The Nothing Phone (2) is a Terrible Value...

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The Nothing Phone (2) is a terrible value in my opinion, but its a cool phone. The Nothing Phone 2 is a new phone from nothing following the Nothing Phone 1, it's unique, stylish, and simple but this time, they really messed it up.
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[@fantafe]

I'm sorry, but any tech reviewer who's reviewing a product without actually owning it physically and trying it is a joke review.

[@sevenelven]

Exactly, this only reinforces 1:27 lmao this channel is a hit or miss, but mostly a miss.

[@davidconceicao4064]

And thats why i disliked within 10 secs of the video

[@Gwakari]

Switched from iPhone 12Pro to Nothing Phone 2 and I am satisfied like I never was with iPhones. Great device, fast, great build, looks good. For me it is great value for that money. The price of the new iPhone 15 Pro for example is absolutely indefensible in this comparison.Just the idea that I would pay twice the price for 15 Pro is nonsense.

[@eg8049]

Could have gotten the samsung s series, i recently bought it and cant believe how good the new sd 8 gen 2 is

[@cryptidv]

​@eg8049 the sd 8g2 is literally just 15-20% better than a 8g1. The difference, day to day, is negligible. Phones don't need to be stupidly powerful.

[@spongebobby188]

The dropping phone to comment on the sponsor was just lame...💯🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tudorhc5]

I think it's a great show of quality, the confidence in the sponsor's product to throw your personal phone on the ground to prove reliability

[@whysoserious4464]

​@@tudorhc5was kinda cringe

[@NathanStruzycki]

Okay so this kind of video is just bad. You are just speculating and focusing on things you find negative while not having any experience with any of those products (both Nothing or OnePlus). Here is a real take from someone with actual experience with both those products. I have been a big android user for years, from Samsung to nexus, to OnePlus to pixel, back to OnePlus and more. I was using OnePlus 8 pro when nothing Phone 1 released. Switched to Nothing phone 1 to check it out fully expecting to go back to OnePlus as it was a better phone spec wise. Never did, used the nothing phone 1 for the whole year because it just functions much better than the OnePlus. The camera was worse, the chipset was worse, heck the screen was worse but the software was so good and consistently getting improved with updates that it just felt faster, more responsive, cleaner, fresher and actually felt like a product that was actually evolving and improving over time compared to the oneplus which felt like every time a software update came out it became more sluggish and buggy or had some useless feature that nobody asked for. Oneplus released the 11 and i thought I'd wait to see what nothing did for phone 2. When the Phone 2 released, hardware wise I wasn't particularly impressed, i wont lie, but the phone 1 experience had been so refreshingly good that even comparing it to the OnePlus paper specs I trusted nothing to release something that would be a better experience than i had with oneplus in the past so i ordered the nothing phone 2 12GB/512GB variant. I have been using the nothing phone 2 for almost 2 weeks now. I can confidently say its a better experience than any other android phone i have used to this point other than the cameras, the cameras need work. The differentiator here is the software. This is why your spec sheet wrap list thing and with you not having used the phone fails you. The nothing software is next level optimised, there is no bloat, the design is great, the chipset breezes through everything you throw at it and the battery life is next level, I've even once had 12 hours screen on time in one charge. I use the phone for gaming (genshin impact and honkai star rail) and it never skips a beat, the changes to the interface are clean, classy, fresh and its just so responsive that its a joy to use plus I trust it to get better and better over time like the phone 1 did unlike the direction OnePlus has gone since merging os with colour os and adding a bunch of junk to the os over time. The spec sheet isnt what defines the phone in this case and without having hands on experience that is why you dont understand it. There are improvements to be made, camera being the primary one but nothing did make a bunch of meaningful improvements to the phone 1 camera via software updates over time and im hopeful for the same here but we will have to see how that goes, so far the first update improved low light performance but it still needs work. That being said, in my primary phone I'm looking for the best experience a product will give me. I like a clean stock smooth reliable phone and have always followed whatever company is providing me that which is why i went from samsung to nexus to OnePlus to pixel, back to oneplus and now finally with nothing atm. This is one of the best software experiences on a phone right now. Oh and as for the glyph stuff, its just nice to have, do I use it, sometimes, mainly the flip to glyph to silence the phone when im at dinner with friends and the glyph timer when I'm cooking something on the stove and want to have a visual indicator while im still chopping up other ingredients or have left to work on my pc, it just gives me an easy way to peek at it and know how much time I have left without picking up the phone, other than that its just kinda a unique feature that my friends ask about every now and then but I dont see it as a reason to get the phone or anything. Get the phone if you want a product that feels great to use, you want a fun, well designed, reliable and fresh take on android and you want to support a brand that is focusing on software and design to improve its products over time rather than just the best specs at the lowest price. Now someone with experience has told you what the hype is.

[@Bobrizzlerrr]

Facts honestly I'm glad you made this comment I agree 100%.

[@mickymac432]

One of the best genuine comments I’ve read on KZbin. Very thorough and true. It’s about time some reviewers stop being so negative and firing cheap shots over products and have nothing to back up their arguments. People are starting to realise and waking up these reviewers, and they are in danger of losing subscribers.

[@AbbaLang]

I also just got the Phone 2 and it has a great user experience overall

[@sebastiento9695]

Terrible value how? It has last year's flagship chipset and is definitely cheaper than phones with the newer chipset. Besides it offer a unique experience from anything we've seen before. Good or bad experience is up to you, but having a unique selling point with a top tier chipset and specs for it's price is better than good value.

[@kavinsuresh5468]

​@@mimo.store_7104its actually even more recent. It comes with last year's Quarter 4 chipset.

[@darshankustagiful]

Nothing much explained about phone 2 here . They did very well when it comes to software experience

[@SM-ih3go]

Everyone is finding faults in Nothing. It's has launched just two products. From an consumer's point of view it's great to have a new competitor in the market. Everything is not about hardware, software experience matters the most which Google has been providing with pixels. It's great to have an alternative with bloatware free software experience.

[@ericalister4301]

This.

[@victorralph8457]

Im not getting how this phone is terrible value at all. Sure its not amazing value but compared to pixel 7 at retail which everyone universally praised as great value this phone has a much faster and more efficient processor even if its technically not the newest chip, it has a bigger display (pro or con depending on preference) and smaller uniform bezels with a faster refresh rate and ltpo tech. Having used both phones the battery life is DRAMATICALLY better on the nothing phone in most cases literally double the sot for my use. Charging is 30-40 minutes faster to 100%. The cameras and haptics are considerably better on the pixel, but the camera on the nothing is reasonable for the price it just doesnt compete with the top dogs. Also forgot to mention the pixel lights itself on fire constantly and the cell reception+ fingerprint reader are unreliable at best. All that coupled with a fun unique design why wouldn't a tech enthusiast want to support a new brand so were not just stuck with Apple, Google and Samsung every year

[@Bx81m2A]

Pixel and the np2 Launch price 599 Pixel: ip68 Better overall camars 4k selfie camra (60fps as well) 5 years of security Np2: Ltpo 120hz vs 90... Bigger battery Design it's a preference Performance both flagship if 1 is better it's fine but just like the snap8 gen1 isnt the newest chip and Still preforming well that the same for the pixel Now pixel is offering more for the same price but oh no some pixel phones got issues 😢 Well just like you'r waiting for the Np2 camra to get better by updates so does pixel users Android 14 beta already helping and the experience is better Same goes for the nothing Overall for the same price pixel did it better

[@mikefox181]

The screen on nothing is better then pixel 7 and it runs better too and has 45w charging, better battery and smoother processor.. nothing 2 is way better

[@anishpatole7927]

Every KZbin reviewer who disses and nitpicks nothing devices, doesn't understand that it's a 2 year old company, let them breathe, let them settle down. It's not the yearly queue for some bitten fruit fanboy. I support uniqueness and relevant innovation instead of pushing out products because it's a tradition or a way to show the world that you are still relevant.

[@buttercreamcake]

Exactly...it's just it's 2nd phone 🤔 give the company time. I believe in what the owners are trying to do.

[@Normal_Texan]

@@buttercreamcake i agree. this is Nothing's second phone and people are already nit picking things. Why not show cons of the 14 pro and pro max.

[@netrunner1145]

so, because it is a 2 years company they can put garbage in the market? At that price range?

[@anishpatole7927]

@@netrunner1145 that's your perspective. Anyways what iPhone is doing is not less than garbage either, people are paying 1200 dollars too every year.

[@fighterinmkiwiscience3517]

​@@anishpatole7927iPhone is useless over price junk

[@angelmfbee]

I love mine. I wanted something different all phones are boring as hell.

[@DerUnbbekante]

First of all, I appreciate that this is one of the few videos that voice a critical opinion about the phone 2 but I think in the end it comes down to the personal definition of value. I don’t own a phone 2 but I am planning to buy one because my trusty OnePlus 5T is on its way out. Of course, the glyph is somewhat of a gimmick, but I like the notification led a lot and also place my phone often screen down on the table. Combining both doesn’t sound like a bad idea. I am a fan of (somewhat) stock android, what the Pixel could provide, but I just find the Pixel with this “bar” on the back unappealing. I know, it sounds superficial, but I don’t buy a phone that I consider ugly. On the other side, Samsung phones have also never appealed to me. Both my parents have been using Samsung phones for many years, but the software doesn’t appeal to me. The OP 11 could be considered as interesting but I have to assume that today’s OnePlus is not the OnePlus that I learn to love all those years ago. Plus, OP has licensing problems here in Germany and therefore can’t sell phones on the German market. It would be possible to buy it somewhere ells in the EU, but I don’t want to take the chance that my phone gets location locked randomly one day in the future. Plus, I don’t fancy buying a new phone from a Chinese company when alternatives exist. That’s my reason why I plan on buying the phone 2.

[@prateek1208]

Nothing is more about reliable software and looks as most people just don't care about performance

[@danielbarakat]

Yeah on a spec sheet, the oneplus seems better. But the moment you pick up a one plus, then a Nothing Phone 2 you'll realize that the Nothing Phone 2 is better in every way. This is one of those times you have to actually use the phones to know.

[@izzu_]

Is the iPhone still your daily driver ?

[@theworldisfunny8125]

LOL.... You should watch iPhone 14 vs NP2 speed test.

[@David-xt5ob]

Your video confuses me. The first half you say you don’t understand why someone would buy this phone over another that had better specs for a similar price. Then in the second half you outline all the reasons why someone would in fact by this phone. Design…. People will pay and even prioritise design over functionality. What’s so hard to understand that? It might be different to how you prioritise your purchases (which is fine) it doesn’t however mean another’s is wrong. Specially when you even say a lot of phones look the same, this phone stands out and spec wise you aren’t really going to notice in day to day performance. I think you answered your own question.

[@Samsonlilah]

I have a Nothing Phone 1. I was interested in getting a Nothing Phone 2, but Nothing have no interest in offering trade uns, and my Nothing phone 1 hasn't held it's value well at all. Coupled with lack of telephoto lens and ip68, i think ill be looking elsewhere soon.

[@whysoserious4464]

Lol poor guy didn't get every single feature he wanted in a phone

[@niveZz-]

4:20 the reason oneplus can sell for cheaper is 1. bcs they are a bigger company and can get the hardware for cheaper and bcs they don't spend nearly as much on software development also it's only chinese companies that have their own proprietary fast charging technologies which allow to charge at high wattages with good thermal management other companies simply can't match that (samsung, google, apple, ...) resolution doesn't rly matter (try to get as close to your phone that you can differentiate pixels, bet you're not going to be able to, this is something apple realized 10 years ago and they call it retina displays) same as "extended ram" this is sadly still used as a marketing gimmick today using more zram or swap than needed is literally just stupid it wears down your storage faster and increases cpu load

[@theworldisfunny8125]

799$ phone vs over 1000$ phone...👍

[@JETLWC0804]

The 90 likes on the video intrigues me.

[@Techvoyage777]

In the US u can get a op 10t for 399. Sure not the best cameras and other little things, but for 399, u get a lot of phone and a couple more yrs of updates

[@JuanCarlos-79]

The price is good for everything it offers, if you think that is the case, wait for the s23fe that will be costing $650 to $750

[@Bx81m2A]

U can find the s23 for 650 already ‏and it's way better

[@JuanCarlos-79]

@@Bx81m2A Where the s23 for $650? In addition, nothing's competition would be the s23 plus, which are even in size ✌️

[@commandoxbox3604]

with nothing you are paying also for a way better support for the device and a lot closer customer to company connecion, also you pay for a lot of design work and the only company that makes 1 phone a year and puts a lot of care into it (in android phones). in short you pay for having a company that actually cares. why care about what soc is inside they made 788g + in np1 perform way ahead of similar power chips and even the same one in other phones, making it almost flagship performance, why pay for brand new soc when hardly anyone will notice a diffrence and it will ramp up the price significantly, also gen 1 is way better with keeping lower heat and better optimized, company had way more time to work on it. this phone is great and way better than op11 with how good it feels to use everyday, way better ui, propably its battery will hold up way better as 80w charging is bad long term.

[@Tipko]

Not sure about the price difference in Canada but in Sweden a NP2 256gb costs about 8,5k sek as to 11k sek for OP11 5G. Thats about 310 Canadian dollars worth of difference. I have used several oneplus models since years but feel they've simply become too expensive

[@xxbryan2]

np2 great value.. oneplus 11 not so much..no matter how you put it the oneplus phone has lost fan base ever since oxygen os got replaced..phone has more issues that makes the experience take a toll..own both pixel 7 pro and np2 and ill say this the pixel is champ for camera and software but has some heat issues and connectivity issues that has made me switch to the np2 which as of this moment great battery life, software like a pixel and no issues with connectivity 5g always..camera is good cant complain..np2 with 256g and 12g ram..flat displays are superior to curved displays imo.

[@RafaelMurta]

I like your video, good job! Would you keep your opinion once we can now find NP 2 in the 12gb/256gb version for 675€ ? Thanks!

[@dudujosephsunny943]

One plus ? Really ? Not after Oppo took over ! It’s as unreliable as it gets. Just look at the display issues.

[@TrentonsTech]

The hype comes from the design and the price, also fan support of Carl Pei. Yeah until I use one it just seems to be OnePlus 2.0

[@valismind]

Yeah, feel the same way.

[@zaksaidi4769]

? They're so different to One Plus in my opinion. Nothing differentiates on brand. Whereas OnePlus broke through on price and product differentiation. Nothing targets a complete different set of consumers.

[@NathanStruzycki]

See my comment for an actual informed and experienced perspective.

[@chieflingco]

Definitely not Oneplus 2.0. Idk why there are comparisons of Nothing and OP. Literally 2 different companies with different beliefs of marketing their own products.

[@ParissaKhoury]

Unfortunately the Nothing phone 2 is NOTHING SPECIAL !!!

[@sad4nth873]

In the UK oneplus 11 is 100 pound higher and the back camera is just kinda disgusting

[@HemiLeo392]

Just another android phone that lights up on the back but I never lay my phone down on the screen anyways but it's aite

[@chieflingco]

Carl is not trying to bring back the sentiment of Oneplus. Nothing is doing something completely different from oneplus. He literally said it in the nothing phone 2 review video. You might wanna check your facts bro.

[@davercountingcigars]

Yo yo. “Nothing to see here “. 😂😂😂😂. Hope your well.

[@SjuuTuub]

With OnePlus 11 you get ColorOS... Nuff said 😂

[@TheTuareg]

I remember when I bought OnePlus 3T. It was cheap but great specs. What does this nothing phone have?

[@full---movie]

It has built in nagro-shock technology where any George Floyd who touches it gets F'd in the A with high voltage

[@TheTuareg]

@@mimo.store_7104 well maybe flashing lights in the back. That's all

[@Yestofun]

True but it’s a turn off to watch negative tech videos , I would suggest you fake happiness or smile through the whole thing if you choose this route. The viewers who will praise your authenticity for not selling out don’t make a huge audience plus they are toxic ! they will abandon you after 1 mistake.

[@mahmoodmaghsoodi5516]

Oooo You talk too much 😏🤐

[@glenn1964]

Seems like people like the terrible carnival ride on the smartphone. Carl should never left OnePlus. Yes, it is/was a hype. Chipset is a big plus !. If I get one for free, I will sell right away and buy the OnePlus 11 16+256 black. € 752 Euros in the Netherlands Europe. I know the OnePlus 12 is coming next year, but until now I am satisfied with my Realme GT Neo 3 T 8+256 black. Next year I will buy the OnePlus 11. Maybe, maybe the OP 12 if the price is right.

[@Robcadams1974]

My NP2 is outstanding especially when it comes to value

[@NEOMERCER]

Video actually starts at 2:20 lol.

[@steveandriyedlucas21]

Sorry i don't agree with you im not subscribing to someone who doesn't even see the genius behind the nothing phone

[@apex6186]

Yeah I get the OnePlus 11 5G is probably better, I just don't want a Chinese phone

[@flmnk3456]

They all come from China 😂😂

[@obijuan8735]

You talk about Value and you carry an Iphone Linguini

[@nacnacnacnacnacnacnacnac]

Not sure why its $800 in canada specifically. In the USA it’s only $600, and in the UK it might even be cheaper.

[@valismind]

You do know our currency is worth less than the US $ right? It works out to be the same after conversion

[@flylord4361]

I don't like apple. So why would you put that in your comparison at ALL.

[@valismind]

Unfortunately Flylord4361, not everything is about you.

[@flylord4361]

@@valismind Yea it's about idiots that give their money to big tech that controls the masses.

[@yabuking84]

You can never please everybody. For a 580 usd priced phone just the specs alone (8th gen 1 snap dragon 256 gig and 12 gig ram) is already reasonable.

[@garymills6854]

This chap is so negative about everything

[@oatsyentertainment]

Bro I totally agree

[@Abdullah-ou7bp]

Money talk’s

[@irondennis1]

it's nice to finally hear some cons about the phone, genuine too :)

[@Martin_Leyki]

I never lay my phone with display down. Transparent back is cool but the lights circus is unnecessery gimmick. And the phone is too big.

[@Aeonia92]

Can't imagine they made the phone 2 bigger than the first one 😮

[@fighterinmkiwiscience3517]

iPhone dinamic Island is also gimmicy. To hide hole

[@Salty_Biscuitz88]

All hype

[@valismind]

Pretty much, deserved hype though. Makes an interesting phone. But still.