The Off-Season Moves so Far in the Pacific Division

With so many players moving in the off-season so far, I wanted to take a look at who has been added to each team and go one division at a time.
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[@davidwilliams9489]

Rob Blake is a chump GM who gives away assets for the equivalent of magic beans in return.

[@diggsfather]

the entire trade tree of the dubois trade is mind boggling

[@TheFusionmix]

Bergevin has been a great scapegoat

[@RobertoClemente94]

As a Kings fan, at least we got sick new sweaters haha

[@LP_R3apEr]

Mike Grier as GM absolutely cooked during this off-season and in the draft. It’d still be a miracle if the sharks somehow sneak into a spot for the playoffs , but with the way the team is assembled now it wouldn’t surprise me as a fan if they finish with at least 30 wins next year.

[@sharkhaos_probably]

25-30 is my guess. Definitely a much better record, and likely more close losses (only allowing eight goals and not ten in back to back games would be a nice improvement)

[@Mitch-ui8ps]

30 wins bro come on they’re gonna be ass fighting for a lottery pick again

[@ryanatkinson9622]

What is ass fighting?

[@jfriesen39]

​@@Mitch-ui8psComma comma comma comedian

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Wasting cap on Toffoli and Wennberg is what a bad GM would do. The same as not forcing Smith and Macklin to play in the the AHL for 2 years on the slide. The only reason I can be wrong is if the Sharks are a legit cup contender very soon. It is not realistic that will happen but I would be happy to be wrong. The sharks are trying to copy the hawks and it just is not realistic but it will give the fans a more watchable product. I would rather the sharks lose if leads to a cup win later on.

[@RamonGJ]

I for one I’m excited to see how the Sharks are going to do this season

[@Lavvvs]

"I know Canucks fans will be mad about this." What aren't they mad about lol..

[@FloydRunner2049]

JFresh has a much different take on the Pacific div

[@Lavvvs]

@@FloydRunner2049 What these channels don't add for context (and I don't mean to be nasty towards any of them) is that these sportsbooks odds do not equate to a power rankings. The quality of each teams roster is absolutely a factor, but these lines are also largely influenced by data meaning how the public bets, and how big time sharp gamblers bet. They anticipate risk they will take on and limit their losses based on the price offered. Source: I work in sports gambling

[@wynonasbigbrownbeaver6757]

Im a los angeles kings fan and i want to die

[@sharkhaos_probably]

Sharks fan here. Don't need to say anything else.

[@michaelkerber3337]

thanks for Arvidsson, enjoy foegele he might score 5 goals for you lol

[@AmosDohms]

Look on the bright side, you probably won't have to lose to Edmonton for a fourth consecutive time.

[@davidwilliams9489]

​@@michaelkerber3337 you're welcome for Arvidsson. He'll help out as far as LTIR goes, and you'll enjoy seeing constantly getting put on his ass if he does manage to make it into a game..

[@JesterRace139]

You guys seem to be entering a long phase of perpetual mediocrity..

[@yelling3874]

Missed a golden chance to joke about Desharnais being the biggest loss on the Oilers lol. I feel bad for Foegele, it sounded like he really wanted to stay but the Oilers weren't interested (for cap reasons, I mean, under different circumstances I do think they would have been). Wishing him all the best. Hopefully the Kings get a different matchup next postseason and we get to see what they can do.

[@MikeS29]

Thanks!

[@Steve_Hunts96]

For the 1st time since maybe the expansion season, I feel like expectations on Vegas are tempered, and they’re not the team expected to win the Pacific anymore… this could be a great thing for this team, as despite all the players that left (except for Marchessault, depth guys that got PAID), this VGK team is still LOADED at center, still possesses what’s likely the most loaded defensive core in hockey, and IMO, they actually got better between the pipes with the Samsonov signing to replace Thompson, who despite being an all-star, I don’t think has as high of a ceiling as Samsonov has, especially with Sean Burke coaching the goaltenders. The trade for Alexander Holtz was a low-key fleecing of New Jersey, as Holtz has the potential to become a star in the NHL, and the Olofsson signing was also a low-key excellent move to add a potential 20+ goal scorer to the lineup, and the VGK are also making Pavel Dorofeyev a mainstay in the top-6, and he’s a guy that has a chance to really break out this season and become a helluva scoring winger! To sum things up, they lost a lot of depth, but have gotten younger, and their ceiling is still high, and are thus still a very dangerous hockey team! I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they actually are better than a lot of people are thinking they’ll be in 2024-25

[@Danielo99]

Great Video! Please make off-season moves videos about the other three divisions as well (:

[@b-ricemarsh5210]

Been watching since 2018 and have never been this early lol keep up the good work Shannon!

[@theburritoninj4]

Labanc hasn't been good since Jumbo left. Letting him go is our gain.

[@ianhall6614]

He really is one of those players that needs to play with high end talent to achieve his maximum potential. Otherwise he just flounders. He will always have 1 goal and 3 assists on the same power play though. Legend for that

[@jasonpaul4308]

i think my favorite thing about this off season has been the amount of same names moving onto teams together! Skinner, Skinner, Lindholm, Lindholm, Hagg, Hague....not to mention that Pettersson and Pettersson are already on the same team! And Hughes and Hughes...

[@frankytanky5076]

Oilers just absolutely killed this FA, and I don't think Jackson is even done yet.

[@wojowestcoast]

warren foegele is a huge loss. he was a waterbug for them in the playoffs. we’ll see if arvidsson can stay healthy and if jeff skinner can mesh

[@frankytanky5076]

@@wojowestcoast he’s not, he can forecheck and skate fast and that’s it.

[@taskdon769]

@@wojowestcoast Uh what? He is a fast skater with no hands, he can forecheck but no finish, he shoots wide if he wasn't shooting in front of goalie. He is 28 years old so he is at his ceiling, he is not going to be better especially he shoots left anyway. He is not 3.5 mil worth of wing. Holloway shoots left, about the same size, much younger with higher ceiling, so not really a big loss at all.

[@tolman33]

Edmonton's defense and goaltending has been weak for a long time and that hasn't changed this FA. Edmonton taking a page out of the Leafs playbook and just try to outscore everyone, not a recipe for success.

[@BradRichardson-nt2zk]

Literally went to game 7 of the finals what are u talking about. Oilers addressed forwards first, now they’ll focus on reworking the d-core. Skinner is good enough to win. Who is the team you cheer for?

[@Kazahad1110]

Liked this video. More please.

[@fxhomie]

Labanc (The Banker) has been garbage the last couple years. No great loss for the Sharks.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

The sharks can lose with anyone and it is another Doug Wilson contract that hurt the team.

[@christhornycroft3686]

Because of the turnover in Vancouver, I'm approaching this coming season like last season. Wait and see. If the Canucks come off to a good start and Demko is ready to go, things should be fine. I'm not expecting contender status given they're missing a top 4 defensive defenseman, but you never know. Having cap flexibility helps.

[@IXXVIIVII]

Which top 4? The one they picked up in December?

[@deBebbler]

Marty!!! I always liked Martin Frk. Glad to see he is still in the League. Not sure what he will bring at this point, but at least he will be familiar with Mantha.

[@iivarikoutonen9027]

Two arts references ❤ Both painting and literature 🎉

[@1skcusebutuoy1]

Martin Frk. Because vowels in your last name are not necessary.

[@choppergunner8650]

Frking hard to pronounce that

[@RRaquello]

Frk said "Frk vowels!"

[@Ryyder64]

Holtz to Vegas was kind of a huge story bud lol. I know some stuff will be missed with your excellent coverage of all teams but that's a big talking point.

[@Siggi395]

No frkn wonder why the frkn Flames will be in the frkn basement for the next frkn 5 years.... they got a frkn guy named Frk!

[@elwizschold]

My take is that Kings should be lucky if they make the playoffs, unless they make some good trades. Blake seems to be sinking the ship

[@sso9442]

Mr. Hockey Guy - thanks for all the hard work you put in to give us content, even during the off season. I didn't realize how much content you put out there. When other hockey channels only put out sporadic content during the off season, you grind it out daily. Much appreciated!

[@isaacwest276]

As an Oilers fan I don't like that we have the best odds. I think all of the confidence the media and us fans had in them at the beginning of this last years was a contributing factor to their failures, they seemed to be playing on fan's confidence rather ten their own. Hopefully the media picks teams other than the Oilers and the Oilers continue to play on their own confidence. I would feel a lot better picking my own Oilers to win if the media didn't follow suit again.

[@CozyToad]

Well if you look at some of the oilers fans in the comments here the expectations are the same, or higher than last year.

[@GamingSlippers]

@isaacwest276 it was more likely the fact they were playing completely new dzone coverage by a coach who had not coached it before. Compared to Knob who has been a defensive sided coach for a while. Pair that with unsustainable poor finishing and bottom of the league goaltending, and you get 2-9-1.

[@frankytanky5076]

@@GamingSlippers it’s this, new d zone that was implemented incorrectly by Manson (he was awful) and also woody. As soon as knob and Coffey came in it finally got fixed.

[@BradRichardson-nt2zk]

We should have the best odds, embrace it

[@diggsfather]

would markstrom qualify as CGY's biggest exit? or are trades omitted for this video

[@minutemilitia6498]

Holtz for Vegas wasnt mentioned, but they are banking hard on him

[@weez82]

I gave you a ninja like :)

[@BoyNamedSue4]

While it was time for Jones to go to a different team, I’ll definitely miss him.

[@andrewgreen815]

I have always liked Colin Delia. I saw him play a few times for the Moose last year. He was the same goalie when he payed in the Canucks organizations. I thought maybe the Canucks, like the Jets with Comrie, would bring him back, but the Oilers got him. He is a good depth, or 3rd goalie and will get a few wins in the AHL. I'm hopeful he can take that backup to Skinner spot.

[@jkliao6486]

5:03 "Welcome back! Thank you so much for watching and I'll talk to you again, soon" click :)

[@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge]

Didn't LA added Kuemper in exchange for Dubois?

[@jonah.donohue]

not during the offseason

[@Martinoalsrup]

Jeff for president!

[@RRaquello]

Two Staten Island guys mentioned: Labanc & Aston-Reese. With all the rumors, the third Staten Island guy was supposed to be on the "traded" list, Artur Kaliyev, but he's still with LA, last I heard. Where's Nick Fotiu? Would be funny if Kadri was traded back to the Leafs, as has been rumored, and he refused on his no trade clause, because a few years back when the Leafs traded him to Calgary, he refused, on his no trade clause.

[@ryanhobbs7041]

I don’t think I’ve ever been this hopeful and excited about an Oilers team

[@rontrabaroe4247]

Tempered expectations oft meet best results.

[@dribbIegod]

Canucks in 6

[@lilpyrate8257]

It really does feel like we took a BIG step back with our signing this offseason. Like Rob made some good moves during the draft and then this?! Another step forward just to see how many we can jump back. A team that looked so promising 2 years ago feel just meh. Rob and Bergevin have destroyed all that hard work to get us where we are in like 3-2 seasons. idk maybe I’m proven wrong but looking at what the oilers added and Nashville with similar situations feels bad….

[@lilpyrate8257]

Just to add on even though now it feels like whining We didn’t address losing the only guy making our pp bearable with RV Our address to losing one of the statistically best d man in Roy was to sign a guy who is injury prone and a bottom d for 3.8 mil for like 4 years Our address to depth scoring was Foegele who is decent but I expect a at least small drop off from points not playing with dri and Jeannot (who I thought was an ok trade) We still don’t have an answer for net We now made it so much harder to get our young guys ice time Oh and we only have like one RHS for our forwards.

[@chrisbelos2834]

Habs fans will confirm. Bergevin does love trading for 4th liners for good draft picks, just like that Tanner Jeannot trade.

[@aisthefisherman]

Kings better not keep Rob Blake after this season! Awful 7 years

[@brAnd7onX87]

Ducks added Fabbri and Dumoulin as well.

[@retflo2583]

That was quite a miss, as they were more important than the scrubs mentioned.

[@brAnd7onX87]

@@retflo2583 That was my thought as well. Two healthy scratches mentioned versus every day starters.

[@retflo2583]

2030, the first year the Ducks pick outside the top ten in the Draft. Thank you Pat Verbeek, your vision is incredible...

[@ivantot506]

2024-2025 the first year in the playoffs

[@JayTD206]

What about Robby Fabbri?

[@christopherrhorer5192]

Vegas also lost Stephenson and Martinez. Not a small subtraction. Vegas has a solid defensive lineup

[@jazefgcm6534]

RIP to cap friendly. Oh well, gotta move on to puckpedia I guess

[@Bnz640]

I’m not feeling very confident with Vegas. Losing two top six guys and not replacing them with anything equal on a team that was a WC2 doesn’t seem like a winning formula(and don’t say “injuries” we’ve been using that excuse for 4 years). I see them being a WC team at best if they stay healthy. Only saving grace would be if Doro, Holtz, and Brisson turn out to be total studs

[@Steve_Hunts96]

Don’t forget Olofsson, whom 3 times playing on shitty Sabre teams scored 20+ goals. Could be a huge low-key signing by Vegas if he pans out, but yes this VGK team is gonna be banking on younger talent breaking out this year.

[@aaronreeve1414]

Is Vegas 4th or 9th in odds to win the Cup? Couldn’t tell on the board and THG didn’t say.

[@jonmendelson1104]

It would be pretty crazy if, given their losses to their lineup, they were fourth. That doesn't mean they won't win the cup, it just means they're listed as ninth favorite before the offseason is done.

[@PerceKelowna]

Arvidsson is awesome. If he stays healthy, look out

[@sirfrostysnow6913]

In Kelly Axemurder McCrimmon I trust

[@HankyPanky44]

Did you forget about Kuemper?

[@RedReVenge007]

Do you plan on covering capfriendly take down?

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

RIP I really liked that site

[@benmacdonald4752]

I believe he already talked about that in a video

[@ripapa6355]

More often than not, I thought Foegele was the hardest working player on the ice.

[@sharkhaos_probably]

Oilers win the presidents trophy is my out-on-a-limb prediction for next year.

[@ryans413]

Might not win presidents trophy but will probably win the west or the devision

[@missstar219]

presidents trophy curse gonna be funny

[@TheKisj]

@missstar219 no no, if mcdavid touches both trophies (presidents trophy & the Campbell bowl) it will cancel each other out

[@missstar219]

@@TheKisj then the corey perry curse reigns supreme

[@TheKisj]

@missstar219 oh shit, i forgot about that

[@michaelkeller5927]

Nobody questions Foegle's effort. But keep in mind it was his place on Draisaitl's wing was his to lose and he lost it because hes terrible. He cant finish worth a damn. Hell never sniff 15 goals and 40 points because he's never going to play with a guy like Draisaitl again

[@mbertrand]

I would say the rebuild phase is over for the Ducks. The next couple of years should be about turning futures into good roster players to start competing. Terry, McTavish, Zegras, Zelwegger, Mintyukov, Carlsson, Gaucher, Luneau, Warren, and Dostal make for an excellent young core group. Sennecke and Solberg are a just couple years away. It’s an exciting time to be a Ducks fan after a long tenure of misery.

[@trismaster]

Vegas also added Victor Olofsson from Buffalo.

[@vickybrogan6959]

Thank you!

[@jonah.donohue]

overpay

[@forecheckbackcheckpaycheck]

And Alexander Holtz, right

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

And Holtz

[@trismaster]

@@ChristiantrospectiveGamer You can say that twice! 😂

[@BrotherAlpha]

DeBrusk was expected to get $5.8 million for 5 years. Getting the cap down by $300,000 and adding two years is a good deal. He'll only be 34 when it's done, so I don't have an issue with the term. There were nine players last year who were 35 years or older who have 50 or more points and 12 that had 40 or more points. The cap will be high enough that he should still be earning his paycheck, or close enough, right up till the end. Worst case scenario is always an injury that impedes his play without putting him on LTIR. However, aside from that, he should still be an asset right up till the end.

[@justinfrankenfield466]

Don’t forget Vegas also got Alex holtz

[@Marixa1979]

who?

[@Steve_Hunts96]

@@Marixa1979You don’t know hockey if you don’t know who that is.

[@Marixa1979]

@@Steve_Hunts96 I guess not. Had to look him up, can't believe I didn't know who he was, played 110 games, 34 points, -26 for his career with Jersey. Crazy Jersey didn't keep him.

[@daws_garage7674]

Forgot holtz on Vegas

[@Vegland]

HAHAHAHHA ninja dustHAHAHAHAHAH

[@AccipiterF1]

Doesn't LA's goalie situation look pretty shaky?

[@WilliamBonney-gl2qf]

I think Kuemper & Big Save Dave are stop-gap measures until Erik Portillo gets the nod in a few Seasons,or less.

[@unique_package5370]

@@WilliamBonney-gl2qfis Portillo looking like he’ll end up pretty good?

[@WilliamBonney-gl2qf]

@@unique_package5370 They're sure hoping so,he was a high draft pick and had a really good career at the University of Michigan. Time will tell

[@saundersinlinehockeybakers240]

@@WilliamBonney-gl2qf remember, during his time at Michigan, the team was ultra-stacked. I like Portillo, but I put no stock in his college career

[@WilliamBonney-gl2qf]

@@saundersinlinehockeybakers240 Good point! Powerhouse Wolverine Team,so Kings Fans are cautiously optimistic. 🙏

[@auspiex]

What Is the parade route for the 2025 canucks 🎉

[@Marixa1979]

I'm sure Vancouver fans will be reasonable and understand why it is that they are viewed on the same level as the Kings and just behind Vegas.

[@kodychong9568]

There better than la lol .fwd wise over vegas to

[@IXXVIIVII]

Vegas has the LTIR factor in the mix. See if Stone can manage yet another season with March/April injury. Total speculation with the wide gap between top/bottom contenders forecasted. These specialists saw the Canucks near the basement last season

[@kodychong9568]

@IXXVIIVII - it'll be intresting to see how it all plays out on the ice in oct for sure!

[@ritahoman5364]

You can never wait to throw VGK under the bus...watch out, we're coming!

[@randombutrelevant1606]

Kadri to edm for Kane

[@amelbeecher6097]

Look what Torts did with an average team. Lots of entertainment, bums in seats! Bills paid.

[@InsignificantNick]

L.A. should've fired Rob Blake long ago. It's hilarious he's still there.

[@WilliamBonney-gl2qf]

Same with Robitaille

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Dean Lombardi was a legend how he was fired by the Sharks and Kings is insanity. I believe it cost the sharks a cup he was fired. The Kings look worse without him too.

[@calicanuck5584]

Calgary's biggest loss in the off season would be Markstrom.

[@Peksisarvinen]

Losing Foegele does hurt, but 3,5 million cap hit for him is WAY too much. Oilers got Jeff Skinner for a 3 million cap hit. Granted, that's a special case and two completely different types of players, but still it's a guy who has scored 30+ goals twice in the last three seasons versus Warren Foegele. And if Skinner and Arvidsson both play 70+ games, I'd be very surprised if they don't score 30+ each. Full season and everything going as planned, wouldn't be shocked to see career highs for them. Might have my expectations set a bit too high, but the Oilers offence should be cooking next year.

[@BradRichardson-nt2zk]

Vancouver has one good season and all the fans freak out because the analysts rank them lower then proven, consistent playoff teams and the analysts have tempered expectations and a show me attitude towards them

[@dtrain9911]

How a lot feel about the oilers one pdo run to the Stanley cup finals doesn’t mean they are top dogs

[@martybraga4832]

Labanc blows. Not sure where that came from.

[@amelbeecher6097]

Maybe plan to be a really good team, but not for cup winner.. Stay good for longer, cheaper.

[@VGK2017]

Vegas also added Holtz and Olofsson. Yes they lost a lot and Marchy was a huge loss but I’m excited to see Brisson, Korczak and Dorofeyev as regulars this season and hope Hertl can stay healthy and find his groove with the team. He was a -6 in the Dallas series. GKG

[@ionystherogue5627]

@@VGK2017 VGK should be fine, not sure we make the playoffs this year. Feel like this is a wait and see year before we lose a lot off the books next season

[@jonmendelson1104]

I'm really hoping Vegas can win the draft lottery this year.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Hertl played so bad against Dallas the tv guys talked down on him. I hope he heals too.

[@IXXVIIVII]

@@jonmendelson1104Have they won before? Serious question

[@jonmendelson1104]

@@IXXVIIVII Nah. I'm just a Sharks fan and we have the Knights' first round pick. I hate them in general, but I'm cheering against them even more this year.

[@ShamanicEnzan]

I would rather you use “playoff lock”, “playoff hunting” “fringe candidate” then “rebuild” for the other previews. I think it’s a bit too nebulous the way it’s defined now.

[@ThomB1031]

If Jones is the Ducks biggest loss, they'll be alright. Jones will shine in the bottom 6 in Boston I expect... but that's one year's first round picks that didn't pan out (Steel and Jones) which is a shame.

[@ConfideKylie]

I don’t know about Vegas. Feels like they got rid of half their team and haven’t replaced those with anyone significant yet. Seattle has had one of each type of season so far: bad, great and mid. So season four is a chance to define the team. I’m hoping for another great season, but likely good to mid?

[@shawnadams2757]

As a Kraken fan hoping for a better season than last but fully expecting about the same

[@Steve_Hunts96]

I’ll break it down for you: Vegas’s offseason was at the trade deadline when they acquired Hanifin & Hertl. Those 2 guys alone were the replacements for Stephenson & Martinez, but also in their own ways new core pieces being integrated this off-season. Marchessault will be the big loss from the lineup, but at age 33, he wasn’t going to have much runway left, and there’s a young forward named Pavel Dorofeyev that’s been in and out of the lineup the past 2 seasons that I’m predicting takes Marchessault’s place. He’s a kid that when he’s played, has looked fantastic, so I’m thinking he’ll have a breakout season this year, barring any health concerns. Beyond that, Michael Amadio has been replaced by Alexander Holtz, and William Carrier has been replaced by Victor Olofsson. I also believe Vegas’ 1st round pick from a few years back in Brendan Brisson is making the team this year, and so at the moment, I have Vegas’ lineup looking like this: Barbashev - Eichel - Dorofeyev Holtz - Hertl - Stone Brisson - Karlsson - Olofsson Howden - Roy - Kolesar Hanifin - Pietrangelo Theodore - McNabb Hague - Whitecloud Hill/Samsonov Is it a loaded lineup? No, but is it still a very talented lineup? Absolutely. If this VGK team can stay away from the injury bug that’s plagued them for 3 straight regular seasons (I still don’t know how the 2023 Stanley Cup Championship team went 51-22-9 with the injuries it had throughout that regular season), this team will be a good team, but if they do have injuries again, I don’t think they’ll have the depth this time around to sustain it.

[@Steve_Hunts96]

I’ll also say that I don’t think Vegas is done making moves yet despite the lack of salary cap space. I’ve been sensing a trade to upgrade the forwards via using a defenseman, because Kaeden Korczak is being touted as an NHL ready player for the blue line, but Vegas is completely loaded on all 3 defensive pairings. It would make sense to ship out one of the defensemen to make room for Korczak if they got a forward upgrade in return.

[@ConfideKylie]

@@Steve_Hunts96I guess, I just don’t see any of the additions as equal in skill to the subtractions. Maybe they can somehow add more despite their cap situation.

[@ryans413]

Oilers have won the offseason so far.

[@christiantaillon2930]

Kadri isn't leaving, he loves playing here in Calgary and wants to win here. All the rumors and speculation is all made up, none of it is true.

[@AJCsmom]

My only regret is Nashville not resigning Sherwood - he has heart and gives 110% every shift. Vancouver - please take care of him. Signed - heartbroken Preds fan

[@uhServi]

@@AJCsmom I’m sure Steven Stamkos will be a viable replacement

[@atopermusic]

How far did the off-season go? How far is SO far??

[@DALpropaganda]

Vancouver and LA being tied for 12th is insane.....Vancouver imo being a Rangers and Oilers fan are crazy good cup contenders especially with a healthy roster for sure if Demko's 100%. LA is on a huge downfall since 2014.

[@biglebowski3961]

I like what oilers did, and I'm not even a fan.

[@heathclark318]

Interesting... 4 Playoff teams when the Central is a FAR better division top to bottom. Maybe that is why. No real easy wins...

[@jonmendelson1104]

5:17 "The biggest loss is Kevin Labanc" uhhh....the only person who is lazier than Labanc in the NHL is Mike Hoffman. Admittedly not much was lost from their final roster (if you go back to the TDL Hertl's the biggest loss), but a guy who wore out his welcome with three different coaches and couldn't earn a regular role on the worst team in the league isn't really a loss. Looking at the end of the season roster I'd say Carpenter's probably the biggest loss.

[@martybraga4832]

Couldn't agree with you more. Just goes to show THG dosen't watch many Sharks games.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Labanc at one point in 2019 or something got to play with the top sharks players in the PP and last season he had to play with Nico Sturm. That is quite a decline in teammate help. I am not implying Lebanc belonged on the sharks #1 line because he did not earn that. Doug Wilson still overpaid him and that contract hurt the team. Will be interesting how much Labanc and Hoffman get in free agency.

[@jonmendelson1104]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants My prediction is they get PTOs and maybe get the league minimum, or within about 100k of that. For Hoffman I'm pretty confident he ends up either completely retiring or going to Europe. Labanc earned his contract the way so many other players have...Jumbo Joe's feeds. He was a one dimensional player, terrible defensively, who could only succeed with an elite playmaker at center. Even when he was succeeding, he had so many turnovers where he'd drop the puck back just after entering the zone leading to great chances going back the other way. Yes, going from playing with Jumbo to playing with Sturm is a drop off, but he didn't put the effort in to earn any sort of promotion. If it were just Quinn that demoted him that'd be one thing, but he went through three separate coaches all of whom he fell out of favor with and ended up either demoted to the fourth line or healthy scratched. As Sheng's said a few times on the SJHN podcast, he might find success in a sheltered power play specialist role on a team similar to what Noesen has had recently, but he's going to be lucky to get any more than a league minimum offer.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

@@jonmendelson1104 That was the issue with Zadina too. He has some talent shooting but that is where his talent ends. Zadina could not even pass well and defense was not there. Nico Sturm lacks the offense and defense to be on the team IMO but he appears to be staying. Happy Grier did not want Addison back.

[@jonmendelson1104]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Sturm provides plenty of offense if he's in his appropriate position. He's a great 4C who can occasionally fill in as a 3C, but with all of the center injuries he was forced to play 3C and sometimes 2C.

[@dumbestoyster]

Kadri isn't going anywhere

[@risottonero6635]

Golden knights lost too much

[@gtl81199]

Yes but both those contracts that Stephenson and Marchy got those are over pays big time you can’t just throw money around have to be smart even if that means taking a step back

[@jonah.donohue]

@@gtl81199 MARCHY WAS UNDERPAID SEVERELY. Don't even try to act like Vegas won

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

@@gtl81199 The Kraken lost their minds giving him that.

[@gtl81199]

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 💯 agree Vegas is smart to let both of these guys go was with Marchy it hurts but can’t just throw money

[@Steve_Hunts96]

@@jonah.donohue$5.5 million for the next 5 years at 33 years old is underpaid? That contract is gonna age like milk for Nashville, especially since Marchessault won’t have Eichel as his playmaking center anymore. Unless Marchessault is paired with O’Reilly (which I wouldn’t do since that line of Forsberg - O’Reilly - Nyquist was so good last year), he’s gonna take a massive step back from scoring over 40 goals. He’ll be lucky to get around 25 in Nashville.

[@saundersinlinehockeybakers240]

Honestly, as a long-time Kings fan I just have apathy at this point with the organization. I don’t see anything beyond mediocrity and being a playoff bubble team while the current management/leadership/ownership is in-place. Being ranked 12th and playoffs this season is optimistic. I see 5 teams from the central with Vegas, Edmonton, and Vancouver from the pacific. Kings miss playoffs. Blake fired. Start over again…

[@chapinc36]

Kevin Labanc is terrible, he's been scratched 90% of the games the last few season for a reason. SJ does not want him back.

[@quag311]

Am I the only one mad about both Skinners being in Edmonton?

[@ryans413]

Yes

[@davepolovy-slavaukraini4015]

Yup

[@stevie-pea]

Really ... Who the Frk cares ? 🤭

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

There is absolutely no excuse for McDavid not to get it done now with the roster Edmonton has put together.

[@anthonycollins7405]

The blueline didn't change and Broberg hasn't signed yet.

[@gorgeousgeorge5173]

Lets get real, the Oilers are the biggest Cup contenders. Even if your a hater, they are the most exciting team in the NHL.

[@adambarnes4191]

You have the best player in the NHL by a mile and another top 5ish player. They should be contenders or what the hell are they doing.

[@chrisbelos2834]

Everybody wants out of Calgary and i mean EVERYBODY. looking at their 2021-22 roster, there's only 4 players left : Andersson, Colemen, Duerh and Vladar. rebuilding is their future and the habs STILL have their 2025 first round pick (traded WITH Monahan for futures consideration). they had to get many more first rounder for that year since they need one to give to the habs. sorry not sorry. hope you get running water soon too.

[@MeloGuy-xs9fq]

That’s why Anaheim fans should stay home and not spending a lot of money on Home game tickets this year or the next two years and save your gear money for when they actually want to put some improvement in the team.

[@ThomB1031]

It was a combination of things for me, used to get mini plans. But the prices go up every year regardless of the product, and the parking is pricey too. And I used to be able to watch occasionally on broadcast tv, and every game used to be on the radio. Now it's cable or app only, overpriced, and I'm still annoyed at the foolishness from 2020-2022.

[@MeloGuy-xs9fq]

@@ThomB1031 yeah Honda center prices have gone through the roof. You would think they have a Stanley Cup contender or something.

[@michaelkerber3337]

when talking about foegele you brought up playoffs and hard work.... he was pretty bad ... so bad he was a healthy scratch for 3 games and if Oilers would have had a deeper team he would have been a healthy scratch for even more, he definitely lacked work ethic in the playoffs.

[@ryans413]

Both him and McLeod and look they are both gone look at that. Both good guys but they needed to go I think with Foegele it was money and with McLeod it was an epic trade not going to miss any of them but I wish them luck.

[@leonardwise5807]

The Knights added Olofsson and Holtz from New Jersey. Come on, Shannon, that age is catching up.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

Chandler Stephensons agent looks very smart and the Kraken GM does not. That contract should be 4 years tops and 5.5 per year tops.

[@mjorn19]

I agree, the contract is terrible and will age poorly. Also what were they thinking? We have Beniers, Gourde, Stephenson, and Wright at C. What are they going to do? Demote Yanni to 4th line? Put Wright there and give him low ice time? I really don't get this move.

[@Vegland]

if you start having a sense of humor beyond dry buddy you might have more followers than you can handle

[@stefan1132]

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