The new WITCH, more surprises, + a couple things I'd fix in the Pathfinder REMASTER!

[@grendelicious]

Gamemasters, brace yourselves for all the dark, brooding nephilim with 8 page backstories

[@AncientMarbleTree]

The rogue Nephilim, and the 16 page that they come with scares me more.

[@aralornwolf3140]

Why worry about that when you could have the 24 pages of a heroic Nephilim philanthropist?

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

50 pages from the Eldritch Trickster Rogue with a Starless Shadow Witch archetype and another 8 pages for their dark-furred familiar.

[@kenkoopa7903]

RETVRN TO TRADITION

[@nataledesposito2075]

At my table we have a rule , if a bg is longer than 2 Microsoft word pages the master is morally right to read only the first and last page . This was due to one time when all of the players wrote BGs about 7/8 pages and got tpk by 2 fireballs in the second session

[@davidhigdon794]

To address some of your concerns about The Resentment's familiar ability, "conditions" are discrete effects in PF2. There is a conditions appendix in the CRB on pages 618-623 (according to AoN; too busy to redownload the pdf right now). Using the Synesthesia example, it would only extend the clumsy 3 because it's the only part of the spell that is a condition. Also, it would not (usually) affect conditions like prone or sickened, because they do not use durations. I did however find a possibly overpowered combo: IF you can get an enemy "stunned for 1 round" they can be locked out of the fight as long as the Witch and their familiar can maintain it. Luckily, every effect on the occult spell list that can stun for a round also has the incapacitation trait. I think another balancing factor is that, against intelligent enemies, doing this will make at least the familiar a high priority target. After looking into it, I'm not sure if it's overpowered or not. I'd need to see some actual play. At any rate, I hope this was helpful and not more confusing! Keep up the great work!

[@7heHierarch]

"Stunned for one round" doesn't actually even make sense. Stunned always has an associated value and lasts until you regain actions. That's an oversight in Color Spray as far as I can see So technically I don't believe Stunned even has a duration. Edit: I double checked this and I'm wrong very rarely it does have a duration which just means you cannot act at all until the duration is complete

[@marshallharck]

​@@7heHierarch Even then, I believe it would act like "Enemy Stunned 3" -> "Witch extends" -> "Enemy Stunned 4" -> "Enemy turn starts, Stunned 1" -> "Witch extends" -> "Enemy Stunned 2" -> "Enemy turn starts, no longer stunned". Which is definitely powerful, but not locking the enemy completely out of the turn every round.

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

According to some online folks, you can Cast a Spell even if a target. Which sounds like a metagamey way of Sustaining a non-hex effect. Not sure if I fully agree. It sounds like legalistic pedantry.

[@DakonBlackblade2]

@@7heHierarch Stunned can have no associated value and instead have a duration, in which case the target loses all their actions for the duration. This skill is not OP because familiars are super fragile, everything involving your familiar will have a risk reward factor, you are exposing your familiar and it might get killed. It works kind the same with animal companions for example, they aren't really very good at staying alive so the player needs to be smart about how they position and utilize their abilities.

[@7heHierarch]

@@marshallharck the ability specifically says it "only extends conditions with a timed duration (such as 1 round or "until the end of your turn")" So you could only extend Stunned if it was a version of Stun with a duration rather than an associated value.

[@Zedrinbot]

I suspect the intention for the Resentment is that it extends the effects of the hex specifically, not simply any and all conditions affecting the target. Alternatively as someone else said, if I'm wrong and it does affect all conditions, it'd only affect conditions that have an actual duration so it wouldn't affect things like prone.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

ADDITIONS/ERRATA: -The Resentment's familiar ability does not work says it only works against conditions WITH A DURATION, so that allows us to proscribe it to what are classified as Conditions in the book. That addresses some issues but not the MAIN problem: making a foe Clumsy 3 for an entire fight after it SUCCEEDS on its save, by spamming hex cantrips, seems very strong. Also, Blinded and Stunned are conditions that can be imposed on some spells' successful saves. (And the Resentment extends ALL conditions, not just one.) The heightened Sleep spell has incap and requires a failure, but can impose the Unconscious condition. -The counter-play is to kill the familiar, however! It would kind of lead to the dynamic we see in 5e fights, where the hurting the caster to break their Concentration becomes part of the meta. We'll see if this leads to fun in play and is less broken in practice... Which might mitigate it... but still not balance it against the other Patrons imo. It still seems much more powerful than the abilities from the other Patrons. A conditional Frightened 1 when your Familiar is concealed is decidedly less strong than the ability to impose Clumsy 3, Blinded, Slowed, Unconscious, and Stunned for an entire combat. -Spirit Familiar and Stitch Familiar are the FAMILIAR using the 2 actions. So it only costs the Witch ONE action to Command the familiar to do it! -Witch's Bottle is already in the Advanced Player's Guide and I'd just never read it before lol! But you can be more flexible with it now, with how recovering Focus Points works. -Jason Bulmahn says it very quickly in the stream, but if you want to craft a Common item, no formula is required. No inference necessary! Thanks to the commenter who pointed this out!

[@michaelsullivan8234]

You can't recover the Focus Points dedicated to Witch's Bottle until it's used, I'm afraid, per a line in the feat description. It's really not a great feat.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

​@@michaelsullivan8234It's more accessible because focus points can be recovered generally. I'm not making any argument about whether it is a strong fear here either, just to be clear

[@Kiaulen]

I wonder if the swim change was in response to Pack Tactics reading the non-combat example in the rulebook. His words: "If I rolled a success on my swim check and didn't get across the river, I'd assume the GM was trying to drown me." Really love these changes, I'm excited to get the remastered core rules in print form.

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

Oooh Ronald, does that mean you’ll finally make that Witch-only party! Can pit iconic witch characters against the Hocus Pocus hags! (Sabrina and Salem, Kiki and Jiji, Merlin and Archimedes, Harry Potter & Friends, etc..)

[@Tenuto40]

In case it wasn’t clear: Spirit Familiar and Stitched Familiar are *familiar activities* not the Witch. So you can Command your familiar who then uses this activity. A 1-action blast with a bunch of other benefits usable every 10 minutes is damn awesome! Mix with the Elemental Scamp, a Witch’s familiar can have some significant magical battle presence (and there’s also the Spellcastin familiar ability or use the Spirit Guide specific familiar).

[@Nairneh]

Thanks! I love how organized you are in your videos.

[@docopoper]

I think the simple solution to fix the Leap action is to just let you jump any distance up to your check result.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

Yeah, I think most people would intuitively just want to say "You can Leap as far as you rolled." I think what the RAW adds is a crit fail result, which provides a consequence for rolling 10 or more under. So I'm inclined to allow the 2.0 and Remaster versions in my games.

[@nickputney605]

Ronald, not going to lie to ya mate. The Rugged Look works for you! Adds some extra gamer charm, take a +1 Charisma bonus there bud!

[@kevinbarnard355]

Agreed.

[@einkar4219]

The most interesting thing about Nephalim is that there is nothing that stops you form having both celestial nad fiendish heritage

[@hashemx1ify]

I think only your backstory You can easily create the forbidden love child of a demon and an angel But if you're playing a strict, I have demon blood in my heritage you'd stick to fiendish options

[@daftlife21]

If you are referring to the level 1 feats at page 79, they are all lineage feats, you can only have one lineage feat.

[@einkar4219]

@@daftlife21 I am not referring to lineage feets because you aren't forced to take them

[@daftlife21]

@@einkar4219 yes, then I agree. I think it also poses an interesting paradigm in place that Celestials and Fiends are not so different after all.

[@davidhigdon794]

​@@daftlife21Looking at the second page of feats The Rules Lawyer showed, nephilim have a 5th level feat that lets you choose a second lineage. I find that interesting, as that makes them unique among the versatile heritages (assuming the others don't gain something similar).

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

I think a mild frustration I have with the remaster is how it really is an opportunity to make the game easier and more expressive for new players by condensing or combining more features and activities. Hell, a majority of the Player’s Core 1 is casters, and the rigid spellcasting is kinda frustrating for some players. I love the new features and language changes across the board. They emphasized the “Rumpelstiltskin Principle” where naming a thing can give clarity and story, and they’re doubling down on that hardcore here. Love it.

[@jackthepres]

Newbie here, what do you mean by rigid spell casting?

[@Vigilluminatus]

Frankly, I would have generally loved for PF spellcasting to be more like feat-based highly thematic Spheres of Power stuff to differentiate itself from D&D. But well ...

[@ponytail336]

@@jackthepres They mean functions like spellslots and memorizations that are far less intuitive than something like, say, a mana system or some such.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

@@VigilluminatusI see the desire, but we're probably entering new whole-numbered edition at that point. Also, I think like with ability scores with 2.0, I'm not sure the player base is ready for that much change quite yet.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

@@jackthepres There is a pretty old school organized spellcasting method of Vancian casting, where each Spell you have is fixed and prepared. So in those prepared cases if you have three 2nd Rank Spells, you list out those three ahead of time. And then learning the same spell at different Ranks for some spellcasters must be learned separately. So if you know a 2nd Rank summon undead spell, you don’t automatically know a 1st or 3rd Rank version. I also kinda just hate Vancian magic (the organized spell levels / ranks system), and kinda wish more magic felt like magical powers you just know (the psychic and kineticist classes are pretty good at giving this fantasy). It kinda reminds me of how many “How to Play [Fictional magical character] in D&D!” videos are kinda trash since these games use a spellcasting system that doesn’t feel like actual superpowers or supernatural abilities.

[@Nagalipton]

Thank you so much for this in depth preview. As the GM of my group I've been preparing for some of the changes to occur mid campaign, and this was a treasure trove of screenshots and type ups being sent to my players as needed. Everyone is excited.

[@drgray6073]

What I really want to see is more artifact archetypes. Absolutely loved the gelid shard from Treasure Vault, would love more like it

[@velinion1]

The Nephalim being "any planar ancestry" is what AD&D 2e did with the Tiefling - it was ANY planar bloodline, be it angelic, water elemental, devilish or demonic. I think it had a d100 table to roll on for odd physical features, some of which were pretty freakish. Tiefling had gotten more and more specific with each edition since. Frankly I'm glad they brought back an umbrella term.

[@jimbob929]

I think the thing about Synethesia and Slow is that they are some of the only debuff spells that function against boss fights. While the encounter building rules are good, it does seem like there is a trend in the community to perceive an encounter with a single enemy to be much harder than one with many lower level enemies. There are TONS of AoE spells that allow spellcasters to specifically counter group fights, how many single target spells are there that are effective against boss fights? They basically have to have no incap and a potent success effect to make the cut, which makes for a very short list. Nerfing Slow and Synethesia to have incap would further widen the gap between solo and group fights and make the encounter balance system less accurate. If anything we need MORE spells designed to counter bosses so that players have more choice within that space, then you could nerf Synethesia (but not by giving it incap, incap should only go on AoE's imo, maybe remove the flat checks).

[@scottmyers909]

The sheer difference in action economy mean I usually see a small group of enemies (2-3) be a harder fight than a singular boss. A group of 5 players has 15 actions per round, and a single boss only has 3. This makes it super easy to stack debuffs and conditions to simply annihilate the boss as long as good teamwork is being used. A group of 3 monsters would have a total of 9 actions vs the party’s 15 thus making for a tougher fight. Groups of 5, 6, or more creatures end up being really quick however and get mowed through.

[@woomod2445]

@@lorenzovaletti4951 Bluntly speaking, if a boss fails versus either of those spells, you win the encounter, just right there. We do however as @jimbob929 we do need more spells that can hit single targets on a fail the way they do. Hell i'd legit happilly have a two action spell that just no save slow 1s a target for one round. (it would be incredibly strong.)

[@jimbob929]

@@lorenzovaletti4951 No, I'm responding to Ronald's opinion at 23:06.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

I see the logic, but I don't think it makes sense to have a fair chance to defeat a campaign-ending Level 23 or 24 villain with a 5th-rank spell slot and hex cantrips. When put next to similar spells and how PF2 has balanced them, Slow and Synesthesia come off as oversights. As I say in my now-pinned comment, the counterplay is to kill the familiar or the witch! Which might mitigate it... but still not balance it against the other Patrons imo. It still seems much more powerful than the abilities from the other Patrons. A conditional Frightened 1 when your Familiar is concealed is decidedly less strong than the ability to impose Clumsy 3, Blinded, Slowed, Unconscious, and Stunned for an entire combat.

[@maxisses2709]

@@TheRulesLawyerRPG I think Ronald's last point is important. One 'subclass' can't be too much stronger, otherwise it'll feel like handicaping yourself to play the others (like charisma ranger)

[@cajeb5396]

I’m really glad for the buffs to Witch and also to Warpriest. Those are both classes I was interested in but was hesitant to play due to balance…especially the witch felt weak

[@josephpurdy8390]

When your designated healer is the most careless, haphazard, and suicidal character at the table. You know its always going to be an exciting experience.

[@fulvio3211]

The Resentment familiar should not work with conditions like prone because in its text it's stated that other effects that end the conditions still work (like using the action to get up, or the action to lower the sickened value if sickened, also frightened lowers automatically so it would end anyway). And if we take RAW the meaning of "conditions" that may mean that you can only extend the clumsy or concealed condition from synesthesia, but I guess only one, not all them togheter. Still it is still really powerful with synesthesia (a spell that the Resentment witch will take) and slow anyway.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

Yep! Though I think the "treat everyone as concealed" wouldn't fall under a "condition" under this narrower definition. (And yes, still powerful!)

[@fulvio3211]

@@TheRulesLawyerRPG right, I forgot that concealed is more of a "buff" for the defendant. If the text said "dazzled" maybe it would have worked.

[@FyremaelGlittersparkle]

I'm very excited for the witch re-vamping. That was one of my favorite classes when I used to play 1e PF, and when I first got asked to play in a 5e d&d game, I was sorely disappointed to see there was no equivalent class in their system. I'm eager to see how all this plays out.

[@lvl3-wizard81]

"condition" is the specific word used for negative conditions such as sickened or frightened. I assume in your Synesthesia example, it could only really increase the clumsy condition's duration. that alone can still be pretty strong, but I do not think the term "condition" is as vague as you're suggesting since it is specifically used for a specific list of afflictions in 2e

[@darksuji]

He also suggests that it affects prone, which it is clearly worded not to do. It doesn't even affect frightened!

[@davidhigdon794]

​@@darksujiI feel like frightened is an edge case. It has a duration of sorts, and when the ability gives examples it uses the phrase "such as," implying there are other wordings that count. For me personally, as a player I would ask the GM as soon a possible how they rule it and not argue. In my mind both interpretations are equally valid. As a GM I'll probably allow it to affect frightened since there are ways to prolong the frightened condition available to other classes.

[@darksuji]

@@davidhigdon794 There is no way for me to read "a timed duration" as applying to frightened. It is a condition that might decay over time, might decay more quickly over time, or might not decay at all over time.

[@davidhigdon794]

@@darksuji Could you elaborate on the second half of your comment?

[@darksuji]

@@davidhigdon794 Frightened ticks down one stack at the end of the subject's turn. The subject might be in an Aura of Bravery, in which case it does that and also ticks down one stack in the middle of the round. Or they might be in an Aura of Despair and unable to reduce their frightened value below 1. There's too many ways to affect the value of the frightened condition to call it a "duration".

[@jamesdominguez7685]

The sheer flavour of a lot of those witch features is just glorious. In November I think I'll be theorycrafting a monk/witch multiclass which relies on flanking from her familiar and delivers monk attacks with her hair and nails.

[@Suldrun45]

I hope the will put hyperlinks to the relevant page/section in the sidebar of the PDF versions^^;

[@castrochris94]

Rather than give Synesthesia the "This spell is garbage" trait, I think giving the enemy an additional save each round or lowering the clumsy values to 2 on fail and 1 on pass are pretty decent fixes

[@jimbob929]

My big issue with the wizard schools is sure it's flavorful, but I want my flavor to come with strengths, not just limitations. For example, Battle Mage doesn't make you a BETTER blaster, it just forces you to blast at the same effectiveness as everyone else, which kinda kills the flavor of the subclass imo. I think a neat idea to give the wizard subclasses a unique mechanical identity would be to change the way their curriculum spells work in a unique way. So you could have every subclass have a "curriculum augmentation" that only applies when using the curriculum spell slots (so you couldn't get the benefit by preparing spells in your curriculum in non curriculum slots or scrolls/wands). For example, a lot of the damage spells the Battle Mage has access to become total wastes once you reach a high enough level that even your cantrips outdamage them. To make the Battle Mage feel more like a blaster caster you could give them this ability: "You may use your Curriculum spells as though they are heightened to a spell rank equal to your max spell rank - 2". Not sure if it's balanced but the idea is to sell flavor with STRENGTHS, not just weaknesses.

[@nicolasvillasecaali7662]

The resentment familiar should specify that it only increase debuffs from the witch herself, that way it enhance what you do but doesnt ramp with teamwork that hard, since making your debuffs last more still contribute to the team.

[@mos5678]

Yes it is a bit unfortunate that the extra level 1 slot for what used to be evocation wizard is going to be even more limited in the remaster. But ultimately this is fine. Even once you have the ability to cast 4th rank mage armor you can still just use magic missile as a means to trigger things that happen on hit, such as creatures on uneven ground or who is affected by mirror image.... or just stuff it into a staff of your own choice or make, like a divination staff so you can get more castings of true strike. Necromancy staff could be juicy to with how ray of enfeeblement works.

[@upsidely]

Great video, as always. I like how you speculate on how the changes will actually play out at the table. P.S. See a chiropractor, your shoulder drop looks like slight scoliosis, likely from long hours in a chair.

[@evrypixelcounts]

The new witch really does look alot more interesting than before. I'm glad they gave them a unique identity. I just hope they reworked some of the niche hex cantrips. They also dispelled my worries about the new wizard schools being too restrictive. I like the changes to some spells, and it really helped me calm down about the possibility of casters getting a reduction in power. I'm still worried that Paizo hasn't taken the community's concerns about accuracy/consistency into account, but only time will tell.

[@rickcarson591]

To me the 1e* Paizo witch class was the absolute poster-child for splitting feats (and class features) into two radically different categories -> power and flavour. Then you give everyone N power feats (over the course of 20 levels) and M flavour feats (over the course of 20 levels). Another example (not to pick on Paizo) would be 5e's cooking feat. That'd be _great_ as a flavour (sic) feat, but if you put it into a general pool with all other feats suddenly it's competing with things like +10 damage to all your attacks - multiple times per round, or 'hey, that spell damage type you invested heavily in? Yeah, enemies don't get resistance to that anymore'. *I don't know much about 2e, because it just _hurts_ to look at it. Dead levels everywhere, casters all get different charts (not sure if it changed at some point, they seem a lot more standardised than I remember, but I do remember thinking they could just save 10-12 pages in the rulebook if they didn't dick around with giving class X feature Y at 12th level and giving the exact same feature Y to class Z at 13th level. Grokking 1 or 2 charts (maybe even 3 if we standardise half-casters) is way better than having to grok 20 different charts. So it seems like a couple of steps forward, a bunch of steps back, and a whole lot of skipping sideways. I don't wish them ill (more variety is a good thing, vive la revolucion and all that jazz), but I'm sad they clearly didn't learn (or forgot) the lesson they taught everyone else with 3.75 (maybe those designers moved on to other things in the meantime?), and I'm not heartbroken that nobody I know is playing 2e PF.

[@troyyrob]

Love the Witch changes!

[@fraidnaught9067]

Grippli first appeared in the Monstrous Compendium for D&D 2e, so that's why.

[@xaropevic7918]

One thing that I was kinda sad about the removal of schools is that wizards now won't have every of their focus spells anymore available

[@qg711]

Natural Medicine now allowes you learn Continual Recovery and Battle Medicine, however, you cannot use Battle Medicine

[@JamesAdams-nd1td]

Thanks for the info, I’m definitely hyped for the remaster. The new core ancestries sound very nice, and I love what they did with the witch. I can’t say I ever cared much for the witch before, but. Ow I kind of want to play one (though it still takes a backseat to my all-time favorite 2e class: the Thaumaturge).

[@maxisses2709]

Paizo mentioned that formulas will not be needed for common items in their podcast, so they still work to "unlock" rarer items.

[@josiahhopkins9188]

I believe they also mentioned that formula for common items will still be available, but they simply speed up the process or make it easier (I can’t recall which)

[@maxisses2709]

@@josiahhopkins9188 yeah, they let you craft items faster.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

Ah! Where did you hear this? I didn't know they have a podcast

[@maxisses2709]

​@@TheRulesLawyerRPG ​ I meant in the Gen Con 2023: Pathfinder Remaster Preview got lazy and just called it a podcast. I'll see if I can find the timestamp EDIT: found it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKQmnxsltKbha8 (exact time is 37:14 in the vid, started a bit before to catch the context) "...if you have the formula, which isn't required for common items..."

[@maxisses2709]

@@TheRulesLawyerRPG bump. I updated the previous message with a link, but you might've missed it.

[@wilywonky]

12:34 Ronald uses Discord light mode! Get him, boys! *angry pitchfork noises*

[@Wavuvi_Speedruns]

Isn't resentment limited by the Witch's hexes? It says it activates when the witch casts a hex, so a witch can use it 3 times at most before needing to refocus. So the witch is potentially committing precious feats towards focus spells to have more focus spells. The familiar must be within 15 feet (3 squares), so the witch would have to either be close themselves, or spend actions commanding the familiar to get into range itself. The which also has to be casting a hex to take advantage of Resentment, instead of doing ANYTHING else. Resentment IS powerful, but definitely NOT spamable or easy to use.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

If it's like the APG witch, every Patron will give a witch a hex cantrip. The Resentment extends to any condition, not just those imposed by the Witch. The familiar does have a target on its back, however! (But is less of a concern if a boss creature was alone)

[@helenacrispim3744]

For Divine Castigation (Feat 1 - Cleric), if the Heal/Harm damage becomes Spirit Damage, being able to damage anything that has a spirit, it means you can use your divine powers to smite anyone who has a spirit - random mercenaries inclusde. I assume.

[@Etropalker]

5:53 Nephilim only combine Tieflings and Aasimar, as seen in the feats 7:41. Aphorite and Ganzi are not in there, an better be released somewhere later, or Im lodging a formal complaint with the Godmind. Crafting changes sound nice, formulas add a very odd restriction, making them really only useful for consumables you might craft later

[@Minandreas213]

After years of voicing concerns and complaints on the cesspool P2 reddit and being voted down to oblivion by obsessive fan boys that think P2 is a flawless system, many of my complaints are being addressed in this remaster. It's very nice to know that our voices are being heard by Paizo despite the dogpiling and downvoting of the cult, and nice to see so many great changes being made to my favorite system. But because I'm petty, I'm mostly just soaking up these feelings of vindication right now. I was right all along Reddit. Ha.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

You actually can't prohibit a player from getting an uncommon thing if the option they chose provides the thing, not just an option to choose the thing.

[@cirodias7073]

About the character cheat I think it would be more intuitive if the proeficiences incrised going up not down

[@seanfulldark]

Or add adjustments to the spell, like for example I have some key rules set aside for teleportation circle and teleportation! [currently my key rules for teleportation circle is the circle can only send you to other circled locations, that you are self knows of! Now for basic teleport it requires for you to 1 not be hindered or pinned, second you need to attach it to said item like a staff or something and you can only teleport within a range of 20 to 30 feet depending on your power level[ ignoring the thickness of an object] without setting up a relay antenna. Hence why I created the spell teleportation totem which is you spend time creating a totem place it upon your path and you can teleport to that totem so long as it's attuned to you're staffed or object that you have listed as your teleportation device! Also if your device is destroyed at any point or the totems you cannot use them.][I totally did not steal this from Star Trek][he said sarcastically] also I really love the nephilim new flavor set up because, now we can have that awkward romantic story: the mother" well young Virgil I met your father on upon a battlefield when he slayed the evil demon to save me." Virgil." but he's a demon too and yet your Angel what does this mean?" look there are some things that they'll make devilcry remake did that I find very much more interesting! Yet they will never touch on because in the regular continuity there are no such things as angels. Or is there Bayonetta?

[@InvictusDaemon]

**Tomato thrown** Leave my favorite spell, Slow, alone. LOL, aside from that, great video as always.

[@Captainpigraven]

I’ll go ahead and Aid you on that check. Good thing I took Cooperative Nature before Ronald called for a nerf on that feat.

[@DrowGM]

Regarding the Resentment and having read comments: -There is a specific appendix for conditions. Only the conditions listed would be affected by raw. -Slowed 1, Stunned 1, and anything that is just listed as Condition # without including a duration is not affected. Conditions like Prone or Grabbed would also not be extended unless the source providing those conditions lists a duration. You cannot extend Stunned 1 but you could extend 'Stunned until the end of their next turn' or 'Slowed 1 for 1 round.' -The value of the condition doesn't increase; for example slowed 1 for 1 round does not become slowed 2.

[@MrTallFrog]

I think a nice buff/solution to the battle mage rank 1 spell issue would be: "curriculum spells are always cast at your highest spell rank"

[@MMurine]

I imagine that giving Wizard's an ever-growing pool of extra highest-level slots would introduce more balance problems than it solves, but Cleric also exists, so what do I know?

[@Xestes97]

Resentment familiar feature wouldn't prolong the duration of Synesthesia effects other than clumsy since only clumsy is a condition, others are effects.

[@Thenarratorofsecrets]

for draggin i do want to point out rescue personnel can move grown ass people waaaaayyyyyyyy farther than 50' in a minute lol.

[@003mohamud]

I wonder if the Poleiheira Adherant from pf1e will make a comeback as one of the new wizard schools

[@Wallemest]

I saw on your video that the feat Blessed Blood can be taken by any Nephilim. I feel like this should be lineage-based as a prerequisite; I don't really see holy blood in a demon-lineage nephilim...

[@jasonshortt7]

I wish they'd release the character sheet right away.

[@draxomega]

One thing I'd like to see them fix is the in-game economy. Let me explain; Some kits/sets are poorly priced, the most egregious I've noticed is the adventurer's pack, its contents add up to 8 silver 8 copper while the bundle is 1 gold 5 silver (a full 70% mark-up). There's also the fact 50ft rope and a climbing kit (which contains 50ft rope among other things) are both 5 silver. There's also a Rules issue between crafting and selling. Basically the crafting section says you pay half the base value to make an item, while the downtime section says you can only sell items for half their base value (unless commissioned). So if you craft an item and then sell it you get nothing.

[@rulethegamer]

Hi Ronald, your glasses are tilted, which makes you very relatable hahaha!

[@zetram01]

Gripple is a dnd race separate from Grungs. They are more like water frogs while grung are more like tree fongs.

[@venwin25]

Has Paizo released these core reprint pdf's to the general public? And if so, where can one acquire them?

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

The books come out in November, so that'll be when they come out

[@MattS-fo7qs]

Also, I'd be very interested to learn exactly how many people actually use a hard copy of the Core Rule Book at the table to look stuff up? Not a single player at my table in 3 groups, myself included, solely use either Archives of Nethys or Pathbuilder on their phones to look stuff up.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

Good question, though I personally know that if I were in-person, I would be using a physical Core book if it were easy to navigate, for certain use cases. To find a specific item I already know the name of, I'd use AON. Looking for a good Level 2 alchemical formula to get at level-up and just wanting a smaller list? I'd use the CRB. Also, the sidebars look useful for when you want to find "Hero Point" rule, etc. since they have their own label. For me that's faster than pulling up my browser and/or finger typing something

[@Zathurious]

As a caster heavy player, I have always felt that in Pathfinder, spell casters are too weak compared to the other types for one reason: Spell resistance. Spells were already a limited resource. No where else have I seen a rule where you have to roll to see if your spell even had a chance of working. I wish I didn't have to waste feats on spell penetration plus those teo vital ranged attack feats. I just doesn't seem fair to me.

[@Peyote-Poncho]

Is Faith's Flamekeeper a Fervor rename? IIRC Fervor and Rune are the only Patron Themes for their respective Traditions (Divine and Arcane respectively). Hopefully the Remaster gives each of those Traditions another option!

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

It doesn’t. It only remastered the APG patrons. You can identify which is which by their hex cantrip.

[@nicolaslatorrepadilla7484]

As a prep caster you are supposed to be able to prepare rank one spells in higher slots. Curriculum spells go into the spellbook, not slots. Or is there something I'm not seeing there?

[@MMurine]

Wizards have curriculum spells automatically added to their spellbook AND they get a unique slot at each spell level/rank that can only be used for curriculum spells. These are the slots that people are worried about, because at higher levels they become dead weight without well-scaling utility spells to fit into them.

[@nicolaslatorrepadilla7484]

@@MMurine oh, i see, Thanks

[@MattS-fo7qs]

I always thought that the list of conditions were fairly straight forward. Aren't diseases and poisons actually defined as 'afflictions' not 'conditions'?

[@ZepiforPeace]

Ultimately, you're right some spells are too strong and need to be nerfed. If they bring down synthesia, inner radiance torrent, invis, slow, etc, I worry casters are going to feel even worse to new players. Ultimately, balance doesn't often drive game adoption. Most of these spells are popular because even on success they still do something, so the user feels good.

[@fmaho3139]

Does anyone know what will happen with champions? Considering they are strongly tied to alignment I'm surprised they aren't in the core remastered.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

They are coming in Core 2, probably because they're arguably even more structured around alignment than Clerics are and wanted to give themselves more development time maybe? If one wants to run Champions with Remaster now, I would just allow a Holy/"good" champion to take any of the "good" Reactions regardless of alignment.

[@fmaho3139]

Sounds logical. I love my paladin and being able to pick more gods will create some alternatives. I do still find it wierd as it leaves the class is a wierd limbo at the moment. Though I find this whole situation rather confusing with the: you can use both the old and the new material. On paper it sounds good but at the table I already have had issues with one player using the new cantrips and confusing other players... One and a half ruleset isn't doing any favours at the moment...

[@shadieeryaqati4514]

They want to bring other classes up to fighter's level? Does that mean casters are going to actually get spell DCs and spell attack rolls actually worth something? Are my spells actually going to hit with some semblance of consistency? Will I not need to waste a slot on TS just for the mere privilege of a chance to roll better? ;_;

[@meggston6901]

Another youtuber said that they're doing away with the Winter Witch entirely, is that true or is Silence in Snow the replacement? I made a Winter Witch for a campaign that hasn't happened yet and I'll be devastated if I can't ever use her. :(

[@Dark_Jaguar]

I have to say ".1" doesn't feel sufficient to grab what this version's changing. It feels more significant than what D&D 3.5 did to 3.0. But, I do get the argument of allowing more versioning after the fact.

[@Ogrimmygrimgrim]

Honestly, I feel like the resentment ability for the familiar needs to be that good, since evil eye is not an inherently good hex, not without assuming changes are made. It's a worse Dirge of Doom in every way.

[@nick1wasd]

I hope Wizard has a poaching feat at higher levels to yoink another college's focus spell, since they're locked in at 2 max presently. Also, the "universalist" wizard is the "school of unified magic" which is the backmost entry in the college area, and thus was not previewed during the stream. I was sad to not see stamina in the variant rules area, especially considering that SF2 is going to be PF2 compatible, and SF1 has HP/Stamina as a baked in rule; this makes me think either PF2 is switching to HP/Stamina, SF2 is dropping it, or SF2 will have rules on imposing HP/Stamina on PF2 and vice versa. Also ability/skill points (point buy) also seems to have died, and I'm a little sad about that, but it seemed like an uncommon variant to use, so it makes sense.

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

There currently is Universal Versatility, which I'm guessing they're going to keep in the Remaster: 2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=649 There are quite a few variant rules that are not included here, including Ability Score Variants, Ancestral Paragon, Skill Points, etc. Also, pre-published stuff officially is NOT ruled out with the Remaster. When SF2 releases its four(?) "table legs" including a GM Core eventually, maybe Stamina will be re-introduced there?

[@DGootz]

madcap top probably replacing deck of many things?

[@CooperativeWaffles]

PFc · PathFinder Core (aka PathFinder Remastered)

[@Arcane_Revenant]

Isn't WOTC also removing the schools of magic for primal, arcane, and divine? Similar to PF. How does that affect the OGL between the 2 companies?

[@xaropevic7918]

As far as I know, the school will still exist, just as a separate category different from the traditions, similar to PF

[@Gyrocoptor]

I feel like I'm the only one interested in GM Core. I just want concrete rules for morale, guidelines for hirelings, and tweaked variant rules like PwL. C'mon, even *5e* has optional morale rules. Also Monster core needs to include terrain types monsters are commonly found in.

[@kimchung864]

What happened to your microphone?

[@twilight-2k]

Based on Rage of Elements, Sanctification has a whole range of values on Deities. Some do not allow Sanctification, some are Holy or Unholy, and others are "none" or (Un)Holy. It's unclear on if the ones that say "Holy or Unholy" allow not sanctifying.

[@ackbarreserve]

"Something went wrong with my OBS" Code for "The deathtrap of code that is OBS reacted to some minor change that Microsoft implemented on my PC without comunicating it and imploded on itself. Again."

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

Psychomachia in TTRPG? Noice

[@Captainpigraven]

I’ve been running this game since it’s inception in 2019, and while Synesthesia and Slow are both strong spells, I don’t feel they are overpowered. And the only complaints I’ve seen about them come from white room theorists. Every GM I’ve actually discussed this with admit they are strong spells but don’t feel they are overpowered. To each their own, though.

[@ThePF2EWizard]

They should change Halo to be something a bit more general imo. Since a nephilim technically could be from any background, a fiendish nephilim could wreathe their body in fire that gives off light, etc. Calling it a 'halo of light and goodness' makes me think it hasn't fully transitioned to the new heritage yet. Also to comment about giving spells the incapacitation trait, I think Hideous Laughter should have it as well. It's not bad if they succeed, but if they fail they're slowed 1. You can sustain it to infinity. There is no limitation to how long it can be sustained. In a small boss encounter, this could legitimately mean that a 2nd level spell could permanently slowed 1 a boss (since you can sustain a spell up to 10 minutes before suffering consequences). It's honestly baffling that this spell doesn't have the incapacitate trait.

[@Zuginator]

I really hate Magical Crafting being a requirement. I wish it gave bonuses instead of gate-locked. It's really annoying when you're level 2 and can't transfer the +1 Potency Rune off of the weapon you found, because no one is Expert in Magical Crafting AND have the Magical Crafting feat!

[@TheRulesLawyerRPG]

One thing I allow in my games is allow for an NPC to do this for the party for a fee. I extrapolate what Level someone would need to be able to succeed with Assurance, and charge 200% what their Earn Income amount would be. It ends up not being a whole lot. Still, it would be much more useful if they had a Services table for someone to do a Level X task for the party!

[@Wukong330]

spirit damage lol. Made me laugh

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

Just lying there is certanly easier to deal with than actively struggling and resisting against being moved. I once had to move my demented grandpa and let me tell you it was not easy at all when he resisted, but when he was mostly just lying there it required effort, and I was a pretty scrawny pubescent boy, moving a man who was a bit fat, which means that moving a person who is just lying there, should be a cakewalk for a powerful hero, even IF the PC lying there is loaded with a bunch of gear.

[@ethanhunstiger4868]

Instead of holy and unholy being set categories, I would rather they set it up so that clerics just do holy damage but it’s more effective against your gods anathema. If they are try to move away from alignment, or cosmic absolute morality, I feel that would be a better change.

[@LightningRaven42]

Definitely a step in the right direction for the Witch. However, I'm still disappointed with the direction they're moving forward with it. Familiars are nowhere near as interesting as Patrons could've been. Hopefully, the class gained more interesting stuff to compensate for their generic core feature.

[@kenkoopa7903]

They're hoping to add options and abilities with the patrons as well, Ron didn't go over all that as much, but they said as much in the presentation and in prior talks.

[@cidlunius1076]

Witches are just the PF2 equivalent of Warlocks...

[@Peyote-Poncho]

A caster being overpowered? Sure, sounds good! Edit: I can understand wanting to touch down Slow and Synthesthesia, but I don't think they ought to. Touch up bad spells? Yeah, for sure. Staple Incapacitation on to a single-target spell (the latter of the two), effectively giving it a 50% chance (assuming it's equal chances of the 4 degrees, not dramatically weighted towards success) of doing fuck all? IMO that sounds like trading the 'really good spell' for a different 'really good spell' instead of offering competition.

[@jorgegarcia-yj6cn]

i can not comprehend that people, if you dont like a change, dont fucking use it, its as simple as that

[@dlsisson1970]

Slow doesn't need the incapacitation trait. It only takes one action per round by default. It's not a fight ender. It's also 3rd rank already. Not like it's 1st rank.

[@Afrancis1968]

Unrelated, you should do a Phoenix Wright cosplay...

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

The goofy aah sound effect

[@TenositSergeich]

Grippli are the unloved tree frog people of D&D. Pathfinder cannot use the name anymore.

[@Ahglock]

I'm not making a statement on whether or not spellcasters are nerfed as I don't know enough about the system to comment. But hey you can use old books if you want isn't really a answer to the issue, it has the same weight as One D&Ds backwards compatibility claim. It is no better than saying dude you can house rule it bro. As whether you have access to it is at the whims of your DM and if you are starting with the remaster like a lot of one D&D transfers a you can buy two sets of core rule books and maybe your DM will let you use it answer does not really work.

[@SheppiTSRodriguez]

The presentation was such a disappointment (for me). They barely said more than the remaster preview document, but with printed graphics... And the reluctance to change widely felt problems by the community makes me feel uneasy. It was kinda PR-ish, it had this WOTC feel to it / Witch does look good, but I have my expectations set to zero until release

[@Twigggggy]

let witches be string for a while they were hurting since they released

[@Twigggggy]

also i dont know anyone who gladly puts incapacitation spells on their spell list or prepares them bc of how inconsistent and awful they are in bbeg fights i think good change for synesthesia would be to move the clumsy stayus from 3 to 1 and slow have it so you have to sustain the spell.

[@XoriniteWisp]

I will definitely not use Nephilim going forward, it's the sort of approach to worldbuilding that made me leave 5e. "Here's a generic thing, it's up to you to make it whatever you want" - fortunately it seems to be one of few missteps in this remaster. Most of the rest looks very good.

[@harrysarso]

nature witch seems to have a realy poor/limited familiar ability

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

If you want to play a hard mode Witch that doesn’t have a hex cantrip or a familiar ability.

[@harrysarso]

@@toodleselnoodos6738 yhe but i wanted a class to emulate a shaman (spirits, hexes occult, ect)

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

@@harrysarso Animist!

[@Gubbykahn]

People just overreacted by the cantrip changes...dumb people overreact thats normal xD

[@Keovar]

Be honest. There are enough changes to call it 2.3_ or debatably, 2.5. The .1 claim isn’t an honest assessment at this point. It’s disingenuous at best.

[@hi123452008]

The change seems similar to the difference between D&D 3.0 and 3.5, yeah.

[@dominikbehrendt1934]

​@@hi123452008also, this update basically dismantles fundamental parts of the campaign setting so they could arguably have made this a new game from the ground up along Starfinder 2E.

[@nikolaj.andresen]

Out of curiosity, what is the threshold for a minor or major version bump respectively? Changes to one or more existing classes? They did that in a previous errata. Changes to existing actions? They’ve done that both in errata and in rulebooks. Introduce new types of checks? They did that for the Kineticist.

[@WolforNuva]

the .1 seems perfectly fair to me. It's like programmer speak, where we had "2.0.###" (insert the following numbers with however many erratas were released), and now with the first major update we're going into 2.1.0 Also because so little feels like it actually changed. Alignment is likely going to be the only thing that actually impacts my games, especially since just about everything else hardly had any impact to begin with (like spell schools) or is completely optional (like the revised classes and ancestries). The only reason to call it a "2.5" is because that's what D&D did. One time. Hardly much of a precedent to set, and especially since the whole point of this revision to break away from D&D tradition.

[@ThePandaReaper]

​@@nikolaj.andresenfeel like the line for me was removing alignment. Never seen them remove a core system and damage types in an errata.

[@justicar5]

gods I hate that they took a fun cleric gish class and tagged the name onto a boring full caster :*( War Priests were epic. now they have far to many spells and suck...