The New Trackmania Car is Insanely Difficult

[@Fierylunar]

Nadeo: you cannot use analog keyboards with custom keypress profiles, since players cannot be forced to buy one to compete. Also Nadeo: adds cars that are best drivable on steering wheel or flight stick.

[@BairyHall]

They can't be honest and just say they dont like keyboard, because that would cause an outrage even more So we lie, and hope that nobody questions it, and if they do, we ignore it

[@johnnamkeh1290]

There's a difference between a simple tool like a controller, and keymapping a sophisticated keyboard. The accessibility is wildly different. Nadeo do not want their community to go ''to compete you need a $100 keyboard, otherwise don't bother''. That would be unintentional gatekeeping.

[@banaana1234]

@@johnnamkeh1290You are missing the fact that the sophisticated keyboard is the better option only when you already have tons of experience on a keyboard. Everyone else can just get a controller or wheel or whatever. The software that allows for modifying the inputs is available for every control device.

[@MH-ru8sv]

When on computer, even cheap controllers can be put through third party software to get custom analog profiles; so its not price gatekeeping. Plus if that was their goal they are failing spectacularly as evidenced by several Keyboard titans of the industry moving to expensive analog devices because they feel they have no choice in order to stay competitive/relevant (ie Wirtual learning Flightstick, Mudda learning wheel). GranaDy Wheel used to be fringe, now he's ahead of the curve...@@johnnamkeh1290

[@valk_real]

I hate "action keys". All cars should be drivable with just the arrow keys.

[@hollohullu9448]

A rally car that goes fastest without sliding is an interesting choice💀

[@sira_tv1703]

yeah like at 21:00 the regular car look more like a rally car than the rally car

[@GGuLost1]

@@sira_tv1703 yeah their physics are basically switched

[@SpecterNeverSpectator]

Trackmania seems like racing conceptualized

[@Skullbrothers]

Thats how many other arcade games do it. If you drive a track car on dirt it slides, if you drive a dirt car on road it slides.

[@JuppeD]

Yeah like they should have made it so it slides more and is faster with sliding. But now its just another car

[@laser_uhhhh]

nando when controller is op: aight we gon make it better

[@bruschetta7711]

Nando

[@NovaMaster375]

Nando

[@hakjii]

Fernando alonso reference ???? 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣 what the fuck is a 33rd victory 🗣🗣🗣🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦

[@youngphil8766]

Who nando

[@sitofak]

Nandeo whendo controndo is op: aighto we gon make it bando

[@Tadiken]

Tm2020 has been slowly losing my interest for several campaigns now because of the prevalence of nosliding. Nadeo decided months before the release of snow car to make more and more campaign maps with noslide turns that are more difficult on keyboard, and it's just not for me. Wet tires on pavement so you have to turn 95%, pavement turns over 600 speed, quantum slides being op on every campaign map with dirt, grass, or plastic, it's constant and pervasive even with the stadium car.

[@Aquanaut_band]

really appreciated the images when he switched controllers

[@Owlrrex]

The fact that Nadeo released "The Action Key update" and still hasn't realized that _some_ UI element indicating which actionkey is currently enabled (if any) is hilarious to me. I do realize that TM traditionally has a rather minimalistic UI, and we wouldn't want it cluttered, but especially with car-switches being a thing now this feels relevant enough to be presented to the user. Edit: This is doubly true with the fact that Action Keys for Analog can be taken in/out of effect by a car-switch, instead of the user pressing the key. If an Action Key was on, but you're on stadium car, you wouldn't know until you hit a switch - and then it's going to be too late to adjust. A UI that tells you which Action Key is enabled, and whether or not it's suppressed by the car or not, feels direly needed.

[@MH-ru8sv]

I 100% agree. In the meantime there are 2 different open planet plug ins for it if you are on Computer. One of them you can color coordinate the indicators and see it out of your peripheral vision

[@yoyosheat]

You dont know what Nadeo is capable of in terms of UI design lol. Maniaplanet was awful about that

[@ModernAtomX]

ayo main channel upload

[@burntsharks8964]

Bro bringing back a dead joke

[@Pandize]

@@burntsharks8964bro trying to kill the vibe

[@markusTegelane]

not funny, didn't laugh

[@pokidev027]

funny, laughed

[@des4929]

@@burntsharks8964it's always been the joke ever since like over a year ago

[@littleboxes9662]

As a relatively inexperienced player trying to learn rally car and snow while still being pretty bad with the stadium car is quite tough to say the least. I initially started out playing keyboard as that is my preferred input device but especially after rally car I felt forced to make the switch to controller. I would like to be able to keep playing kb but playing the new cars with kb just isn't fun.

[@lovesmrjarrett]

That’s a really shitty new player experience for kb players. I feel like nadeo no like kb’s 🤣

[@LK25278]

Snow car with action keys is great to be honest, almost always just action key 3 and that's it, didn't try rally car yet though

[@valfareberbork8088]

new player here as well. I 100% agree with the new cars not being fun. i just try to unlock gold on a map with the newest desert car to unlock the rest of the summer campaign, but i feel like quitting cause i'm just frustrated at the slightest mistake costing me .5 seconds +.

[@Get-Native]

I agreee Car changes (aka transform races) are disorienting when the steering suddenly changes. Also I don’t understand action keys and at this point am afraid to ask

[@HISKILP]

Dont know if it is the correct order but: AK 1 = 20% Steering maximum AK 2 = 40% AK 3 = 60% AK 4 = 80% AK 5 = 100%

[@Get-Native]

@@HISKILP right got it! I am currently update testing (as always)trying both Logitech G920 and KB. Seems wheel is providing far more control.

[@ghomerhust]

@@Get-Native Granaddy plays with the wheel exclusively, and he's a master of tech tracks. i might try it cuz i have a full sim setup for iRacing

[@Get-Native]

@@ghomerhust I have watched his videos, he uses 180 degrees steering, with no FFB, on a G920. With custom sensitivity settings. I tried his settings and it felt awful. I use G920 with ‘ centering spring on’ in GHub, as it makes the car heavier and the wheel have some feeling. The game also does not support a liner throttle setup, I have mapped the pedals to work as on/off toggle but the game constantly accelerates if you leave the controls alone. Paddles work well for brake & accelerate. There needs to be more support for wheel users, but that would radically change the meta. A dd wheel with ffb and proper throttle pedal mapping would dominate this game, I’m smashing all my pbs on the winter campaign right now 😅 KB players are now at a massive disadvantage

[@Cracks094]

@@Get-Native I personally believe that KB has always and will always be disadvantaged for Trackmania. Yes you 'can' be competitive using a keyboard and you can learn certain tricks and techniques to make it work, but it never had and never will be comparable in terms of precision and control any analog device brings. If anything I believe that Nadeo trying to somehow force KB to be 'equally' competetive to gamepad/wheel/etc. will just hurt the game in the long run. Imagine in any other competition on earth, someone comes along with a completely different type of tool and there are people suddenly demanding that the sport gets changed in a way to accomodate them.

[@amyonthenet]

damn even Wirtual switching from KB to another input.. kinda feel like never gonna be able to really compete if i stick to kb

[@ghomerhust]

my left hand is already messed up from a skating crash over 20 years ago, but i could get 3/4 of each campaign done. now, i'm screwed. i cant handle so many changes of input in a race. i wasnt even able to play cyberpunk because there was just too many buttons i had to push with my left hand. the game is literally making it hard for disabled people, when before, we could play the game and get enjoyment out of it

[@maildaemon]

@@ghomerhustI'm sorry that your injuries make it harder to play the new additions to Trackmania, I hope you're still able to enjoy the game despite this

[@MH-ru8sv]

Sorry to hear that :( If you are willing to transition I might recommend buying a "left half keyboard" and then playing on it with your right hand. Its a very inexpensive way to get a ghetto gaming pad for your right hand. I use it and have enough space for the 3 directions, space for brake, 2 camera selects, and 4 action keys ( action key 2 for barely turning, 3 for rally, 3 and 4 for snow car and 5/reset for stadium). Its not going to win me any world records but its enough to have a lot of fun which should always be the goal anyway imo@@ghomerhust

[@Ahayeahishere]

​@@ghomerhust you got your right hand tho? I dont see a problem there honestly, how are you paying where your left hand is a problem? Kb or controller?

[@siberx4]

Nadeo: We want Trackmania to be fair and accessible to all players, not just those with fancy custom-rebindable peripherals, so you're not allowed to use custom curves. Also Nadeo: In order to be competitive you now need to buy both an analog-capable keyboard (for stadium and mostly-stadium tracks) and a flightstick/wheel (for all/mostly rally/snow tracks) so you can have good control on all possible track combinations.

[@Ahayeahishere]

Or you just get a controller...

[@siberx4]

@@Ahayeahishere Sure, the problem is not needing a controller, it's Nadeo's inconsistent communication about it. If they no longer want to consider keyboard a viable input method for Trackmania (especially competitive) then just come out and say that. Instead, they keep making all these noises about how keyboard is still important, yet their actions don't match up with that.

[@razorslazor6021]

i'll be honest, i've never really been the biggest fan of stadium. In TMT i played mostly Canyon and Lagoon. If TM2020 had Canyon i probably would have most of my playtime there. So to me, this is really exciting. More Cars, more Environments, New physics to learn. I am very happy with how this is going.

[@HH-mf8qz]

18:43 In the words of a wise man: "When you put the car sideways it actually goes that way." - Wirtual 2024

[@wearypeasful4409]

Rip Keyboard🕊

[@psyforestt]

just delete game dude after 15 years

[@jackillerkillaecaca]

I really don't like the no-slide direction the new cars have, especially the rally car, some tokyo drift kind of car would've been so much more fun instead

[@thundrr1929]

For you? TM² Canyon.

[@fabiofanf3e813]

​@@thundrr1929 TM² dead in the water.

[@Bruellhusten123]

Me: "I'm struggling with Neo Slides" Nadeo: "Here, eat this new rally car!"

[@FaithfulMC]

Completely agree at 34:00, it became too overwhelming for somebody who plays a few hours per month

[@yiker_]

I mean the idea of including the other cars is great but in my opinion they should have been separate like in trackmania United, that way your brain isn't weirded out when the cars physics suddenly change

[@Glennjamyyyn]

If i remember correctly, I think wirtual addressed this in a previous video when snow car was introduced, where he was happy with the integration between the cars for variety and the fact that nobody would play the new cars or jsut stick to the old thing they like if they aren't forced into the new car. But in my opinion people are more than welcome to just ignore maps with other cars in it so idk. I sort of agree with you, but the fun variety that switching cars gives is pretty fun, and it makes me way more willing to try something like snow car cos i find maps super slow and weird if it's only snow car the whole way through.

[@2MDP]

@@Glennjamyyynyeah forced to quit the game

[@hey_its_me_ur_brother]

I tried Trackmania for the first time today and quit like 30 minutes in because of sudden differences like that. Great for seasoned players I'm sure but if you're new you're busy with learning the mechanics in general yet are yeeted through several different cars, road surfaces and handlings every couple of seconds. How the hell am I supposed to get better like that.

[@DragN_H3art]

​@@hey_its_me_ur_brother respectfully, just play different maps, there's plenty of stadium-only maps

[@hey_its_me_ur_brother]

@@DragN_H3art I'm not sure what that means but the main menu just had the winter campaign and then a bunch of ads for clubs or cups idk. Is the "play this" campaign not the place to start? If not, then where?

[@CounterfeitDuck]

So. What needs to be done to action keys are: 1)HUD element to the active key. 2)Ability to set the value of each key with preset for each car.

[@fan87tw]

34%

[@CounterfeitDuck]

@@fan87tw Any value. Action key 1= 1%, key 2 = 15%, key 3 = 99% for example.

[@SasquatchPJs]

My favourite thing about tm2020 was that it was stadium car only. Having to play the other cars on tm turbo is what made me stop playing it. I now hate 2/3 of the tm2020 cars and I cba to check every map I play for car swaps. Such a shame.

[@burntsharks8964]

Keyboard is unviable now that they added this car and it’s sad because it’s the fact that our steering options are limited that hold keyboard players back, without being able to steer however much we want will cause many turns to be close to impossible while nose sliding. In my opinion the good stuff that came from this update is far less than the bad stuff just my opinion though

[@Spiritwonder420]

O please drama queen just use action keys

[@burntsharks8964]

@@Spiritwonder420I would if action keys didn’t only have 5 options to choose from

[@pythin2040]

I think controller has always been goated, and this update just shows it. With these new cars, the game will inevitable be controller-favored. At best, maybe we can hope for 10 action keys, but beyond that I dont think they should sacrifice the game's competativeness to make keyboard closer

[@krystofkupka9836]

​@@Spiritwonder420 I hunted first black track on KB.. first half of the map iam even or better then top5.. in the other half iam loosing almost 1 second bc action keys are not enough..

[@thundrr1929]

​@@pythin2040my brother in christ they had to nerf KB multiple times before but now that its controller that's better you don't mind? Nah, let's riot, dammit.

[@siberx4]

If Nadeo are going to do anything to improve action keys on keyboard, they should really do chording keys to set the turn limits. One hand on your normal arrows, four fingers on action keys (with your thumb still free for brake separate from the arrows), holding each one is twice as strong as the previous in terms of limiting steering. Since they're held, no confusion about what "state" you're in like with current action keys, and you end up with 50/25/12.5/6.25% steps and you can set any steering value from 100%-0% at the 6.25% step size. Can tap or release the smallest increment to make adjustments, rather than having to full tap on the main arrows going from totally on to totally off.

[@footbraindead5]

As someone who didn't really play the original Trackmania games with the snow car and rally car: This shit fuckin' blows, dude. These two "new"-old vehicles seem like mobile game cars slapped into a game that had unique and nuanced physics. Every time I turn into the snow car my motivation to play the track and the game just immediately vanish. Not to even mention what everyone else is talking about with balancing issues in devices. All that being said what I think means nothing I just wanted to vent that a game I loved is now so low on my radar I haven't opened it in a while.

[@utahnl]

It's like Nadeo wants to lose even more players, the price hike and snow car were bad enough already but now we're stuck with a shitty rally car too and apparently there's more unwanted cars on the way. Price hike aside, if they gave the other cars their own campaign then everything would have been fine but no, Nadeo needs to force it on everyone. The other games weren't unpopular because they cost money, they were unpopular because you had to pay for a game that was arguably worse than the free stadium games, even if they made the other games free it would hardly change their popularity.

[@lukapitkanen3333]

The physics seem weird. Everytime I see a rally car irl it’s drifting all over the place but here you are supposed to not drift at all? I’m noob in motorsports so maybe I’m wrong. This is definitely not that exciting to look at imo.

[@-Mintyy]

No you’re correct and it’s extremely backwards and dumb in this game. The stadium car (F1 variant) is good at drifting and sliding which is entirely backwards as well so it makes zero sense, they should be swapped.

[@Skullbrothers]

Its like GTA

[@abeetmameet]

Rally car looks great, SUPER hyped for Desert/Canyon Car in July! It handles like a nice mix of stadium and rally, very satisfying to do high speed drifts.

[@laku27]

You are mixing up desert and canyon cars. Desert car is the next car to be added, and you can’t do drifts with it sadly :/

[@abeetmameet]

@@laku27 oh :(

[@HISKILP]

I really want Island car

[@qazwer001]

Desert was my favorite, I'll probably cave and start paying nadeo when desert car is released. I do wish they had a larger shift in aesthetic like TM 1 and TM nations between environments.

[@redsolosendyboi3455]

14:00 now i gotta watch kung fu panda

[@HEYSNAGGLETOOTH]

13:58 kung-fu panda ah music in the bg

[@SylviusTheMad]

Before I learned how to drift with the stadium car (back in TM2 days), I would release and brake in any corner I couldn't fullspeed. I find that technique works really well with the rally car.

[@acesw6124]

2:24 YES! Nadeo completly does not touch adding a visual sign something to indicate a change

[@adicsbtw]

Here's my idea (it could be awful, I am but a humble chatter with only like 2 hours of playtime on the campaign lol) Two modes of play for keyboard: A) the standard 5 actions keys at 20% increments (or maybe go back to 10) B) (maybe more/less depending on testing) custom action keys that can be set to any value, but that value is used for all vehicles, and cannot be changed while driving You could either use the standard 5 action keys and tap tap to victory, or you could choose the more limited set and try to find the best two action keys that help the most with a particular track Basically, it's a tradeoff between versatility and precision

[@metacob]

So there are now two cars that punish steering. I think that's ridiculous, especially on a rally car that sounds like it should encourage drifting! Trackmania is taking a weird direction lately.

[@wulfleyn6498]

Fun fact, there are actually companies testing out flightsticks as ways to drive cars irl just because they allow for much better reaction times than a wheel.

[@bhtooefr]

Thought on the action key situation (as someone who's barely played TM2020, and last played when there were ten action keys, and has never actually been good at TM): so, IIRC, the original rationale for removing half the action keys was to prevent keyboard getting an unfair advantage over controller, because keyboard could be more precise than controller with ten action keys. While it'd absolutely change the stadium car, maybe applying the new action key model to stadium car would balance that, as it allows controllers to get more precision (and would also make things more consistent between the different cars). Also, I wonder if quantizing analog input devices to 10% increments would improve balance (although it would penalize the more precise devices, especially wheels and to a lesser extent joysticks) - there, fewer action keys would be necessary to hold angles on analog devices. There could also be some room for input smoothing in the game, especially with quantization - I'm guessing there's already some with keyboard which is why tapping works to an extent? (Additionally, might make sense to allow setting a default action key when transitioning to another car, or changing the input or gradually shifting the physics model or *something* to reduce the jumpscare effect.)

[@gui1521]

Tbh I've watched a few discovery and... almost no one had fun with this new car. Way too hard to control, far from the fun of "playing with 4 buttons" that made TM popular. At this point, it seems like pad players (ie most pros) can't have fun and compete

[@ghomerhust]

its kinda like when the 8 year old kid button mashed and beat the world champion in one of those fighting games. people with extreme skill are now worthless and have to change. it's a horrible thing.

[@sgthitonthings]

I don't get how Nadeo made so many changes around action keys (rip old easy ice wiggles) and never even proposed a simple slider. Action keys on a slider from 0% to 100%, end of problem

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

Glad to see the original TM cars and surfaces coming back to augment the stable. Gives mappers a lot of ways to add variety

[@oached]

21:59 i like how he talks about these people being really good if they played 2020 and they are on the leaderboard

[@Bloodrush414]

I think it’s great I have watched every single one of wirtuals videos and I don’t even play track mania but the content is so enjoyable to watch. And he posts late at night which works with my schedule.

[@designator7402]

You'd think they'd make the rally car _benefit_ from sliding, since on loose street compounds sliding can, and often IS, a viable strategy. You'd THINK that the formula inspired cars would benefit from NOT sliding, whereas the rally cars would benefit from it.

[@janvalis727]

Would it be possible to see keyboard overlay with action keys as well? Some graphic to indicate which one is active

[@vaulthunterfromterra4053]

The song playing during the Snally track is the vibe Trackmania needs.

[@n64p3]

As a very casual player I think adding the new cars is fine, but keep them out of the normal campaign

[@brunomcleod]

10:37 I like the way it goes back to the ground

[@asailijhijr]

If the game gets up to having 10 cars, it'll die. But if it stays at like five or six, it'll be a good game for a long time.

[@UnfortunatelyTom]

How cool it would be to have the island car added in the future as well. Always loved the fast pace, the drifting and cool scenery on those huge maps! I would love to see pro’s like yourself go crazy with that 🥳

[@BlacKnignt]

Wouldn't it be sick to get the trackmania canyon and Valley cars aswell? (and no they shouldn't be faster backwards :) )

[@AdamantAlex]

Can't wait to see the great wall of china map made from those new castle blocks.

[@nonamerider4953]

I know why they brought it back….renault showed their next electric car that is an homage with the style to the old group B car snd when you look at the backlights, this is nearly 1:1 the car from renault. Nice PR-Move from both sides 👌🏻

[@youtubeuser987]

18:43 Norwegian discovers the Scandinavian Flick™

[@robin1987100]

There is a plugin called action key hints (AK hints) which displays the current action key on screen. Just a circle with a 1-5. I think it would be really nice for viewers to see which key you're in. Or is it not allowed?

[@DaShikuXI]

If he used that on stream Nedeo would probably throw a fit after he called them out on the analog problem a few months ago.

[@gmdesert3810]

cant wait to see the Turbo car , or the "islands" car from WII , or " Coast" car from wii as well the island one wase my favorite with road looking like US FreeWay

[@MrSzarawar]

Snow car made me almost quit the game. Now I think this is it. I's been fun two years, but they overcomplicated it

[@13479449]

Kinda feeling the same way

[@paradoxfox2440]

you dont have to play snow or rally car maps you know

[@MrSzarawar]

@@paradoxfox2440 I know. I also know that snowcar is a part of a lot of maps in seasonal campaign and CoTD tracks.

[@paradoxfox2440]

there are countless community made stadium car only maps that you can download. I don't play much trackmania but I play beat saber and that game very similarly to trackmania has custom levels and I have spent more hundreds more hours playing custom levels than the levels by devs. with games like trackmania you are not limited to just in game content. there is so much more to the game than that.@@MrSzarawar

[@spinnenente]

the joystick is such a throwback. I used to play nfs2 with a logitech joystick in the late ninties.

[@TechX1320]

I remember also there being tools with United to block mix and car mix like they've added here to TM2020

[@BenRay47]

Why doesn’t nadeo just allow us to set any percentage for steering?

[@_NoDrinkTheBleach]

The over reliance on action keys kind of sucks. I shouldn't have to feel like an F1 driver making micro adjustments between every turn to play Trackmania.

[@maersel]

Yeah I personally have barely been playing the game since the release of the snow car, I would like to play a racing game, not play the fucking piano

[@mikekorovin]

Try drone transmitter as joystick. It's designed for fast and precise control. You can easily use it as gamepad without any external software

[@ДмитрийАвзалов-р2г]

great video! Especially i like the part where Wirtual plays powerstage map

[@DerCnark]

Whats your button mapping for the joystick? You maybe could map e.g. a thumb button so that when you play Stadium car, you have 100% steering even with the joystick, so the steering control would feel more like keyboard again!

[@DerCnark]

You could also add some action keys if you have some buttons left! :-D

[@leonschumann2361]

8:05 so rally dirt tracks are gonna be like rally on dirt?

[@Snarffu]

Use one of the base buttons for accel rather than the trigger. this way your steering hand can stay more relaxed and smooth.

[@typhoons0]

7:15 - little did he know...

[@SparkZ009]

What OST was he playing this stream? I saw it basically just loops over the entire stream.

[@petrjara7559]

So it's like they just said keyboard players to go F themselves and analog players press an action key and there is no difference for them. nice game design ig

[@ghomerhust]

yeah every TM game ever was made famous because of how easy it was to learn. now you gotta know gobs of keys just to make it through a campaign. it's horrible.

[@benjaminmead9036]

also what would a keyboard favouring vehicle be? is there one from united?

[@idek6652]

6:00 - 8:00 do I hear Save the world from undertale as background music?

[@-ragingpotato-937]

The new cars drive so horrendously bad. Like its not even a car anymore, the actions you have to do to get it to do what you want it to do are so ridiculous. Snow car going faster on ice when completely sideways? Rally car only turning on ice when drifting beyond 90 degrees? Swapping action keys ever corner else you just slide out? Stadium car was already wacky but at least the amount of tricks was manageable, now they're just piling on the completely unintuitive mechanics. a

[@lotrau]

Would be interesting if they could implement the mouse scroll wheel to increase/decrease steering strength so you can do it gradually

[@MarzenaLabedowicz]

hello wirtual I do some maps wwith new blocks and car and i discovered something crazy. By doing a uphill turn dirt block when u going up its better to get outside to inside line with more precision with no analog keys that u can set up for next sharpy one the same is from downhill but when u sliding down with rally car When i saw Doing inside line at grassydirt contact on downhill dirt turn U build up much more speed with smooth inside line U can Beat at 5s 180° turn u can save 0.3s to others I hope i help you in something I hope

[@p-l_guy7389]

What if keyboard had an action key that enabled input damping, so the wheels wouldn’t steer to 100% instantly, and would take the average input of your keyboard input over a certain amount of time, the larger this amount of time is, the more accurate turning can be, but with a loss in responsiveness. I don’t play trackmainia so I can’t really say if it would work, but most other arcade racing games use this and it seems to work. I also wanted to add that it isn’t great if it’s always active, but if it is an action key, you can have it only when you need it, and you could combine it with other action keys to get an even better result. I would appreciate if someone sees this and can tell me how well it might work.

[@k1rb0i]

I love that it kept the design of the Renault 5 Turbo. beautiful.

[@LosToastyToes]

Why does the rally car’s physics look so fucking broken 💀 it looks like it’s glued to the ground

[@lukecannon]

Really enjoyed this video! You deserve way more than 500k subs

[@The4stro]

if they add canyon, im getting this game

[@MassiveMapler]

Would really like to see a video on the WRs on these after a while

[@SPProduction02]

i love how the rally car is basically a non licensed renault 5 turbo

[@penguinactually]

i don't know trackmania stuff, why does wirtual always seem to miss apex's? is it faster for the cars to run a wider / weirder line like that?

[@_fudgepop01]

It kinda sounds like there should be an action key config for each individual vehicle so it auto-switches in-game

[@onlysmiles4949]

Ubisoft adding a completely artificial wait time to TMNF unless you bought United definitely sounds like a Ubisoft thing to do

[@Marzimus]

Trackmania...a game I played once five years ago but have intimate history of thanks to this channel.. 😅

[@vovacat1797]

12:50 Damn, I forgot how good United looks for its age. The new game is honestly overstylized and looks like a toy town. I wish they would add those other more naturally feeling environments but I bet they won't.

[@benjaminmead9036]

do you still have access to the normal dirt blocks as well?

[@Callsign_Jaeger]

I played the first track, realized I hated how the car feels and stopped right there. probably won't be touching this car ever again.

[@vanqy.]

hey Wirtual thanks for this video its nice to see that Snow and Rally made their way back into TM2020, but you get a point in this video why i absolutely hate this game: the Stadium car is so much worse and annoying in any aspect compared to the old 6 other environments we had, not to mention the TM² ones that came later. Yes, i even prefer Coast over Stadium. I. hate. Stadium. And im someone that started with TM Originals all the way up to TM² Canyon

[@asailijhijr]

How good is the new car at overwalls and other cutting techniques?

[@Galiwea]

Tbh i really dislike the new cars. After the snow car realeased i just couldnt get a hold of it and i didnt find any fun in it. I just sorta stopped playing and my standard access ran out so i just quit the game. I do beileve its a cool idea but for the wrong game. But im glad some people get to enjoy the new cars

[@nathan-lf7yc]

59:36 what song is this?

[@Tocsj]

Has nadeo said anything about bringing the canyon car?

[@abeetmameet]

Desert Car (same as canyon im pretty sure) is the last car they will be adding in July. Im very hyped as canyon in the only TM i really got into.

[@laku27]

@@abeetmameet Desert car and Canyon car are 2 completely different cars. Desert car is the one coming later this year

[@Hmmm1566]

Thanks!

[@asailijhijr]

Are the gear change speeds the same for every car? Has Nadeo promised that this will remain true for all future cars?

[@AndrewALineInTheSand]

Is there a weird joke where Wirtual is ignoring the fact that the best driving analogue device is a wheel?!?

[@krystofkupka9836]

As a not analog KB player it would be nice to see if you are able to do AT's with KB on Black tracks( if it is even possible )

[@liamjames1253]

I can't wait for the WR videos for rally car maps

[@georgplatzer8213]

The first TM i played was TM Wii and they had these cars too and my favorite i hope they add here is the highway car or what the name of it was with the raceing car (its on the cover of the game)

[@HISKILP]

It's the Island car ^^

[@L0Ls0ul]

4:14 Is Wirtual terrible at graphs? No matter what I think of, I can't find the meaning of the y-axis. Nothing makes sense given the two lines. I'd assume the most logical way to label the axes is x: input steering percentage and y: output steering percentage. However this clearly is not the case given the two lines have the same steepness in the first half.

[@R250_Tv]

This is why I gave up on TM2020 and went back to older games. You just can't compete on keyboard (+ the subscription model changes also made me quit)

[@rodd555]

using a flight stick on this would seem to be very unprecise to me compared to a thumbstick. hope he can get on his game with it. a smaller stick something inbetween a thumbstick and full flightstick maybe,. or like a small dial controller rather than a wheel

[@baba0rum]

The devs added a new car... That they apparently havent tried it... Not like the player position is taking half of the rear of the car and it's broken... Require too much effort, like making new snow car collision, allowing player to have custom action keys... In the next update maybe ? Who knows, right?

[@asailijhijr]

Oh man, imagine if a new car treated red plastic differently from blue plastic.