The New Flash Hider Is A BEAST - Rainbow Six Siege

[@m.streicher8286]

I can switch from using the flash hider on everything to using the flash hider on everything. Nice.

[@trippin.fat-devils9877]

except for the l85*

[@hoi1010]

@@trippin.fat-devils9877 elas gun yea?

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

actually the comp will still be statistically better on guns like the Scorpion but the difference just isn't big enough to really bother ofc.

[@trippin.fat-devils9877]

@@hoi1010 right now the flash hider is better and the l85 is the only gun I run the compensator on as of right now

[@hoi1010]

@@trippin.fat-devils9877 ahhh bet lol

[@minion-mastr333]

7:30 "Even the fucking bugs in this game are inconsistent" I laughed so hard. Spectacular video, you really never miss with great content dude

[@MrAceClutch]

What a masterpiece of a video

[@mcjagergaming]

"I've done some serious leg work" See even Rouge-9 tells you guys not to skip leg day.

[@jespinosaa9253]

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[@omardiaz4427]

Lol

[@TheGodlyNoob]

more bugs lets gooo

[@ROGSGameOn]

fuckin buggy game😂

[@Rogue9]

It wouldn't be Siege without it

[@ratfromspace]

You wireframed and pretty much deleted your entire twitter after, shut.

[@ratfromspace]

@Prakal Parashar godlynoob used wireframe, which pretty mich gives you walls, got banned for it and then deleted most of his twitter

[@TheGodlyNoob]

@@ratfromspace What kind of conspiracy theory is this lmao, I nuked my twitter to not spend 2+ hours of my time a day on this shitty website

[@LarvaSolus]

Can't get over how ugly the new operator logos are..

[@Rogue9]

they're so bad... another great example of a thing that wasn't a problem and didn't need fixing getting... "fixed"

[@LarvaSolus]

@@Rogue9 Exactly, some of them look okay, hell there's even a few I think look on par, or even better. But majority of them are ugly.

[@Pau1]

So i'm not the only one having the same opinion :))

[@elodgubcsi]

As a novice to graphic design, I always thought that the old logos with their white outlines were so cleverly done. They could always be seen in any background colour. I guess that clever graphical choice goes down the drain...🤷‍♂️

[@captainmeat3]

i thought my gpu was broken when I first saw it, everything looks wrong

[@andrewkoo8671]

Only if there were a shooting range mode so that we could test these without taking 15 million years...

[@Rogue9]

Maybe it will come in year 8... or maybe not considering the rate they are going at nowadays

[@silentshabah]

Bro you're asking too much from Ubisoft. There are still so many thing working properly that Ubisoft needs to break before doing anything positive.

[@peentherat5163]

@@silentshabah true almost forgot about that 😅

[@carterwilliams7106]

They're a small indie company don't pressure them too much for new features

[@J4rboo3]

@@carterwilliams7106 uhhhh ubisoft is indie 💀??? u sure??

[@EternalDamnation]

Ubisoft: we have buffed the compensator Rogue 9: Hold my beer

[@hubertkreczman3082]

Idk what compensator is pls help

[@iandavidvillaloboswong5180]

@@hubertkreczman3082 its the gun hat

[@abrahimali7167]

@@hubertkreczman3082 put in on smg 11 and pull down to commit mass genocide

[@lazy7789]

Rogue reminds me of Sir Swag’s “without the bullshit” but for r6s

[@bujuwaj8842]

yes

[@iceygamingrulez]

How did you make me like this channel more

[@alexradice8163]

Sir swag actually isn't at all without the bullshit but ok

[@MrFusion]

@@alexradice8163 you gonna explain or just say some bs and not support it?

[@partydue123]

@@alexradice8163 This conversation without the bullshit. So this person thinks that people and things are defined by one trait but can they be wrong. Last time they opened their mouth, China agreed with their policies which means that it will impact more and more people for the worse.

[@dragonskinner7109]

Rogue always has the most informative videos

[@mine_craft0037]

Zen has pretty informative videos as well

[@dragonskinner7109]

@@mine_craft0037 Is he a sexy bearded German man who owns a portable house?

[@hyanehighoctane]

Hats off to you for still doing siege content despite beind clearly unhappy with the direction the game is taking, It's not everyone that would be that dedicated

[@Rogue9]

TBF, I am definitely thinking about switching things up... It's just a big step and figuring out my entire content from scratch is going to be a lot of work. Been meaning to do something but just not getting around to it quite yet

[@randomtslur]

Ubisoft: we made muzzles less confusing Also Ubisoft: lol just kidding

[@drillofthedeath879]

I would like they rework a little the suppressor, something like making the damage at range like the extended barrel, cause that’s what they do irl, and instead of 15% damage reduction, just 10%

[@sk8paradoxity]

if anything suppressor would reduce damage at range since generally speaking when you use a suppressor you're using subsonic rounds as well, which have less velocity which means it doesn't hit as hard at range and has more bullet drop. Suppressor definitely needs a rework.

[@sk8paradoxity]

suppressor should get the old compensator value of 17% recoil diamond fix, and compensator should be significantly buffed to let's say 45% recoil diamond reduction. extended barrel should be longer range drop off +17% recoil reduction. That way both of those attachments (Supp and EB) are actually competitive picks to the other 2.

[@ryanrobinson5903]

Okay... Other than .45, 300 Blackout, and internally sound dampened weapons, when a weapon is used in combat, supersonic rounds are being used. Subsonic rounds have trouble cycling, and defeating body armor, not to mention the don't fragment or tumble very well. Supressors also don't influence projectile velocity with any meaningful speed. The moment the bullet leaves the barrel, velocity begins to decrease, with the exception of rocket propelled bullets lol I agree with everyone here though, the damage drop on these things is absurd

[@MillerTM]

The Suppressor should do the reverse of the Extended Barrel. Either make the damage drop off earlier or make the damage drop off happen more sharply instead of being a slow way down. Extended Barrel should just make the max damage range last for longer.

[@cleanrunyt]

i see that you're getting more critical of this game, good for you mate

[@quamilfoster6044]

They aren't paying him and flying him out, what do u expect.

[@noahmarshall873]

@@quamilfoster6044 yeah hes still salty about being blacklisted from their content creator collabs

[@sunbruddah7333]

@@noahmarshall873 Or he's stating facts and the fact is the game isn't handle things great. Audio issues are stil prevalent during this games 6th year in development.

[@TheGodlyNoob]

@@noahmarshall873 or he just has no reason to bootlick anymore and can just say how it really is unlike the others

[@noahmarshall873]

@@TheGodlyNoob bro i see you doing the exact same thing all the time. backhanded shade to a hard working dev team just because you feel special when you hate on something popular. nobody takes your channel seriously anymore for a reason

[@YOOOO0OOO]

This Voice is just fire

[@alphawolf6708]

I swear, his voice sounds too fkin amazing, i was somewhat shocked when i heard him say fucking. Its like Kliksphillip but for R6S

[@sk8ermGs]

@@alphawolf6708 😂😂

[@eglewether5523]

#MakeExtendedBarrelNotCompletelyUseless

[@fbi3877]

P10roni

[@MrMasapoika]

Sometimes it feels like that they are focusing "fixing" the wrong things.. in my opinion they should be focusing on the audio shenanigans, rather than operator icons and muzzle attachments

[@MrFusion]

For real. There are bugs that have been in the game for months and some for a year+ and they still won't fix them, instead wasting time on stuff like this.

[@bubbleman2002]

There are different developers and they work on different things. Of course that is no excuse for audio going broken for so long, but audio engineers aren't artists, so why would they not update the UI while the sound is being fixed? It's not like the artists are needed for fixing the sound, and it's not like the sound engineers will be any good at needlessly touching up operator icons.

[@ExplosivePine]

@@bubbleman2002 exactly, I wish more people understood that.

[@ajjohnson5926]

Going on 6 years and they have a battle pass every month now and making cosmetics to sell..IMO they rather make Money then fix the basic quality of life changes like audio....I think Im going move to battlefield as my main game again when the new one comes out.... EA. Please DONT LET US DOWN!!!!

[@ExplosivePine]

@@ajjohnson5926 I agree with most of your points but the art team and the sound team are seperate. They can make new art and fix the sound but it looks like the people in the sound team dont what the fuck they're doing.

[@chrisdotdash5154]

Ubi needs a new engine…these “changes” are pathetic.

[@Rogue9]

It's a problem with almost all the top developers nowadays. They don't want to pay the license fees for mainstream game engines, so everyone is trying to develop their own. EA forcing their devs to build battlefield on the Fifa engine, Ubisoft trying to run a first person shooter and the Assassin's creed engine... It makes it harder for sure. But maybe with enough development time, their own engines will be up to the task in future.

[@Jonnygunboy]

Siege 2: jager boogaloo Pay me anytime you want ubi 👍

[@MNB730]

@@Rogue9 in all fairness to the "FIFA engine" Stuff it's frostbite and it's mainly for shooters anyways. And a bit of golf

[@Y0G0FU]

@@Rogue9 well ofc they dont want to pay a competitor like Epic to use the Unreal Engine.. even tho its astronomically superior to everything Ubisoft or EA have. But the inhouse Engines are so highly customized for every game that the only thing they have in common is the name. I could bet that the Assassins Creed and the R6 Siege are vastly different and that you could never make an Assassins Creed game with the R6 Siege engine and vise versa.

[@doldol1]

@@Rogue9 For how great engines like Unreal are, they aren't always amazingly optimized for everything. By default Unreal for example doesn't do destruction that well (siege), or larger player counts (new BF), also there is an argument to be made that monopolies/duopolies lead to less innovation in the industry. As an indie dev, it would be amazing to see an engine like unreal/unity ship with Siege's destruction, server meshing (or at least more advanced networking), etc by default, but I definitely don't think it's always cheaper for AAA studios to not use their in-house engines (Let alone something like DICE's frostbite has always been very capable), as they are developed for the specific purpose the game studio foresees it will be used for, and then later on, when all the devs are familiar with the engine retraining to a dif engine becomes clearly more expensive. Look at for example how long PUBG took to deliver a finished product. It was in a worse state than BF4 even for a long time, and PUBG didn't even need that much new tech that didn't ship with Unreal at the time.

[@LowlandV12US]

Vertical recoil is easier to compensate for than horizontal recoil, so I can imagine some people may actually prefer the compensator on certain guns even though the benefit is comparatively tiny.

[@Varinius]

the compensator really needs a significant buff to be viable, this is not it as an Ela main I will continue to huddle in the corner crying after they gave us usable recoil for one week and took it away again

[@Varinius]

@@firez2064 the video showed its barely any different to live?

[@parkerstokes2197]

Facts. I was super excited for compensator buff to make our best girl strong again but I see now that Ubi still hates us for no reason.

[@legomanlmt1820]

@@parkerstokes2197 my ptsd reactivated just reading the words “ela main” They are very scared to bring that back

[@alexradice8163]

Right after everyone bought the elite :)

[@lukasm.9339]

@@firez2064 the best one is muzzle break lol

[@julianlopez6838]

So, basically, vertical grip and flash hider for everything...STILL

[@firez2064]

Vertical not on everything

[@elodgubcsi]

I exclusively run angled grip on everything I can. You can always pull down harder, but you can't ADS faster

[@julianlopez6838]

@@elodgubcsi unfortunately, I play console and haven't mastered the art of holding a stick down...

[@mateocosta1770]

@@julianlopez6838 I also play on console and go angled on everything that is not the smg-12. Your vertical sense is probably too high.

[@julianlopez6838]

@@mateocosta1770 most likely! I didn't consider that tbh. Time to experiment.

[@rmhj01]

"Even the fucking BUGS in this game are inconsistent" Of all my years shitting on siege after around Op White Noise, NOTHING cut deeper than this.

[@TheEpicPancake]

No wonder I haven't felt a need to run compensator on the Scorpion. I've been running it with a suppressor since it often helps more than the compensator. Its already low damage really isn't hampered too much by it, and roaming's nature makes the lack of sound and tracer pretty useful.

[@TheIziPizi]

5 body shots on 1/2 armors, are 6/7 on 1/2 armors

[@TheEpicPancake]

@@TheIziPizi Fair enough, though considering its firerate and the range I try to force as much as possible, I end up getting headshots more than not. And again, I notice I get far more use from the noise suppression and lack of indicators than from a recoil reduction with how I play.

[@TheIziPizi]

@@TheEpicPancake and yeah, nice you are that accurate, and sometimes running supressor eith dumbest attachments is humiliating. So try to use red dot and angled with supressed scorpio, at least give it a try

[@TheEpicPancake]

@@TheIziPizi Yeah, my scorpion loadout is equally as scuffed. Irons, suppressor, vertical grip, laser. I'm good at hiding lasers so I use them on defense (not on attack though, it's easier to hold an angle than to swing one with a laser), but irons on the scorpion are actually really solid and genuinely make the recoil feel better to me. It's why I gravitated towards suppressor in the first place.

[@xornedge8204]

I just wished there were advantages to not using addons like a faster ADS. Then the horizontal grip gets horizontal recoil reduction instead of faster ADS.

[@michaelm4062]

You’re doing Tachanka’s work sir

[@robertgaskill5340]

“Unsurprisingly one of these statements isn’t even true” really be roasting ubisoft

[@Ryan-kj3tw]

I’d def be interested in a video that goes through and finds at what bullet the flash hider becomes better for each automatic weapon (like how for L85 it’s the 6th) so that we can make more informed decisions on our attachments

[@XCVBNMC]

Ubisoft in their infinite wisdom making it so that some attachments for certain guns are actually a bad idea.

[@Bruh-bh3uf]

Love you rogue!

[@Rogue9]

💙💙💙

[@anonymouslee8542]

No you're breathtaking!

[@ΓιώργοςΜυτιληναίος-ξ4ξ]

Love the fact you are providing a lot of content once again rogue. Would like to see a secondary smg's recoil improvement analysis and perhaps a comparison between the spear and the bearing to see which is the best loudout for thunderbird. Anyway hope your doing well and are happy. Big love from Greece

[@ABYTE64]

I was always useing it, only sometime I used compensator (for Scorpion Evo, Ak-12 and SMG-11/12

[@sheriffhotdog1443]

I just want Ubi to give Castle Doc's CQB-SG Shotgun because not only is it in his operator video, but doing so will actually allow Castle to be a better anchor/lurker with it. Edit: it at least separates Pulse and Castle from future weapon changes too.

[@hugon6717]

I'd be down with that. That gun wrecks.

[@keith8225]

Thank you so much for this. I love statistics for attachments and was racking my brains trying to find out what they did

[@poslanik1126]

I don’t play siege for a year now but I keep watching your videos! Thank you for the great work!

[@rustedyoda7339]

when i played the new update testing out muzzle attachments in Thunt i was surprised on how the comp felt like it didn't do anything, the only guns i could even notice a change was SMG secondaries. yet the flash hider felt like it made everything a laser... I will never understand how Ubisoft can't get stats right in their own video game. it's truly insane.

[@mazda09ize]

I need more of Rogue9 speaking english in a french accent in my life

[@Zygecks]

The impression of the baguette woman was priceless.

[@puddingspy9837]

The removal of FH's 1st shot recoil reduction throws me off a lot, breaking the deal for me personally. On TS I run almost everything with Muzzle Brake now

[@UnPokemon]

Me, who's been using the Flash Hider for as long as I can remember: "Good, gooooood".

[@krishanbhatt18]

Should I use this on every weapon, apart from Scorpion?

[@UnPokemon]

@@krishanbhatt18 On most automatic weapons yes, or the Muzzle Break, even on the scorpion the new Compensator sucks so I wouldn't advise using it

[@Demoerda]

Bruh. The compensator is a placebo attachment now. Nice

[@ala5562]

Can you share the data you gathered for recoil? I would like to make decisions for my new attachments and I think I'd have an easier time, if I had all the hard numbers. Rather than just spending alot of time in T Hunt on each gun and deciding what is best, based on feel. This way I can make most of my decisions beforehand and make changes based on feel as I play.

[@dumpling1263]

So wait is the compensator on the scorpion bugged or not? What muzzle attachment do you recommend?

[@bakes1324]

I play on console and switched to flash hider on almost everything and the recoil feels great. Gunfights are way more reliable now and seem less random with the small bounciness some guns had with their recoil.

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

I already used flash hider on basically everything. Hope it's at least as good as before

[@l337fox]

I laughed my ass off when the baguette and beret came out

[@DUDA-__-]

Vertical recoil doesnt feel random so I stay at stuff i can compensate and pick horizontal recoil reduction.

[@chickentit251]

Funniest part about all this is that flash hiders irl dont even do all of that, its a FLASH HIDER, not a RECOIL HIDER. Muzzle breaks controls all the recoil from all the bullets when firing a gun irl, but apparently it only applies to the first few shots (?) in R6.

[@ExplosivePine]

🌈 Balancing 🌈

[@seemslegit6203]

Some flash hiders are multi purpose like that, hell, a lof of muzzle attachments IRL fulfill several functions

[@jomocoker4137]

Muzzle Break is very unique. i believe that its main function now is centering your shots

[@Gettcrunk619]

Rouge is a positive man. Unlike another person talking lately. Thank you for keeping it real man

[@z1u512]

Who?

[@christaincarvalho]

17:25 LMAO you checked that room twice with the clone and still blew yourself up

[@Rogue9]

yep... saw the trap on the other door but missed this one. I guess the audio alarm distracted me

[@UnusualDeathCause]

Any updates or fixes to comp in laat 4 month?

[@rnbpopm]

On Console this was a great update. The attachment rework is exactly as Ubisoft described and they delivered.

[@chris1oh1]

“Even the fucking bugs are inconsistent” that sentence being said with such a calm and professional voice made me laugh so much 🤣

[@TheTEN24]

Great video, love how you’re sick of ubi as well and calling them out lmao. The new op logos are horrid

[@dittofoundation]

I use compensator on most of my guns rn. I guess I have to switch most of them to flash hider now lol

[@Grumpy_Mo]

I have a feeling that the first shot wasn't being accounted for by ubi since they didn't mention it when they described what the attachments will do in the future. The fact that the muzzle break still provides the smoothes start when shooting is super dumb. They should take out the first shot recoil as something affected by the attachments. Then the attachments can really be choice. As it stands now, the comp is just the worst and the flash hider will only be picked on guns that really have a hard recoil and even then the muzzle might be the better one to go. The big first shot recoil you've to compensate for when using the comp doesn't make up for the better recoil later down the spray. When I tested it on the TS almost every attacker gun felt best with the muzzle. Feels like the time when they first introduced the muzzle and everyone rocked it.

[@FireworkMerchant]

Great video but I really wish he would’ve compared the stats before and after. I had to manually go and look at his chart showing 3% Total Vert on FH (Old) and compare it to the 15% Total Vert on FH (New). Also he didn’t talk much about muzzle brake results? He mentions it briefly in the conclusion but no data or charts during the experiment results chapter?

[@alishaabani83]

Rogue is like that friend in school who explains the whole book for you 5 minutes before exam.

[@lordeddy05]

I was the Extended Barrel/Compensator guy Until Crimson HEIST. Flash Hider is the best at the moment. But with the new attachments I feel like Compensator is the way

[@acid1787]

I like the flash hider buff. been struggling with the vertical recoil a lot especially with the recoil and the bullet spread overtime.

[@9jawwad]

Ela with the reworked comp is doing wonders for me

[@abdullahalhasan559]

I waited this video for so long , because I really needed some explaintion : )

[@billapostoleros6228]

You have no idea how much I was waiting for that video !!! Gj

[@Rogue9]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Nathan-uc6rn]

I tried out the bearing the other day and it oddly felt like there was less horizontal recoil when I used the flash hider. With the flash hider the gun seemed to climb straight up while with the compensator it still seemed to bounce around a bit. Maybe I'm mistaken but this is Ubisoft we're dealing with here, so I don't know.

[@onionenthusiast9832]

Why change the muzzle attachments anyway? I feel like this change will only serve to mess up my muscle memory with certain guns

[@LibrarianOnUr6]

Dude, I hear ya! My muscle memory is going to have to go through an adjustment phase for sure!

[@Numen_MMII]

Hi R9, just want you to know I have stuck with you for ages. No matter what. Keep up the great content.

[@Jee7]

the blur comparison stressed my eye out

[@billapostoleros6228]

What about hibanas type 89 ??🤔 Flash hider used to be perfect for this gun cz of the small 20 round mag and the noticeable horizontal recoil. But now flash hider has no effect on the horizontal, is it worth bringing the comp for even 20 bullets ???

[@Iam0pti]

Inconsistent results? IMPOSSIBLE!..

[@torkleyy9168]

One thing I expected to see in the video was Jager's recoil. It feels easier again to me (with muzzle break which shouldn't have changed). Did you do any tests for the 416-C?

[@svkvvnq7564]

Same question

[@FrostBeam009]

Ehhhhh honestly idk about the compensator.. It seems to work fine ingame on live servers now? Might have been bugged on test server?

[@Rogue9]

Oh yeah, what I showed was that it didn't work on the old live servers but was improved (if a little inconsistent) on the TS. So even though I could not establish a constant improvement percentage for the way it works now, they it definitely seems more reliable than it was before

[@FrostBeam009]

@@Rogue9 It seems really good on the live server now! i basicly use it on every gun and just laser beam people!

[@davidwang4234]

My theory about why there are weird recoil discrepancies with the scorpion and F2 is that the devs decided to create new recoil patterns on guns which they tweaked after a certain date. Twitch got the recoil nerf and if I’m not mistaken Ela got a recoil buff relatively recently right?

[@rthatchet]

What if it only effects guns when pulling down? If you can't pull down good enough, tailor macros per gun only for testing purposes

[@xbugz3579]

I've been a fan of Rouge for a while... BUT MY GOD DOES HE HAVE A MAGNIFICENT BEARD.

[@falcongamingproductions9938]

Ya boi has been using flash hider for quite some time now, glad to know I’m gonna be using it some more :)

[@kadenbrown-cobarrubias5510]

no better way to describe siege than 7:36

[@StriderOwO]

Hey Rogue? Now that the new season's out and in our hands, I've noticed something a little odd: at least according to the recoil pattern stat in the menu, for a couple of guns, most notably Zofia's M762 and Maverick's M4, the Muzzle Brake seems busted, offering *way* more recoil control than any other option, as though it's affecting every shot instead of just the first. Is this just a bug in the display, is the Muzzle Brake actually affecting recoil that severely, or is the Muzzle Brake functioning as intended and it just looks like it's doing a lot more than it should?

[@Rogue9]

Last time I checked, most of the recoil charts in the game are pretty good indicators of actual recoil BUT, there have always been a few exceptions. I pointed them out in past videos but I highly doubt the devs did anything about them, even if they saw the info. So TL:DR, yes some of them might definitely be wrong and if it's the MB looking suuper strong, it might well be busted

[@asayu1238]

I think the dev should have introduced a new barrel attachment instead of changing the existing barrel drastically.

[@flanovskiydtauskiy5870]

Clarification for other fellow viewers: every shot counts as a first shot with a DMR and presumably also a pistol. I was expecting way more from this muzzle """""overhaul""""". Like, I really expected the mechanics of functionality to change instead of a simple retuning of mitigation intensity. They didn't even make MBs more interesting. As someone who mainly uses Compensator and to a lesser extent Flash Hider on automatics on current live (eve of new season today.) I am mostly disappointed with the extent of this change. I think there might be a disconnect between designers and technical staff on this, or the designers simply don't know what they are doing with regards to recoil.

[@ElCyberWizard]

Is rouge-9 rainbow six siege version of JGOD

[@Lagtivity]

exactly the video I was hoping to see. thank you! 😚

[@kaadn18]

"Even the fucking bugs are inconsistent" Ah siege, you've been the same since the day I left you.

[@sanninjiraiya]

Well that explains why the UMP felt so much better with the FH

[@Corrusion_]

Me when every season the UI changes once again

[@joshlowery8028]

Does the distance you shoot the wall from factor into the results at all?

[@ainidhalp5613]

Rogue-9 is the Head of R&D Dept. Ubisoft really need.

[@jackacacia8485]

Were the recoil changing barrel attachments ever complained about? I dont really get why Ubi changed them

[@Rogue9]

Just like the new operator icons... it's just one of those fixes that nobody needed.

[@fishchit.biscuit499]

Now wonder why the scorpion and the Alda feel so bad with the compensator, these 2 guns can really use the compensator but it's bugged who would have thought

[@mythbuster4315]

"even the fuckin bugs" dayum

[@torkleyy9168]

I've been using flash on pretty much everything but the increased reset time has messed me up a couple of times already in the new season.

[@Nickolaus-gl1xp]

You should test the machine pistols next

[@tzujui961]

I don't think bug No.1 is a bug. The old muzzle brake and flash hider reduce the first shot both vertical and horizontal recoil. The new flash hider have no first shot recoil reduce, but muzzle brake remain the same. The recoil pattern graph in game is pretty accurate.

[@milten76]

i havent seen the video yet but ive tried them in the test server and i guess they didnt do anything but changing the description.

[@arbysadvertisement6893]

even before this change, I could control recoil on everything exceptionally well. now with the flash hider buff, ive been accused of using strikepacks, mnk, and recoil control macros (which doesn't exist on console)

[@_Simoes]

Can you please share your sens? Vertical one. My one is trash after the update, even the lowest recoil is hard.

[@arbysadvertisement6893]

@@_Simoes vertical sensitivity is 40, ads sensitivity is 50, both deadzones are 10. I told all that because its all used to control recoil, not just vertical sens.

[@_Simoes]

@@arbysadvertisement6893 Thank you. I was using vertical 55 with 5 dead zone. I'm pushing to much when trying to control the recoil...

[@FEfan56]

Ubisoft balancing these recoil patterns like we only shoot 10 bullets at a time....

[@partydue123]

they think we only fire in short bursts of 3 when in actuality we are just playing a more interesting COD

[@jdnort6]

I can't wait for them to remove barrel attachments for weapon nerfs

[@pro_154]

flash hider for low rof and high.v recoil comp for high rof and low v.recoil basically

[@NYCompliant]

Isn’t compensator better bc it reduces horizontal and that’s the one that is harder to control since vertical is easy

[@parsastrife6629]

I find the first shot recoil to be the worst especially on some guns. It gives you a false alarm to pull down hard and then you find yourself shooting at their chest instead of their head.

[@NYCompliant]

@@parsastrife6629 oh I’m on console so horizontal is even harder to control but I guess I’ll j have to wait and see

[@pie_flavour1]

How is "first shot" defined? My intuition suggests that the first shot is the shot fired when the gun is centred, i.e. not currently recoiling or re-centring after recoiling.This confuses me when it comes to semi-auto guns. People say the muzzle break is the best for semi-auto because every shot is a "first shot," but that doesn't make sense based on my intuition of what the first shot is.

[@mateocosta1770]

I think it’s the first shot of a full auto spray. So basically if you shoot in single fire the recoil makes it go up but it’s instantly counteracted by the muzzle recentering the sight.

[@pie_flavour1]

I do not think that is correct because you can easily shoot a second shot before it re-centres.

[@Rogue9]

Last time I tested single shot weapons, it was really every singe shot that gets the benefit. From my understanding, the first shot is every time you click or push the trigger, no matter what else is going on.

[@wolfkilljoy]

They should buff suppressors taking out the damage reduction.

[@Hobokip]

personally i think a great idea would be to make the damage model for suppressors the inverse of the extended barrels, if that makes sense. the extended barrel doesn't affect the base damage, only the damage drop off. suppressors should work the same but opposite imo

[@lordlierhook3368]

No, just no.

[@1hunnet823]

should i use flash or compensater on scorpion?