The New Two Face is Completely Corrupt | Batman Caped Crusader

[@icetide9411]

One thing I really like is how the design isn't completely split down the middle like before, instead his skin color is the same which makes him notably have two sides, but those two sides have a grey area in the middle. This Harvey is much more one person than previous iterations. He's two sides of one person, instead of two people in one body. He's extremely human, and so that lack of a clear split is very in line with thay concept

[@MarioMastar]

Agreed. this more realistic depiction makes him a lot more sympathetic and likeable as a character. It doesn't kind of rely on the assumption of what split personality is (which is extremely rare for a person to genuinely have 2 minds in one body, most of the time it is just mood swings), and thus they were able to tell a more realistic story with him that Batman fans could appreciate a lot more. Not relying on gimmicks.

[@beatlesfansam]

Great video. I liked this version of Harvey Dent/Two Face and his character arc this season. I'm glad they made him different than the BTAS version (which is iconic but wouldn't fit into this show's universe). The change in making his good side the physically scarred one was good, and I like Bruce Timm's reason for that. One thing you mentioned that I thought was especially important was his impact on Bruce/Batman at the end of the last episode. Looking forward to the video on Flass and Bullock.

[@MarioMastar]

Yeah, ironically all the other versions of Harvey were sympathetic from the start and became corrupt as a reflection of their inability to handle themselves, but I'd argue this version of Harvey is by far the most sympathetic. Even though he was an arrogant and corrupt man from the start and his true nature is a vengeful person. The fact that the acid caused him to relapse and consider himself a freak and failure kind of indicates he in some way "wanted" to get better but was just unable to represes the way he was before. Almost like he's corrupt because of the system he was part of, rather than because of some personal vice. I think having the scarred side of him be the side that laments and feels sorry for himself and others was also a nice touch. Reminds me of Gordy when he was about to die and asked Hawkgirl if there's an afterlife and Hawkgirl, not being TOTALLY heartless told him that there was. The scarred design really was an EXCELLENT metaphor to how we judge people for how they are at thier best, strong, prideful, but when a man is beaten to their worst, that's when the reality really kicks in and we might really see something get through to them before it's "Too late". It's a strong reason why people are against the Death penalty and prefer Life as with Life, it may give them a chance to return to being a good person and make up for their horrible sins and kind of shows people that just "killing left and right" shouldn't be the default option (even if some people are so wicked and evil they really seem like they deserve it, but the thing is, they're already captured and in jail. So short of releasing them due to ineptitude of the justice system, there should be no reason they cause a ruckus again.) A good visual metaphor there without spelling it out. Not that we need to feel sorry for corrupt politicians or lawyers, but that often what we want to do to them, the face that we want to punch might not still deserve it when it's already been punched to death. Otherwise, it makes justice look like the monster and misses the point of punishment in the first place, to prevent future crime, not justify beating someone to death for our own blood lust. I'd argue that while the other Two faces were more entertaining or interesting, this one definitely has to be my favorite for being the most "real". Not turning into a monster because he was disfigured, but turning remorseful as a result of it, knowing that all that happened and his spiral only happened because of the things he let happen around him. Rather than the AWFUL Vengence spree he went on because Batman saved him instead of his girlfriend.... Like talk about becoming corrupt cause you didn't win the lottery. It doesn't make me sympathize at all no matter how good he was before. But like said, at least BTAS's version was TRYING to do the right thing. I just personally have a problem with blaming his break down entirely on mental health issues cause it's a very difficult subject to handle properly and a LOT of terrible people use mental health as an excuse or defense for bad behavior when it's clear they're just saying that cause it gives them sympathy, rather than focusing on the ROOT cause of the problem. I think Harvey may have captured that, but the Caped Crusader's version is by far the most realistic depiction of mental health cause it doesn't use the mental health as the BASIS of his problems, but rather, as just an internal conflict based on all that happened to him that could be called "mental health" It's unclear of therapy could help him, but it was clear that the acid spray woke him up.

[@Gaymore16]

2 face is very like those actual acid attacks you would hear about a few years ago (i think it was a few years ago, it wasn't recent but there was one time a influx happened) It was a very huge thing a few years ago i believe in the UK and other places had very bad acid attacks where mostly women were attacked with acid in their faces, usually by men who wanted marriage, the men would do this to destroy the woman's chances of having a normal life and marriage, and unfortunately the community looks at the woman in shame because of disfigurment and because of old traditional reasons, it is very sad and awful, especially when the woman isn't even actually a woman but a girl, there was a incident i heard where a man asked for marriage i believe and the mom and girl didn't accept and the man broke inside the house did a acid attack as revenge, i don't know much about the causes of men getting acid attacked, only about women and the reasons i hear why they get attacked- sorry for ramble, harvey dent just reminds me of those awful influx incidents, don't take this 100% as fact, this is just me hearing and remebering stuff, im not well versed in this Edit: forgotten to mention that, in a way, Dent's acid attack was a way to humiliate and demean him and his position and to harm him, it was act of pure hate and violence like with irl usual reasons for acid attacks: Revenge, because someone did them wrong in some way or form, like something as simple as rejecting someone's advances or, in this case, because Dent went against Thorne, Dent isn't innocent, but he is still a victim update: found out one of the reasons men getting acid attacked, I believe it is land disputes, and individuals getting attacked over political affiliation i believe

Yes, from terrorists. It's still going on, just no longer covered.

[@NoirRaven]

I totally was a real thing. I think it mostly happened in 2014 to 2016, can I distinctly remember being traumatized by some of the images I encountered on Tumblr. Had to unfollow a few people for that but God, I've never forgotten it.

[@thatguyfromak5190]

It's such a horrible crime. No matter if the attacker is caught or even given capital punishment, the damage they have inflicted on their victim's life can't be undone. I can't imagine the strength one would have to live past that trauma and the shameful treatment of their own community in the aftermath.

[@Gaymore16]

​@@NoirRaven I remember seeing a photo once, It is very scary but it's even worse with the context, I don't know why there was a influx in 2014 - 2016 though, it's crazy how evil people can be they are willing to use acid on people Also, ty for saying the years this influx happened, I literally couldn't remember when this happened

[@anderson9244MLG]

Diversity at work LMAO 💀

[@Scrinwaipwr]

I was disappointed that they killed off Two-Face so quickly after he became. It's The Dark Knight all over again! But it was a good story with an impactful end so I cannot be totally mad about it. And of course it's better than not having Two-Face at all. Still, given that it was Thorne's fault that Dent became Two-Face, it'd have been very apt had Two-Face become Thorne's rival in the organised crime world. I guess stuff like that has (at least kinda) been done before and this version of the story is more subversive.

[@Gaymore16]

@@Scrinwaipwr Dent becoming a rival to Thorne to spite him is a very cool idea tbh, im sad Dent died as well, at least he had a big role in some way

[@samdubiner4109]

This is making me want to rewatch the episode. I really didn’t pay enough attention and now I need to rewatch it again with the new context. As always thank you so much for the content. Really love all of your videos.

[@SerumLake]

Definitely give it another watch. I really liked how they developed Harvey over the course of the season.

[@lpfan4491]

Honestly, there is some fun irony in a character not having a downfall because they were corrupt, but rather because they actually did the right thing when it matters. Anti-karma basically.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

A unique version of "Redemption Equals Death" then.

[@DariusExplains]

I think ep 9 with Two Face on a rampage is the Best Episode of the Series.

[@JBoehmGames]

I like that Two-Face is basically Batman's fault, and that Batman acknowledges this throughout the episodes. I like that Batman isn't "healthy" in this show and is often very toxic to those around him in service of his crusade. Seeing him grow out of that is a very enjoyable experience to watch, because it almost feels like we're watching him grow into who would eventually become BTAS Batman, someone that is genuinely compassionate even towards his enemies, but deep down still has those scars that will rear their ugly head once again when he gets into his 70s and 80s.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

They could of done that without Messing batman up.

[@burntgrahamcracker2866]

Won’t deny I enjoyed him snapping. I fully expected him to be incompetent but he was cleaning house everywhere he went and took on thorn single handedly. Can’t say I like the face though, it’s the teeth they don’t look lined up properly. I had an idea of two face having paralysis on the right side and wearing a mask with a neutral expression that way his real face could be more expressive and ironically looking less human over time compared to what he started as.

[@MarioMastar]

Yeah, the acid melted face was always grossly exaggerated to make him look like half monster, but I think this version being far more realistic (even than the ugly movie version) felt like it helped us relate to the character more. Acid wouldn't turn your skin green or your eyes reptillan, and you wouldn't survive if your skin was melted off entirely like the IRL movie version. Having it kind of with holes in it, messed up gums and torn skin but still there felt more like what'd really happen to a man who had that happen, and arguably made him more sympathetic as a character, since the point of this Two face was to be a lot more subtle about his split personality so we focus more on who the character is and not what his "gimmick" is. Thus making him a lot more .... "well written" I'd say.

[@powerist209]

I wonder if Carnival event might have changed his mind on going through with the deal after taking “campaign funds”. Like consider that he brushed off the orphanage manager’s concerns to get to Rupert Thorne and seeing them still waiting outside after his visit with him showing shame when manager told him about the missing kids.

[@vSide0]

I loved this version of Two Face. But do you think if they ever bring a two face back like this one do you think they should changed the quarter to be a regular one. I know the two headed quarter is iconic to him but I feel like having that 50/50 chance of harvey killing somebody or the other guy sympathizing. I just fell like this version might fit because other versions the bad side is the one that takes over Harvey this one the good side is trying to take over/make him understand. Just a thought..

[@SerumLake]

You never know! I was totally fine with this Two-Face not relying on a coin, but I suppose if they introduced another one it might feel contrived if he uses a coin.

[@MarioMastar]

@@SerumLake Yeah... I think Batman is trying to once again get away from the more silly gimmicky age and focus more on a more serious and realistic depiction of the characters while still retaining some semblence of the costumed mannerisms that the series is known for. It really feels like Caped Crusader is a love letter to BTAS fans who were kids then but have since grown up and thus want a more adult oriented version of the show. No more goofy gimmicks where a grown man insists on letting a coin manipulate people. The way he used the coin as just a pure mind game tool and ONLY used it against people who either he was trying to get one over jokingly or someone he's never seen before and never will see again was perfect. it made the coin look far less like a gimmick that'd be amusing to children and more like a weapon or tool he specifically uses to help make sense of a conflict. and the fact that when the victim didn't want the coin flipped, he shot the mugger in the leg and called the cops anyway was a solid metaphor to how indecisiveness can lead to a far worse outcome...or it could meet in the middle. Something any adult would deeply be thinking about, like "if I take the job, I'll have to move but I'll make more money, but if I don't take the job, my family stays but we remain in debt" and then you take the job ultimately, but the house near the new job site was taken while you were waiting and now you have to make a 3 hour commute each day to get to work. Despite the fact that you knew upfront you'd have to move if you took the job and still hesitated. Brilliant yet subtle metaphor.

[@aidanhever3369]

After the death of Harvey Dent and Barbara Gordon, who witnessed his death, I guess Commissioner Gordon will finally be able to fire Flass and send him to prison where he belongs.

[@dwayneduphraine7024]

Something I found interesting in the last two episodes was that a few scenes had Harvey suddenly lash out at Barbara or Bruce, before apologizing and claiming that it was "the other guy" saying it - but each time it happened, he was in a profile shot, with the left, untarnished side of his face in focus. Like he's shifting the blame for his outbursts, whether knowingly or not.

[@ghostwarrior3878]

2:47, the character design on the female reporter reminds me of the Fleisher Studios Lois Lane from the Superman Cartoons

[@SerumLake]

100% intentional, I’m sure of it!

[@ghostwarrior3878]

@@SerumLake I believe that too, if they could get away with that I bet they would have done a Clark Kent look alike

[@Noobtastic247]

BTAS was what demented two face as my favorite Batman villain, and this show had a really fresh take on him, I wasn’t so sure about the redesign when it was teased but the way he was portrayed in this show sold it for me, so well done!

[@burntgrahamcracker2866]

“Cemented”

[@Noobtastic247]

I meant cemented lol

[@nono9543]

One thing I think was handled well was people's reactions to Harvey Dent. Most people did not seem bothered by him after he was injured, it was mostly his own mental projections playing tricks on him. Plus Harvey was never one to settle with doing the bare minimum. There are many issues I had with Caped Crusader, but having the balls to make Two Face kind of a fence sitter turned self destructive impulse killer was pretty cool.

[@Compucles]

You know, even some relatively wealthy bachelors prefer apartments, because they don't need the extra space, they're easier to keep clean and organized without needing to hire maids, and you don't even have to keep a lawn mowed. Even rich couples and roommates will often live in penthouse suites.

[@dracone4370]

In episode 10 Dent sums up the relationship between Flas and Dent, and I'm sure the video analyzing episode 10 will dive into this and the culmination of the event the whole season has been building up to.

[@HappyVoidWanderer]

I love how this Harvys scar design is more somber and regretfull in contrast to the previous, more angry and menacing looks

[@aria5614]

His scarred half is such a sweetheart. It got me thinking about the BTAS episode where Harvey was gonna get this very important surgery to fix his face, and everyone was either trying to protect him or standing respectfully out of the way. I wondered how that would work with this new version.

[@1Sunny1_]

4:50 For those wondering why Two Face says queer it's because the word used to mean strange or unusual.

[@FrankReviews-x8s]

I love this iteration of 2 face seriously complex. The last 2 episode were 2 of my favorites thanks to him

[@DrMutran]

“Four of us against a tide. I’ll take those odds.”

[@jacktoma21]

As a big fan of the show Boardwalk Empire, I loved that they got Vincent Piazza to voice Tony Zito, as he feels just like his character from Boardwalk, Lucky Luciano. They even gave him the dropping eye that he had in the show (and the real life gangster had)

[@SerumLake]

That’s a cool tidbit I hadn’t picked up on, thanks for sharing!

[@DariusExplains]

The droopy eye, the Voice, I knew I recognized him.

[@claytopolis]

The dinner scene reminds me of that one version of two face who got plastic surgery to fix his scarred half but was convinced they had actually just scarred the other half instead and everyone was playing a cruel joke on him by pretending he looks normal now.

[@juicebox7372]

That's so interesting

[@Doomware]

Interesting that he chooses to rig the coin in favor of the "softer" punishments.

[@TonyZarkua]

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[@SerumLake]

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[@GPS_DS]

This has nothing to do with characterization, it’s purely asthetic, but I hate this two face design so much. I have hardcore tryptaphobia, and this design activates it on every level, and it’s also ANOTHER realistic Two-Face design, which I only ever thought worked in the Dark Knight.

[@mr.j3rs3y]

So do you think the design is actually bad, it’s just triggering for your phobia, or both?

[@kendi5391]

I very much dislike the redesign as well, it's just not as good as comics and BTAS had it. I'm sorry about your phobia.

[@GPS_DS]

@@mr.j3rs3y I think that outside of my personal problems, it is still a bad design. I really hate that we keep going with the realistic look for Two-Face in media where a more comical design would fit better. The realistic look worked for the Dark Knight because that was a very grounded and realistic take on the Batman world. It doesn’t work in something like Caped Crusader or Arkham, since both of those versions of Batman’s world feature a lot more fantastical elements, so having more comical designs for Two-Face would’ve worked much better, as well would’ve been more visually striking.

[@GPS_DS]

@@kendi5391 Glad to see someone who agrees! And thank you, but thankfully, it’s not a severe phobia, it just grosses me out really bad.

[@mr.j3rs3y]

⁠@@GPS_DS That’s completely fair. It’s not my favorite design for Two Face either, but I think it did a good job for what it was. The reasons I like it are because it feels more grounded, like “hey this could be someone I know, but I don’t think any less of them for any disfigurement or disabilities they may have gained due to an injury”. I also like how somber the right side of his face looks, much like how the “Other Guy” acts most of the time, his conscience and his guilt on full display. I don’t think it’s an amazing design or anything, but I like it for what it is! I’m sorry about your phobia btw.

[@srstriker6420]

You I thought his Two Face would look like the William Shanter version where he is green and has anyone seen the Batman 89 comics where he is Barbara’s love interest? Also there were a few versions of Harvey Dent who bad long before two face like in Earth one, Beware the Batman and Telltale even if you do save him.

[@ArkhamAsylum1505]

Telltale Harvey wasn't bad before he became Two-Face. He got injected with something that caused his other personality to surface. Harvey was still the good personality. The difference is that you can save him from physical disfigurement, but the Two-Face personality surfaces no matter what you do.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Love the twist that his twisted side has more of a conscious Ivey more of a violent one 😅 then his good side

[@homie37]

I actually like how the inverse of his scar was done, sure the burnt side was on the other side, but the personality is the same as the other versions of dent, the left side is meek, passive, and somewhat good, while the right is violent and hateful

[@twobladedswordsandmauls2120]

I also like he periodically acts almost exactly like he did prior to the incident (such as when manipulating Flass and Bullock), and when this happens neither side is given special attention. This implies that, like in the original DCAU, Harvey Dent is a three Alter System and not a two Alter System like in the Comics. He even refers to himself as "The Judge, Jury, and Executioner" when talking to throne, in direct reference to his third Alter, known as "The Judge".

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

There’s nothing wrong with changing a couple of characters.I feel like it’s actually a good idea,You can’t have the same thing for lunch every day sometimes you crave something new something unexpected that’s kind of the same with media nowadays.

[@bladeexe]

I did like the touch that Two face was not over the top disfigured like the usual two face design but more like enough dis figuration that he sticks out. Topped with the disfigured side looking so sad and regretful instead of showing angry all the time. Showing the other guy truly regretting his choices that led him to where he is now.

[@thomasmaguire8615]

Two face is definitely a favorite from BTAS. It is an interesting take on the character.

[@sharkjumpingwalrus6744]

One thing to note about two face in batman the animated series is that he assigned his bad half to his disfigured side to show his desire to be free of it, and that caused his other half to manifest through it. Beauty may be the perfect mask for monsters, but if you place negative emotions on something like a disfigurement, it will become exactly what you make of it. Our bodies take our own feedback in to consideration when trying to heal, and cursing something that was beyond your bodies ability to fully heal will always have psychological consequences. One thing I like about this version of Harvey Dent is that the other guy still manifests in the disfigurement as everything that Harvey Dent wants to be free of. It's just that this Harvey wants to be free of the timid nature held down by guilt we see in "the other guy".

[@BloodyBraces]

This is personally the most roughest design of Two Face I've ever seen. Sure there have been more designs more grotesque than this but I shudder at thinking about touching the holes in his face

[@arms9179]

The next to last episode of the season where Harvey went on his rampage was my favorite one. It was certainly tragic, but also just very well done seeing him totally snap.

[@blackkitty369]

I like how Dent sees through Bruce's facade when he calls him the biggest pretender.

[@CeHee123]

I know some are mad they excluded it, but honestly I was so glad they didn't do his stupid coin gimmick, instead making it so he'd offer, but it would always land on heads. So really it was up to him, but hes still fighting himself so whether someone dies can still go either way.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Feel the same. They didn’t make Harvey rely on it like a crutch, it was treated as it should have been: the tool in his choices. Very refreshing. It’s not a weakness that can be exploited. Only other time I think I’ve never seen Two-Face so reliant on the coin was the William Shatner portrayal of Two-Face.

[@nightenobsidian825]

I really did like this verson of Harvey so much, Diedrich Bade did such a amazing job voicing him. I still cannot belive that he also voiced Batman in The Brave And The Bold because they almost sound alike but not too much. Caped Crusader's Harvey is now my third favortie verson of Twoface of all time. Number two being The Long Halloween/Dark Victory verson and number 1 being BTAS verson. specking of The Long Halloween they referance Twoface's line from the comic; Caped Crusader: "Sorry, but i cant resite a two for one speciel" The Long Halloween: "A two for one speciel" Last thing i want to say is how that this verson of Throne felt way more threatening over his BTAS verson. Overall i really did enjoy all of Batman Caped Crusader and i hope we will get a season 2 sometime in the future.

[@caldw615]

I think he does a great job in The Brave and the Bold's more "serious" episodes that contrast how the rest of the show is done (not that I think the more campy episodes are bad mind). Chill of the Night being a standout episode about Batman confronting the man who murdered his parents while having the voices of Justice and Vengeance (voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill!) whispering in his ear as he pursues the mugger. Especially when he unmasks himself to the mugger and tells him he was the child of the couple he shot years ago. The mugger in a panic fleeing to tell the other big name Gotham villains that he is the reason Batman exists only for them to basically turn on him for it.

[@nightenobsidian825]

@@caldw615 yeah i saw a clip from that ep. Ive never watched The Brave And The Bold but i plan to. But im planning to watch all of BTAS and then Batman Beyond first but i havent gotten there yet because ive been pretty busy with other stuff and work.

[@caldw615]

@@nightenobsidian825 I would recommend checking it out. It's a massive love letter to all things Batman and comic books. It features a log of more obscure characters who haven't featured much in movies or previous shows and even the episodes that don't focus on Batman specifically are very creative. BTAS and Batman Beyond are good stRting points though to see where a lot of Batman media has been influenced.

[@darthdigital666]

Why do I suspect that this series will end with Bruce / Batman making the ultimate sacrifice to save the City? His estate will be sold / liquidated, and the wealth distributed among the people... ...Barbara will become the new D.A. ....Motoya will become the new Commissioner. ... and pardon Harley Quinn naturally. ...and the Penguin will becme the mayor after realizing that it was an unfair patriarchy that drove her to a world of crime in the first place.. 😇

[@dreamer9398]

Really like the portrayal for Two Face. But really upset how they killed him off. Also wish gave the “Other Guy” name.

[@darkAwesome100]

I really like how he offered to flip for the muggers life using his two-headed coin. In that scene, it didn't look like he was trying to be in control, it looked to me more like he was almost asking someone to stop him.

[@AltUTimegod2006]

The problem I have with this two face is strictly his design he looks like a withered animatronic from FNaF with that scarring.

[@Grayson-tk5hn]

"WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!/1!?!?"-harvey dent

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[@erika3016]

Another well done video essay. Hats off to you sir!

[@SerumLake]

Thank you 🙇‍♂️

[@ArkhamAsylum1505]

I think that this version of Two-Face was very interesting, but I was dissapointed that he won't appear in the future. And I think that's my biggest gripe with the show. The villains are intersting, but it looks like they'll be one and done villains that won't appear in the future, except maybe Catwoman and Harley. There is no way Penguin will get out of jail, and her criminal empire is done, and I doubt we'll see Onomatopeia and Gentleman Ghost again. Maybe Clayface returns, but I don't know in what capicity they can use him in the future.

[@pinstripe4254]

I didn’t really get the vibe that Harvey had DID. To me it felt like Harvey had some form of bipolar disorder. Although I might just be projecting. My experience with it has actually been quite similar. Rapidly changing levels of aggression, feeling like you’re a different version at points. Violence followed by guilt. Never to this extent for me ofc but it all seems super familiar

[@lpfan4491]

Bipolar-inspired "split personalities" in media are honestly mistaken for DID way too often. They are just not the same. It gets especially silly when writers themselves mistake them and retcon one into another(An example that I picked up on fairly quick but the relevant community somehow never did is a character in Fire Emblem Three Houses that was, probably unintentionally, retconned in the next release after). Though I guess it is weirdly true to life because actual bipolar was often mistaken for DID in the past too.

[@pinstripe4254]

@@lpfan4491 lol true. It’s just Harvey seems perfectly aware of what he’s doing. Even when he saves Barbara it feels like he genuinely cares. It’s just a split second later he doesn’t understand why he did it

[@caldw615]

​@@lpfan4491I think the fact it's called a "split" personality is why so many get it confused.

[@lpfan4491]

@@caldw615 I mean, it can't be, right? The term hasn't been in common usage for a few years because the old meaning was shifted to DID and the "new meaning" for the bipolar-adjacent writing trope was coined by me I'm pretty sure.(Which is why I put it in quotes. It's not an "official" term)

[@caldw615]

@@lpfan4491 It's not an official term but it is still heavily associated with it. Hell, the most famous examples that stick in people's memories about the "split" personality concept are clearly leaning into that idea. Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde is probably the most infuential example and it went on to inspire other famous characters like The Hulk and Two Face. Even in modern movies the film "Split" even has the word in the title too.

[@docweidner]

I wonder if they will regret killing Harvey. Seemed like there was a lot of potential there, but I do have to remember this is a different approach than BTAS, a lot fewer episodes per season, so the news to reuse characters is reduced.

[@SerumLake]

I suspect they'll have lots of other characters to fill up the air time

[@Kake_the_Cartoon]

To me it seems like Harvey Dent's personality broke in half leaving two distinct personalities with one side being vengeful and seeking out his own justice, and the other being his kindness, the Harvey Dent that wanted to help people, the broken part of a broken man as it were. Though I might be echoing what you said in your video.

[@animesjogoseseriesclassica8282]

The newest Batman adaptations almost always make Harvey corrupt from the start. Which to be fair, is more realistic but is a downgrade for the character and his tragedy. Like when they made Mr. Freeze a crazy stalker of Nora in the comics. That was a terrible choice.

[@QueenMonoChrome]

I think, in its own twisted way, Harvey's tragedy was the most freeing moment of his life His unscarred side felt like a mask was lifted because he no longer has the societal expectations a DA running for Mayor has to live by so he can finally say and do what he has always wanted. He's already a 'monster' so what's the use in acting 'normal'? The Other Guy however feels like...I dunno, on my binge watch perhaps because it went into the night I felt like he was the physical embodiment of Harvey's empathy finally forming because he was caused by the first time his nature left him with a long lasting concequence if that makes any sense

[@Mikon595]

A big distinction I'm really enjoying about CC vs BTAS is that in CC, the villains are helping Batman grow and evolve into a more compassionate person while BTAS had Batman becoming more cynical as time went on. In CC, Batman has started off being just an agent of "The Mission", but as it goes on and he sees the paths and mistakes of the other villains, along with his own mistakes Batman is becoming more empathetic. At least one small step at a time.

[@K3L0F3ARTH]

I think the best part about this series is how it took the comic continuity and bastardized it (But in a good way) I find that the show itself is perhaps one of the best, and the best indication of this is Penguin. Of all the characters in this show, she was the most changed, and I love it. I had a horrible mother and I found myself hating Penguin almost as much. All in all, a good show. If I could make a recommendation, I think that a video looking into Flashpoint Paradox's Batman... for the funny of course

[@SerumLake]

Never say never! Maybe when I’ve run out of DCAU stuff to talk about… 🤔

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Its great

[@michaelandreipalon359]

1:07: Ironic. 1:33: Is it half though? Seems like a 1/3rd. 1:55: And also to simply tee Bullock and Flass off, hehe. I would do the same, really, were I a lawyer. Say what anyone will about Caped Crusader, at least we FINALLY have a real good origin depiction of courtroom Harvey Dent getting the acid. Sayonara, non-novelization movie version of Batman Forever!!! Perchance this Two-Face should be an example of "He Really Can Act" for Diedrich Bader? Batman's manipulative luring in Ep. 8 brings into mind similar characters like the Medicine Seller from Mononoke. That anime's "Noppera-Bō" arc sure showed off the guy's cunning. The hysterical bandage removal moment quickly reminds me of The Invisible Man 1933. 8:07: Thank goodness he didn't do something really depraved enough to render a gory discretion shot. Heh, guess that coin is working on BioShock: Infinite rules. Pity, though, since I prefer BioShock 1 and 2 more for many reasons. 12:04: The proverbial hydra, eh? Too familiar, would rather prefer the "entropy wins" aspect shown in Babylon 5's penultimate episode (assuming "Sleeping in Light" is the true Season 4 finale) "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars". 12:41: A loose interpretation would be "Rousseau is Right". Casually Comics in her "Game Over for Owlman!" video is right. Batman with a gun is quite a fascinatingly jarring sight in any mythos. Overall, to quote Hellsing Ultimate Abridged, I bet this Harvey Dent was a good boy, and it is a shame he became such a s**t man. Oh, and this seems to become one of your best analyses, SL.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Interesting how Harvey’s fall in Caped Crusader had and opposite effect in Batman than the comic version. When Harvey became Two Face in the comics (more specifically, the Long Halloween storyline) it result in Batman becoming more darker, cold and isolated from others. It was only when he adopt Dick Grayson that he start recover and open up to his new partner. In Caped Crusader, Harvey’s transformation helped Batman to begin to open up and accept the allies in his life Alfred, Montoya and the Gordons.

[@robinschicha4712]

I still think they should have give the character a different name (like George Blake for example). There are some expectations with this iconic character. If you remove the famous 🪙 flip between good and evil, it‘s just not Two Face anymore… at least for me. What did you think? 🤔

[@sonicguyver7445]

I just wanted to throw it out there how great the creation of Two-Face was in BTAS. At that time all I knew about Batman came from the 1966 reruns and the two movies. So I had no idea what was coming. To me Harvey Dent was just another character filling a role, like Mayor Hill or Detective Bullock. Not in every episode but a character they would always bring up when needed. Plus the attempted revenge killing by Poison Ivy really cemented him as a side character that would just always be there. But I do appreciate the fact this show is clearly taking the ideas of these legacy characters but clearly blazing their own trail with them. It makes it that much more exciting to watch when you can never be sure what the outcome will be for even established characters.

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

I know this is a little out of your wheel house, since you focus on the animated series and movies, but have you ever thought of comparing the different video game versions of Harvey Dent or other villains compare to one another? Like, I know Tell Tale is long gone and dead, but I enjoyed how the game allowed the player to have a relationship with Harvey, stone walling him with silence or joking with him and being a genuine friend, and you can even get a Two Face who doesn't have the physical scars but still becomes broken inside.

[@nemowindsor8724]

Brilliant summary of Two-Face. I wasn’t entirely on board for the show as a whole, but Two-Face was a notable achievement and a depiction I really dug. I still think they could’ve done a bit more with him before they cut him loose, but at least Harley will return later to do further development. This is easily an all time favourite rendition of the character for me, and I liked how they inversed his sides and changed the motif of the coin to actually keep its original purpose - as you say, illusion of choice, but also the illusion of two faces. There’s really only one face, one persona, and the whole concept of the false face is just that. I personally don’t think there was a split personality in this version. There’s just two sides of Harvey, but both are Harvey. The acid just burned away the persona to reveal the real Harvey underneath.

[@fnafbendyranger123x]

Two face was always my primary favorite villain, I always enjoy every iteration that emerged (media wise at least) from the iconic black and white design in the animated series to the underrated telltale series, to the excellent portrayal Aaron Eckhart in the dark night. Mainly because he was probably the villain Batman sympathizes the most with given, I always felt like he should have been the dark Knight's arch nemesis instead of the joker, as he and Bruce always had some history together, and seeing his friend become the very thing he tried to fight against really is a beautiful sense of irony. This version while it's on the other side, I actually looked up acid burns and it seems to be the most realistic, despite the holes, and this version Harvey went through both sides of the famous quote, from him slowly becoming the villain by murdering each of Thorne's men one by one (because even if you kill someone evil, it's still murder) and eventually realizes what he's doing and decides to testify in court, and eventually sacrifices himself to save Barbara. You were a great man dent. Godspeed you scared bastard. Can't wait to see what joker is like in season two. And maybe Bullock has a redemption arc in it, as it appears to be implied.

[@nicolasbanidol2371]

Finally the Flass video !

[@TheRabbitPoet]

the whole switcheroo between the evil side and the good side doesn't really work for me because, from what I understand, there is no real personality with DID. all personalities are born from a traumatic experience and develop at the same time, just one tends to be in control more often than the others to me it's still the same "evil alter" trope, but with a new coat of paint

[@fun2building]

What did you think of Batman: City of Madness? I really liked how it used Two-Face

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

Amazing!😊🤗🫂🍟🍔🍕

[@critch7514]

Fun fact, Diedrich Bader, the voice actor for Harvey Dent, also voiced Batman in Batman: The Brave and the Bold

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

Amazing!🤩

[@nemowindsor8724]

I really feel like Flask will turn into something special at some point…but who knows.

[@liamshaughnessy6246]

Heck yeah this is gonna be interesting 🧐❤😀😁🤬😳😬🎭!

[@blackkitty369]

I think he was the best part of the series. I love his descent to madness!

[@thebard5019]

harvey dents face is too damn small for his head in BTAS

[@Radicalbeast]

pretty sure it's been confirmed 2 face will return

[@georgekostaras]

I like that the handsome side is the evil side of him. that feels right

[@panrandom2127]

I hate new batman show but new two face desine i love

[@lonekirin905]

I just noticed the desfigured half of Dent looks sad

[@seansmith6255]

Oh no they made dent corrupt Goddamnit Stop doing that

[@liamshaughnessy6246]

Drama 🎭and again very bleeding 🩸plus versus 🆚equals 🟰 🤬🤬bleeping interesting 🤨as well!

[@marktheshark7588]

Another awesome video Serum👍

[@nicolebowman8509]

"I Believe In Harvey Dent!"

[@Ilikebugs2464]

Harvey is so handsome oh my god

[@CountCrane2065]

3:39 you could say he put a Dent in his campaign. I'll get me coat.

[@SerumLake]

Ouch...

[@kidz4p509]

1:10 This made me giggle.

[@takenname8053]

SUPER NICE

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

I feel bad for Harvey.

[@josepbuigues1336]

If you had to do villain profiles from either one of these two Batman shows, which one would you do first? The Batman or beware the Batman?

[@SerumLake]

Tough question! If the Batman failed to get enough views when in pretty certain Beware The Batman will struggle too (which is a shame because I enjoyed it!)

[@josepbuigues1336]

@@SerumLake maybe for your next video you should do a Batman TV shows ranked worst to best?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

The former. The latter loses points for being blatantly unfinished.

[@Valhallangeo]

I haven’t watched the show yet but from what I’ve seen, and I don’t mean to be offensive I’m glad I have t seen too much woke, they never push anything like a lot of new shows do sure the Gordon’s are African American but they don’t push it on too us like going HAY LOOK WE ARE BEING REPRESENTATIVE they simply make good characters change a few things and have representation but they don’t push it and try to be like hay look we’re cool you should watch it. EDIT: similar to the legend of Korra, by the end sure she was lesbian, BUT THEY BUILT THAT UP BETWEEN HER AND NAMI, throughout the show and didn’t drop it on us, and they made each character unique and likable and didn’t make them being representative of a certain minority their only character unique character trait

[@rosenrot234]

Dent doesn't have DiD in this. Its a split personality. That's different.

[@jessetorres8738]

How did this Batman series get 1 of the most important aspects of 2 Face wrong by having the right side of his face be melted from acid instead of his left like every other version?

[@FrozenJack2007]

seems like it was a choice not a mistake

[@CMGThePerson]

That was on purpose.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

It was deliberate. It still made the left side the darker of the two personalities.

[@andrewleduc3364]

How Anyone Can Like This Version Of Two-Face Needs To Be Questioned... Harvey Is Supposed To Be Gotham's White Knight, Giving Hope To A City Gripped By Crime (It's The Whole Point Of His Character) This Harvey Is A Sexist D-Bag Who Joins Thorne Once His Campaign Runs Out Of Money (Which Harvey Would Never Do, He'd Rather Die Than Ally Himself With Thorne) It's Only When Thorne Steals Harvey's Psych File He Finally Loses His Sanity... Also, Unlike BTAS, His Friendship With Bruce Wayne Comes Out Of Left Field, In BTAS His Friendship With Bruce Wayne Was Established In A Prior Episode Where Here, He's Already Become Two-Face When It's Established So What's The Point Of That? Worst Adaptation Ever, End Of Story

[@FrozenJack2007]

question: whats the point in doing the same thing over and over again?

[@EMTeves]

​@@FrozenJack2007because that's the defining trait of the character, he is a good person turned into a Monster by tragedy. Harvey Dent been a corrupt polititian is like having Batman Killing people with guns. It just feels wrong.