The No.1 Thing Everybody HATES About Modern Tudor Watches...

[@ID-Guy]

True Patina’s Black Bay Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3iUequmer59oq8 "Everybody" is of course a generalisation here, but I felt that "Most People" didn't have the same punch for the title, y'know? What are your thoughts on Tudor’s Infamous Snowflake Hand? 🥃

[@thats-watch-were-talking-about]

The snowflake hand has stopped me buying a BB or Pelagos...but this video has made me think...aaarrhhh...you broke me!!!

[@sidelladan3792]

What happened to your 3 hour videos, those where great 😢

[@janncfl]

Maybe there is a sound compromise which can be arrived at: The Pelagos series remains unchanged with only triangles and rectangles on dials and hands and the Black Bay line with the dials also unchanged, but sword hands (like the Rolex Submariner Ref. 5517 and the Ginault Ocean Rover / Ocean Rover II) instead of the snowflake designs. For the BB GMT, I suggest a 24-hour hand like the Rolex GMT-Master (II), but with the triangle a bit longer to make it more distinguishable from the dots on the dial in low light conditions. It would still fit the Tudor heritage, but easily be distinguishable from Rolex and at the same time look so much better - at least for my personal taste.

[@FadeToBlack2181]

I personally love the snowflake hand. I think its one of the things that makes a Tudor a Tudor.

[@salty5402]

The snowflake is part of the brand identity and a distinguisher. It immedietely identifies the watch's brand as Tudor- and that is an invaluable in marketing. I like it - and like many probably find it a aesthetic selling point.

[@EnglishTMTB]

I agree and disagree... It's absolutely a brand identifier that immediately screams "Tudor". But that's a good thing if it's generally liked - when it's divisive, I guess the question is whether it distinguishes the watch enough to make the fans buy and generate brand exposure as a talking point (as we're doing here!)... Or whether it puts off enough potential buyers that it's a net negative. Obviously the brand is doing fine, so if it IS a net negative, they're doing enough right to offset it. I can't help but feel it looks a bit clunky... Everything else on a Black Bay is bang on point for me, but that almost makes the clunkiness of the hour hand more eyecatching in a disappointing way. Watching a few vids like this to see if I can be converted to it, but it's just not quite happening.

[@ST4RF4CE88]

i love the snowflake hand

[@Rafa-yw8nu]

I especially love the kinda oversized snowflake hand on the now discontinued BB 36. The new BB 36 just doesn’t feel right

[@SuperPussyFinger]

We all know it’s ugly, but we pretend that we love it, because it’s Tudor.

[@thomasmoll8822]

Same. And a 100x more aesthetic than the awful Mercedes-hands…

[@cliffwheeler7357]

I dislike the snowflake hour hand intensely. It ruins an otherwise attractive dial.

[@Soul_of_a_Robot]

​@@cliffwheeler7357that's just, uh... Your opinion, man

[@MichaelSmith-su9cq]

I always thought the snowflake hand looked like a snake swallowing a Lego, but it works on the Pelagos.

[@ID-Guy]

Ah man! Just reminded me of that Snake game on Nokia phones... I'm sure the animation looked like that? Brilliant 😆

[@ViolinistWilliam]

You are totally right about the snowflake needing the boxed markers as seen in the Pelagos. If you’re gonna go quirky, you gotta unify it design-wise across the watch. The Pelagos achieves that in large part thanks to the markers.

[@NinjaNovice]

The Pelegos square indicators do not work for me. The snowflake hand is fine balanced by all the circular shapes inherent to a wrist watch, including the indicators on the black bay(s). But all those square indicators on the Pelegos look forced. As the snowflake hand moves around it creates strange and unpleasing angles against the Pelegos indicators.

[@danerik82]

Agree the FXD is the perfect implementation of the snowflake hand.

[@adrianhargreaves2854]

The snowflake is awesome and I love tudors for being true to them. People only moan because they want Mercedes hand sets. Merry Christmas pal 👍

[@ID-Guy]

Merry Christmas to you Adrian and thank you! Really interesting when we think about Function vs Aesthetics and where they meet 🥃

[@AnaInTh3Sky]

Your ability to understand and articulate nuance and identity is second to none.

[@noktilux4052]

Articulate identity?

[@Thomas_Burnett]

It’s true, the Snowflake handset is at home on the Pelagos. The matching squared indices go perfectly with the handset. Saying that, I’m wearing my P01 right now and with round indices even, the Snowflake handset just looks beautiful. It’s SO Tudor. Their signature. I love them! The only Watch they were a bit out of place on was the Alinghi Red Bull FXD Chronograph that I tried on. They still looked great on the Watch but, cluttered the reading of the Chronographs sub registers at times. I guess Mercedes hands do the same on the small dial of a Daytona though? It’s all down to whether you like the aesthetic of the Watch I guess? Great topic here boet. Have a wonderful Christmas 🎄 and may 2024 see you creating yet more awesome content for us to enjoy and think about. ✊

[@GrumblingForesight]

Thank you for highlighting True Patina’s excellent work. I bought Blackbays 4 times this is year so I guess I dont personally have any issues with the snowflake hand. However, I’ve always wondered how these Tudor watches would look like without them. Now I know that it wont make them look better. Like you said, the watch actually lost a bit of its character without the oft criticized hand shape.

[@etanshirron1628]

Great video and analysis. Personally I love the complete snowflake scheme including the square markers and sec hand. For the BB, I would prefer a stick hour hand like the one Tudor made for "Only Watch"

[@NeoWahNah]

I hated it becauze it was different from what I was used to. I love it now. Thank you Tudor, for staying the course! But please!!! Do something a little different for the chronographs! The snowflake too often covers the sub dials!

[@9er..]

Wholeheartedly agree it should on the Pelagos and the Pelagos only. While there are some attractive and fun Tudors that I’d be interested in trying(LHD),I’ve ultimately moved on from the brand. It became a filler brand or place holder for me till I grew as a watch lover and amateur collector. For me, Tudor was a “rite of passage” watch. Merry Christmas dude! Looking forward to your “predictions” content.

[@ID-Guy]

Nicely said man, it's almost a natural progression experiencing Tudor and then moving on to other pieces. My FXD is THE watch for the job. brilliant machine as a tool watch but the Black Bay? Doesn't really tick all the boxes for me... they do feel like "rite of passage" pieces 😉 Have an excellent Christmas and New Year man! Also looking forward to busting out the designs again for early next year 🔥

[@wrrrrrt]

I liked both comments, even though I disagree with them. Or at least at some point. Pelagos doesn't speak to me at all, maybe except the last iteration. The first Pelagos watches are too much of a tool watch for my requirements (at this price point). Yet BB fits perfectly, especially in smaller sizes. I guess it depends on a personal preferences and taste. Therefore, I don't see any “rite passage” thing in it - which would suggest that these are watches for people who don't quite know what is good and what is not, and when they eventually realise it, they exchange Tudor for something else. At least as long as we are speaking about Tudor price shelf. However, it’s a good thing that these collections provoke discussions, that is the proof the brand is developing, and people are really into it.

[@stevenrademacher1400]

This video is a prime example of why IDGuy is my favorite watch-content channel.

[@keithlos1497]

As usual a thought-provoking video.For me the shield logo is as divisive. Bring back the rose! Thanks for your outstanding content over the last year.

[@davenordsieck6444]

I have and enjoy the BB Pro. I have a little list of ways it could be improved (looking at you, faux rivets), but I have zero issue with the snowflake hand! It has become iconic for Tudor

[@ID-Guy]

Rivet bracelets man... nicely said Dave, thank you! 🥃

[@seanpie5481]

Put put me in the camp that dislikes both snowflake and Mercedes hands. Great video. As I reach for my Invicta 1953…..😅

[@justingaines6203]

The snowflake hand has always reminded me of a “T” that is representative of the T in Tudor.

[@robertschmidt9584]

I have to confess. Having had a BB58 and now am FXD….it wasn’t the hands but the size of the case that made me move to something larger. The Snowflake hands are now embodied in the design DNA of the Tudor brand. Tudor has been going in the right direction and personally like it the handset.

[@TommyRibs]

I wasn’t wild about the Snowflake handset. Then I saw a Black Bezeled Tudor Black Bay Heritage 41mm in a Jewelry Store. I asked to try it on. The way the gilt hands captured the light captivated me. I bought it the next day. The symmetry of the dial and the hand set are awesome. I really like what Tudor is doing.

[@bigiona3938]

I’ve grown to be a fan of the snowflake hand. I didn’t care for it at first but the more I get into the hobby the more I appreciate the history of these brands. Without that context it is a bit baffling to new customers. That said, my most worn Tudor is the Ranger. Nothing to do with the snowflake hand, just the comfort on my wrist and no fuss design that I feel comfortable wearing no matter the activity. Great video and happy holidays!! Can’t wait to see your Explorer 1 video in the new year 😁. I just joined that club this month also (but I got the 40mm) and look forward to hearing your take on the icon.

[@temptingfate759]

Could the snow flake hands be improved??? Ie the hour marker is quite wide. What if the hands shape remained the same but their size was reduced just a bit so they remained functional, true to the Tudor heritage, but didn't take up so much dial space and stand out so much

[@rabtrekker]

I think BB54 has supreme legibility for its size PRECISELY because of the Snowflake contrast against the hour markers and it suits it perfectly. Its a nod towards the tool-ish origins of what is today a 'dressy diver'. I have no problems wearing it on a calfskin with my suit, or on bracelet to my clinic job or a NATO on weekends / hot weather. It is my most treasured watch and nothing that I've tried on comes close to the joy I get from the BB54 🤩

[@Tribalius]

Very well said, sir!

[@nikolastojadinovic2534]

The snowflake hand is Tudor's identity but I think in some models hand's should be thinner, more elegant.

[@RedwoodAggie]

You nailed every point, and although I follow true_patina, I had missed that mod. I think it's to distinctly Tudor to give up. I don't think it works as well on the Black Bay chronographs, but otherwise I love it. If you see another watch with the handset (ahem, San Martin), you know it's a straight up rip off of Tudor.

[@PietroCozziTinin]

Great video and nice to see you in two minds of something for a change. At least the snowflake hand is truly Tudors' property whereas the Mercedes hand is older than the Rolex brand. Not their invention at all. Happy holidays to us all.

[@terryscott2157]

Reintroduce the lollipop hour hand for anything other than the diver’s watch.. both are Tudor design history.. nice work as usual..regards.

[@glennrainey1227]

best wishes for the season, and please keep this first rate content coming ! Thanks.

[@themightysquid]

It’s the snowflake that makes reading the time so easy. And I happen to like it too.

[@pedromanuellopez142]

Happy Holidays ID Guy. Good points and tough call. Somehow, the snow flake hands just make sense at many levels Being the less expensive brand than Rolex, Tudor cases are blockier, less refined. That continues throughout every watch component, the crown and in many cases the dial material and finishing. So the blocky hands make sense. The one exception are the chronos. Maybe skeletonized hands would work better on those models. How about one of your renderings on the subject?

[@ChairmanTingArt]

I love the snow flake hand. I even love how it's called 'snow flake'. It's perfect.

[@Valera_Scotland]

To answer your question - i really like it on the Pelagos.. and i feel a sense of "meh" on other watches... to be honest the only Tudor i would ever buy at the moment is the FXD.... P.s. man I'm finally appreciating Panerai.... didn't think i ever would tried on a few recently. Older models... they're huge and imposing but they just work. The 00560 looked amazing on my wrist

[@ID-Guy]

100% reccomend the FXD. When it is in the right environment I genuinely could not ask for a better watch for the job. They can also be found for bargains on the bay. AND Panerai! I've always had an obsession for a gilt 50's piece... they are something special 😉

[@khronokraze]

Like many, I didn't like them at first, but, it grew on me and I really like them now... On Tudor watches. I do believe they work best on the Pelagos with matching square hour indexes. Ok all the other models?.. I've grown to accept them paired with the submariner style dial. But, they will always look best on the Pelagos.. unless they change their other dials to better match... And, I don't know how I'd feel about it if they did?... It would likely dilute the Pelagos's distinction within the Tudor catalog if its other "siblings" got a facelift and started to look like it. I feel this video has served to re-focus my thoughts about if I were to get another Tudor, currently own the BB58 bronze, it would have to be a Pelagos of some sort. It all works within that specific model line.

[@myronmorris3170]

You nailed it; I loathed the snowflake hand. And now, knowing its function, I have to rethink it. Thanks

[@RM-il7vc]

If you don’t like the snowflake hands you can go with the Ranger. Would be interested in seeing what a Ranger would look like with a diving bezel might need smaller/compact dial or what the Ranger dial and hands would look like on a Black Bay. I love the hands and numbers on the Ranger I also like the snowflake hands. Instantly know it’s a Tudor.

[@bdstansberry]

Indifferent is the worst place to be! Honestly, True Patina's recreation would probably be my preference. I know I wont ever have a chance to own the vintage 22 or 24, so a recreation would be amazing. Someday's I just imagine looking down at my wrist and seeing that 24 on a NATO and get happy. Merry Christmas my brother! Joy and Peace to you in the New Year! Thank you for sharing your talent and passion with us. Always appreciated.

[@TonyYoung-d2v]

You are VERY good at what you do sir! Well written, well presented, and with interesting insights. "is this just Stockholm syndrome at this point?" - that made me laugh. Merry Christmas!

[@ID-Guy]

I'll admit this video was scripted in places (a few of the major talking points) BUT Stockholm Syndrome was off the cuff 😆 Clearly expressing how I really feel, right? Haha! Many thanks for this and have a fantastic Christmas and New Year! 🥃

[@omegafanboyian]

Omega has the Helium escape valve Rolex has the Cyclops Tudor has the Snowflake It is what it is , long live the Snowflake

[@ID-Guy]

Well said Ian. All polarising features that turn people away from the pieces but also makes them distinct 🥃

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Thankfully not all Rolex’s have a Cyclops 😂

[@checksix_TC]

May I add Grand Seiko with their power reserve indicator at 8 o'clock.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Omegas HE Valve is basically a risk of water ingress. You have to touch it only to check it is closed.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

@@checksix_TC That’s the worse one lol. Thankfully they hide it on the back these days.

[@AldermanFredCDavis]

I absolutely LOVE the Tudor snowflake hands. I think they're the best watch hands I've ever seen. The syringe hands of the Sinn 104 are a distant second.

[@dhmy2kgto]

Ill take snowflake hands over the mercedes hands anyday. Merry X'mas and keep up the great content!

[@ID-Guy]

And a Merry Christmas to you sir! Thank you! 🥃

[@inglebybhoy3293]

The size of the vintage Tudor Sub’s hour hand is noticeably smaller than modern snowflake hands (BB36, BB58) and the visual impact is reduced. Tudor could tone it down a smidgen on some models. I think that would be a good change. Great topic IDGuy.

[@underachievingwatchcollect1878]

Especially on the chronographs.

[@AbdulRWatches]

Great video brother, i hope you had a blessed holiday time. I actually like it, i own the Tudor Submariner 94400 and owned the Black Bay R smily, and loved the hands on the simple no date dial. On another dial with complications, i think I would not like it.

[@dmt191105]

I love the snowflake hand. It gives character to the brand, it separates it from Rolex. I have BB36 smiley face, BB58 Blue and foe my 50th just picked up BB54. Great video.

[@watchnut]

Bring back the lollipop 76100 dial and hands for the Black Bay! I agree, keep the snowflake for the Pelagos line.

[@ID-Guy]

How cool were those 80's hands? But then I feel it would still look too much like Rolex. Wanted to include this as a segment in the video but felt it took the focus off the Snowflake hand 😉 Great point here brother!

[@smoothacceleration437]

I disliked snowflake hands on pictures, and thought I would dislike in the flesh... till I owned a Tudor. And now I love it. You gotta experience it in the flesh.

[@Ryan-pu9yw]

I wish they put it on the minutes hand as well. Love it.

[@Julian_O91]

The snowflake hand is the distinguishing feature of Tudor. The Mercedes Hand is copied far too often. But I have to say that the Pelagos Models with the Snowfalke Hand looks the best. ❄️

[@ID-Guy]

I really enjoy seeing that side-by-side of Rolex's Merc and Tudor's Snowflake hand. Instant recognisability is the name of the game today 🥃

[@Julian_O91]

@@ID-Guy 💯! The Mercedes Hand just doesn't fit Tudor anymore! Tudor has become an independent brand over the years.

[@rickfanning5647]

Maybe it’s just that I’ve only been “in to watches” for a few years, but I think the snowflake is iconically Tutor. If you add a Mercedes hand it looks like a Rolex that, well, isn’t a Rolex. I think they should keep it.

[@jeffmagic32]

Without those hands, they just look like every other sports watch on the market.

[@PeterKotsa]

Vive la France I cannot imagine my BB58 without that snowflake...I love it 🥃

[@ID-Guy]

Hope you're having an excellent break Pete! 🥃

[@PeterKotsa]

@@ID-Guy just managed to wind down from work for the end of the year...enjoy your break and stay safe

[@NoNameNo.5]

It would be utterly foolish to jettison the most iconic image of the Tudor brand

[@jasoncurtis4515]

I hated it for years! Then I saw the Harrods Black Bay in person and it changed for me. This has happened with other things in my life; sour beers and jazz immediately come to mind. Once I got it, I loved it. I’ve purchased 3 more Tudors since and admire many others. Thank you for making this video. It’s why I love this channel, these types of conversations are why watches are so much fun, and the community that has taken the time to comment on it is a group I’m proud to be a part of.

[@a-shaw-photo]

I respect the snowflake hand. It’s what I expect from Tudor. It’s synonymous with them and for that, I don’t mind at all. But…that ‘correct’ 54 is… very nice…

[@dannysimenauer5745]

ID Guy , thanks for enlightening us on the history of the snowflake hand on Tudor. I could see Tudor keeping it on its dive watch models, but it is out of place on the chronographs and GMT’s. Love to see syringe hands and also the use of lollipop circles on some models.

[@michaelriera6277]

Who is Bruce?

[@dannysimenauer5745]

@@michaelriera6277Oops, my bad. The host is not Bruce so I will make the change.

[@DougRobison-s5e]

I have a BB58 blue and very much like it. The snowflake hand is a unique Tudor design element, and I’m fine with it. However, I think it looks better when paired with square indices as in the Pelagos.

[@gregwebb1107]

I like the snowflake hand. However, I also agree that it may be simply belong on the Pelagos alone.

[@angrybanana6223]

My unpopular opinion is that the "hybrid" dial and handset looks better than the full snowflake combination.

[@ThD040]

Not for or against it. Tudor makes great watches but i never want to pull the trigger on one. Have a good Christmas and healthy 2024.

[@simsalartist]

I have a ‘Pagani Design PD-1671 V2’ and bought it because of its snowflake hand and the resemblance to a Tudor is amazing. Only the price is peanuts. 😊

[@rouge-gsd3061]

I've always liked the snowflake hand but I wonder if it would look good hollowed out at the square part for a similar but different effect to breguet hands.

[@MrNickMulgrave]

I'm trying to find a way to say that "I prefer the Butt-Plug hand on the Tudor Ranger "in a way that doesn't sound wrong. But clearly I can't.

[@GigaDad88]

I like the snowflake hand. But I guess once you see something a certain way you can’t unsee it.

[@wescobts]

As always a great video. I love the concept of shaking out a brand or a part of a brand, because there are a lot of parts . I feel the snowflake is a part of Tudor's identity, and although not my favorite handset, certainly, like you I would feel something is missing if it was not there. My least favorite are the arrows the Seiko uses, I'm not a watch snob, but boy o boy do they scream out loud "cheap" !!. Mercedes hands, and yes Rolex owns this one, although we've all seen others use it, I could do without them as well. My Favorite are the stick hands, as in the Seikos SPB series. Maybe it's my old eyes but they really position the hand by the indices , especially when the lume begins to fade.

[@nicholaschavez6245]

I liked the snowflake before, but I love it now. You're right, Tudor earned it and it theirs. I love consistency and Tudor is consistent. It's easy to read and, as I get a older, a no-brainer, in my opinion. Cheers 🥃

[@GaryScott-st9te]

Great video again . I really want that bb54 would love one jubilee

[@Valera_Scotland]

Merry Christmas man. Hope you have an atmospheric one ❄️ ❄️ ❄️

[@ID-Guy]

And to you Valera! Thank you for you input on every video and I really hope your IWC returns quickly! Have a super few weeks away 😉🥃

[@Valera_Scotland]

@@ID-Guy no worries. Your videos are my number one, and I watch many...too many general watch videos to be honest... that's a resolution for next year. Less KZbin, but NEVER less IDGuy ! Have a good one man... May next year bring positive changes

[@AW-wm9bk]

the funny thing is, Rolex' Mercedes Hands are old-fashioned!!.. They should really do something..

[@davem8836]

Did I hear you correctly when you said Canadian Navy? We have a navy? Ever since the debacle in San Diego when a Canadian ship was asked to leave port due to being drunk and disorderly, I'm not sure that constitutes having a navy ;)

[@davem8836]

@@IDKline Haha! Now that's funny! lol

[@ID-Guy]

This made me chuckle 😆 Thanks Dave! 🥃

[@davem8836]

😆@@ID-Guy

[@cohenmd1]

"The hand does get in the way of the harmony." That is a devastating observation. It is compelling because it is a judgment and not merely a reaction or expression of taste - it makes an argument. Because as any trained designer knows - and clearly you know - the alternative to visual "harmony" is visual chaos, and visual chaos does not require or display ability or incisive thought. It doesn't express anything at all. It's just a sequence of randomly selected parts bins, or the equivalent thereof. It's designing in a lightless room. Many years ago, I read a review in Rolling Stone that taught me a lot. The regular reviewers were asked to choose their favorite record albums of the previous 10 years and explain their choices. The review I remember was one sentence, a review of an album by the Ramones. It read: "I know it's stupid but it's my kind of stupid." And it taught me - there is all the difference in the world between what you like and what you respect. So, my question after all this is - one can like, or dislike, whatever one does, but should we respect the Tudor snowflake hand, or is respecting it merely a mistake - a lapse in judgment? BTW: "Stockholm syndrome." Very good.

[@xchazz86]

Sword hands would go really nicely with the Tudor shield.

[@ID-Guy]

It seems like brands are just afraid to ever put Sword hands on their dials... it's like a Swiss curse or something 😆🥃

[@ZCherish]

Your videos always have incredibly powerful insight. Happy holidays.

[@zachtan]

What about the Ranger dial and handset on a diver?

[@Ossory88]

The letter X in Rolex corresponds well with the mercedes hands. Thats why it doesnt work on a tudor dial with tudor printed on.

[@TheDudleyJames]

I own a bb 41 burgundy. The snowflake hour hand is easy to read when the minute hand is over it. But having the lollipop seconds hand is lovely too.

[@michaeleldridge3606]

Spot on video! Love the snowflake hand. It is theirs.

[@markbyrum4743]

The snowflake hands are distinctly Tudor, like the BMW double kidney grill. Like it or not, you see them and you think BMW, or Tudor, as the case may be. Personally, I like them. Good vid. Keep at it!

[@EdThomas]

Love it. Quite surprised to hear so many dislike it.

[@Soul_of_a_Robot]

I like it and its part of the identity of Tudor now. People really put a lot of energy in to disliking it... Just move on if you dislike it. But my something else. Very simple

[@harryx6677]

I disliked the snow flake hand, but appreciate its originality. I think it’s just too big, and they need to shrink down the square block so it doesn’t overpower the rest of the dial.

[@ListenToPowerViolence]

I dislike them. They feel less premium, like a cost cutting measure. Though they do dispel the theory that the sections of a Mercedes hour hand are needed to keep such a large chunk of lume in tact.

[@rhgrabowski3855]

I cannot bash the Tudor snowflake hands. After years of trying on numerous watches to seek the one watch that I would be proud to wear every day, I recently got the call. Now a Tudor adorns my wrist, and I am willing to divest all my other watches. Long live the snowflake hands.

[@ID-Guy]

Saw your email a few days ago and I always find replying via YT is far more efficient 😉 So stoked that you picked up a Tudor for yourself sir! Excited to see what it is - I'm just going to have to guess by looking at the box that it's a Tudor ;) Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year! 🥃

[@rhgrabowski3855]

@@ID-Guy I have acquired the Pelagos 39. It ticked every mark I have searched for.

[@daviswiltonbader4807]

I think the snowflake hand is iconic. It looks better on some models than others, but I want to call out the BB54 for its slimmed down snowflake hand. I think this is the best rendition on a black bay.

[@chowda4u]

I like the snowflake on the seconds hand but what throws me off is how the hour hand has the tip cut off. I definitely agree that the hands don't work on the 58 but it would look like another homage if it had regular hands. Great analysis!

[@sp10290]

I would own more Tudors if it weren't for the snowflake hand. I agree it works with the Pelagos but I don't like it on any of the others.

[@domgledhill4165]

Great Video my friend - thanks for providing some superlative, thoughtful content over this last year. To answer your question - I like it - I see it as a diamond rather than a square (neither wrong, I know) but that's just how my brain reads it. Then again, I'm just a graphic designer - typography being my thing! 😆

[@ID-Guy]

Calling it a diamond is far better than calling it a square ;) And I'm sure my typography makes you cringe every time you see a cover photo of mine 😆 Thanks a million Dom!🥃

[@domgledhill4165]

@@ID-Guy Ha ha! Not in the least - I'm enjoying all of your content. Have a great Christmas and New Year, here's hoping you get that well deserved rest! 🥃

[@Supercruze]

I am a fan of the Tudor snowflake hand set when they are used with a dial with square indice. Combined the snowflake with round indice, and I think there is a design element that does not mix well. I wish more watch companies would use square indice on their watch dials. For the round indice dials, I like a mercedes hand or sword handset for better symmetry.

[@adalbertthomalla4887]

Its unique design was one reason for me to buy the watch (Pelagos LHD). And the left hand drive. And the Patina. And the titanium. And the link to military.

[@ID-Guy]

Pelagos' man... they are special. Truly the only Tudor I'd ever own given the choice 🥃

[@ImTheDudeMan471]

As a design professional, the snowflake hand makes me ill 👎. It should point through to the hour marker. It does not. The snowflake is a "visual stop bump" on the way to reading the hour marker. And NO, the Bauhaus would have used a better geometry that points, not the "visual stop bump" snowflake.

[@sdm107]

I don’t mind the snowflake hand when it’s paired with square hour markers. I don’t like it paired with circular markers, it’s a mismatch

[@Leftystrat]

Absolutely ,only works on the wafer hour plots

[@danielwilliams2467]

I actually love the snowflake hand. That’s the main reason I have three Tudor watches

[@z06cowboy72]

On my wrist the snowflake hands are wonderfully legible, much better than the SMP. Combined with square markers they balance the dial. Tool watch perfection.

[@solanpepper5762]

It’s a really good point this? I actually don’t know if I like it or not! For some reason the fxd looks right but others look completely wrong. But it makes me think are we being too safe with handsets? Reusing the same over and over. Could we do more…..

[@billhull1606]

Prior to owning a Tudor I thought the snowflake hand was unnecessarily large and muddled the dial. Now that own two Tudors, I love the snowflake hand and can’t imagine a Tudor not having that handset.

[@onifrakimarq7663]

The snowflakes one my Black Bays are making me smile every time I look at them. I love that design element and the story behind it.

[@Wu.Tang.Financial]

Honestly the snowflake hand has grown on me over time. Spot on about it matching the square indices on the pelagos more though.

[@lomadonkey]

The snowflake hour hand is ok for me (Switzerland > snow, fits for me) but to me they could be a bit shorter on the BBs, as they are on the Pelagos line. But it‘s shown in the vid that the long length refers to an older model, so… (there was even an early Rolex Sub with overlength hour hands). Maybe it doesn‘t look so great but makes it faster to read in busy situations.

[@tacticaltruth8118]

The biggest annoyance of the Tudor Pelagos is not the snowflake hand, but the lengthy 5 lines of text at the bottom. Most of that can go on the back, if it is truly needed. Regarding the so-called snowflake hand - which, let’s keep it real, looks nothing like a snowflake - I have come to, and I can hardly bring myself to admit this, like it. That said, I would leave the snowflake hand as is on the Pelagos but reduce the size of the square by 20% for the Black Bay. Great video, thanks!

[@donulldh4785]

Love the Snowflake. Having an FXD with square markers and a BB GMT with round ones, I believe the snowflake works with both. I am such a fan, a picture of a snowflake hand is the wallpaper on my computer and mobile. Great video and thanks for the content.

[@BennyLlama]

The snowflake hands on the BB58 are the reason I got mine this year instead of waiting for them to release a master chronometer version with the lollipop seconds hand.

[@hendersonshorology]

Always thought it looked odd, then I bought the 58 and found out. Awesome legibility and iconic, winner ❄️