The Night Comes Down Vocal Comparison (2011 Mix vs 2024 Mix)

[@nicoled1667]

I rarely comment but this!! This clearly shows the pitch correction, short, simple and well made video :]

[@the92project]

Pitch correcting Freddie’s vocals is a crime against humanity.

[@tankmchavocproductions6907]

Just a small correction: That’s the 2011 remaster, using the original 1973 stereo mix.

[@Pianist203]

That's very clear example on tuned vocals on 2024 version. Wings of Pegasus suggested that Freddie may have originally sung this to 2-3hz lower version in studio, so that's why it's a bit flat. If you raised original vocals as whole to standard A440 pitch and then do this comparison, there probably would not be such big dissonance bits. It would've been so much better if they did just that on new version and leave vocals in otherwise original form.

[@Section927]

So sad, the pitch being slightly off sounded infinitely better than this robotic ass version. I saw people claiming there was no pitch correction being done too, yet this is one of the most obvious changes I've seen in a while. There's a channel called Queen Live Rarities that actually does improved mixes that sound good.

[@K_Jailberg]

Jeez, I can't stand for 2024 version

[@Behindstage]

Fake voice goes with a fake video…a rare misstep from Queen I hope. This cannot be the future of the band.

[@trentoninnewjersey]

This isn’t the first time they’ve pitch corrected Freddie unfortunately

[@bol7]

No synthesizers!!

[@gianmatteomissiroli2795]

on the word "inside" for me it is not that the note is flat, but Freddie is bending the note to reach the correct pitch sliding up. It gives a lot more of feeling that a perfect note. I don't know if he lifted up the note hearing he was flat and correcting the note, or if he made it by purpose. But it is a clear example of how perfect tuning makes a song poorer.

[@stardorito]

for me i can hear that it is just slightly flat, and the program shows it as flat, however i do not mean this in a bad way. hell initially i didnt notice it until i listened to the 2024 release, realized something was wrong, and made the connection that freddie was pitch corrected. i was just focused on showing that freddie was pitch corrected by comparing, and regardless of freddie's intention we can see that objectively, he is slightly flat. again i didnt notice this at first, and it doesnt mean it sucks either. just wanted to focus on the fact that freddie was pitch corrected 😊

[@ultra-superior-yay-yeah]

At least I have the same opinion about that music video.

[@josuesolis-vo7id]

De hecho había notado Que en sus conciertos y remasterizados de los 70s, han hecho estas correcciones en la voz de Freddie Mercury, sí escuchamos los conciertos antiguos ( no remasterizados) podemos notar las pequeñas fallas vocales de Freddie Mercury al igual que algunos fallos de el audio en el concierto. Buen video , es muy interesante

[@whatafoolbelieeeeves]

"DAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZLING"‼️‼️‼️🤖🤖🤖🤖

[@mattiasorre1718]

good comparison

[@markwalsham7115]

The band don't care and nor do the majority of fans that this has happened, and if you criticize it, you are gaslighted for being "precious" or some form of "gatekeeper for perfect rock". What nonsense, All I ask for is originality and authenticity but when a machine is hitting notes that Freddie did not physically sing - there is a problem with both. A travesty.

[@trentoninnewjersey]

Many of the fans do care though

[@irvingaguilarqueen]

Muchas gracias 🫂☺️🌻 por este video ❤✨🥰👋🏽🌹😘😘eres increíble!🫂

[@simonrodgers8902]

Buy the 2024 Queen I album by all means, but don't get rid of any older versions you may have.

[@calichamber]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@FoxBoi69]

if they pitched the whole vocal track up a little bit to make most notes on pitch, it would have sounded so much better. or... you know. not mess with the vocals in the first place

[@AldoGomezOficial]

Unfortunately, the auto tune decisions comes more from artist's insecurities than producers/discographies standards, Roger's decision to edit his drums digitally was the proof of that

[@Walkzz_minh]

Deacy is probably dissapointed.

[@alanlambertchavez8929]

He approved the project lmao

Great job! Have you been looking also for time shifting? Someone claimed this. I will deny it until I see it with my own two eyes.

[@stardorito]

i just took a look at it now, (i dont think it needs a whole video though) anyways, i lined up both the 2011 and 2024 mixes of the song end to end (synced on the final guitar chord), and then i compared the starting time between both of them. i found that the 2024 mix was shorter, starting ~1.22 seconds after the 2011 mix now i dont know if this is good evidence for time shifting, nor do i know what else to look for so youll have to come to a conclusion there, sorry

@stardorito thanks! I am wondering about gridding, i.e. lining up individual notes to match exact lengths of quarter notes, eigth notes, et cetera. You would compare the timing of each individual notes. Place 2024 and 2011 on top of each other I guess, and your eyes would spot it.

[@stardorito]

just compared both versions (very roughly), i first tried setting a tempo of around 150 from 0:31 - 0:52 of the song (where the drums come in), and found that i could never get the entire part to line up with the tempo. i then stretched out the 2024 mix to be the roughly the same length as the 2011 mix, and they seem to line up fairly well, so i dont think they did anything time shifting. sorry for taking a while to respond!

[@paulatB2B]

When everything is lip-synched, autotuned and quantised, we may as well be hooked up to the Matrix.

[@Tityretupatulae]

Lighten up

[@paulatB2B]

Call out revisionism wherever it happens. 😊

[@chemia_nie_jest_nudna]

it sounds better but pitch correcting makes him just like others

[@michavandam]

1:07 You're using the word "key" where you're talking about a note (or a line).

[@stardorito]

yeah, my mistake. was probably thinking of piano keys and ended up using the wrong term.

[@realityhurtstoomuch8830]

Can't help but think Freddie would not be approving going through the back catalogue and pitch correcting everything! The human voice isn't perfect and should be left as it is, in fact I think when a singer goes under or over a pitch then tries to correct it live it makes it sound more human and emotive!

[@codrutcroitoru]

Correcting the voice is a standard thing in music industry. It is a 2024 mix so it is absolutely normal to correct everything in vocals,and also in any other instruments. I don't think these changes are bad at all, they are an improvement and Freddie would have liked them because he was a great musician.

[@stardorito]

just because its normal doesnt mean you have to do it to everything freddie is an amazing singer already, why pitch correct him at all? i mean, there are already fanmade mixes that undo the correction, and its literally fine, its not like the song suffers because freddie is slightly flat. like, its just such an unneeded change for an already talented singer, regardless of what industry standard is. to me its almost like theyre saying that freddies voice isnt good enough that it needs to be pitch corrected,. ok maybe im looking too hard into it and maybe freddie would like it, but unfortunately freddie is no longer here so no one will know. also the change is so noticeable it just sticks out. to me, it drains the human touch from the song by "fixing" freddie's vocals maybe the issue is that im a hardcore queen fan, so naturally im going to complain this stuff and sound like a purist snob. and of course, if youre fine with it, that's great too! im glad you can enjoy the new mixes. i mean, i dont mind the new drum sound but others hate it. luckily there are fan mixes around that i can listen to instead to get the best of both worlds. but i guess it just sets a bad precedent for new studio queen album releases. i mean, the idea of a pitch corrected bohemian rhapsody is horrifying (though they will probably never do that because the song is pretty much untouchable)

[@codrutcroitoru]

@@stardorito I know what you mean...but...my question is why isn't everyone upset for all the recent recordings of other great singers such as, let's say.., Ian Gillan, David Coverdale etc, where the pitch correction softwares are even more audible? Probably because those are new songs and they can't compare things. P.S. I wouldn't be that sure that they won't touch Bohemian Rhapsody. Anything is possible this days with the label records :))

[@stardorito]

@codrutcroitoru honestly I wouldn't even know why their fans wouldn't mind, especially since I haven't (unfortunately) listened to much of their songs But my armchair analysis (so don't take me too seriously) makes me think that their fans don't mind as they're glad that they're still around and singing, but also that their voices are no longer at their prime because they're old. If they autotuned vocals from older recordings then yeah I wouldn't even know what to say Again, queen fans (myself included) like to bitch about whatever because to us, freddie mercury is pretty much the best of the best (SUBJECTIVELY HOPEFULLY). Maybe the anger comes from the idea of pitch correcting freddie during his prime years. Perhaps if freddie was still alive, maybe fans would be more understanding and wouldn't mind pitch corrections if he sang in his 60's or 70's. Or idk maybe queen fans will keep complaining. That wouldn't surprise me either 😅

[@Anonyomus]

Well, I tell you why. Because adding pitch correction to this extent sounds like crap. And from musician's and singer's perspective, I'd find it disrespectful to edit my vocals to the point of sounding like Kanye West with autotune. It sounds cheap, lazy, unnatural and half-assed. Keeping vocals natural emphasizes the effort of the singer and keeps the integrity intact. I don't mind if some single pitches are corrected here and there (for example, you get otherwise a perfect take, but production wise one or two notes were a bit off or weak - so you correct them the amount that is needed). But not altering completely the vocals and how they sound as naturally as possible. In Freddie's case, pitch correcting was unnecessary as he was precise vocalist. Pushing his vocal lines through harsh melodyne just make them sound so plastic and amateurish, which pisses me off. Being industry standard doesn't mean abusing producing tools or taking shortcuts to mimic great art. Leave it as it is and let artists sound as they are and keep it honest.

[@tankmchavocproductions6907]

You have to be trolling