being out of sync because there are so many instances of textual elements lining up with the music compared to the other intros, at least twice as many as the 2005-2010 intro. It could entirely be me being super focused on that stuff though but the fact that there are so many visual reference points for the music makes it hurt even more when the intro was out of sync. Edit 2(Apologies): Also I'm surprised you didnt at least give at least a passing mention to the extension they made to the end of the intro music for the Season 1 titles.
@RoryLittle-y5i
@RoryLittle-y5i 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to tell me things about the logo I hadn't known I needed to realise! I am very much a viewer who jumps into the stream and enjoys being hurled downriver, to enjoy the white water ride, without thinking critically about graphics and plot holes, possibly because I am a graphic artist and subconsciously tune out, as my brain's 'not at work' then. Which is why your analytically dispassionate dissection of the title sequence was a revelation. As you say, it would take so little to pick up the quality, so let's hope they have a further go at tweaking it for the Christmas special and season two.
@VOIDSTUFF
@VOIDSTUFF 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shout out mate! 🙌🏻
@owenwildish331
@owenwildish331 Ай бұрын
I did an experiment recently playing about with a couple of KZbin tabs (which was a bit fiddly), where I played the 60th Anniversary Title Sequence (on mute) alongside an (unmuted) modernised remix of the 5th Doctor-era Doctor Who theme and found it actually worked really well paired up with the titles... Also, earlier coincidently, just for fun and being a bit silly, I did the same experiment, pairing up a McCoy/Smith remix of the combined theme tunes to one of classic Sailor Moon's title Sequences, which also worked as well, which was so epic and it was so funny, as the music really matched with it.
@justarandomguy2424
@justarandomguy2424 5 ай бұрын
i just bit my fricking toung after you cut out the spinny thing of matt's intro at 4:50. THE FPINNY THIN!!!IT'S SPINNIM ANB IT MAKES IT AUTOMAPICALLY THE BESP INTRO ITS AMAFING! (f$%k I actually just bled)
@TommyBNoE
@TommyBNoE 6 ай бұрын
If you noticed a couple of the chapter labels being numbered wrong, no you didn't actually.
@Tien1610
@Tien1610 6 ай бұрын
Oh no, the Timeless Chapter Labels is canon 😂
@seaglitter9944
@seaglitter9944 6 ай бұрын
my mom is the one who pointed out how different the title sequence was to me lol. i honestly, kind of embarrassingly, didnt notice anything wrong with it, said i liked it, when my mom chimed in with "i dont know... something seems off. i cant put my finger on it." im definitely going to show her this video because you, and her, were absolutely correct!
@bradugar
@bradugar 6 ай бұрын
Annoyed in 73 Yards we couldn't of gotten the Intro but with only Millie's Name, think like for Heaven Sent where it's just Peter's Name.
@newman476
@newman476 6 ай бұрын
Or maybe even like Death in Heaven where Jenna’s name comes before Peter’s.
@chancethefapper4528
@chancethefapper4528 6 ай бұрын
Since its implied Ruby already lived that episode once before it started, I like not having an intro. It feels like we started the episode half way through:)
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 6 ай бұрын
Great video!
@HudsonMedia
@HudsonMedia 6 ай бұрын
There seems to be a king in the chat 🫵
@OfficialAquafn
@OfficialAquafn 6 ай бұрын
No way Dwfan91 commented bro! im a big fan
@Pat12379
@Pat12379 6 ай бұрын
How old are you in your videos I think you said you grew up with classic doctor who I think you probably didn't but you sound like your in your 20s mabey 30s
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 6 ай бұрын
@@Pat12379 91
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 6 ай бұрын
@@OfficialAquafn Thank you!
@SergeantBeckett
@SergeantBeckett 5 ай бұрын
22:26 - "If you didn't notice it, its probably cause the music was to busy and whiny"... no, I just simply didn't give a fuck... only till people started pointing it out with 14/15's sequence did I actually see it, but even then i still didn't give a fuck...
@PROdotes
@PROdotes 5 ай бұрын
My brain kept telling me something is off with that logo and I didn't know why... that's why... it has no interaction with the scene... thanks :)
@IAmOnFyre
@IAmOnFyre 6 ай бұрын
24:22 That sound is meant to be chuffing? I guess it makes sense because the logo looks like a train's, but it just hadn't twigged for me. I just thought the cameraman was panting from trying to keep up with the TARDIS!
@TommyBNoE
@TommyBNoE 6 ай бұрын
That’s just me subtly referencing the forgotten series James May’s Toy Stories… I straight up don’t know what that sound is meant to be
@The12thDimension.
@The12thDimension. 5 ай бұрын
​@@TommyBNoE"Realistic Chuffing sound"
@Hayden1969-ws4vy
@Hayden1969-ws4vy 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Just a small correction, though. The effect used to create the original titles was called 'Howlround', not 'Howl-a-round'. It's a common misnomer, but a misnomer it is!
@Limes_not_Lemons
@Limes_not_Lemons 6 ай бұрын
I might get back into 3D animation/compositing to try to recreate that missing shot. Used to do it in college and I can picture it perfectly in my head, I can imagine the missing shot as it was perfectly and I can imagine a slightly tweaked version
@robertholt3996
@robertholt3996 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. Hopefully things like this get noticed more often. I agree, the new version is definitely a major improvement, but there’s still work to be done. While I do much prefer the shot they have now in place of the snap zoom (sorry, I was one of those people😬), I think they really fumbled it as it comes off looking like two different artists or groups of artists worked on the different shots without notes from the others. The fact that it cuts from the closeup cloudbursting shot to the wide shot with planets is already awkward enough in my opinion-I feel like a much better way would have been to eliminate the cut altogether, making it one shot, starting with the closeup of the cloudburst, then a slow zoom out to reveal the planets, then pick back up with the slow zoom in as the TARDIS enters the vortex-but what makes it much worse is that it looks like two COMPLETELY different shots. By the time the cloudbursting shot is over, it looks like most of the clouds have dissipated, but then we cut to the new shot, and there are still plenty of clouds trailing the TARDIS. Just kinda awkward. However, I think my least favorite aspect of the intro now is the very beginning. The spin of the TARDIS looks very awkward in my opinion. I’m not quite sure how to explain it properly, but the movement looks way too quick and unnatural. It spins, then lingers in the exact same spot, and the vortex also looks weird as the perspective lingers way too far to the right of the screen. My eyes don’t feel like we’re moving *through* the vortex, so much as it feels like the clouds of the vortex are *emanating* from that spot on the screen. Not sure how else to explain it. Just looks strange. I think the animators could’ve benefitted greatly from studying the TARDIS movement in the series 5-6 intro. I don’t know who or what team worked on that intro, but they should be applauded, because the movement of the TARDIS has never looked more natural than it did there IMO. Anyways, sorry for the ramble. Just some of my further thoughts. Thank you so much for the video! Really helped me understand a lot of what seemed off or awkward about this intro.
@horizon9714
@horizon9714 3 ай бұрын
It hit me that the deleted shot possibly provided the same purpose as the Tardis panoramic shot from the first RTD era intro.
@frankd5426
@frankd5426 5 ай бұрын
i love your optimism what a shame it was so misplaced. hopefully this version of dr who will now be put to death awaiting a new period to come back better and return to its british roots and all that made it an iconic show! it brightened and amazed my childhood and youth until bbc killed it off. i was blown away when it was resurrected. and was done so well...yet again. until they sold capaldi out and did him so wrong. and it just kept plummeting from there and is diving the depths of the sewers of entertainment its viewing figures diving faster than a ww2 spitfire i hope you get a better reboot of dr who before you get to my age. i doubt i shall see another good version within my lifetime and i mourn the loss of this truly amazing iconic british show
@dratheart
@dratheart 13 күн бұрын
Season 7B is my favorite of the modern title sequences, I guess I have no taste, lol. But then, I also liked the "Trial of a Timelord" version of the theme, so yeah I guess I really do have no taste.
@Dyloneth
@Dyloneth 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I remember hearing somewhere in some piece of media/interview that RTD said the TARDIS' sparks in the sequence played a part in the story for this season. I won't say what that ended up being for the sake of spoilers, but the way I take this, could that mean we may see another iteration of this sequence for Season 2?
@VuddyProductions
@VuddyProductions 6 ай бұрын
i didnt notice any of this but now that you've pointed it out, well... thanks
@masternash7675
@masternash7675 4 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint is that iconic music notes don't add up to the titles of the actors and the logo. Biggest fumble in history.
@Darren79
@Darren79 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant video. Very well argued!👏👏👏
@trainsandscifi
@trainsandscifi 6 ай бұрын
I mostly liked the title sequence. For the 60th anniversery specials, the logo also would have worked better, when it used more references to the classic openings, like zooming the logo to give the background the shape of it. Or by using with the "WHO-Zoom" the same effect as the 80s titles. For the "fixed" titles it just annoyes me the ending with another "ooweeooo" for it sounds so weird, it would have worked with using an echo effect like in 70s. And also there had been so many opportunities to give the background the shape of the doctor.
@followthemoonrabbit
@followthemoonrabbit 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! From the first time I saw it the titles were musically out of sync for me and it's subtle enough that it just felt off in a way I couldn't pinpoint why. And the fact that it's not even consistently off is aggravating. Thanks for the excellent breakdown.
@hothotheat3000
@hothotheat3000 5 ай бұрын
I LOVE the way the strings kick in for the RTD era. It gives an air of danger and menace.
@Idkuhrandomhandle
@Idkuhrandomhandle 6 ай бұрын
I immediately noticed it. It felt like to me if lyrics/singing in a song wasn’t in sync to the music. Plus why would they shorten the intro theme?
@Midnightmiaaaaaa
@Midnightmiaaaaaa 6 ай бұрын
Amazing vid and I’ve just started - instant sub
@JamesBrophy
@JamesBrophy 5 ай бұрын
This is wonderfull and your garded commentary, trying mot to give in to simple moaning, is good to hear but the fact that your never panning anything puts me at ease. You researched thoroughly and offer defence for problems and simple fixes but make no demands at the end. This is the best kind of fandom to me. This was the first video of yours I've watched and I'm subscribing.
@JoeThornhill
@JoeThornhill 5 ай бұрын
I *have* forgotten on multiple episode whether or not I've seen the names. Just one, both, or more. Maybe this IS why.
@C-vl3jw
@C-vl3jw 5 ай бұрын
In the intro for the new series they changed some features, including how the logo comes in and having regeneration energy. The specials had a slightly different, less edited version.
@kentevenden6194
@kentevenden6194 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. So into the detail of this. My annoyance is that the scream/sting at the beginning isn’t consistent. Sometimes it’s full and luscious and sometimes it fades a quarter way in. Anyway. Super vid.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 6 ай бұрын
I agree I have to say I'm glad to see that diamond logo back but yes I agree it's not the best title sequence they should had made it more sinister like the original and progress more I also think having Murray Gold back is a backwards step I would prefer someone like Jeff Wayne or Rick Wakeman doing the composing they be brilliant they should have dropped the name titles and bring back the face I just feel the newer version is lazy despite what people think of the Jodie Whittaker era atleast her theme was progressing and it was scary the newer ones aren't.
@Fitzroyfallz
@Fitzroyfallz 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video! The new sequence hasn’t really wowed me either, and this is all probably part of the reason why! It also sounds way too similar to the 9th/10th doctors’ theme. In terms of visually, I’m not a fan of the clouds. They aren’t distinct enough, they’re just coloured differently. I think it needed more variation in textures. I actually love the 12th doctor’s titles, I love the clockwork-like sounds and the spiralling clock face, it’s so steampunk. And I love when capaldi’s eyes come in on that beat, because it makes a big impact. Also where did you get your shirt from? It’s awesome!
@Silver_Sand
@Silver_Sand 6 ай бұрын
What I don't like about it is that there is a perspective change, (to my knowledge) all of the other ones have been one continuous shot... Along with it not having the Doctors face in it
@pancakejaywithtie
@pancakejaywithtie 5 ай бұрын
I think the one thing this logo did a bit too much was cutting between shots. Most Title Sequences for Doctor Who Had Flow with Either the camera turning along side objects like the logo, meteorites, Etc. Or was The Nice CG and visual abstract shapes that Faded between Each other like in the Original 1-3 Era's OR 13's Era It stayed at one cut that flowed between shots. This Sequence: Starts with the TARDIS Looping around CUT Now the TARDIS Scrapping alongside the Vortex CUT Now The TARIDS on the Right side of the screen to Left Side just like The TARDIS took a 90° Turn Now does a 180° and goes From the Left to the Right in the same spot NOW THE TARDIS IS ON ITS SIDE going forward like it looped around CUT Now The Tardis is back Upright but Bursting out of a nebula into another vortex CUT (The anniversary series) Finishes with TITLE and Episode 3 cuts with no flow between them. The most Technical Cuts were in the 1-3 era's but what they did was Fade them together. NEW WHO never did that EVEN 11's SECOND TITLE SEQUENCE. There was never a cut between shots there was always a transition or a flow into the next! EDIT: What I mean is the Camera either panned along side Objects, or the transition either cut with a face of the Doctor (Example being the 4th), Used effects to cut between scenes like spark Effects (11's Second One). Or Like the NEW WHO ERA The Camera Follows the TARDIS between shots.
@dylerturden8018
@dylerturden8018 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, I knew they were average from the moment they aired, but got attacked by fanatics everytime I said something. Was expecting something very refined and contemporary to follow on from the whittaker era titles, like something waveform would make.
@Hello-Students
@Hello-Students 6 ай бұрын
Was sold on the title. Loved the opening monologue, and subscribed upon seeing Captain Scarlet in the background ;)
@just-a-Sillyblossom
@just-a-Sillyblossom 6 ай бұрын
Hey! as a design student I really liked your analysis with motion shape and music!
@bigwingedkuriboh
@bigwingedkuriboh 5 ай бұрын
I was really waiting for the end where you actually do watch a doctor who episode and it happens to be one where the opening was out of sync and you flip a table
@AGuyNamedAl
@AGuyNamedAl 5 ай бұрын
Also, the intro Music is shortened.
@AlisterBoom
@AlisterBoom 6 ай бұрын
Oh WoW I didn't know someone else found that the new logo looked like the pat patrol log. I thought it was just me!
@tableprinterdoor
@tableprinterdoor 6 ай бұрын
I really like your breakdown of the other title sequences!
@lozD83
@lozD83 6 ай бұрын
7th doctor's sequence/tune was awesome!
@SefEXE
@SefEXE 5 ай бұрын
I loved the snap zoom too :(
@rustybrooks8916
@rustybrooks8916 5 ай бұрын
This is currently my favorite title sequence, followed closely by 11's sequence. Everything about these sequences hit hard for me and feels epic in a way that none of the other sequences really do. Looking at many of these comments it is clear that the people who don't seem to appreciate the new sequence very much are those people who have a technical understanding and appreciation for how these things are created. I do not. I just know the newest one gives me goosebumps and makes me excited for what is to come. You can't make everyone happy, a good change for one is a huge mistake for another.
@renhoek3590
@renhoek3590 6 ай бұрын
great, interesting video. enjoyed!
@carsforever4002
@carsforever4002 5 ай бұрын
This was so fascinating start to finish! I do hope we see an in sync change for next season. Weirdly the budget must have increased compared to Chibnall’s era yet Jodie’s titles look more elegant and high in quality.
@carsforever4002
@carsforever4002 5 ай бұрын
Also I know this isn’t so related and it’s only 20 seconds but I wonder what your opinions are on the Sarah Jane Adventures theme in relation to DW and it’s music syncing with the logo/names. I think during the SJA run it’s almost exactly the same for series 1-2 (except Invasion of the Bane/Revenge of the Slitheen being variants) and series 3-5 being the same.
@mahfuzurchowdhury2765
@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 5 ай бұрын
It's seems they've attempted to do some syncing in some of the more recent episodes?
@thomasfernandomusic
@thomasfernandomusic 6 ай бұрын
Another strange music editing decision was looping the melody at the end of the title sequence and ending it with a nasty cross fade into the final crescendo. This is the music editor’s fault, not Murray Gold’s!
@cyan1737
@cyan1737 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video, I learnt so much!
@REFLEXiw
@REFLEXiw 6 ай бұрын
9:22 watch the intro for twin peaks the return. It's Russell opting to put more emphasis on his name than the name of the programme. A bit vain but hey he did have to come back after all.
@jack_grylls
@jack_grylls Ай бұрын
The snap shot in the first version drove me mad, glad they at least replaced that
@tidmouthmilk12
@tidmouthmilk12 6 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with your point about Murray's soundtrack releases (or lack thereof). I really hope that a full, extended mix of the new theme will exist outside of fan stitching, but I get the distinct feeling that won't happen. I just love the bits in the classic era sig-tunes where it does melody 1 and then hangs on the bassline for 2 (or more) bars before resolving into melody 2. I don't think any of the modern themes have had that feature outside of fan remixes. I should also point out that I do really like the diamond logo (heck, I pinched it for my channel logo as soon as the reveal of it dropped xD), but I totally agree about it not feeling at home in the title sequence. I must admit, I hadn't even really noticed the Powerpoint-esque transition during the specials until someone pointed them out to me, though I suppose that's part of the problem. The logo's prominence was so understated that I barely even noticed it!
@bowtieanimation
@bowtieanimation 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow.
@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow. 6 ай бұрын
I thought it sounded like a cool idea but then you showed the concept. That does look bad and I can definitely imagine Moffat saying _cut that._ When I first heard about it I thought it would have been the doors facing the camera.
@oddgorl23
@oddgorl23 5 ай бұрын
it is impressive you managed to make a 27 minute video on a 40 second title sequence
@NumberFast
@NumberFast 6 ай бұрын
About music releases: I‘m still waiting for original synth Series 1 and 2 soundtrack even if it is unlikely. One could hope...
@DoctorVision
@DoctorVision 6 ай бұрын
Don't lose hope. I've found from experience that waiting for things patiently does eventually pay off. I talked on and off for years to the composer Dave Cooke, who produced the music for ChuckleVision amongst other shows, about his plans to release the soundtrack to the show digitally. Finally, about 8 years ago he released the first album of music on Spotify and another half a dozen albums followed, something I never thought would happen. Same with Roger Bolton, another TV composer most famous for the BBC 999 theme tune. I happened to get talking to him last year when he was in the process of going through his archive as the show's 30th anniversary was approaching. So, it's definitely possible. Perhaps not from Murray Gold himself; I do recollect from a podcast interview in which he admits his archiving habits aren't exactly the greatest and much of his music is languishing on old computers and hard drives somewhere. However, the best bet is probably the BBC themselves who probably have a complete, isolated soundtrack for each episode in their archives somewhere. The greatest hope is that they'll do something similar with the classic series DVDs where they release an isolated score to listen to when they eventually get on to releasing the new series in the Collection Blu-ray boxsets. Hopefully it's something they consider and maybe someone could put the suggestion forwards. You never know, they might use it.
@LaeLae777
@LaeLae777 5 ай бұрын
Notice how every era so far has had consistent timing with the other episodes IN ITS ERA. This is a new era of doctor who so I can imagine this timing will stay for a while.
@joannacole681
@joannacole681 6 ай бұрын
thank you for apologising for wasting my tim- oh, no, I seem to have subscribed...
@MiguelGarcia-oj9ol
@MiguelGarcia-oj9ol 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!! I don't like it much either, has it grown on me a bit yes but thank you for being one of the few to actually critique it
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv Ай бұрын
I appreciate that Moffat has enough pull to influence things like the title sequence, because not only do I no longer trust RTD, but because it means there's still someone in the production team who can and will stand up to him; what _that_ means is that there's still hope for Doctor Who, even if it's incredibly minor, and "Boom" proved that Moffat still has what it takes to write episodes that are leagues above RTD's.
@SergeantBeckett
@SergeantBeckett 5 ай бұрын
23:44 - ok, as much as I appreciate that there are those that are bothered by all this and I am I no way dismissing it. RTD himself has said that the whole idea of this partner ship with disney is get younger audiences interested in doctor who... and if some like me, a 21 y/o, doesn't care about title sequence timing, I doubt a kid will. but hey, at the end of the day that's just how i see it.
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