The Next Gen Future Smart Lock - Yale Luna Pro After 3 Months

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[@lingthecatwholovescats5004]

Your videos for the locks are really useful for me. My dad always forgets to lock the door or bring his keys. It is definitely very helpful for old folks.

[@AlexTeo]

Yup thats right

[@user-lx1cp8ig7y]

I agree

[@imranbecks]

The best one I've seen yet. But I guess you get what you pay for. A trusted brand and that price 😮

[@1MW9]

If possible, try to refrain from using facial recognition. I previously worked in NEC, which owns the no.1 face recognition technology in the world. FR technology will never be as accurate as fingerprint and iris. It is possible for someone who look somewhat like you to unlock your door. Maybe 1:5000 chance? The more faces you register, the accuracy decreases. The most dangerous part is anyone with a photo of your face can just print it out on a A4 paper, and use it to unlock your door. Might want to use FR as a 2FA, instead of "either or" to unlock doors.

[@AlexTeo]

The NEC office at bendemeer? Always a queue after lunch time to enter lol... seeing many airports including changi airport has removed biometric and using facial, same for mobile phones, the gateway to your everything. I believe the tech is starting to shift

[@badboi888]

As someone dealing with access control system, I agreed that FR as 1FA is not suitable for home use. For faster recognition speed, vendor would increase the false acceptance rate. Another thing to consider is the site condition, strong backlight (especiallt corridor unit) or lowlight condition would creates a lot of issue.

[@sleepyearth]

@@AlexTeo Changi do have multiple points of security so the risk of failure is much lower during those points of entry unlike your house door. Just be beware of the risks. I will consider buying this for old folks whose fingerprints are hard to detect or with dementia problems. FR might be a tad op for most folks.

[@sdqsdq6274]

what about a high traffic , people who walk past gonna trigger it ?

[@zckom]

Good choice for the new look of the door, looking great!!

[@AlexTeo]

Thanks mate!

[@UrHainanBoy]

Another practical and good recommendation video from the man 🎉

[@AlexTeo]

Thanks for the high praise!

[@angelachen3940]

will be interesting to hear your review on other digital locks that have facial recognition as well

[@AlexTeo]

Lockin V5 and aqara D200 are the other 2 that I will consider

[@davidarchangels6500]

What the philips one..

[@reaganong6267]

hey there.. hows moorgen t9 vs this luna pro ? can't seem to find any review or comparison.

[@woofinu]

It seems too big for me. Good point about the practical benefits of multiple ways of identification for door unlock. I was thinking that 1-2 was more than enough, but more is always better and useful in different situations.

[@AlexTeo]

body is abit long but doesn't look bulky

[@woofinu]

@@AlexTeo As you said in the review, it requires a professional installation (or by someone with pro-level skills). If I did it myself, I may be able to make it work but it would look bad.

[@valerypek4845]

Hi can I check if my HDB door is those with design can I still laminated my door?

[@feliciachia7568]

Hey Alex, how would you compare Yale Luna Pro vs Aqara D100? Which one will you recommend?

[@T2LA]

What do you think if compare to Aqara D100 ? they came out later but I want to hear ur opinion ,

[@ShawnAng]

Thanks Alex for the great video! Would love to see how this lock integrates with your Home Assistant Yellow in your future videos! I'm considering getting this lock if it works well with Home Assistant.

[@AlexTeo]

pretty sure it will work just fine!

[@chrislauyp]

@@AlexTeo hi. Is it HA integration via Wi-Fi or zigbee or what? Does it need additional module or hub on top with the unit itself? Thanks. Great video

[@jpeter3683]

Hi Alex , nice to hear from you . There was for google home , apple home kit, smart things but is there anything for alexa for this lock ... Anyway i find video is useful for sure ... take care man ...

[@AlexTeo]

oh yes, it does support alexa as well, thanks thanks

[@DBE008]

When you are carrying groceries it would be helpful for a face recognition to unlock the door and push the door open, hands free access is helpful. Another tip good for handicapped. Any info how the device is protected from hackers? Does it have notification of anyone entering or trying face recognition, using the keypad for access attempts that failed?

[@AlexTeo]

Yeah thanks for sharing the extra tips. Notification of people entering is done by a smart camera doorbell. Keypad will just be disabled after a few failed attempts and this event will be logged

[@beI935]

hello! What if the lithium battery health deteriorates after years of using? do we have to replace the entire lock?

[@AlexTeo]

nope, the battery is removable

[@fawazalrajhi-n8s]

i need help please My main outside door is 8cm depth, so i tried to many smart fingerprint locks its cant be installed, like eufy and ultraloq, im using now nest yale, but i need a lock with fingerprint, so please can u advice me for a smart fingerpring lock can install in 8cm thick door ( outdoor ) many thanks

[@JeremyPoh-w5u]

Hi Alex, may I ask how to add the door lock onto samsung smartthings, cant seems to detect my device.

[@dragoonnit]

Big Fan Alex! But a very quick question.. if we are using the 3D face recognition access for a HDB, wouldn’t the gate be blocking the facial recognition capabilities and would it be possible to unlock using the door lock to unlock the gate as well?

[@AlexTeo]

you are suppose to open the gate first then do the face recognition

[@tanbh12]

How is your experience with HA integration? Does it have an entity to pick up the person that opened the door to trigger further automations? Like turning on specific room lights based on who opened the door.

[@AlexTeo]

from the documentation (www.home-assistant.io/integrations/august), it should but I haven't been able to get it to work, the operator sensor didn't seem to work as what I think it should be

[@limin6992]

Hi Alex, thanks for the review, do you use a gate lock? Would you recommend it?

[@AlexTeo]

i don't use now as i don't see a point of getting one

[@megatz2012]

Thanks for sharing. Jus wondering if this model can sync with a gate digital lock? Not sure if the facial recognition will makes sense if theres a gate… hmm.

[@AlexTeo]

For me it doesnt make senss to have a gate lock with or without facial recognition

[@braz0demercedes]

I have an older yale digital lock, i wonder if this new version can be used to the existing holes without drilling again on the door

[@AlexTeo]

For such qn, you gotta ask yale direct

[@quekvincent5981]

great review. wonder do Yale have the option to replace the lit batt.

[@AlexTeo]

i believe it should have

[@dtejsy]

does other yale smart lock have geofencing ? or only this model? seems like a Yale app feature. Thanks

[@AlexTeo]

the lock itself must be able to install the module, software end needs to support the hardware

[@andrewloo21]

Hi Alex, I just installed this lunar pro+. However, whenever I close my front gate, it will keep screaming “No facial recognition detected”. How did you resolve that? Are we able to disable face recognition facial altogether and just use fingerprint? 😅

[@AlexTeo]

Lol, why not just lower the volume?

[@sleepyearth]

@@AlexTeo Has it been resolved yet?

[@siowkuangang5926]

Mine also. Turned off the volume will only mute the keypad but not the “no face detected, please try again”. Just wasting my money

[@KearTianSeng]

Should write in to Yale instead of asking here, Alex just sharing his review. You can remove your gate if you are not using it

[@trenzterra]

I was wondering whether you ever tried adding a new PIN in the Yale App before? For some reason, it never seems to work for me...

[@AlexTeo]

just tested, no issue with the app

[@danielz83]

The FR door lock wont be useful most of the time because it will be blocked by the gate? And nowadays many choose to do sync unlock; Unlocking the gate also unlocks the door

[@AlexTeo]

you can refer to my previous video on gate+door lock for those HDB that wants both

[@ASESG-g3s]

you know the performance for Luxus Atlas Digital Door Lock

[@周正宇-e5r]

Hello Alex, have you had any experience that the lock is constantly searching for Face Recognition so that the voice message keeps on playing ? Mine was newly installed and it keeps doing that. The CS hotline gave me some suggestions (such as mute the voice in the app's setting) but it still doesn't shut up.

[@AlexTeo]

It happens twice for me, it will shut up after some time. Hopefully they will have a firmware to fix this

[@lauratimbersonreray6897]

Id go for aqara using apple watch wud b very2 handy and quickest!

[@AlexTeo]

that's nice as well!

[@user-fi8mx7zy4y]

Hi can let me know supplier n where get frosted toilet door

[@junming1000]

Hi you mention the lock with Apple HomeKit integration. May I know which module was installed or the default module with Wi-Fi bridge?

[@AlexTeo]

i demo all 3 smart home platforms with the same module installed

[@junming1000]

Sorry but which module ? Using wifi bridge ?

[@aliciawang-u2g]

Great video!!

[@AlexTeo]

thanks!

[@ryansoo7228]

How does geofencing know when you're inside or outside the house? Like I'm inside the house but Yale connects to my phone Bluetooth, unlocks and keep waiting for me to enter

[@AlexTeo]

based on location services, the process will only start when you leave your neighborhood

[@blaababa9352]

Is there a reason why it's not available in Australia? It's not even an option to purchase it outside Australia and get it sent here!?

[@AlexTeo]

haha you gotta ask your local yale

[@ezlinear9138]

The features are all that I'm looking to replace my current Samsung. But I'm still trying to find one that does not have the door catch as I find that very noisy.

[@AlexTeo]

Then you have to go with lever design locks, if you leave it to lock automatically with your soft closing then there will definitely be a sound. This yale lock is quieter than my old xiaomi lock though

[@MrWarmerHeat]

Is it possible to integrate one smart device like this to multiple systems? Like you have it connected to Google Home, Apple HomeKit and SmartThings, are they all simultaneously connected or you have to remove and reconnect to the other?

[@AlexTeo]

depends on the device, for this yes you are able to

[@MrWarmerHeat]

@@AlexTeo cool! Thanks a lot for replying, have been wondering about this for some time. So in the end it depends on what the device supports. Is there any way to know this information? Usually it's pretty vague until you actually purchase and try it yourself.

[@emiliaborregotenor1016]

Alguno puntos importantes que no has mencionado en el vídeo. 1. Compatibilidad con el estándar Matter y Thread?? 2. Se pueden hacer automatizaciones según quien entre por la puerta?? Ya que tiene lector de huellas y reconocimiento facial sabe quien está entrando en casa, por lo tanto según qué persona esté entrando o saliendo de casa se podrían crear automatizaciones personalizadas (poner una música determinada por ejemplo, una temperatura idónea etc)

[@dlee1414]

Any possible comparison against chinese top locklockin s50f ? They can use finger vein too.

[@AlexTeo]

will go check out that product

[@firaz8195]

hi alex. may I know what is your home door thickness? i just purchased one after watching your video many times but am told now that 35mm doors are not compatible, only from 40mm onwards.

[@AlexTeo]

40mm

[@firaz8195]

@@AlexTeo thanks!

[@acyrrrrr]

hello Alex, can I check whether we can pair the Aqara G4 with Aqara A100, such that if the G4 recognises your face, the A100 will unlock?

[@AlexTeo]

i believe so, i don't have an aqara lock now to test it out

[@shiroi10000]

not sure if the main door lock can be synced with yale gate lock?

[@AlexTeo]

Yup it can

[@icy3dge]

Is there a reason why unlocking the lock doesnt allow you to trigger routines ? Is this a bug ?

[@AlexTeo]

Because google home require a pin code to unlock, they dont allow unlock to be an automation

[@WeeKiongTan]

Make me feel like replacing my come with digital lock. Have you tried using a picture for the facial unlock accuracy? Such as with mask or specs on and off? Not sure if there is a delta accuracy for that.

[@AlexTeo]

Its using 3D face scan, something like the tech used for robovac, not just a flat image recognition. Will work with specs on or off but not masks. Can go their shop test out, think there is 1 at century sq

[@WeeKiongTan]

@@AlexTeo don't expose my location la. That shop always no people stand by. 😜

[@AlexTeo]

@@WeeKiongTan 🤣

[@macmelvintan]

You ever did a review of Yale YDR50GA which the geo fencing feature interest me a lot. Is there a diff btw that model and this luna with regards to geonfencing other than price?.

[@AlexTeo]

No difference from the geofencing pov

[@kenlee8523]

Yale Connect Wi-Fi Bridge is need to buy together?

[@AlexTeo]

pretty sure you can buy them separately, probably a better discount if together

[@Cokelightt]

Hi. Any chance can you review Luxus Atlas WIFI Digital Door Lock ? Thank you 😊

[@AlexTeo]

I only review individual product if there are any interesting features to cover

[@ErnieSesameStreet]

Is there white colour or stainless steel look for gate and door for hdb

[@AlexTeo]

white is very uncommon, stainless steel look there are quite a few eg. philips

[@ErnieSesameStreet]

@@AlexTeo Because my gate and door are white, will like to look for white or stainless steel. It will be great these types are selling

[@heythen]

How much did it cost for the wrap including installation?

[@AlexTeo]

can reach out to them and get a quote coz mine is heavily discounted

[@johnnychua6738]

Why spend so much for a digital lock. As a long time user myself, I realised that it's more cost effective & efficient to get a cheap fingerprint padlock for the gate instead. The door just get a normal handle would be sufficient.

[@CyberMew]

Is the facial scanning using LIDAR or pure flat image recognition?

[@AlexTeo]

definitely not pure flat image recognition, you can't take a photograph of your face and get through as it captures the 3D of your face. It is not like your typical video doorbell this are based on images captured

[@focus7486]

Hi Alex, can we use within google door bell to unlock?

[@AlexTeo]

give an example what automation usecase you have in mind?

[@edwin_cho]

My only qns is, is that a white Schnauzer? I ask because in case you didn't know you hd successfully blur out the background..

[@AlexTeo]

Dachshund mix :)

[@edwin_cho]

@@AlexTeo cool..😎

[@noelnng3984]

HI Alex how much is the Di Noc films for the door?

[@AlexTeo]

better for you to reach out to jestac and request for quote

[@naTnamroN]

I wonder if it is compatible with a combi door

[@AlexTeo]

I dont see why not as long as the thickness fits, but best verify with them directly

[@weizy8]

Hey Alex, is Lockin S50F face recognition lock comparable to this?

[@AlexTeo]

I didnt get a chance to test that yet, but on paper it looks very good

[@weizy8]

@@AlexTeo thanks. What about the Lenovo F1 Pro Digital Lock? Thanks

[@Quest88]

Nice to see things improving in this space. Can Auto-Unlock function work with multiple phones?

[@AlexTeo]

Yeah, every users will have access to the app lock settings, so they can configure their own auto unlock

[@skailong]

Hey, would like to ask about Home Assistant integration. Are you able to get Local integration? Or has to be Cloud-based (via Yale Home or August integration?)

[@AlexTeo]

not sure whether local is possible, i have mine via cloud, august integration

[@skailong]

@@AlexTeo How's the response time like for cloud base integration? Can know more about what are the Controls and Sensors available for the entity? I notice you don't use a gate lock, but do you reckon it'd be able to do sync unlock? Maybe just gotta issue the unlock command to both the gate lock and door lock separately if need be?

[@AlexTeo]

@@skailong about 3s, you will see lock/unlock controls, battery life, open/close sensor. The sync unlock is configured locally on the module installed on the lock, you will only be controlling the gate lock, the door lock becomes a dummy that just unlock whenever the gate lock is unlocked

[@skailong]

@@AlexTeo OK. 3s not the fastest haha. But might be ok since I don't really see a lot of use case for automations to unlock the gate/door lock actually. Able to share what kind of useful automations you do with the door lock?

[@AlexTeo]

@@skailong i only have the auto unlock configured on yale home app, for HA its mainly having that 1 dashboard 1 app control

[@granzordko285]

Hi alex is this pairable with their gate lock

[@AlexTeo]

Yup it does

[@birdyse7en]

2:10 your neighbour unit & app name will expose your address 😅 , nice review!

[@AlexTeo]

it's already exposed in my home tour videos haha, but its fine i am not a celebrity, nobody cares man

[@tunasandwichisgood]

can auto-locking be disabled? something like a passage mode

[@AlexTeo]

i don't think that is possible

[@tunasandwichisgood]

at 5:41, i can see Auto-Unlock option will it not disable auto lock?

[@AlexTeo]

@@tunasandwichisgood oh i misunderstood it as automatically lock when the door is closed. But i also don't know what you meant by passage mode

[@tunasandwichisgood]

if you google yale assure lock 2 passage mode the feature i’m talking about should show up

[@keithylz]

Hi is there a Yale gate lock which can work with this?

[@AlexTeo]

Yup, they actually bundle sell them at a cheaper price

[@keithylz]

@@AlexTeo thanks for the fast reply, which one would you recommend?

[@AlexTeo]

@@keithylz the one i tested in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_MeKedjtNqb6c

[@Bickini]

May I ask what’s your view on Aqara smart lock with apple home kit?

[@AlexTeo]

Yeah thats what i recommended for my apple homekit guide video

[@Bickini]

@@AlexTeo yeah! But Aqara only have wooden door lock, what will u do with the gate? Not sure if is practical to do away the metal gate.

[@AlexTeo]

@@Bickini i always find it redundant to lock the gate

[@Bickini]

@@AlexTeo yea but the way we ventilate the living room, sometimes we need to keep the door open. Do you know any digital gate lock that integrate with Aqara door lock?

[@AlexTeo]

@@Bickini i think that only sg hdb has the habit of doing that, those stay in condo and at overseas is not a common practice. You can change to a combi door if you want too

[@jianxiongRaven]

Non related to lock but why dont you remove the gate?

[@AlexTeo]

troublesome, just leave it there so that i can hang my food delivery as well

[@jianxiongRaven]

@@AlexTeo ah i see. Also easier to sell the unit incase for the future

[@AlexTeo]

@@jianxiongRaven yup that's right

[@jianxiongRaven]

@@AlexTeo nice . So far your the only few who knows what you are doing Like smart switches , we don't exactly need the stuff tonbe smart but maybe a smart plug will do

[@allusionz]

Did you consider Aqara D200i as well?

[@AlexTeo]

nope because of smart home integration

[@allusionz]

Both products are pretty similar to me so I’m still considering. Thanks for the reply!

[@AlexTeo]

@@allusionz yup i will take that if i am using apple homekit

[@badtzmaru6921]

Do you still lock your metal gate?

[@AlexTeo]

i never use gate lock

[@mokkimhong]

which lock do you use for your metal gate? does it sync with you yale lock?

[@AlexTeo]

i dont use any gate lock, you can refer to this video if you are looking for one kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_MeKedjtNqb6c

[@Shane1822]

Can it use iPhone key to unlock like Aqara lock?

[@AlexTeo]

nope not apple home keys

[@Shane1822]

@@AlexTeo Thanks for sharing

[@Shane1822]

Hi Alex Just want to seek your advice if you previously install Aqara before Yale ? does the wooden door have the same hole for installation or they need to drill a new one? I'm thinking of changing from Yale 7115 the old version to Aqara but not sure if it is advisable. Appreciate your advice.

[@samesamebutnotsame1172]

Can already imagine impersonator steal photo on facebook/instagram to open door using facial recognition

[@AlexTeo]

The tech today is not so dumb

[@quinnlau9222]

Siemens e868 good or not?

[@AlexTeo]

didnt know siemens made smart door locks as well

[@alcappacino]

I'm bothered about the opening direction of the gate and door

[@AlexTeo]

???

[@user-fi8mx7zy4y]

Trouble you and thanks

[@MandoMonge]

All fun and games until lockpicking lawyer can open it in less than 3 seconds showing it has a massively unsafe mechanical backup lock making the tech useless

[@AlexTeo]

You are referring specifically to this lock or smart lock in general?

[@torrhthc4103]

U no need lock metal gate lock ah

[@AlexTeo]

nope, i'm even lazy to close it

[@thisisgerald]

seriously $588 for a door wrap?

[@AlexTeo]

there are always cheaper options around

[@mihmih2129]

Kaadas is better

[@apul666]

What if u lose your hp? Someone can easily rob your hse.. 😂

[@AlexTeo]

Is this a serious question or ur just joking haa... i am actually v happy if the person is able to come over my house to 'return' my phone

[@Brawler2818]

Not suitable for my mum who uses a wheelchair

[@AlexTeo]

How is that so?