The *NEXT* teams to join the SEC & Big Ten...

[@bcperry1973]

Conference proposal for all the nerd schools: Army, Navy, Air Force, Duke, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, Stanford

[@mj6493]

Also BC and Tulane.

[@atgdcommish608]

Not a bad idea, actually. Get Notre Dame to join and they've got something (not likely though). Cal? Georgia Tech? Purdue? Virginia? UCLA (after they get tired of getting smashed in the B1G)?

[@D1_Aggies]

Rutgers

[@jimedick9496]

You’re seriously leaving out Cal?

[@nateg4582]

So almost like a power 4 ivy league.

[@49ersrocketsrider2]

Why do everybody wants North Carolina in the Big 10??? Makes No Sense.. North Carolina make a better fit in the SEC.. The SEC needs a North Carolina's team in the SEC..

[@zachellenburg5738]

So does the B1G. They also want a team in North Carolina. And I think most people think UNC would fit better academically and culturally in the B1G

[@jamiethornton6101]

@@zachellenburg5738 problem is their chancellor, two members of the UNC BOT, and the NC BOG who decides where UNC goes, are all under the control of pro SEC guys now. The Chancellor left for Michigan State and the new one has been on record of wanting the SEC. The UNC BOT wants the SEC and so is the NC BOG. ON top of that, the SEC has it's SEC Network in Charlotte and they are building a new ops center there.

[@Impereaux]

Money

[@nathanieldaniel1326]

Academic profile. Some schools don't only provide a football brand

[@MichaelRegan]

Your post makes no sense. Literally.

[@wave5970]

Big 10 is keeping an open spot for ND

[@joaoflintino]

Realignment is terrible

[@djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853]

At this point what difference does it make if the ACC folds too; they’re not gonna be respected by fans or the media and the schools won’t be getting paid what they’re worth

[@joshstephens6574]

I think it'd be cool if they set it up like the premiere(soccer) league. It already works that way where the rich get richer

[@Bravesfan12345]

@@joshstephens6574teams would never risk money from tv deals with a chance to get “relegated”. It’s a fun idea, but teams will never agree to it

[@grahamhallman243]

@@joshstephens6574Relegation is actually an awful system n ultimately leads to super predictable teams that dominate the UEFA Leagues as well as the Champions League. You’d know this if you actually watched each year.

[@bcperry1973]

The first, or best, thing that needs to happen is the dissolution of the NCAA. Football, M/W basketball, baseball/softball, M/W ice hockey, and M/W soccer should all break off and have their own organization(s). Let the "Olympic" sports come under the US Olympic Committee or whatever.

[@mvpsportscenter6172]

What Brain Kelly said is what these Conference's and schools need to do Football should reline but looked at as Independent from the rest of the sports and Conference's.

[@jyrionbell848]

Chip Kelly

[@mvpsportscenter6172]

@jyrionbell848 lol that's right it was Chip

[@bdoomiami1567]

How on earth do you think Boise State and UNLV are more attractive to the ACC (or anybody) than Washington State and Oregon State?

[@811see]

Only UNLV is better than Oregon state and wazzu, but boise heck no

[@tarheel7406]

None are attractive.

[@SurfingRef82]

That Hawai'i slander was uncalled for 😂😭

[@Kev_O_]

You’re on the right track. Eventually 2 conferences ( Fox and ESPN) with 25-30 teams

[@atgdcommish608]

Well FSU and Clemson are obvious, if the ACC exit fees can be negotiated low enough (or reduced in court.) Maybe Miami if they can scrape together the needed scratch. Football drives the bus though, I don't see the appeal of Kansas and North Carolina except in hoops. And Georgia Tech is dreaming.

[@tarheel7406]

To where would FSU and CLEMSON go?

[@jimedick9496]

@@tarheel7406 I still think those are the two that the B1G would be most interested in. They bring in the largest tv audience. Those teams generate money for Fox, especially when matched up against the upper echelon of the B1G.

[@tarheel7406]

@@jimedick9496 You can think the Earth is flat if you wish, but history and credible reporting says otherwise. Increasingly confident that the SEC/B1G will wait out ND, UVA & UNC before doing anything else.

[@logsdon36]

They’re going to have to at least make a pod system if they’re going make 20 team conferences

[@abourneidentity4208]

Will be FSU CLEMSON UNC +1 ND +1 to SEC/B1G…. Who will be the +1’s?? LVILLE VT NCST etc will look at BIG12 ND won’t stay in an ACC without top 6-8 brands

[@tarheel7406]

Curious... For how long and by how many processionals reporting will it take for people to understand that CLEMSON and FSU are not expansion priorities for the SEC? No purpose for ACC remainders to move to the BIG12.

[@RB-.-]

Georgia Tech to the big 10 or SEC would be unnecessary

[@upbeatproductions7614]

Georgia Tech was once part of the SEC.

[@atgdcommish608]

You would think the B1G would have learned their lesson from inviting Rutgers and Maryland. Just chasing TV markets doesn't move the needle enough to justify splitting the dough.

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

@@atgdcommish608 Rutgers is trending up. They have demonstrated that they're more than just a mere TV market in the past. Exhibit A - This game was voted as one of the ESPN big games of the 2000's during the first Greg Schiano era.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKjUmnidrrFjhrM Fast-forward to the 2nd Greg Schiano era - 2025 recruiting class is ranked 15th in the 247sports composite rankings (22 3-stars, 7 4-stars), and 12th in the Rivals 2025 rankings. Rutgers will surprise a lot of people moving forward.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

@@upbeatproductions7614 would gladly trade Missouri or Texas A&M for Georgia Tech.

[@HailAres]

I like how you inadvertently reference both FSU and Clemson's logos when talking about them. (paraphrased) "These two teams fit the SEC's footprint" "... especially with FSU spearheading it"

[@ron6083]

It is just insane, the things content creators would do to get views. Y'all don't even pretend to act like yall have some sort of concrete proof of the assumptions being made. The worst part of it all is the fact y'all say the same thing as to where you guys get your info, "Sources have said......". It just amazes me.

[@djbeezy]

This realignment crap has ruined college sports.

[@Johnone1]

They should make a conference for 2 year colleges lol

[@Size-11]

Sorry but your analogy is incorrect on two teams

[@David-pt6zk]

Big 10 wanted Ga Tech few years back and will take them now

[@mattc.6526]

The Atlanta media market would be a big draw.

[@davidsmith8278]

You never know how things are going to really transpire until it actually happened but at this point I would if I were a gambling man I would put money on Clemson, and Florida State ending up in the Big Ten with UNC and Duke or Virginia or some combination of that in the SECand there will probably be others as well that will end up in both leagues but for starters….. I think Notre Dame ends up with a scheduling agreement at some point with the big 10 much like they currently have with the ACC.

[@tarheel7406]

~50% chance that FSU lands in the B1G. ~0% chance CLEMSON lands in the B1G.

[@davidsmith8278]

@@tarheel7406 I wouldn’t go that far as to say 0% chance with Clemson, I would say the odds are pretty high in fact, unless the SEC gets back into the picture with them first

[@tarheel7406]

@@davidsmith8278 ~0% chance that the B1G adds a low brand inertia #2 in a smaller SEC flagged state that offers few synergies, no notable academics, and no notable overall sports. GATECH, KANSAS, MIAMI, and the 4C flagships are all better bets.

[@d.fernandosmith4033]

I think Miami is really a lock for Big 12. With Louisville, NCST, VaTech maybe Pitt. Miami is NOT being considered by the Big 10, they're dreaming of ND coming in

[@tarheel7406]

Why would Tier 2 ACC flight risks go to the BIG12? Why would the BIG12 want to get even larger and wider?

[@d.fernandosmith4033]

@@tarheel7406 The Big 2 have gotten larger/wider adding Miami, Louisville, NCST would make the Big 12 the most competitive top to bottom

[@tarheel7406]

@@d.fernandosmith4033 The BIG12 is already too large and wide with schools that don't want to be there (not just preferring the SEC or B1G). Tier 2 football needs to maximize regionality and peer matchups. Large/wide Tier 2s lower those synergies. In other words, why would the already dead BIG12 be a better home than the future dead ACC?

[@adamb6370]

I alway get the feeling that Ginger just makes this stuff up. But the ACC will probably cause another round to realignment with FSU and Clemson pushing to get into a P2 conference. It will trigger realignment but it may not be what everyone thinks. BIG will look to take Stanford and probably FSU. Leaving Clemson out. Then the SEC will probably just do 2 (UNC and UVA) but could also do 4 also taking Kansas and Clemson. No one is going over 20 now. ND will slip through as long as scheduling concessions are made for both P2 conferences. GT and Miami aren’t SEC candidates.

[@wolferstein3236]

I believe the contract Notre Dame signed with ACC, someone said they would have to join ACC or paying a lot of money to ACC if they didn't join. B10 was looking at Kansas for a bit not for sports but for education because they only wanted certain schools to join up.

[@wolferstein3236]

There really isn't as much interest in further expansion for B10 or for SEC as people think, the next round of movement is going to be on the west coast with Washington St and Oregon St. The only way B12 expands if the yare given more money from ESPN, they blew their wad with Arizona, Arizona St, Utah and Colorado joining.

[@tarheel7406]

WASHST and OREST have been relegated down to the Tier 3. Their only chance is if the SEC and B1G go to 24 each and the BIG12 needs to backfill for losing some 4Cs/KANSAS.

[@wolferstein3236]

Wash St and Ore St would like Big 12 but that won't be happening and both have said repeatedly their #1 goal is rebuilding the Pac odds are they are going to do.

[@tarheel7406]

@@wolferstein3236 A rebuilt Tier 2 PAC would be nice, but that would require getting the 4Cs to return via an amicable realignment. The BIG12 doesn't even know it's a Tier 2 to even consider that option. What happens at the Tier 3 level isn't material.

[@Andrew-bd8dc]

Here's how I see it: BIG: FSU & Clemson + ND scheduling agreement (GT/Stanford sneak in to give the league an even number) SEC: UNC & Virginia Big 12: Miami, Louisville, Pitt, VT, NCST, UConn

[@tarheel7406]

Why would any then ACC remainder move to the already Tier 2 BIG12? Why would ND leave since it would still have reasonable playoff access?

[@Andrew-bd8dc]

@@tarheel7406 Money

[@tarheel7406]

@@Andrew-bd8dc Why would the already Tier 2 BIG12 pay more than a future Tier 2 ACC? This story is over 2 years old.

[@SomeGuy-ds7pl]

Georgia tech should be in the sec not big ten plus they have history in the conference they were founding members until they left in 1966

[@mikemitchem4846]

Don't think Tech will come back to the SEC. Although it has been a long time since they left, the made a lot of people mad with their elitist attitude when they left

[@scotttild]

And thy don’t bring anything to the SSC. Only reason would be if they needed some school to balance things out.

[@jansonroberts2616]

When GT left the SEC, they left on bad terms with many of the SEC members. They’ll never get back in now. ACC or bust.

[@brentmoretz4104]

If basketball mattered as much as football does Kansas would be more attractive to the Big 10, and the SEC

[@tarheel7406]

KANSAS is a high bubble team for either a 24-member SEC or B1G.

[@nfranks7747]

Can you let Texas and OK actually join the SEC and see the impact it has by improving the SEC and dumping on the BIG 12?

[@TimothyFitch]

This sentence doesn’t even make sense. OU and TX just dilute the SEC and make it harder for mid to low tier SEC teams to compete. No SEC fans should be happy your conference is getting railroaded by teams who care much more about themselves than any conference.

[@wolferstein3236]

Last point which brought up for those ACC schools if anyone wanted them, they would have found a way to get them out of that contract, no one has so there isn't really interest there. If you really want a school they would do anything possible to get that school

[@tarheel7406]

Clearly you have no clue as to the complications involved with the ACC situation.

[@wolferstein3236]

I am aware of the contract, however once again conferences will do anything to get a school they want to join their ranks. If SEC or B10 really wanted either FSU or Clemson they would not be in the ACC right now. Its not that complicated

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@wolferstein3236 I’ve read that both, the FSU attorneys and the Clemson attorneys have provided documentation to the courts that they have not been in any contact with either the B1G or SEC in any way whatsoever for possible realignment moves. The ACC is poised with a hair trigger to jump all over either school and either of those two conferences if proven otherwise. Until one or both of those schools announce their official intentions to leave the ACC, neither the B1G nor SEC would subject themselves to any legal ramifications that could severely jeopardize their athletic conferences.

[@tarheel7406]

@@wolferstein3236 Simple solutions for the simple minded. It takes a unanimous vote to release a member from the ACC's GOR. At some point, everything becomes cost prohibitive.

[@tarheel7406]

@@wolferstein3236 Also, the SEC and B1G have been trying for UNC (and UVA) for years. Neither have been willing; neither are currently able.

[@terryrich4889]

Ginger acc is stronger than you think. They can survive 3 or 4 teams leaving. The acc payout this year was 45 million per team. Big12 was barley 30 million top teams group 5 teams 18 million. Why would you take a pay cut going to the big 12. Do you expect espn to drop the acc and then show the group of 5 games. ESPN makes money showing sports and acc damming good basketball conference. Sports is espn business and acc has plenty of fans up and down the east coast. Big 12 should be worried as of now thier in the acc footprint. Over the years sc, big8 and big12 is the most poached conference. With that said Ginger, regroupe.

[@Goeers206]

The projected payouts for the Big 12 starting in 2025 is 50m per school. You take 4 teams from the ACC if it falls apart and that number will only go up.

[@abourneidentity4208]

Without FSU CLEMSON UNC +1 ND +1 (SEC/B1G) LVILLE VT NCST (BIG12) ESPN would crush ACC in a renegotiated deal, pushing LVILLE VT etc out the door

[@tarheel7406]

@@Goeers206 So ignorant. That ~$50M includes non-media revenue that all conferences can and will get.

[@Goeers206]

@tarheel7406 So making a factual statement about the projected payouts is now ignorant? You can't handle the fact I made you look like the fool you are on Couz' channel can you.

[@tarheel7406]

@@Goeers206 Comparing apples to oranges is either fraudulent or ignorant. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

[@jayboogie1295]

Miami, FSU, Clemson and UNC are heading to the big10. The only issue is the uncertainty of how much they have to pay to leave the acc but it’s already a done deal

[@jansonroberts2616]

LOL.

[@adamb6370]

Great idea….except the BIG can only take 2 schools right now unless they want to go back and renegotiate with Fox

[@tarheel7406]

Nope. Assuming the SEC and B1G are only going to 20.... a) The SEC takes UNC/CLEMSON and waits out UVA+1 b) The B1G waits out ND+1 c) FSU is forced to join the BIG12 Everything else stays the same.

[@adamb6370]

@@tarheel7406 I could see a deal being reached allowing tier 1 with ND being independent. But having to keep to an equal tier 1 schedule. Having to play 8-10 games in the BIG/ SEC.

[@tarheel7406]

@@adamb6370 How? Near 100% that ND had to affirm its ACC commitments and agree to not leave until 2036 to get CAL+2 approved.

[@scruff1026]

Get Florida St and Clemson in SEC and let the Big10 have whoever else they want in the country will not matter at that point.

[@tarheel7406]

Curious... For how long and by how many processionals reporting will it take for people to understand that CLEMSON and FSU are not expansion priorities for the SEC?

[@brotherjayblaze3947]

THERE GOING TO THE BIG 10,..1A.. it’s already said THAT SEC DOES NOT WANT to add to their conference. If so, we would be one or maybe a slim chance of another but , MIAMI , FLORIDA STATE, because of the deal with Florida gators

[@tarheel7406]

The SEC is not going to just pass on UNC and UVA.

[@davidvines6498]

The SEC does not want to initiate an invite, but would consider and vote on the right teams if they ask to join

[@tarheel7406]

Curious... For how long and by how many processionals reporting will it take for people to understand that CLEMSON and FSU are not expansion priorities for the SEC?

[@jazzboneplaya]

Love many of your videos... But when it comes to CFB, why you always dumping on teams not in the power conferences? Just curious.... All this realignment has ruined college football interest from fans in general. The video game may help resurrect interest in teams other than the top 10 or so. I hope so cause what's been happening the last 15 years is not great for the sport.

[@gregwoods5159]

Fsu clemson wont go sec cause tired of dealing with espn way got treated by then they headed to big grow a brain

[@davidsmith8278]

Yes, I agree with you on that but also I just don’t think the SEC is interested in Florida State or Clemson because they already have Florida and South Carolina in those two states. I think they’re more likely to end up in the Big Ten because of that and a break from ESPN would probably be good for them as well.

[@ButchRahman]

@@davidsmith8278 Everybody wants FSU. They bring eyeballs = $$$

[@davidsmith8278]

@@ButchRahman Florida State ratings lagged behind Clemson, the last decade or so

[@ButchRahman]

@@davidsmith8278 Yes - barely - for the best decade in Clemson history vs the worst decade for FSU in our lifetime. Now that FSU is back, things are back to normal. Clemson will be coveted by both the SEC and B1G as well, but FSU is the clear top piece on the board (outside of ND which isn’t in play).

[@davidsmith8278]

@@ButchRahman we will see this year. I would not discount Clemson, yet they are returning a very strong team again this year… although I don’t see them winning that first game against Georgia

[@FreeSpeechYouTube]

Yes, football revenue absolutely matters....but Kansas is a basketball school and always has been. It makes zero sense for KU to leave the top basketball conference. And yeah, I said it....the Big12 is the best basketball conference out there and it's not even close. The Big12 last year, without the additions of this year was the best basketball conference and wasn't even close.

[@tarheel7406]

The BIG12 is 2nd (at best) in men's basketball: Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A) ACC: 9-5-3 B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston) BIGEAST: 6-4-4 SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK) B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA) ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams) BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams) B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams)

[@FreeSpeechYouTube]

@tarheel7406 Makes no sense... Why would you exclude the Gooners, a team that was apart of the conference going back to the Big8 days, since 1919 but not exclude Texas that has only been apart the conference since 1994? Did you include Arizona and Utah that are now in the Big12? Your entire premise is flawed from the get-go. I suspect you included and omitted based on whatever was most advantageous to your argument and not what is factually correct. Very dishonest of you.....

[@tarheel7406]

@@FreeSpeechKZbin The measure if based on programs and adjusted for realignment. The BIG12 is not the best in basketball even measured over its recent peak years. Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 1985-2024, 2020 N/A) ACC: 40-22-12 (Excludes MD; includes L'VILLE, CUSE & STANFORD) B12: 22-11-5 (Excludes OK & TX; includes ARIZ, CINCY, UTAH & HOUSTON) BIGEAST: 18-11-9 (Includes MARQ) SEC: 26-11-6 (Includes OK, ARK & TX) B1G: 34-11-5 (Includes UCLA, MD & OREGON) BTW... I pick a measure and then find the results. I see that you haven't offered anything. The BIG12 is overrated since NCAAT results don't match.

[@haydenguy2623]

I hope you’re one industry plant being paid to reveal the info early and test the public response. Cause as an FSU fan I’ve been waiting on this for over 2 years

[@joecartwright9221]

The ACC IS DEAD 💀 WITHOUT CLEMSON & FSU. ESPN and Disney will decide where those teams will go. There will be 3 Power Conferences, Big 12 , Big 10 , SEC.

[@tarheel7406]

The BIG12 is already dead in this context. There will be no peer P3.

[@troywest7045]

B1G be like: Partial shares for you, Partial shares for you, Partial shares for you.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@troywest7045 Agreed. Greg Flugaur, on his podcast, Peek around the corner, talked some in his recent video about that. Oregon and Washington are only getting half shares. Other than Notre Dame, who’s named specifically in the B1G media contract, any other adds would have to come in at the level of Oregon and Washington or the B1G would have to give full shares to Oregon and Washington first before giving anyone else full shares.

[@Tigersfan081982]

Notre Dame doesn’t need to join a conference. They are their own ATM machine and they will get a playoff spot due to the fact they will bring in people

[@TheHamsterfist]

Just wait until it is only the B10 vs SEC in a similar AFC/NFC format. They will squeeze ND out.

[@kevinbond8966]

​@@TheHamsterfist ND will join a P2 conference in that case.

[@powerofk]

@@TheHamsterfist It looks like this is the way college football is heading. Having 32 team B1G and SEC would be a nightmare. Seriously. College athletics conferences were relatively stable for decades, and then they start getting shaken up in the late 90s (first slowly, and then more and more quickly the last 20 years).

[@scotttild]

@@TheHamsterfistSpot on But I think the Big 12 is also going to survive. It will be three major conferences. Big 10, SEC and Big 12. Rest will be around for Basketball and other sports until another school sue for limited access to the playoffs and it starts all over again. Just do away with college conf. Go to 4 West, Northwest, South and East. Easy solution.

[@ChrisSadowski-pp1np]

​@@TheHamsterfistThe Big 12 would do a scheduling agreement with ND. The SEC would also do it just to keep them out of the BIG.

[@nateg4582]

To be honest FSU and Clemson to the SEC seems very likely to happen.

[@tarheel7406]

For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC?

[@davidvines6498]

The SEC and Big10 are not going to invite Teams to their Conferences. That would open them to litigation from Conferences and the Teams left behind.

[@tarheel7406]

The SEC is not going to just pass on 2 elite southern flagships it has wanted for decades. The SEC would be thrilled if things stopped there.

[@jamiethornton6101]

The SEC isn't adding Louisville. They are going all in on UNC with a plus one. The SEC has the SEC netowrk and are building a huge new operations center in Charlotte. It's the fastest growing state in the nation. The SEC is making UNC it's priority one. UNC also lost it's long time chancellor who had been talking to Delaney for years, to Michigan State. The Politics in North Carolina, made it state law where the NC BOG (they control UNC NC State and a bunch of other smaller schools) controlls ALL CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT CHOICES. Those guys are pro SEC and the new Chancellor at UNC, was hand picked by those guys. So just go look at the leadership changes at UNC over the last 18 months. Even the UNC BOT have had changes and replaced with people who favor the SEC.

[@tarheel7406]

That pro B1G Chancellor wasn't lost, he was run out per my understanding.

[@jamiethornton6101]

@@tarheel7406 yes he was ran out.

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

Do not see any ACC team getting out of the GOR before August 15th. That is the date FSU or others have to declare they are leaving this year. Only FSU is desperate enough to hop in bed with Private Equity. Signing over 8-15% every year for 40+ years. UNC ,NCSU or Duke are tied together. UNC might be forced to play NC Schools but that is it. UNC-Duke will happen every year. Will it be 2 games a year, that is the question. There has been a little rumor about SEC not caring about expanding football schools. But to build a basketball wing. Add UNC, Duke, Virginia, UCONN and Kansas with already in Conference Kentucky.

[@ronelite582]

You are spot on with Duke, UNC, UVA, and Kansas as SEC expansion targets. I don’t see UConn as an add. They are not geographically contiguous to the south, and culturally a better Big ten fit similar to Notre Dame. Clemson and Oklahoma St would be the football adds along with those programs.

[@roymonson9229]

Florida st is joining big! Beyond that nobody knows.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@roymonson9229 saw a report today that FSU has met with the Big12 through third parties as part of their due diligence in case they do not get invites from either the B1G or the SEC. It does not mean that FSU won’t get an invite to one of those power 2 big boy conferences, it just means that no one is assured of anything yet.

[@tarheel7406]

50/50 FSU goes B1G or BIG12.

[@nateg4582]

Not an AAU MEMBER

[@roymonson9229]

@@nateg4582 doesn’t matter this round of expansion. This is about money and the tv networks are pushing this.

[@greghodgson7917]

What is with the sec and their footprint, if nd came knocking, they would blow up the footprint immediately. I honestly do not think any of the acc teams would add money to the bigten, they would dilute the shares, nd is the only value left. Let the big 12 and sec duke it out over the acc.

[@tarheel7406]

I doubt the SEC would erode its brand for ND. Yes please, let the B1G stay as it is.

[@luddite4change449]

4 conferences of 16 teams. It just makes to much sense.

[@bluedog9935]

The B1G is already at 18 teams. It’s kinda crazy. Like an arms race between two superpowers. I like your idea better…

[@luddite4change449]

@@bluedog9935 Perhaps they are going for one conference of 32 and two of 16.

[@MichaelG-ur1dd]

Florida st is going to the big ten period

[@tarheel7406]

If the B1G will only go to 20 and will wait out ND and its demanded +1, how does FSU land in the B1G in the foreseeable?

[@gamerryanbanana9672]

Where do you think Louisville ends up?

[@kevinbond8966]

Big 12 or the ACC or some weird new shitty conference.

[@scotttild]

A re built Pac 12 with Stanford and Cal when the ACC falls apart…Only Half Kidding.

[@ChaseEagleback]

Big 12 ultimately will be their landing spot is my best guess.

[@tarheel7406]

A rebuilt Tier 2 ACC.

[@Jason-ru3fv]

The AMERICAN 🎉

[@terryrich4889]

Have not heard unc anounce leaving the acc. Don't think they want to pay 500 million. The best move acc and big 12 could do is merge and form a new league. Let's face it, acc and big12 will never catch the big 2 in finance. Disband and back out you contracts, then renegotiate with the many network, espn, abc, tnt prime, cw and ion for Thursday, Friday and Saturday games. That could be what can save both acc and big 12 and pay more money.

[@jansonroberts2616]

No one has announced they were leaving the ACC since Maryland did it.

[@tarheel7406]

Give it up. Such a merger is dilutive to the ACC, certainly to the top brands. The ACC would have to first deplete down to the BIG12's Tier 2 level, and even then it wouldn't make sense. Smaller Tier 2 regionals would have a higher total value that larger conferences.

[@terryrich4889]

​@@tarheel7406These 2 conference is better off going thier own direction. Sec and big10 seems to be the media favorites for money, even though their no better. It what you call perception. Some times you need to stop playing that game and do your own thing. There are plenty of networks , prime, apple TNT and others.

[@tarheel7406]

@@terryrich4889 Yes, the SEC and B1G will go their own direction after the P2 consolidation. Still doesn't mean that one big Tier 2 conference or league makes any sense.

[@jetsteeltherealdeal7827]

College football needed a total overhaul…I love the chaos

[@judahalexander6946]

Same here! Love it

[@MarkHoezee]

22 teams and ya only play 9 conference games in football in the big ten. You might not play certain teams for 3 years or more.

[@RaymondPexton]

Clemson and Florida state to SEC, and maybe get notre dame and miami.

[@tarheel7406]

Curious... For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that CLEMSON and FSU are low expansion priorities for the SEC (and B1G)? Why would the SEC erode its brand with ND?

[@WilliamBush-bg7ei]

Thoughts on uva?

[@joe_zeay]

B1G needs Fsu Clem to balance the Quality vs Sec not in Quantity

[@tarheel7406]

~50% chance that FSU lands in the B1G. ~0% chance CLEMSON lands in the B1G.

[@jansonroberts2616]

They’d need much much more than that has shown by historical records.

[@joe_zeay]

@@jansonroberts2616 exactly. Thats why sec should give b1g the table scraps of Fsu and Clem as charitable donations 😆 Sec has bigger fish to fry in adding Unc and expanding footprint. Perhaps even adding KU as well and amass the top basketball conf with Kentucky Unc Kansas

[@nateg4582]

​@@tarheel7406I can kinda see the odds but the two are not AAU members.

[@tarheel7406]

@@nateg4582 Huh? BTW... I've since lowered the odds for FSU: ~25% chance that FSU lands in the B1G. ~0% chance CLEMSON lands in the B1G. Nevertheless, the B1G has a compelling need to address its demo concerns by expanding south notwithstanding historical preferences. Near 100% losing UNC to the SEC and UVA going dark has likely forced the B1G to reevaluate its options.

[@davidkreitzer4401]

Correction, the first domino that kickstarted all of the realignment, Nebraska to the B1G. Nothing happening from then to now would be occurring without that boss move.

[@ElectrifyingUno]

Penn State going to the big ten in 1990 🤔

[@tarheel7406]

The BIG12 was the weakest original P5. Too new, surrounded by better competition. If the BIG12's relative position was the only factor in play, we could have had a P4. It wasn't the only such factor.

[@tarheel7406]

@@ElectrifyingUno PSU was an indy rather than a poach. I will say that PSU going B1G rather than ACC resulted in the latter expanding with too many former old BIGEAST schools.

[@matthewjones4037]

GEORGIA TECH joins big10 Vandy Arkansas and App state go to ACC

[@Hurricanehicks01]

Lots of speculation

[@assassssasa]

Would UNC want to leave Duke and put acc basketball at risk

[@dizzyizzy7247]

Should Miami join the SEC?

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

Notre Dame is getting a raw deal from NBC/Peacock. They are getting 22M from their TV contract which is crap. That does not cover the money that they have to set aside to pay players present and past. Plus they could go undefeated and the highest playoff position is No.7. to start the playoff. All ACC & Big 12 teams get more money than that. SEC & B1G teams get 3 to 4 times that. Independence does not sound that great with those numbers.

[@viralshorts9596]

link to article??

[@superduty2023]

Depressed Ginger/Eric Trump 2028

[@RTD3]

Clemson and FSU going to the Big XII.

[@tarheel7406]

FSU ~100%; CLEMSON ~10%

[@paulochoa5281]

Fsu texas am. Unc. Duke. Miami fl Virginia norte dame Stanford California Georgia tech big ten sec. Clemson sm u. Wake forest. Virginia tech nc state

[@bama2dabone229]

I think it would be smart for the SEC to help ACC stay together by loaning them money and scheduling more of ACC teams, Just to keep the B1G out of Florida Georgia and Texas

[@djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853]

First order of business for the SEC and Big Ten should be to cut the fat. They can take more of the quality from the ACC if they cut the fat out of their own conference. Vandy, Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana all don’t bring anything to the table and can be replaced by schools that bring more value

[@jansonroberts2616]

It’ll never happen.

[@brocksanders5135]

Illinois and Indiana are big markets and Rutgers invented football, idk ab vandy 😭

[@colindavidch]

The only team I could see the big ten adding that would make sense would be Norte Dame and if they did that they would probably want to add someone else so they have an even amount of teams in the conference so I guess a Oregon state or Washington state you could also throw in there

[@tarheel7406]

LOL... Recent events suggests that it will be ND/MIAMI when/if/can ND joins the B1G.

[@jimedick9496]

@@tarheel7406 It’s possible it could be Stanford due to their rivalry. Miami makes sense as well.

[@tarheel7406]

@@jimedick9496 The word is that STANFORD a) doesn't want to share research assets and b) doesn't want to operate in the future Tier 1 environment.

[@jimedick9496]

@@tarheel7406 I’ve never heard Stanford holding back research info from other PAC members, but I could be wrong. If that was truly the case, why doesn’t Stanford just go the way of ND and go independent? Again, I’m assuming. I don’t know one way or the other.

[@tarheel7406]

@@jimedick9496 a) It's my understanding that the BTAA is far more involved than similar arrangements. b) Would going Indy provide the same level of athletic competition for STANFORD's overall sports? As things stand, it has upgraded. c) I only posted what I have consistently read here and there, hence "the word".

[@mbj6610]

Utah will head to the big 10

[@tarheel7406]

After what feasible chain of events?

[@paulochoa5281]

This a guy a joke 😂

[@whatlol_e]

speak english

[@davidbrown386]

The NC Bog and UNC BOT want UNC in the SEC

[@fanman71]

Stop. B1G has little interest in KU & GT, that absurd. People talking about the Atlanta market is just plain wrong. 90% of that market is owned by UGA.

[@Southsidechild08]

SEC: we don’t want FSU or Clemson Podcasters: FSU and Clemson are definitely going to the SEC!!!!!

[@jansonroberts2616]

No one with any authority in the SEC has said that at all. Fans say all kind of crap. Doesn’t make it so. The SEC itself hasn’t said anything about FSU or Clemson concerning expansion.

[@tarheel7406]

@@jansonroberts2616 Many professionals have reported on SEC expansion priorities, many citing unnamed insiders.

[@peterungaro194]

Kansas will join the SEC, talks were high back in 2014 but football was bad. Now football has greatly improved along with investment in new stadium upgrades

[@dougwatchesiowastate]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 dream on

[@adamb6370]

I could see this as an enticer to bring in UNC. Putting UNC, Kansas and UK all in the same conference. Also bring back the border war with Mizzou.

[@tarheel7406]

@@adamb6370 KANSAS is fine either way from the UNC perspective. UVA and DUKE are another matter.

[@TrocarSlushWeasel]

5:25 I think there's a better chance of Duke eliminating football than joining the SEC.

[@ronelite582]

You would be wrong… very wrong.

[@TrocarSlushWeasel]

@@ronelite582 The SEC doesn't want Duke any more than Duke wants to go to the SEC.

[@ronelite582]

@@TrocarSlushWeasel 🤦‍♂️ do yourself a favor and never make posts/comments regarding Duke.. ever.

[@TrocarSlushWeasel]

@@ronelite582 Whatever you say.

[@tarheel7406]

Apparently there were standing SEC invites for UNC/DUKE for years, likely still are. From Nielsen: ACC Leaders in Media Exposure Value (Last 3 Years) 1. Duke men’s basketball ($995.0M) 2. UNC men’s basketball ($892.5M) 3. FSU football ($795.2M) 4. Clemson football ($677.1M)

[@michaelleroy9281]

Just rename the Big Ten to the Big 18

[@nyfinest017]

The ACC got exposed badly last year, with the committee leaving an undefeated team outside the National Title spot. No one or, in this case, college would want a weak conference kowtow to others and a crappy television deal. I think that NC and Duke are attached to the hip, and if one leaves the conference, the other will follow.

[@tarheel7406]

Not really. FSU got exposed as not being respected or the brand it thinks it is. I'd bet CLEMSON, MIAMI, UNC or UVA would not have been snubbed if the roles were reversed.

[@nyfinest017]

@tarheel7406 None of those schools would have been in because the board members were dead set on putting Alabama in the fourth spot, and they had to put Texas in the third due to them beating Alabama. FSU srarting players opted out since it would have been a waste of time and risk their draft stock not playing for the championship. Let's be clear. The SEC has too much power in the board committee.

[@tarheel7406]

@@nyfinest017 I disagree. While FSU would not have been snubbed if an SEC team had already made the playoff, it being disrespected, etc., made that sub easier,

[@nyfinest017]

@tarheel7406 Bro. So are you going to ignore that the committee is forced to put one SEC team in the national title contention even though other teams are undefeated and both of the SEC teams have one loss? Call as you must to make yourself feel good, but it was clear the committee was afraid of loss of revenue if Alabama was not in the title race and the lawsuit that would have come from not placing them in. The argument about Jordan Travis injury makes worse since apparently the "next man up" only applies to Alabama.

[@tarheel7406]

@@nyfinest017 Bro... Read my comment again. I didn't ignore the CFP's interest in getting an SEC into the playoff. FSU being disrespected as an entity, etc. made that snub easier.

[@toddalexander1903]

Kansas needs to join the SEC.

[@waynebennett745]

🙅‍♂️

[@49ersrocketsrider2]

NO THEY DO NOT!! North Carolina needs to join SEC..

[@ronelite582]

@@49ersrocketsrider2UNC, Duke, UVA, and Kansas will be in the SEC sooner rather than later.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Wow! Ginger is doing an actual sports video. I guess his grifting off MAGAts isnt working anymore

[@BrentFanan]

You’ve taken L after L this past week HAHAHAHA

[@dustinsindledecker154]

@@BrentFanan i am just saying Ginger is now becoming a political grifter. I wish he would stick to sports. That is what he is good at

[@SomeGuy-ds7pl]

@@dustinsindledecker154you only hate his political videos because he has diffrent opinions then you and isnt an insane liberal

[@kevinbond8966]

​@@dustinsindledecker154if he was a Democrat would he be a grifter?

[@upbeatproductions7614]

@@dustinsindledecker154He used to only do political videos before doing sports…he just wants America to be respected, you want us to stay a 🤡 show.

[@joshheitman6832]

This is exactly why I don’t care about college football anymore. I have not watched a game in two years. The last time I watch college football and college basketball on a regular basis was before the pandemic happened. I was already tuned out of the so-called college football playoffs because of all the SEC bias and the fact that the Group of 5 had little to no chance of getting in (Central Florida anyone?). I used to be a fan of Ohio State when I watched college sports. I didn’t watch a whole lot of sports during the pandemic mainly due to so many player being out with Covid and a bunch of games being cancelled because of it. Anyway, ever since UCLA and USC decided to join the Big Ten, I decided I was done with college sports. This new landscape is an absolute disaster. All they care about is money. They don’t care about us fans (or now former fans) who want to watch the games, the geography, the history, the traditions, or even the rivalries. It’s all about money. Eventually they will end up losing money since they’re already losing a bunch of fans. I now find something else to do on Saturdays during football season and I still watch professional sports. I will also try to get into the UFL when they start their new season depending on whether or not I’m still burned out on football since the NFL now has a 17 game season and that is a but too much for me. As much as I enjoy football, I can’t do a 17 game season. It’s impossible to keep up with that many games