The New Seiko Marinemaster ProSpex Diver's 300m SLA077 and SLA079

[@TheKopolanpoika]

I have 200M GMT both black and green and I absolutely LOVE that design, don't like that much about GMT function. I've been hoping getting same design diver without GMT function and that watch is absolutely my dream Seiko. Hopefully getting green version in some point

[@Hitman4seven-zv1pu]

You can buy a Seiko for 3k or a Longines Legends Diver for 2.5k or a Tudor Black Bay for 4k or a Omega Seamaster 300M in the grey market for 4.5k.

[@cheguisky]

What's your point?

[@derrickbell2338]

Should be obvious

[@carlosgj1308]

For that kind of money I rather get oris or longines

[@ikeman5774]

Exactly. For 3k, there are much better watches that I can purchase. My biggest caveat are the endices. I am sick of baton and circle endices, and the hour and minute hands to me look like an after thought. I'm sure a lot of people are in love with this watch. There's nothing here that excites me. All I see is another boring diver that looks pretty much like every other iteration diver that Seiko has made. Not to mention, no OTF adjustment for 3 large. Give me a break. Money well spent somewhere else.

[@oceanzu6585]

My SLA021 from a local watch dealer cost 2.2k, and there isn't any replacement for it if you prefer the look of Seiko. Longines? I have a Longines Conquest, a good watch for the price but it is not a unique piece.

[@KacyKnight]

Black dial is pretty. I'd wear. Bracelet is a step up with the highly polished touches. I'm wearing an identical bracelet on a Samsung Classic and I love it.

[@ae-ca602]

EUR 3000! Why does the clasp have adjustment holes? For this price, I will pass. Some people thought that the new Christopher Ward Trident 300 titanium was expensive!

[@issa9732]

Bro you can’t compare a traditional brand to an online only brand. With Seiko you get to go to an AD and try as many models as you want and see them and hold them in the metal before making a buying decision. I don’t know about you, but this matters to me. I am not buying off photos only. Anyways we all know that seiko watches get discounted at some point.

[@ae-ca602]

I rather spend my money on the actual product and warranty instead of paying the cost/profit of a middle man! Although nothing wrong with buying from an AD if you have one near by, but most if not all online brands have a good return policy! CW in particular has 60/60 policy, 60 days return and 60 months warranty. You will never get that on a Seiko whether from an AD or direct from Seiko. Btw, I have 4 Seiko's and I am not hating on them. Just pointing out their lack of innovation on the clasp and bracelet level. They are pushing the price of their entry models way up almost near the price of a Tudor.

[@thachnguyen5836]

@@ae-ca602CW quality is really not there. I have 2 of them and you can compare their watches to the quality of Tissot or Baltic. This Seiko use one of the highest standard movement from the brand not to mention the case finishing. They also have experience from making dive watches for decades. But if the micro adjustment is that important to you I suggest you to look for something else 😂

[@ae-ca602]

​@@thachnguyen5836for me when a watch is priced @ EUR 3000, it must check many boxes. No excuse for the brand to not include top quality and design on all aspects of the watch especially at the price they are asking. The clasp is functional but this type of clasp used to be ok 3 or 4 years ago. Even inexpensive homage brands are including on the fly adjustment clasp in their watches. The accuracy tolerance on a Seiko movements is too wide. For me the clasp and the bracelet are very important part of the watch and if they aren't top quality and they feel like an after thought, I would definitely go with the better option for me. On the CW quality, I don't know what CW models you own but my experience with CW and the 2 watches that I have from this brands I rank them at the same level as my Omega's when it comes to the finish and quality. Movement wise, I have both the Selitta 200 and 300 both are COSC and far more accurate the the Seiko's. Not at the quality of the Omega movement by will take the Selitta any day over the Seiko basic low beat large tolerance movement.

[@hammalamiri12]

CW is overrated, watches look nice on renders but quite basic in the flesh if you’ve handled high end watches. The new trident titanium with the ETA2892 clone is very nice looking but they don’t hold a candle to Seiko 8L / 6L models. Also buying an off the shelf bracelet made in China with Chinese patents is something Seiko just can’t do being a vertically integrated manufacturer unlike most Swiss brands. However you can buy a Chinese bracelet / clasp and put it on your Seiko if it really makes you happy

[@topangacailah]

I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. AMZWATCH brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !

[@derfdswed]

I will be picking this up. Always wanted a thinner marine master. Will flip my mm200 gmt and blue mm200.

[@ZeroSOFInfinity]

Would love to get the black one, but then I already have the 200m GMT version, which looks 90% similar to it....

[@justintsang6119]

100% - it's crazy how similar the 200M GMT is to this, even more so than the non-GMT 200M. It's also a bit smaller and more wearable IMHO.

[@Alexander-xq1gr]

This is my dilemma right now. I have the GMT but would love to have this one. They are so similar though!

[@ShalisaDume]

Yes, I have bought from AMZWATCH more than once. I even bought a new Omega Speedmaster which came with the fancy box and packaging. I am thrilled with all my purchases here. I would purchase from AMZWATCH again for sure.

[@AbdullahAbdullah-yw5ho]

Check out the Marine Master green dial 140 th anniversary, it’s the best looking MM so far

[@samuelkim2611]

I have several marinemaster Seiko watches, one for black and another for blue. If I purchase it, I will buy a white dial one. Thanks !!!

[@GapBahnDirk]

I have an SLA055 which is similar but the case is Everbrilliant steel. I really am a fan of the SLA055 and enjoy it as much as my existing 300M Marinemasters.

[@Huwberts_Emporium]

This is exactly what I've been waiting for, I sold my SPB383 MM200 GMT and selling my SLA023 MM300 to fund the SLA079 😍

[@darkcggaming]

You sell the SLA023 to fund a downgraded newer model?

[@1968jpy]

@@darkcggamingtotally agree. I own the SLA047 and it’s not going anywhere. I wouldn’t mind owning this new Marine Master but I’m not selling anything to purchase it .

[@1968jpy]

I wouldn’t sell your SLA023 but that just my opinion.

[@TheCdM1981]

Hopefully people will stop complaining now about the 39mm 62MAS even though that watch to me is great, but this is a legit Marinemaster in form factor and at 300m like a MM should be instead of 200m. The case size is a proper size for a MM at 42.6mm even though I feel it’s .6mm too big. It’s pretty much perfect. It also keeps all the trolls happy with the non exhibition back like the 39mm, and the bracelet looks like it’s the same as the 39mm which is extremely nice.

[@hammalamiri12]

People have nothing better to do then complain 😂 even though there is more choice then ever before at every price point from more watch brands then I think there was even before the quartz crisis. It’s often the people that complain that don’t own any high end watches or just getting into the hobby and think by understanding a spec sheet they are a ‘watch expert’

[@northernsoul1707]

Why is this watch a lot more expensive in the UK ? £2990 and they also do it n a light blue dial with blue bezel

[@johnrb9397]

How do you know the bracelet is very nice? Have you held one in the hand or on wrist? Is there a way you can tell from the photos?

[@chi1057]

I think it's very difficult to make assumptions like that without having had the watch in hand. In the same way knowing how it feels and fits on wrist without trying it on is guess work.

[@ShortLifeHax]

If it looks like a cat barks like a cat walks like a cat it must be a cat. Therefore if it's said to be nice even if in photos thus it must be nice.

[@skduncan1974]

Love it!!! I will have the all black model!!!

[@MrVitamincpp]

SPB199 was my last modern Seiko and will stay that way forever :)

[@hammalamiri12]

Tbf it’s a great looking watch

[@Supercruze]

Nice watch. Wish Seiko had a signed crown and flip flopped the Automatic and Marinemaster text on the dial. Agree on the micro adj clasp. Seems like everybody out there is providing quick adjust clasps these days. Seiko needs to get with the program. Me, I will stick with my SBDX017 MM300 thank you.

[@TheCdM1981]

How do you know if they wear smaller if you haven’t tried it on yet?

[@michaelhargis7036]

Calm down. Everything is fine.

[@TheCdM1981]

@@michaelhargis7036 I’m calm but to just make a broad statement like that is silly without the watch to properly review. He’s clearly making a comment based on lug height and thickness. With that being said the dial plays a large part with how it looks on wrist. This definitely will not look like a 41mm. Maybe more like a 42 and not a 42.6mm. Sorry I expect accuracy when I hear opinions. The measurements are pretty much similar to their baby MM and an omega seamaster. Both of which wear like a 42mm because that’s what they are.

[@1968jpy]

As I watch this video I’m wearing my brand new recently acquired SLA047J1 Marine Master 300 . These are definitely nice looking and interesting watches but my MM300 is a classic, iconic and being a saturation diver a much better watch than this new watch from Seiko. I’m completely satisfied and happy with what I’m wearing.

[@paulbugoni2846]

Where did you buy it if I may inquire?

[@1968jpy]

@@paulbugoni2846 Exquisite timepiece’s

[@zeussugi7936]

I love 4:30 date. The best location. All markers are there, plus the date is visible when hands are straight, on a table, for example.

[@modulo3664]

Speedmaster style bracelet looks baller as hell but I'll continue to save up for a Seamaster

[@John-x9x2q]

Love ❤ that date offset..I think a few tuna do that .

[@BoboacaDoxaras]

Ever since I bought a watch from AMZWATCH , My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?

[@2manysigns]

I think you're gonna want a Guinand Deep Wave . These are pretty cool though . I'm sold on the Deep Wave . Guinand are producing relative masterpieces .

[@jh-il5sb]

does the bracelet still have pins and collars or screws?

[@cgarcia3964]

How to review a watch without having it, so just read the website specs

[@ajmarion]

Looks great, the MarineMaster case is probably the nicest Seiko case design. Would love to pickup one of these in a year when they’re 30% cheaper. I don’t really care if it doesn’t have an adjustable clasp, but it’s a nice plus if they include that in the future. Seiko produces such high volume, so it will take them more time to re-tool the production line and introduce that feature

[@jamesminshall4601]

It’s a really good looking watch and it’s great that it’s not a limited release but it has major flaws and other negatives. Putting an x on the dial makes it look cheap, I’m not a marketing expert but when you can get prosper divers for a few hundred and this costs a few grand it devalues it. There is no good excuse for not giving there watches on the fly adjustment. I have to treat seiko’s as if they don’t come with bracelets and that’s just a waste off money. Those are the reasons I would not buy. The others negatives are unimpressive power reserve and stating accuracy deviation that leaves a lot to be desired. Seiko just feel lazy to me which is very sad.

[@danield6815]

I bought it today 😃. No QC issue.

[@maitrehg]

No on the fly micro-adjust clasp. No ceramic. No monobloc case. A lot of shortcomings for the new MM.

[@smgeraldo]

And a crappy little date in a real stupid position, rather don’t have it or do it properly. Have always loved Seiko but becoming ever more difficult to love this brand! Wake up Seiko.

[@pacmancalgary]

Agreed. The charm is gone. This is a situation of "new and improved" not being improved at all. I've still got an SLA021 that I prefer to keep over this new model.

[@maitrehg]

@@pacmancalgary I've been a fan of the MM300 since the beginning. I've had 4 different models. This SLA079 is not a worthy replacement. It's not a professional watch at all anymore. But youtubers and small wrists will find it thinner and smaller and therefore better.

[@pacmancalgary]

@@maitrehg I wanted a slimmer dive watch, I bought a lightly used SLA043 last week for significantly less than this new MM300 at $2,300 USD. Seems like a better value if you want a thinner watch and it's almost definitely better finished being from the higher end of the SLA line.

[@maitrehg]

@@pacmancalgary It's a nice watch for sure. But it has absolutely nothing in common with a professional saturation diver watch.

[@tuberaider]

I love the SLA077, but I will wait until prices drop and get a used one later.

[@donwarner6925]

Underrated comment.

[@hammalamiri12]

Just get it at a discount. My AD in London gives me 20% off any high end Seiko. I recently picked up an SLA067 for 35% off the UK retail price

[@shaagaknowsyou5295]

​@@hammalamiri12which one? The boutique on Old Bond Street refuses to do anything when you can walk not even 5 minutes away to Watches of Switzerland where they will lol

[@BrianNovak-gk5rb]

Looks like a speedy and a submariner had a baby. Love it.

[@Angry_Gnome]

Cue the ‘iT’s ToO eXpEnSiVe FoR a SeIkO’ crowd.

[@ajmarion]

“No oN tHe fLy aDjUsTmEnt”

[@johnrb9397]

I’m waiting for the prices to drop!

[@khole15]

Looks good, but the price doesnt at all reflect the specs, a swiss made Certina diver with 300 m water resistance cost around 800 USD

[@watchnut]

Already have one pre-ordered.

[@johnrb9397]

Congratulations

[@urbannomad8126]

I just bought this the SLA079. I slready own the me mechanically identical SLA055. I love the watches BUT. The 55 came with a rubber and nato straps and the 79 a bracelet. All are horrible. Granted I am comparing to my submariners. So I use the Zuludiver Octopus clasp with their rubberband style straps. Navy with the 55 and black with the 79. They wear perfectly with those straps and clasp. It wears well. As a 41mm or so. Crown still not signed. Paid 2,743 USD. I am happy with the watch for that.

[@fabricea7704]

Very good price for a Marinemaster, this caliber (8l35) has nothing to envy to some prestigious brands (🇨🇭). Knowing that the Japanese rarely pay the high price, you will be able to find one at half the price in a few months on its original market. 😉😁 🤞

[@shamunahmed7587]

Cant beat the OG

[@Matt-uq3in]

Looks nice going to add it to my collection 🔥👌

[@TheCdM1981]

I was under the impression this did have on the fly micro adjustment.

[@JG-od3xy]

other than date placement and bezel pip at 12 O'Clock, looks a lot like the SLA021 Marinemaster 300

[@maitrehg]

No monobloc case. No ceramic. No ratcheting clasp. Not a real MM300 at all.

[@AcmeRocket]

Except the 021 and it's variants are freakishly thick

[@maitrehg]

@@AcmeRocket yes and top heavy.

[@AcmeRocket]

This is really nice. No more clownishly thick MM300.

[@Motovationnation]

Not a fan of the date window placement. I have good vision even for me it's difficult to read the date. I guess they decided to do what citizen did and make their date windows extremely small.

[@d.j.ashley]

My eye is immediately drawn to the crown not being aligned with the 4 index. It kills me every time. They make such good watches but I just can't get past the crown.

[@felo6035]

Awesome, I really like them, and agree that pricing is not bad for the specs. Thank you for sharing!

[@yaaxarr8977]

I hate the X on the dial but price! Need white dial in the watch box.

[@donwarner6925]

Be honest, did they ever leave?

[@Oak432]

Pass. This watch is Longinesque

[@YanniBG]

Wow, it's a stunner!

[@dado380]

Chris you are so wrong, 6L caliber is even better than 8L from Marine master, for god sake it's used by Credor, in fact 6L is so good that even Swiss have licence to produce 6L in Soprod calibers.

[@wristopia4101]

White Lume and bigger lug width would have been an actual up to date version. I assume its 20mm, and has sapphire crystal at that price. What's the bezel insert material? Please lord not aluminium! The crown and date positions look a bit awkward in relation to each other IMO.

[@markwheeler4417]

These could have been the Omega Seamaster SMP killer for those who don't want an HEV wart. Close, oh so close. But, why no white lume and, why oh why, didn't they put a proper micro-adjust on the clasp.

[@maitrehg]

Omega can sleep in peace. This Seiko is far from being a serious competitor.

[@blairdalgleish8247]

Why don’t they sign the crown?

[@masterwatch]

I was thinking the exact same

[@kylebarns]

There are nice, but getting into Tudor money.

[@MatthewParker-j1r]

Prefer the OG MM300

[@elijahinky]

Listen, Im a huge Seiko guy.... BUT, I just can't justify the price point for a Samurai-ish (kinda...) watch with a failed QC Grand Seiko 8L35 movement that's +/- 15 seconds a day. Just buy a Samurai, put a better bracelet on it, heck, even get it regulated and call it a day for 4x less money. For 3k Im buying a Seamaster or a Black Bay before this marinemaster 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@hjkhhjkh3635]

Good on you, no one cares. Buy your Samurai and stop moaning 😂

[@JaxWatchesandEDC]

So basically this is the price they could actually charge for a Grand Seiko.

[@hailto]

Seiko has lost its mind... good look with this

[@mikemurphy8996]

Who in their right mind is buying a Seiko for more than $500? Seiko is not luxury, it’s supposed to be fun, not expensive. Maybe I could see myself buying a cool vintage Seiko for $1000 but for a new Seiko at almost 3K? No chance

[@EfenLi-j3c]

👍👍👍 Nice Watch and Elegant Watch introduce by Watch Expert - Watch Chris 👍👍👍 Good specs - too costly , Perfect look - not Unique , it’s just another Watch and overpriced

[@alcozar5905]

Nice!

[@carlosgj1308]

I love my middle range Seiko but at that price point Seiko has no idea how to make standard luxury watches like side crown misaligned bezel and bracelet I rather buy Swiss brand like longines for that price

[@willng34]

Sorry but that's tudor, oris and longiness territory, and touching Omega....when you're paying this much, brand name matters. I don't care what materials or manufacturing or polishing proccess are used. If I'm payng this much, i want the exclusivity and luxury of a brand name, despite the aforementioned brands not being luxury, technically speaking.

[@fredtafel]

Why anyone would spend that much money on a Seiko just blows my mind. So many better options out there

[@toddpower4674]

Nice.

[@orangedan5424]

NO Seiko ever brilliant steel though on this new release which is another disappointment. I think they should make this ever brilliant steel as standard materials on their high end SLA series.

[@emilnicolau68]

For me, it’s just a “Sea Urchin” (SNZF17K1) on steroids… reinterpretation, reiteration, re…calculation… and “marinemaster” title it’s given only because of the 300m wr. It’s far away from SLA021, in my opinion. Dust in the eyes of the bored watch lovers… P.S.: Chris, I like many of your reviews, your presentation style and the fact that you are the first youtuber that presents almost any new piece released. Congratulations! 👍

[@JG-od3xy]

I'll wait 6 months or so

[@DistractedPlatypus]

I can buy a $300 Erebus with on the fly micro adjust, but a $3000 Seiko doesn’t have it. Huge miss. And the 4:30 date is awful.

[@enasnI127]

I love the 4:30 date 😂

[@juniorjohnson5961]

The Date 👇

[@rohanbuck2185]

Lovely watch but over priced, the value proposition just isnt there

[@pk1342]

It's made in the Grand Seiko studio using Grand Seiko methods and Grand Seiko parts. 2.5K for a Grand Seiko seems pretty good value to me.

[@rohanbuck2185]

@@pk1342 at $4550 here in Australia it's a hard pass for me. Far better options in that price bracket here.

[@awynne56]

8l55 would be better

[@awynne56]

Also framed date window

[@thegorn]

I love the look of this but I'd have to see the dial in person. But damn for a 42mm watch I need to have OTF clasp. Dealbreaker. I definitely won't pull the trigger on this as much as I'd love to, as I know that if I do, within 12 months they'll have updated clasps and then I'll feel bummed.

[@user-lx7fj7rl3f]

That price is great.

[@sebwatcheurvintage2666]

Bizarre que personne ne parle de ce qui est pouf moi l adn de cette montre a l origine c'est le monobloc qui a disparu acheté ca ou une a 400€ idem franchement ceux qui veulent une marinemaster n acheter pas ça. Sans monobloc aucun intérêt . Rester sur la SLA021

[@borassictime918]

If Seiko is going to fit a date, and it has to be at 4.30, why oh why oh why does it have to be on the tilt??? 🤬 Too tight to fit the correct date wheel, or have an on-the-fly micro-adjust clasp (that $200 aliexpress watches have) on a $2900 watch!!! 🙄. It’s just about the money now Seiko, isn’t it?!

[@juniorjohnson5961]

It's always about the Money !

[@nguyenvietlamanh5464]

This is from my perspective, I think the tilted day window at 4:30 looks more organic and natural too me. Like it blended in with the indices and bezel better. Upright, it look even more shoehorned in and is just an eyesore for me. And it's not like seiko is the only one who does this, the $18k Blancpain Fifty Fathom also uses this day window format.

[@donwarner6925]

Oh stop it. They make other offerings that are almost on par with the Marinemaster.

[@jeffrey2705]

Is it me or does every Seiko dial look the same? Other than changing the movement and the materials it's the same watch as their cheaper ones. No difference is accuracy. And yes I know you don't buy an automatic for accuracy. But +15/-10 seconds a day is just horrible. Not to mention it's 42mm in diameter. A 39mm or 40mm would have grabbed more of the market. Seiko stays in the past on their watches. No innovation just copy and repeat. I own many Seiko's, but can't justify this buy on the new SLA Marinemaster.

[@danielsolstrand]

Slowly getting better for each model... not unlike Rolex?

[@jh-il5sb]

i agree......next month they'll have an SLA 80 and 81 in two new colors 😮

[@zacharyparis]

Consistency in design language is literally what makes a brand recognizable.

[@lexurious2227]

Yes they all look similar.

[@chia-mingyang5804]

Previous MM(SLE117/119) are 39.5mm and look totally different, aren't they?

[@niveusgaius]

Overpriced & overrated, and your grammar isn’t much better. It’s “Seiko is back”.

[@miked5789]

Don't like it's optics.... Looks cheap

[@HHIto]

Tudor is better at this price!

[@steadman2683]

Seiko Prospex SPB381J1 GMT is better looking . So your paying £1500 for the movement or more . Make Titanium , for that price . & what is the likelyhood of QC issues 🤦‍♂️

[@pk1342]

Zero

[@steadman2683]

@@pk1342 do you have the new Marinemaster ?

[@pk1342]

@@steadman2683 no but I have 8 other watches, all Seiko (one is a wired) with zero QC issues. The SLA models are made in Grand Seiko studios and are not famous for having QC issues

[@steadman2683]

@@pk1342 thanks for the tip , I will keep that in mind 😊

[@michaelm7557]

3000 euros. Hard pass. Pin and collar on a 3k watch? nope, not in 2024. No ceramic bezel, 8L35 movement wont be regulated like a GS one in 5 positions which sucks big time.. clasp is atrocious and its stamped not milled. Even microbrands started to improve their clasp and bracelet and for less than 500 euros. Ive seen a lot of microbrands that have very good bracelets and clasp design system which are far better than many big names in the watch industry and Im not a fan of microbrands. Look at the new update Sinn milled clasp with the new glide system, its pure trash. After all that many years if thats what they can come up with its pretty tragic, not to mention they are a german brand and germans are known for their engineering.

[@lx95020]

Totally worth the money.. Looks great too!

[@asa-w7s2b]

hahahahahha rip, off for idiots...

[@SaSpursFan]

Urgh the f**king miss aligned date wheel! They align models that sell for much cheaper!

[@VitanuovaQuintero]

As a broke boy and actual enthusiast who wants watch’s prices to crater, AMZWATCH is a good choice.

[@darkcggaming]

To be honest this model is a downgrade compared to the previous one (SLA021J1). No ceramic bezel ... Come on... Also, the 8L35 is an old movement and to be honest today its performance are inferior to a Powermatic 80 ... People must stop to mention "Grand Seiko" indefinitely. It's an old movement, almost 30 years old... Today it is hardly considerable "high end". Mechanical movements, in the mean time, have evolved a lot, while Seiko is still selling the 8L35 which has ridicolous specs for the price point (-10 sec / + 15 sec).

[@XirenDiogo]

In Toronto canada I buy a super super clone I bring it to a rolex expert he say it was real rolex . Unbelievable. Your super clone look just like mine. You a expert but a regular person like me will never know. Imagine on AMZWATCH

[@VitanuovaQuintero]

As a broke boy and actual enthusiast who wants watch’s prices to crater, AMZWATCH is a good choice.