The Oil Sands Explained ... in 10 minutes

[@PurplePeterbiltlife1958]

I always like how people have to post negative comments about the oil sands. But all of these people use oil and gas every day in their lives and no nothing about the history of mankind. oil and gas has changed the lives of basically everybody on earth for the good.People live longer and better lives because of oil and gas.

[@EvilSt0ner]

They have over 170,000 sites that they are obligated to fill and reseed. They are not fulfilling their obligations is the main issue.

[@sled9263]

You are absolutely correct. The hypocrisy of the anti oil sands activists is astounding.

[@normanquenneville3703]

They've taken us this far. Can't be so bad.

[@Aitch-102]

yeah, thanks for asbestos too.

[@brucebaum1458]

Asbestos is a product my mom’s boyfriend was involved with in shipping for a decade they use to play with it all the time like snowballs etc, he’s turning 93 this July 4th he did smoke for 50 yrs to maybe that saved him.

[@RioSul50]

I worked at Suncor and Syncrude in the mid 1980's. The companies were great to work for but Ft McFlrurry (I call it that since we had snow in August) was pretty isolated and not too many ladies to date for single guys. Lot's of hunting/fishing/ORV trails though. I worked at petrochemical plants and a refinery also over the years and retired in 2015 due to our polypropylene plant closing due to reduction in feed stock due to our supplier switching to nat gas as a feed stock vs crude oil. While at Suncor (Syncrude was down due to a large fire at the fluid coker) I was unloading bitumen from trucks as the mine at Syncrude was still operational and Suncor could process more than it could extract in the winter. The temperature got close to -60 F one night. I could only stay outside for about 10 minutes at a time. One operator bought a brand new GM auto with the cold weather package and even with the battery and block heaters plugged in it would not start. Three of the younger operators where I worked for the last 25 years went to the Koch oil refinery in Minnesota and one of them worked in the cokers. I think they refined synthetic crude from Alberta there. I had worked in the cokers at Suncor.

[@anthonymorris5084]

If we could rid ourselves of Trudeau, and unleash oil and gas, Canadians would be the wealthiest people in the world.

[@wakeupthebear]

That’s just crazy talk. We already are rich. No need too put your scammer jammers in office. There is already a group of scammers there already! Focus instead on being more Canadian and less like Americans.

[@tytyguy1able]

**Albertans

[@wakeupthebear]

@@anthonymorris5084 I’m already rich. Living here in Canada. 🇨🇦 Just look up. No bombs falling on our heads. You can’t get freedom without sacrifice. There is no more wealthy place to live. You should look around. Breath in the fresh air that has already been payed for in life’s. if you can’t make it here without whining try some other country. Trudeau is not the problem and has done his job well. It’s a long path to be a politician. Years of work. If you want change try to do his job. My golf instructor would often remind me not to blame the club.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@wakeupthebear Nowhere did I say we weren't rich and yet you go on this continuous tirade and self righteous lecture misrepresenting what I stated. Trudeau is a high school teacher with zero qualifications to run a nation. His policies have sent Canada into decline by almost every measurement you care to examine. Data proves this. Our GDP per capita has been in steady decline.

[@OldCanadianguy953]

Proud Canadian proud of the oil sands!

[@michaelcap9550]

US proud of the oil sands.

[@gregsmith7428]

I worked on the original Keystone pipeline a few years ago. A great experience! 😗

[@richboy3860]

Fantastic high-level video. Thanks for the hard work put in developing this 😊

[@joecur94]

Ive worked at majority of the facilities mentioned so this is a really cool video and is super informative.

[@terrywong7879]

Interesting and informative, thank you.

[@scottmarquardt3575]

Oil has to stay above $80 us a barrel and a ton of money has to be investigated for Canada to get rich of it. The new pipeline, next to the 1 that's been around 80 years to the Pacific ocean is a good idea. It really is 6 months of absolute freezing cold up there, moving some dirt around isn't going to wreak the planet.

[@krukpolny8505]

Open Oil Pipelines from Canada to USA. KZbin.

[@MrKim-kv2vv]

Having run this crude as a refinery operator, I can attest to the large water and sludge content. This stuff would cause havoc to our desalters. Interesting finding out how it gets extracted. Thank you 🙋🏼

[@dwaynekoblitz6032]

That was AWESOME!! So very well done. I actually understood everything. The use of emojis was spot on. Very well done!

[@briancowan528]

Excellent presentation. Informative and well-presented.

[@WorkingClassRob]

Yo dawg heard you liked bitumen

[@paulchristensen2854]

Canada exports 4 million barrels of oil a day to the US. The US exports 800K barrels a day to Canada. Nice gig that.....buy Canadian oil at at WCS ,then sell back to the original country at WTI prices plus pipeline fees.....sweet

[@stevecadman137]

They're different grades of oils. Try putting heavy engine oil in your fuel tank, good luck. Or diesel in your sump.

[@paulchristensen2854]

@@stevecadman137 ?....*!......is English your second language.If yes I suggest that enrolling yourself in an ESL course is in order. If not then you need to go back and finish grade school

[@stevecadman137]

@@paulchristensen2854 Really? Seriously? Snowflake much? What is your problem? I didn't say anything offensive, just gave a bit of information and you react like that? And please, correct my grammar and spelling. This will be interesting.

[@bobbyboucher5309]

@@stevecadman137 Dude went to university so he's better than everyone.

[@mrRunist]

@@bobbyboucher5309 What happened here?

[@phaldaz]

Really well done, thank you!

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

It’s a crying shame that all that planning, investment, efficiency, care of the planet, and genius is now threatened by the impossible “net zero” goal.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Can sand be used for construction after bitumen is removed?

[@danabarley5898]

To the best of my knowledge, once it’s processed, it is used to fill in the mine once it’s spent so it can be replanted. They’ve started to recover an area just before syncrude north of Fort mac for the purpose of replanting.

[@FullOfMalarky]

Thats my thought too. China, the gulf states and many others use a lot of concrete and need a lot of course sand. Probably better just to back fill though.

[@julie5553]

Doesn't anyone wonder who sponsors Oil Sands Magazine? This is not objective information.

[@shovelspade480]

Great video. I'd love to know what type of plants and vegetation grows on top of Oil Sands. What was/is the surrounding natural environment like? Species found there?

[@paulchristensen2854]

Nothing is found there now. Do a search here on you tube......just a big toxic scar getting near 2 million acres in size

[@shovelspade480]

@@paulchristensen2854 Thanks Paul

[@mikeingram-bh2lh]

Lots of trees bushes, blueberries

[@smokeshow1984]

You would never know that there is bitumen just by looking, in some waterbodys you will see a rainbow sheen, but other then that it just looks like normal forests an wetlands. A 100 years ago, you could fine at surface level, the natives used it to waterproof canoes an other things.

[@smokeshow1984]

@auntysocialist your talking old times buddy most of the ground level sites have been tapped, most of those "dead"/stunted forests are muskeg(too much water not enough time to dry nothing to with oil). Like I said you can see a little sheen in some waterways but bitumen here is closer to asphalt then oil. You can smell it though. I both live an work in the oil sands area Also we don't have elk or caribou here unless they got lost, they are usually in the more Easter side of Alberta.

[@johnnoname6814]

great job greening the dirtiest way to extract oil ever

[@patriot4usall]

@NSA, add johnnoname6814 to the FEMA detention list.

[@jaaklucas1329]

Agree. On the bright side, best way to make asphalt!

[@echoeversky]

And It should stay there. Tony Seba was right.

[@ericanderson2987]

EXCELLENT Presentation. I knew some of what is done in the Processing of these Oil Sands. I was amazed as to how much Oil is thought to be locked into these Sands.

[@carlrapsey6752]

Very interesting about the oil sands and the Alberta it is a big operation in Canada there will be a lot of professional jobs going and labouring jobs going it's a place that I like to go and have a look at fort McMurray a very interesting region

[@edgaralfonsoverabarrios5040]

Muy completo. Saludo desde Colombia. Gracias.

[@carston855]

We need to get some more ladies into these oils sand jobs. Pretty sure the male to female ratio in Alberta is way off.

[@raymondjrbigras102]

Oil sands should fuel Canadians from Coast to Coast.

[@fredsasse9973]

I've spent a lot of time in Ft. Mcmurray doing catalyst change outs on the Cat Crackers at, I think, Syncrude. I remember being there once in February and one day the temperature got up to 40 degrees below zero!

[@JasonPutschker-xw9uf]

Lol and? I build homes in that weather every winter 😂😂😂 whats your point!? Its Canada its normal

[@bobbyboucher5309]

I work in that shit all the time, last winter the thermostat stuck open in my truck while driving home. Truck ran fine but made zero heat, I drove as long as I could while scrapping frost off the inside of windshield but was too dangerous so I had to pull over and call a tow truck. I've never been so cold in my entire life and there was fuck all I could about it. Waited an hr in - 55, in a running truck. It was a really odd feeling knowing if the tow truck didn't come I'd freeze to death while my truck sat on a approach idling fine. The shit people do in this country for money just to hand most of it over to a spineless government is mind boggling.

[@bobbyboucher5309]

I hafta add that it took four phone calls to find someone that wasn't a selfish prick and willing to come get me. Two of them were willing to leave me there just because I chose to not have a credit card anymore. That's our country now. PATHETIC

[@scottrayhons2537]

It's called global warming at -40 below zero. Just ask crooked joe.

[@TheDAT9]

Were you in a hurry luv. It was all a bit rushed.

[@thumbliner]

Brilliant presentation

[@thebigtoe340]

the video is 12 min not 10 min

[@PacoOtis]

Thanks for sharing this very professional presentation and the very best of luck!

[@krishartzell2392]

What are your thoughts on EOR, carbon capture and the misnomer “net zero”..I ❤ oil sands

[@stevemacgruther4051]

The largest industrial and ecological disaster in the world

[@TroyQwert]

They read your comment and stopped...

[@neonjoe6180]

Gonna need this to power ur Tesla!😅😅

[@RustyWelch-x4y]

The energy return on investment (EROI) of the Canadian oil sands (or tarsands) is a measure of how many units of energy are gained for every unit of energy invested in extraction, processing, and transportation. This is expressed as a ratio of energy output (in BTUs) to energy input. For the **oil sands**: ### **BTU Output vs. Input**: - **Output**: For every **1 BTU** of energy extracted from the oil sands, approximately **0.2 to 0.3 BTUs** of energy are required as input, giving an EROI of around 4:1 to 5:1. This means that for every 4 to 5 BTUs of energy produced, 1 BTU is consumed in the process. - **Input**: This input includes the energy used in mining or in-situ extraction (like steam-assisted gravity drainage, or SAGD), upgrading bitumen into synthetic crude oil, and transporting the final product. ### **Comparison to Other Sources**: The EROI of oil sands is relatively low compared to conventional oil, which typically has an EROI of 10:1 or higher. This is because the process of extracting bitumen from oil sands is more energy-intensive than extracting conventional crude oil. ### **Factors Affecting EROI**: 1. **Extraction Method**: In-situ extraction (like SAGD) typically has a lower EROI (higher energy input) than surface mining. 2. **Energy Source**: The energy used in extraction often comes from natural gas, and its efficiency can impact the overall EROI. 3. **Upgrading Process**: Turning bitumen into synthetic crude oil requires additional energy, which lowers the overall EROI compared to raw bitumen. In summary, the EROI for oil sands extraction is about 4:1 to 5:1, meaning that for every BTU of energy input, 4 to 5 BTUs of output are gained. However, this is lower than conventional oil, reflecting the higher energy costs of extracting and processing bitumen.

[@Crawlerjamie]

Oil hell yeah brother

[@mrMacGoover]

I like oil, oil makes my van go voom.

[@이주영-h5j9n]

Mmmm, I thought Canada uses solar and wind energy...

[@scottmichael3745]

Really well done! I liked it Very much. Thank you!!

[@howardsimpson489]

At the rate climate change is hitting Canadian forests, it is unlikely there will still be an extractive industry for internal combustion. But, asphalt for roadways will still be in demand.

[@makeitpay8241]

there are not enough resources on the planet for all of us to drive an electric car.

[@user72974]

​@@makeitpay8241What makes you think that?

[@krisgraves2423]

One of the most negative, depressing environments to work in as well.

[@XRP-fb9xh]

Best job and co-workers I ever had. $200k-$250k per year, 7on, 7off schedule. Dream opportunity for me. To each their own.

[@ymwo97679]

@@XRP-fb9xhWhat positions did you work? That’s really great pay

[@christoph1039]

I’m no math, science, bill nye the science guy. But she said (1800 billion bbls in the ground, we only use 1 bbls (2/3 of canadas usage in a year) wouldn’t that mean we are good for another 1800 years?? Seems decent

[@indrekkpringi]

I can explain it in 10 words: It is the greatest ecological disaster in North America: PERIOD.

[@ecoideazventures6417]

Great explainer, but it's really strange to see no mention of the huge pollution caused by tar sands. No, i am not talking about the air emissions mentioned here. Really cute to hear about the "totally clean bitumen"!

[@BritaBongWater]

The costs of combating you "activists" could be used to develop cleaner technologies but no you people need to make yourself feel as if you made a difference in this world. There are actual real ways to make yourself useful but adding costs to inevitable projects is far from actually making a difference in this world.

[@BritaBongWater]

She said it's 15% of Canada's emissions. Work on those listening skills.

[@johnbourassa1550]

Let me sum up 17 years of the oil patch. The only positive they can actually state is $$$ its hell on the local communities as its a boom and bust cycle that only bankruptcy trusties will win in the end. It is far better to get Alberta and Sask to get into other industries far from carbon.

[@JensSchraeder]

You’re a putz.

[@puirYorick]

It's a dirty messy process but, as long as the producers are required to set aside the resources to fund the end of life cleanup of their sites, I don't have an issue with this specific production process. A lot of manufacturing is smelly and ugly. Just clean it up after. Don't let firms make millions in the market then declare bankruptcy in hard market times and walk away from poor producing sites and form a new numbered company to start over elsewhere. The global carbon issue is a whole other topic that needs a deeper dive.

[@venceremosallende422]

The EROI of tar sands is low. In the grand scheme of things mining and refining tar sands is a net-energy sink. Throwing energy onto this futile endeavor is dangerous for the species, as we will lack the energy to build ourselves out of this energetic bottleneck with the renewables. There simply is a thermodynamic limit to when oil production becomes pointless, even if there are many more reserves left, *there won’t be the energy to reach them*

[@scottmccambley764]

Bring on the SMR technology to get that carbon free steam flowing. That is what it is going to take, carbon capture is only part of a 2050 net zero solution

[@hg60justice]

forgot to mention. like the propaganda. i've been alberta a lot of years and it was always tarsand since it's inception. bitumen is tar, not oil. look it up.

[@michaelanderson3096]

Electrolysis of Salt Water to make hydrogen gas and oxygen gas using excess solar and wind power 😮.

[@overson15]

This person pronounces the short a vowel wrong.. the a sound in apple .. she pronounces the short o sound . Think frog out hog .. Californians and Canadians seems to do it a lot

[@mcspikesky]

Very informative

[@aleksanderkuncwicz7277]

If thiers so much oil here in Alberta how come thier isn't some kind of Chinese ghost city here in Alberta.

[@afsarahmed6365]

The refineries that used to be in Mississauga, were those complex or basic refineries?

[@waynearrington6727]

Would it be possible to use SMRs for process heat in all this and reduce CO2 emissions?

[@snazzyengineering]

They tried to do that years ago (Bruce Power was going to build a CANDU reactor nearby), but activists shut that down. Projects are being built that will capture nearly all the CO2 produced in the production process, but I agree that having nuclear there to provide process heat and power would be very useful. It's just a shame that those American oil funded activists keep blocking nuclear development here 🤷‍♀

[@shanehumphrey4827]

I worked kearl lake, cold lake, the lakes, shell. , shell Scottford, fox creek, in alberta ,

[@tosa305]

Go Canada! Canadian oil is at least democratic oil. I switched to EV with political motives. Most of our money buying gasoline in Finland goes to dictatorships. You never know how much of it goes to terroruzzia.

[@shovelspade480]

Quality, very informative, thank you.

[@SuperAtom16]

Doesnt anybody see the flaw here... Its like asking Apple to review its own product! Video is good, but many downsides were just quickly brushed away or simply left out!

[@HandyMan657]

Energy independant huh? Only the lowest in knowledge believe that nonsense.

[@AbdiPianoChannel]

I drive mining truck at Suncor oil sand site

[@jusout]

Can anyone explain to me how do you observe 200 million years?

[@NathanBrown-z7o]

Your all going to die alone with cat's if you keep ignoring me.

[@Eusantdac]

Tar Sands. (Edit: And there is no oil there like the video keeps talking about. This is not Saudi Arabia What the Tar Sands have is called crude bitumen.)

[@Crashed131963]

That is made into oil. Tar sands advantage is it never runs out. It will be here when the easy oil runs out.

[@bobbyboucher5309]

@@Crashed131963 Oil will always be there. Re entries all over Alberta prove it.

[@ignorthepain]

Government and taxes always make shit better 😂😂😂

[@videomakerdk]

Great video!

[@markbarber7839]

Very interesting thanks for the video!

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Don't spill any oil it may get into ground and Gov will shut u down 😂

[@txgho634]

CO2 is plant food. Solar energy in long term storage locations and medium.

[@jaaklucas1329]

Everything in science is a matter of amount. We are making too much. However to make an atmosphere on Mars we would pump as much as we could make for hundreds of years.

[@MervynPartin]

As has been said in previous comments- Excellent presentation. I knew nothing about the processes involved, but thanks to you, I have learned quite a bit. Many years ago, there was an attempt to develop the oil sands at Setchey in Norfolk, UK, not very far from my home but it was later abandoned. Having seen the processing equipment that would be needed, it would have been uneconomic. The huge reserves in Alberta make all the difference.

[@echoeversky]

Meanwhile coal is getting passed by solar next year. This oil should stay in the ground.

[@MervynPartin]

@@echoeversky Then what should we make plastics from? How do you make a computer without oil products. How do you lubricate the wheels of your electric car or insulate the battery and wiring? Wood?

[@mako88sb]

@@echoeversky ​The global energy consumption charts for 2022 consistently show energy produced by coal is still close to 10 times that produced by solar. Or are you talking about one specific country?

[@dreamhomes9050]

So, you are saying that Canada has no way to build complex refinery?

[@dancrane3807]

I had that thought too. But I think the issue is more, why build a complex refinery, when they already exist? It's cheaper to build a pipeline and just sell it to the existing refineries in the US. I've no doubt that Canada could build a complex refinery, but does it make economic sense?

[@unsungronin8093]

A refinery does not make any returns for 5 to 7 years, so people don't like to invest in them. The newest refinery NWR has been running for 6 years and has not turned a profit yet.

[@bobbyboucher5309]

It's called greed.

[@snazzyengineering]

We have a ton of complex refineries here in Edmonton (that have enough capacity to supply Alberta and a lot of Western Canada). It's stupid to refine it here, because it's way easier and cheaper to transport upgraded oil than hundreds of other derived products. That would make the problem caused by a lack of pipelines even worse. We need more pipelines to the coast.

[@thomasjefferson6]

There is a lot more recoverable oil in Alberta than 161 billion barrels. That said, looming like an odious spectre over Alberta's energy future (and its future overall well-being) is Canada's federal government, representing the views and interests of Ontario and Quebec. This federal government is historically hostile to Alberta, and the most that Alberta can hope from Canada's federal government is that it will be largely left alone.

[@jadams1722]

Sounds nasty

[@marshalllapenta7656]

America has more population as well as more money

[@6806goats1]

Bitumen almost sounds like Vegemite… ok not really, just sounds cool. This would make good road asphalt or so it seems to me. What do I know. Odd that I almost went to the sands for work but now work in Kuwait. Nope, not in oil but electronics. Time to sleep.

[@jonathanlloyd1824]

It's unfortunate that companies have been investing heavily in pipeline capacity and not in upgrading/refining capacity. Given that it takes approximately the same amount of time to bring either project online (apx 10 years) the economic benefits of increased refining capacity in country seem like a no brainier.

[@steveb1739]

Hopefully Turdeau doesn't mess it all up with his WEF / Green nonsense. Canada, wake up and vote this infantile clown OUT!

[@OldCanadianguy953]

11:25 The fed can go get stuffed. #FireTrudeau

[@Grasshopper.80]

Geez the smilie face emoji was classic

[@stalkingtigerscom]

This video did explain much on oil sands. I have to say though, with as many times as you used the word, " Clean" i have to put this into the " Propaganda" slot. Oil Sands has nothing, " Clean" about it.

[@anthonymorris5084]

No energy source is "clean" or "green".

[@stalkingtigerscom]

Hydrogen from water. use the hydrogen and it goes back to water. CLEAN WATER.@@anthonymorris5084

[@esbrasill]

@11:27, the carbon stored is only the carbon produced as result of production correct? So about 10% of the CO2 production from Well to Wheel is scheduled to be stored? The other 90% is the end user's responsibility?

[@johncarson1222]

Well produced video.

[@baamaramouad3494]

Wer is. Pipe line welder hir. Can mi help

[@michaeldmusiccanada]

Gas will be $4.00. Gal..when?😭

[@clawsewitz4316]

Bitumen is pretty bitchen man.

[@Bob.W.]

The new DRUbit product from Hardesty goes by my place daily on the CPKC, heading to Louisiana.

[@breezyx976]

The oil sands: Makes jobs, keeps gas prices low, maintains self-sufficiency in the event of embargoes Trudeau: Not if I have anything to say about it!

[@bryanbressem5026]

Keep on mining, quit whining 😂

[@phillipellison4758]

wow! good vid!

[@shanehumphrey4827]

I will say this first. Ok. The bio mass most responsible for oils creation and the biggest carbon creator is a new life form I am now very comfortable and confident they exist and permeate the softer mineral layers in their zones where they exist as well as much of our water is often saturated with a high concentration of this liquid life as it is delivered to the surface by volcanic fissures from the mantles ironwoodite zone or deeper or delivered to the surface by vents that reach the depths they thrive in. They require approximately 3,800 degrees to self destruct which is in the ironwoodite zone of the mantle which is a quite amazing process as the eggs are actually directed towards cooler temps on separation by self destructing and the body is sacrificed to be core fuel. Well now I just came to a logical conclusion that their makeup has possibility H3O4and other elements or minerals or even possibly a-few varying gas molecules and I am positive 2-3 or?molecules that we do not know exist so when they get to the zone of huIS MAINLY THIS LIFE FORM AND IS AMAZING HIGH NUCLEAR LIKE THERMAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT FUEL OUR PLANETS CORE !! Common sense tells us the core is fuelled by life as only life regenerates itself!! This is the only logical conclusion science has not applied the kiss approach To resolving and understanding a scientific phenomenon known as planetary cores that run and generate phenomenal heat for billions of year fundamentally perpetual motion!! It is not a super complex nuclear reaction with a complex unknown chain of events that creates heat of this magnitude when burning. I call it self destruction of these creatures burning in our core that is the main contributor to the creation of al that heat Down thereWhich I turn makes our water a higher viscosity which as research and observations for thousands of years and the law of physics dictates that heavier/thicker fluids flow at slower volume per minute in the same river systems that our life giving H2O flows at. So this is a major contributor to much of our flooding problem’s globally this heavy liquid mainly condenses to the state of coalescing to droplets that are significantly larger than regular H2O liquid in droplets in rainYes these creatures of phenomenal resilience, a means of duplicating itself at a rate that is simply abstract when they finally arrive in the layer of the mantle called ironwood zone that some scientists think their is a massive amount of water absorbed in the ironwoodite rock. Well I have news for you. It is liquid yes!! But this liquid is actually transparent and the thicker viscosity protective outer layer is their protection from heat. And their inner body including organs that we do not understand or can explain as well as brain,reproductive area, very hard pointed tail (after burnt) is much thinner viscosity and looks like water but is much heavier and I am believing this life form is made of about 4-7 different molecules including possibly 3-4 that we do not know exist . So the extra Hydrogen molecules in their very simple live bodies must become unstable in its bond to the life form and is rejected by a reaction we do not undertake know why. As we cannot recreate the cores makeup and conditions. To study it. We must apply related known scientific materials relationships and reactions That most likely would accur. So I’m thinkin this is where water is created. In this zone and and the destruction of a life form having water as a biproduct!!I also have observed a stainless steel like formation of their tail section of their body after being burnt!!So one other possible creation of this very unorthodox chain of events and the route /journey some travel in the planetary tectonic world of plate subduction that delivers this fuel

[@NathanBrown-z7o]

Invade, Canada again, oil.

[@tedyuan2066]

Lots of indigenous communities benefit from the oil and gas industry. The indigenous people who sue the energy companies only counts a minor portions of the entire indigenous populations

[@paulchristensen2854]

First nation cancer rates down stream from Ft Mac are much higher. The deformed fish found in the river down stream are another thing seldom mentioned.

[@tedyuan2066]

@@paulchristensen2854 I understand those issues. Nothing is free. It's a yes or no question. If you want economic developments, then environment will be disturbed someway from small or large. If you want better environment, then, it's another way around.

[@Tek0nn]

@@paulchristensen2854 Lets ignore the fact that the Athabasca River cuts directly through these tar sands and assume none of this leeches into the river naturally as it carves a path through it.

[@paulchristensen2854]

@@Tek0nn lol...your weak attempt at deflection/obfuscation only highlights the fact that down stream from Ft Mac has higher rate of cancer in the indigenous communities and the only deformed fish in the river. Nice try son

[@ywgmb35]

@@paulchristensen2854 if you saw how bad the people in those communities eat (lots of grease and junk food in their daily diets) and the high rates of cigarette smoking amongst the members, no wonder many are getting cancer. I am First Nations myself, so you can't claim I'm being racist, either. I see the exact same problem on my own community, and it's nowhere near any oilsands site.

[@ks438]

Awesome

[@arailway8809]

Hi Anna, My buddy, Choate, worked on the refinery cracking units near Port Arthur, Texas. Last I heard, they were slow to get a pipeline down there.

[@robertreznik9330]

We can hope president Biden will be out! And not out reading his teleprompter.

[@johnravensbergen3324]

Very good!

[@assassinlexx1993]

Drop a fresh bucket load on trud-eau so mr.dress up enjoy the tar sand.

[@PeterGonet]

Did you know, the Oil Sands supplied the allies (including Russia) all their fuel needs during WW2!

[@snazzyengineering]

No, because Ernest Manning was in power when the first plant was built in 1967.

[@grayrecluse7496]

Oil is a mineral.