The Office: How Nonsense Conquered the Workplace - Wisecrack Edition

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Why do we love The Office? Is it the characters? The jokes? The drama? While those are all major reasons, we want to explore another: how pointless work has overrun the economy.
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[@cacapoopization]

I watched this video at work while making a bracelet out of staples

[@briankirkwood4454]

I admire your spirit!

[@ladystoneheart8155]

That’s really impressive actually

[@wimvanleuven8992]

Must be shiny.

[@FrVitoBe]

cool what patern did you use for the bracelet? might wanna try it 2

[@Contrabass101]

Best comment!

[@sircharlesmormont9300]

The real B.S. is that people who work in B.S. positions like those on display in The Office earn decent, livable wages while their useful counterparts who provide actual services - cleaning, cooking, fixing, creating, serving actual customers in real time - are demeaned and paid poverty wages.

[@MikeBNumba6]

True, when I worked as a cook for a chain restaurant it was far more work than my current job as a data analyst or past jobs like business analyst or App support.

[@ManticoreSigma]

True that. I work in IT and, as I see it, I'm being paid for what I technically CAN do, not for what needs to be done. In my normal 40 hour work week, I seldomly work more than 5-10 hours. The rest is watching KZbin, messing around in blender and chatting with coworkers. I even have home office twice a week, where I essentially only give my wife a helping hand with our daughter. My wife, on the other hand was a dentists nurse, with the same amount of working hours per week, fewer paid days off and looooots of work. Including dealing with obnoxious patients, handling dangerous chemicals and being in danger of coming in contact with infectious materials. She got almost half as much salary as I get... sad, but at least I can provide for my family with this bullshit.

[@MrWheres]

I work at the brazilian public sector, so it's kind of a different context, but in our own building, most of the people who have the heaviest work are paid the less. I had a B.S. job here - and thankfully got transferred out of that department - and was paid 8 times what the cleaners were. And while I've been idle for most of the time during the years I was in there (I got my job for the day done in 2 hours), they were out there working out their asses... I was thinking it had something to do with how former slaver-societies perceived menial jobs, but this is the same even in other less unequal cultures. The main difference, I guess, is that the upper classes from Brazil and US see the shit-workers of their own countries as lesser citizens, while europeans think as such of 3rd-world immigrants workers. That's what make former slavers classes willing to sacrifice the wholeness of their workers' well-being in the name of their profit, even if this leads to societal disaster, while european magnates tend to want their countries to be functional - even if they don't care as much as to what happens in all those foreign poor countries they meddled/meddle with.

[@GlenTropile]

That's why I tip in cash, if you aren't worth full price(server wage is less than min. here) I don't think your taxes should be based off of the full price.

[@shizukaze]

ManticoreSigma bro, same... I work in IT for the city... It’s rare at best that I have to actually flex my brain and really work work... I put in about 50-60 hours a week, but a lot of it is stuff anybody in my office could do if they actually tried... KZbin, FaceBook, SketchUp, and a few games round out the average work day...

[@dunnowy123]

There's a guy at my office whose title is Assistant Office Manager. His day consists of counting pens and paper stacks, making sure we have paper towels, soap and sponges in the kitchens, notifying us when the fridge will be cleaned and sometimes filling in for reception. He's literally been asked to recount pens in preparation for a meeting, a task he fulfilled a day or two before. His job is completely bullshit, but he's been with the office for 30 years, so no one wants to fire him or anything. And he's pretty nice.

[@JimboRustles]

Assistant to the Office Manager?

[@h.l.malazan5782]

That sounds like an easy job and not something that people would hate to do like the video thumbnail "Why You Hate Your Job" suggest. That bullshit task was part of my job, but my job also included having to create their work schedule every month, sending out letters, writing sales reports, creating posters, documenting sales records, new sales entries, making bulk copies, documenting student records, cleaning the toilets, cleaning the entire office. This video was a disingenuous attempt to circle back the issue of a bad job market flooded with bad jobs and blame the workers instead. I hated my jobs and it's because I was always overworked and undervalued. I'm thirty and I've never stumbled on a job like the ones described either in the video or in The Office, among the main casts.

[@ImperialEarthEmpire]

That is an important normal job n that post will never be abolished ever...

[@h.l.malazan5782]

That was actually my job but it didn't end there, I also did a lot of editing, communicating with customer emails, forming timetables for staff and for classes, following up on people taking sick days and leaves, creating business pamphlets, documenting grades, documenting sales, making copies, following repair, installments, purchases for office items, cleaning, doing reception full-time. I had two interns helping me for a while but near the end, they fired the interns for administration (me), and all that administration duties, everything I listed above, fell on me. And here we have a video from a tryhard philosopher nickel and diming, punching down, scrutinizing working people to no end just to feel mysterious on some political spectrum.

[@hugogodinez2477]

H. L. Malazan most people wont understand management, or the importance of tactic/strategic jobs. Thats why they have low impact and operative jobs and wont be promoted to a high paying job

[@siddislikesgoogle]

Fresh out of college I worked a job where we would review energy sector projects and enter them into a system for processing - data entry basically. So, the established and long standing target was for 8 projects completed per work day. Once I got the hang of it, I found a way of organizing myself I could get it all done in 2 hours max, so I would hit my target and then I would then spend the rest of the day playing chess on the computer or whatever else, to pass the time. My coworkers didn´t like it, and neither did my boss, the former because I risked getting the whole team stuck with higher targets and the latter because he had to make it look like he was "dynamically driving an energetic and highly motivated team" - he couldn´t have some newb showing how super simple the department´s task was. Anyway, after getting a dressing down, it was back to pretending to be working. Incredibly, my boss had only found out because one of my colleagues ratted on me - apparently she was unhappy that I was "slacking off" while she was "working very hard" , which was weird because I was in fact doing as much work as she was.

[@dacksonflux]

At my last job, one of my duties was to process all of the week's mail. Typically, someone in my position would do this over the course of the entire week. I figured out how to get it done in

[@ChefofWar33]

Remember, working harder is better than smarter in big companies. That is why you always work at small companies. They value the opposite.

[@aguysomewhere8277]

@@ChefofWar33 I've worked in smaller companies. You'd be surprised how much your mileage will vary with that statement. The number of small business owners/managers whose egos are too fragile to handle one of their underlings running facets of their office or business better than they could is astounding. They low-key feel like it undermines their authority and threatens their own credibility.

[@planetruths1373]

Lol I enjoyed this story.

[@barisafacan]

This is the main problem with today’s jobs. You dont get paid by the amount of work you accomplish, or the product you create or design; you get paid by the hour you spend sitting at your desk.

The most relatable thing about The Office is how naturally akward a lot of conversations are, one of the few series/movies to acutely represent how mediocre we tend to be when speaking in real life.

[@ikarosouza9505]

i think that's the reason why this show is so awesome, the dialogs are so fucking natural, it feels like the actors did'nt even had any dialog to read, just "talk about something with someone" or something like that in the script

[@cherricebrown7167]

Héctor Villa Fernández that’s why I love this show - I wish more shows would speak like regular people .

[@swimmingbirdblues2140]

For sure! Also, I love that all the actors look like real people. Real body types. Even Jim and Pam, the "hot ones", the romantic couple we're meant to aspire to (though, having re-watched the show as a 31 year old woman I see some major red flags that my underage self didn't have the experience to catch the first time around, I absolutely cannot stand Jim now) are normal looking.

[@savageantelope3306]

Héctor Villa Fernández agreeed

[@daniel27ad]

I guess there are many different kind of offices. I would have quit years ago if I had fuckers like the ones from this show who can't even pretend to show minimal interest in what you have to tell them. Simply can't believe how 800 people find this an accurate depiction of real life.

[@rey5118]

My brother and I worked at a corporation for years. I thought he was correct when he called it “daycare for adults.”

[@duncansiror5033]

What corporation if I may ask?

[@willardSpirit]

😂 True. Sometimes I feel children are more adults than the coworkers I work with

[@frrascon]

Yup. Modern corporations feel like a daycare. Especially the stupid trainings on "leadership" or whatever, they are super infantilizing.

[@Emajenus]

Mate, I've worked in a multinational corporation and it was hell. Whenever we were at the end of the month, we would work 16-20 hours a day for at least a week (every month), then we have to spend the next week catching up on the work we missed by the month closing. It was nonstop work under the idea of "agility", where it's totally acceptable to be called at 5am just to answer some bullshit questions. Where are these jobs that pay highly, give 3 hour breaks, and enable you to leave on time?

[@AnInsideJoke]

Meanwhile, Customer Service jobs (ESPECIALLY Food Service ones) feel like mental asylums. Jesus Christ, the accumulated stories I have from my 5 years each of Customer Service and Food service.

[@Deborah5000]

I trully sometimes ask myself if 80% of existing jobs are actually genuine jobs or just time consumption with pay

[@ChivasBarcelonaMex]

We're rolling around going nowhere at inhumane speeds with no stop in sight You learning how to shoot a ball through a metal hoop does very little by that scale

[@kaodi6993]

As a doctor I agree, most of training as junior doctor is stupid monotonous work on computer and shit. I should be studying but noooo. I have to be there at 7am to 5pm. Just to the consultant don’t need to be there through out the day.

[@yookeemookee]

@@ChivasBarcelonaMex I know you're referring to driving a car and playing basketball, but I must admit the way you describe them really does put into perspective how strange the former is and how mundane the latter is. But at least the former serves as transportation, and the latter is genuine entertainment and exercise.

[@coolioso808]

You are not far off in your estimation. We are working far more than we need to and that's driven by a BS capitalist system based on the cancerous drive for endless growth and profit. It's bananas. We need a fundamental economic change. I quite like the principles of a Library Economy presented by Andrewism and the Srsly Wrong Boys. We can have Ecological Luxury via a Library of Things-based economy. Access to abundance of what we need, but without the constant drive to produce, sell then trash our resources so a few head honchos can get stupidly more rich. We need system change and it's about time we collaborate and start working towards those ends.

[@PurpleDingoPress]

I've never been big on The Office, but I can say this with confidence: every job where I've ever been paid well, I wasn't doing anything valuable to earn it other than making my managers or other rich people look good. Every job where I've ever been paid poorly, I was helping people who had actual problems. I've only had one job that paid me well: finance journalist. I get paid to tell rich people what they want to hear. I am also forbidden from being truthful about anything else, like how racist, sexist, elitist, and xenophobic they are, or how wrong they are about how the economy works and how dogmatically zealous - and incorrect - they are about how they think capitalism works. Because of the coronavirus' effect on the economy, my chances of finding a new job are slim. I'm dead inside.

[@hendrixpuma]

That sucks

[@hblaub]

Yeah there are not a lot of independent media outlets still alive. I can name only one economic journalist and only one economic expert which are not following the "mainstream" view on financials. The others are simply repeating the line which is given by politics - instead of questioning them in any meaningful way.

[@LowestofheDead]

Pivot to telling rich people how they're beating Coronavirus effectively

[@STL-sl7zv]

If you can't find a job and others are making millions maybe....just maybe they're the ones who actually understand how the economy works. I agree with some of your points but its endlessly irritating to hear people imply that they understand economics and then say in the same thought that they probably can't even get a job

[@ritam8767]

Who cares, you got paid well right? What else do you need?

[@wolfhawk1999]

I've had people at my work mad at me for being too efficient

[@ribbonquest]

I am often told to slow down and not admit when I've run out of stuff to do. By my team lead.

[@fenrirgg]

@@ribbonquest Yeah, well, in a job I was very efficient so my boss gave me more responsibilities, with time I had all her responsibilities and mine, I was doing all the job and she constantly yelled by phone to her boss that she was too busy for more responsibilities so she managed to delegate them to people that had to travel for hours to make the job, I learned so much there, lol.

[@boscovallejo-nagera6073]

Read "The Peter Principle"

[@urbanprecariat]

Every day of my life, OP. Wow, I'm not alone.. 🤯

[@urbanprecariat]

@db photographer fucking mascohistic class cucks, haters. Pure evil. I wish you the best of luck. It's crazy at these jobs. 🍻

[@jeffkuunz9439]

I literally work at a company that sells paper bought from someone else. I can't watch this show.

[@theman9048]

I use to do that too

[@rugvedkulkarni1593]

Somtimes you just need to laugh at yourself.

[@what9480]

So, usually what happens is your company operates at an efficiency of scale or deliverables that Office Depot, etc can't meet. Office Depot, in turn, isn't interested in meeting this need because there's not enough money in the paper business to justify it. I imagine your company is slowly downsizing as well.

[@venomtang]

Fake news

[@wpscz]

A distributor?

[@destinedtofail6518]

The Office came out while I was in junior high. It taught me that, as long as I had a job where I could see myself making an impact, what I was doing was not pointless. Now that I’m months away from being 30, and am still stocking shelves for a living, I can still see that what I do has at least some, if not small, impact on the community around me. To me, that’s something.

[@mira394]

Your username disagrees

[@boyunderbridge]

I did checkouts at a supermarket for 7 years. Through highschool and uni. Then I stared the corporate world. But I look back at those 7 years and think at least I had real relationships with customers and got to make things fun for my co-workers.

[@jamesdragonforce]

One shelf at a time son.

[@JoshuaWillis89]

I’ve never had a BS job, but as a teacher, I had my fair share of BS tasks to complete. The pointless bureaucracy never ceases.

[@franky1650]

Also there are people (likely in the very school that you work at) whose jobs and even promotion depend on creating BS tasks for you.

[@_samaa]

It's sad that you being a teacher, someone very useful, also have to do BS tasks. smh

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Modern teaching is a BS job. Teaching kids to a syllabus that teaches no useful skills, and is often full of progressive indoctrination, is a BS job.

[@Lumberjack_king]

@@mirzaahmed6589 “progressive indoctrination” uhh what

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

@@Lumberjack_king It is.

[@Vinc90]

Once I worked in a callcenter, that day we had to call random people and ask if they got their paper delivered, to check on the paperboy. After a while, the supervisor came over to tell me that I have too many people saying that yes, they got their newspaper, for our client to find it believable. I needed to enter "no" into the system more often, despite that being an obvious lie. I never felt so useless

[@david102994]

hey, you weren't useless. Your job was to cater to the client's feelings. Like most other bullshit jobs.

[@jeremya392]

I am sure you managed to save the paper some money by justifying their prejudices against the moron peasants who cant even deliver a paper right and clearly dont deserve any kind of recognition for their work ethic.

[@kyneticfilms]

Vinc90 time to pursue that dormant dream Brobi-wan Kenobi

[@rin55]

my god

[@Vinc90]

Thank god I had that job only for a short time. I quit short after and now , years later I play and teach music, so I‘ve a safe distance to that world

[@lenardregencia]

“And I knew exactly what to do. But in a much more real sense, I had no idea what to do.” - Michael Scott

[@Epoch11]

It really sucks getting paid good money to do nothing yep really sucks get paid lots of money to do nothing

[@Emajenus]

@@Epoch11 Where are those jobs that pay for doing nothing? I've worked in finance for years, and you get worked to the bone (sometimes worked literal 20 hour days). Which profession does nothing?

[@cricrielectro]

@@Emajenus what you didn't catch is that everyone looked like they are working, while they actually weren't. You were the only one working.

[@Lemonpinesol]

@@Emajenus Most jobs in the tech industry, if you have a bit of a brain you can usually automate 50% of your work week if you dont work at a particularity big company.

[@Hugatree1]

That is the story of my life

[@Dragonwing16]

this really explains why friends of mine that work in an office constantly ask about my job (which is being a biologist, I work in Brazil) and i like my job it's gratifying i enjoy it, but you know it's a job. But my friends look at me like i'm indiana jones that just came back from an adventure. When the fires happened here and i was helping people put them out for a month they made a surprise party for me when i went back into the city like wtf.

[@PSN_OGRE]

Maybe it's not the job, but you that they liked, why else would they throw a surprise party

[@adamwoolston253]

This legitimately gave me an existential crisis. I’m seriously considering quitting my job now because I can’t justify its existence to myself

[@lorsange1107]

Are you sure? Looking for a job in the middle of a pandemic is hell. I have been jobless for at least 7 months and nobody's hiring.

[@khushim7231]

Did you do it?

[@adamwoolston253]

@@khushim7231 I did, actually. And I got another job that promoted me to management within 3 months. I now make $40k a year more than my old job, and feel way more fulfilled by the work I’m doing.

[@khushim7231]

@@adamwoolston253 Thats so cool! Good for you!

[@sergio_henrique]

@@adamwoolston253 wth What a success story in a random KZbin comment.

[@khatnippod]

I’ve worked plenty of BS jobs. The Office was a way of escapism and just a mental break of it all. Sad it’s leaving Netflix

[@KnowledgeSeeker78491]

I was unaware that there were non bs jobs that my black ass could get

[@KnowledgeSeeker78491]

@Adolf Schinkler The only thing about being black and working for yourself is that usually later in life you find yourself broke, in debt and no insurance...I'd rather be miserable in my 20's and middle ages with a safety net in my senior years then chasing happiness in my 20's and middle ages and then having reality hit me in my face hard in my senior years

[@behindthefern2846]

Satire is the best

[@khatnippod]

Knowledge Seeker 78 I think there’s a better way to life than misery. Hope you can see that one day.

[@TheSeppentoni]

@@KnowledgeSeeker78491 Unfortunately that safetynet is also lie.

[@SupervoidCinema]

''Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me."

[@ashleycoonfield9051]

No, that was Micheal Scott.

[@alleyoliver3315]

ScissorMeTimbers Quote is literally in this video...?

[@romanski5811]

But then they're not afraid of you but rather of the love that they give to you.

[@anthonyadams9563]

Worlds best boss

[@gimmeallurmoney3883]

@Mr Temporal like the way you think Temporal-Senpai!

[@m.l.anderson3336]

When I first entered the workforce, I could not believe how I got scolded for doing my work too quickly/efficiently. If I had a moment to myself at my desk, the manager would just give me useless busy work to make me appear busier. It was incredible to me how inefficiency was incentivized.

[@pepitoclavo1clavito610]

You are gorgeous!

[@m.l.anderson3336]

Thank you 🙂

[@pepitoclavo1clavito610]

@@m.l.anderson3336 No, I'm serious. I REALLY mean it. Whoever is your partner, they are so lucky!

[@m.l.anderson3336]

Pepito Clavo 1 clavito you’re very kind! Thank you. I’ve been happily married to a good man for a just week shy of 11 years now. 🙂

[@pepitoclavo1clavito610]

@@m.l.anderson3336 Congratulations! Where are you from?

[@mikeyvee2451]

My boss makes a dollar and I make a dime, that’s why I’m shittin on company time

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

The corporate latter is the stupidest climb, the only joy I can get is just spitting these rhymes!

[@ekenks8650]

I worked a TA position in a department that really didn’t have a need for me. I was supposed to make suggestions for changes to social media & campus outreach, but the actual work took maybe 2 hours out of the 20 I was expected to work each week, and I couldn’t actually implement my suggestions without the consent of overworked regular staff that ignored them because, if they didn’t get a new TA after me to keep it up, the changes weren’t sustainable. So, in the end, a large portion of my time was spent sitting in an uncomfortable office chair, listening to wisecrack vids through my earbuds. Same bullshit work, different day

[@Kurotaisa]

Why not spending the rest of those 18 hours playing WoW?

[@JohnDoe-xp6dr]

lucky

[@syber-space]

I had one of those for a bit... Got hired by the library to oversee and assist students in 3D printing and making technologies. Never looked back. The inefficiency and absurdity of the engineering schools still amazes me.

[@JCasR3]

I felt this spiritually

[@ryanfuxa6738]

Just curious.....How much did you get paid for this job?

[@MelodicQuest]

I'm a cashier and the worst dream I ever had was me as a cashier scanning items in a never-ending line of customers. At that moment, I truly believed I somehow ended up in Hell.

[@BeczaBot]

i'm not a cashier but that just seems so damn relatable

[@SharkAcademy]

Technically that is literally what it is. There is an infinite never ending line of customers. Think about it, as long as the place is open there will always be customers needing to check out so it's never ending.

[@MelodicQuest]

@@SharkAcademy Trust me. I'm well aware of the irony.

[@1x93cm]

I'm glad I don't have dreams anymore

[@MnementhBronze]

@@SharkAcademy the difference is, thankfully in real life, you get a break once in while.

[@MisBabbles]

At my bs job I genuinely worked with a Dwight and my supervisor was Michael Scott without the charm. Part of the appeal of the show is these people exist in the world.

[@georgia673]

Yep, we have a "Dwight". IT nerd guy who is really into gymnastics and Elon Musk and likes to think his brain works like a robot. Always trying to make work "fun" because he's bored and loves attention. I don't hate him or anything but good lord he can be exhausting sometimes...

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@georgia673 "Always trying to make work fun because he's bored and loves attention" So he's like a Dwight with some elements of Jim?

[@simplymatt6140]

i should not have watched this before my job interview

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

Did the interview go okay?

[@binobravo5616]

I really want to know how this turned out. Either way, it's depressing lmao.

[@arto_1790]

well, I did the same thing

[@chadsworthgigafuck7076]

Let us know how it went

[@47chromeAKs]

the aggressive promotion of Wix has made me suspicious of the site. Blink twice if they're holding you hostage

[@isheetfromaswhole3657]

Do you want money? If yes, then brown goes down

[@masked8256]

todd johnson when I read that he lit blinked twice together

[@moartems5076]

Death to Wix! All Hail Squarespace!

[@alraei1070]

Bro it's patriotism it's a jew promoting the biggest Israeli tech company. I don't blame him really that's how it should be

[@CJusticeHappen21]

We do not watch for the thrill of seeing others suffer. We watch for the thrill of seeing them endure, and the hopes that perhaps we too may endure.

[@lilyhanachan]

This is beautiful

[@alexpage10]

And that's the difference between british and american comedy.

[@JasonZakrajsek]

I watch to see them suffer.

[@thomas.02]

@@alexpage10 i suppose the difference is what's at the end of the suffering: American: there's hope, we can endure, we'll fight through it British: there's only ever going to be more suffering. might as well see the fun in it and enjoy this

[@alexpage10]

@@thomas.02 Exactly. That's why in british comedy the characters don't evolve that much.

[@aaronseet2738]

As a professional in the IT industry developing large enterprise software systems, my experience is that of how horrifyingly often people underestimate just how _much_ work - due diligence with meticulous discipline for attention to detail - is actually required to get things done _properly_ . Cost and schedule overruns are rampant in the industry, because people look at the high-level concept and think it's all simple and quick, when in reality there're simply not enough people and hours per day to consolidate all the operational details necessary to ensure all the pieces come together top to bottom in a well-oiled fashion. Yes, some BS jobs might exist, but there's a real shortage of real competent professionals who can actually roll up their sleeves and make things happen and work.

[@dacksonflux]

"but but... becoming qualified is haaaaaaaaaaaard"

[@hepthegreat4005]

Dilbert documents this well. A few good employees, more bad employees getting paid off the good employees work.

[@what9480]

It's not that as much as people are wise enough to fear any form of automation by simply saying, oh, you can't possibly do that. How could you do X automatically? Because, well, if you actually automate the simple task that they do every day then what are they going to do?

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@what9480 I think you replied to the wrong comment. Did you mean to reply to that guy who said he automated away most of his job filling in Excel spreedsheets using computer software?

[@what9480]

@@SurprisinglyDeep No, that threat also happens in the exact scenario as described here. People will intentionally work against automation into an ERP system.

[@Quentin-je8jd]

Actually, I worked once for a startup and my job was litterally to fill Excel columns with email adresses and to create categories of adresses, in order to send spams to a lot of people. Eventhough i could do it from my bed, I was more or less compelled to stay in office from 8am to 6pm, producing no real social value (oh wait economic theories consider that an activity is valuable as soon as soon someone is ready to pay for it and that market economy retributes workers according To their fair contribution). It was completely boring, pointless and even nocive... but it was supposed to be cool since i had the title of "community manager" and i worked in a startup company in the medias... now i am teaching philosophy and critical thinking in High school. Not always easy (i work in the impoverished northern suburban areas of Paris... the so called "no go zone" according to foxnews), but clearly more satisfying and (i hope so at least) more useful. But many politicians and journalists are constantly reminding us that teachers are lazy civil servants costing too much, so i am really wondering how contemporary managerial capitalism defines value and usefullness...

[@MegaMediagamer]

Funny enough I did a summer job similar to that. All I did was print emails and names to excel sheet and few other odd jobs around the start up(repairing windows). They even gave me a special title as well like "senior apprentice" of the hardware team. I left tho and now work in retail . Welp I still got a ways to go to find a fulfilling job like you did

[@psilocybemusashi]

i have never heard any politician refer to teachers as lazy. there are so many of them it probably wouldn't be good for re election so i think you are exaggerating. good thing i was taught to think critically in school though. im sure you are a wonderfully important person doing a wonderfully meaningful job. keep believing that.

[@FrVitoBe]

imagine if you had a whole work team doing the same, and you as a fresh guy comes in, gets bored out of his mind and thinks cant this be automated? Suggesting this gets negative reply from the team or/and team manager cacus this could cost your team jobs.

[@shuaguin5446]

@@psilocybemusashi Trust me the lazy teacher is a french political meme.

[@kaizen5023]

Holy shit, you're teaching critical thinking at a high school? Good for you man, that is FUCKING AWESOME, a critically necessary skill most people are missing in this age of disinformation and misinformation. Good on ya, mate!!!

[@CynicalHistorian]

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation" - Henry David Thoreau

[@CynicalHistorian]

@@burbanpoison2494 hah, thanks...and amended

[@trentrossdale638]

Wow so damn true.

[@HeyCharlieBrown]

we need to re-define work, We need to introduce UBI to America Universal basic income #Yanggang Google Andrew Yang Joe Rogan or Andrew Yang H3

[@axnyslie]

Roger Waters was obviously a Thoreau fan as "quiet desperation" shows up in several Pink Floyd lyrics.

[@user-ey4rn1zf2w]

@@HeyCharlieBrown Joe Rogan is a low info voter and really not a bright guy. It appears you have completely missed the point of this video, which is that people need to feel USEFUL. Simply GIVING people money to live makes people depressed, because nobody NEEDS you. A person has to go out and DO something that there is a need for. Not just sit home and collect money like a welfare queen.

[@knaik]

NBC: Oh how the turntables.

[@nudnikjeff]

@ScissorMeTimbers sure. Don't you watch soaps? As the turntables"...

[@L_Qu]

They’re called “Colored Greens” “Collared Greens” is racist

[@movement2contact]

and that's... Dallas.

[@L_Qu]

ScissorMeTimbers thanks my dude

[@KarlGrandMaison]

California is bankrupt! California California!!

[@MrBrokenSorrow]

I identify with Jim the most. Someone who is really good at their job when they put actual effort into it but is also so beaten down from the pointlessness of it all, that he no longer cares about the work and feels the need to distract himself from the utter meaninglessness of it all, just to survive a single shift.

[@arniecalang4583]

I have a co-manager who literally knows and does nothing all day but acts busy. Our senior manager called me out because I was too efficient and I finished all my tasks ahead of time. Our office focuses too much on “perception management”.

[@jmitterii2]

I learned this over 14 years ago (can't believe that 2006 is that long ago, feels like yesterday). My second boss at my call center trainer job, told me perception is reality. I thought she was crazy. She was just being real. And yes, reality is crazy. The other freaky thing you'll find out about life, the wealthier the person or just more prestige of a person truly is usually all hype. They're usually dumb as fucking box of rocks with un-relatable ambitions: some truly are narcissists looking for "trophies" as money was or is no longer an object, that trophies met, or was always on their wall since they were born or young via their family. Speaking of family members, they often want to one up their family members, or other rival families with these "trophies" which almost always include having most paid off politicians as their extended staff, becoming a politicians themselves (usually this is considered beneath the more wealthy dynasties), have the most public buildings or parks with their names on it or at least a commemoration with their name associated with the public work. More recently over the past 40 years, its to portfolio size comparison... so they're always looking to own more and more. The next household name wanna be: Some want to look like they're on the edge, the next Ford, Disney, or Einstein or at least someday become a legendary kitchen table name, not just an actor or musician who will be forgotten mostly in a hundred years by most and look archaic, but someone like Caesar, Ulysses S Grant, Faraday, Maxwell, Einstein, etc. Someone that will be referred about at least sometime in everyone's life. Some just want to be in the "club" of hundred millionaires or billionaires as their local pater patriae (father of the fathers). Similar to Cosimo the elder Medici received in Florence Italy. Even if some or all of their owned businesses are increasingly unprofitable either due to demand or they went way into debt, they don't care about the debt, the prestige that comes with being the Duce the big boss man and "taking care of his/her underlings" fills them with a sense of being loved and being very important at least in their little fiefdoms. In short, the really wealthy are in a different world of perception. And its completely unrelated to the rest of us peasants. And its probably not good for the rest of us as they have a near absolute influence over local government, as well as national government; and a complete influence over economics. And these people aren't necessarily smart. Most of them are actually quite dimwitted and again disconnected from reality.... well at least the reality that about 95% of the population of the US exist in. I guess what I'm trying to say: the one's steering the ship, if simplified to anyone or set of people steering anything, are all bat shit insane.

[@grotoiler6104]

@@jmitterii2 Out of interest, how would you recommend us "peasants" enter this "upper-class" world?

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@jmitterii2 This is a good enough comment I think you should post it in the regular comments and not just as a reply. You'd likely get lots of upvotes that way.

[@Zerradable]

@@sj.2156 this type os comment is like that "Friendzone" incel bullsh**, but for jobs

[@LostRhodes]

I had a job once that was taken BS. I would point it out to them, telling them there was no work for me to ever do and what's the point of sitting at my desk and pretending to do work. They told me to do it anyways. So I said, what's the difference between me doing no work here and doing no work at home? And they fired me. I couldn't watch The Office. It stresses me out.

[@anonymus6556]

you should have tried just to disappear like andy did in the office

[@strikethanatos3745]

Should have seen about a work from home option.

[@saveriosassetti229]

I was a substitute guardian for a church that had a small annexed museum, all I had to do was making sure no one damaged the property or disturbed others, besides that I could do whatever I wanted as long as I did it in silence and was polite to the visitors. say what you will about bs jobs but being paid 700$ a month as a high school student for playing on my switch under my desk and giving directions to the ocasional lost tourist felt quite good to me

[@SoulDevoured]

Most places REALLY do not like you pointing out inefficiencies. Usually because it means they might actually have to do some more work. And they don't want that. Nope, the kinda work they like is sounding important and that's about it.

[@djbenihana88]

Same, it somehow stresses me out as well.

[@thegoodlord6518]

Shoutout to Sisyphus, the original man with a BS work!

[@WisecrackEDU]

☝️

[@huckthatdish]

Atlas has shitty work, Sisyphus has bullshit work. Perfect way to explain it.

[@AlkisGD]

Sisyphus was in the Greek equivalent of hell and that was his torture. It wasn't even penal labor.

[@acosmicstoic9276]

Ya but unlike us, sisyphus has bs work that has an immediate and visible effect

[@CountDVB]

@@acosmicstoic9276 But the whole point was that it was a punishment for being a colossal d!ck

[@nickvoncloft4566]

9:39 you just described my job to a "T" - I work in IT.....in a warehouse that sells books, 95% of my day is "looking busy" - but I need to be there for 40 hours a week just to pay rent.

[@Caeon]

My favorite was a meeting to discuss a meeting for an upcoming internal meeting in a 50 people company. Solid power move hiring that ex-government CEO.

[@martinstabler2302]

"You couldn't handle my undivided attention."

[@__-cd9ug]

This idea of jobs whose purpose is just to make other jobs look necessary makes me think of another fitting Michael Scott quote "Is there a god? If not, what are all these churches for? And who is Jesus's dad?"

[@rach3092]

Jesus is his OWN dad. It's fucking confusing which is why I don't like Christianity tbh...I find it weird lol

[@coldcovoi5408]

Rachtop not your place to judge someone else’s religious beliefs

[@rach3092]

@@Fabi_87 see?? That's confusing! xD

[@rach3092]

@@coldcovoi5408 So? It's just my opinion... I'm an atheist. So yeah I'm gonna judge. Sorry not sorry.

[@mr.jameson218]

BookDraco No one has a "place" my dude. Do you judge the Nazis for what they did? Of course you. Your beliefs are not special, get used to it, egg.

[@plr2473]

I've had B.S. office jobs in the past where I was basically paid to look busy, and got decent money doing it. But I hated being in that situation. The hours went by so slowly, I was constantly bored, and there was always that nagging fear that I would be exposed. I am now a teacher and I work with kids. It is non-stop work with a lot of responsibilities I have to take home like grading, student assessments, and lesson planning. But I don't mind because the long summer vacation makes up for it. And I feel I am actually doing something important for society which is also personally fulfilling.

[@element4element4]

Sadly, David Graeber suddenly passed away a few months ago. It's very sad to be reminded of this again, he still had a lot to contribute to this world. But amazing video, thanks for making it.

[@maddie9602]

I've worked a number of food service jobs before that did have a decent amount of actual work in short, concentrated bursts ... spread out between long stretches of off-hours where we were expected to look busy at all times despite there not actually being any work to do. In between meal rushes, all of the actually useful cleaning and prep work for the next rush could easily be handled in twenty minutes, but actually doing so would lead to the manager at best sending you off to polish doorknobs or some bullshit like that, or at worst being reprimanded for wasting company time. So you learn to stretch twenty minutes worth of work into three hours, sweeping the same patch of floor over and over again, wiping down tables that are already clean, generally trying your best to look productive even if you're doing nothing of value. Luckily, I'm out of that grind, at least for now, since I've gotten a job as a lab assistant to one of the professors at my university, where it's much less common to not have anything productive to be doing, and if I legitimately can't do anything useful until a reagent arrives or a piece of equipment gets repaired, my boss doesn't insist on me pretending otherwise.0

[@jaredsheaff939]

If you got time to lean, you got time to clean.

[@poobs2361]

I live in Hawaii and food service here is a fuckin nightmare. Unless you’re working for some unknown hole in the wall the population on the island is so condensed that rushes can easily go on for 2-3 hours. You can never prep too much. You can never run out of things to move around or clean. Have you already checked that everything’s covered and labeled? The delivery truck is here, time to shovel food into the freezer. You were too slow, the next rush is already here. It’s absurd. I’m currently working at an on-site warehouse and I’ve never been happier, but I’ve never even seen a job as described in this video where you get paid to do nothing and take 3 hour breaks

[@timelord700]

better than me who has to cover the entire restaurant myself at peak times, with Karen screaming that her pizza is five seconds late!!!

[@ruicosta4000]

Holy crap, very Insightful! thanks

[@victordavila9812]

I get you man I once speent hours cuting garlic just to have something to do and I think that if that were to be my job for the rest of my Life i would kill myself

[@punkrocker1377]

I made a point to tell myself at an early age that I would never work behind a desk. I'm a welder/fitter in a construction metal shop and honestly couldn't be happier doing the work I do.

[@punkrocker1377]

@SuperMich66 not be bothered about what?

[@BigHenFor]

You're the exception. Most people endure their work.

[@hipporage18]

I was a janitor at 1 point... I now love my office job.

[@burbanpoison2494]

Your boss pays an AI to report that comment to him next time you're due for a raise.

[@kdot7175]

@@burbanpoison2494 Man call me naive but are you SERIOUS?

[@KC-wb7lq]

I’ve said this for the longest! They should really just do the on call approach doctors take. Be available from 9 to 5 or whatever your hours are, do what you need to do and get on with your day. People waste so much time and money commuting to these jobs and sitting in cubicles for 8 hours trying to stretch work that honestly only takes 2 hours

[@forman208]

It makes so much logical sense that of course it'll never happen. Why we're still stuck on the 9-5 schedule of nearly a century ago, before modern technology like computers existed, is beyond me

[@firepro983]

@@sj.2156 But if *enough* people actually start working 4 jobs, the national productivity would increase 4X. Meaning technology and innovation would increase, and improve the standard of living to a point where you could work less hours.

[@VoidThePerpetual]

I once interned at a corporate headquarters. My job consisted of 5% doing random bullshit nobody else wanted to, 20% filling out spreadsheets, and 75% doing whatever the fuck I wanted because nobody cared. I was praised for the amount of work I got done in my time there.

[@IMatchoNation]

Wisecrack: come to feel smart, stay for the growing sense of proletarian rage building in the pit of your stomach as your life drifts by in quiet desperation.

[@TheDrinkyDude]

You get used to it, learn to understand that none of this matters, you work a job for money and than use that money for hobbies and distractions and that makes you not happy but content

[@smaakjeks]

@@TheDrinkyDude And try to find a meaningful job. Not always possible, of course, and it probably requires that you move out of town or even state.

[@TheDrinkyDude]

@@smaakjeks dude you are not your job, if you want to matter help people donate money, jobs are not meaningful they are jobs

[@JewTube001]

@@TheDrinkyDude big chance those donations are being whittled away into meaningless jobs as well. non-profits are no better than corps and goverment in that regard

[@ayram617]

Too accurate

[@13JaeJae]

Whoa, I'm watching this at work and I've never felt so depressed

[@mrscreamer379]

No wonder. Its a Saturday. What are you doing at work on a Saturday? Surely the very fact you need to be there on a Saturday means your job is important. Otherwise why the hell else do they want you at work on the weekend?

[@blackpearl2341]

Burger King is the busiest during weekends

[@13JaeJae]

@@mrscreamer379 lol I'm broke and sad enough to need a weekend job to pay my rent fam

[@stevenash1238]

From a certain point of view. All jobs are BS.

[@JerichoMoon]

First thing Monday morning, and here I am commenting to say: Same tbh.

[@dallascopp4798]

I was a visual security guard at Macy's. My job was to just stand there in the hope I would scare people into not stealing the expensive clothing. Most of the time it consisted of standing for hours on my phone with no real tasks to complete and no customers to watch. The common theives that would come in eventually caught onto the fact I couldn't wouldn't stop them because the store was afraid of getting sued, so they would try to make it look like they weren't stealing in front of me and then would leave as I watched them go out the door. After a few months, I got tired of standing there doing nothing, stopping no one and finding ripped off tags everywhere so I left.

[@marklucachev6695]

I worked in technical writing for several years. Most miserable, soul-sucking job I've had. The company was paid millions to produce a document a month. They gave me the work, said it should take me a month. Trying to be helpful, I finished it in two weeks. I was quietly pulled aside and reprimanded for finishing it too quickly and efficiently. "Now what are you going to do for the rest of the month? We'll have to come up with something. Just... try to be busy for now." That encapsulated my experience there :/

[@rezachoudhury823]

Sitting in a BS job trying to look busy... While watching a video about BS jobs with people trying to look busy.

[@behindthefern2846]

Nice. I do that every day.

[@Illiyeen_Jameel]

What is your job?

[@behindthefern2846]

@@Illiyeen_Jameel i write emails all day.

[@512TheWolf512]

@@behindthefern2846 you're a spam bot???

[@Sarah-eh7bw]

Sucks doesn’t it? Been there. If you can, get your company to set you up to work from home. It still sucks, but at least you don’t have to pretend to be busy and stretch your work out to last all day.

[@AGaiman]

Toby becomes a cause by moonlighting as a local serial killer. Strangling fills his life with purpose.

[@gusmonster59]

I'd fake work all day if I could find a job that will pay enough to live on.

[@TheCrazzyGuy11]

Jesus that pathetic

[@KGBos]

@@TheCrazzyGuy11 you’d do it too

[@TheCrazzyGuy11]

@@KGBos not at all, I’d rather work hard and continue to better myself and my quality of life. That’s being comfortable with what you got, you obviously got no drive to do more. You ain’t doing yourself or your kids no favours being a bum ass just to have a easy life

[@jakubwroblewski2712]

If you have any ambition you wouldnt make it past 3 months - that''s when most people quit such jobs

[@ivandankob7112]

There are people who have big issues with capitalism but have no problems consuming its products.

[@Amphroxia]

i have been plagued by depression and anxiety for a long time now, and this Graeber guy is a genius, I've had trouble explaining to professionals what i really desire and this is exactly that. (and probably what everyone wants) "to matter". that the things you do, actually have a purpose. thanks so much, great video!

[@fahadhussain66]

We're in the same boat.

[@Studio-es5mt]

As someone who has always worked real blue collar jobs with real demands, stress, and expectations of results, my new BS office job is a breath of fresh air. On average I send 10 emails a day but only when they are sent to me first. The rest of my day is spent looking busy while surfing the internet. And let's not forget the salary is more than I have ever made in my life. I thank God for this opportunity every day.

[@lanceash]

"God" had nothing to do with it.

[@Studio-es5mt]

Lance Ash it’s funny how that is triggered you. GGz.

[@a.demifemiflapo5795]

@@lanceash God has everything to do with it.

[@secretscarlet8249]

Maybe that's what's needed to appreciate this kind of job. After a stressful job, a monotonous one is positively relaxing. Hmm, maybe the people taking monotonous jobs need to take risky jobs then?

[@Nimbereth]

@@Studio-es5mt Atheists, mate. The worst kind of people.

[@JuanUys]

And here I thought paying for KZbin Premium meant I never have to see another WiX ad ever again...

[@potmki6601]

True, what's the point of premium and patreon, if they force me to watch ads anyway?

[@postindustrial76]

Get adblocker its free

[@beastmasterbg]

adblocker?

[@jenm1]

@@postindustrial76 It's built in the video

[@postindustrial76]

@@jenm1 I know but why waste money for something that could be free

[@J-oker251]

I had a job where I was contracted for 6 months, there no work to do after 2 months. Every day I had to go to work pretend to work, but I did was play solitaire on my PC. I was 23 at the time and it felt crushing, like wasting my life.

[@sufjan4877]

What do you do now?

[@dacksonflux]

I used to work as an admin assistant for a crappy home builder. I had the job completely automated within two weeks of being hired. I once got caught working on my own laptop for my side-gig. X'D

[@ArcaneOwlchemist]

I've never watched The Office, but this made me feel a lot better about my job as an administrative assistant. I am a duct-taper.

[@F00Lsmack]

I got to make my own position at my job lol, I would it Planning and Development Assistant. I think Assistant is the perfect word for the kind of jobs required to deal with the piles of bull shit heaped over the amount of actual work that gets done.

[@leonardoalfonso7080]

I work for an amazon warehouse while coping with a dysfunctional family. Let's hope nursing school pays off and I will feel good directly helping people. Being the cause of their betterment.

[@dontrelate465]

Leonardo Alfonso The best of luck to you

[@Hardrive2677]

I wish you and your family the best.

[@dontrelate465]

Edmundo Zaragoza All you need is a medical license recognized by the state at the minimum and a business license to start your own private healthcare business. Of course that’s very broad and you need skilled employees who have medical and administrative experience, but I plan to do this. There’s more than one way to make an impact.

[@mikezerker6925]

Leonardo Alfonso after you graduate get an NP degree... they’re in high demand now

[@pandalyn2267]

Leonardo. I work a corp job that's sucking the life out of me. I'm applying to nursing school next year. At least it'll be a new challenge even though it will come with its own negatives. Here's hoping the positives outweigh them.🤗

[@bamfhoneybadger]

I believe the movie "Waiting..." touched on all this as well, and went further into the aspect of dealing with the ups and downs of workplace culture and politics and dealing with the customers. I highly suggest that movie, it's incredibly underrated.

[@HeyCharlieBrown]

Evan Pahl we need to re-define work, We need to introduce UBI to America Universal basic income #Yanggang Google Andrew Yang Joe Rogan or Andrew Yang H3

[@saiyangodbroly26]

Discussions like this are always interesting to me because no matter who you talk to, that particular person is always the competent one at their job. They're the one who is most efficient and valuable and it's everyone but them who doesn't know how to do anything. And if you spoke to that person they claim doesn't know how to do anything, that person would say the same but in reverse. I always wonder where the actual people who can't do the work are, because according to each individual person, they don't exist.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Hahahahaha great comment

[@FullRamenAlch3mist]

There's a Japanese word for what these jobs are lacking. Or rather, in general, just what jobs should have, what someone's purpose should be. A job that offers fulfillment should follow it's guide line. That word is: *Ikigai* It means "a reason for being." It has 4 central tenets that a job must follow in order to be fulfilling. 1. Something you are Good/Talented at. 2. Something you Enjoy/Love doing. 3. Something that Pays well (at least well enough for you to make a living bc you need $$ to survive) 4. Something that is Needed/the world needs. These areas can overlap, for example, something that you are good at and enjoy doing would be considered a Passion, something you are good at that pays well would be considered a Profession, something you enjoy doing that the world needs would be considered a Mission, or something that the world needs that also pays well is a Vocation etc. But in order to find true fulfillment, you need something that is a Passion, a Profession, a Mission, and a Vocation. You need all 4 in order to feel and know that you have "a reason for being." I wish schools would teach more concepts like this. Im not saying it's scientific fact but philosophy in general would benefit children greatly and help them grow into prominent members of society instead of the system that just chews them in and spits them out at 18 with barely any knowledge of the real world like how to do taxes (which they should teach) or any inkling of an improved emotional intelligence (which is expected of them to develop on their own) so we end up with people who have to go through life depressed until they figure it out and stressed and not really knowing how to problem solve or handling things in sometimes the worst ways imaginable such as these kids who commit school shootings. Im not saying philosophy can cure any of these but I am saying that philosophy teaches things through a different lense or teaches how to see thinigs through a different lense and that is greatly needed in todays society and so i believe it would greatly benefit the adolescent if it was somehow incorporated into middle or high school

[@JohnJohn-jq7cd]

I think the english word for ikigai would be "purpose".

[@rosemali3022]

I think a philosophy class and a logic class would be hugely beneficial. That and even teaching what the concept of intellectual integrity is.

[@HieronimousBosch]

In all the years I have been on KZbin and internet in general, reading comments, post, watching videos an so on, I have never ever found nothing so interesting, so sensible, so true. Thank you.

[@seven3652]

This deserves more likes. I definitely think that schools should start teaching these types of things. I'm a high school student myself, and at a young age I create my anxiety levels even higher because of the things school doesn't teach you about the real world. My mother has always told me that school will teach me everything, when that is not the case. Things like taxes, jobs, driving, and even health scare me. While they're schools that teach you these, they don't necessarily do a good job of it.

[@Argornash]

Totally agree. Very well said.

[@nicholasleon5584]

As a recent literature major-turned-college grad working an office job that pays me well but has nothing to do with my degree, I relate to this too much

[@angelgjr1999]

Liberal arts in general is a bit useless in the modern economy. 50% of grads get a job outside of their major. Nobody will admit it, but college is mostlty useless.

[@milesfurther4395]

Exact same. You get a “day job” to pay the bills thinking you’ll do something creative in your free time, but it quickly becomes your job-job

[@qohenleth4472]

Oh yeah, same thing here.

[@Torus2112]

@@angelgjr1999 Good luck getting a useless office job without a useless degree to prove you're smart enough to operate microsoft word.

[@angelgjr1999]

Torus2112 I know right. And that’s a shame. Most young people today have been using Microsoft office since they were 6. Schools literally train us to be office zombies.

[@henrygustavekrausse7459]

"We buy It from a manufacturer and sell it to a business for more than we payed for it." Reselling what you bought with markup actually was considered a sin in the middle ages. That's why capitalist economies didn't form in Europe until the renaissance.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Really?

[@henrygustavekrausse7459]

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Yes, the sin of usury. The Middle East was far more successful than Europe during this period, which may have had something to do with Islam being more business-friendly.

[@chrisza9782]

It's 4:37AM, Saturday. Been up all night working on a powerpoint my superiors insisted I make for a monthly meeting. Will have 5 minutes to breeze through it. Half the people in the room won't understand the concept, the other half won't give a shit (and I don't blame them). Plot twist: civil engineer. This BS of fabricating work to do has permeated into every industry.

[@2x2is22]

The Office didn't put my BS job into context. This video did tho. I was a security guard for a heavily regulated part of the energy sector. It was the perfect blend of government regulation and private sector bureaucracy. Individuals from both sides would go all too far in attempting to justify the existence of their jobs, ultimately costing the company millions in overhead. Don' get me wrong, this particular area needed security as going without it was not wise. However, let's just say there was about 150 guards where 15 would have done just fine. The same can be said about the staff, where each individual staff member somehow fits all five of the categories covered at 17:17. I left it all a few years ago for a trade where I work twice as hard for half as much, and I don't regret it one bit.

[@Emajenus]

Security is boring, not BS. It's a job specifically tailored towards preventing anything out of the ordinary from happening.

[@jaysway9251]

Work twice as hard for half as much? Why...

[@MichaelDavis-cy4ok]

I feel your pain. In the past year and a half I've built database tools that save my office (government job) about 30,000 staff hours per year. Now supervisors and managers are engaging in antics that would blow your mind to try to justify their own employment, which ends up making the actual workers' lives even WORSE THAN BEFORE. Now the managers are transferring me because I think they've realized that given another year I could automate 80 percent of the worthless turds (the managers) out of a job completely.

[@Anthonypython]

@@MichaelDavis-cy4ok Sounds about right.

[@zeromailss]

@@jaysway9251 Because life is not just about money? True that not having money will make you miserable but after a certain point having more money will not increase your happiness level, countless research shows that Before my parent divorced I live in a fairly luxurious mansion in a high-class neighborhood, but then I leave with my mom and now I live in a normal house a bit far from the city with a normal neighborhood. Everything in my lifestyle is a downgrade from before but am I less happy now? no, I'm happier than ever. I live free and my mom too

[@zyaicob]

"Dwight, on the other hand, revels in bureaucracy." Pretty much sums it up

[@m0j0e97]

I have no idea why I like the office so much. I’ve been watching it litterally every day for over 5 years, I can say almost every line in every episode. But I still laugh at the jokes, I can still find some new way to relate to the show every single time I watch it.

[@rishabhanand4973]

i think the reason for bs jobs is that due to technology, we have become efficient to the point that we do not need everyone working, but we have an economy that tanks when too many people are unemployed. thus the harm of having people unemployed outweighs the harm of them being employed in a bs job. not to mention, because of many factors, the companies that have the most bs jobs, are also the largest and most established, which leads to them being profitable anyway even with all the bs jobs within it.

[@MrCmon113]

Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever. Companies don't create bullshit jobs for the general good, they are just inefficient. They fail to establish proper management processes and they are incompetent. Being inefficient doesn't mean you automatically die. Look at Koalas, they are still around.

[@Shoeless598]

Your comparing human beings to koalas 😂, jesus christ lol

[@edwardheaney3641]

@@Shoeless598 "Oh no, you can't make analogies. That requires me to have the mental capacity for abstraction"

[@LowestofheDead]

"The companies that have the most bs jobs, are also the largest and most established, which leads to them being profitable anyway even with all the bs jobs within it" It's almost like corporate monopolies who can buy their competition destroy free market efficiency and our job satisfaction. Oh, and the climate too.

[@heavymetalmixer91]

"Being forced to do pointless tasks" is the definition of hell and despair.

[@miweergrum7279]

Like life?

[@nothingtoseehere6142]

@Private Time Maybe we are in Hell...

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

@@miweergrum7279 No one forces me to go for a nice long run that I enjoy, or have sex, or eat pizza. But sometimes I am forced to pretend like I'm working or stretch orders out to fill in an 8-10 hour workday without being allowed to go outside for 5 minutes, or read a book, or play cards with people while we wait for some real work to be done. Jobs are hell.

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

@KYLE CHAMPAGNE learn a skill or many skills and set yourself up away from typical jobs. High school is a CAKEWALK compared to 40 to 60 hour workweeks of soul crushing monotonous bullshit. Assuming you are still in high school of course...

[@Pazuzu4All]

Sisyphus would agree.

[@anthonyt425]

I felt this video on a spiritual level.

[@wildfireman13]

I'm watching this while doing nothing at work because my job takes 2hrs everyday but I have to be at my desk at home for 8hrs because the portal will time out after 30mins without movement.

[@ChefofWar33]

You ever hear of a macro? Just google anti AFK kick. Youll find hundreds of different ways to solve your problem. You can program it do shit on repeat for well, forever. Boom, I just solved your problem. All I require is an at-a-boy.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@ChefofWar33 But what if the software tracks whether or not the mouse is being moved about?

[@ChefofWar33]

@@SurprisinglyDeep Not how it works.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@ChefofWar33 Oh okay. Not to disregard Bluntski's terrible situation but wouldn't it be hilarious if the system DID track how much you moved the mouse or how many times you clicked the keyboard?

[@ChefofWar33]

@@SurprisinglyDeep It would be too complicated to program, and would definitely be funny though.

[@themeanestkitten]

Why i hate my job: it makes me look at and talk to people

[@eleiraeel]

I just think high quality, multi-season long ensemble comedies are hard to find. People are lonely and getting to spend time laughing at, and with, a ton of characters (Friends, The Office, Parks and Rec, Brooklyn 99) make us feel less isolated. Also, there are so many seasons so there's a lot to watch and rewatch without getting bored.

[@trentrossdale638]

Very true. It's sad to admit this but when I moved with my parents to a new state when I was in high school I had no friends for like a year and experienced horrible loneliness and my favorite television show and the characters on the show became like my imaginary friends in a way. Even today I think I still do this to an extent because of that experience. "Loneliness is different from being 'alone': You can be lonely even surrounded by people. The feeling I'm talking about stems from the sense that we can never fully share the truth of who we are."

[@amp4105]

I strongly recommend you to watch Its always sunny in philly

[@kosatochca]

@@amp4105 and Archer (except his coma seasons)

[@whodatchink]

Scrubs

[@arilamba3964]

it's especially great for quarantine lmao

[@dominicjonez2247]

I worked a BS job for a few years. Marine Corps, 2008-2012 , it was a fun waste of time.

[@rib_rob_personal]

Dominic jonez How so? Feel free to rant, I’m curious.

[@duncansiror5033]

I'm also curious

[@dontrelate465]

Dominic jonez I can’t wait to come back from deployment.

[@angelgjr1999]

Curious too

[@Tre3141]

I have no military experience but it sounds like it would be really similar to all the stuff mentioned here, huge military but not in combat most of the time, leaders making up BS tasks to make subordinates busy. The concentration camp torture of doing meaningless things over and over again is basically what boot camp sounds like. Not saying that there are no benefits though.

[@jaqjynx]

My job isn’t BS however, management keep introducing BS policies that distract from legit work.

[@jakubwroblewski2712]

Working under a corporation really teaches you to just focus on your task and nothing more, or to pretend like you're busy just to survive and be considered valuable and be promoted. The "Work smart, not hard" principle is something I've learned over the years of work in an office and, honestly, I wouldn't make it if it hadn't been for that maxim. RN I'm focusing on switching my career to IT, where I feel I can use my traits, perceived as 'annoying' in corpo-environment (asking questions, learning, wanting to understand and grow). I want to just feel useful - your video reminded me of my goal, thank you for this. We insta-clicked with The Office - since the first episodes I noticed the weird connection between incompetent management in the series and enigmatic decisions made by my employer. On the other hand it helped me understand how corporations work in the upper management segment In a way it helped me coping with corporate life and finding balance in my life I love this video, even though I had to google translate like 100 words you used (EN is not my mother tongue) thank you for sharing! very insightful

[@creecher1118]

I'd like to see a video on the philosophy of, "all adults are idiots" as demonstrated in A Series of Unfortunate Events.

[@ves14]

As someone who's been a hotel receptionist for a month now, I relate to this. There is so much redundant and useless paperwork, it's absolutely absurd.

[@michelbraun4858]

Then do not do it but then some random ass is gonna come and sue you and you will wish you would have done that useless paperwork.

[@ves14]

@@michelbraun4858 I'm not gonna stop doing it. I know I could get fired or sued. I'm just saying it's redundant and having to do it is stupid.

[@CoqPwner]

@@michelbraun4858 The point went right over your head

[@jager0724]

People get paid for nothing and live every man's dream, while I'm over here, learning skills, working my ass off and not even being acknowledged

[@TESkyrimizer]

2 of my friends just graduated from STEM fields and havent found jobs yet. It sucks.

[@vutava8292]

It's almost like "work or die" is a bad system.

[@bradl.602]

Found the comrade!

[@ninjatortise8958]

And yet, it's the best system we got 💁‍♂️💁‍♂️💁‍♂️

[@bradl.602]

@@ninjatortise8958 I fail to see how that helps view it in a positive light. Should we ever settle? It feels more disrespectful to those who have achieved before us to simply stop where we are than it is to further improve upon what they gave us. What if the Founding Fathers just didn't become the Founding Fathers, what if they just accepted the monarchy? What if the French just accepted the bourgeois rule, what if oligarchy was just accepted? I'm not satisfied with "good enough", and I'll be damned if I allow my sins and the sins of those before me be paid by our inheritors. The line must stop here. Never be satisfied and never settle, instead strive for greater.

[@ninjatortise8958]

@@bradl.602 I mean the alternatives are using communism and socialism, the same systems that continuously failed time and time again all throughout the course of human history and have never worked

[@ninjatortise8958]

@@bradl.602 in any instance where they have been tried, using capitalism that does work, or create a new system

[@SolomonMars]

"Optimize suffering." The most terrifying thing I've ever heard. too real.

[@richpolysorbate4328]

The military branches and the advertising industry come to mind as a place of many useless jobs. Pushing a rock up hill along a Möbius strip.

[@omerom12]

well spoken

[@nimravus01]

Very true.

[@fuferito]

Jared's voiceover work is so unstoppable he even looks like he dubbed himself in this video.

[@moratuwamaleke6923]

Have I ever worked a BS job? Yes!! Im working one right now. That’s how I’m able to watch KZbin videos during work hours

[@fahadhussain66]

Hello, fellow-sufferer.

[@JensGartner]

“Some combination of real work, shit work and bullshit work." Isn't that every job?

[@uchuuseijin]

What's worse is that I feel like my job would be useful if it wasn't for the work culture. Like if I provided value to my customers I'd get fired.

[@kariscoyne1886]

oof, that's the big one. I feel you, my dude.

[@jermox]

That is how I feel sometimes as a teacher.

[@Bone_guy]

Makes me warm and fuzzy that the job I somehow get will be nonsense and being autistic it drive me more crazy.

[@urbanprecariat]

Yup!!! 💯 I see you, OP!

[@angelgjr1999]

Most of us would. I have been told to stretch 3 hours of work, into 8 hours.

[@erdemalegoz1816]

It’s hard to acknowledge it but this makes me think about my father’s situation. He’s way passed his retirement limit but he’s still working for his family in a job where if he wouldn’t even show up for a week nothing would change as for a good amount of time he sneaked in praying section of his department to sleep because he was sleep deprived for the reason of thinking and budgeting our future at most nights. He is in awareness of how useless his presence to his department but he was also torn by the financial security for his family. I don’t think I’m doing justice to my dad by sharing it here but this topic made me realize how close it is to me and how inevitable for most of the people in developed countries to be feel useless in daily bases.

[@breezetalks]

I think an interesting thing to dig deeper about is the service industry. While those jobs aren't necessarily BS, they do encourage that culture of suffering that Graeber commented on! As someone who works in retail, exploring why service jobs have this intense culture (at least in America) of Suffering + Forced Accommodation to Customers = Fulfilling Work could be something intriguing to study! Great video, as usual! Thanks guys! :)

[@robbuelens]

I was once fired for taking the motivational posters literally, and acting accordingly.

[@gingersnap9712]

I hate my job. I work from home taking customer service phone calls for six years. I feel stuck in impossible metrics, being screamed and cursed at, no matter how crazy and hateful customer is they are always right. But the money is so good and I can pet my dog while working. Im scared toleave to because once we do we can never come back.

[@BygoneT]

Try to find something satisfying you can do with that money. It doesn't matter what others say, money is close to everything. You have access to things and experiences others don't, use that.

[@HeyCharlieBrown]

Ginger Snap we need to re-define work, We need to introduce UBI to America Universal basic income #Yanggang Google Andrew Yang Joe Rogan or Andrew Yang H3

[@gingersnap9712]

Update: I have found a new job in manufacturing that pays the same. After 6 and a half years I finally took the plunge. No more angry customers woohoo. No more micromanaging woohoo

[@mjtubeme]

@@gingersnap9712 CONGRATULATIONS Fighting for happiness is a difficult task that never ends. But as long as you keep fighting, you keep winning.

[@kaizen5023]

Good for you Ginger Snap, congrats on the new job and having the courage to go for it!

[@savageantelope3306]

I love how the office takes something so amazingly boring, a BS office job, so funnny and entertaining

[@jamesdragonforce]

It’s the Seinfeld model in a mockumentary style.

[@TranslucentASMR]

I made a very decent living doing what I felt was a pointless job. Basically a high middle management sales position. The constant terror I felt was how seemingly replaceable I appeared to be. Sprinkled in with a bit of imposter syndrome. The funny thing is I was a record-breaking, award-winning successful employee. The infinite amount of mundane required tasks distracted me from my quality of output. I simply felt like there was a guillotine strapped around my neck at all times. And I wonder how imposter syndrome affects people in bullshit job positions, with a fear of losing what pays the bills.

[@OPbdh116]

The sad part is that I wish I had one of those"BS" jobs. Maybe then I could actually afford a decent life... Lol

[@psilocybemusashi]

when you need money it is the most important thing. since most of us have meaningless jobs it shows that we mostly feel the same way you do.

[@cheetahx13]

you will be exchanging a way of suffering for naother, just like we all did , we need teh money after all

[@jchris1934]

dont. i am miserable 90% of my day. I hate my job and cant sleep.

[@wuestion9473]

It doesn’t make sense that those working the hardest are paid the least and called lazy.

[@thijsjong]

My job existed because other people in the company messed up and the information system did not work like it was supposed to.

[@CoqPwner]

My job was fixing information systems, essentially making the people I was working with's jobs obsolete. I had mixed feelings about that. Most people were happy to lighten their workload, but I feel they weren't thinking very far ahead....

[@dps3902]

That's exactly what I've been trying to tell my friends and family when I say I am not fit enough to be in such kinds of jobs because obviously these are bullshit jobs. Whatever happened to jobs that actually brought change in the society even if that meant a plumber fixing up a Leak pipe. Our society has too many of accountants and salespersons and MBAs and less of thinkers and inventors and that's what exactly wrong with today's society. Damn that was something.

[@mfits]

Thanks for putting my misery into context, hearing this in your voice is cathartic and motivational. Time had come to change

[@ratboyzen]

Three things that employees need to feel valued: 1. Purpose (what they do has an impact) 2. Autonomy (they are self directed/ minimal micromanagement) 3. Mastery (room for improvement in their skills)

[@soulflaya2271]

JR. Thone can I love this comment youtube?

[@byst6226]

And can you mention any jobs that are like that?

[@soulflaya2271]

The Bystander literally any job can be like this, if managed correctly...

[@ratboyzen]

These steps aren't about finding the right job. They are about creating a positive work environment.

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

I work at Domino's because it lets me imagine I'm in Initial D...even though my car doesn't drift...yet.

[@Unkyo444]

Juan Manuel Penaloza underrated comment

[@angelgjr1999]

Heck yeah. Deja vu

[@TheTrueCaptainAwesome]

I want my pizza to taste THRILLING God damnit!

[@michaelhowell2809]

Very nice! Long live your downhill records

[@januaryafterhours1350]

Bro that's so fire

[@knepri]

I'm a medical resident and when I was in the internal medicine department, I finished everything by eleven in the morning as there really isn't much to do unless you are on call for the day. But we were never allowed to leave before 16 as that would reflect badly on other doctors who weren't as fast or, more often, had three one hour coffee breaks a day that they said were 'essential'. They didn't really care what I did for the next five hours as long as I didn't leave the hospital. That is when I started on my PhD, there is always data to be run through and analysis to be made, things to do that really matter. I have never been more miserable than in that department and thank god, I never have to go there again. Moral of the story - even in medical care there are bulls..t jobs but it very much comes down to management.

[@koshyjeffrey57]

Oh man, how meeetings have I been it. Sitting there thinking “why am I here”

[@forman208]

Lmao, the vast majority of meetings are fucking worthless

[@nea8098]

forman208 i just started a temp job. a week and a half in and i already feel this