The NFL Ends Another Thing We All Loved

[@archon9383]

I've been listening to these guys for a decade, and have been missing them for the last two months. Thank you for the sendoff Brandon, the way the NFL handled this is bonkers.

[@museli_addict]

The consensus seems to be that Dan was essentially fired for clashing with management, and Marc left with him.

[@dyseskytten1]

@@museli_addict If this is true, my comparison to Top Gear gets even better - except Gregg stayed.

[@JessLuBera]

@@museli_addict In a way I hope that is true. Dan going out in style would only make sense. And Gregg choosing the safe option makes sense as well. Interested to see whose new venture exists longer. How anyone could choose to stick with the snakes at NFL media after seeing everyone they've unceremoniously dumped is beyond me.

[@Cracktune]

i just thought they were on a break like Pat and the boys... This hurts fr

[@olddirtybasterd-ex2vb]

Never heard of them

[@alantully455]

As a British NFL fan, I can say that around the NFL was one of the reasons why my love for the game grew. The NFL say they are all about growing the game but by cancelling this show they are doing the opposite. The guys really helped UK fans understand and love the game. The day Wes died is still one of the saddest things I ever listened to. I am really going to miss the heroes.

[@lostalone9320]

UK fan here too. A big part of why ATL was so important was because I don't have friends who are into the NFL, and ATL felt like the bar chat that people have in the US.

[@museli_addict]

@@lostalone9320 Same here in UK. It was a great way to feel connected to the sport

[@SkunkApe407]

Well, as a Yank, I'm glad to see our sport cross the Pond and catch some attention. Basketball has proven that tapping into international talent pools is nothing but a boon to ratings and the game itself. I can't wait to see what kind of talent comes out of Europe, eventually. Giant Austrian O-Linemen. Savage Slavic and Serbian Linebackers. Italian refs, because well, nobody respects those guys!😂 The French can be our cheerleaders.

[@srfnsurfer]

I loved how when the big stars came on the show, they were more fun.

[@Cracktune]

respect from the US. Love to see British fans enjoying this sport. A straight tragedy; the AtNFL Pod.

[@DaveysWonderfulWorld]

I’m starting now to believe that the NFL is actually trying to piss us off 😩🤦‍♂️

[@codyhughes4472]

Litterally everything is gaslighting us. And it’s so brainwashed even most people are gaslighting themselves and everyone else even

[@codyhughes4472]

People are so gaslit… that most can’t even like these comments knowing it’s true in fear of saying anything bad about the establishment and somehow being punished. And also gaslight by their ego even to put up self defenses to block it out, cause then maybe am I one of those brainwashed washed gaslight lamp carriers…. Yes I have definitely been. I was gung ho about the status quo when I was a kid, I had to be, I’d be punished for not being the best. What a sickness, almost killed me

[@DaveysWonderfulWorld]

@@codyhughes4472 what are you on and what were your parents feeding you?

[@codyhughes4472]

@@DaveysWonderfulWorld lol. The sounds of silence brah. I don’t do drugs. I did have some caffeine today tho, that stuff messes me up… read it agin, maybe a little slower. I Im sorry to say, but it will probably make sense one day

[@codyhughes4472]

@@DaveysWonderfulWorld dude. I wasn’t drinking the tap water my whole life. How bout that? I was reading about sugar and fluoride trials buried from the 20-30’s or so. Going off decades old memory. And all the hormones being put in food when I was about 10… What have you been eating and drinking?

[@bnb6868]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Ever since I started actively following the NFL Around of the nfl was a weekly highlight that did so much about educating me about the league and increasing my love for it. Dan Hanzus, Sessler and Rosenthal truly were heroes and I will dearly miss it.

[@Nbaspam0000]

I use this channel, utree & pat mcafee show😳💀

[@Nbaspam0000]

@@bnb6868 something about meme style reporting soothes me

[@pigdroppings]

I never saw or even heard of this NFL show. i get all my NFL info from the severely mentally deficient Poop-n-da-Pants Perna show.

[@areallygoodshoe]

I’ll miss Dan, Gregg, and all the guys

[@MrShuggadaddy]

⁠@@Nbaspam0000 your knowledge of football is entirely memes and that is ok lol

[@DeepRest420]

NO pressure, Perna. You are now single handedly the person keeping me interested in the NFL.

[@brettrossi034]

Looks like the show has indirectly passed off the torch to Brandon. Hes got big shoes to fill! He can do it

[@thatsgoodsports]

Oh god nooooooooo I can't handle the pressure

[@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON]

@@thatsgoodsportsjust drink a little more.

[@DeepRest420]

@@thatsgoodsports No worries. We know. Be honest with yourself. Somehow, you are at your best when having a nervous breakdown. 😃

[@GratefulTodd]

And caffeine headache free with F*ck the Refs Blend.

[@motelghost477]

This disgusting cancellation does at least show the strength of truly independent creators like Perna, Tom Grossi and The Sports Fury.

[@jironthunder7519]

Don't forget about Urinating Tree

[@EightCrosstown]

Scooter as well. 🤔

[@warlordofbritannia]

It used to be that network media meant security at the cost of individualism in approach. Nowadays it seems safer to remain independent.

[@frederickshaibani5655]

Don’t forget about my guy Adam @ FivePointsVids

[@Cam-mo7gq]

Benchwarmerbran can be added to that list, as well of course as the Heed the Call podcast. Dan and Mark back with vengeance.

[@DarrrB]

Thanks for higlighting this Perna. I've been a loyal ATN listener since 2014 from Australia and it got me into the NFL. They are what lead me to finding you're channel when I tried to seek out similar NFL media that doesnt take itself too serious but still informs. TGS and ATN are the only NFL media I obsorb religiously so its been a sad time since their sudden disappearance and leaves you to carry a lot of weight. Bronco's Country, lets ride. 😞

[@hmb2201]

As a “dumb Brit” who decided to stay up one night to watch the Super Bowl 7 years ago for the first time and got hooked, these guys talked me through the players, the teams, and everything else. No exaggeration, these guys are a massive reason to why I am hooked on this sport. I cannot believe the decision by the NFL, but equally know these guys will land on their feet. I’m sure whenever Dan/Marc release a new show it will catapult up in the International sports category over here in the UK.

[@thekyletk]

I'll never forget the show after Wes died... It was like hearing your good friend from school died, was absolutely devastating. I hope Marc and Dan all the success with a new show

[@lostalone9320]

I remember really clearly being impatient for the show to drop and hitting refresh because I wanted me some super bowl stuff. And one time I hit refresh and there was a new ep called "Wes" and my heart just dropped out my feet because I knew what had happened and I couldn't even listen to the show, and suddenly I didn't even care about the super bowl.

[@Cracktune]

legendary show that was.

[@ashleyjade5607]

Finding out this podcast is getting shut down from this notification sucks. I found it in 2022 when I got a job installing windows, and I would listen to it at work a lot that season and became a semi regular veiwer since then. It was a great show and I hate to see it go.

[@cullenanderson173]

Sincere thank you for making this video. Dan, Gregg, all the guys have been so important and present for my growth as a football fan, I really don’t have the words for it. And I especially can’t find the words to describe how such an unceremonious and disrespectful end to something truly cornerstone to me and many others makes me feel. Heed the call!

[@motelghost477]

I really hope Dan and Marc keep working together and create a great independent NFL show on KZbin, I'll be a DAY ONE subscriber. Stay strong, Heroes.

[@PapaSquattt]

See, this is why we love you, Perna! 🙏🏼 Nobody else with your level of following had the balls to make a video about this DEBACLE the NFL just pulled. You’re speaking up for us, the fans, and I truly appreciate it ❤

[@motelghost477]

Around the NFL is gone? What the fuck? I've been watching ATN for over six years, I'm fucking furious about this.

[@neebnoob18]

Same. I really hope Gregg is just waiting out his contract, and we end up with an independent version of the show

[@Cracktune]

youre not alone

[@MFBloosh]

"We need to pay a lot of money out for this NFL Network bs... Let's just start taking away things that the fans love to save some money, even though we have enough money to pay that NFL Network fine 10x over if we wanted to." - The NFL, probably.

[@peelslowly28]

Greed is greed

[@legitdragon6202]

NFL is reaching the point they think they're untouchable and will do anything for a buck.

[@tharrigan5661]

Stunned this happened. NFL Media should be doing better than this. This was a great podcast. I really missed the great Chris Wessling. Thank you for talking about this great show.

[@plurplis9599]

Listened to every ep, really felt like they had the perfect balance of comedy and knowledge that you and grossi also bring. Sad times

[@elcambiollego]

Just another chapter in corporate incompetence.

[@fian9]

ending the show is stupid, the way it was ended is gross.

[@Drxxyt]

I've listened to this podcast for years and was so confused as to why they haven't posted since May....this news is heartbreaking. It was the only podcast I listened to consistently and never thought this day would come 😥

[@JonRakos]

The worst part is they just renamed the feed from Around the NFL to NFL Daily. I'm going to have to unsubscribe to my favorite podcast or get daily reminders of what they took from us. Frick.

[@thepremisevideoessays]

I hate this news so much. ATN was far and away my favorite sports podcast and it's devastating to hear they've been kicked out so abruptly. Whatever these guys want to put out next, and wherever they choose to do it, I'm tapping in Day 1.

[@CrocBankRbbr]

Consumers: we like this a lot Modern Corporate America: oh we can’t have that

[@903lew]

Man, that sucks. ATN really helped me pull the weeks together when I couldn’t watch all the games or even the summary. And yes, I’m overseas.

[@androkles04]

European fan here: this podcast singlehandedly kept me invested in the NFL for the last five seasons. It is absolutely wild that they would kill it, and in such an unceremonious way. We the fans, and more so the Heroes, deserve better.

[@MichaelSmith-rr7mo]

Thanks for making a video about this topic. I've been listening to this podcast for longer than I've been with my partner (8 years). I was gutted when Wes died. I'm shocked that three hosts, the heros, separated as the end result of this drama. I thought surely anything that happened, they'd still be together. RIP to ATL (it used to be called Around the League).

[@ladyserenitea]

Omg I was wondering why there weren't any updates! I am heartbroken, this podcast was such a mainstay for me during the season. GL to all of them but damn, the NFL did them DIRTY 😡

[@Euphoniumstar]

Well, I'm heartbroken...this podcast is/was literally my main NFL news source, and set the standard for sports podcasts for me. I don't know what I would have done without these guys during the pandemic lockdowns, keeping me up to date and laughing that whole time. NFL is making a big mistake here IMO

[@unillustrious3154]

That sucks , it was between perna and ATN that got me into the nfl as a uk fan

[@piquabear5702]

I have literally never heard of this show before yesterday, and I have been watching football since the 90s. Bummer that it's gone, that really sucks for fans.

[@kentstadulis4350]

I’ve been listening to Around the NFL since 2015. Most of my knowledge of the league has come from the guys and either disagreeing with their opinions or agreeing with them, but no matter what they were always entertaining. Just an insane decision.

[@FHL-Devils]

What's stopping them from going private and using KZbin and/or a Patreon system? Ok, so they won't get to use NFL footage, but it's certainly an option over getting shut down completely.

[@Nick_J_]

Dan and Marc probably will start a new show

[@J_Aaron_L]

Ya know.... you might be on to something. All the networks attitude towards YT has been negative but being late to the party never mattered to the powerful. They'll pull strings and once they have us all de-platformed or demonetized here they'll chase and do the same on the next platform.

[@mikedrynan4937]

Non compete clause or somefin maybe

[@lostalone9320]

They probably will. But it's so classless that the NFL canned them out of nowhere. These guys aren't celebrities with millions, you know? They're normal guys with kids and mortgages. So not even giving them a headsup so they could move forward quickly is gross.

[@Angry-est]

Because one of the hosts is still employed and they all were getting paid good money before the cancellation. No shot Gregg will be allowed to continue the podcast without his employers consent (and that’s not happening), unless he also wants to get fired. He’s got a family to feed and is being compensated, so I don’t blame him, but it’s why the band won’t be together under any circumstances until he is no longer under the nfl’s employ.

[@BloodyLunacy]

I've been listening/watching ATN since the debate club days at the end of the Dave Dameshek football program. I grew to love this show so much and it became my favorite football show for the last decade plus. The announcement of it's cancellation ruined my day and left me bummed out. I can't wait to follow Dan and Marc to what they do next.

[@rempleforskin]

thanks for making this video perna, ATN was by far my favorite sports podcast. So many memories and emotions, RIP Chris

[@jordanfst21]

I think the biggest thing was just the fact that they didn’t even let them have a final show to sign off and say goodbye like after all that time it just feels like such a slap in the face and a middle finger to all of us that listened for the last 10+ years

[@joshh.2159]

I've never been more devastated this show has been with me for the last 10 years and it's got me through the hardest of times

[@andrewjazdzyk1215]

I've been listening to them since 2013. I honestly think they're a huge part of their growth overseas and will regret this.

[@Will-fk2dk]

This seems like the NFL, again, telling us that they can do whatever they want and we will still watch. They are actively trying to aggravate us, the fans.

[@pbumpdebump]

ATN was one of the best products they had and they threw it away. Love the heros, their energy will be missed

[@KrimitWARFRAME]

what a bummer ive been listening to around the nfl since 2013 during the seahawks epic run. it was devastating to hear of wessling passing during the superbowl and the group i felt needed a 4th voice ever since. i think the torch is being passed to younger people like you perna and your buddy tom grossi! i would love to see you guys have a collab one day with dan hanzus and mark sessler who knows they might be gracious enough to talk with you guys! keep pressing on man we need your content now more than ever!

[@Clewsy10]

What it means is more people will now find the truly innovative and interesting channels that talk about the NFL, as they can those that were watched. Great news for you, Brandon, and Tom amongst others.

[@DatDudeVince]

Let's be honest, even the NFL knows it can't compete with these type of channels when it comes to podcasts, which is an oversaturated market. This channel has about 15x more subs than that podcasts channel did on YT.

[@fcnl]

There are SOOOO many of us, myself included who were fringe football fans, who because of this podcast, ended up wanting to watch EVERY single football game every team plays... I have been a subscriber of nfl+ for the last 4 years because I want to watch ALL of the games because of this podcast.

[@thisguyorthatguywhoknows960]

Thank you so much for covering this the around the nfl podcast is what me love foot ball and find your show!

[@thatsgoodsports]

Thank you for the super and for the support!!!

[@-ConnerS]

The nfl keeps doing things like this and it’s gross!

[@ahereticanthem]

And just like that my beautiful football era is gone. Can’t believe it. And not even a goodbye show which you know would have been great.

[@aaronkemp7789]

I remain stunned that the NFL was going to axe Hanzus while keeping Rosenthal and Sessler. Good on Marc for sticking with his boy.

[@itsmebatman]

The ATL podcast was great, because we got to listen to the human side of sports journalists. They knew everything that was going on because of their job. But it was interesting to listen to their opinions and what they thought about each other's opinions.

[@lostalone9320]

I really liked that they weren't the stupid over the top yelling hot takes kind of podcast. They deliberately pushed to not do that, to be fun and friendly, to do silly but memorable things. Their go get my lunch thing, what's more likely, the hot butt meter, around the AFC in 48 minutes (with tranquilizer darts). But most of all, I remember 50 phrases to describe the cowboys defense (including "child like, but not to imply innocence or purity") and the other genuinely surreal but completely unique things that couldn't have been done anywhere else. I will also remember Dan misspeaking and breaking himself on air - "In the second half, the Jet's defense copulated... No, wait... Capitulated... Copulating would be a weird choice." which was so real and so relatable.

[@GrimRaider-uy3ct]

Wow this sucks, got me through a lot of shifts at work and when Wes died from cancer I was truly sad. This some bull shit. At least we still got Perna, even if he is a Broncos fan.

[@MrJujuflaker]

I was a devoted listener for the last decade. This is the first offseason I fell off listening and now coming back to see everything that happened is heart breaking. End of an era! So glad we have Heed the Call now

[@JessLuBera]

Thanks, Perna, for covering this. I'm devastated. What a low-blow move by NFL media. I do not and have never cared about their other forced feeling content, but I was all in on ATN. If their goal was to push me and many others away from their brand and toward more private content, success.

[@droppedyogurt]

Im heartbroken over this. These guys have been a part of my life for over a decade. This is a travesty

[@IHJello]

With how much glazing networks give the Pat Mac Show you'd think they'd keep something similar.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

I loved around the NFL and I hate the Pat McAfee show. These guys don't talk over each other and they're relatively well-spoken whereas Pat is just kind of meandering and surface level

[@Marquesjones5]

Thank you for making this video and shining some light on how amazing this podcast and these 4 men were/are. As a side night, I consume a ton of nfl related media and these 4 men were by far the most accurate analysts of the game and between the four of them they seldomly got things wrong.

[@luciddre4m]

I'm devastated by this. Been listening multiple times a week for years. I hope the guys maybe find their way to KZbin/Patreon. Kind of annoyed with Gregg for staying on with the league though.

[@NinjaJean23]

I'm like 90% sure it was a health insurance thing

[@oopsydo]

*NFL exec snorts a line* "You know what would be funny?..."

[@s7umpf]

I'm one of the "european fans" of the Podcast (Germany) and have been a listener since year 1. The ATN podcast + youtube game-summaries was a good way to keep track of the season, while most of the original content airs while I'm busy or asleep.

[@Callum840]

The toighest thing about this for me is Wess, a goodbye episode would no doubt have had a section on the impact he had and we've been denied that

[@dougadamsau]

Australian here. I got into the NFL in 2012 when a work colleague suggested I choose a team and watch it for a season. I chose the Ravens and started listening to the Dave Dameshek podcast. Mark and Dan had a 10 minute Debate Club bit at the end. That morphed into ATN and Chris and Gregg coming on board. So 12 year listener and it’s over. Will miss it terribly. Thanks to all involved. Feels like I’ve lost a comfortable safe place and some friends.

[@NinjaJean23]

This stings so much, when i started listening to ATN in 2015 i was in high school, i got through college and had two kids while listening 2-3 times a week. Crazy week

[@sergestorms8044]

dammit perna, you did it again...all this making sense..."experts" everywhere need to see this, but that would blow their minds...THAT makes sense.. kudos my good man, carry on

[@EverlastingAura1]

Been listening to ATN for 9+ years. I am crushed

[@evanstanek5838]

For anyone watching this and forlorn...Dan & Marc fired up a new pod on Underdog called "heed the call". It's in the vein of the original minus Gregg...and the gloves do come off for some candid takes since they are now operating outside of the shadow of the league overlords

[@ashleyjade5607]

Ik the show feels even better than ever now

[@elliottpatton1842]

I freakin loved this show! Been watching for 7 years and when one of their members passed away just after having his first son destroyed me. These guys will bounce back and I can’t wait to see these guys back on their feet.

[@Dowgle]

I started listening to the ATN podcast in 2014. As a British sports fanatic who knew nothing about the NFL but was interested in learning, the podcast was a godsend. It has taught me so much in the last 10+ years and entertained me throughout. It's made me laugh, cry and everything in between. The charisma and enthusiasm the guys have is infectious and I hope whatever Dan and Marc do next they have all the success in the world.

[@PharaohMan007]

That was like the only football podcast I listened to. Noooooooo

[@trimalo3762]

The NFL should hire you. You have a funny way of telling your content while giving us the facts we need. You do good job. Keep up the good work 👍💪

[@michaelince3581]

Such a sad day for all nfl fans. Such genuine guys, ill always remember flying from Australia for the Live show and having Chris help us get tickets since you couldn't buy them without an American address.💔

[@zeebaa6]

This is very upsetting. I hope they bounce back. Loved the show

[@greenmanalishi6963]

They’ll bounce back with a more diverse cast;)

[@watchmaker17]

This podcast was literally the only non-game NFL product that I have consumed in the last decade. It was light, easy to listen to, the love for the game was evident, and the chemistry was undeniable. To unceremoniously not even air a goodbye episode? What in the world is the NFL thinking?

[@Cool_Hand_Luke]

Your point about intimacy is on the money. Never have I grieved for anyone I didn't personally know the way I did when the episode about Wess's passing dropped.

[@geraldtn3175]

It's infuriating that they act like they can do whatever they want and we'll still be there. They are right, but you can only give people the middle finger over and over until it begins to hurt the product

[@brennanbeyer5645]

RIP Wess. RIP ATN. Heed the Call!

[@ardnore2535]

So glad you posted this, learned so much from listening to them, not to mention how entertaining they were, this is just really disappointing...

[@TurtleFPL]

This podcast did so much to grow the NFL outside the USA. Genuinely it's absolutely huge here in Ireland and over in the UK. Such a terrible decision by the NFL

[@ethanjt4094]

I’m from the UK and this podcast is what got me into the NFL before I even watched a game, it was a fantastic podcast and I’m gutted it’s gone

[@kiphendry841]

It is a bit embarrassing to admit how essential a podcast was to my life, but I loved it and it’s nuts that’s gone.

[@carlosjones8712]

Around the nfl is massive in the U.K. crazy decision, should start their own podcast

[@dielewisformel]

The rumors regarding higher ups in the NFL shutting it down, due to leaked information and certain things they talked about, seems relaistic regarding Florio mentioning it as well.

[@MrRictusgrin]

I am now going to not watch games or pay attention to the NFL anymore for the first time in my life. Not kidding. FUCK THE NFL!

[@albertgodlesky1665]

Found this vid on the ATN subreddit. Thanks for giving voicr to so many fans of the pod.

[@ambassador_domo]

The Pine Barrens is 84 miles from NYC. That's a bit of a drive!

[@michaelhull8813]

This news broke me! - im completely bummed - honestly, though, watching this made me think about how exciting that ill have this show each week!!! -- thank you

[@dielewisformel]

The Subreddit of "ATN" has been a great place of shared pain and outpouring of love about the pod over these last few weeks.

[@darrenpoppleton6661]

I’m so sad to have lost the heroes. They were a stable thing for me through a decade of change and upheaval.

[@samrogers5737]

So happy this video exists. Always loved ATN, didn't realize it was sooo beloved. It got me into football and eventually to Perna and Grossi

[@careygiboyd]

To scrub the show from the iTunes library is crazy……

[@EloSanchez-hs9nr]

Damn i have so much to catch up on, i cant believe you barely popped up in my feed in like over 2 months

[@johnchedsey1306]

You're absolutely right about what makes a podcast great. I mostly just listen to one that's about music and the guys who host it are liking have two music nerd best friends riding in the car with me. It's really hard to capture that sort of chemistry and for the NFL to break up something successful kinda makes me wonder if/when the league is jumping the proverbial shark.

[@Kubal-cain]

Dameshek was gold.

[@Steve-g3j]

This is literally the saddest news I have heard this year. Hi, loved be around the NFL podcast. It's the only sports podcast I have ever listened to with consistency. Over a decade. I can't believe it's canceled. I'm heartbroken. 😢😢😢

[@michaelsummerfield1426]

This was the send off the Around The NFL deserved. Thank you for articulating my disappointment and disbelief at its cancellation and for giving them the love they richly deserve.

[@Phillip-kz7ng]

LOL your intro is always like more than enough info on the topic and then I'm like oh wait there's a whole episode😂

[@ILoveJamesFelt]

Im just about 38. Ive been listening to this pod since i was 27. In that time i met my wife, had a kid, started my career, and bought a house (albeit almost all of that happened between 27 and 28). The sheer amount of knowledge i have about the sound drops from around the NFL is almost embarrassing. There was/is no other pod like it. I'm still coming to terms with it. That said, 60%G (Gregg) talked somewhat openly about how his own family issues are/were the driving force for him to stick with the company. Im stilll waiting for the tell all. I don't know why "the ol' Zeuser" (Dan) or "The Quiet Storm" (Marc) jave been quiet on this, but I'm hoping myself and fans get to learn why it was so unceremoniously cut from our lives.

[@JoelElRican]

I was listening to these guy since before they changed the name to Around The NFL. Its really disappointing to hear this news. We don't even get a farewell episode 😢

[@DC-eq4yh]

I barely watch any nfl shows on espn or nfl network anymore. I get most of my news from this guy and some others on KZbin. I don't trust regular media anymore

[@stemi660]

Shadowy League F***'s I'm cancelling Game Pass in protest, I'll still watch some games, but I'm not paying for the full package anymore.

[@jwb143]

The only nfl podcast i really like listening to

[@atlascormac6273]

I have been watching on KZbin for 10 years. I loved to rake the yard in the fall while listening.

[@ryanjuanico4498]

Papa Perna, we love you

[@prestonlittle2658]

Such bs! The heroes deserved better. The fans deserved better. The nfl media team is rotten to the core for this.