The NYC Skyscraper that Sways in the Wind

[@UrbanistExploringCities]

Yes, the building’s design was literally directly inspired from Josef Hoffmann 1905 garbage can. Rafael Viñoly has publicly discussed this. 🗑️

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

How do they get all these charming ideas for metaphors?

[@omarvi280]

I don't think so: The 432 PA windows and the general design looks way too similar to the 1996 Torres Arcos Bosques I and II, by the Mexican Teodoro Gonzáles de Leon.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

@@omarvi280 I see your point

[@planespeaking]

no one lives there anyway, most have been bought as investments to wash money.

[@charsiu_808]

Hope it's not a trashy place!

[@bobstrempie9424]

Never live higher then the local fire department ladders can reach.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

Never live higher than a place where you can fall and die

[@thehutch7728]

Dang. That’s really smart! I don’t think that would have even crossed my mind. Thankfully I’m lucky enough to live in a house atm, but I’m keeping that in mind for when I move to assisted living. Lol

[@RayHikes]

Or learn to base jump 😂

[@markschuler1511]

That's an excellent point! 👏 With my extreme fear of heights there's absolutely no way I'd ever feel comfortable on anything above the 2nd floor. Even in(other people's)3rd floor apartments I can't even go out on the balcony.

[@kdizzystl]

Ha!

[@chriswhite3692]

"Your condo comes with a parachute." "Why?"

[@thomyg425]

😂😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼

[@DeezNuts-]

Your gonna need it pal

[@Moshie71]

😂😂😂😂 classic!

[@thehutch7728]

That’s a no from me, dawg. I get that it’s made that way, and there are safety features to help counteract the movement, but my nerves couldn’t handle that. 😵‍💫

[@miketaylor00]

Imagine getting around 50 people to go about 3/4 of the way up and have them run from one side of the building to the other back and forth. It would be like getting everyone in the back seat of your friends Toyota Corolla to lean side to side while he was driving back in highschool.

[@alidycepaisley3829]

I sure hope it takes more than that to get the thing to sway.

[@h8GW]

I felt the same going over the Walkway over the Hudson. I knew it was safe, but my nerves made me walk down the very center the whole time.

[@user-mz4hz6gi7c]

i woke up in a 52 floor onee morninng iin toronto in air bnb in i was feeling it sway and packed my shit and GTFO

[@DUTCHEE]

You should probably avoid bridges then. They’re designed to sway too😂

[@MrKarmapolice97]

I have heard no one wants to live there anymore, and some tenants have sued

[@problemchild170]

Sued for what

[@purplepheasant4776]

Sea sickness

[@AlphaQHard]

@@problemchild170 They bought an apartment that makes constant noise and feels unsafe whenever the wind blows. I mean, I doubt that was mentioned by the real estate agent and owner so suing makes sense.

[@itwasaliens]

​@@AlphaQHard bro the building was literally designed with technology meant to make it sway so much. You literally just have to look at the building to understand that it's gonna sway.

[@itwasaliens]

​​@@purplepheasant4776 so are you going to go on a cruise and then sue because you got sick when it encountered a storm? You gonna fly then sue because you're afraid of heights and turbulence?

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

I'm surprised the city doesn't have some kind of width to height restrictions, if this thing has even the slightest defect and ever falls over, thousands will die and cause billions of dollars in damages

[@28isagreatnumber]

It’s a luxury apartment building so I imagine money had a lotttttttt of influence.

[@apocalypticpioneers2116]

@@28isagreatnumber yeah and we saw what happened in Florida with that condo building

[@emzzzzz0998]

@@apocalypticpioneers2116 I agree with you but the one in Florida fell from it being old and not maintained properly.

[@evancook1770]

If I remember correctly, they used loopholes in the regulations to build a high building on a relatively small amount of land. Something about buying airspace rights or something.

[@zqpcydbfoqbdiehdj]

I like tall buildings, without it.. ny would be so boring. I’m pretty sure they knew what they were building.

[@jessierabbit]

Went to architecture school and know someone who lives in NYC. This building is widely hated and most of the professors at my school didn't like it either (there are some cool interior shots but of course it's all insanely expensive). The building had massive problems and has never been close to being fully occupied. Someone people even left after issues started showing. If memory serves right, there is a lawsuit happening between two parties involved (I feel like one of them was the tenant/former tenants but not 100% sure and this was at least a year ago I heard about this).

[@meto4837]

@@jessierabbit from what I understand, there was an agreement that developers can build buildings around central as long as it doesn’t form a shadow on the park. This building does. Also, most of the condos are empty because they’re owned by wealthy foreign investors that have no plan to use it, rather just wait for the value to go up.

[@jimoconnor6382]

Who needs Six Flags when you can live there?

[@manfromyard3143]

It comes with barf bags

[@jimoconnor6382]

@@manfromyard3143 Aw man, open the window and let it fly

[@matthewotremba9230]

Haaaaaaaaaaacoughcoughcoughweeeeeeeeeez

[@arinic7]

😂

[@purplepheasant4776]

Who needs a cruise...

[@juanmahabhari2807]

Structural Engineer who made that one deserves a credit.....

[@alexjohnstonjohnston5374]

As a Structural Engineer, I was going to make the same comment! I love an architect that challenges me, and I don’t want to crush their dreams, but ultimately they draw the building, and we (along with other disciplines) make it work. A good/great Architect works with us and pre-empts our needs and makes allowances for them. This isn’t always the case, even with the big names, on the big projects!

[@General-Eclectic]

Maybe, maybe not. It remains to be seen.

[@juanmahabhari2807]

let's not sensationalized there names because it is so very disgusting to hear only there accomplishments and neglecting /degrading other allied professions.....

[@RR-on4sk]

I would if they weren't being sued. don't think it's working out.

[@alexjohnstonjohnston5374]

@@RR-on4sk really? What’s happening? Is the building not performing as expected?

[@rickyparrilla2426]

I'm curious to know if that noise was an actual recording of the sounds the building makes when it sways.

[@chinajo555]

Hello Ariel. A pleasure to meet you the other day. Excellent short. My husband to me about this building and I have learned a few more things about it from your 👍🏾 Awesome

[@UrbanistExploringCities]

It was wonderful meeting you too! I’m so glad you and your husband enjoyed this short!! 🙌

[@Vopo64]

Imagine paying so much money for a home you can never feel comfortable in.

[@sergiofreitas9368]

Half of those super-slender buildings in NYC are empty precisely because they’re just an investment and a vanity piece, not a “real” house.

[@ShadowMoon878]

Tokyo skyscrapers also sways. That's why they are able to withstand Earthquakes and Hurricanes.

[@PeidosFTW]

All tall buildings sway, I'd say this one does way more

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

They sway because materials aren‘t completely rigid…

[@prasadsawant4153]

If they don’t sway then it’s a problem.

[@wizardmix]

Most people who buy units in this building and other buildings like it don't even live there. Many have never set foot inside the building nor do they intend to. These buildings are often constructed tax free because of "affordable" housing loopholes (look into the 421A exemption), some tax loopholes that treat these structures like smaller more affordable rental spaces and subsidies for public works/affordable housing done elsewhere by developers. In short, these condos are used as high liquidity, low maintenance, low taxed places to store wealth, otherwise known as "assets." No different than stock, rare art, automobiles, commodities, etc. The more you look into these structures, the more you'll realize they are bank accounts with high interest returns disguised as homes so who cares if they sway and make noise when they're 60% unoccupied? We need to stop looking at these places as though they follow poor and middle class logic. To a billionaire, this is a perfectly sensible way to keep their wealth stable and safe while they live much more discretely somewhere else.

[@mcarr4537]

Well stated 👍🏻

[@spirituality5272]

Correct 👏🏻

[@francesacoy4730]

SO SAD, money over ethics hurts HUMANITY.

[@THroneXII]

Shouldn't be a allowed god damn waste of space. If 60% in unoccupied

[@wizardmix]

@@THroneXII You struck the note. We allowed it. If "we" are many and "they" are far fewer, if we outnumber them in every single way, why do we allow ourselves to be duped, to be put against one another over meaningless wedge issues? To accept mediocrity? It comes down to how you choose to define power and when you realize that your perception is power. This isn't a call for violence, this isn't a call for revolt or vengeance or even justice. It's a reminder that more changes happen when hundreds of millions of people make a clear decision but nothing gets done when they hold one another in contempt.

[@matthewotremba9230]

The Twin Towers had Loads of sway As we would Metal frame for sheetrock We would wrap the tops and bottoms of each stud before placing them So the walls would stay silent and not Squeak and creak

[@gus473]

Didn't like going to the uppermost meeting rooms and restaurant, yet had to for business. The NYC 🗽 in my mind's eye will always have the Twin Towers.... 😎✌🏼

[@i-fart-n-elevators4610]

The twin tower at times had water sloshing in toilets on top floors

[@chrishansen5784]

What would you wrap the top and bottom of the metal studs with?

[@sylviaisgod6947]

​@@chrishansen5784 Thermite.

[@LouisHansell]

Vignoli has designed some other building with issues. Remember the London office tower that melted a car? That was due to the Sun reflection. He also designed a hotel in Las Vegas that reflected the Sun onto the pool area, making it uninhabitable. Same-same with a building in Brazil. And maybe the worst concert hall for any major orchestra in the world is the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia. Yes, Vignoli.

[@agus9807]

Seems like he is not such a good architect after all

[@Leo-sd3jt]

If I remember correctly, there's lawsuits going on against the developers due to the building not being built to the architectural specs

[@ShakespeareCafe]

During a seismic event (yes, NYC has earthquakes) it's going to sway like a metronome until something snaps

[@juliet1774]

I used to work on the 38th floor of 388 Greenwich (the umbrella bldg/Travelers downtown). The creaking noises the building made from swaying during windy/stormy days was very disconcerting.

[@michaeljarosz4062]

The creaking in Manhattan office towers is not what most people think. As an architect who has 40+ years' tenant fit out experience in NYC, I have encountered and solved this problem. It is caused by the rigid sheets of gypsum drywall (GWB) used in most interior partitions. A GWB partition consists of two tracks, securely fastened to the floor slab and the underside of the overhead slab. Upright metal studs are inserted into the tracks but are only fastened to the floor track. When the building moves in the wind, the studs are free to slide in the upper track. Likewise, the GWB is fastened to the floor track and studs, but not the upper track. For additional flexibility, the top each stud can be wrapped in electrical tape to increase its ability to slide in the track by reducing friction. IF the partition was rigidly attached to the upper track, the rigid GWB would creak and moan due to its inability to move with the building structure. It's an expensive detail but it solves the problem. BTW: Most high-rise structures are engineered to move, just like the wings of an airplane flex. Perfect rigidity is difficult to achieve and would make the construction prohibitively expensive. And then there's movement caused by thermal expansion ................!

[@everythingcollectibles]

I’m not getting charged an arm and a leg just for the potential for me to not being able to use my other arm and leg anymore.

[@christophermyers3758]

NO, THANK YOU! I saw it on my first trip to NYC in 2017, and OMG, it is F*****G TALL! I walked by it at night, and very few lights were on? Guess all the "part time" residents were gone? 🤣 The strange thing I noticed, was while walking around mid-town and the Upper Eastside, it was "always there" like it was "following me"! 😳 🏢 On my next visit plan to revisit, and sit in the little "park" in front and pretend that I LIVE THERE! 😎

[@evancook1770]

Nobody lives in the tall, skinny luxury buildings. Most of them are owned by the shell corporations of millionaires and billionaires for whatever purposes (tax reasons, assets, money laundering, etc). You could fit probably hundreds of units in them if they were designed for the general population. Sad.

[@thehutch7728]

“Always there like it was following me” made me LOL😂 it’s kind of like the moon in that regard, I suppose.

[@mariano7699]

Monalisa's swing Tower

[@anneoboyle8447]

I'm seasick from just watching that beautiful building swaying...🌊🌬️🌀🌪️🌊

[@chrismcdaniel3367]

Your HAIR is sooooo BEAUTIFUL! AND, that voice.....YES!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@joseyeastwood]

There is no way i would live in any of those skyscraper apartments in NYC.

[@RexGalilae]

Everyone there needs to buy life and home insurance

[@maryanne1367]

It’s the future…the Jetsons have predicted

[@None-zc5vg]

Everyone there should have their heads examined

[@griffin8062]

Everyone who lives there is so rich they probably don't care

[@dukecraig2402]

Till it falls over and your insurance company tells you they won't pay because you didn't buy wind insurance.

[@RitaMalikfour]

It’s not just living in the building g, it’s everyone near it that can be harmed when it falls,, and or burns, this is so dangerous to every human in that city

[@blushdog]

Be like Japan, build thick skyscrapers with humongous floor plates

[@Brownboymagic69]

The space between the floors are mechanical spaces. NYC has height restrictions on residential properties but mechanical space floors do not count towards the restrictions. So to build taller buildings they spread out mechanical spaces to get a taller building

[@bobdobb9017]

“but the building might be unstable.” -“If you want the architecture job, you build me a tall skinny building, period.”

[@davidmontgomery8938]

My last two offices in NYC, which are in the 40 story range, both make noise in wind storms. It's not that big of a bother for me as I don't sleep there, but I would be very curious to hear how loud this building is during a storm

[@robertkomanec2028]

In San Francisco, we have the Millennium Tower , 301 Mission St., which is 58 stories. It began leaning a couple years ago. Engineers tried shoring it up, but it is still leaning. The condo owners are losing their investments, and the building is endangering the surrounding neighborhood.

[@caspianblue4141]

This explains why NYC had so many empty flats they can't sell or rent. You could not pay me to live in a building like that.

[@LelandMaurello]

Hell to the no I would not live there! Sounds scary. I wonder how long it WILL stay up? Our engineering is pretty fantastic... but this is plain stupid. No wonder few people live there. They buy apartments for the 'investment' potential.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

I'm sure on the brochure they listed "potential death" as a characteristic of the purchase. I heard people who use the trash shoot hear it all the way down.

[@MrBmxbrawler]

I love your channel. Keep the information coming!

[@Dogsnark]

Looks like the “NO”s have it. I’ll add my own. Yikes, no!

[@funnyblooperreels7135]

I would need two things to live there (1) Free Rent for life (2) A parachute. That's it!

[@jimmiller5600]

cheapest unit on the market is $6m. And $7k per month fees.

[@NATALIEKING1976]

First, hell no I wouldn’t live there! Secondly, your curly hair ROCKS!!!!

[@joetraveler5609]

😂😂😂

[@korana6308]

I love curly hair on women , but he is a man... so I can't appreciate it😥

[@presspound7358]

Now just imagine being the new owner(s) of a multimillion dollar unit and not being able to fall asleep because of immense creaking noises. Imagine being stuck in one of the elevators because the automatic shut down circuits got tripped because the winds are misaligning the shafts. Now THAT’S buyers remorse. Lol.

[@kennixox262]

The elevators have problems during heavy winds and either get stuck or shut down. The sounds of the cable slapping and wind noises inside the shafts. There have also been major water leaks.

[@muddypalmsera]

They say "9-11 never forget", but still live/work above the 4th floor.

[@nightfall22]

I learn so much watching this channel and I say hell no 85% of the time😂

[@jessicanaan3284]

Not only is it a liability, but it also lacks symmetry. Sticks out like a sore thumb. Why was it allowed??

[@pointsur67]

Greed

[@richiejohnson]

Love your channel. Thank you.

[@tmf866]

The World Trade Center used to sway in the wind. People who used to work too high up used to sometimes get seasick, and many tenants of upper floors who had offices elsewhere would offer to transfer out people who got too sick there.

[@crazycatmom420]

This building is literally what my nightmares are made of the only nightmares I have or being in a tall building that is falling over falling apart collapsing I think it's like PTSD from being young but old enough to understand what was goin on and going thru 9/11

[@michaeldoldron8444]

The bigger question is, Would you like to live in The Bronx , New York next to the (95) Interstate HWY and The Bronx river ParkwayParkway? Where can get a loud sound hearing of the whistling of those truck's, buses, cars and 24/7 speeds of 55 MPH and over.

[@PSMCR69]

If it is Free of Rent I will certainly Live here

[@mariano7699]

It's own collapse could take few expensive steps

[@t-babyoutthere6768]

What floor?

[@bettymarshall615]

HECK NO! THAT IS INSANE!! WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE FOR BUILDING SUCH S HIGH TALL BUILDING!!😂😂😂

[@rossjohnson1872]

Like the Titanic, just because we can build it, should we really? Looks unsinkable for now.

[@Owyourhurtingme]

I would love to hear those creaky sounds during high winds. Those sounds let you know the building is performing as it should against stress.

[@imawesome1822]

If the developer and architect are nervous . Then it can’t be good

[@ethanol1586]

Imagine paying millions upon millions of dollars to live in a giant toothpick

[@mistert7958]

TENS of millions !!!

[@billwilson-es5yn]

The skyscrapers are built to sway some in high winds. We used to visit the John Hancock building in Chicago when the wind was gusting so we could see white caps in the toilets on the Observation decks restrooms.

[@georgesheffield1580]

There is a sky scraper in Mexico city that is designed to sway in earth quakes and wind . Very successful . Cant feel the sway during an earth quake . . Been there since the mid 1960's

[@nicholasgade2288]

I would try it out but not buy without.

[@JoseRodriguez-en8bo]

Not only is it a resonating no but it's hard for me to believe people (in their right minds) really do live and pay an astronomical rent rate! WTF?!

[@marryfrank2968]

Very Nice 👌👌👌

[@emzzzzz0998]

You don’t even have to ask me if you saw my face you would know…the answer is H to the No. 😂

[@lainechange1765]

Same I know I just said "No" out loud

[@patricksanders858]

No. You'd have to pay for the tickets and hotel suites when there were any storms.

[@ValeriaVincentSancisi]

hell no!

[@mikebee224]

This building is an eye sore blocks my view of downtown

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Isn't that kind of the reality of NYC? There are tall buildings everywhere blocking the view of some other part of the city.

[@mikebee224]

Not if you live in the outta boroughs

[@reginaldgarner4321]

@Mike Bee, how about a move to New Jersey?

[@reginaldgarner4321]

You think that it's so unattractive that it's an eyesore? Just because it blocks your view really doesn't make it an eyesore.

[@mikebee224]

@@reginaldgarner4321 I did bro . The commute the cost it makes sense to live in NYC for now. I got hit with double taxes. End up owning 1500 to Uncle Sam.Jersey is a northern state with a southern attitude in my opinion. I rather go to Texas. Next stop

[@Quickcat21MK]

The reports of that noise is whats called “static fatigue”. That building is not safe. If its making them noises.

[@SupremeSupervillain_]

Love this channel..

[@Ottbucket]

I wouldn't live there. Not because of the building. Because it is NYC. Safer in that building than on the streets.

[@carson9903]

NYC is relatively very safe. Unless your comparison is a gated community in the suburbs lol

[@Ottbucket]

That's my point. It used to be [statistically] THE safest major city in US. And is now, needlessly, relatively unsafe. Defunding cops and sanctuary city status have brought it to its knees. I do not live in a gated community. I live on the Delmarva Peninsula near Ocean City, MD.@@carson9903

[@IAM963HZ]

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@jiminykripes4937]

Pretty smart putting those windows that allow the wind to blow through the building.

[@rickyparrilla2426]

A Japanese man bought a whole floor above the 80th floor and paid an obscene amount of money for it. With all the problems I've been told this building is having he will never get back what he paid for and I believe it was way over 20 million. That amount of money could feed a starving country. It's sickening!!!

[@delucas66]

Meanwhile his other building at 125 Greenwich St is sitting there half finished and abandoned for years smh

[@thomasromano385]

My sister had her prom at windows on the world at the trade center in 2000. Said the building swayed the whole time.

[@metropolitaninteriorsnyc]

Have you been inside the building during storm? ;)

[@jamesmendoza5097]

Imagine there's a power outage. Elevators breaks down then you go up and down via stairs 🤣.

[@mariano7699]

Monalisa's swing Towers . How do they get all these 💡ideas for metaphors ?

[@richardlim2518]

hi Ariel, Thanks for another interesting architectural short (video). The "windows" in between floors usually houses the building's mechanicals. They are exempted from the city's FAR (floor area ratio) constraints and hence allow the building to be constructed taller than if they weren't design with these "windows" (also known as mechanical floors).

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

I once met someone who worked in the Twin Towers. She said they swayed in the wind too.

[@ireneerrico4706]

And toilet water would sway counter clock wise.

[@pointsur67]

Is this the building where the elevators would get stuck or stop working during storms and high wind? Imagine being stuck on the top floors in an elevator for several hours...😩😩😩😩

[@natewilson111]

Living there while it sways sounds like a recurring nightmare I have...

[@chickey333]

So what will the next era of radicalized space saving building concepts going to resemble... structures tied in knots swaying in the breeze?

[@randy_hawkins]

I wonder if there's some way to 'grease the squeaky wheel' as it were, at the sources of noise heard from the building swaying so much in the wind. 🌬

[@z-mackdos6echo311]

Live there? No! I’ve already served my time in the navy where on board one ship my compartment was in the forecastle, and and night in rough seas and rattling metal it was amazing to find out that I could eventually sleep through it. But why go through it now, if I don’t have to?

[@METALKILLSemosNpunks]

Was on the 95th floor for several months doing electrical work. The views are incredible

[@mistert7958]

For that "two weeks" job ?

[@jermainesmith1333]

This building has issues from the start, I spent about 3 months on location doing 12hr shifts of purging the natural gas.

[@dkpqzm]

Yeah I would live there, but I wouldn't pay 25-100 million dollars for an apartment in a building that can't stay still.

[@MarkHenstridge]

If that building is swaying that badly in the wind then stress fractures will occur over time. If stress fractures happen and they are ignored(costs), well it would just snap.

[@amandah.2688]

Love this gentleman's technical knowledge

[@frodeegas519]

That is a strange building indeed, hard to get the nerve to live there... Constant risk and it would not give us any mental peace! How did you find it man! Good job!!

[@user-nx4pq1ly5l]

Why there's an introduction of the damper of Taipei 101,when you guy talking about skyscrapers in New York ?

[@wildgoosedreaming1]

Wondering if there is a lot of stress damage accumulation.

[@bigel7393]

Fuck I would not live there. New York can be just as windy as Chicago.

[@ronnierodriguez7841]

New York is more windy than Chicago although latter is called The Windy City 🤗

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

​@@ronnierodriguez7841 Not even close to true, Chicago is far far windier because of multiple reasons like the area it is located in the mid section of America, and they always get northern wind where its really frigid.

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

I don’t understand why something like that was even allowed to be built

[@ashenmoonclash]

I still can't imagine what would happen to New York city if a e5 hurricane or f5 tornado hit it. Complete destruction with all these micro towers now.

[@W2mNm]

Would I? 😳🤣 I think my reaction speaks for itself lol.

[@Calrad]

I've heard after 9/11 that current and new buildings must have parachutes after the 10th floor.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

What's amazing is that this building looks quite thick or broad compared to the Steinway tower at 111 West 57th st which has a height to width ratio of 24/1!!!

[@conniecharley5013]

I have been in a building that swayed 16th floor where a family member loved very scary .was told building has spring like whatever underneath to keep it from falling. I could not stay long enough was enough for me in high building swaying.

[@robertvasquez4602]

I'm from NewYork an no I would not lice there. Why even build such a risky project what if the building comes crashing down . The damage and death that's going to happen is just crazy.

[@onYaFace2023]

love your vids... as a delivery person... love my city and learn the story behind it

[@mateosabando]

how is it 432 park av if it's not on park av?

[@acayette]

After 9/11, I would and will never live in any building that has more than 3 floors.

[@Ash_G]

Is this the building which has the 7½ floor? (Ref: Being John Malkovich).

[@robertc3172]

The company I worked for in 2014 supplied all the concrete. We pumped 14k(psi) . I know it hard to tell, but that’s white concrete. We had a special silo that had white cement that was added in place of traditional gray Portland cement.