The NHL Salary Cap Is Going Up, What Does It Mean For Mitch Marner's Next Deal? | SDP

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Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the report that the NHL Salary Cap will be rising a large amount this summer. How will this affect the next deal that Mitch Marner, Connor McDavid & Others sign?
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@pekkokuopanportti6859
@pekkokuopanportti6859 7 күн бұрын
I think most players will still want to sign 8-year contracts because the risk of injury is so high, and the long contract protects against the severe income loss it could cause.
@JNJ1014
@JNJ1014 6 күн бұрын
Idk man, I'd bet if teams keep pushing for 8 years w/the massive jump in the salary cap, the only way it'll happen is if top players get 90%+ of the total contract coming from signing bonuses & full no-move clauses. No way guys are leaving as much as $30MM on the table w/o other incentives.
@deltagolavista1
@deltagolavista1 7 күн бұрын
I think a lot of teams are going to start working with internal caps throughout the off season to give themselves better cap flexibility during the season. Any team that continues to spend to the cap in the offseason will be making financial mistakes.
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut 7 күн бұрын
There’s two reason to sign long term; you could get hurt and be unable to play OR your game drops off mid 30s when that short term contract ends and your next contract is a fraction of what it could have been if you signed an 8 year deal.. Either way it’s a gamble
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 7 күн бұрын
How long till the Leaf's CAP out again? 20% of 95.5 million is 19.1$ million. By 27/28 that's 22.7$ million. And the 19.1$ million salary is now only 16.8% of the teams cap. A lot of these long 8 millionish contracts now look great for the teams who signed them. Marner is going to be asking for 14 to 15 million. Should have traded him last year and shaken things up.
@1jazyjaz
@1jazyjaz 7 күн бұрын
No matter how high the cap goes, I would not give him more than 12 max. He definitely is not worth A. Mathew's money. If he truly means that he loves playing here, prove it buy being less greedy and take less. The team still needs to fill other holes. Brad should learn from other GMs.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon 3 күн бұрын
Mitch will make more AAV than Auston next season.
@deBebbler
@deBebbler 7 күн бұрын
Larkin $8.7M through 2031 Raymond $8.025M through 2032 Seider $8.55M through 2031 Yzerman just might know what he is doing.
@nerinamak3298
@nerinamak3298 7 күн бұрын
Have you seen his free agent signings? Yikes
@deBebbler
@deBebbler 7 күн бұрын
@@nerinamak3298 I said *might*
@p90ischeap81
@p90ischeap81 5 күн бұрын
Can't get out of the bottom 10 what you talking about? Non of those players sniff the Leafs big dogs either
@justvvenom1177
@justvvenom1177 7 күн бұрын
Salary cap increasing or not, you can’t a afford another player making near 13M+. Thats just insanity
@pilotamurorei
@pilotamurorei 7 күн бұрын
this is why the avs ditched Rantanen. Watching the Maple queefs screw their team over the "core 4" is exactly why Rantanen is GONE.
@ToaastyKoyote
@ToaastyKoyote 7 күн бұрын
I mean i doubt that. They LOST a huge driving factor. Necas playing with Mack doesn't do anything different than when Moose was. Just not as good as Moose was. Drury isnt gonna be a 2nd line centre in the NHL so i dont see HOW they came out on top. What wingers donthe Avs have? Thier depth SUCKS and that on MANAGMENT. Also you sound incredibly stupid when saying queefs. Go grow up child​@pilotamurorei
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 күн бұрын
Id throw crazy contracts to McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, prime Ovechkin, prime Crosby, Makar, Rantanen types, but that’s the thing. Marner isn’t part of that category of players, nor is Nylander or Tavares, i think that’s where Toronto fucked up, not giving too much top heavy contracts but to who. Colorado has Landeskog probably done playing hockey even if he does comes back and Nichushkin being a nuisance for how many playoffs now ? They see the bigger picture and had to take a tough decision to keep their window open. Injury prone Lehkonen and Drouin are also part of that questionable top6.
@RyanJones4444
@RyanJones4444 7 күн бұрын
We can and we will 🤢
@justvvenom1177
@justvvenom1177 7 күн бұрын
@ Disagree on part of what you said there. Nylander is definitely a top 30 player and worth his deal with the cap expanding and his term. Especially in the playoffs. Anyone watching the leafs the last 3-4 years know he is arguably their most clutch player when it matters the most. Not to mention a 40 goal scorer the last few years.
@ShreejiMaharajAlways
@ShreejiMaharajAlways 7 күн бұрын
I would rather trade for Crosby and give huge contract to Rantanen than letting Marner comeback on anywhere near 14 mil
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 7 күн бұрын
Anything over 10 is lunacy unless you are a team desperate for some star power in free agency, like Chicago, Utah or maybe San Jose … Buffalo ? If Marner’s is truly a mercenary why not. Toronto might be Toronto enough to sign him 13+ and we all know it.
@HutchIsOnYT
@HutchIsOnYT 7 күн бұрын
Crosby is never ever ever ever getting traded
@DiabloManiacz
@DiabloManiacz 6 күн бұрын
With the new cap u can sign Maner and Rantanen for 14M AND even add another 14M player.
@jkp97
@jkp97 6 күн бұрын
Loooool you Toronto schmucks kill me 🤣🤣
@JohnnyWick9733
@JohnnyWick9733 6 күн бұрын
And you wonder why you didn’t get a GM position.
@JordanStreib
@JordanStreib 7 күн бұрын
If it's going up that high aquiring guys who signed 6-8yr deals recently is way to go. First contracts being signed rn will be overpays.
@davidmayers1645
@davidmayers1645 7 күн бұрын
If he is a point a game in this years playoffs and Toronto makes it to the 3rd round… you can offer him a contract. Other than that there is no proof your core can get it done and you have go a different direction!
@JKrolling-qz4lu
@JKrolling-qz4lu 7 күн бұрын
Teams that have 1.) managed their cap and 2.) balanced out their %AAV throughout their lineup and 3.) have key pieces on longer term contracts will reap the benefit over the next 2-3 years. The cap going up will just amplify that.
@nummytacos128
@nummytacos128 7 күн бұрын
Marner signs with LA :) Yes I'm coping so hard
@aaamm4010
@aaamm4010 7 күн бұрын
Let him go more cap space to build a better balanced team ,leafs always kissing ass with the so called core 4 enough is enough GM make a statement move for once
@timlee1794
@timlee1794 7 күн бұрын
In truly predictable Leaf fashion, they will do nothing of significance before the trade deadline, flame-out in the first round, and then sign Marner to more money than he is worth. "We're not here to sell jerseys".... suuuuuuure.
@KenHockey
@KenHockey 7 күн бұрын
MLSE is interested in only one thing, your money! MLSE wants Marner long term. They will find a way to make it happen.
@MrWastedtalent34
@MrWastedtalent34 7 күн бұрын
Could have swore I saw Frank Seravalli confirm these cap numbers as the official increases agreed upon by both the NHL and NHLPA so they should be the official increases for the next 3 seasons.
@kentnilsson465
@kentnilsson465 6 күн бұрын
In the bubble Pettersson was a PPG player, in the SHL he was the playoffs MVP his last year, so saying that he is a bad playoffs player is just wrong. Yes he wasnt good last spring but he was hurt, lets see before we judge, and I do think that he is still injured or at least suffers the effects of not being able to train properly
@Mike-bi7kb
@Mike-bi7kb 7 күн бұрын
Sure, play the core players even more then they are making now, chewing up the increase in the cap, leaving the rest of the players still making the minimum. Are they going to raise the minimum along with the cap?
@NyctNyct
@NyctNyct 6 күн бұрын
Nylander has taken way more discounts than Marner and he didn't grow up a Leafs fan. Marner isn't worth the crazy money and if this really is his dream team then prove it and take a discount. Marner says all sorts of things but his actions never prove it.
@billrowen9417
@billrowen9417 7 күн бұрын
14 million for a 11 playoff goals and being soft, perimeter player. No thanks. Doesn't put it all on the line when it matters. Wiser to go after Rantanen instead
@Sebastian-tm6ud
@Sebastian-tm6ud 7 күн бұрын
Trade Mitch, JT needs to take atleast a 50% discount, Mo can walk for all i care hes been useless, and than go for 2nd line wingers to fill the scoring lack
@philiplerner4683
@philiplerner4683 7 күн бұрын
i don’t see JT getting that low, i hope hes willing to take like a 3 yr 6-7M per deal
@philiplerner4683
@philiplerner4683 7 күн бұрын
i agree abt mitch tho, id like to see his money spent on a couple players at like 5-6M each.
@chrisristau686
@chrisristau686 7 күн бұрын
Can the Leafs keep both goalies now?
@christopherrego8706
@christopherrego8706 7 күн бұрын
Offer Nylander money (11.5 million) to Marner, if he doesn’t take it we’ll take two top 6 forwards for that money.
@NyctNyct
@NyctNyct 6 күн бұрын
Easy agree. Nylander took discounts to stay and performs way better in the playoffs. Marner hasn't done enough when it matters to be paid so much.
@nerinamak3298
@nerinamak3298 6 күн бұрын
The Leafs don't have the balls to trade Marner (even if he waives), nor do they have the guts to let him go in free agency, so just sign him now and stop the pretenses
@Channel_35mm
@Channel_35mm 6 күн бұрын
Good thing there’s no cap in the playoffs because Marner is nowhere to be found that time of year
@JNJ1014
@JNJ1014 6 күн бұрын
How are you guys so bad at math, 20% of $104MM is $20.8MM so call it $21MM. If McDavid is smart then he won't give the Oilers much more time to put a winning roster around him. If Edmonton acts logically, they'll pull a Colorado & trade him if he won't re-sign this off-season. If he decides to stay he should only re-sign for 2 more years to give the Oilers one last chance bc he'd be 31 at the end of the 2 year deal, at which point he'd have to choose either money or legacy, I.E. get a max deal from Edmonton or move to a contender.
@ryandebruys2762
@ryandebruys2762 4 күн бұрын
Wishful thinking. He's a generational player on a Canadian team.
@Nic_Garscum
@Nic_Garscum 3 күн бұрын
A leafs fan talking about contenders lol. The Oilers were just in game 7 of the cup final, the 4th round, somewhere the leafs have never been. McDavid is already playing for a contender, and he'll be signing there for 8 years, just like Draisaitl
@trippinout.
@trippinout. 7 күн бұрын
Marcus Pettersson is 6'4" and weighs less than Hughes. Allvin likes a long and lean Petey.
@RyanJones4444
@RyanJones4444 7 күн бұрын
Lol
@daltonm.strongman2397
@daltonm.strongman2397 7 күн бұрын
Mcdavid will sign 5 years 85 Million with the first year being 14 then 2nd 17.75 a year
@Nic_Garscum
@Nic_Garscum 3 күн бұрын
He's going to sign for 8 years in Edmonton. There is no way Draisaitl signs for 8 years unless he knows Mcdavid is doing the same. If you believe anything else is going to happen, you're delusional.
@samlos354
@samlos354 7 күн бұрын
How much money do you need!
@TWKozak-hs9bo
@TWKozak-hs9bo 5 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter what the salary cap is. Guaranteed, the Maple Leafs will overpay any talent.
@dwightbrown
@dwightbrown 7 күн бұрын
Pierre Dorion was a town fool on most things, but locking up those core players Tkachuk Stützle Sanderson was pure GOLD.
@codyhertzler2387
@codyhertzler2387 7 күн бұрын
They won nothing yet
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut 7 күн бұрын
Woah now, locking up guys who haven’t got them anywhere, let’s at least get to the playoffs before declaring anything GOLD..
@Joeblow12349
@Joeblow12349 7 күн бұрын
Oh come on Dangle , 20?
@enmac500
@enmac500 7 күн бұрын
3 years sounds great until you get Matt Cooke'd
@steadyAF
@steadyAF 7 күн бұрын
18 million 8 years
@samlos354
@samlos354 7 күн бұрын
Then I would not sign Marner for 14 million, 12.5 million 8 years of walk
@holymackenaw
@holymackenaw 5 күн бұрын
Wth? Why, why would you give this group another chance? They didnt come close to winning. Trade him. Dont give him a max contract.
@leafsnomore
@leafsnomore 6 күн бұрын
how many playoff series do we have to lose in the first round/how many years without a cup do we need to do before you realize mitch Marner IS NOT THE ANSWER! The BEST TEAM wins the cup.
@3tommygunns3
@3tommygunns3 6 күн бұрын
He shouldn't get anymore than Willy or Auston. who cares if the cap goes up thats such a stupid argument. I will be DONE with Marner if he let's his agent greed his way into a $13+ million contract.
@Nic_Garscum
@Nic_Garscum 3 күн бұрын
My god are Leafs fans delusional. McDavid is never going to play for your team, give it a rest. There is no way Draisaitl signs for 8 years unless he knows McDavid is going to do the same thing the next year. He's signing in Edmonton for 8 years. You can keep crying about it for the rest of the season and look dumb if you want, but by mid August, he'll have committed the remaining years of his career to Edmonton. As if he'd sign in Toronto where you literally lose in the 1st round every year while he's already playing on a contender. You leafs fans are a joke
@qualityentertainment2026
@qualityentertainment2026 5 күн бұрын
Steve you have to consider injuries when it comes to players wanting to sign for 8 years. I like you guys but you’ve never played sports in your life and it shows
@user-fx4qb3tg6n
@user-fx4qb3tg6n 7 күн бұрын
I think if Marner signs for say the duration of Matthews contract term Marner shouldn't be paid more than Matthews aav but if he signs for say 8 years he should be paid more than Matthews aav.
@keithck3720
@keithck3720 7 күн бұрын
Agreed. Matthews cap hit should be the max AAV for a shorter term contract. 8 years should be about Draisaitl AAV.
@ianleslie6971
@ianleslie6971 6 күн бұрын
Might be looking at a depression era landscape in a month. Don't start counting whatcha ain't got 🤔🙆‍♂️🤦
@samohtnoregreb9837
@samohtnoregreb9837 7 күн бұрын
Marner 16 million x8 🤡
@vancitycanucks
@vancitycanucks 7 күн бұрын
Marner will prob be a Canuck.
@mroxx9833
@mroxx9833 3 күн бұрын
Please leave Marner!!!!
@mattsmith6857
@mattsmith6857 7 күн бұрын
Leafs core 5 are the problem. They are talented sure. But they care more about making money than doing what it takes to win. They don’t have heart. They don’t have what it takes to win the big games. If they did have what it takes then they would have showed it already. I’m a leaf fan and wish Shanaplan wasn’t an idiot and didn’t hire Dubas. But they did and the players are to soft now and no heart. I know they won’t blow it up but this team will never win a cup. They blew it.
@samlos354
@samlos354 7 күн бұрын
I don’t want him. He is too small for the playoffs.
@willsk7068
@willsk7068 7 күн бұрын
If real fans were allowed in the lower bowl being loud, they would boo Mitch. He is the Trudau of hockey, nobody likes him and he doesnt know why.
@canadian1445
@canadian1445 3 күн бұрын
Those Habs are gonna be soooo darn good in a couple years
@gordtulk
@gordtulk 7 күн бұрын
Contracts should be percentage of the cap - not a dollar amount. That ends this discussion of inflation and the uncertainty it causes.
@chuckmaloney1298
@chuckmaloney1298 7 күн бұрын
The leafs should give all that new cap space to Marner forsure
@tankdiggs8974
@tankdiggs8974 7 күн бұрын
I rememebr when the whole league freaked out when Marcahnd signed for 6 mil Yeats ago. Fans are super short and sighted and comment not understanding. Not that I get it all. I don't
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 7 күн бұрын
So, if they're saying the money a player makes or should be making highly depends on what they do during the playoffs, then how does it work for Auston Matthews? Did HE score monster points and got the Leafs over the hump and got them on a deep run? Matthews was only ok and he still got his money...Lol
@JA-vb2or
@JA-vb2or 5 күн бұрын
What awards has Marner won? Does Marner play C? Matthew’s is the franchise player. That’s the difference between them. It’s pretty simple to understand.
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 5 күн бұрын
@@JA-vb2or Doesn't that mean it's more of Matthews' responsibility(because he's the franchise player) that the Leafs couldn't get over the hump for the past several years? Yet he still got paid... Regular season awards are fun to get and all, but ultimately it's all about playoff success...
@Gypsyalchemy333
@Gypsyalchemy333 7 күн бұрын
The beta soy boys of Toronto. No way Marner gets more than Mathews in Toronto.
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