The NFL Overvalues Quarterbacks

[@theelike4302]

Quarterbacks are like engines. They can power incredible things but only if the right tools are involved.

[@thunderpantz]

Or graphics cards in computers. Can't play the biggest games in 4k with a antiquated CPU and motherboard.

[@michalmichalski4152]

great analogy.... if you put the best, highest performing, most horsepower engine into a car w/ no tires and no steering wheel.... doesn't really matter.

[@alanreeves9872]

I think one reason why teams overpay their quarterbacks is because if they don't, some other team will. If the 49ers don't pay up for Brock Purdy for example, he'll just go somewhere else where they'll pay him the whole GDP of France. Then the 49ers have to hope they can find someone decent again, which is never guaranteed.

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Why would he get paid that much money what has he won exactly?

[@antoniotrivelloni8191]

@@JohnOMalley-c6sWhen Justin Herbert is getting a megacontract to stay on the Chargers, if Purdy doesn’t get paid by the Niners, some shitty team will to get a competent QB

[@CiabanItReal]

IDK I think this is why Baltimore considered trading Lamar as good as he is, because the thought was get extra picks and draft someone else to be on this really good team, use those picks and the cash savings elsewhere.

[@TheTeremaster]

@@JohnOMalley-c6s What has Lawrence won? What has Lamar Jackson won?

[@King_kami36]

@@alanreeves9872 49ers have been to the Super Bowl with 3 different QBs in 15yrs. If there’s any team that can rebound from losing their guy it’s them.

[@JamCooper]

The Twitter GM's absolutely killed the Lions for drafting Penei Sewell over Justin Fields. Partly because doing so was an endorsement of Jared goff, partly because it's an OL over a QB, but mostly because the Lions were just really easy to make fun of back then. But 4 years later, what's happened, Sewell might be the best OL in football, and Fields just got traded for a 6-round pick.

[@iamnotjcook]

Really? Most people I saw were very cold on Fields

[@ThatCrendorGuy]

I was on twitter for that draft and most people loved the Sewell pick from what I saw. People got more upset at the broncos for passing on Justin fields

[@nathanhosea489]

I got more upset at the Bengals for passing over Sewell in favor of Chase

[@brandondanforth8342]

I mean, twitter is probably the *worst* place to get any actual information or takes from...

[@carlajenkins1990]

The draft is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are gonna get. My team is the Raiders. In 2007, we got the first pick in the whole draft. A monster of a good qb--on paper. Jamarcus Russell was one of the Top 3 Busts of All Time. I went into Raider Image and I had my favorite Raider's jersey made for me. #2. Daniel Carlson, the Raiders leading scorer. He made 30 straight field goals and fans COMPLAINED! Loudly.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

I've said it before, If Tom Brady goes to the Browns instead of the Patriots, there is no such thing as Tom Brady. Where you go matters. Stafford is a great example of a guy who was nearly burned up in the fire of Detroit's ineptitude. I've watched the NFL since the 70's and I've watched good QB's get blasted on garbage teams, some of them getting injured before their careers could even start.

[@Therealtre]

You’re just a hater and mahomes fan 😂 I’m an eagles fan but you could say the same about mahomes. Keep hating tho 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@TheCountofToulouse]

@@Therealtre What the hell are you talking about? Mahomes fan? Grow up man child.

[@dewanewelch1744]

​@@Therealtre you coukd say the same about Mahomes.

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

​@@TherealtreThe point is you can say it about all quarterbacks.

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Stfu you make us Eagles fans look bad

[@reedhaas6316]

I totally agree with this. The Panthers were NOT in a position to draft a franchise quarterback. I believe Bryce Young has the tools to become a good quarterback, but it was insane thinking to believe he would carry any of his college proficiency into a garbage team like this. Receivers that can't separate, an O-Line that can't block correctly. I really hope Xavier Legette and Diontae Johnson can give Bryce some sort of comfort in the pocket

[@brutalasbucs9719]

No one is saying a trash team can win a SB with an Elite QB. You need an elite QB and a solid roster. Last 10 SBs prove this, only 2 non elite QBs

[@acidwizard6528]

@@brutalasbucs9719 Well.... It's possible for a really good team with an average QB to win a Super Bowl. The 2017 Eagles, 2012 Ravens, and 2000 Ravens are recent examples where the team was so good that they were able to win with a game manager QB.

[@blue-pi2kt]

​@@acidwizard6528Only one of those teams had a game manager. Flacco threw 11 TDs in 4 games that post-season. Foles was a back-up but balled out with 300 yards and 2 TDs a game. He was also good at one point. Trent Dilfer was definitely a game manager. The only other I can really think of is Rex Grossman.

[@LacSlyer]

@@blue-pi2kt Flacco was historically a game manager. Him and Foles going off in the playoffs is why they won, but no one was knocking on their doors when they were free agents for a reason. That should tell you everything.

[@DoubleA88mph]

This didn’t age well

[@nsanebaileycr2580]

This is a phenomenal video, I've always thought some of these past QBs were set up to fail but the way you broke it down made a lot of sense. I like how you mentioned that Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy have been set up pretty well too, gives us a little more insight to who might be good this year

[@josiah3236]

been saying this for the longest. There’s always like 4-7 truly elite guys that can expand the playbook/run your offense smoothly, then everyone else is just overhyped and can be interchanged (Kirk/Dak/etc)

[@Auxzifyed]

Trevor Lawerence

[@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt]

Well said brother

[@brutalasbucs9719]

Kirk/Dak don't have Superbowls

[@ckq]

Brother Dak is the 3rd best QB in the NFL right now (behind the obvious top 2 1. Mahomes 2. Allen). He deserved MVP over Lamar last year (check the stats). Only the reason Lamar won was the media narrative and the Ravens record/seed (because of their #1 defense) and recency bias from the Dolphins / Niners games. And Lamar is worse in the playoffs than Dak. Also regarding Kirk, he played like a top 5 QB in the 8 games last year before the Achilles injury, so you might be referring to 2017 to 2022 Kirk.

[@LacSlyer]

@@ckq No, he's not. Stats suggest he is, but I wouldn't take him over Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, Stroud, and probably Love and Herbert. If you're content with making the playoffs yearly and getting nowhere in them that's fine and Dak is your guy for that. But to suggest he's the third best QB in the league when he'd be lucky to be considered the third best QB in the NFC... Jackson is worse than Dak? Wait, which one made their Conf Champ game last year and which one hasn't gotten past the divisional round ever?

[@maxwellscott-bz8bf]

While point is important: note that Goff and Purdy are good QBs. This is also a note about it the extreme over valuation of athleticism/oh that looks cool, vs what works.

[@Dryltd]

Yeah. Like people still love the run dominant QB despite none of them succeeding at winning a super bowl.

[@shitposter2790]

​@@Dryltd Russell Wilson is a good counter example here, and guys like lamar jackson and kaepernick were pretty damn close as well. Wouldn't rule them out as viable tbh.

[@Dryltd]

@@shitposter2790 Russell Wilson was considered a run dominant QB when? This is news to me.

[@dark8prince201]

​@@Dryltd Seattle earlier days

[@Dryltd]

@@dark8prince201 We might have different definitions of run dominant. I'm talk Vick, Lamar, RG3, those types of guys. You are saying I may need to wa5ch some old Seahawks games to refresh my memory.

[@TekMex666]

The truth is that you just need a good Qb surrounded by an all around great team to win a Superbowl. You need multiple pieces, and a QB just happens to be the most important part of it. A great QB can only do so much though. Aaron Rodgers is proof of this.

[@studipity]

A lot if good arguments in here but I think the strongest one you made is that a franchise QB is almost never the solution to a team's problems. If your team finished low enough to pick a franchise QB in the draft, you have many more problems. A good team with a below average QB is still a good team.

[@Dryltd]

People due worry when a team with a terrible O-line draft a QB before a lineman. They pray for that young man.

[@DS-ux9ld]

Stroud and Burrow would disagree with you

[@danielpatterson1576]

@@DS-ux9ldthe Texans had an unusually spicy draft alongside Stroud while also having some second years step up, and the Bengals suffered for Burrow’s rookie year because he immediately got injured due to shit OL play. So the point still stands, a franchise QB alone does not instantly fix an entire team.

[@terranceramirez4816]

@@danielpatterson1576and then promptly went to the Super Bowl after being a moribund franchise for the majority of my lifetime

[@brutalasbucs9719]

NO ONE expects a rookie QB to win a Superbowl year one, But you get a 5 year contract window to build around them. You need an Elite QB to build around if you want a SB

[@oanjohnson6235]

This video has aged fascinatingly in the first few weeks of the season

[@jplace524]

Yeah, it doesn't look like the Commanders are going to regret drafting Daniels any time soon.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I suppose that all I know is that I’ve been a Chiefs fan for 40 odd years & they essentially couldn’t even win a playoff game until they got a great QB. Trent Green, Matt Cassel & Alex Smith couldn’t do shit for them, but Joe Montana got em to a AFC Championship Game & Patrick got em even further. And when they went to their first two Super Bowls, it was with Hall of Fame QB, Lenny Dawson. Edit: I will say, after watching the video, that I agree with your points. A franchise QB will not lift up a shit organization. They can help, but if yo don’t have a team built around him, you’re most likely going to fail.

[@RealCGH]

I agree, besides the Eagles over the past 15 years that you need a QB that either proven elite or was elite that season.

[@JohnClarkW]

I wouldn't put Smith in the same group, since he has a playoff win as a Chief, plus one as a 9er. Otherwise I am mostly with you. Dawson(5), DeBerg, Montana(2), and Smith combined for 9 playoff wins for the Chiefs. Mahomes at 15 and counting is absurd. He is averaging 2.5 per year, and 20 behind Brady. Meaning he is on pace to tie that in 8 years, or the last year of his current contract, which is also mind-blowing.

[@Mptappin12]

Smith was ight

[@drewpocernich2540]

​@@JohnClarkWit should also be noted that Andy Reid is widely considered a top 5 coach that primarily works with the offense. It's not a magical phenomenon that lead the Chiefs to where they are today.

[@randombiasedrevert]

Idk I still disagree we have seen QBs lift up shit teams. Mahomes is a great example. He has a good oline and his defense is decent but he goes out there and wins those games for them. Constantly adjusting

[@bofi1280]

Excellent video bro! Football normies don't seem to understand that QBs alone aren't going to turn a franchise around. The entire *team* needs to be complete!

[@alexnunez6660]

Fully agree with you despite the unfortunateness that Jayden Daniels does indeed appear to be almost fully pushing the Commanders into respectability because your broader point stands

[@Ginamy72]

They had a great defense for years. Remember when the bucs won the Super Bowl? They had to go through the commanders in the playoffs. Although I don’t remember their record, it wasn’t good, but they still made the playoffs is my point. And they got there because of their defense.

[@averagetacoenthusiast2218]

I feel like andrew luck is the perfect example of someone who did carry their team

[@badsportstakes644]

And he burnt tf out 7 seasons in 🫠😔

[@youngf.l.y.1467]

Early Elway as well

[@YouJustAmazeMe]

​@@badsportstakes644saying he "burnt out" is such a gross misrepresentation of what happened to him smh

[@stephenshaw3565]

​@badsportstakes644 More like he put up amazing numbers with one of the worst OL in the league, with a middle of the road recieving core, and next to no running game, all while HAVING A TORN LABRAL TENDON on his throwing shoulder (for a few years). I tore mine on my throwing shoulder and went from being a great outfielder in baseball, to never playing competitively again because of how messed up my shoulder is. If you put Luck on almost any other team, he would still be in the league with a few super bowls under his belt

[@badsportstakes644]

@@YouJustAmazeMe no its not. Like an amazing employee getting overused at his job instead of being properly treated and appreciated... its a perfect description of what happened.

[@PassivesAbseits]

My favorite examples of overrating QBs come from the Vikings: Remember when Kirk Cousins took over for Case Keenum? The Vikings went to the NFC Championship Game the year before. Then they upgraded their "most important position" by giving Cousins a lot of money. That should lead them to the Superbowl, right? Well... Keenum won as many Play Off Games as Cousins for the Vikings. The 2nd example is the 2016. Where they had to replace Teddy Bridgewater on short term notice with Sam Bradford. They started the season 5-0, while Bradford was learning the play book. Bradford did not even start in week one... But after the bye week, they lost 4 straight. Even though Bradford got more comfortable with the offense, they finished the season 8-8 and missed the play-offs. What happened? Well, their Offensive Line fell apart due to injury. They could replace their QB, but they could not replace their Oliner... That should tell you, how important those often forgotten players are for the passing game.

[@bridger1172]

At 20:00 I just wanna say that yes good receivers are part of the reason the yac yards are so high qb accuracy and timing is just as important when it comes to yac yards.

[@dr.pigskin]

Oh absolutely, it’s a 2 way street. If you hit them in stride it’s a lot easier for them to get 7 yards after the catch. Purdy’s pretty good at that! And the 49ers also have the best YAC group in the league, they can squeeze out as many yards as possible after the catch too

[@ChewsCarefully]

@@dr.pigskin This is a great idea for a future video. The one year Brady had Randy Moss he threw 50 TDs, his previous high being 28 & 23 of the 50 were to Moss. So yeah, he added 23 without subtracting more than 1 from other players. Jerry Rice caught for 3 QBs none of who were anywhere _NEAR_ the MVP discussion without him. Gannon might be the best example. Has any QB ever elevated any WR the way Moss elevated Brady? Is the differential between WRs larger than that between QBs? D.J. Moore has succeeded no matter his QB. So in case like that, not only is he good but were his QBs bad with everyone else or was everyone else bad? (I linked a video featuring INTs Fields was credited with showing his receivers falling down, running the wrong routes, swatting his passes away etc. Can we calculate for that)? If I weren't severely dyslexic I'd have done this myself before now. I'm really tired of undue credit being given to QBs. Andy Reid schemed 3 TD, 2 of 'em game-winners in the last 2 S-Bs. Without that, Mahomes loses both. Meanwhile Lamar's coaches just called RPOs all game putting all decision-making in his hands removing all helpful guidance *in a playoff game against Reid, Spagnuolo, Mahomes & the Chiefs* yet somehow this is _his_ loss? A great idea for a future video. I like this one. & I e-mailed myself the link to your one about Bowles changing defenses just so I always have it 'on speed dial' so to speak.

[@just2lazy2name]

QBs sell tickets. Owners love sales, and will sacrifice team succsess to drive sales. Only 3 QBs in the last 15 years have made a superbowl while accounting for 15% or more of their teams total cap. (Brady, Ryan, and Mahomes) In reality, QB does matter more than any other position, but not every other position. Maximizing Talent within the cap is key, then it just takes a little luck.

[@just2lazy2name]

If you look at the top 5 cap hits among QBs this year less than half are going to make the playoffs.

[@Th3Real_Spray]

Just found your channel this morning talking about the 1 quarter that changed everything. Great work on your videos! Please keep the content coming Doc!

[@kmhill9959]

Good vid... I wish more of the talking heads would realize that football is a TEAM sport... I just have to hope that my team doesn't fall down the rabbit hole of thinking one position is all they need. (I'm a Seahawks fan by the by)

[@dr.pigskin]

Thanks for watching! For what it’s worth, I honestly think that Geno is pretty darn good and the Seahawks have done a good job building up their team, drafting Devon Witherspoon and JSN last year, Byron Murphy this year and hiring Mike MacDonald

[@seandillon1359]

This guys channel is gonna hit at least 25k this season. Being so new to KZbin with this great of structure and narration is impressive

[@danishskiwarehouse]

This is a well put-together and thought-provoking video, thank you. I’m only new to American football (I’m an Aussie and have been brought up on our vastly different ‘footy’) and find your fact-based approach far more helpful than highly emotive stuff produced just for clicks. Perhaps an additional argument you could have used was the Chad Henne 98 yard drive during the 2022 playoffs against the Jaguars when Mahomes injured his ankle. Obviously one play isn’t definitive but it surely demonstrates what a good offence the Chiefs have? I’ve heard talk about excluding the QB salary from the overall salary cap. Such a move would enable the same ‘franchise QB messiah’ that currently exists whereas the keeping the QB salary under the price cap may force teams to consider your opinion a little more judiciously. Anyway, thank you for the educating and entertaining piece.

[@kielmaguire5121]

I must say, for someone who has such a small channel this is a well thought out, well edited, well presented really good video. Cheers to you. Earned a sub

[@keith6032]

wow. totally changed my perspective on NFL Quarterbacks... thanks Dr. Pigskin!!!! great video bro

[@mc80466]

No one with any football knowledge thinks quarterbacks are so valuable that they can make any team a contender every year. First and most obvious is that the qb doesn’t play defense or special teams and therefore impacts at most 50% of the game. Second, you’ve set up an arbitrary standard for being valuable. Teams at random should make the playoffs 25%-40% of the time (winning division or changing wild card rules). That means if a qb single-handedly increased their team’s playoff rate to 50%, they would be immensely valuable, having literally doubled their team’s chance of making the playoffs. The QB is like the queen in chess. It’s estimated the queen is worth 9 “pawns”, rook is 5, bishop and knight are 3, and pawns 1. The queen is significantly more valuable than any other piece. It’s three times as valuable as the third best piece, roughly equal to two of the second best piece, and worth more than every pawn combined. And yet two bishops and a rook would kill a queen. So like a queen, the QB is the most valuable individual player, but not even close to as valuable as the rest of the team.

[@northcoasttcg]

@mc80466 you missed the point of that part of the video. Elite qbs are elite and should be valued as such. But there are only a handful of them. It’s the good QBs that barely effect their teams success at a replacement level, yet some how get paid at an elite rate, that are being overvalued.

[@thekingbarrelmaker7642]

You just earned a sub for saying something that needed to be said. I think that one thing you could have talked more about is the several examples of how people's perceptions of quarterbacks have changed after teams gave them more offensive talent to work with. For example, people were calling Josh Allen disappointing until his 2020 season, the year Buffalo added Stefon Diggs to the receiving corps. Also, Tua's job security was heavily questioned (and is still by some people) until his 2022 season, the year Miami added Tyreek Hill to the receiving corps. We can't forget that many Eagles fans were ready for Howie Roseman to trade Jalen Hurts until the 2022 season, the year AJ Brown became a cornerstone of the Eagles' offense. People say that these respective quarterbacks improved during these seasons, but the truth is that the front offices gave these quarterbacks better players to work with. That's not even mentioning how other teams have fallen apart after trading their best non-QB offensive players. You mentioned the DJ Moore trade and how that contributed to the Panthers' awful 2023 season. I think an even more glaring example is the AJ Brown trade. It should be no surprise that Tennessee fell apart after trading Brown (and replacing him with Treylon Burks, who already looks like a massive bust).

[@davidhochstetler4068]

Checks the Super Bowl winners the last 6 years

[@cadenoconnor6806]

Mahomes = anomaly

[@Derrick-i3r]

Only 3 guys mahomes, Brady, and stafford so not really a good argument

[@davidhochstetler4068]

@@Derrick-i3r fine. We can go back to 2013. Only the Foles win was with a QB who wasn’t, if not elite, then a notch down. Manning was a shell of himself but still did enough. I used to feel this same way, but present evidence shows otherwise

[@Derrick-i3r]

@@davidhochstetler4068 ok and was there a team that was just trash and the qb helped them win no so an elite qb and a good team makes it Herbert has put up spectacular stats and it hasn’t done nothing for his team

[@dr.pigskin]

Yes it’s true, the past 6 Super Bowls have been won by teams with Mahomes, Stafford and Brady. But they’ve also been good teams in their own right. 2023 Chiefs: 6th in defense, 18th in rushing 2022 Chiefs: 15th in defense, 10th in rushing 2021 Rams: 9th in defense, 20th in rushing 2020 Bucs: 5th in defense, 10th in rushing 2019 Chiefs: 18th in defense, 13th in rushing 2018 Patriots: 6th in defense, 8th in rushing Having a top 5 QB definitely helped put these teams over the top, but in my opinion they’re far from the only reason why these teams were successful.

[@phipsdeus2]

I did not expect a three six mafia reference in the video!! Great job!!

[@annchovie8748]

QB is the most volatile position in sports. When the team is good, the qb looks like a god. When the team is not good, the qb looks like he shouldn’t have made it past high school varsity

[@no.con.dom15]

You really think the QB has no effect on how good a team looks?

[@Dave002]

@@no.con.dom15 he didn't even somewhat imply that man.. like what?

[@no.con.dom15]

@@Dave002 I beg to differ. Sounds like he thinks a QB is divorced from how good or bad a team looks.

[@Dave002]

@@no.con.dom15 he quite literally explained it perfectly, qb is 100% the most volatile position, the same way the goalie is in hockey. any elite team, the qb play will more often than not be good enough to avoid serious criticism, (purdy, jimmy g, nick foles, mark sanchez back on that stacked jets team) where as bad teams, the qb will take the brunt of the criticism, just look how guys like justin herbert are talked about. the only elite team with a qb that gets criticized is really dallas, with dak, which is obvious as to why

[@no.con.dom15]

@@Dave002 No he didn't explain it perfectly. Obviously QB is a volatile position, but that still doesn't make the implications in his statements after correct. A QB elevate their team Judy like their team can elevate them. It's not mutually exclusive.

[@matthewivancic4311]

I think it's an interesting hypothesis, but it gets disproven every couple years when a team with a promising start loses their QB to injury, then they either scramble to find a replacement, or roll with the backup, and the entire team implodes, not just the QB position. Remember, the Jets were supposed to be an inner circle contender last season after Aaron Rodgers joined them, but they were lucky to claw to 7-10 behind Zach Wilson

[@adraboranlovesIronman]

This year looks like they won't even do that with 40 year old Rodgers. He needs to go

[@kb1401]

Great vid. Love the research and everything man. Keep it up!

[@stepcurrywita30]

Great video bro! Very intelligent, diligent, & insightful 👍🏿💯

[@ethanspringer5999]

The commanders decision seems like the right one now

[@crater044]

Yes they are overvalued. The NFL is designed to be the most QB friendly it has ever been. Defenses have been forced to give space, allowing receivers to get open easier, you cant hit the QB or else youll get penalized, they all mostly throw from the Shotgun because they didnt learn how to play under center, etc. So now, we are seeing the NFL overpay this position but heres the issue: overpaying a QB does not always equal results. Brady and Mahomes were on ultimate team friendly deals, hence why they managed to keep their teams intact and win so much. Stafford's Rams contract was not nearly as huge as it could have been. More often than not, paying massive bucks to a QB does not equal a SB win or run. It gives people the ILLUSION of thinking they are going to compete without guaranteeing it. Case in point: the Browns. Their overpaid QB (Watson) was hurt and their off the couch backup (Flacco) came in, played better and got them to the playoffs. The Dolpins are going to regret paying Tua because when Hill retires (and he says he will soon), he will be exposed as a subpar passer. The Giants lost their best player (Saquan) because they overpaid their QB. I can bring up other examples like Carson Wentz, Kevin Kolb and Sam Bradford.......QBs who were overpaid and did nothing with that money. Hell my QB, Dak Prescott, got paid......has won one playoff game against a medicore TB team since. Football is a team sport. Overpaying one position means you will be at a detriment to another. When a QB takes up a shit ton of your salary cap, expect to have issues in other areas. Notice how fans are always "THIS QB DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH HELP!!" Probably should blame that QB salary. Team building, chemisty, coaching, scheming, adapting with the players you have......thats what wins championships. Thats why Brady and Mahomes won a combined 5 SBs witnout having a clear #1 receiving threat (yes they had great defenses but to still put up the offensive numbers they did was still insane)......their coaches are masterminds at putting great teams together. Andy Reid doesn't get the respect he deserves for great team building........hes only been doing it for 20+ years.

[@michaelahurt]

Sure, all that and having a guy like Montana, Brady or Mahomes who consistently convert game winning drives. Everyone understands the value of _not_ paying a QB and having a strong roster. It's why QB's basically go 1-2-3 every year now. But they also understand the difference between a quality QB and a bad one and how hard it is just to find one of the 18 who doesn't suck. (It's really hard.) And it's even harder to find one of the 10 or so head coaches who make a real difference The reality is more often than not -- 97% of the time -- you aren't going to win a SB regardless of roster construction. But if you have a bad QB you won't win 100% of the time. You're the Browns and Lions and going 10 years without a competent QB and going 0-16. And _that_ is why you pay Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott. Because _someone_ will and because they give you a WAY better chance than Marcus Mariota or Brandon Wheedon and being competitive and not winning a SB is 1000% better than being a laughingstock. But QB's are _definitely_ overpaid. That's just what happens in a market with scarcity and no max salary though

[@tom97009]

@@michaelahurtwhat they are not understanding is a great team with a mid qb will majority of the time fall to a mid team lead by a great qb. Mahomes and Brady don’t have stacked teams. Remember Alex Smith had Tyreek and Kelce and what happen? Oh yea nothing’s. Then they get Mahomes and Kelce is and All time great. The Qb is what’s gonna bring you to the next level

[@stankyt5882]

I'm in agreement here, and it's my worries with my Jags. I love this team, I love them dearly, however I do not believe that Lawrence's paycheck reflects his potential. We needed help in so many other areas, boosting our run game, changing up the playbook and having Lawrence play under center more often and working on our D-Line and some better back up in our secondary and working on developing Engram and Allen and on and on and on, NOT throwing all of our money into the salary of our QB and hoping for the best. Of course other things like a classic Baalke draft will set us back a bit but this was egregious. Really hoping Doug knows what he's doing and not just tryna out-talent everyone like back in Philly

[@Mvenven]

Tua can play! He’s like a Modern drew Brees. Though he needs to retire

[@kmm.7289]

@@tom97009 what they absolutely had stacked teams

[@maxanderson8872]

Overall game IQ is an underrated concept in all major sports. Unless the athlete plays a solo sport, their ability to read situations and make smart decisions is crucial. I think that is the biggest strength of a guy like Purdy. He isnt the biggest or strongest, but he isnt arm punting into triple coverage. Same with basketball or hockey players on defense. The best defenders dont get caught out by a sudden change in direction of play

[@VinceLyle2161]

This is a great point.

[@iea8943]

As a bears fan my entire life, you absolutely need a quarterback lol

[@darthsadic]

He is a Vikings fan. They have Justin Jefferson and will find out really quickly how valuable a QB really is.

[@isambo400]

@@darthsadicKirk was underrated except in playoff games

[@acandela1294]

Yeah as a jets fan I agree. An abysmal QB will tank the team even when you have an elite defense and weapons

[@darthsadic]

@@acandela1294 Exactly my point.

[@SirCruxful]

@@darthsadicnot too shabby to start with no hockenson or Addison

[@pearchamp]

Great video as always doctor. Excited for the season to start with preseason games and fantasy drafts on the way!

[@dr.pigskin]

Thank you Pearchamp! Should be a fun season, I’m excited

[@faristalukdarcoaching]

As soon as you said Jon Bois I started to see the resemblance lol. Great video. My one tip would be to maybe make the graphs easier to read. For example with the current gen qb’s you could have the years next to each dot and the rushing attack and defence graph I would have flipped the y axis personally

[@kadestroud7848]

Foles played out of his mind though.😂

[@youngf.l.y.1467]

As a niners fan you’re right until it comes to the playoffs and/or super bowl …I’ve watched the elite qb be the SOLE difference in the outcome of the game

[@thattimestampguy]

15:41 Rbdm 18:56 Nerd Numbers Triple Crown 👑👑👑 20:44 It works when Purdy is passing it with the 49ers Offense🏈 21:08 Jake Browning’s 2023 Season 🏈 22:37 Non-Elite Quarterbacks leading Elite Passing Games 🏈 24:05 Jimmy G, Brock Purdy, and Jared Goff 24:35 🇺🇸🦅The Amazing Eagles-Patriots SuperBowl 52. 25:38 You don’t need to have an Elite QB to have an Elite Passing Game (it’s true, bit Elite QBs win Rings more than unelite QBs, but that’s easy to understand) 30:00 Bad Rosters Lose Most Games. 31:31 OVER-Paid 💰 for an unjustified lack of value. “Aged like milk.” 🥛 32:20 “Tua, $53 Million Dollars, Tagoviloa.” 🐬 33:57 The 49ers are really expensive. 🏅 35:03 It’s not quite as simple as “Have a good quarterback” and things will be fixed. 35:52 Rebuild The Team before putting in a good quarterback, or he’s gonna have a bad time. 37:12 Russell Wilson. And others 37:49 “You need the Franchise to have a Franchise Quarterback.”

[@NailsOU]

wow this commanders section at 28:36 has aged like deshaun watson. i generally like your content and agree that football is an 11 on 11 game, but it's pretty funny watching that section with the past two months of commanders football behind us.

[@aecet9652]

The editing is fucking amazing brotha

[@sas_quatch]

As Brett Kollman mentions in his coverage of Peyton Manning’s disaster game in the playoffs against the ‘04 Patriots: “Peyton is on the Mt. Rushmore of quarterbacks for a reason […] We have learned nothing in the last 20 years. To this day, we still define great quarterbacks by their worst moments, and we use those moments as justification for why they shouldn’t get long-term contracts at the top of the market […] Everyone is overrated apparently, and it’s just exhausting. So the next time you look at the Trevor Laurence deal and raise an eyebrow, or you scoff at Tua making $50+ millions dollars per year which of course he’s going to, or Jared Goff or even Brock Purdy next year, just remember [Peyton’s disaster game]. Remember that even great quarterbacks are capable of frightening levels of mediocrity from time to time. […] Great quarterbacks are still going to have bad games, it doesn’t mean that they’re not great quarterbacks.”

[@TheGoldenApex]

Genuinely a great video. You’re fucking brilliant, this video really entertained me. I agree with alot of your takes, and I’m glad someone finally said them. Also GO 49ers BANG BANG NINER GANG!!! This is what I think of the video:🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐❤️❤️❤️

[@brandonguzman2757]

Dr. pigskin, this is a very thoughtful piece and I agree with you completely. The quarterback obsession of the NFL is either laziness on the part of organizations and coaches, or/and part of the savior complex of our society, or marketing. You know people love their heroes and you can't find too much of a hero on a gridiron that fields 22 men so easily. Add a dash of looks, charm, or wildly fantastical plays and you've got a good recipe for some good BS right there. The naysayers will tell you the game has changed but your video right here proves that is wrong. I hope you get a lot of subscribers.

[@marceloverlorx8232]

The easiest way to a good passing game is a good qb. That's the awnser. You can't just bring up Nick Foles considering that he is like the one exception in the past 11 years

[@TheShepdawg9]

That's just not true. Not at all. Quarterback play is greatly influenced by the play design, play calling and personnel. Look at tua, he looked AWFUL in the beginning, and once they added tyreek and the nerd coach he looks like a superstar. Stafford goes to the rams, superbowl, despite some forgettable Detroit years. Tom brady's final year in New England, pedestrian, goes to the bucs, elite year. Aaron rodgers has a down year in 2019, they change some personnel and coaches, two straight mvp's. I could do this all day.

[@marceloverlorx8232]

@TheShepdawg9 @TheShepdawg9 Stafford, Tom, and Aaron are all explained by improving their teams. They had down years but were still good before them. Scheme plays a huge part in any players game. Not just QBs. Using scheme and team as an argument can never work because having a better team or coach around you will always make for a better jump in production. That doesn't make the QB any less valuable. But here are some examples of passing games improving because of QBs and not coaches or players in recent years: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud, and Tom Brady which was your example but actually shows how much a QB impacts a passing game. Jameis was a below average QB the year before and as soon as they improved the position they went to the superbowl. Had nothing to do with other positions or coaches. Even Stafford proved this when he immediately won a superbowl after the rams upgraded at qb. Not at coach, not at WR or Oline, Quaterback. The best example of this is far and away Mahomes tho. The Chiefs went from a consistent playoff team that could win a game or two to a borderline dynasty as soon as they replaced a GOOD QB in Alex Smith with a GREAT one. They even lost Tyreek and STILL WON THE SUPERBOWL!!! That's how much of a difference a great qb makes vs a good one

[@TheShepdawg9]

@@marceloverlorx8232 every single one of your examples is a case against yourself. Firstly, I never said having a better qb doesn't help increase production, I said that's its not nearly as important as the other pieces combined. Mahomes is definitely better than Alex Smith, but mahomes benefited from an emerging tyreek hill to go along with an already solidified star in kelce. CJ Stroud received an elevated level of wide receiver play, where 3 of his receivers graded incredibly highly, independent of QB play. Tom is absolutely better than Winston, but the offence's output came from less negative plays. Jameis is a detriment at qb. It wasn't a transition from good to great qb, it was AWFUL to great. The Bengals drafted 2 elite receivers within the same 2 year stretch as burrow joining. Not a good example. I want to know of some examples where the offence was poor despite having good weapons and a mediocre qb. Any ideas? Every example you've given has involved mass team improvement outside of the qb.

[@TheShepdawg9]

@@marceloverlorx8232 also, Alex Smith was not a good qb. Not by any stretch. You're making my point. Alex did absolutely nothing until he arrived on a fantastic squad, with kelce and Andy Reid, and they won 12 games. The difference between superbowl team and 12 win team isn't much at all, in fact a lot of 12 win teams win the superbowl. You can't act like that's a major upgrade.

[@bigkev9539]

​@@TheShepdawg9 *Lol. Alex Smith made it to a NFC Championship game with the 49ers before getting hurt.* *It's almost as if coaching and defense have an impact on how well the QB plays.*

[@legacy_the_archer]

Purdy is elite in his own way , his best trait is how he anticipates throws . Hes throwing way before a receiver breaks .

[@rx1026]

I agree 99% of the time- that 1% is Lamar who saved the Ravens. That team in 2018 was 4-5 when he took over and Lamar went 6-1 leading them to the playoffs. That Ravens team only had 4 pro bowlers, 3 of which were on defense. The best wr he's ever had was Hollywood Brown and his best rb to date has been Gus Edwards. That guy's value can not be understated. HW: Remind me who his supporting cast was during his first mvp szn

[@Jordan-tk4ym]

Wish I found this channel earlier, this gonna be a staple of this season for me

[@OceanLake66]

I love a good hot take and not just a take to get clicks. Respect I’m gonna enjoy this one

[@beckett2943]

Great vid, captures something I’ve been feeling for a while

[@calebkincannon4810]

lol the Jayden Daniels take aged like milk but i do agree with your overall point. Jayden did go to a talented team that needed a QB to make the offense run and they got one and are winning games despite a bad defense because of it. I do think teams take QBs without any development plan around them and just expect them to play well. CJ Stroud, Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson all went to teams with great offensive coordinators that could get them going quick but history would tell you that the best way to develop a QB is to have the supporting cast around them with veteran QBs in the the QB room and great OC and play calling. It takes a dedicated organization to draft, develop, and maintain rosters for QBs.

[@Xeryph_]

Because everyone wants their QB to be Josh Allen. That dude definitely carries his team, but it shines a light on the defense and they have let him down.

[@MrShanester117]

Yeah he really carried the team with that 18 interceptions

[@nephrien3807]

@@MrShanester117 was among the best of the league in basicalyl every efficiency and advanced stat lots of turnovers but also lots of touchdowns and he basically willed his team to the 2 seed so

[@nightmarekilo84]

@@nephrien3807ok let’s slow the roll 6-6 they were in a hole at one point and one reason was because of those turnovers

[@jeffgarner4037]

Allen is a product of his cast, not an elite superstar...yet. Before Diggs, inconsistent turn over machine teetering on bust. With Diggs, regular playoff loser. If he falls flat this year he will lose his shot at elite status, but if he can succeed it will HELP boost his stock.

[@beastarts1095]

Allen is an amazing QB, but let’s be real, he’s a tier below some current guys, and last season was just evidence that proves he’s not a tier one QB. He single handedly lost the Bills games because of his reckless play. As amazingly talented as he might be, he needs a harness on otherwise he’ll throw games away.

[@sup4055]

This video was well done and your screen presence, scripting and delivery were very good, so good, in fact I was surprised to see

[@corncake1025]

Such an underrated video. Great analysis, and I don’t even agree with all of it. Keep up the great work!

[@joshlee6445]

The thing is, there are the Blake Bortles, Rex Grossmans, Nick Foles of the world. But there are also the Mahomes, Rogers, Peyton Mannings of the world. When you have a general who the soldiers will go to war for (also why Deshaun Watson will never have the same success)

[@RaoVenu]

Seriously, can I watch a single QB video without the commenter shitting all over Brock Purdy? As a 49ers fan, the most important thing for me with regards to Purdy is that he rarely makes mistakes / dumb decisions. When he does, he learns from his mistakes and gets better with no ego. Which is more than you can say about Josh Allen / Dak Prescott. 49ers have oozed confidence since Brock took over and they have lost only 1 game because of his play (last year against the Ravens). Purdy plays aggressively (unlike Garrapulo), is calm under pressure and has a killer instinct. All these physical traits / talent is over-rated IMHO. How many QBs were "more talented" than Brady over the last 20+ years.

[@JohnOMalley-c6s]

Shanahan is the reason your team is good not the QB you made a Super Bowl with Garoppolo that means its the coach not the player. That's why Garoppolo and Purdy didn't win one they're not good enough.

[@calebemerson9317]

I think purdy is a really good QB in a great situation. But I’d wager if Shanahan was given the opportunity to 1 for 1 trade purdy for Allen or Dak he’d do it in a heartbeat.

[@youngf.l.y.1467]

@@JohnOMalley-c6sfool watch the offense with Jimmy and watch it with Brock it’s Obvious that Brock is superior ..you can hate all you want Brock is amazing just physically limited

[@Ytuser485]

@@calebemerson9317definitely not Dak. Nobody wants Dak or his contract. Dude has had 1 elite year and is paid like a top-5 QB.

[@calebemerson9317]

@@Ytuser485 Dak hasn’t been in the top 5 payed QBs for years now. He has 3 seasons over 4,000 yards, 3 seasons with a passer rating over 100, 3 seasons over 30 TDs, 3 seasons with MVP votes, has one of the highest completions % in the league (and ever), one of the highest TD-INT rates ever (to put it in perspective Josh Allen has more interceptions than Dak while having almost 40 less passing TD’s). If the cowboys don’t pay him reports are that multiple teams are already lining up to bid for his services next year. Get the bias out and look at it objectively.

[@darnell16player]

This is a good video. I wish more people and the people in prominent positions would realize that football is a TEAM sport as a whole and less assuming a QB is bad when the cast around him is bad for example when Justin was on the bears he had no offensive line, no good surrounding cast around him as the organization never learned to develop a QB

[@Han-stiz]

You put me on so heavy with Home. Nose bleed and their other stuff is fire

[@yzfool6639]

Like Dr P said, you have to have an elite passing attack to win an SB. You don't need an elite QB to have an elite passing attack. You also don't need a coat to get warm in the snow. You can learn to build a fire and construct shelters instead.

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Yes you do

[@christinesuh5]

Loving the quality of! Can definitely see the progress, keep up the good work!

[@dr.pigskin]

Nurse Pigskin! Thank you so much, I wouldn’t be able to do this without you ☺️

[@tylermathis-kx7pu]

Uhh… you either have a great QB or you better have everything else perfect and an above average QB… And to be honest, those perfect teams don’t always carry over year to year. Especially the defenses…

[@Dryltd]

But what is a great QB. The Cowboys swear Dak is and I think he is fool's gold. QB analyst swear Purdy is not great but he does his job. What's greater than that. Cousin isn't great and he get paid highly for being competent. Brady and Mahomes are great and they took contractually "less" money. Brady was a system QB in his early years. The kicker was winning many of those big patriot games.

[@JamCooper]

This is kind of true, but the whole premise of this video is that the statement you made isn't even as true as you seem to think it is. What have the great QBs not named Mahomes even done in this league? Of course, only one team can ever win the Super Bowl, but in chasing after the Chiefs how many teams, especially AFC teams, have overvalued and overdrafted quarterbacks that aren't even going to be on the field at the same time as Mahomes when they could be drafting players that actually have a legitimate chance of beating him, like defensive lineman and defensive backs? Or even drafting receivers or offensive lineman give their young QB some insulation? The entire point this guy made is that a team like the commanders had absolutely no business drafting a quarterback this year, and he's right. The Falcons are even worse. They payed Kirk Cousins all that money, just to spend the 8th overall pick on yet another quarterback because they were saying that if they are actually good, they aren't going to be drafting at 8 again.

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

@@JamCooperThe great qb’s in nfl history have all won sb’s or multiple of them. We dont count qb’s that put up gaudy stats in the regular season and then fold over in the playoffs. That is not a great qb

[@randombiasedrevert]

Purdy vs Mahomes was a great example. The chiefs roster on paper should not be where they are at all but Mahomes elevates them. Purdys team is all round great on paper but he doesn’t have the it factor to win them the game. He’s a good QB but he can’t pull a rabbit out of a hat like the generational guys.

[@TheShepdawg9]

​@@SycoticForeverNeverAFthat I'd such a dumb thing to say. People like you make me mad for how stupid your comments are. Has it ever occurred to you that other players on the team facilitate those Super Bowl wins? Or are you honestly suggesting that great quarterbacks just win super bowls without any external factors?

[@Dr.cozmore]

QBs are like the corner piece in a puzzle. Another piece may contain key details to the central image, or be a better jumping off point. But When in doubt it’s an obvious building block that can determine the path you use to the final goal. Maybe you need a sturdier line for a pure pocket passer, maybe theres a guy that throws deep so you’ll need a reliable Tight to get him out of busted plays, maybe they score quick so having a ball hawk DB is extremely useful for getting the ball back in his hand in a close game, etc.

[@Dr.cozmore]

Consumerism plays a big part too; they want a face of the franchise, they want high scoring games but every position is so important you could really make an argument for any and all positions being focal

[@moosen1262]

this video made me appreciate baseball so much more

[@randomperson1048]

You are a good man Dr Pigskin

[@Zocki1909]

I really like this video. One thing I would add to your QB Stats sequence is that I really think recorded passing yards should be reduced to pure "Ball in the air"-Yards. Oftentimes the receiver gets a lot of YAC because of the scheme not the decision of the qb. And when I first started to get into football in 2017 I was shocked because stats made me think that every other throw was a 50 yard bomb. Since then I learned alot about stats and tracking of them and I am utterly disappointed. QB's are shown to be demi-gods with the passing yards of 4.5k and more. But rarely shoot some missiles into the air. That's why I think QB's should be tracked and valued by "ball-in-the-air"-yards. And the receiving yards should be replaced with the YAC stat.

[@paulellington1505]

There are more than a couple of examples of a great team carrying a good quarterback to a title. The Ravens got Trent Dilfer a ring and the Bucs did it for Brad Johnson and one can say the same thing about Joe Flacco and Eli Manning damn sure wasn't an elite quarterback during either year that New York won a championship. But a good video overall it helped me realize that Drew Brees was a way better player than I first anticipated.

[@prestonhunter45]

I do agree with you, it’s crazy how teams get rid of QBs after 2 years when they spent a top pick on them. I will say though that if you don’t have a top 10 qb, you won’t get far into the playoffs. For example my Seahawks have been pretty dang good these past couple of years but we’ve had Wilson’s corpse and Geno (who I love)

[@vladimirdoyle3934]

The QB's contract needs to be incentives. Idc if they pay him 50 mil a yr but if he's having good passer ratings, high completions, TD, low sacks, wins games, goes to the playoffs, wins some playoff games. Not 6-11 record and they team can't afford the player that help the team

[@ChiemelaDN]

This is an excellent video essay 🙏

[@benjaminbrown5143]

Your spot on with this one.

[@JohnR-zk2wb]

Good job, man. Well done.

[@Corvilux52]

I'm glad someone else made this video because I've been saying the same for a while. I'm only 2 minutes into the video. People think a team lives or dies by it's QB and that's just wrong. The 2000 Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl with TRENT DILFER in an era where offense was harder to play as a QB. You don't need a Patrick Mahomes, although it definitely doesn't hurt. It's the same as having the #1 Receiver, the #1 Edge Rusher, the #1 Corner. You don't HAVE to have them, but it will never hurt to have them. Look at the absolute talent around Brock Purdy. If he fails to put up numbers on that offense, there is a major problem. Look at the talent Bryce Young had around him. If he wins more than 4 games as a rookie it's a miracle, Carolina straight up BUTCHERED that team to get Bryce. And it doesn't come down to QB, it comes down to all the pieces you put around him. To anyone who's tried telling me wins are a QB stat, I tell them to take the other 10 players on offense off the field and put the QB out there alone and tell me how many wins he gets. To win games, you all around need a team that synergizes well within the system together to maximize their strengths and hide their weaknesses. If the ENTIRE offense is a weakness, it doesn't matter if you've got Aaron Rodgers at QB; you're not winning a ring. Also keep in mind that a lot of QBs taken early in the draft are going to teams that were a total clusterfuck the year before. There's a reason they have the #1 pick, they're ass. Teams have a VERY bad habit of using early draft picks to take a QB that's "can't miss" instead of drafting a piece that a QB can actually give the ball to or a piece that can protect a QB, so you end up with Bryce Youngs in the league who I honestly think are better than what they get to show. And it's not ALWAYS a them problem, sometimes it genuinely is that the team around them is a dumpster fire. All you need at QB is a guy you can put on the field who can make a throw and doesn't make stupid decisions. That's it. At the NFL level, you should know how to read a defense, you should know what you're doing. Just go out there and execute.

[@michaelwright4074]

Good content, thanks. Tua is a system qb, according to Mike McDaniel, since he built a system around this accurate qb, who was a failure prior. On the other hand, Purdy executes plays and does not have limitations like Tua. Aaron Rodgers does a good job of explaining how rare this is with these young qbs. Most qbs have to improvise after the 1st or 2nd read , which helps bad OCs cover up bad play calling, while Purdy releases deep throws way before the WR looks back on those plays. He may or may not end up being a star, but kc, det, rams, Mia, etc would take him over 20+ qbs, including the rpo guys. Keep up the good analysis

[@alexhussey1308]

There are two glaring omissions here. 2. The salary component of roster construction / rookie pay scale Other positions are much more liquid than QB. You can get a pro-bowl caliber running back on your doorstep tomorrow if you wanted to, but you can’t plan to build a whole team on the peripheral and then trade for a viable veteran QB. Even if you find a good one they’re either going to be super expensive or old. Often both. If you get lucky enough to draft a QB that quickly becomes competent, it allows you the freedom to improve the roster around them. This is the most viable method of competing in the absence of a top 5 QB. You’re trading the draft capital spent on the quarterback for more money to spend on “the franchise.” Because QBs have the largest contracts, getting one at a discount through the rookie contract provides more surplus value than any other position would. Relatively speaking, you can go acquire a high end safety, guard, linebacker etc much easier through FA and trades than you can for QBs. This is exactly what the Bengals did. That defense was filled out rapidly with proven veterans seemingly overnight. And guess what? Just because you picked a QB and they stunk doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth the spin. 2. Coaching. You can win without a top end QB, but you absolutely need a top end offensive playcaller in that case. Mandatory. The advantages of elite coaching are undersold. Coaches don’t count against the salary cap. Coaches don’t get injured. Coaches don’t hold out. A great coach is a force multiplier. In EVERY single instance where a less-than-superstar QB has found success, an elite offensive scheme has been behind it. This is important because teams that don’t have someone like Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDaniel, Ben Johnson, etc, can’t try to copy the personnel strategies of those teams and then expect the same results with inferior coaching.

[@LeoAr37]

I agree, but also if QBs are 1/3 of the passing game (receivers, OL, QB) and you distribute the money among the 3 pillars, that pillar is 1 person so of course it's going to be a high salary on that guy.

[@maemorri]

Tom Brady was such a consistent winner, because he was underpaid throughout his career. Super Bowl winning QB seldom repeat. Why? Because after they win their next contract is huge, and then their team is hamstrung. Look at Flacco. He won the Super Bowl, snatched his monster contract, and never was able to play at that level again. But when he played for the Browns he showed he still had a lot of game on a good team. There's a pattern of QBs contending on rookie contracts. Probably because in their 3rd or 4th year they are playing like a franchise QB, but still not getting paid like one.

[@VinceLyle2161]

Spot on. In a sport with a salary cap, paying your QB means getting worse at all other positions.

[@perfectcell5111]

Cant win without one especially since rushing has lost its value

[@GriddySolos09]

yeah you can

[@perfectcell5111]

@@GriddySolos09 😂 last 10 years would like a word w you

[@GriddySolos09]

@@perfectcell5111 yk what a joke is?

[@MrShanester117]

Running backs have lost their value. Rushing has not

[@ozyssah]

​@murxyYT the last time it happened was 2015 and it took one of the best defenses ever on the other side of the ball. realistically you NEED a good/great qb, or someone like foles or flacco that played at an elite level for their runs

[@Archerforthelord]

This was an incredible video

[@TheMelnTeam]

QB contribute the most wins above replacement compared to any other position in football. But their cap hit is also often a few times higher than good players at other positions. Intuitively, the assertion "QBs are overvalued" makes sense, since free agent QBs tend to be paid as if they're in the top 5 of their position pretty often. There are way more "top 5 contracts" than there are actual top 5 QBs, and thus some of them must be overvalued in a literal sense. The problem is making that evaluation correctly, in advance. The end of the video talks about building the situation around the QB first before getting them. That makes some sense, but you're kicking the can. Once that QB + cast performs well, now you must either let that QB go, or let his supporting cast go. Basically, the 49ers' situation. But hey, they made a few superbowls, and might have one more run in them. It does seem to be a fine strategy, despite that it will need resets every few years. Also, good luck keeping a great coaching staff for long!

[@christianchellis9057]

Everyone says the quarterback is the most critical, but it takes more skill to catch than it does to throw. The catching is what I’m usually more impressed with than the passing.

[@cory8080]

I played WR at the p5 level and was a qb in HS cause that's where they put the athlete who can throw it far when you're at a small school. Gotta say, this is a horrible take. Being a great or even good passer is so much harder than being good at catching the ball.

[@TimmyAkins]

Exactly my thought as well. As i niners fan and i love purdy so much but I know at the end of the day, its really scheme and supporting casts that matter. But then again isnt that the case of all great teams to ever dominate the sport. As a Qb, knowing you have good supporting cast, great coaching that believes in your ability and a good defense as well. That can literally motivate you to play better than what you think you can even be capable of as a qb and i think Tom brady and Brock is a perfect example of this. That being said, i also think if we pay purdy for example but we draft well in the future and get decent supporting casts in FA and with the coaching we already have, the niners will still be sucessful for a long time.

[@dr.pigskin]

Oh absolutely, these next few drafts are gonna be massive for the 49ers. If Rickey Pearsall turns into a good player… makes life a lot easier

[@ruthlessjones8220]

I feel like Purdy is the epitome of this video but he is also just a rarity in the league. The Niners offense makes it so he doesn’t have to cover for shortcomings like bad receivers, linemen, or running-back. Plus he’s on a rookie deal so they can afford all the talent around him without having to pay him much. Not to even mention their defense. I think their team building is elite but impractical to find or afford those caliber of players. Idk I’m interested in seeing what they do in a few years and how their losses will affect them after paying Purdy.

[@TimmyAkins]

@@ruthlessjones8220 yeah but you gotta understand tho that a good organisation is not just gonna sit down and wait for the team to get bad just to see if purdy can ball out after he gets paid. They are still gonna find elite talent whichever way possible. Look at brady in NE, he never had to play with bad oline or tes or recievers heck they literally got him Moss and then look at the defenses in ne as well, studs every where. So yes they would pay purdy but they wont dump a bad team on him, that would be dumb and thats part or the essence of this video.

[@skillganon606]

​@TimmyAkins and Bill was ruthless he'd cut great players in their prime and bring in new ones that somehow always fell in to lock step. The only one he never succeeded with was Tom. And you could argue he did succeed replace a QB cause I think Bledsoe was the highest paid QB in the league when he replaced him with Tom. Also poor Bledsoe got replaced by a sixth round then an undrafted guy.

[@davis2k1234]

@@TimmyAkins Delusional Brady had a No1 WR older Moss for 2 seasons in NE he was constantly surrounded by mediocre to bad offense he had to carry see NE the last 4 seasons since he left

[@theamaeve8175]

As an Eagles fan, one of the things that makes Howie Roseman such a great GM is he is constantly building his teams to support the QB. Always prioritizes a good OL. Then when they drafted Wentz, they picked up Jeffery. After drafting Hurts, they drafted Smith and traded for Brown.

[@ozyssah]

i mean, a qb that truly elevates their team to playoff contention is rare af. there are not 75 in the history of the nfl that fall into that list imo, really only 4 qbs in the past 2 decades who are like that. (Brady, Peyton, Rodgers & Mahomes)

[@martinvulu1848]

Line coach here. The Lions are a prime example, a great line gets the short 2nds/3rds & allows OCs to take shots with above average QBs/Wrs.

[@ViciVida]

Looks at a list of every team that has won a Super Bowl. I’ll watch the video but you got an uphill battle

[@bencheevers6693]

I follow everything you're saying and agree with you and it seems completely obvious however it just doesn't feel right, the teams absolutely believe wholeheartedly in the opposite premise and that makes me think I couldn't possibly know better than them. Edit: I can tell you this is unequivocally not the case in Madden

[@Mr_Miles_45]

Great video! I’ve been saying this for a couple years, the owners and media got drunk off Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rivers and thought throwing was the cheat code. Then you pay guys 15% of Cap that aren’t worth it, that’s how you end up paying Dak $60M per year with less playoff wins than Brock purdy

[@bigkev9539]

*The most important positions for winning a Superbowl historically speaking are:* *Offense: Center and/or OT (especially LT), QB* *Defense: DT/LB (especially ILB), outside CB.*

[@austinm5618]

I think two things can be true at the same time: a truly elite QB can elevate your team and take you to the next level… however, that team still has to be present and at least decent to take advantage of this boost. An average/somewhat above average team with an elite QB will go on to do some pretty great things, but… an elite team can do these pretty great things regardless of who is under center. In fact, you would truly have to have an entirely incompetent QB, head coach, and front office to hinder an elite roster and elite team. As in, this QB would TRULY have to be bad, the head coach not be able to scheme up plays to overcome this bad QB play, and for the front office to do nothing to fix the QB play issue. If you have an elite team with a bad QB, literally all you have to do is trade/draft for even an average or somewhat decent QB. So, with all that said, as an NFL GM, statistically speaking your top priority should be building up talent evenly across your roster before giving up immense draft capital and burning your salary cap space on an elite QB. The Panthers will not put themselves in a position to win a Super Bowl by trading all their first round picks for the foreseeable future and several of their top players to acquire Patrick Mahomes. However… I would bet a team like the 49ers could remain competitive and likely still make it to the Super Bowl by trading Brock Purdy for a decent, serviceable veteran QB on a budget contract and some draft capital for the future.

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

The way I look at it is that a team can overcome a bad QB and still be good, but a great QB can overcome a bad team and make them good. That's where I think the importance of QB comes in. It just makes things easier regarding personal.

[@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt]

Great video!

[@vinnieandhispizza6299]

You know, this video made more sense before Jayden Daniels started carrying the Commanders to relevance by himself

[@fantasyawait]

To be honest i think the title of the video should be "The NFL overvalues GOOD quarterbacks" there isnt such thing as overvaluing a mahomes Allen or burrow. The great to elite qbs elevate team be honest if mahomes wasnt the QB of the chiefs would they have made the playoffs let alone the super bowl? If Allen didn't start playing like an MVP would they have turned the season around and got the 2nd seed? Not to mention how the run game for the bills and ravens has been allen and lamar putting it on their backs

[@chiecheung25]

Burrow is not that good. The superbowl run was made by their defense. And browning played at least as good as burrow. Just good players. Now joe has to really carry them. He will have trouble making the playoffs the coming years

[@TheShepdawg9]

Mahomes is not carrying that team. The play calling and personnel is elite. In the 4 games he has sat out, the backup quarterbacks played out of their minds.

[@isambo400]

Allen throws up on himself before games

[@fantasyawait]

@@chiecheung25 joe isnt that good is one of the coldest takes ive read

[@fantasyawait]

@@TheShepdawg9 my dude he had the worst weapons in the league last year, i mean reid hadn't won a super bowl before mahomes came to the chiefs, and we saw how matt Nagy ruined trubisky and was run out of Chicago plus his weapons lets not pretend that his weapons werent the worst in the league

[@James-y7j7m]

Holy long over-simplifications Batman!... Obviously you have to have some team structure and pieces in place to be successful, but you need either a great QB and a decent Offense, or very rarely, a decent QB and a once in a decade Defense, if you're going to compete in the NFL. With the far greater percentage, you will need a great QB to be a consistent champion.

[@TheShepdawg9]

...but do teams have good quarterbacks, or do great teams make their qbs look great?

[@jwcarroll6378]

Great vid. Appreciate the breakdown of how many factors determine a QB's success or lack their of. 29:10 Though since you want to talk about WSH and their poor defense, I sure we can ignore them drafting Johnny Newton DT (1st rd talent, drafted in rd 2) or Mike Sanstril CB (2nd rd) with their surplus of draft capital. And they even address the OL with Coleman in the 3rd rd, like other competitors have (see Orlando Brown). But hey, keep it up. Just maybe used a better example than a team with surplus draft capital. Because WSH did not take a QB in 2020 draft with the 2nd rd overall selection and look how it served them. ;3

[@dr.pigskin]

Fair enough! Newton in the 2nd is good value, and Sainrisril is intriguing, they certainly didn’t come away empty handed. It’s not a given, but if they can hit on those guys, life gets much easier. Thanks for watching!

[@youdont.needtoknow]

Your title enrages me. You've roped me in. I will be writing a longer comment in 40 mins.

[@jtwk3400]

Preseason starts today and the doctor uploads? Someone pinch me

[@dr.pigskin]

It’s a great day to be a fan of this glorious sport 😎

[@sadboy1696]

I can provide a counter argument, Good QB sells Play actions, play actions back the defense off, good QBs get game planned. You’d rather deal with 2-3 first down via runs then 2-3 first in that air, it’s more likely that first down comes with 5 to 10 yards tacked on. Good QBs make good offense, keeping the defense off the field and playing ahead. It’s easier to play d when you’re up 7 or 14.