The Odin 2 Mini is here! ..and it's a smaller Odin 2!

[@JoeysRetroHandhelds]

Hey all! Quick comment. Because of how bright the Mini's screen is, a lot of parts might look blown out especially when another device is right next to it. It was super difficult to capture two devices with way different brightnesses, but I can tell you that in person, it's not blown out at all, merely a camera and ISO issue.

[@agamaz5650]

my bro it is really that worse than an oled?

[@dokferr]

How is it compared to Odin 2 screen, better or worse? Because looking from your video, it's looked wash out.

[@geggyboy1269]

​@@dokferr His answer is literally in the comment you replied on.

[@dokferr]

@@geggyboy1269 I want to know his conclusion, which one he prefer. I only have Odin 2. If I also have Odin 2 Mini in front of me, I'll make my own conclusion, not gonna ask other people.

[@geggyboy1269]

@@dokferr Ah, I see.

[@josh6499]

S23 Ultra performance for $340 is pretty amazing!

[@QuantumChrist]

Yup, cause most of s23 price goes to High end camera and best Screen display ever created.

[@netnomad47]

Spongebobs voice: "I don't need it.. I don't need it.. I don't need it.."

[@metalliholic]

"I NEEEEDDD ITT!!!!!"

[@veloxsterinkognito7512]

Be careful, Spongebob!

[@deflash]

If you have odin 2, yep

[@eyeofterra]

Wait for new Switch. Obviously better value.

[@xxneroxxx4996]

@@eyeofterra Nobody cares someone looking at this is looking for an android console obviously

[@shawn4451]

Was checking KZbin everyday for an early review. Love this!

[@BruLeeArts]

Buying it for the Vita form factor with the performance, screw the haters. Vignetting is well known on new gen Macbooks and doesn't bother the majority of the population so it shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Though I'll say if you have an Odin 2 already, you probably wouldn't need this other than novelty.

[@geggyboy1269]

I think the thing about MacBooks is they have bigger screens. Of course, I 100 percent agree with you don't get me wrong, but I can see why others wouldn't like the vignetting. The Odin 2 Mini has a pretty small screen, so that only makes vignetting more noticeable. Of course that's not a big deal to me though. I'm happily awaiting mine. 😁

[@M_CFV]

Tons of games have forced vignetting anyways. Granted, I mod it out every time. But barely anyone goes through the hassle of doing that

[@cyberspacedweller637]

Lower battery and sound not being as good from what I heard in the test, will stick with the Odin2

[@geggyboy1269]

@@cyberspacedweller637 Well of course if you already have an Odin 2, I don’t recommend getting a Mini. That would sort of be a waste of money.

[@cyberspacedweller637]

Well, I was considering selling the 2 for the 2 mini for the mini LED screen, but the above kills it for me.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

Joey beat ETA Prime to a 1st look video Congrats, I like your opinions better because your honest. ETA is more of a showcaser, he will mostly highlights just the good stuff and not the bad

[@nickentros]

Look at our boy Joey

[@BarniDeDino]

True, but i do still enjoy ETA's videos purely because of how happy he seems to show off every product he gets

[@ohseasons]

Joey must be like “yeahhhhh eta, and retro game core can suck it 🤭” nah

[@OC.TINYYY]

That's because he gets to keep it lol, and also why he reviews tons of overpriced Chinese crap. He wins either way. ​@@BarniDeDino

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

@@BarniDeDinoI think he does something to his voice post production to make himself sound like that.

[@franciscobutte]

10:32 The regular Odin 2 screen really shines on that section of the video.

[@mauriciomorales2408]

Thought the EXACT same thing and made me feel better about just receiving my Odin 2 pro and not getting the Mini

[@08esco]

Yes but the screens look worse on Video than they do in reality. I bought a lot of handhelds and almost everytime the screens looks very bad on Videos but in reality they look great

[@mauriciomorales2408]

@@08esco haha true I have many handhelds and always am pleasantly surprised when I have them in front of me. Just trying to tell myself that the Odin 2 pro I just got is better so I don’t buy the Mini lol

[@Arxgxmi]

the video is literally focused on it, when shooting you have to choose between the quality of one over another, the odin 2 mini looks worse here due to a lack of very good HDR on this particular camera, it looks overexposed because it has more contrast than the screen it is focused on, which has less. the mini looks way better.

[@RueLangston]

Kinda unrelated but good god i'm glad we agree that the "just buy a steam deck bro" crowd is the most annoying part of this community. Just let people buy what they want man 🤣🤣🤣

[@koi-et7lw]

Fr they swarm most of the handheld review just to say that

[@WheeledHamster]

That shit is large as hell and a 720p screen is trash.

[@agamaz5650]

@@WheeledHamster low res content looks better though on the 720p oled, even anime in 2015 was still rendered in like 720p, and tbh I wish Ayn Odin 2 Mini also had 720p screen but I agree with the original steam deck screen and it is way too large

[@ninjason57]

@@WheeledHamsterit is large but the oled 800p screen is good.

[@novantha1]

I absolutely love my Steamdeck OLED...But I also absolutely love the look of this, and I'd be jealous of anyone who said they were buying one.

[@solidust573]

Joey left everyone at the starting gate with this one. Everything else seems to be sleeping at the wheel today 🤣 good stuff! 👍

[@DrNZodd]

Im glad to finally see a video about this. I was one of the first 200 to order for the $30 coupon. Grabbed the mini pro model. Cant wait. I have the Odin 2 Pro and as much as I love it, it's still a little too big to bring with me when I go out. My biggest worry was honestly thermals. Vignetting doesnt bother me, only really notice it if im looking for it. Great first impressions video, looking forward to the full review!

[@pspsmallz]

So tempted to order one. The vita design is easily my favorite horizontal form handheld and a slighty bigger version is very appealing.

[@agamaz5650]

I am so sad by the negative comments, thanks for this video I am grateful.

[@KyleRuggles]

WHOA! You got it!!!! First time I'm seeing it! Let's see!

[@samsungfan1982]

Awesome!!! Been waiting all week for this!

[@Dia1Up]

Thank you for actually talking about the Mini-LED acreen properly

[@nullgator8073]

Be sure to check winalator ram usage since that's a currently emerging frontier and isn't super widely tested

[@TakunHiwatari]

This is looking like that balance between power and portability that I've been waiting on. Just hope the temps don't end up being a deal breaker for me.

[@juniorelizondo4144]

How are the Temps and battery? Those seem to be the two that hold it back a little.

[@LandonElsberry-if3rh]

Thermals may change since that is an early build model also. I'm very excited about a smaller Odin 2 and the fact that it resembles a vita is just MWAH! *chef's kiss*

[@ezhumbug]

THIS. Is what Sony should've done for the Psvita with built-in LR2 triggers and the size being good!

[@mattdavis9601]

An excellent first look at the Odin2 Mini. Today I learned that the "g" in vignetting is silent. I've only ever read the word; I've literally never heard it spoken aloud before. See, you're both entertaining and educational. IRT the handheld itself; none of my priors have really changed. It looks great, it runs great, and it seems to be pretty well built. The only knock I have so far, and it's a new one discovered thanks to this video, is that the speakers are more lackluster than the person that replaced Don Cherry. The full size Odin2 sounded excellent on my end, so, I don't know what's up. I look forward to your full review. Congrats on being one of the first to get this handheld. It should be a real boon for your channel, and you deserve all the subscribers.

[@washuai]

Technically, there is a slight pronunciation, it shouldn't be a totally flat vin vs vign and it affects the pronunciation of the n after the g, but both are accepted. Silent is the easiest way to think about it, because you don't want a solid g or j sound.

[@SpiffyHandhelds]

Great coverage Joey! So excited for this one. Looks AYN really nailed it.

[@PC-ONE]

I'm glad that the "I'm Joey" is back :)

[@soloistcool]

Great Work man!! Thanks a lot for releasing the video so quickly after the arrival!! Hope you have a great rest of your weekend!

[@Drivenby]

The screen might need more software tweaking. . Mini led is not OLED but a high quality miniled panel is ALMOST as good contrast wise , saturation etc . The black levels of the mini led should be very near oled as well. Also doesn’t have any of the side effects of oled : no burn in and typically much brighter

[@geggyboy1269]

Thank you so much Joey! Love your video!

[@oW0LFP4CKo]

Yesssss!!!!!! So glad to see this you have no idea!

[@babynugget706]

Your intuition is on point, there was another video doing a Latency test comparison between the Odin 2 and Odin 2 Mini (By ChemicalBurrito) and the difference is an average of 12ms of delay difference. The Odin 2 Mini is in fact more responsive by 12ms.

[@diegovillamagua4656]

Very helpful first impressions. Glad you were the first to get this handled.

[@hadouken2123]

Regarding vignetting… i think the white model with the white bezel will make it more noticable

[@vosi88]

Already looks too noticable for me.

[@cyberspacedweller637]

Possible it shows up much more on a camera than in reality.

[@codered7070]

Amazing overview, thanks for putting this together!

[@felipesqr]

Looking awesome! To me the best part here is how it compares to the retro pocket 4 at 5:30! Interesting to hear that the ergonomics are not terrible and about the thermals (I expected it to be worst with less space, still far from throttling) so looking very promessing

[@wyattalexander4041]

Really appreciate that I found your channel recently your in my top 3 and love that there is a first look finally very excited to hear your honest thoughts !

[@oW0LFP4CKo]

Yesssss!!!! You have no idea how glad I am to see this!!!! Please do look more into your heat concerns as you said, as that was definitely one of my biggest concerns as well. And I appreciate your take on the display. Vignetting aside, it looks gorgeous and great for on the go use. I'm glad to hear it's comfortable and has some heft while still being small. Could you please also go over the touch aspect of the screen? Is it responsive and accurate for mobile games that utilize touch? Thanks so much for your awesome impression vid!!!!

[@Djura00]

Dont mind me, imma be watching this on loop until the review comes out

[@InuGamiac]

Loving the first impressions, thank you for the video!! Everything looks and sounds great so far, will wait for your thermals judgement tho for the proper review!

[@HybridWes]

Thank you Joey! I recently got my Odin 2 but love tech so I was curious about this.

[@ScottyNelson-d2w]

Great video...... very good first impression on stuff we actually needed to know as we didn't need to see all the emulation for this.

[@Zx7o.]

During the full review you should really touch on using Winlator, I've been playing through Fallout 3, NV and 4, and I'm even playing through all 3 Dead Space games and a bunch of other games. Also look at ship of harkinian and 2 ship 2 harkinian for native android ports of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask with a bunch of quality of life improvements, like true widescreen, full 60 FPS and debug menu while in game and the ability to use 3DS textures on the N64 versions of Oot and MM...

[@washuai]

You've been playing these on what SoC, RAM?

[@jorgedelgado5231]

I've been waiting for this review. Let's go.

[@MikJames-d1g]

Lack of ghosting makes sense. With the miniLED layer they can essentially rely on it for contrast, setting the display itself to a low contrast mode which helps eliminate ghosting. No idea how they managed to cram 384 zones into such a small form factor at this price.

[@HOUSTONERS420]

"just buy a steam deck bro" literally every handheld thread on reddit asking for any sort of reccomendation 😁

[@MrREAPERsz]

As a steam deck lover myself I'll probably get this for the form factor

[@brosplit]

Reddit is valve's dick rider. If you have the money, buy whatever the fk you want

[@wildercerrate7295]

Want a small form factor? Get this, want a switch like computer? Get a steam deck. Me personally I just want the ultimate handheld emulator in a small form factor. The size of the rg35xxH and the 405m that anbernic sells for me is like the perfect sizei

[@RetroGamerAJ]

Great video as always Joey! Love your content.

[@outrowender]

I have a 14” MacBook Pro and vignettes were never a problem for me

[@Stafa64]

Yeah vignetting is no problem to me. Just grabbed it off your link. You're the man, Joey!

[@jzeroradio]

i’m just excited for when the steam deck powerful profile can fit into a form factor like this

[@JaviPlayRetro]

Letsss goooo Joey got it first 🎉🎉🎉

[@cho-v4n]

Great first impressions buddy. You already have my address so whenever you're ready... 🤣🤣🤣

[@dokferr]

I must admit, I almost bought Odin 2 Mini, although I already have Odin 2 Max. I always prefer small handled over the big one. But after some consideration, the only handled I also need for now is the soon to be released RG Cube, for 1:1 ratio. Perhaps I'll just wait for another version with OLED display.

[@JiggityJiggity]

absolute awesome sauce

[@mikeyneeley]

So tempted to replace my RP4 Pro with this.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

I'm using it to play the games the RP4P can't, loll

[@fightnight14]

RP5 Bro much better than this

[@HardcoreTanoshii]

Great video Joey!

[@08esco]

I ordered one yesterday please make lots of Videos about this Device. It would be cool if you Livestream on KZbin so we can ask you stuff about the device.

[@tigersnakegaming5530]

If the mold is going to be exactly the same as the Odin2, those smudges aren’t going away.

[@steamdeckknights8978]

Yep I'll be ordering this over the Ayaneo pocket s.......thx!!

[@steverix8181]

Waiting for an OLED Odin. I'm just too used to OLED panels these days and have been spoilt with Switch OLED, Steam Deck OLED and LG OLED TV.

[@washuai]

Eh, I'd rather not have the burn in and play outside. For the price, you'd think it'd have one of the miniled that make it much closer to OLED, but I guess all the money is going for the SoC and profits

[@steverix8181]

@@washuai OLED and burn in, it's not a thing in real world usage. For burn in to occur you need to display the same content for literally hundreds of *days*. I guess if you play outside all of the time this pretty much the only handheld that will somewhat allow that. But, look at that vignetting at 10:37, it's absolutely awful and very clear to see in an in game situation.

[@caramelzappa]

d pad placement is unfortuantely an immediate dealbreaker in what otherwise would be one of my favorite choices. Butting the dpad down there means d-mad centric games will be unplayable uncomfortable. That's too bad.

[@jased8727]

This the one..finally.

[@cyh4940]

Carefully see the input latency 1 frame by 1 frame, the mini is really response faster than the odin 2. I'll buy it.

[@jeremy__hopkins]

It's unfortunate AYN couldn't get whatever magic was in the Pimax Portal QLED screen in the Odin 2 mini. Not like that screen was flawless either but a decent competitor to AMOLED, at least to my eyes, where I'm not bothered by the difference. Odin 2 mini seems like a fine option with a nostalgic form factor but for now I'm still okay with my AMOLED devices. Really only thing missing with both the Odin products for me is screen but considering the Android emulation scene has slowed down, I don't mind waiting. Thanks for the heads up!

[@marcushopkins2290]

"Ayaneo Pocket Air, for the five of us who own one"😂😂

[@EliasPfaiffer]

I get my Odin 2 Max on monday and I am the happiest person in the world!!! that was simply my GRAIL and now the time has come. i can hardly believe it :) And the best thing is that I only paid 400 euros / 430 dollars including the bag!!! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@JohanMGO]

You'll be hella happy. I own the Odin 2 max and I can't put it down

[@EliasPfaiffer]

@@JohanMGOhell yea, I'm going to be so happy! but hey...why u “put it down” ? for what? with the Odin 2 you should play for what feels like 12 hours a day and never put the baby down! I don't understand your last sentence at all... please explain that to me :)

[@JohanMGO]

@@EliasPfaiffer I meant I can't put it down lmao sorry. Let me edit that

[@EliasPfaiffer]

@@JohanMGO hahaha nice one!! have fun mate!!

[@JohanMGO]

@@EliasPfaiffer I have been playing game cube, ps2 and wii with no issues

[@BrianKeeganMusic]

I like the larger screen of the odin 2 and to me it just seems more ergonomic. I don't think the newer screen is a deal breaker, an IPS is totally fine. I also like that the Odin 2 has better battery and runs cooler. I could see the advantages of the mini namely for the screen and portability, but I think there are too many trade offs for it to be worth it.

[@xelthos2051]

Neat, but I already have the odin2 in clear blue and I'm happy with it.

[@DereksPixeltorium]

Just when I got the gpd win4! lol

[@washuai]

Odin 2 clearly would outlive the mini in my 46C+ summer highs environment. But the mini would actually be more pocketable and visible under that intense sun. 🤔

[@josephfaircloth8322]

The battery will be the deciding factor. Losing over a third of the battery *capacity* will be a pretty noticeable difference compared to the Odin 2. That’s before even considering the thermals from the device getting smaller and thinner.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

But the chip in the 2 mini is far superior to the one in the Odin 2 power optimization wise

[@MilesPrower-wy6lt]

I need to see them both run same game same settings and see the bat life

[@agamaz5650]

@@MilesPrower-wy6lt yesssss

[@rickyboy715]

​@@fillerbunnyninjashark271it's the same chip as the odin 2

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@rickyboy715 it's been multiple years since that chip was made. The fabrication is not the same. The current chips are more efficient

[@xxGSII]

@0:30 that was a close call 😂.

[@JoeysRetroHandhelds]

Shh, you saw nothing!

[@decegrease]

Yeah, it's a good device, but I'm much happier with the Odin 2 I bought last month. Better ergonomics for me, much larger battery, better thermals, bigger screen. The Vita form factor and mini LED screen aren't big enough draws for me to buy a more expensive device with more cons in areas I prioritize

[@agamaz5650]

mini led gets so bright buddy

[@decegrease]

@@agamaz5650 I don't play outside, not really an issue for me. I keep brightness below half on most of my devices in most scenarios because I dont like super bright screens. The standard odin 2 has way more benefits that aren't outweighed by a marginally better screen

[@agamaz5650]

@@decegrease the contrast is probably a lot better tho but awesome you are happy with ips that shit drew me nuts

[@sTuPiDiScOoL_]

This looks lit brother i actually regret selling my vita watching this 😂😂 sold it last year Did manage to order a rg28xx yesterday tho hoping it comes with a decent sd card + all doom games+ portmaster acces preloaded coz im screwed if it doesn't mate im autistic and have learning difficultys aswell so downloading and putting knulli or muos and downloading doom wads and games without also downloading a virus it's quite risky for an idiot like me 😆 hope your good bro 🏆💚👊

[@roc6d]

Great video man

[@wesphoenix5]

So excited now, thanks for the early impressions. Vignette isnt a deal breaker for me but is it know if this can be tweaked through software to minimise it?

[@CellPhish]

Great review

[@LMarcusJ]

This is what PS Vita should looks like if it has actual R2-L2 button without those touchpad gimmick. I still love my Vita tho.

[@Zaapiel22]

Yeah, I have an OG 1000 that I've jail broken. The Odin mini is tempting to replace it as my main, but I'll have to wait for a Black Friday sale or something before I even think about it.

[@ScottyNelson-d2w]

I took your botton part of the video as the same quality and function as the Odin 2. Are they actually the same meaning the button kits on their site for the Odin 2 will work for the Mini? Obviously they have different shoulders but are the d pad, a,b,x,y and sticks interchangeable?

[@rphntw1n]

I love it. I think the price point is a bit high but I’d probably still get it, down the road.

[@danieltamayo62]

Testing the battery with the screen at 100% brightness on both devices doesn't make too much sense, as the Mini's screen is much brighter than OG O2, you should configure 100% on the Odin 2 (508 NITs) an equivalent NIT percentaje for the Mini would be around 50% (as the screen is capable of 1100 NITs)

[@ccricers]

Persona 4 Golden was the only reason a friend of mine got the Vita lol. I sadly didn't get onto the Vita train although I had a PSP but this looks like it could play a decent amount of Vita games.

[@xw8462]

I just bought Odin 2 over this. I 'd love to have this one too but here is the cons I think (all in theory though): 1) It's same size of Ambernic RG505, form and screen. It's not really small. It's not pocketable unless you are in XXL pants. 2) The 5 inch screen is ok for "play" but too small for any in-game text reading. So you will be affected when playing android games or streaming. 3) If you don't play android games or don't stream much, only emulations, then other cheaper options are everywhere. This processor is overkill.

[@cyclonmaster]

I wonder, does it had built in screen recorder? How does it perform while recording?

[@Tacquito]

Wait its not broken? A device came to you in working condition?!

[@Vandel212]

Hmm sounds like a case of only buy this if you don't have the Odin 2 already.

[@MattHorton]

Form factor affects performance. I agree that it's going to be minimal differences but it would be worth it if you wanted to get thorough.

[@pierre1509]

For your actual review, I would be very interested by what systems are permitted by this console over the RP4P in actual use (taking the resolution difference into consideration for scaling). Is it only Switch and high end Android games ?

[@combatspeed6392]

I ordered the white. My only disappointment with this is there's no buttons on the back like the Odin1/Odin2.

[@greekmanx]

Good video glad you got it before ETA since your reviews are honest anyway one suggestion I know I have seen other reviews do is if you have a phone like the newer iPhones that can do 240fps slo mo you can record your finger and the screen showing when you press the button and when character moves on screen not super scientific but still would show differences between devices

[@serpserpserp]

Be good to understand if it is actually just the screen itself that causes it to be hotter, or if the smaller form factor of the device causing it. If it is the screen itself, no matter what you do throttling wise you might not be able to get away from it being very hot. Which might lead to the device having a fail in the screen. Hopefully not though!

[@noelmunoz2571]

So rg556 screen still a winner 👍

[@kalvin.]

Yes, but sadly it’s not powerful enough to fully utilize the screen (upscaled PS2, GC and top android games). I really want V2 to have that more powerful chip and improved sticks.

[@joepage5000]

@@kalvin.I think whatever comes after the rg556 is going to be endgame for ps2/gc if they keep that screen and increase the power another 25-50%.

[@kalvin.]

@@joepage5000 I hope so! I randomly watched a review of the Razer Edge from last year, and that has basically a SD888, and it still didn’t quite max out PS2 and GC emulation. So it seems like SD8G2 in the Odin 2 is really the bar to reach, unless Anbernic can keep the 556v2 under 200 but with the likes of a D1100 or SD888 chip.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Vita sized it good, hopefully we see some x86 devices in this form factor in the next few years.

[@DarkKnight2037]

How comfortable is the dpad usage? Because I feel like PSP was comfortable because of where the dpad was positioned, but for this I wonder how the comfrotability of changes with the dpad position change?

[@arunavamalo]

Hi, does it have vibration motor? I am just one step away from finalising whether to preorder..so please reply

[@RideByAquib]

That screen to body ratio is the only thing keeping my fomo at bay. 😅

[@boxed-sound]

All good things it seems! I was worried about the vignetting, but it seems that’s not so big of a deal. I did preorder the white one but now I’m wondering if I should switch to the black to have less contrast in the bezels to help minimize the vignette.

[@ivysdanillo]

Joey, I wanna be your friend so bad!

[@jeff-n1j]

i hope they will sell the dpad and buttons of mini, its looks same on odin 2.

[@SniperFoxx420]

What would be a better purchase, this or a steam deck oled

[@hadouken2123]

Awesome device!

[@chrisw8069]

I think this has a place, but don't understand why they wouldn't take the chance to target $249 with this device. Base should of had the same screen type as the Odin 2.

[@toycoma98]

They should've gave it a name of its own, or make it an actual smaller version of Odin 2 since its called Odin 2 mini. Call it AYN Vida or something.

[@fellowninja]

I've got the official PS Vita soft case, so I'll probably post on one of the subreddits if it fits.

[@SansINess53]

is it as powerful as the normal odin 2?

[@JoeysRetroHandhelds]

Yes, it's the same.