The Nintendo Switch 2 GPU: Nvidia T239 & Ampere

[@Roy-Vector3]

Its 12 RT cores, not 2. One article misreported this and then it spread like wildfire

[@Roy-Vector3]

Otherwise great video by the way, I should have said that in my first comment!!

[@FrameRated]

@@Roy-Vector3 Thank you for this! I am actually really happy to hear that! I am way more confident now RT will be more common on Switch2 titles in some form ☺️ and thank you for the compliment, friend! I will pin this so more people are aware 👍🏼

[@AshiodyneFX]

@@FrameRated keep in mind its 1 RT core per SM, having 2 RT cores total is physically impossible

[@Roy-Vector3]

@@FrameRated thanks pal :) and yes this bodes much better, and happens to fall better in line with the rumours from the Gamescom Matrix Awakens Switch 2 demo from 2023, people reported that RT was used on Switch 2 on that demo :)

[@maegnificant]

I hope they will just use these for dlss.​@@FrameRated

[@SuperFowlMouth]

The handheld mode of Switch 2 being 6x stronger than docked Switch 1 is insane enough!

[@YoupYoutube]

Its a serious ps4 competitor!

[@joemeyer6320]

@@YoupKZbin except ps4 isnt handheld

[@ChillsDrifting]

im buying 🎉 but .. ill wait a little bit since the switch had alot of defects at the beginning

[@dexterian477]

@@ChillsDrifting Understandable. I'm also going to wait a few months or so

[@wendellgreenidge3362]

Y’all are talking about this thing being as powerful as a ps4 which is 12 years old now and it being 6x stronger than the switch 1 which was already using an outdated chipset and being so excited about it is crazy

[@nit0134]

I feel like people don't realize how underpowered the Switch 1 actually is. Yet games like Tears of the Kingdom, Mario Odyssey, Luigi's Mansion, are BEAUTIFUL. TotK being absolutely massive as well. I'm so excited for what Nintendo will do with such a big improvement in hardware.

[@FrameRated]

My thoughts exactly! So many great looking first party titles that used every ounce of juice the S1 had, and even 3rd party devs got games I never thought could run on the S1 ported to it, like DOOM Eternal, No Mans Sky, The Witcher 3 etc. With a significant jump in pure horsepower and new tech like DLSS, I expect a generational leap in the regard of 1st party optimization and 3rd party ports that surprise us all with the S2.

[@banana4357]

No mention of Pikmin 4, or KATFL is absolutely insane! Because those two games are the most visually impressive Switch titles

[@mylittlepimo736]

Don’t forget that Breath of the Wild also runs on the Wii U!

[@EingefrorenesEisen]

Honestly, there are beautiful games on Switch and Tears of the Kingdom is not one of them.

[@andrewrodriguez7310]

Don't forget Alien Isolation. I can't believe how incredible it is. The graphics, surround sound and immersion are top notch. From what I gather it is surprisingly the best way to experience it, as PS4's version has horrible aliasing and the Xbox version suffers from aliasing and screen tearing. If you have yet to get this for Switch, please do, it's terrifyingly excellent.

[@OnderHassan]

The fact that graphics haven’t made much of a leap from the PS4 to the PS5, Nintendo has made a very smart decision by choosing to use modern tech while using graphical fidelity of last gen. It will allow developers to produce games at a decent budget and speed up development times.

[@nikkeli3942]

Last time Nintendo tried to compete with graphics, they released the Gamecube.. And I'm glad they learned from their mistake and now fully focus on making innovative products and fun games.

[@coaltrain2299]

@@nikkeli3942 The gamecube was an amazing console just not powerful enough

[@SWOTHDRA]

​@@coaltrain2299it was more powerfull the the ps2 and on par and sometimes better then the xbox

[@nikkeli3942]

@@coaltrain2299 It was powerful, but it didn't sell that well probably cause the PS2 had a dvd drive. Nintendo learned from their mistake and turned Wii into a success.

[@amajeet]

​@@coaltrain2299actually the gamecube was better graphics wise than Ps2. Ps2 was just hyped. The resident evil remake and 0 were made on ps2 and the games looked shoddy. Nintendo do not hype their machines graphically.

[@DomTrues]

Maybe we'll finally get a game from GameFreak that runs at least 30FPS (big ask)

[@FrameRated]

@@DomTrues lmao I really hope so! Maybe they will give us super duper Pokémon graphics we have never seen before… at 24 fps 😬

[@DomTrues]

@@FrameRated This may be a hot take, but I swear Scarlet and Violet would be my all time favorite Pokemon games if it wasn't for their shitty performance and bugs, because the gameplay and the story (when it functions) has been my favorite

[@FrameRated]

@@DomTrues I can see that and agree! If the game ran at 60 and removed the glitches and improved the graphics a lot, especially draw distance detail / far out pop-in for the Pokémon, I’d love it so much more! Even if it held 30 with all those upgrades, just consistently, I would love that still! Hopefully Nintendo do some sort of update for certain games to improve them 🙏🏼

[@fedesalvo99]

@@DomTrues Eh, I don't want to start a discussion about this, but Scarlet and Violet have huge problems beyond the technical side. Most of the gyms are bad, the city designs are disappointing, and the game world lacks level scaling. The Team Star auto-battles are the lowest point in the brand's history, Arven's backstory could have been told 100 times better but they didn't spend the time it deserved. They even managed to mess up the inspiration from Spain (especially when we look at the legendaries)! I liked the final parts of the main story and the DLCs, tho. That said, they're fun, probably the Pokemon games I've spent the most time on in a single run.

[@davidtitanium22]

​@@fedesalvo99last pokemon i played myself was black, but i watched streamers play violet and it is fun and i liked the ideas they're going for without having to experience firsthand the frustrating parts lol

[@robertwahlstrom]

Feels like most people prefer to have raytracing turned of whenever they have the choice. Also the next Xenoblade game will look insane with that amount of power.

[@FrameRated]

@@robertwahlstrom Yeah, especially with consoles, I will do the same. The only time I typically will keep RT on is if the mode allows and achieves 60 fps still. Since most games on consoles do RT at 30, or unstable 60. I stick with whatever mode gives me the best graphics with 60FPS. I really appreciate games that allow both (like Doom Eternal). Maybe we will get 60 fps with RT in some form with first party games thanks to Nintendo’s TLC

[@paulszki]

I mean, when I have "the choice", I'll turn it on. The issue really is, that most of the time it's not a real choice because it either tanks performance or it simply doesn't look better, just a bit ... different. But that's not really a knock against raytracing as a technology. I have an RTX 3090 and you better believe I'm turning on raytracing in modern titles. That said, raytracing acceleration hardware simply isn't necessary because it's just not good/cheap/feasible enough most the time anyway. The hardware that CAN run actual RT at pleasing fidelity is too pricey and for game tripple-a developers it's a burden to have to create their game with both RT and non-RT hardware in mind and the result is often lacking. And I think, Nintendo being Nintendo they'll just get every last drop of power our of their little console to make their games look beautiful. Nobody is looking at Super Mario Wonder saying "this looks ugly". So I'm sure Nintendo will USE the buzz-word "raytracing" in their presentations because that's what some consumers will respond to and maybe the occasional game will have raytraced shadows or raytraced reflections in some scenes, so they can put "raytraced graphics!" somewhere on the box. But I have no doubt that Nintendo will dazzle us graphically in other ways. They're not making a console with roughly ps4-pro level hardware (and shiny DLSS upscaling/anti-aliasing on top) and not deliver some incredible moments. Like, think of some of the most impressive games on the PS4. Horizon Forbidden West, God of War, Uncharted 4, Last of Us 2, all of which had breathtaking moments. RT simply isn't needed to deliver that.

[@NaughtyBear1337]

The RT Cores are a novelty and originally intended for Game Development.

[@OnderHassan]

Anyone who cares about those things will likely own a high-end PC, which is why Sony has literally shot themselves in the foot by targeting that demographic.

[@paulszki]

@ I don't think Sony, a corporate entity, can "literally" shoot themselves in the foot. That said, PS5 has been selling well enough. 70 million sold units after 4 years is pretty alright and basically on par with most consoles historically. No real foot shooting going on here. The issue of the current generation isn't hardware or PC competition, it's a lack of games. It's been 4 years and the amount of tripple-a "exclusive" single player games, that people were getting the console for, is a single digit number. The worst offender is Naughty Dog wasting time on a canceled live-service game and remakes/remasters of Uncharted/Last of Us. Games have become too big and too expensive to make and so, Microsoft and Sony are looking at other platforms to sell their games. Nintendo, at least with their first party titles had way less of a problem here, simply because their games never really aim to be these monolithic games like Assassin's Creed or ultra-cinematic Spider-Man 2. In that way the constraining hardware of the Switch may have been a blessing in disguise. Can't waste millions on assets and content, if your console is too weak to process it. Low-poly trees it is! That does make me wonder, whether they're going to run into scope-creep-troubles with the new Switch 2, simply because it can just do way more or if Nintendo is keenly aware of "better hardware, higher development costs" and are adressing this in their planing.

[@dentanau]

Switch 2 is a day one buy for me, and that will be a first. I got the original switch in 2019 and it has become my favorite console ever (started at 16 bit generation). With the back compat, there is no reason to wait for the upgrade in my opinion.

[@SWOTHDRA]

True

[@OnderHassan]

I have been a gamer since I was first introduced to the NES in 1988, which is a long time. The Switch is hands down, the best gaming device I've ever owned. I'm absolutely certain that the Switch 2 will follow the same trend.

[@manwithoutmercy]

I don’t buy hardware day1, not looking to be a Guinea pig. It not being oled as a turn off also

[@gferrol118]

I'm not gonna immediately buy it, as much as I want to. I'm gonna wait and see if they do themed ones. I would love to get an animal crossing switch 2, to replace my current animal crossing switch. And with how successful new horizons was, I feel like the next game will launch fairly early so shouldn't have to wait more than like a year

[@joaquinflores2741]

If you get the chance and live somewhere close, definitely try going to the switch 2 presentation events! then you will be able to tell first hand if the hardware has any issues or shortcomings you have to register first though, and they open again in 2 days, that's sometime in january 29

[@chrisw491]

A lot of folks online seem to scoff at the Nintendo switch 2s power. But a lot of them seem to forget what the ps4 was capable of. I remember playing games like final fantasy 15. The graphics in that game and the scope of it blew me away at the time. I have yet to get that same sense of awe with this new generation. The fact that switch will May be able to outperform that in HANDHELD mode is enough to sell me the device. We are starting to enter into the realm of diminishing returns with graphics. So I think switch 2 will be fine. And whatever Nintendo makes next (switch 3) will likely blur the lines further

[@FrameRated]

Yess! This 100%. Nintendo provides SO much TLC for their first party games and I was impressed with a lot of games and what they were able to achieve on the S1 hardware. The S2 is going to take that TLC and optimization to the next level and with DLSS and RT added, we are going to see some of the best graphical work out of Nintendo and I really think it's going to surprise a lot of people, especially later on in the generation.

[@Sousou-kq9uh]

I don’t know if you played it but back in 2020 when the last of part 2 came Out I was flabbergasted by the details and how the ps4 was turning this gorgeous game who is ultra graphic , for me it was the future of the video game at this time so I’m not scared of the switch 2 I’m So hyped

[@raven80wolfx2]

I think we need it to outperform the xbox series s. If it can do that, I think it will have its place. It will make third parties invested in optimizing games across the board on all platforms.

[@chrisgarrett6305]

@@raven80wolfx2the ps4 pro is near to the series s in power, so theoretically if Nintendo actually uses all the power of the chip, it should be similar.

[@chrisgarrett6305]

People forget that ps4 pro performance means GOW level graphics, Battlefield 2042 level of stuff going on, that’s NUTS for a system that you can also play anywhere.

[@danielpiccirillo6820]

I can easily do with a 720p screen in handheld. I rather would like to see higher framerates. It doesn't always have to be 30fps or 60fps. Even 40fps makes a noticable difference

[@wiremesh2]

I imagine a lot of games will render below 720p anyway and use DLSS to get up to 1080. As for 40fps, it only makes sense if the screen is VRR, or if it's 120hz. I imagine since they're concentrating on being able to switch between handheld and tv, 60hz will be the focus since most people have 60hz TVs, unfortunately.

[@onPlanett]

720p is a bit low , i tested steamdeck and i have a legion go and 1080P it's the sweet spot

[@baked7423]

1080p makes sense especially since that was the highest resolution on the switch and if handheld mode uses dock Switch presets on Switch 2 then they prob want it to be max resolution

[@danielpiccirillo6820]

@baked7423 sure. But if I can buy another 30 mins of battery life I'd opt for that. Unfortunately, knowing Nintendo, we won't get the choice. But maybe some 3rd party developers will implement a battery save mode in their games.

[@baked7423]

@@danielpiccirillo6820 well like above comments said, there’s a chance a lot of games will be upscaled instead of a native resolution. There’s also evidence that DLSS can save battery life so that might be what Nintendo intends

[@syferz]

8:25 it's 102GB/s when docked, and it's LPDDR5X just downclocked to LPDDR5 speeds, these clocks are found in upcoming Switch firmware 20.0.0, they are datamined but they are also not likely to be the final firmware of Switch 2, thus the clocks can change, though likely only upwards. GPU handheld clock 460MHz was a late edition to Switch's GPU profiles, even the 384MHz clock that was available at launch was not widely used over the 307MHz clock.

[@kninezbanks]

You cannot compare the calculation method of the pre-ampere gpu's with post-ampere gpus. Starting with ampere, each cuda core was capable of 2 threads so nvidia lied and doubled the number of cuda cores. 2080Ti had 4352 Shaders 3080 had 8704 Shaders Double the shaders, same clocks, yet only about 30 to 35% faster. That's because the 3080 is just a 2080Ti with Hyperthreading. The GPU on the switch 2 isn't 1536 shaders. It's 768 Shaders Cores, 1536 Shader Threads. It's basically hyperthreading/SMT for GPUs. It only adds about 30 to 35% more performance. Real calculation. Docked: 768 * 2 * 1007 Mhz = 2.06Tflops Real calculation. Handheld: 768 * 2 * 561 Mhz * 1.333 = 1.15 Tflops OG Switch. Docked: 256 * 2 * 768 Mhz = 0.393 Tflops OG Switch. Handheld: 256 * 2 * 460 Mhz = 0.235 Tflops Performance difference; Docked: 2.06/0.393 = 5.24 times faster Performance difference; Handheld: 1.15/0.235 = 4.9 times faster Overall, the new switch is about 5 times faster with four times the memory bandwidth (25.6 GB/s vs 102.4 GB/s) and 4 times the memory capacity (4GB vs 12GB). It isn't a powerhouse but with lots of optimization, it will suffice. It is PS4 level on a newer architecture, ray-tracing, DLSS, Mesh Shaders, More memory, faster emmc & faster SD Card speeds. The Switch Ran most PS3 Games well, but ran PS4 Games like crap. Expect Switch 2 to run PS4 games well but run PS5 games like crap. That's okay because most ps5 games are just ps4 games running at higher resolutions/framerates. I'm still buying one, only for indies, exclusives and sports games. The rest on my gaming pc.

[@davilkusgames]

Really? It's mind blowing, bro. I always thought why the hell Nvidia GPUs have 128 cores per SM, while AMD ones only 64.. and same gflops. People complain, that 50xx and 40xx series doesn't have major CUDA core count uplift, like 30xx had. But it hadn't, Nvidia lied back then. Again. I'm shocked.

[@kninezbanks]

​@davilkusgames Yeah, Nvidia lied. I think even AMD has started doing the same with their newer RDNA architectures. Even Mark Cerny in the PS5 Showcase called out the "Floplation" of recent GPUs, also pointed out by Digital foundry. Again, there's nothing wrong with comparing the "flops" of the 4070 to 5070. You just aren't meant to compare older traditional GPUs with newer ones. It would be like comparing Celsius to Fahrenheit. Both are temperature units, both mean something, only accurate when comparing other temperature of the same unit. Mark Cerny explains it in detail and how it doesn't equate to double the performance @ (7:08 to 9:06) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oomwqIuAqLKZf7M

[@pedromoronirumoaohexa7236]

According to leaks, handled mode has 1.71 TFLOps

[@kninezbanks]

​@ "According to leaks, handled mode has 1.71 TFLOps" That's false. They got that by calculating 1536 * 2 * 561 = 1723392 or around 1.72 Tflops Think of it like CPUs, they have something called Hyperthreading or SMT (AMD CPUS). You see a CPU say 8 Cores, 16 Threads. It means 8 Physical cores, each core has two threads. Hyperthreading only adds like 30-40% performance. Not double. Newer GPUs are capable of two threads per shader but it doesn't double performance. Nvidia chose to double the number of shaders since each physical shader was capable of two threads. This led to "flopflation". Mostly, you can't compare current flops with older flops. in FP32 Float (typical metric) 3080 had 29.77 Tflops 2080Ti had 13.45 Tflops 3080 should be 121% faster, more than twice the performance of the 2080Ti. Yet it was only 30 to 40% faster, at best 50% faster. If the leaks are true; The switch 2 doesn't have 1536 Shaders, it has 768 cores, 1536 threads. The real calculation is 768 * 2 * 561 * 1.333 = 1148640 or around 1.15Tflops On average, those extra threads increase performance by 33%. In summary, don't compare Ampere Flops to Maxwell flops directly to gauge performance increases.

[@GraveUypo]

nice, i learned something. i didn't know about this specific lie.

[@Alex_dlc]

I just hope Switch 2 can run Switch games with less frame drops. I’d love to play Zelda games for example, at a smooth 60fps.

[@zorromagico4534]

Oh my, you can play Botw at 60FPS, you need a modded switch

[@KidAL0]

That’s currently my biggest question with the console tbh. Of course it “can” - most of us already know about that enhanced BOTW demo Nintendo showed off behind closed doors - I’m just curious how far they’re actually gonna go with it across their catalog. Ideally we’ll see performance boosts comparable to Xbox’s latest consoles but I feel like there’s no way Nintendo doesn’t charge an extra price for something like that

[@scaryhobbit211]

A few things to add specifically in regards to DLSS: That feature is run on Tensor cores of which the Switch 2's T239 chip has 48 Tensor cores - which is a bit lower than PC Ampere, but is the first time it'll be used on a handheld format for gaming. However, DLSS is only one part of the Tensor cores' capabilities. In Switch 1, The TX1 Cuda cores are capable of offering a mixed precision option of rendering double-speed FP16 (0.388TF Portable, 0.786 Docked) instead of the standard FP32 (0.194TF Portable, 0.393 Docked). By switching between these two rendering modes, this is the secret ingredient which allowed Switch 1 to punch above it's weight, as the older AMD GPUs of the PS4 and Xbox One had no mixed precision at all. Those could only choose between 1x FP32 or 1x FP16. Today, the modern AMD chips in PS5 and Xbox Series X/S now support double-speed FP16, however Nvidia changed things up again starting with Ampere. The 1536 Cuda cores on Switch 2 have to choose between 1x FP32 or 1x FP16, but the Tensor cores can also be used for FP16 and other calculations using Concurrent Mixed Precision! So theoretically if a developer decided to not use DLSS at all (though in reality they can still assign part of the Tensor cores to DLSS), they can use both 1.7TF Portable/3.3TF Docked FP32 *AND* up to 1.7TF Portable/3.3TF Docked FP16 - nearly DOUBLING the Switch 2's output without DLSS!

[@w花b]

...nerd. And that's pretty cool.

[@Fusion05]

So 6.6Teraflop max? If so that's not bad at all. Although I hope a DLSS "lite" solution is going so you could still get a better image especially in portable. Do the RT cores offer the same or is that just RT

[@scaryhobbit211]

@@Fusion05 RT is seperate. T239 won't be able to do RT on the level of regular Nvidia GPUs, but it can still do a light amount of it to again close the gap between Switch 2 and PS5/Xbox. Offloading RT to its own type of core is more efficient than having to brute force RT using the Shader cores like the AMD consoles have to do. Important to note also about the 6.6 Tflops is that it's the max only if DLSS isn't used at all. If the dev wants to use DLSS, it will have to take up a portion of the Tensor cores, which I hear may be around 20% of the T cores. IMO worst case, if DLSS uses 50% of T cores, that would leave 4.95 TFlops max for raster. _But,_ in exchange DLSS makes it much easier to project to 4K without having to waste power brute forcing it, so developers may be able to fit _more_ graphical effects into their game, while running at a lower resolution, and have DLSS upcale the final picture to 4K.

[@Fusion05]

@@scaryhobbit211 I knew they were a specialized core just didn't know if it could be used elsewhere or to render DLSS itself. I hear it's actually got 12 RT cores instead of the alleged 2 so that'll definitely help a bit in RT scenarios. RT TOTK when?

[@scaryhobbit211]

@@Fusion05 Yeah, that 2 RT cores number is clearly false, lmao. Apparently it was a typo that the forum it was posted in decided to take as fact.

[@Dargos_L]

I really want to get the switch 2 on day one, BUT: 1. I don't have the money to pay with cash (we Brazilians love to pay with credit card and in installments) 2. Day one console is always a mess. So I will wait 2.5 years and buy the Switch 2 OLED Zelda version or something similar

[@FrameRated]

@@Dargos_L I am sure that will be a great deal when the time comes ☺️

[@davidtitanium22]

As a south east asian, third world country gang 🤝 It's not even officially releasing in my country so i have to buy from importers 😢

[@maniaque37]

better buy the ps6 or next xbox instead and wait for switch 3 or something

[@Dargos_L]

@@maniaque37 maybe it's better, but I don't want a ps6 or the next xbox

[@Dargos_L]

@@davidtitanium22 yeah, I know this feeling. My switch is second hand, Nintendo had abandoned Brazil and a new on gray-market was too expensive

[@FrameRated]

Thanks for watching :) TLDR; 8:41 - specs breakdown and comparison

[@Flaris]

I am hyped. The Switch made great use of what it had and I expect the same to happen here. But it might be even better since we are reaching a point where the visual gains between console generations are shrinking. The tech obviously is always getting stronger...but say PS4 to PS5 doesn't feel insanely huge. So a Switch 2 should be able to be even better supported by third parties this time. And Nintendo does understand that you need games! It's about as strong as expected, and I'm for it.

[@FrameRated]

That’s my thoughts exactly! We are going to get amazing looking first party games with this console and I’m so for it. Next gen Pokémon, Mario, Zelda, Pikmin. Can’t wait.

[@EmbassyNerdcore]

plus MS already promised Call of Duty will be coming, and there will be almost no games that won't be able to scale to appear on S2

[@mukuroikusaba7347]

Maybe only CPU intensive games won't be able to make it or capped at 30 from 60 like dragon's dogma 2 although that game runs more in the 40s and low 50s on PS5 2​@@EmbassyNerdcore

[@Wusyaname_]

I think that the biggest feature will be DLSS. With the newest Transformer model, upscaling will be SO MUCH BETTER. I think that 1080 up to 4k upscaling with DLSS will look a lot better especially with the huge raw performance upgrade too.

[@FrameRated]

Agreed

[@b.c.731]

Really i just got a switch about 5 months ago lol. Im absolutely satisfied with it. Ill probably wait a month or so to get the switch 2 just to see if it has any defects at the start. Im sure it will be awesome though.

[@davidtitanium22]

The backlog of games if you just got a switch is crazy long anyways, games like zelda botw and mario odyssey are timeless and a must play for any switch owners

[@FrameRated]

Yeahhh I really hoped Nintendo wouldn't try to soak last min sales before their new announcement, as people would have held off over Christmas and the end of last year for the S2, but I get it from a profit standpoint and shareholders all that jazz. The Switch 1 has some very incredible games that can't be played anywhere else, so there is the bright side of waiting by experiencing all those! Rumors are it won't be out til the Summer at the earliest, and if you wait out any launch issues thereafter, you should get over a year of great experiences with the Switch :)

[@w花b]

Just make sure to get your games in physical as much as you can.

[@Cute_Maxi]

Ampere is an interesting choice... this is probably because this has been in development for 3-4 years already but I am hoping it's a die shrunk and revised version of Ampere and not the OG 7nm Ampere which is likely not going to be all that power efficient.. However if its die shrunk to 6nm or even 5nm it should be substantially better for efficiency...

[@FrameRated]

Agreed! It looks like rumors lean towards 5nm, I will be disappointed otherwise

[@QuantumChrist]

5nm is the consensus of the experts

[@11Skill_Issues]

Nice breakdown. Earned you a new sub💯

[@FrameRated]

@@11Skill_Issues thank you friend ☺️ welcome to the fam!

[@CrowbarBallad]

This... this is good news. Hopefully, production started for 1080p OLED panels in the near future. I'll wait until then. If it's the same LCD panel as the Portal, it's gonna look great either way!

[@FrameRated]

I’m really hoping for a OLED model sooner rather than later too. I know it’s wishful thinking, but I was hoping they would launch day 1 with LCD for a cheaper option and OLED for those who want it

[@NationofTyros]

I have a question 🙋. What node do you think Nintendo will use when they mid gen make a switch 2 lite or an updated switch? 5nm or samsung 3nm. Maybe their 3nm will be cheaper and have better yields.

[@FrameRated]

I could see that! Especially if it takes them a few years to do it

[@Loundsify]

Nearly 10x increase in compute in handheld is insane.

[@Stinger2578]

I'm curious on a Doom: The Dark Ages port for Switch 2 as the minimum PC requirements - regarding CPU - surpass my build.

[@SaffronTheBat]

you also gotta remember this architecture is is likely much faster then the tegra x1, so I wouldnt be surprised to see more like a 12-18 times improvement over the 1st switch, and thats before dlss. I also 1536 cores is a lot the series s is only 1280

[@williamgrenville1203]

1 thing im a little disappointed with is the lack of proportional triggers still as that still means racing games will be terrible to play with the exception of mario kart 😢 its a shame considering the extra power the switch 2 has as we could have seen way better racing games

[@giornogiovanna6472]

Yea instead of a mouse function analog triggers would get me more hyped. Both would be best ofc

[@williamgrenville1203]

@giornogiovanna6472 yh 💯 both would be great especially as call of duty and other fps games will be on the switch 2 and mouse input for aiming is more accurate as far as most people are concerned me personally can't get the muscle memory built up for it other than that I hope at least that they release a separate joycon type with analog triggers that would give people a choice in what they prefer

[@giornogiovanna6472]

Some games might benefit from it not being analog, for faster button presses or make it easier to go right/left in UI elements like in Zelda(haven't played it in a while so im not 100% sure). The nature of Nintendo games are very different but it seems like we will get more availibility for third party games. The mouse functionality is still cool (especially for third party games), maybe they will make an RTS using it or something else that pops off. Nintendo did tons of crazy stuff in the past I hope they Switch it up, they seem to play it safe but you never know. Honestly I can't be hyped for a device which doesn't have any new games announced which I don't want to play on pc, except Mariokart has been teased in the trailer but they made one for almost every big console release so nobody is surprised.

[@chrisgarrett6305]

@@giornogiovanna6472that’s a very specific case though, I’d much rather have analogue triggers than instant clicks considering I’ve never had a problem with that on any other controller. It’s not a huge dealbreaker though, the only game I can think where it would really matter to most people is rocket league considering forza and gran tourismo are exclusives.

[@DumplingDave]

for reference, if the switch 2 uses 1080p on its screen it will have more ppi than an 8k 32 in monitor

[@FrameRated]

My mind is blown 😳

[@vogonp4287]

People sometimes don't understand that ppi is just as important as resolution.

[@thefbi3688]

I believe the ppi on both screens is equal at 275.36 ppi.

[@iamjoehill]

That's literally impossible​@@thefbi3688

[@superbikeaborad]

dumbest analogy i've heard would you rather game on your ppi dense iphone or a 4k tv hmmmmm

[@nooddles12]

1080p @ 60fps should be the floor of all games in 2025.

[@arkabasak5399]

60 fps yes. i dont need 1080p in handheld forsure.

[@Musa-xx6qe]

​@@arkabasak5399why not its great

[@iconicshade]

Excited for the Switch 2!

[@FrameRated]

Same 😬

[@VoodooRanja]

If they can revitalize the Witcher 3 and have it run at 30 fps with clearer graphics, it’ll probably become my preferred way to play that game.

[@FrameRated]

I could see them improving the res and base settings a bit and giving us 60 fps if these specs are concrete ☺️ especially if they use DLSS

[@VoodooRanja]

@ that’d be awesome! If that game runs that well, I’m hopeful that we’ll see RDR2 on the console.

[@Terron29]

Sounds amazing really. Given what nintendo have pulled off on switch I cant wait to see what they do with this. That said I hope nintendo focus more on fps. Breath of the wild, tears of the kingdom, and both links awakening remake and that new zelda echoes of wisdom game all have fps issues (especially those latter 2 which were made by grezo I believe)

[@FrameRated]

Agreed! I would love to see 60 FPS become more commonplace on Switch 2 titles

[@ryanguest5969]

My favourite implementation of ray tracing thus far was Minecraft. It was absolutely transformative to the experience and it was quite simplistic. Imagine a simple ray tracing solution in a Zelda dungeon with torch puzzles. This is how I imagine Nintendo using it, by being creative and making a little out of a lot.

[@AdamBond-mj7tg]

It is always impressive how Nintendo games always look much better than they should be able to look when looking at the hardware. Programmers must be really skilled.

[@FrameRated]

Exactly I feel the same way. The Switch 2 will be a generational leap as far as that’s concerned imo

[@vegettosonlab]

I'm hyped. Will be preordering it. I need a new Switch anyway. Mine is dying. I can see that the battery is swelling and causing the case to bend a little. Had the thing for 8 years. Time to move up.

[@FrameRated]

I can’t wait either! Likewise, mine has served well for the last 6 years for me and I am desperate for the upgrade and next Nintendo generation

[@vegettosonlab]

@@FrameRated I'm curious to see if it'll improve the performance of the Switch 1 games. Especially, with Breath of the Wild, because it still had weird FPS drop issues in certain areas.

[@BakedApple989]

I'm so excited for Switch 2. Imagine the Nintendo games! Lestago!!!!!!!

[@Robloxlover1213-d1m]

Thank you for making this, this is the most helpful video about the power of switch 2 that I’ve found 😁

[@FrameRated]

@Robloxlover1213-d1m that means a lot and I’m happy you found this video insightful ☺️

[@GlutenPlayz]

im hyped! i want to replay botw and totk at 60fps

[@FrameRated]

That would be amazing!

[@eg39701]

It's a bummer that the Switch 2 will likely have a 1080p screen in handheld. I would definitely prefer it to be something like a 800p like the steam deck. I would much rather prefer the games to run at the native res of the screen than be upscaled to 1080.

[@Emanuele-j2e]

He says that a switch 2 has the same performance as a ps4 in handheld so it will play at 1080 with no problems

[@Sherolox]

To be frank, it would be a bad look for Nintendo to not include a 1080p screen in 2025. Some tech enthusiasts would call even 1080p outdated and demand a 1440p+ screen.

[@mugiwaraluffy864]

We’re actually getting alot of benefit from the Xbox series S. all the third party developers are already making rendered down versions of the current get games, heck even gta 6 is coming to it. Since the switch 2 will have similar power to the series s, I wouldn’t count the possibility of gta 6 coming to the switch 2 off. The switch 2’s third party catalog will way larger than the switch 1 because of the series s

[@FrameRated]

I agree with this fully! I talked to a few folks on here about this too and use the Series S as my explanation for why I think GTA6 may come to S2 as well. Rockstar stated they have no concerns getting GTA 6 to run on Series S, so since series S is like 22%-ish away in raw graphics compute, as long as the CPU of the S2 and the memory bandwidth don’t hold back the ability for the game to be run from any unforeseen tech used in the game we don’t know about, I can see them having the ability to cut back graphics / making optimizations, targeting 30 fps and using aggressive DLSS settings to make it work if they need to!

[@VimopaCeyunis-wq2gi]

Can't wait for the switch 2 lite releases

[@kakashishinoda]

If they keep it at 1080p or do 720p with dlss games can look really good, even new games like doom dark ages.

[@FrameRated]

Agreed!

[@muhamed23458]

Great Video Thanks 👍🏻

[@FrameRated]

Thanks for watching :)

[@WarioSaysSo]

Most people don't buy Nintendo consoles for their graphics - People buy them for their games and the games unique quality. I'm no tech expert, but I will say like this; If the Switch 2 console has under the hood horse-powers that is on a PS4 PRO level- or better I'm all for it as that means the system will deliver enough great graphics, sound, picture quality etc-etc to build great games on! REMEMBER here, we also know that if we do not want the Switch 2 to jump-away in price by keeping it at $399 level AND be fully backward compatible with the OG Switch, then we cant run-away here with to high hardware demands (!).

[@procheathepitai]

I still own and play my original nintendo switch. Im looking forward to the switch 2!!

[@FrameRated]

Same here! I love it and can't wait.

[@Roensmusic]

i suppose it will be finally possible to play breath of the wild without frame drops?

[@FrameRated]

For sure I'd assume

[@Connector7th]

Ill buy one when prime 4 comes out

[@FrameRated]

Can’t wait to see what prime 4 looks like on Switch 2

[@Derian_De_Grey]

Hopefully they won't delay the transition to the new hardware for too long. RTX 3000 is good, of course. But I wouldn't want to be locked in its framework for 10 years. By the way, I am very happy and impressed with DLSS upscale 4 capabilities. It should be awesome in Switch. In portable mode, on a small screen it should look great. + 20-25% performance for portable is a big deal. With DLSS 4 the final fps of Switch 2 in the dock, is approaching PS4 pro / Series S. (3 Tflops * 1.2 = 3.6 Tflops) 3.6 Tflops Switch 2 vs 4 Tflops PS4 pro / Series S

[@james.b.mcgill]

How funny would it be if the custom CPU in the next Steam Deck was code named Kendrick?

[@FrameRated]

LOL

[@erockbrox8484]

I like how it says "NOT SWITCH 2 FOOTAGE" in the video. Like, you are showing the Switch 2 and talking about the Switch 2, so people automatically think the footage is also Switch 2.

[@FrameRated]

Lmao exactly, my last video used S1 footage and people were blasting me because it was "misleading", so I said jeez fine I will add a disclaimer lol.

[@onPlanett]

Dlss 4 on the switch 2 can be very good but if we have ther choice to dessable it

[@Thecor13]

Correction on the wii u Digital foundry ran tests on it back in the day and the wii u was over 2x faster than the ps3 and xbox360.

[@Lattrodon]

Wow I'm excited as hell if this is true. We are gonna get sooo many 3rd party ports with all that power.

[@FrameRated]

Agreed! I believe 3rd party support is going to be better here than the S1 and the S1 already impressed me enough.

[@paynelcasey]

The switch 2 sounds like it will be a mini monster compared to Switch 1. I can't wait to see a PS4 + power styled Nintendo game.

[@FrameRated]

My thoughts exactly ☺️

[@vlogmakinesi]

Great vid but sound is a bit too low

[@FrameRated]

Thanks for the feedback and compliment!

[@muhamed23458]

Witch DSSL will have the Switch 2 ? DSSL 2.0, DSSL 3.0, DSSL 3.5, DSSL 4.0 🤔 ?

[@FrameRated]

I think it will use 3, 3.5 OR 4 and not the older variants. 4 is a little questionable, as tests show the 20 and 30 series nvidia GPU's taking a larger hit in performance running DLSS 4 compared to 3.5, and Nintendo is all about efficient performance :)

[@muhamed23458]

@FrameRated ok thanks

[@ChrisBa303]

I feel like the Switch 2 has reached a sweetspot for performance. I wouldnt call call the jump from ps4 to ps5 night and day, but ps3 to ps4 was still really noticeable. I dont need 4k on my tv im totaly fine with an good looking 1080p image. And if the UI is still as light and gaming focused, i might even play more games on switch than on my xbox wich is littered with ads and gamepass games i would never touch.

[@FrameRated]

I agree with this fully!

[@Merik2013]

1080p in handheld mode is still better than my Steam Deck

[@obmotum]

In handheld Mode slightly more powerfull than the steam deck.

[@leighandliam]

no

[@psyience3213]

Seems sufficiently powered

[@picklerick7953]

Cant wait for the new zelda wind breaker game😮

[@ps3Tank11]

will they upscale older games like zelda or mario games ?

[@FrameRated]

They could allow devs to update them, but the key word is allow. It’s possible Nintendo doesn’t and we don’t get patches that improve anything with the new hardware except games that run poorly now running smooth with the added hardware capabilities

[@marlong1325]

Switch 2’s graphics will look great,third party offerings should be on par with current gen standards(and Nintendo games will be even beyond that),it’ll run any and every third party game,and the magic Nintendo is capable of getting out of their own hardware will making Switch 2 the number one console on the market!

[@FrameRated]

Agreed! Lets go S2!

[@فهد_الحربي]

If Nintendo releases a complete home console like xbox or ps5, it will completely crush them because Nintendo moved to ARM architecture years ago and deals with Nvidia. Many technologies will outperform them, but I don't expect them to do it because they want to keep handhelds and don't want to go back to releasing two devices

[@thelordofanime6150]

Do you think battery will be an issue with that amount of power? the steam deck barely last 2 hours with ps4 level of hardware. That my only concern so far.

[@FrameRated]

Based off the wattage information we have rn, I think it will be really competitive as far as battery is concerned, especially with them knocking a lot of specs down in handheld, GPU clock by half for example, so it seems Nintendo is focused on giving you as much balance as possible, but does have bias towards battery life and low power consumption

[@STB-1-of-1]

Better to have low expectations and be surprised than high expectations and be disappointed. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JonathanStanley]

Crazy to think in 4~7 years a Switch 3 will be in the 20 to 40 teraflops range on Nvidia Blackwell or later arch...

[@FrameRated]

I’m ready for 8K Mario 😬

[@OnderHassan]

Exactly. Playing games with advanced ray tracing at high resolution in a small form factor that draws less power will be insane.

[@mukuroikusaba7347]

I believe amd put out a set of integrated graphics cards on the level of desktop GPUs in laptops this year but their a little pricier than their desktop variant in the end but still have the raw power of like a rx 7600 in a laptop no drawbacks is insane. Honestly might spell the end of dedicated GPUs in small form facts like laptops or game consoles

[@abdcefgh2]

FOUR AHHAAHHHAHAHHAHA

[@davilkusgames]

*8 years.

[@samuelm4021]

With this extra power you just know the next Zelda will have some insane gimmick. Terrain manipulation, volumetric liquids, gasses?

[@FrameRated]

I didn't even think about that! That is totally possible now and when I think about it, I can imagine a lot of first party titles adding things like that here in there or who knows what

[@DanielZye]

PS4 power with DLSS4 quality in a handheld is huge

[@FrameRated]

Agreed ☺️

[@seekingsolutions7078]

The switch 1 was definitely leagues above the 360 and ps3. Most of Nintendo’s games ran at or close to 1080p with many, many of their titles running at 60fps, whereas most games on the 360 and ps3 ran at or below 720p. Plus, the switch 1 is compatible with most modern engines like the RE engine, Unity. Azura and UE. For example, zombie army 4 runs at 1080p, 30fps on ps4 and on the switch, well, it runs mostly at 1080p, 30fps. Not bad considering the slower cpu and less ram to pull from!

[@dartcolors1073]

I honestly might get a switch 2 day 1 mainly so i can use my switch as an emulator instead. This rectangle only looks better and better the closer we get to that direct date!

[@FrameRated]

That’s a good idea!

[@shawnregina9110]

Anyone who was expecting more than a PS4 level performance was just being irrational. Now I do hope the price point fits the tech…

[@zephyrdrake_]

I'ma just wait and see if they keep physical game collection a thing. Because if they are lacking in that department the switch 2 is not gonna be for me.

[@main_tak_becus6689]

And $70 for games. I'm excited for third party games and backward compatibilty feature. I hope Switch 2 will enhance them. 720p/60fps on handheld and 3 hours minimum gameplay will be great.

[@FrameRated]

I am hoping for the same! Updates for games that really need enhancement would make me so happy lol

[@Mae-zr2mm]

so its like a ps4 power, but with dlss and raytracing. thats more than enough for most modern games, bet

[@FrameRated]

Agreed. Especially in handheld mode. The memory bandwidth is the Achilles heel for the Switch 2 GPU, but having the raster of a PS4 in your hands on the go, and then doubling that when you hook it up to your TV has me very excited paired with Nintendo first party games 😍

[@Mae-zr2mm]

@@FrameRated plus itll have dlss so it should be able to handle ps5 level if its rendered lower and scaled up. work of beauty

[@Beadlesstorh]

I would like to see it compared with steam deck and such too

[@FrameRated]

That's a good idea for a video! The simple answer is the S2 is faster in handheld mode and much more so when docked, but it can get really deep because the different instruction set, architecture etc.

[@corey2232]

I'm wondering if Nintendo is even going to use DLSS at all in their own games, as they typically ignore any kind of AA whatsoever (no idea why). And judging by the Mario Kart footage, they're not using DLSS at all.

[@FrameRated]

I could see them putting so much TLC in, especially early on in the gen, where they don’t use it much too! I feel like DLSS is the key for 3rd party ports and longevity

[@corey2232]

@FrameRated Agreed, it'll be a tool most all 3rd parties will use. My hope is that Switch 2 having DLSS will finally get Japanese devs to start using DLSS, as even in their PC ports it's almost never supported. But this could get them on board & we start getting more performant Switch 2 & PC ports using DLSS.

[@mattmatti3525]

With DLSS upscaling, this will make it a lot closer to ps4 pro for sure

[@FrameRated]

True!

[@K.A.R.Gaming]

Super excited for this console, it's often downplayed and there's a lot of forced hate, but people don't realize what Nintendo has done in the past and what they're capable of. They act like PS4 graphics in 2024 is a bad thing, but the PS4 had amazing graphics. This is going to be one of the greatest consoles of all time.

[@FrameRated]

Exactly. I can't wait to see what is done with the Switch 2!

[@Fredrik7le]

Dont need a steam deck. Im getting this!

[@FrameRated]

Yeah I can't skip out on the S2 day one either!

[@mylittlepimo736]

I am really optimistic for the horsepower of the Switch 2. GPU wise, it’s close to a PS4 Pro…but has DLSS. It’s quite possible we see it running near PS5-level games, just in a quarter the actual resolution, then DLSS’d up. That makes me very optimistic for ports. I’d be really curious to see more CPU comparisons. I feel like ARM chips have had way more gains year over year than x86 and wonder how it compares on the PS4/PS5 scale CPU wise.

[@ScubaM64twitch]

All I know is there is going to be a Mairokart 9 🤩

[@FrameRated]

Yess can't wait for Mario Kart 9!!

[@Kirito0609]

but can i just play my switch 1 version of ToTK with higher framerate and higher resoltion on day 1? i waited for the switch 2 to finally play it

[@B.Ch3rry]

SMH… -nVidia Shield owners

[@deltadom33]

so 1500 cuda cores is equivlant to a 3050 laptop version

[@FrameRated]

Yep! As Rich from digital foundry said, the RTX 2050 is a cut back RTX 3050, just with the 20-series nomenclature (for whatever reason); the Switch 2 GPU is then basically a lobotomized RTX 2050 with 25%-ish less CUDA cores.

[@theAstarrr]

If this is true that will be insane. It's a pipe dream right now. I'm only expecting a slightly more powerful Switch.

[@Twisty-cuber]

I risently wanted to buy a switch is it wort it for me to buy the switch 2 insted

[@FrameRated]

If the price is the same (unlikely) or even just $100 more at $399.99, I would say just get a switch 2. The performance increase, in theory, on current games that have low FPS on switch 1 will run better on Switch 2. So games with unstable 30 or 60 will should stay locked now. On top of that, the Switch 2 games should have a lot more to them than what is possible on the Switch 1. If we are really spoiled, Nintendo will update some games out on switch now that have other improvements, but that’s me just being hopeful!

[@Galo994]

Get a Switch 2, you will be able to play Switch 1 games on it too.

[@jirah92]

I'm still hoping for a GPU in the dock for even more horsepower when docked

[@FrameRated]

I have heard rumors about this as well, just not reliable or substantial ones that made me consider popping it into this video. The back of the dock from leaks does show more vents and a larger area where a fan is theorized to be, so either there is a dock-integrated external GPU or the internal GPU increase its performance so much more in docked mode that it needs the extra cooling. I am very open to both if the price stays at or under $400 and provides a substantial performance increase :)

[@CoastinDamian]

An rtx 30 series gpu is already insane enough

[@leighandliam]

It's a mobile chip

[@Oceanandskylinevidss]

​@@leighandliam So what

[@QuantumChrist]

​@@leighandliam, mobile chip? Wrong T239 is based on chip used for Automated cars and Robotics 😆 It doesn't even use for Gaming at all, and that's why it was special since it will be on switch 2, same architecture, special purpose.

[@OtherMomo]

Ps4 standard innhandheld andnps4 pro when docked? I cant wait for all the games than can be pkrted to switch 2, like elden ring, armored core, ghost of tsushima, etcetera

[@Zeriel00]

How does it compare to the Steam deck? because if its more expensive than the SD but costs more then that's a deal breaker.

[@FrameRated]

The Steam Deck 1 is slightly behind in raw raster and can't be specifically optimized for the same way as the S2, higher GB and OLED models will likely cost more than the S2 as well, and the S2 has hardware to support AI reconstruction (DLSS) to improve performance without much of a hit to image quality in doing so. In contrast, the Steam Deck uses FSR, which does upscaling at a software level. It does the job, but isn't as good as DLSS and hardware-based solutions as far as image quality and performance goes. So it's a trade off - being that the Steam Deck has the option of being a full fledged windows PC.

[@doclouis4236]

But how much VRAM will it have?

[@FrameRated]

The system has 12GB of LPDDR5 RAM, it's unclear how much is available for games and what's reserved for the OS at this time. If it's anything like the S1 and they use a lightweight and efficient OS, I would be very comfortable to say that 10GB should be available for games, if not a little more, and that includes VRAM.

[@doclouis4236]

@@FrameRated Sounds interesting. Do you think Rockstar will support the console like with porting GTA 6 to Switch 2 in the future?

[@FrameRated]

@@doclouis4236 This is an interesting thought I have been thinking a lot about! Rockstar has said that they have no concerns getting GTA 6 run on the Xbox Series S during all the Series S hate over the last year. Since the Switch 2 is about 22% slower than the Series S in pure theoretical raster (docked), but also has DLSS capabilities, I think the Switch 2 should be able to handle GTA 6 with cutback graphics and lower native render than other games that is then tidied up with DLSS and targets 30 FPS. The few concerns I have over this are 1. The memory bandwidth of the Switch 2 is more similar to a Xbox One from 2013 and we still don't know exactly how powerful the CPU is compared to the Series S, which has a powerful CPU compared to it's GPU. if we are going by clock speeds,. the Series S has 8 cores at 3.4Ghz, The Switch 2 is rumored to have 8 cores too, but at just over 1 GHz. Comparing the IPC performance of an Nvidia and AMD CPU isn't possible until we have these in our hands and can do more testing, but can give us an idea. Even with a very advanced CPU architecture, the CPU is likely to be very limited compared to the other consoles. That all said, as long as the CPU and memory bandwidth don't bottleneck the S2 in any unforeseen ways that can't be worked around no matter what the resolution, settings cutback or FPS target is on really advanced games, I am hoping to eventually see GTA 6 come over to the S2.

[@doclouis4236]

@@FrameRated Okay, cool.

[@Grandiosodoll]

​@FrameRated after what they did to run GTA 5 on the Xbox 360 and PS3, I wouldn't be surprised if they made the Switch 2 run GTA 6

[@Gianluca_GMS]

would this be the first high end nintendo console ever? bc even the switch was underpowered at launch.

[@FrameRated]

The S2 is still underpowered at launched when compared to a lot of things, sadly, but the Switch is sort of in its own league. Really due to it being Nintendo and their first party entertainment as well as their seamless portable-to-TV home console hybrid that contains said first party entertainment, so when compared to the S1, the S2 is a massive generational leap ahead with a lot more resources at its disposal and pure compute power with additional tech to enhance that further such as DLS, but when compared to other current gen home consoles, it falls very short (save for Series S). For many portable gaming handheld options, it is a bit behind as well, but will likely cost a good deal less when compared + there isn’t as much of a delta performance wise there compared to the premium consoles from Sony/Microsoft and gaming desktop/laptops. I am excited to see what they can do with this hardware and their talent on game creation ☺️

[@shanestevick679]

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the Nintendo switch 2 console soon. The Nintendo switch 2 is a day one buy for me. I'm not discouraged about the Nintendo switch 2 is not going to be as powerful as a ps5 console and a Xbox series X console and the Nintendo switch 2 will not have an Oled screen. I'm fine with it. I'm sure Nintendo will do a ps5 and Xbox series x consoles powered with Oled screen Nintendo switch 2 console or Nintendo switch 3 console down the road.

[@FrameRated]

Same here. I can’t wait for it and knowing what they could do with the Switch 1 and its limited power has me even more excited!

[@RedKnight26]

I just feel like nintendo switch 2 is going to pleaseantly suprise us especially with Nintendo having a 10 year contract for COD Games. Are they the most visually demanding imaginative games? No not really. Are they still graphically impressive and detail wise very advanced? Yeah. And that tells me that if future COD games are on there it gives me hope for games Like GTA 6

[@FrameRated]

I agree! I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised and we will get likewise "impossible ports" (as digital foundry would call it) on the Switch 2 since they we able to achieve a lot with the S1 :)

[@marverickbin]

DLSS 4 brough a big leap on 3.x in its transformer model. It matches the native res with significant less artifacts. However, it is slower. You lose like 5% fps when in super resolution mode, abd like 40% in ray-tracing mode. If I would bet, demanding games would target 540p rendering, with DLSS to 1080p on handheld, with ray-tracing off. Docked, 720 to 1440p, with ray-tracing, or even 1080p to 4k with ray-tracing off.

[@evenAndre]

I feel we will finally have pretty much unrestrained capabilities on Switch 2 to make any game world and gameplay idea come to life. Can't wait!

[@FrameRated]

Yess! Especially with how much TLC Nintendo provided their first party games. So many take every ounce of juice the Switch had and they use creative ways to push this further. Having this much more horse power and hardware spec with new technologies like DLSS and RT have me so hype to see what they can do! Nintendo blew the pants off me when I saw Doom Eternal was coming to switch and looked really good still (even if at 30fps), I really can only imagine with the Switch 2 😍

[@Randomoriginality]

Getting closer to PS4 Pro and Series S ... And DLSS may close the gap.

[@FrameRated]

Exactly :) The only Achilles heel of the S2 GPU is the memory bandwidth, much better than S1, but still much slower than the PS4 and is akin to Xbox One, but that can be negated with lower res and textures (which can be reverse negated again by DLSS)

[@TheSnoopyclone]

Whatever it is, it will have dlss to get those extra frames.

[@lachlanB323]

DLSS is kinda useless unless they're targeting 1440p. Frame gen seems more useful to me. Get the game running at 60fps natively and use frame gen to get 120fps. Other then that frame gen is useless because it has massive artefact issues when running below 60fps. DLSS to get it to 1080p is silly. Not worth it. 1080p 60fps in handheld and 1440p 120fps DLSS Frame gen docked seems good to me or 1440p DLSS 60fps no frame gen as an option and switched to automatically on TV's that don't support it. Also 1080p 60fps native for 1080p Tv's/Monitors. Also 1080p 120fps with frame gen on 1080p monitors lmao.

[@DidoInFlames]

Nintendo will optimize their games very good that's enough for me.