The Northern Heights Project - A Web Of Mystery In North London! | Another Station, Another Mile #10

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AJ Omega

AJ Omega

4 жыл бұрын

Abandoned stations and lines lost to the passage of time are nothing new in this series. But how about lines and stations that never even existed to begin with? All of the above are part of the fascinating story of a plan in 1935 to extend the Northern Line further northbound. Through a combination of amalgamating with other lines, rebuilding existing stations, and adding brand new routes altogether, the Northern Line would have stretched as far afield as High Barnet, Alexandra Palace and even Bushey Heath in Hertfordshire. Sadly, after the intervention of the Second World War, the Northern Line only ever reached one of those three locations, and by the mid-1950s the rest of this project was cancelled altogether - leaving behind a maze of clues that can only hint as to what could have been. Folks, it's time to dive in to the mystery that is...the Northern Heights project!
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@elidresner4850
@elidresner4850 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Northern line area videos makes me feel nostalgic for the days I used to do London underground touring with my grandfather
@francispagan9676
@francispagan9676 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. Way back in the 1950s I was at a lecture in the Royal Institution and saw a weird tube map in the gents showing these extraordinary bits of the Northern line that I didn't believe existed shown as 'to be electrified'. The map was clearly a survival from the 1930s indicating the new works programme. I've researched a lot since and seeing your vid and Jay Formans and Jago Hazzards has really filled it in for me It reminds me of my days as a tube nerd!
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, in the 1960s in my early teens I spent a lot of time at Finsbury Park as a train spotter. On the eastern side of the station were huge girders which were installed for new platforms for the Northern City line. If you go into Finsbury Park there is a footbridge crossing the mainline which is still in use. Between the footbridge and the station was a flyover to connect to the Northern Hieghts line. Tubestock from Drayton Park was ha hauled by LT battery locos to connect with the Northern line , this was for stock movement. When this linewas ripped upstock movement was taken up to Finsbury Park and therein went into Kingscross and connect to the widened lines at Farringdon on the circle line. The northern city was a scary little line when tubes ran along it. The large tunnels bores looked spooky and the tube trains looked like ghost trains. Due to the small trains and large bores the trains made a very eerie sound . The line was deserted during the days and the stations had a dank smell. I found it spooky as if it was haunted. Up until 1966 the line used 1920s standard tube stock, this went to the Isle of Wight 8n 1966 and 1938 stock took over.
@darrenhudson5503
@darrenhudson5503 4 жыл бұрын
I used to work on the underground at highgate stn and would check the overground buildings once a day..stairs lead up from the mess room in the ticket hall up to the overground platform..as you say the tunnels are closed because they are a bat reserve..northbound tunnels lead into east finchley depot..I also used to work at archway stn and there are tunnels leading off from northbound platform..if tou look up tou can see grids above the platform and these are a catwalk style bridge over the northbound line..this leads to a bricked off tunnel.spur going northbound Highgate has the longest platforms on the network..and one of the deepest apart from I think hampstead and or angel..I also used to work at hyde park corner and would have to check the old stn entrance where pizza on the park was or still is..there is a side door which leads down to the old ticket hall and lift shafts
@limeyosu2000
@limeyosu2000 3 жыл бұрын
Always wondered if pizza in the park had a secret entrance! Would love pics or a video
@kasparasvisockas4289
@kasparasvisockas4289 4 жыл бұрын
There can never be too many British railway channels. Subscribed.
@OEPNVInternational
@OEPNVInternational 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! I love this series! I was aware about the Northern Heights Project for years because of Jay Foremans classic video about it, but you're going much more in detail which is great! Greetings from Germany and keep doing this awesome work!
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you! That's very kind of you to say :)
@martinward2644
@martinward2644 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I was born in Burnt Oak and remember the arches as they used to be at the proposed Brockley hill station. I also just remember an occaisonal train running from Mill Hill the hale through to Edgeware. It's good to hear about the Northern heights project as it explains at lot of things I didn't understand as a kid.
@jonathanbell8189
@jonathanbell8189 4 жыл бұрын
As a child around 1950 and living in East Finchley my Grandfather used to take me by train to Broad Street from the higher level station at Highgate through Finsbury Park and Dalston. I can remember it well. Thanks for the memories.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, that's amazing - thank you for sharing your story :)
@ChilternTransportProductions
@ChilternTransportProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Do you remember which type of rolling stock it used to use by chance?
@gazzavc
@gazzavc Ай бұрын
I remember as a kid climbing on the old viaduct stumps where Brockley Hill station was supposed to have been built !!
@cliffordison5004
@cliffordison5004 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Brought up in Watford and parents both North Londoners so saw the brick arches next to A41 every time we passed by. Look forward to more of your work! Learnt more about Northern Heights retired to West Country via You Tube than ever knew as a youngster living nearby!
@davidw1518
@davidw1518 4 жыл бұрын
"Even Bushey, out in Hertfordshire"? Don't forget that Barnet (and High Barnet station) was also in Hertfordshire, until it became part of Greater London when that was invented in (?)the 1960s!
@shero113
@shero113 4 жыл бұрын
If you come back to Edgware I'd love to show you loads you missed out. Platform 1 at Edgware looks weird, because it's an island platform, but sans the other side (platform 1 and it's sister were to be the terminus, and the other for trains going north. Shelley Close and Campbell Close were built on the filled-in trench for the railway, and Purcells Avenue was a bridge over the line. Nothing to see, bar that the two closes are modern and strange looking. Likewise, the southern end of Sterling Avenue was unfilled railway land. As often the way, you can tell where railways were by the closes, and crescents, as with the 3 off Green Lane, and Edgwarebury Gardens, which backed onto the line. Going north, the station was basically completed, as stated, and thence would have gone into twin tunnels to reach the works. The tunnels were at least part built, because in the 1950s a girl drowned in them, and they were shut up. I've read that part of the M1 was built on the alignment, but I can't see how exactly. The works was designed to be able to lift 2x 9 car trains, in one go. At one time the Northern Line was supposed to use longer trains, and these could have been lifted in one unit, no need for uncoupling. As an aside, look at Burnt Oak and Colindale for the by-pass (southbound) where express trains could speed on. The works actually were (IIRC) the longest single something or another building in the world, being really awfully long in length. The new industrial estate is built on the site of the works, and give some idea of scale. To see how they looked, watch the Cliff Richard film 'Summer Holiday', as the bus depot is the old railway works. To the north is where Bushey Heath was, but the only thing remaining is the oddly shaped roundabout. One other oddity is the RNOH, which would have been near Elstree Hill South station, but now stands isolated on Brockley Hill. Going back to Mill Hill East, the line was completed due to the Ingless Barracks, recently turned into a housing estate, but in WWII needed a railway connection. Also, there was a gasometer, now a Waitrose. Until recently the line passed under the drive way to the carpark of the Laing building, but it's now a housing estate. On Bunns Lane, near where the Scout Hut was newly built the line passed in a bridge under the lane, and thence through what's now an industrial estate. You can still see in the alignment of the road how it was altered for the bridge (filled in). Walking around Bunns Lane one finds another bridge, filled, and the railway went through what's now a park. However, on the Midland Railway side the old police building (now commercial offices) retained the line of the line, by a wooded area/path behind it, at a strange angle. As the building was built in the 1950s or 60s, and the line was extant then, it clearly avoided it (was it the site of the station? I read it was were the car park is now) Now go back to Edgware. Over Deans Lane is a bridge. On one side (the Edgware side) are the sidings on the 1869 line, on the other, a footpath. Interestingly, the line also divided up the types of housing. So, now we're back to the remains of the line that are still being used, as sidings (you can see a gate marked TfL). The sidings run into Edgware station complex, but, there's a fascinating bit of history left. Immediately to the south of the Edgware station complex, and in alignment of the sidings, is a bridge, but nothing is carried over the railway. Nip into the Broadwalk Centre, free parking for 90 minutes, and go the opposing diagonal corner from the entrance. There you can see the bridge, which carried the original 1869 GNR line into the original Edgware station. The site is now the Broadwalk Centre. As a kid I remember it when it was a scrapper, and see the building in it. Even then I wondered why it looked like Mill Hill East station, in style and bricks - and figured it out! Finally, the GNR had permission to run from Edgware to Watford via Bushey Heath. London Transport took over these powers, with a slight change, as the extension would run from the 1923 station, not the 1869 one. Oh, and the Ally Pally line was already signalled, and a few weeks away from conversion when abandoned. A crazy loss.
@flp322
@flp322 4 жыл бұрын
"We interrupt this railway documentary for squirrels." Understandable, have a nice day.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you understand my need to be distracted by squirrels xD
@flp322
@flp322 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega All kidding aside though, your videos are really high quality. I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers
@annescholey6546
@annescholey6546 4 жыл бұрын
Don't run into Carnt pay take it away...
@Enzo7503
@Enzo7503 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel and I have to say that I love your content! You are criminally undersubscribed, I hope you keep making bomb ass videos
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, at the other end of the Northern Line, Morden wasn't intended to be the end of the line. It was intended to reach Sutton via what is today the Wimbledon loop used by Thameslink trains. The route beyond Morden was opposed by the Southern Railway (the one that came into existence after the 1923 Grouping), thus leaving the station at the end of the extension from Clapham Common that opened in 1926 serving what was a rural backwater (hard to believe I know, given how Morden developed since then)
@underwaterdick
@underwaterdick 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, thanks for making it. Pretty informative despite having heard about this extension several times before.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! That was the aim of the video - try to bring together a lot of different things people may or may not already know about the Northern Heights. Like many people, Ive watched Jay Foreman's excellent video on the subject many times, so I didnt just want to copy his video you know? Glad you enjoyed it 😊
@jennykettle7981
@jennykettle7981 4 жыл бұрын
This is so intriguing and mysterious!
@erikthenorviking8251
@erikthenorviking8251 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, and so wonderfully atmospheric, especially around dusk. Half expected to see a "colourised" Sir John Betjeman waiting to catch a tube somewhere. Keep up the good work lads !
@meltrain
@meltrain 4 жыл бұрын
This is the third vidoe I've seen about the Northern Heights Project and all of them are excellent in their own unique way. And I don't even live in the UK.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted - I know it's a topic that's been covered by other excellent sources, so I wanted to try and offer my unique take. I have watched and love both Geoff Marshall and Jay Foreman's videos on the subject, so I didn't want to just copy them wholesale.
@srahman1512
@srahman1512 11 ай бұрын
Thank you guys, I wish London mayor can get some sense in his head to reopen this section of the route excellent fact based vlog
@MannyAntipov
@MannyAntipov 4 жыл бұрын
Excited to see another station another mile episode!
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 4 жыл бұрын
They did build the train depot that was between Elstree South and Bushey Heath. It was known as Aldenham, became a factory during the war and then was made into a bus overhaul centre. It has now sadly been demolished.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Correct! If there was any evidence of its existence still around today I'd have definitely gone and found it to put in here.
@watchmakersp9935
@watchmakersp9935 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...really interesting!
@wharpblast264
@wharpblast264 2 жыл бұрын
We used to live in Watford/Bushey area. I remember seeing a plan which included the Northern line extended from Bushey Heath to Watford, terminating at a underground station called Watford Market right in the centre of Watford, with an intermediate station at Bushey (I think). Ironic that a line cancelled due to green belt designation has been built over.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Funny how that goes, right?
@craigwhitehead4989
@craigwhitehead4989 4 жыл бұрын
Great video guys keep it up,
@davicoo69
@davicoo69 4 жыл бұрын
The Northern Heights project actually got very much going! Two thirds of the infrastructure was completed by the time of postponement. New platforms were partially built at Finsbury Park, along with the remodeling of lines in the Drayton Park area, to allow trains to access the lines North of Finsbury Park. Also, two substations were built at Crouch End and Mill Hill, the Hale, and some stations along the line were extensively remodelled. Along with signalling and communications infrastructure running alongside most of the proposed route, with Traction current rails partially installed. Extensive new trackwork and platforms were completed at Edgware, along with new Signal cabins at Drayton Park, Park junction, East Finchley, Finchley Central, and Edgware. Tunnels were also partially dug at Elstree South, along with a newly completed Train overhaul works at Aldernam. This project had more than got off the ground by the time it was shelved. A very good book called 'Northern wastes; the scandal of the uncompleted Northern line extensions' explains it all in detail. Well worth a read.
@annescholey6546
@annescholey6546 4 жыл бұрын
Quick Beeching at 4.37!
@annescholey6546
@annescholey6546 4 жыл бұрын
John Betjeman hated the creeping suburbia in the 30s that these lines would have brought with them and campaigned to stop the erosion of London's green belt.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine! One has to wonder what the area would've looked like back then.
@grimpeursdusud1533
@grimpeursdusud1533 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these well done ASAM! ;-)
@brianjrichman
@brianjrichman 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have loved a tube station at Ally-Pally. Even if it was a long way from my home station on the eastern end of the Central Line, the views south over Central London on a clear day were/are amazing.
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 4 жыл бұрын
I managed to get up into Highgate High level platforms, i asked a station master a few years ago and he kindly obliged. As for the rest of the routes, today would be a good excuse to get it done.
@ttrjw
@ttrjw 4 жыл бұрын
At the other end of London you have the Chessington South which was meant to go to Leatherhead - stations never built: Malden Rushett, Leatherhead North.
@OskarOH
@OskarOH 3 жыл бұрын
Only recently discovered your channel, and I'm glad I did. Concerning this video though, the Northern Heights project has long fascinated me. I have visited the entire Northern City Line, Alexandra Palace, Mill Hill East, Edgeware, and actually managed to gain access to the Highgate High Level platforms once by pure chance. Bumped into a very polite member of staff. Just wish I took more photos. I have, however, not yet walked the route from Finsbury Park, but it's on my list of things to do next time I'm in London. Whenever that might be.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you get a chance to walk the Finsbury Park route soon :) And that's amazing, I had no idea you could try asking a member of staff at Highgate station to see if they'd let you up to the old platforms?!
@OskarOH
@OskarOH 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega Neither did I to be honest. I went out to Highgate to try and get some shots from outside the perimeter, walking around for an hour or two trying to find the best angle. And getting lost in the woods a few times. Took one picture and gave up, thought I'd carry on towards Mill Hill East. When I came into the ticket office there were three members of staff chatting along, one of them noticing me standing there waiting for their conversation to end. Another one of them came over to me and asked if there was something on my mind. So I told him, hesitantly and fully expecting a no, that "I was just wondering if I could take a look at the high level platforms, maybe? Take some pictures." I don't remember his reply, but we had a little chat before he went into his office, grabbed a set of keys, and escorted me up there. Unfortunately I only took two pictures, but it's amazing how much is still there, including the original station building. On our way back down to the ticket office I told him I never thought I'd get to see those platforms with my own eyes, or something along those lines. That's when he told me "You don't ask, you don't get." So I don't think it hurts to ask. The platforms are, obviously, off limits to the general public normally, so I was kinda nervous. But you never know who you might bump into. Sorry for the wall of text.
@MrRawMonkey
@MrRawMonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Aldernham bus depot was built originally for the underground that never came.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Correct! :)
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega Geoff M said that one of the roundabouts on the A41 was planned somewhat similar to ?Oakwood Station on the Picadilly
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video.
@srfurley
@srfurley 3 жыл бұрын
Now demolished, but Aldenham depot was built, and after the project was abandoned became a bus overhaul works for many years.
@RichardFelstead1949
@RichardFelstead1949 4 жыл бұрын
G'Day from Australia. Just discovered your channel.
@blutey
@blutey 6 ай бұрын
Didn't know Harry Kane was a train spotter!
@limeyosu2000
@limeyosu2000 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel love the content! Job well done. I used to live by London so when I get homesick I watch vids about the tube and London oddity’s. if you need any American hats let me know I live here full time most hats are cheap.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, thank you! That's really nice to know. And about the hats - any NBA or sports snapbacks? xD
@Rule1ModelRailways
@Rule1ModelRailways 4 жыл бұрын
You need more subs btw.
@jvk1770
@jvk1770 4 жыл бұрын
The Northern Heights Project - "a bit like the Northern City Line except it's not there anymore!" It's a great piece of visible history, as part of the domino effect caused by the war. To think if it hadn't all kicked off eighty years ago this would probably be a pretty busy little network today!
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Right? And its stunning that so much evidence of this *unfinished* project actually still exists?
@jvk1770
@jvk1770 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega Yeah there's stuff like this all over the country, just have to look! It's too much effort to pull it all down so might as well just leave it there! It's the same with all the leftover WWII defences down my way.
@HH-qm2gc
@HH-qm2gc 4 жыл бұрын
There is some very, very vague talk that part of the Northern heights route could become part of Crossrail 2.
@CCA2020
@CCA2020 4 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of that
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 4 жыл бұрын
At 20:30 for a few seconds, that looks like a really *old* train. The black+white footage is *part* of it but the lighting, dampness and half-darkness all seem to add to the illusion. Or is it just me? Interesting stuff guys, a different take on a similar piece that Jay Foreman did with Geoff. A shame to have wasted the bits that *did* get built. Is the tunnel beyond Edgware station complete/intact?
@Cheeseatingjunglista
@Cheeseatingjunglista 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Dire Straits in that Stroud green pub when I waz a student and they unknown. There were really good for a pub band. It cost 50p - well it was that or free most nights, they might have been a quid.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@HughTerry69
@HughTerry69 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. It would be nice to have some more wide shots, e.g. of Alexandra Palace station, and rather fewer tight close-ups!
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Noted! :)
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega You could try google maps.
@anthonyholroyd5359
@anthonyholroyd5359 4 жыл бұрын
I've long wanted to see a new London underground line that started with the Waterloo & city, but with a new intermediate stop at Blackfriars. Linking the W&C line station at Bank to the Northern city platforms at Moorgate Following the Northern city to Finsbury Park, then the old northern heights plan, initially to Highgate . . . Then into 2 northern branches - one to Alexandra Palace and the other to Edgeware via Mill Hill east. The name of the line? Just as the Bakerloo is a portmanteau of 'Baker st. & Waterloo' I'd suggest a portmanteau of 'Waterloo & Highgate' The Watergate line.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! I love that! And I believe I've seen somewhere, or remember reading, a proposal to link the W&C to the Northern City? It was under consideration at some point, I'm sure?
@anthonyholroyd5359
@anthonyholroyd5359 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega i think it was once, a few decades ago. I remember reading it somewhere too. But not recently, sadly.
@norbitonflyer5625
@norbitonflyer5625 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyholroyd5359 Not really feasible sadly. The W&C couldn't take any more passengers than it does already, and the Central Line is in the way of extension beyond Bank (and the Northern City Line at Moorgate is sandwiched between the Northern Line and the Met, and now Crossrail, so extension of that southwards is not possible either) All platforms on both lines would need extending for longer trains. So altogether you would be using very little of the old lines and it would be cheaer and less disruptive to build a new line connecting the SWestern and Gt Northern routes, which is what Crossrail 2 will do, if it ever happens. Leave the NCL and W&C to do what they do best.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 4 жыл бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 A problem is that too many lines run SW (ish) to NE(ish) , Crossrail helps take much of the ' through E-W passengers (such many or few as there might be in a post covid world- lots of fixed cost and not much marginal revenue to the profit for all of London's Transport). I dont think many people work out that Waterloo to Blackfriar Bridge (South) is a short walk, comparable with Euston To Kings Cross - a drag in the rain but a stroll in the Sun which perhaps should be linked by foot tunnels with travelators - probably not much more distance that some of the line changes Northern to Jubilee at Waterloo anyway.
@Tonydjjokerit
@Tonydjjokerit 4 жыл бұрын
@@norbitonflyer5625 The line itself would have to be completely revamped and probably realigned at both ends in order to avoid both Central, Met and Northern lines as well as Crossrail. It will be very expensive but can it be done? I would say it is doable and a lot cheaper than Crossrail 2!!!
@grimpeursdusud1533
@grimpeursdusud1533 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise that the ramps from Drayton Park up to the main line at Finsbury Park were pre-war, thought they were added as part of the BR Northern City Line. So was the plan to have Northern Line platforms at ECML level?
@JamesTheBell1
@JamesTheBell1 3 жыл бұрын
12:53 When you can't finish making a documentary about something which can't be finished.
@tennyho3236
@tennyho3236 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve a question, in jay foreman’s video he said that an anecdote provides that a 500-metre tunnel of elstree south station has been built. Is that true?
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
I believe so? I have heard that story too. As I said in this video, there is proof of what looks like a tunnel mouth at Brockley Hill heading northbound, very overgrown. It's possible that tunnelling started at Elstree South!
@tennyho3236
@tennyho3236 4 жыл бұрын
Another Station, Another Mile sounds reasonable! Thanks~
@stevenwilliamson474
@stevenwilliamson474 3 жыл бұрын
It is true. I bought the Northern heights book. Great read, lots of info. It has a picture of the tunnel entrance. Completely built and finished but being covered up !. Just 1 pic survives. Apparently the M1 motorway now cuts crossways through the route of the tunnel.
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think that the Northern Line would of gone as far as Bushey Heath and Watford from Edgware. As the Northern Line extension to Battersea Power Station is due to be completed by next year. And could possibly extend to Clapham Junction.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 4 жыл бұрын
There was lots of disagreement in Watford Borough Council about the line being built in the first place, first they didnt want it, then they did. With the change in the Private Big 4 railways into nationalisation and the Green Belt Planning restrictions we ended up with the poor mix of limited public transport, but some of the alignments being used for motorway and dual carriageway links in the area . which obliterated the decent farmland leaving the green scrub (which some insects like) of today. Although Mill Hill East is made to look like a branch off on the map in realitiy wit is a straight run into the southern section of the Northern Line, its the link up to HIgh Barnet that is the .'Branch' to the right heading north.
@markc8956
@markc8956 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a couple of decades for a train is still a thing!! ;-)
@lionsheart8
@lionsheart8 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have been nice if they extended the Northern line to Bushey Heath or extend Crossrail to Hemel Hempstead
@johnchurch4705
@johnchurch4705 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a very good book book that’s worth getting called By tube beyond Edgware by Tony Beard. It worth getting if you find the northern heights extension interesting. It a pity the line from Mill Hill East to Edgware wasn’t kept as Mill Hill The Vale would have been a good interchange with Mill Hill mainline station.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Oh fantastic! I'll look out for that book :)
@srhvideo
@srhvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Have you any plans for the abandoned plans for the extension that would have taken the railways that became either the Northern or District Lines to Sutton? In my head Hancock's Half Hour, which perhaps is meaningless to someone your age, makes more sense in an alternative universe where one of these extensions was built
@lofcmatt
@lofcmatt 4 жыл бұрын
Can you share directions/google maps pin to the Bexley Hill station please? 🤓
@liamlawlor4001
@liamlawlor4001 4 жыл бұрын
The Parkland Walk between Finsbury Park and Highgate was 'saved' from development in 1980ish. The council had a propsal to build housing all the way down the line. The Highgate Society, amoungst others, opposed the plan and the inspector found in their favour. Hence you still have the Parkland Walk and all of the train stuff still there.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that's great to hear! Good work from the Highgate Society :)
@blutey
@blutey 6 ай бұрын
There have been several attempts to build on it. There were earlier plans in 1975 by Haringey council for houses and a dual lane carriage way along the track put forward by George Meehan. This was to link Finsbury Park and Archway Rd at the Holmesdale Rd junction. After opposition and a meeting at St Augustine's Church Hall with local residents, the plan was scrapped. Currently there are plans to partially asphalt the track and put a cycle lane along the walk. Eternal vigilance is required.
@johnhall1504
@johnhall1504 4 жыл бұрын
I can remember the old railway between crouch end and Muswell hill my mum used to work in Muswell hill and we used to catch the train at crouch end when I was about three or for I loved the old steam trains became a train spotter quite a few years later at nine or ten
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, that's amazing! Do you remember much about what the stations and line looked like back then?
@johnhall1504
@johnhall1504 4 жыл бұрын
Another Station, Another Mile not really much like any other British rail station and old steam trains which I loved but my memories for then are pretty vague it was nearly 70 years ago but I do remember going to Hornsby station and sitting on the bridge train spotting when I was ten watching trains like Mallard and Union of South Africa and others those were the days I live in Melbourne Australia now
@johnhall1504
@johnhall1504 4 жыл бұрын
Hornsey
@blutey
@blutey 6 ай бұрын
Although not old enough to have ridden on the line, I still remember as a child watching trains running on the line _circa_ 1969/70 from my window. The passenger service had by then long ceased but the line was still used to take occasional empty train stock from East Finchley to Finsbury Park using battery locomotives. Was always exciting watching a train come along the track from my bedroom window. Back then, the slopes of the embankment were mainly covered in grass and not trees as it is today and were full of butterflies every summer.
@blutey
@blutey 6 ай бұрын
I have a recent video on my channel of the Parkland walk from Jan 2021 covered in snow looking very picturesque. Would post the link but YT won't allow it!
@pras12100
@pras12100 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video as ever but what happened to the poor jogger at 08:05? Now you see her, now you don't. Continuity error perhaps? ;-)
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted.
@PrograError
@PrograError 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder can anything resembling this project be built now... tho I imagine the nightmares of EIAs and budgetary concerns....
@ianhudson9398
@ianhudson9398 3 жыл бұрын
Seems you forgot the major bit if the Bushey Heath line that did get built.... Aldenham!!
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, fair point! I would've gone to find the location of the works, if there was anything left to see. :(
@WifeMamaArtist
@WifeMamaArtist 3 жыл бұрын
Film on a Sunday and do the bit between Mill Hill East and Edgware. I promise to wave to you from the back of the house?
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! It's a deal ;)
@eddiewillers1
@eddiewillers1 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry - Jay Foreman's 'Unfinished London' on the Northern Heights Plan goes into much more detail.
@JRJUK
@JRJUK 4 жыл бұрын
Because everything leads to the NCL....
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING.
@crossleydd42
@crossleydd42 4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing odd about the Mill Hill East spur. The nearby new Tube Depot building had been completed but not fitted out in 1940. It was eventually requisitioned for use as a factory for building Halifax bombers. To help the workers to get there easily, the spur was built by gathering up spare electrical equipment and track which lay around and building the single line spur with its very basic station. Postwar, the tube depot became Aldernham Bus Overhaul Works.
@fahadchugs-124
@fahadchugs-124 Жыл бұрын
Can it sitll go to bushy heath and Alexdana place today or not
@blutey
@blutey 6 ай бұрын
No, it can't. The tracks were removed in the early 1970s.
@jappedut9009
@jappedut9009 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that everything connected with the "northern line" is a bit mysterious, shady or obscure 😲😜
@christopherflynn4094
@christopherflynn4094 4 жыл бұрын
0/10. Video didnt involve me because I had to go xmas shopping.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
EXCUSES xD
@alltransman5033
@alltransman5033 4 жыл бұрын
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@Will-dm1kt
@Will-dm1kt 7 ай бұрын
Whilst it's an interesting video, this subject has been done to death on countless other channels, Geoff Marshall, Jago Hazard to name a few. Anyone with an interest in trains/ tube will have already seen this. Maybe something more original/obscure might be more interesting.
@effyleven
@effyleven 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. For some reason or another, baseball caps have completely lost their charm, if they ever had any.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, last year they were still the 'in' fashion choice. Signed, me. A true fashionista. ;)
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