The NFC North's worst nightmare is itself.

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[@Groppler]

This will be a great episode to check back in on later this season. The Jordan Love hand wringing and the Bears worship after beating a bunch of bad teams is going to look so silly

[@Amazeballz69]

It's really gonna be so funny. He's using a small ass sample size to say Love is bad against the blitz when last year he was excellent against it.

[@KyleIscher]

Perfect time to do this. All teams will get cursed this week and suffer. Oh, look at that Chicago is on a bye. What are the odds?

[@DreamFearless]

Well 2 are playing each other and GB has the Texans. Seems like 2 (probably 3) will automatically remain pretty thrilled.

[@michigunsanta8680]

Well one has to win the rest can lose. 👍🏻

[@n8dawg640]

Exactly, this is perfect

[@seandacoffeeguy]

Or the dreaded tie game...

[@louisl9741]

Did this on purpose

[@WeabooMilk]

With that Free Pick, Rodgers' achilles has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever again

[@moistnar]

Sometimes for fun I like to imagine the Underdog office that night when they realized their 0.5 yard over PROMO for Rodgers passing yards was gonna miss lmao

[@michaelbeale559]

​@@moistnar They had a promo last year with Pickens for over 0.5 yards receiving. He had negative yards and played the entire game.

[@Embur12]

EJ, that hot take of the Lions defense sucking horribly, even without Hutch, is pretty lame. They're a young squad that is improving week to week.

[@FlyingRatAttack]

The thing about Goff's efficiency issues when seeing pressure from only 4 rushers is that his OL very rarely allows pressure from only 4 rushers lol

[@85isaboat53]

Yeah they are really good

[@CherryDad]

This lol

[@stevechosay8756]

Yeah, if Minnesota was good enough to rush 4 consistently and cover, they'd be doing that and not blitzing as much. And he doesn't acknowledge that the Detroit oline is one of the best in the league.

[@85isaboat53]

@stevechosay8756 in fairness, the also missed last week that bj Hill and Sheldon rankins have been hurt for the bengals for 3weeks

[@Nichrysalis]

​@@stevechosay8756 They wouldn't be doing that regardless because Brian Flores is Brian Flores.

[@stolve8847]

One thing I learned as a Miami fan. Flo gonna flo. He ain't gonna stop blitzing. Not Sunday, not ever.

[@blaise3139]

I respect it

[@brianw3656]

Every year it proves to be a failed strategy otherwise every team would be doing it

[@clutchcunningham2341]

Aged perfectly

[@chrisbarr959]

Florez ends up blitzing 52% of the time and Goff decimated them

[@JJ-zr6fu]

I’m not worried about Caleb Williams deep passing he’s going to get it dialed in

[@kyledabearsfan]

He's young and our schedule is gonna get tough. There will be bumps, but that's expected. We just have to be patient and give him time to keep improving. The team looks good though.

[@Acrnavy]

I’m warming up to Waldron pretty quickly. I like how he’s adapting with the offense. It’s very encouraging to see both him and Caleb develop together, just assumed he would have a higher floor as an offensive mind. Still, I like the direction.

[@jonathanbillingslea1262]

It's crazy how yall talked about Goff's numbers without talking about the run game. Detroit has the best o line in the league so getting pressure with 4 doesn't happen often.

[@nikodraganic]

Love has the same start as the last season, the difference being his defense is winning him games. He'll get rid od the INTs and look scary at the end of the season.

[@kingbob820]

To Brett: my grandparents have skiied Beaver creek since the 80s when it first opened and I’ve been going since I was a kid. Great place, it keeps growing.

[@BootlegFootball]

Love Beaver Creek!

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

The Midwest will fight until the very end once the coasts have been invaded!! Long live the north!!! 🇺🇸🦅🟣🟡

[@Str1fe5]

Gotta say if the Bears Achilles heel is just that they need to hit on some deep throws outside the numbers (that have been open already this year) I’m now pretty confident in this team. As you said, only 19 such attempts this year. Still could easily be a sample size issue, and is the kind of thing you can work on and get better as the year goes along. 🐻⬇️

[@tkfort]

Us bears fan don’t really expect to win the divisions or dominate against the division. We still have a rookie qb. However, he is our guys going forward and Caleb IS THAT DUDE. The easy schedule until we play Green Bay might carry us to the playoffs

[@tomfoolery5680]

I'm a die hard Bears fan. That being said, they have the toughest remaining schedule in the league. Tbh though, I never thought this was "the year".

[@venom18s]

Chicago doesn’t even need to compete this year. They’ve got their QB of the future in his first year. They’ve got plenty of time. And if they do well this year then they’re just ahead of schedule

[@travisstase1577]

End of the season, when you guys walk back the hyperbolic arm flailing about Jordan Love's INT's, us Packers fans will remind you we lived through Brett Favre. 😂

[@joshlindemeier2434]

MN grown Vikes supporter here…first time watcher and now subscriber…one of the best NON-FANBOY analysis I have seen…using proper metrics and even challenging those metrics by removing certain games or looking in to contrasting metrics to truly assess and have a check and balance to understand the metric… I will give you one great example the last three games Justin Jefferson has tore up the lions… but what was the score in those games who walked away with the W? Yes it might highlight a concern, but as our head coach. KOC , always does is ask the ”WHY”… understanding, the “WHY” is the most important second only to the quote “WHY NOT”… Also assessing teams from a division standpoint is huge, no matter whether it is the best division in football or the worst because all of these teams play each other twice and the value of these games within the division, and in the conference are so significant

[@trevorcarskadon]

Ironic, last year the opener free pick was Rodgers getting 1 yard. And people did not get off on the right foot, and it was everyone's Achilles Heel. I wonder what that means for this week.

[@oneputt4152]

the bears fatal flaw is their entire offense and coaching, excited to watch their pending implosion

[@owtkvst]

lol.

[@DTOStudios]

Love tore up the blitz last year, and this year two of his games his leg was clearly bothering him a lot. I imagine now that his leg is healthy we'll see more of the Love last year that was if i remember right best in the league or close to it against the blitz

[@papapeaches0149]

I was just gonna say this. He had a super high passer rating against the blitz last year, so I assume part of this is just the fact that he’s uncomfortable.

[@kevinpochowski4855]

So, the thing about Jordan Love is he’s legitimately a mixture of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers somehow. From week to week, you don’t exactly know which traits are gonna show up, but man he’s got the balls and confidence to try any throw. Sometimes good like the Reed catch vs the Rams. Sometimes soul crushing like the cross body interception to kill the Division round comeback vs the 49ers.

[@Nichrysalis]

He definitely leans Favre in terms of decision making and looks more like Rodgers in terms of mechanics. He needs to run some like Rodgers would do. Sometimes the field in front of him is open and he's still waiting for someone to come open.

[@colebertrand9449]

The Arizona Doubs throw was a great play to recognize the blitz, see the DB with his back turned and give his guy a chance to make a play, at worst it’s an incomplete ball

[@kevinpochowski4855]

@@robdaniel3211 cool

[@williamhermann6635]

Hes thrown 17 interceptions in his career. Favre threw 37 after his first 2 years as a starter. Jordan Love is Jordan Love.

[@williamhermann6635]

​@@robdaniel3211 Oh quit hating. It was a back shoulder fade that got executed perfectly. Dont be salty cuz your qb cant do that.

[@Roy-mw5js]

The NFL is amazing. It has been able to give people an opportunity to make a living without knowing anything about the product they talk about.😊

[@chrishermon2068]

I did enjoy it. Very much. Please continue with other divisions. However, all your content is great so I’m happy either way. I’ve learned more from your podcasts than from any other source, including the official NFL stuff. Long may it continue. Cheers from the UK!

[@johnairhart769]

After that lions Vikings game both teams proved they are gonna be the division leaders imo. That’s coming as a bears fan too

[@Snoil]

This division is wicked. I tried warning everyone about the arms race going on up here, some listened some did not. Mostly it was other NFCN fans that listened. Brett and EJ probably already recall I am a long suffering Lions fan. To our 3 rivals, Brad and Dan are not going to let you think of us as the loveable goofballs we used to be. 8>D GAME ON NFCN! PS-LOVE MY BOOTLEG FOOTBALL!

[@kyledabearsfan]

I told this to my coworker at the end of last year (he's a big cowboys fan) so he just said "nah, the Lions are the only good team you guys have". The irony of that now 😂 I just told him "just wait, tons of talent in the NFC North"

[@AustinPowers909]

Brett you’ve been off on these predictions on these lions so keep doing you homie favor everyone against the lions cuz we’ll keep proving you wrong!

[@TheAlexbower]

The issue is if you don’t blitz Goff and you let him just sit there in the pocket he will kill you and you never brought up the strength of the team isn’t even the passing game it’s running the ball with the best RB room in the NFL. Goff doesn’t get much pressure on 4 man rushes.

[@stolve8847]

Seems like it'd be tough to get pressure with 4 vs the best Oline in the league.

[@philthyballs]

Bears didn’t blitz and he averaged 3 picks a game. You take out the running game and make him one dimensional he makes bad decisions.

[@GlacialScion]

​@@philthyballs But who's taking out their running game this year?

[@philthyballs]

@@GlacialScion the bears they did it last year with a worse defensive line than they have this year

[@philthyballs]

@@GlacialScion so in reality any team that has a well coached and called defense

[@Scottishbear582]

Nobody is talking about the bears. A pattern is emerging. The bears have not been beaten at home in over a calendar year. And the D hasn't given up more than 21 points in the same time span. The NFC North & NFL better hope Caleb Williams & the offense don't catch up 🐻⬇️

[@jessemontgomery8987]

Don't worry the north will break that streak, or the niners, or the seahawks.

[@Scottishbear582]

​@jessemontgomery8987 It certainly won't be the 49ers the Bears don't play them at S Feild. And the seahawks coming to Chicago bears will be a boat race easy win for Chicago. The Packers are the most difficult game at home for the bears.

[@jessemontgomery8987]

@@Scottishbear582 so not the lions or the vikings?

[@Scottishbear582]

​@jessemontgomery8987 Chicago will beat both at Soldier Field. Possibly beat the lions away. Flus, has Ben Johnson number. We won't beat the Vikings away. It's a metal block with the bears v green bay. No matter where the bears play them.

[@Embur12]

​@@Scottishbear582Detroits improved defense, even without Hutch isn't gonna let "da bears" sweep the series.

[@Schaffj3]

I have to disagree with EJ on the Bears OLine not having a mid season savior…Ryan Bates is the key to everything! He said with heavy sarcasm!

[@adamrielh]

Last time I was this early, Matt Ryan was a Colt.

[@goodsoop420]

Last time I was this early, PHILLIP RIVERS was a Colt

[@FirstOfTheMagi]

@@goodsoop420 Last time I was this early, my WIFE left me

[@BigHatMatt]

Love your guys content, and love that you guys are slightly Bears-favored place. When it comes to those that cover all 32, it has been RARE to hear people who don't constantly drool a bit over Packers. I finally know what true optimism looks like under Poles/with Caleb, and am looking forward to the time when I hear Packers fans upset about people always favoring the Bears in media coverage.

[@BM-si2ei]

As a Vikings fan, I think Poles is overall a good GM and Caleb is incredibly promising. Also as a Vikings fan, I love that Eberflus is the Bears head coach and hope they give him a lifetime contract.

[@DTOStudios]

I mean you say they aren't drooling over the Packers. If the Packers Achilles heel is Love not playing well against the blitz, when he was playing injured for 2 games and he was best against the blitz last year, look out. And Love is second in the NFL in TDs missing a third of the season so far. So yeah there's a reason people like the Packers

[@qwikscopez6619]

As a new Packers fan, I am in the market for analysis that is packer centric, are there any GOOD analysts like Brett level or there abouts who like the Packers a tad more? Edit: big tom grossi fan already

[@matthewcoombes4577]

​@@qwikscopez6619there is tom grossi. He isn't on the same level as Brett but he is pretty good.

[@qwikscopez6619]

@@matthewcoombes4577 I love tom haha, I kinda forgot there's no reason anyone would know that

[@BM-si2ei]

I thought Aaron Schatz had the best take this preseason about Jordan Love. He was on...someone's podcast, I no longer remember, but he was talking about how the conventional wisdom is that Jordan Love spent half the year figuring it out, and then learned and was excellent in the second half of 2023. He said the data shows that this normally isn't the case, and that he is most likely both the first and second half players. This has, thus far, proven to be true this year. Top 5 highs, and head scratching lows.

[@1_underthesun]

Little terrifying for the rest of the NFC North if you're saying the Packer achilleas heel is Jordan Love.....

[@BootlegFootball]

Exactly lol

[@rizeagle33]

For bears o line I would get wyatt teller if I could. Plug bates in at center and then you either have Pryor as the main backup or if you want to get crazy kick Pryor out to rt and then move wright to lt and make Jones the swing with shelton as the interior back up.

[@rickycarrara966]

If you happen to do another ep like this, I’d like to see what are the strengths of each team relative to the division alongside with their weakness. i.e. Lions has the best OL, might open space for all the Ben Johnson creativity calling plays.

[@MonteCarlo-rx4hu]

Jordan Love is two weeks behind on his preseason, Goff is a couple weeks ahead of the same problem, I'm pretty sure darnold had to play preseason so he came out hot, and Caleb Williams just got to the NFL and he had to adjust to the speed. They're all caught up now. Divisional matches will be interesting to say the least

[@TheHotepKing]

Darnold played one drive in the preseason. First drive against the raiders and that was it

[@TB17-]

Disagree with "any Bears OLine injury being potentially fatal", i think its the opposite actually. The starting line is so bad/average and they have depth of a few guys that are basically just as good as the starters because the starters aren't good lol. Only injury that might hurt a lot is Wright.

[@daleftuprightatsoldierfield]

I think there is a drop off between our starting and backup tackles that would concern me if someone went down, but this take is spot on for the interior

[@kclark8080]

How did that pass rush hold up for Detroit? Four sacks!

[@pascaljohnson9062]

Nice work and breakdown guys appreciate your insight.

[@Bearsssss122]

Ej is spot on with the bears receiver thing

[@MrXxblackopsxX]

I love this deep dive into the division that I've come to love/hate as a Bears fan. Could be cool to do a midseason recap and do a not-so-deep dive on how the division has shaken up with injuries, etc..

[@penultimate8643]

Something your missing is how many weapons the Lions have. They can't cover everyone. Somebody is going to get open for Goff. If they are only gonna rush four all game, I don't see them getting that much pressure against our O-line.

[@gamothelegend7712]

The bears match up the best with the lions weapons and on the flip side bears got too many weapons for the lions to cover

[@garrethboland]

Hell yes! NFC north episode!

[@bretbuchin1033]

As a Cheesehead, I can only concur with 10VE's mistakes. Goes from making awesome check downs and deep throws to overthrowing his dude or making bad bad choices as far as ball placement/movement. Great ceiling! But the kinda guy you know has a basement for a floor that WILL show up a few times a year. With that, Go Pack Go!

[@DarkNGG]

The joke at 35:15 about taking guys off the street to play oline for Green Bay is funny to me considering Madison consistently pumps out offensive linemen for the NFL (and RBs to a slightly lesser extent) so yeah you could drive down to Madison from Green Bay and pick yourself up some o-linemen.

[@thomasarnold8003]

I LOVE this style of episode. Now do one for the NFC west haha. We all bad

[@gaming_with_the_tales]

Love handling the blitz... He's only played one full game properly healthy for a start. And one pick was melton falling over. Will prove to be the best qb in the division this season by its conclusion

[@TheLordNugget]

It really seems like Shane Waldron is playing a chess match against himself. It's like he's responding to the expected response to what makes the most sense for him to run. At least, that was what it felt like early on. Hopefully the guy just stops overthinking things and lets the players just do what they do best.

[@josephboehmer1245]

Brett I hear what you're saying about Love. But you're just describing Favre so I don't care.

[@kyledabearsfan]

Caleb Williams has been improving but as fans, we have to stay patient. The schedule will get tougher and he will run into harder defenses like the Vikings. Team looks good and Caleb has been getting better. Im willing to be patient.

[@r.rousset]

The way the NFC North is going, The Packers could get 10-7 record, and still end up in last place

[@vanadyan1674]

Didn't Minnesota's achilles heel go to Atlanta?

[@vikrambansal1416]

5:30 ET upload you spoil me kollmann

[@King_Immanuel]

EJ was probably the one who uploaded this considering the time lol

[@jared1750]

Not a lover of any of these teams but I love the format. I like shakeups.

[@jeremypalmer7177]

Coming off injury. Look at last year's stats with Love against the blitz. He was unstoppable. The mistakes will gradually fall away.

[@justinw4514]

They probably won't fall away. Love is a fuck it chuck it gunslinger, the second coming of Brett Favre. He's gonna fire piss missiles 40 yards downfield. He's gonna sling it on the run back across his body for the worst interception you've ever seen. He's gonna fit a dime into triple coverage for a walk-off touchdown. But it's fine. It's riveting football and you can absolutely win games this way. Brett Favre is a Hall of Famer. You can throw 20 interceptions in a season and walk away with a Super Bowl as long as you throw 50 touchdowns to complement it, and Love is absolutely capable of doing that.

[@mattoleary811]

Im kind of baffled you think the Lions achilles heel is 4 rushers. Like anyone who can get pressure without blitzing is gonna be great against any team. The entire Lions offense is built around the Oline tho, so teams just cant get pressure consistently against them without blitzing. I don't even expect Minny to blitz less than they have really. Last year Flores called blitz a shit load against goff and while Minny's defense is certainly more balanced than it was last year Flores is still calling the blitz happiest D in the league.

[@BM-si2ei]

Flo literally had no other option at that point in the season last year, between injuries and lack of talent/depth. Their D has a much higher ceiling this year and has significantly more depth (outside of Corner. One injury there will be a significant issue). Comparing last year's D to this year's isn't as useful as you would think.

[@gamothelegend7712]

I think bears or packers would be a harder match up for the lions especially the bears they have elite secondary and good dline so if they get pressure Goff harder time passing against a good secondary

[@michaelpatras174]

What will change this analysis will be the trade deadline. It’ll be interesting what moves these teams make to try and position themselves in the division

[@rlhanks]

OMG, stop right there about pressuring Goff. If you think you're going to only bring four against that O-line, Gibbs and Monty and be consistent and successful. C'mon really? That's not a very smart plan but go ahead and try it. You are essentially giving Goff all day for some one to get open. Laporte, Amon, Jamo, Patrick, Gibbs are all excellent at breaking off routes to find a hole

[@gamothelegend7712]

U can’t act like it hasn’t been done just look at the bears they have had lions number Goff throws a lot pick against them and bears defense got better this year

[@Ashbach99]

Would love to see a vid on the NFC West and how you guys see it has gone

[@ShafroFos]

When he talks about Love and He says that teams win based on turnovers I agree. Which is why im not worried since Green Bay lead the league in takeaways on defense and turnover differential.

[@mercwithayoutube]

Bears do have Ryan Bates coming back he was suppose to be a starter to begin with

[@adeptusserpentus912]

The health of key players will be the brutal sorting hat come December.

[@Rateus_Johanson]

"Colossal amounts of dip on the chip" I'm not exactly sure what this criticism means, but it's a brilliant turn of phrase. Taking on throws that are too high risk?

[@ThomasB_N4G]

Something to think about. There are two teams in the NFC North, who are in rebuilding years. The Chicago Bears and the Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings are “rebuilding” let that sink in

[@thekingdogfoff8633]

Technically its win percentage against division and since chicaco hasnt played yet against a division rival it is 0% and 0%. So then it goes to common games, and since bears lost to colts where as packers won it is packers 3rd bears last.

[@hwnfrd]

How did Sam Darnold do against the then top rated defense of the Jets?, also what about a very good 49ers defense?

[@matthewstevens5450]

Extremely interesting perspective on Love. Decision making hasn't been as good but he was maybe the best QB in the league against the blitz the back half of last year. Then to start the year they played off sight, then against the Vikings and Rams he was clearly still getting comfortable with the knee, In the Cardinals game (against a bad defense) he was pretty much perfect with the pick being because of a WR slip. The knee looked 100%. You guys see it as a dip in his play, I see it as a set of unlucky circumstances for his first three starts then at home fully healthy against the Cardinals he played one of the best games of his career. I could be wrong but I really don't see it as a low point in his play, I expect that he'll look really good for the rest of the season, including against the blitz.

[@charlesmoore8185]

If the deep ball is our biggest issue then I’m not concerned at all. That will get better over time

[@garyphillips3552]

If he misses the field goal everything is different.

[@Stefan-r9y]

Vikings are gonna crowd the line the whole game and keep Goff guessing barely sending the blitz but fronting like they're gonna fire cover zero every 3 snaps, lions will counter with no huddle as much as possible

[@charlesmoore8185]

MORE NFC NORTH PLEASE

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

We packers fans are used to giving out backhanded compliments to our NFCN peers - qw, look at you, maybe you can be qs good as us some day. None of that this year. Top to bottom this is an entirely new and different NFCN and while I'm still not _entirelty_ 100% on the Bears these teams aren't just set up to be good this year. This division is for real wide open and every team has a chance to be best-in-nfl good.

[@BM-si2ei]

Well, every team except the Bears. They're good and ascending, but they're not in the conversation for best in the NFL.

[@VAViking]

Every team except the Packers. The quarterback does dumb shit too much. And they smell of cheese.

[@magz1868]

​@@VAVikingthat's the secret sauce to having good qbs, not that I would expect you to understand that..

[@VAViking]

@@magz1868 "QB does dumb shit" I believe was the quote. GEQBUS is way better than that turd Love

[@IngoWolf-q8z]

That's the sad result of winning nothing for 100 years.​@@VAViking

[@rodneylewisiii3225]

If chicagos Achilles hill is that we don’t hit Rome deep, I’ll take it 💀💀💀

[@robertprueter3292]

I do like me some divisional breakdowns, and yes, our Bears will be exposed as the season goes on. If the ship holds steady however and we walk away with seven-ish wins and Caleb's still improving. Some o-line help and we'll be lookin good

[@timrobinson6893]

I think Chicago can make 8 - 9 if they take 2 or 3 from division rivals. Lions at 12 - 5 if they win 4 of 6 within the division.

[@skwerl224]

I'm way less sold on the bears. Looking at the remaining schedule, i see one game im confident in a win from. If we say they bag the patriots and cardinals (the wild card in terms of difficulty) matchups, they still need at least one win from the commanders (oof but maybe if daniels is out or weakened), niners (oof but maybe injuries make it possible), and seahawks (who look humbled at the moment, but history says those recently humbled teams bounce back against bears teams... we'll see when the matchup comes in late December). This lions team is easily good enough to take two of two, the packers remain the unsolvable rivalry puzzle, likely going to take two of two, and the vikings look HOT. bears could easily go 0-6 in division. They have the hard part of the nfc west, and if (strong "if", mind you) they sneak 2 wins out of those remaining 3, they sit at 7, MAYBE 8 wins, and likely need to catch up to ten from division play alone. Realize that this bears team is still in improvement mode, and nowhere near their prove-it arc. I predicted at the draft they'd regress in wins, and then the schedule came out. I truly see no reason to backtrack right now. The way things look, they have to get 3+ wins in the division to make the dance, and it looks like, right now, they are not capable of that.

[@kaischou2649]

Jordan love has that Bret farve mentality

[@theimperiallaw4026]

How are you going to bring up Goffs weakness to pressure and the advantage of rushing with 4, without even mentioning the Lions run game or #1 OLine in the League? Sounds like yet another bias take; shouldn’t expect much from Bears fans… by the way, Lions don’t have Hutch; but the Vikings never had a Hutch to begin with, looks like we are even, minus the fact that Vikings front 4 have to penetrate the Lions All Pro Tackles and Center, yeah I’d say we still have the advantage. Good luck stopping the run without a blitz 😏😈

[@StreebloMynob]

Should have said this after the game between Detroit vs Minnesota.

[@hoss2060]

Lovws decision making "issues" are VASTLY overblown. Not to say he doesnt make poor decisions out of overconfidence at times, he certainly does and needs to reign that in, but its not nearly to the degree people seem to think.

[@eman22017]

I mean the numbers they brought up are alarming. When things go right, he’s the best in the business. When things go slightly wrong, he kills his own team.

[@hoss2060]

@@eman22017 they don't go wrong very often. Also last year he was one of the best against the blitz. I'm not worried about his numbers after four games one of which nobody on either team could stay on their feet for more than 30 seconds and the other he was playing on one leg. We've seen him be good in these situations before

[@DTOStudios]

​@@eman22017 yes but two of his games this year his leg was clearly bothering him a lot and restricting his movement. Last year he was best in the league against the blitz. With his leg healthy, and seeing how he handled Arizona's blitz last week, I think we'll see a lot more of that Love moving forward this year

[@t4d0W]

@@eman22017 What is helped is the crazy balance with the two. When things go right its LaFleur getting it right and putting up numbers with a receiver group that is slowly finding their role. As much as Love invites some bad results off structure, the fact he is still a threat to create a positive play out of it is growth on his own right. If there is one group with the Packers that is *actually* killing their own team, look no further than the defense and the DC. Joe Barry set a very low standard with a talented Packers squad. Hafley isn't doing any better and is pretty replaceable at this point.

[@hasamikun]

@@t4d0W Hafley is doing way better than Barry lmao. Watch some games.

[@fatchops5113]

Is Ryan Bates coming back?

[@Jeremy-cg9re]

Your " hidden door " is easy to see! 😆

[@MrFlo5787]

The north remembers 🐺

[@codythomssen9337]

Whether or Not sam turns into a pumpkin, im just happy the vikings are not in the cellar this season.

[@treyburn1194]

i think the best young head coach is KOC, i mean 5-0 right now and the way they have won. plus also last year w him winning w josh dobbs (man literally turned him into an "icon" for a few weeks)

[@eduardooneal]

No discussion of lions o line? Nice

[@BootlegFootball]

the Lions are 18th in the NFL in pressure percentage allowed against four man rushes. They've been an excellent run blocking unit this year, but average in pass pro. Goff has played very, very well and got them out of some jams.

[@DillonJayasuriya]

@@BootlegFootballalso penei Sewell has not allowed a sack in over 1100 snaps 🫰🏾

[@JeramieLyle]

They’re so wrong about Detroit. You must really not like them. Your takes are so off about them

[@hammahdolo7384]

As an AFC North steelers fan im really bummed the NFC North has taken over as the toughest division in the league

[@bennettwadekamper8238]

I am going to the Lions game today! Go Vikings!!

[@RyanT586-2]

weird edit at 18:47. Edit out some Lions secondary shit talking? lmao

[@stlegion-px1wo]

Lions vs Vikings could be summed up to Kirby Joesph and Brian Branch vs Sam Darnold.And Goff vs Brian Flores .

[@BM-si2ei]

I think the Lions will have to prove that they can get any amount of meaningful pressure w/o Hutch. If they can't, it will not matter how good Joseph and Branch are. No coverage unit can overcome a lack of pressure, especially against the Vikings' WR corps.

[@bobbykingcaffeine5010]

Lets go bear dahn

[@jimsnyder6310]

Williams has the highest ceiling by far. Bears are looking to be the talk of this division for years to come.

[@bobbydavis2335]

Definitely highest ceiling but JJ and Love seem to have the "sky" in sight as well and to be fair, Goff is already almost there it seems. This division will be a meat grinder for years, hopefully as with iron sharpens iron, it will only make us all better, good luck, I actually pull for lions on side, and kinda like the bears, love the players, but hate them damn Packers lol

[@t4d0W]

I'd argue Love is getting to his ceiling being pretty good out of structure *WHILE* he has one of the most creative play callers to help him in structure. Its a potent combination that will get better as the two continue their offensive mind-meld. Goff is nice but he helped with the most dynamic talents on offense in that NFC North. Best O-line, very dependable slot target and two absolute bruisers in the run game. If the deep passing gets more consistent then Ben Johnson has every tool in structure to generate scores. Vikings have KOC, arguably the best WR flanked by two very good receiver threats. Just depends if JJ is the long term QB solution. Bears still have more to prove even if their offense has woken up the past few weeks and Waldron's fraudulent has not been as apparent.

[@user-yq1hv2ce3b]

42:08 talking about Jordan love having a mini CLIFF?? He has 12 TDs in his first 4 games. Lowest passing yards is 224. Explosive offense especially on 1st down just how you mentioned for the Vikings. Too say he has a lot of dip on his chip is one thing but to say it’s a cliff is just hating. Your bias is showing and it’s hurting your credibility.

[@Recapdd]

KOC and Bflo becoming Andy Reid and spags

[@kneckenkanacken]

Why should Packers be below Bears in the divisonal standings after six games?

[@armandojtorres2129]

Cause Packers lost to vikkngs

[@kneckenkanacken]

@@armandojtorres2129 So both Packers and Bears got exaktly 0 % wins within the division? NFL itself seems to put Packers ahead both in the division and in the playoff hunt

[@sheaamichael9694]

@@kneckenkanacken packers are actually ahead of the Bears rn by technicality.

[@venod3134]

BK love you man. But do you really think the Vikings can rush 4 against the Lions Offense line and have success? Also this game will be on Monty and Gibbs, Goff just needs to manage this one.

[@BootlegFootball]

Personally yeah I think they can. Lions OL this year is 18th in pressure rate allowed against four man rushes.

[@venod3134]

@BootlegFootball interesting.. I will say the only game the Lions lost was one in which Goff had over 30 attempts. I just don't see the Lions allowing for pressure to effect the game, they will just run the ball. I just don't think this game is on Goff.

[@Lambseals]

I am pointing to a crucial point not being mentioned by all talking heads Lions had a cake walk schedule Only tough team was Tampa buccaneers

[@DaveThomson]

Vikings haven't play against the #1 offensive line this year or Top 5 yet. Top 6 (two teams - Jets/Packers) yes, but they're low 70s.

[@frandavis1990]

Looks like afc north from last season. Everyone had a winning record

[@nashjac12]

Loves been hurt so they been throwing the blitz knowing he ain’t as moble