The Nikola Jokic Hate Has Gone Too Far

#PickaSide #NikolaJokic #377

[@bencrabtree5647]

Shaq picked legit the worst time to call Jokic and saying he shouldn’t have won MVP. That was full blown disrespect

[@PullinMyOwn]

The very first person to share commentary after the announcement, it was a real bad look for Shaq.

[@khalida02]

Yeah

[@gorcsauce696]

He's keeping it real cuz any other guy who is against a cinderal story like okc with young guy who guard average 30 2 way player lol look d rose won it just bc the underdog team and with Nash cuz no one expected it but now they actually give it to best player 😂

[@maxmcgloin]

Shaq just doesn't want to get replaced as the President of the big man club. Shaq was a great player, but Shaq also had great players on his team.

[@Querymonger]

​@@maxmcgloinimagine Jokic playing with young Kobe...woooo

[@mrvhz7]

Only mvp IN HISTORY to win a championship without an all star or all nba starter..

[@xWrongButtonx]

I think Hakeem also did it like that in '94. But still, a remarkable accomplishment.

[@baffourappiah3853]

YOU mean the only MVP at the time.

[@moneyball647]

And Hakeem and Dirk (Kidd was old and Jason Terry wasn't an all star already)

[@mrvhz7]

@@xWrongButtonx I think Thorpe made an all star team in 95 when they won the 1st ? I could be wrong

[@mrvhz7]

@@baffourappiah3853 yup thanks for the correction

[@rohangupte3545]

NBA discourse is the worst sports discourse out of all professional sports .

[@lifeofagony1535]

100% agree. In the last 4 years, every coach in the league has said he's unstoppable. They're all trying to figure out a way to just slow him

[@hypeesagee7895]

Facts. NBA is so terrible compared to what it used to be

[@MixonMMA]

It’s up there but ufc is another level of dumb

[@BuckFieri]

The NBA the most fans that don’t actually watch games

[@smirking8457]

you should see boxing

[@helbingstein8429]

The real face of Shaq, the inner hate on live TV.

[@Nunnayadambiness]

I advocate for giving Shaq the nickname "the Big Hater"

[@user-kn3de9li1u]

​@@Nunnayadambinessthe Big Lazy

[@thefriendlyfinger69]

Envy P

[@Nunnayadambiness]

@@thefriendlyfinger69 it took me a while, but I finally got it. Ha

[@hypeesagee7895]

MVP race wasn’t even close. Look at the votes.

[@somethingfishy1233]

They taking about the in season race niqqa

[@gorcsauce696]

If shai was white he would've won lol 😂. No one expected okc to be first seed and beat Denver 3 times plus he scored 30 and 2 way guard with college team Plus being white the media voter would gave shai extra brownie points 😂

[@JonJon-mn7zt]

@@gorcsauce696If Jokic were Black this would’ve been 4 IN A ROW b/c ignorant mofos like you and Kendrick Perkins wouldn’t be able to use the Race Card

[@TurntBucket]

​@@gorcsauce696what? The media dismisses white players more than it promotes them.

[@jakemitchell6578]

@@gorcsauce696the Nuggets go from a top 5 team to bottom 5 with Jokić off the the floor in net rating. No one else has even close to the impact he does.

[@zukusenryu]

Shaq is jealous. There have been quite a few high profile media guys who have been saying if Jokic wins another finals and finals MVP, he will start getting in the conversation of surpassing Shaq. Pick your preference.. most people probably pick Shaq.. but Jokic does stuff Shaq could never dream of.

[@playoffJimmy03]

And Shaq did stuff jokic can never dream of like winning 3 straight finals mvps and actually play defense

[@hypeesagee7895]

@@playoffJimmy03 Shaq had Kobe. Stop.

[@bencrabtree5647]

I definitely see Jokic passing Shaq by the end of his career. I can see the end of his career being a lot more productive. Shaq at the end of his career was a keg on legs

[@DenverGhost]

@@playoffJimmy03not from anywhere outside of the paint. Incredibly overrated defender. Jokic can shoot FTs, the 3, midrange. He can pass.. Shaq was great, but not very dynamic

[@thenotorious9709]

Jokic can make a free throw

[@nethbt]

Shaq deliberately disrespected Jokic just to hijack his spotlight and make publicity about himself, Rude to the highest level

[@oimelgoimel]

He just made himself a fool^^

[@AkagiRedSun]

He should be cut from TNT crew once they renew the license this offseason. He didn’t do much recently and has been grumpy towards other three hosts all season

[@TommyMartini657_jciridje]

And when he won chip Shaq was so proud. Weird af

[@nethbt]

@@AkagiRedSun they are about to lose their jobs because they are overpaid by TNT and TNT can't match the bidding offer from a rival network...Shaq deserves it for this reason alone...Chuck and Kenny I hope someone would catch them

[@nethbt]

@@oimelgoimel Shaqtin a Tool... 👍

[@DamjanVeljko]

MVP is more curse for Joker than reward....

[@user-kn3de9li1u]

💯

[@sherlockinsomniac]

If you’re a nuggets fan, you should be THANKING Shaq for waking up the sleeping giant. Jokic had been going through the motions all playoffs until shaq poked him.

[@user-majb4c2d0e]

He poked after the Nuggets won the third game and Jokic his Mvp so yeah no logic there

[@perrystuart8035]

@@user-majb4c2d0e what? game 3 was on friday and they announced on wednesday? You know how the days of the week work right?

[@youngmelo1841]

​@@user-majb4c2d0elmfao

[@SammySprinklers69]

Shaq's comments had zero affect on jokic and his game 3 play wasn't anything remarkable

[@khalida02]

@@user-majb4c2d0eno it was bf that he said that. But Jokic was woken after 2 consecutive losses, esp the 2nd game

[@jwiyual]

Gil Arenas made a take that Jokic needs Jamal Murray in order to win the MVP and its the worst take to date. Jokic can carry the nuggets without Jamal, but the Nuggets are nothing without Jokic.

[@euro51116]

Nuggets are nothing without Jokic but lbr Jokic was doing absolutely nothing without Jamal. He got swept and gentlemen swept when he had to carry the team on his own. Jokic is a great player on his own, but the difference maker is that hes a better playmaker which is why the nuggets as currently constructed are so good.

[@MJisGoat797]

Gils a joke. His exact words were 'if you need murray to get 1st, then why are we awarding you'....but the thing is SGA with similar stats as this year, last year missed the playoffs altogether. Chet comes back and plays all 82 games to TIE the Nuggets record. So by Gil's own logic he could replace Murray's name with Chet's.

[@student99bg]

Jokic won his first 2 MVPs without Jamal playing. Gilbert Arenas is trying to say the dumbest things possible

[@student99bg]

​@@euro51116 Jokic won his first 2 MVPs when Jamal Murray was injured. Gilbert Arena's take is so laughably wrong I can't believe anyone buys it. Do you not remember the events from 2-3 years ago? I guess all of you Gil fans don't, otherwise you would know that Jokic won his MVPs with the backcourt of Facundo Campazzo, Austin Rivers, Monte Morris and Will Barton. No Jamal Murray and no MPJ (both injured).

[@jaimesilva1990]

They discredit him but then forget that Michael Jordan couldn't carry his team without Scottie. It's a team game and the better team wins. Jordan was the best but then he couldn't get a chance at a title run without help. It's just the way basketball works, and I don't understand why they don't understand that.

[@sumakote]

Nikola jokic is mvp Shaq is just jealous because he didn't try hard when he was playing (he said so himself). Shaq feels insecure because he could've gotten more but he himself did work for it. Remember kobe.

[@AlexMartinez-ym7eu]

the joker literally lead the playoffs in points rebounds and assists last season and that’s not dominate?!?!😭😭😭

[@conchobar]

We are in the middle of the small ball era of the NBA, of course a competent Big man will dominate. The problem is when you look at Joker's modern day peers and its a joke compared to who Shaq competed against. Im convinced today's Chinese league Dwight Howard could defend Joker.

[@youngmelo1841]

Why can't Embiid dominate too then? Kat is just as skilled but he can't dominate like Jokic. ​@@conchobar

[@roscoeorginal]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@conchobaryou are saying this in hindsight with the context of what those players have accomplished in their careers. ANT, Giannis, Tatum, Shai, Luka, Tyrese and etc are all young and haven’t gotten far enough in their careers to properly rank them. Jokic is the only big man dominating the way he is, nobody’s doing it like him and nobody has done it since him. We have never seen a big man who can shoot the three, get to his spots effectively, have a high IQ to make the right calls 95% of the time, and the ability to pass the ball from anywhere on the court.

[@chancellor3122]

​@@youngmelo1841that comment sounded like something straight out of the mouth of Gilbert Arenas.

[@youngmelo1841]

@@chancellor3122 that doesn't answer my question

[@zrikizrikic9126]

Jokić did one thing for sure ladt 3-5 years..he made fans stand up vs Media bullshitism...doesnt matter you like him or whatever..but fans raise voice..

[@vangjohnny08]

Crazy how a small podcast have better takes tha a multi million dollar network like espn. Keep up the good work guys. Love the podcasts

[@snake0911]

That’s because they don’t have an agenda to say outlandish things to get clicks. It’s just straight to the point, no bs talk.

[@LLPOF]

Joker has three things going against him, 1) He is a foreigner 2) He is white 3) He is a center. The last one is particular to Shaq. He doesn't want to be ranked behind Joker when Joker retires. Joker does all the things Shaq could never do. He can dribble, pass, shoot mid-range, 3pts, and fts, win without all-time great all-star teammates. Shaq couldn't do any of those things and it kills his soul. Perkins, SA, etc are just racist idiots. N. Wright can't say anything except "yeah, but how does this relate to Lebron".

[@DanielSanchez-og4ox]

The biggest thing that Shaq could not do was steer clear of the buffet line.

[@borgsiam5416]

Absolutely right!

[@borgsiam5416]

Absolutely right. Most of the black players think basketball should only be limited to them, no other races should be better than them.

[@miltonadzic6698]

thanks guys for the nice words for mvp jokic cheers from serbia

[@DaYungSinChrg]

Shaq is an old, angry bird

[@tjones8778]

The disrespect to Jokic has to stop he’s legit the best player in the league right now

[@ericmartinez3422]

The Nuggets aren't done yet with the Timberwolves.

[@Handlebizzness1st]

MVP is a regular season award well deserved

[@17NateJohnson]

The Jokic disrespect is absurd.

[@blkdrtyolman]

Jokic is Shaq’s daddy…

[@jovanmrgodic4108]

Shaq is scared

[@snake0911]

Jokic is 1st player since 1984 to win mvp without a teammate who’s an all star, all nba team, or all defensive team.

[@jannaasistores5822]

Shaq's being threaten by theJoker on his all time ranking😉

[@daltonfarris]

I think Shaq has already been passed

[@marshupm]

NIkola Jokić! 💪🇷🇸 SERBIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! They crying because Nikola plays for his Denver team and people who loves them, to make them happy, not to kiss the golden trophy at the end!

[@23jrza]

That’s how a 3 time MVP and champions respond. This is now a series

[@TurntBucket]

The real problem is them acting like he shouldn't get the MVP. If you picked someone else, fine. That's totally fair, but they are acting like it's a robbery that Joker got it. That's insane and a terrible take.

[@sydguitar99]

Shaq doesn't like it when other big men have the chance to overcome him. He did the same thing with Dwight

[@MrMex44]

Joker was the most efficient player with the highest +\- in the league while scoring high, being on of the leading rebounders and the best passing big man. Shaq gets salty whenever he feels like a big man can be considered as good as he was. He got mad at Dwight Howard too. Also people have an issue with a “white” skinned person winning the award.

[@fredharvey2720]

I'm still pissed by the storm of uncalled blatant personal fouls in game 2. Tell me those refs weren't on the take.

[@Liquidmetal702]

Shaq fan for 40 years and im just completely disgusted by his actions lately…was he really that dominant?

[@Kirasfox]

He was, if he didn't stop working hard early on...then he could've been even MORE dominant while lasting longer and winning more

[@LunaticTheCat]

He's always been a sensative hater like this, lol

[@bryanmahoney3434]

As a post player there was nobody more dominant. There was nobody strong enough to defend him in the paint. He was as pure a power player there has ever been. However other Centers especially Jokic has a far more rounded skill set. Jokic is one of the few guys that is just as good as perimeter player as he is a post up player. He has the ability to adjust within games based on what the team needs. 1 half he will be a distributor and a other half he can shoot your lights out

[@RaptorsDot]

@@LunaticTheCatbut your opinion means something

[@LunaticTheCat]

@@RaptorsDot How do Shaq's nuts taste?

[@djordjelezajic8435]

How come nobody mentions that SGA has 6 assists ( career avg ) and Jokic 9?Isn't the point guard the one to create offensive and distribute the ball more than a center?Did anyone question Gobert being voted Defensive Player of The Year for the record tying fourth time, and if not, why not? Jokic currently makes Gobert look like a guy who should consider his next career move working for Walmart collecting carts in the parking lot.

[@SportsOnTheSide1]

Fun Fact: Luka had more injuries in his lineup than Jokic or SGA plus a mid season trade and still won 50 games

[@student99bg]

Passt, we can't have 2 white, non Americans leading the MVP race

[@heffermax]

You can think that SGA or Luka should've won it. I personally think Luka should have won it. But to disrespect Jokic like that and acting like he does not have a legitimate case is not okay. It makes it even worse that Jokic is so goddamn humble and wholesome.

[@roscoeorginal]

What makes it really interesting is that Jokic has said Luka deserved the MVP. I doubt Jokic doesn’t care for the MVP but I think he just has more important priorities other than an individual award because that’s not how he plays.

[@wm6549]

First time watching this channel. Pretty good commentary.

[@BirdLives7]

Shaq has alwyas felt threatened anytime a big man gets shine. This is the same guy who spent years picking on Dwight Howard. Dude is sensitive and petty.

[@HoodedAlchemy]

Mahomes was the first person to do it in the NFL since Kurt Warner in 1999 I think which is crazy

[@bourbonlegend4071]

Jokic needs to get another finals mvp this year and shut everyone up.

[@juju-vl7oj]

I hate to say it but Jokic is like Tim Duncan , no matter what he accomplished because he’s not marketable to a certain type of fan he’ll never quite get the type of praise he’s worthy of consistently from media. For example look at everything Duncan accomplished in his first 10 seasons 98-07 4 titles 4-0 3 finals mvps , 2 MVPs Best great teams in the playoffs, 03 one of the biggest carry jobs ever, wasn’t on a superteam. The 6 years he didn’t win 98 - Rookie 00 - out with injury in playoffs 01 and 02- faced prime Kobe and Shaq while his best teammate was a way past prime declining David Robinson 04 Would’ve likely beat the Lakers and went to another Finals if Fisher didn’t make a miracle shot with 0.4 seconds in game 5 06 Lost in game 7 overtime vs Dallas , had 41 points and 15rebounds Any team other player had a 10 year start to a career like that it would’ve been goat conversation, yet because Duncan wasn’t marketable he wasn’t even a top 5 most talked about player in the league. For someone like Jordan who was the most marketable player ever the media and fans were calling him the goat before he even had the first 3 peat because the way he played looked spectacular and passed the eye test and scoring is the only thing casuals really notice, while Jokic does alot of nuanced things on offense that are under appreciated.

[@dismantledbrain5910]

Also take into account that Shai had similar stats last year, and they were a play-in team. Obviously more goes into the seeding than just how well their best player plays, and in OKC's case this change mainly came from adding Chet. I wish you recorded this episode after Denver won game 3.

[@danijelhorvat5586]

Jokić is for me top 15-20 of All players,all time

[@23jrza]

The argument that they shouldn’t give Jok MVP cuz he doesn’t belong in the same tear as the other 3 time MVPs is ridiculous. His play speaks for itself. He has put himself in that year due to his consistency. We grade Jok on such a crazy curve now… dude could have have 20 points 14 rebounds and 9 assists in a game and it’s considered a bad game. His Standard. His expectations are insane. 95% of players in this league put up a statline like that it’s considered a phenomenal game. We have become numb to Jokers greatness. Less not forgot he really should’ve won last year. He won’t win another one due to voter fatigue and critics outrage. But he will continue to put up ridiculous numbers and lead his team to top 3 seeds and deep playoff runs.

[@23jrza]

Oh and had done all this WITHOUT ANOTHER ALLSTAR

[@justinadams159]

could you imagine how disrespected Shaq would be if Joker did that to him? We would never hear the end of it. He would just keep talking about how he was disrespected.

[@AbzAden]

That Shaq disrespect was all jokic needed to kick in to gear i mean if they type up the series tomorrow we got good series in hand and with that moment might win it in 6…

[@aquamarine56]

Thank you!

[@finaldestination5847]

People should start asking themselves why Kobe doesn´t wanted to play with Shaq anymore !!

[@ytmm11]

dudes are smart. I like this channel

[@basedboi3956]

Everyone that was shitting on Jokic after those first two games are looking straight up goofy now lmao

[@adarkwind4712]

I will never understand how 95% of the media, Podcaster included, will say, "Jokic is the best player in the league right now." Then in the same breath "no he's not the MVP it's not even close." Like, wtf if he's not even in the conversation, then none of those words mean anything

[@BuckFieri]

Board man gets paid shirt is one of the all time great shirts

[@maglatrendekspert3197]

Jokić can be a champion and MVP playing for any NBA team! Currently, no one else in the world is capable of that! Denver is a championship team only while Jokić is in it!

[@thomasfloyd3146]

It's been a long time since there has been a player with the basketball i.q of jokic.right now he's a top 15 player

[@raulmexb]

Speaking Truth!

[@bahuschaos3626]

Shaq shot himself in the leg with his statement, which speak more about Shaq's fear that he will be remembered second to Joker.

[@tex-do1wm]

Blatant disrespect

[@cyber6sapien]

There are more postseason awards now fellas. The Larry Bird and Magic Johnson trophies are awarded to the best player of each conference final. These awards didn't exist a few years ago.

[@ananijedzankic]

Buddy on the right said Jokic entered top 25. He's already top 15 and closer to 10th than 15th. What are we talking about??

[@lukacalov1988]

I d rly understand shaq if jokic had like 6/7 less wins or worse stats But literaly there is 0 arguments for sga over jokic except no 1 seed (same no of wins btw)

[@vandorenjackson5307]

Just like they hate saying last year was a gimmie

[@ChrisSmith-xm3pn]

I cant believe you never bring up Kobe Bryant. Kobe is top 3 Jordan, Kobe, Lebron. And they have a mvp for playoffs.

[@asyetundetermined]

“Hurr durr PAUSE 😂😂😂” -cornballs everywhere

[@GARRY3754]

It made Nuggets focus.

[@gloopdogg1145]

So world dont got love for straight underdogs...

[@ericmartinez3422]

Well the joker won't win next year. Even if he deserves it. Everyone said he needed to win a championship. He did. The joker didn't even celebrate the mvp.

[@Athraxes]

Right now I am discussing with someone that thinks Shai should have been a no brainer... I mean... you can argue Shai has a case but a no brainer? Thats just stupid... I look at advanced stats and see that Jokic is just amazing there... the counter argument was "if I believe metrics that tell me Jokic has a defensive impact I'm stupid" ...

[@gorcsauce696]

A college team was number 1 seed lead by 26 year old shai who play both side court average 30. Usually that wins underdog story. Or Luka he had the best stats this year a crazy season + 50 wins. Still don't get it 😂

[@Stefan0v1]

I can bet my house Shaq has seen that Jimmyhighroller's video on Jokic from last year when he said that Jokic had a better playoff performance than prime Shaq did in 2000..

[@Hreeehyer24]

shaq is a child scared because nikola is athreat to his legacy

[@eldiablo7450]

Bro everyone is talking about the 1 Seed and it mattered with Jokers case... He literally won every single year, besides the time he was the 1 seed... And people are talking about Shai like the Thunder are 15 games ahead of everyone else, but they literally have the same record

[@roscoeorginal]

From what I have seen, it’s more about the expectations of the teams rather than the seedings. Nuggets were expected to be the #1 seed but the Thunder made it to the #1 seed instead while being young. The Thunder were expected to have taken a leap, personally I saw at best 3rd seed because I really liked this team talent and how mature the players were for being so young.

[@David-mu8hn]

Shaq is so insecure my god.

[@practicaldriver]

Joker will surpass Shaq all time and Shaq is none too happy about it.

[@robarmstrong5404]

shaq is a big ball of insecurities. Crazy someone that big and strong needs to cope and manipulate shit to always protect his frail ego

[@jofieji5312]

The fact that shaq told him to his face is hilarious. Jokic already has close to the same legacy as shaq even though shaq is up 3 on championships. Kobe has a substantially larger legacy than shaq.

[@dmmagnifico]

they didnt even talked about the SHAQ disrespect. HOW on earth/

[@T1Oracle]

This is all about marketing. The NBA is a business and they need marketable champions to promote the brand. Jokic doesn't do that stuff, he just plays basketball and then goes home. The NBA wants more.

[@qbcomicaddict2590]

Jokic wins this year again imo he is top 5. I don’t care what era you played. I just look at skill and he is easily the most talented big ever. So that makes him probably 5 or 6 all time

[@stephen285]

HELLO MCFLY it wasn't close AT ALL, the voting was Joker 79, sga 15, Doncic 4 - NOT FFF'ING CLOSE AT ALL !!!!

[@percheuropean7175]

I really hope the nuggets win this twolves series just to silence the haters

[@kingbubba126]

Even if Jokic isn’t having the best post season, the dude is still putting up 26 15 9, absurd numbers still.

[@johnnyfelipe8260]

Shaq was wrong in that one. He can say his comment on other times, not with them guesting Jokic that time. But Shaq is always like this, always bitter when a Bigman is successful and threatens his legacy as a bigman

[@FUBAR1986]

So the NBA and the WNBA have the same image problems…….

[@jamescoldeyes4426]

It's either turn the Mvp to the best record of the year award or keep it real. Luka did things this year that nobody had done. Plain and simple. Sga nor Joker can accomplish what Luka did this year. Half Lukas team was out 25 plus games. Luka was robbed.

[@bojanknezevic5254]

i love u ppl :)

[@respond1984]

Can we just call it what it is?

[@mildol7271]

In my opinion. Seems Jokic won the majority if not all the advance metrics ❗️

[@arkinsam7733]

shaq has the right to his opinion but no right to disrespect people like that, face to face, on live tv, why? becoz he has more money than uncle shay shay? 😂

[@JovicaMilutinovic]

There is an explanation for Edwards not being in the MVP race. Simply, you have the best defensive player, the best 6 player in the team, plus KAT All star, Jokic doesn't have that. Put Doncic with Jokic and no one will be able to come close to them for the next 5 years.

[@ljutko7]

Broo they so hurt right now... They saying EMFROUD is best player, sga is clearly MVP, Jokić this Jokić that.... My god Jokić killing them all 😬🤣🤷

[@TrueProphit]

Shaq understands that if he wasn't white he'd have 1

[@71SanClare]

Jokic is mainly hated because he is white and not part of the American AAU basketball culture. Look at SAS, Arenas, Shaq, Wilbon, Nick Wright, Perkins, the Rhoden article and even Mark Jackson this year and last year. No other great players get disrespected like this by NBA media. Certain people are invested in non-basketball agendas. I guess it shouldn't surprise that this kind of bias exists but it is disappointing that TNT and ESPN are sanctioning and even promoting it.

[@dinglbarry1275]

The Bill Russel praise tends to rub me the wrong way, because almost everyone seems oblivious to the context. There were only 10 teams in the NBA during Bill Russels career (from 8 teams to 12 teams, averaged out throughout his career 10 teams).There weren't salary caps and the established Boston Celtics had a stacked team against mostly franchises just trying to get off the ground. And comparing players back then is apples and oranges. Pre 1970 basketball could and probably should be it's own category. But when people throw around Russels 11 rings and what not... the context really should be understood. I have no qualms commendeding him against the players of the era, but comparing him against the recent era's... it's too different and bolstering someone for having 11 rings against such limited competition with a stacked team is ridiculous.

[@giantsashavor7809]

They can always change the rules back to the ones being enforced in the 1970s if they want!

[@zacharyadams3422]

I think with bill Russel you have to remember,the era argument is the only reason he's not considered the goat by a lot of people.if people thought winning in the 60s was as valuable as winning in the 2000s then 11 rings and 5 MVPs would have him deep in goat discussions,people not considering him a goat canadite serves as proof they don't just take 11 rings at face value.

[@mbrum3230]

Mvp is for best player. Nothing to do with "value" relative to each team. Why do people keep saying that? Other yes 4 in a row for joker...i dont count embiids DEI award which is also not the criteria.

[@isaiahh4108]

No it’s value for that season which Jokic was but it doesn’t always go to the best player

[@TommyMartini657_jciridje]

Hey when ppl say players are better today wth man just look at all star game 1993 and compare to latest all star game. All of this today would get hurt after 1993 game.

[@user-jb6lp6bu7b]

I dont get why normal podcasters, people mainly seem to be with Jokic on this, but former players, tv and radio media all seem to be hating on Jokic. Fk the media and their stupid views

[@canadian0099]

Shaq is bitter cause he thinks he was shafted(which he wasn’t) and was lazy, disinterested player that wasted so much of his prime. That is all on HIM and his choices. He’s a manchild that has the maturity of an 8th grader.

[@plbarrozo]

The Joker, is the best big man center of all time, and the NBA can’t handle it because he isn’t black.

[@Sonofserbia]

he is paid to say that. controversy is tv

[@PrinceMahyan]

I agree with Shaq I don't think he should have won it all I do believe that MVP this year belong to SGA and they robbed to him because they want to make the nuggets look like this powerhouse when they just won their first championship last year and make them seem like they're unbeatable when they're not but everybody riding their nuts right now acting like they are He's not a dominant big man the NBA just made the game more cater to the way he plays now

[@angelusgnz5784]

Are we at the point in Nikola Jokic’s career where accountability is now “hate”? The Joker has officially arrived as a superstar in the NBA.

[@bbcpfghs]

Accountability and unproductive hating are two different things And wtf do you mean Joker has “officially arrived”? It’s literally his third MVP lmao

[@Crundmama]

"The Joker has officially arrived as a superstar in the NBA." The fuck you mean, he's been a superstar for like 4-5 years

[@bencrabtree5647]

Tf you talking about ? What kinda accountability does Joker need ?

[@Lumensensus]

They turning into LeBron fans now! It's hilarious 🤣🤣

[@notimportant3686]

honestly, shai isn't even in the mvp debate... it was between luka and jokic and everyone else, including shai, was in the NEXT echelon of performance

[@gorcsauce696]

Nash having 2 mvp is crazy if they was put the same nartive they did before shai would've won this year Derick rose would have no mvo lebron should've won but they ignore that now an actually give it to best player 😂