The Ominous Black Paintings of Francisco Goya

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Blind Dweller

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@WhenYoureAlexa
@WhenYoureAlexa 2 жыл бұрын
The fact he changed many paintings so dramatically has always made me think the initial paintings were much more optimistic, but being isolated and bitter he began changing them to match his developing anger and resentment.
@johnnybravo1635
@johnnybravo1635 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight, that makes me look at all of his work with a different perspective🙏🏾
@kylaziahkern2866
@kylaziahkern2866 2 жыл бұрын
It crazy we have technology now to be able to see things like that
@sunmi2539
@sunmi2539 2 жыл бұрын
Wow good take
@theosimpson7139
@theosimpson7139 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he just realized with greater profundity how decrepit the nature of man is and decided to eradicate the naïve optimism from his work.
@chronicarica2812
@chronicarica2812 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was haunted by the demon from "los viejos" and everything changed
@michaelmignone5869
@michaelmignone5869 2 жыл бұрын
What sticks out to me about this is that they were painted all over his house. Imagine being isolated and only having the characters in these paintings looking at you all day everyday, especially once the sun goes down. Seems like the paintings fed his despair as much as he left on them.
@nickthelick
@nickthelick 2 жыл бұрын
"...Once the sun goes down..." Brrrrr... Seeing these things by flickering candlelight?! 🤔😬😐 What a scary, weird, grim prison to put yourself into at night!!! 😬 😊
@chewygal69
@chewygal69 Жыл бұрын
Yes I know right!
@StainsStainsStains
@StainsStainsStains Жыл бұрын
@@nickthelick Everyone is in their own self imposed prisons whether they know it or not
@Александр-ц5с8у
@Александр-ц5с8у Жыл бұрын
@@StainsStainsStains but not if you're JOKER who broke the system and ate society (Humour)
@monsieurlaguillotine3481
@monsieurlaguillotine3481 Жыл бұрын
@@nickthelick It's the ultimate symbol, in my mind. I don't know anything about him, but I can imagine being a fly on the wall and seeing this lonely old man who's lost his mind, his hearing, his hope...and surrounded by monsters familiar, flickering in increasingly dying candlelight, night after night.
@audereestfacere2858
@audereestfacere2858 2 жыл бұрын
the most terrifying thing about these paintings is that the names given to each one of them are just what the people who first found them at Goya's house thought they meant. Goya never wrote any names or notes on them so "Cronos devouring his children" could perfectly represent something else. Also this particular painting was on his dining room's wall so...
@kateendrews46
@kateendrews46 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh it could be so much darker I just realized that
@hallucinato2307
@hallucinato2307 Жыл бұрын
How is it terrifying that someone other than Goya named this paintings wtf are you on
@kateendrews46
@kateendrews46 Жыл бұрын
@@hallucinato2307 that’s not what we were saying what are YOU on?😭 we’re saying that there’s a possibility that the picture means something different than what the name given by other people implies. Bozo
@suzuzusu
@suzuzusu Жыл бұрын
@@kateendrews46 ur a bozo lil bro
@forgetfulstranger
@forgetfulstranger Жыл бұрын
Idk the Saturn, Fates, and He-goat painting clearly shows those figures, the others are more vague
@Takumi_Did_Nothing_Wrong
@Takumi_Did_Nothing_Wrong 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he lost his hearing means the only things he could "hear" were those dark thoughts plaguing his mind. Maybe that is what his painting of the creature yelling into the old man's ear is alluding to. I can see how that could be maddening to him.
@annawars6054
@annawars6054 3 жыл бұрын
It also seems like you can't talk after å while. Your throat just starts hurting ånd closing around its own, so you end up nøt being able to hear noises nor produce them by yourself.
@WerewolfKweef
@WerewolfKweef 3 жыл бұрын
I interpreted this exactly the same way
@Ladymadonna007
@Ladymadonna007 3 жыл бұрын
He may have been showing us the pedos of the day in the Elite that bought his paintings.
@Ladymadonna007
@Ladymadonna007 3 жыл бұрын
@Faceless Ai because the pedos are being exposed. Why do you think the FBI raised Project Verona’s office to get Bides daughters diary? What do u think was in it?
@Ladymadonna007
@Ladymadonna007 3 жыл бұрын
@Faceless Ai my inner voice is best observed in Golden silence and protects me from demons and wandering spirits The still small light of redemption lies within all of us.
@daveshif2514
@daveshif2514 3 жыл бұрын
Love how many of these paintings are so dark but dont use shock value, they use psychological deep fear. The fear of the unknown, of mortality, insanity, loneliness, and violence. He was committing suicide in his mind, but his body could do nothing but paint what he saw. Perhaps as a religious man, he embraced these truths instead of fleeing from them into the arms of self harm or suicide. He had to get the emotions out of himself and out into the world. The fact he painted these on the walls of his home is very telling. The home is often though of as an extension of the self. These paintings were private, almost like visual journals. The permanent nature of painting in his walls tells me that he knew he wasn’t going to have a lot of time. So these would be forever put in place, unable to be separated from the artist, even after his death. He was saying “look at me! But i am afraid”
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 3 жыл бұрын
That's a bit of a misunderstanding of depression, I think. "Perhaps as a religious man, he embraced these truths instead of fleeing..." Certainly suicidal thoughts, sometimes clinically named "suicidal ideation" can haunt people who are very committed to not following through because of religious or even philosophical convictions. But, from personal experience, to the sufferer, it can also feel like cowardice. Combined with feelings of incompetence and inadequacy that makes one feel like they will be unable to follow through, or are unworthy of final rest.(which is ironically rather realistic fear, as failures statistically overwhelm actual fatalities) Your phrase "embraced these truths" makes it seem that some sufferers are morally superior to others. Of course it is your personal right to view self-preservation as "truths" but... he had no foreknowledge that the paintings would be preserved, not destroyed, and painting his walls seems to me an act of isolation, not "look at me". Who was he saying "look at me" to? He did die shortly thereafter, he got no praise, appreciation or compensation for this work. We are all mortal and that's another truth to embrace.
@Discrimination_is_not_a_right
@Discrimination_is_not_a_right 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't use shock value"? I find at least two of them deeply shocking and upsetting, namely the one of the man getting his head cleaved from his neck 😨 and the one of Saturn 😱
@daniburke9452
@daniburke9452 3 жыл бұрын
That's because he at lenient stages of syphilis. It makes you loose your mind and resembles mental illness.
@bitchface235
@bitchface235 3 жыл бұрын
i would say not only is saturn devouring his own son an example of shock value but also of deep psychological fear. a glance and it is a nude man eating a naked baby. look deeper and it is a man deep in the throws of full dark madness and depravity. its like albert fish in a painting
@cleoharper1842
@cleoharper1842 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love you for this. This is what I could not articulate myself. I love it when someone much smarter than me can put words to the less concrete thoughts/feelings I cannot express. You have an artist's soul.
@Krieklow
@Krieklow 2 жыл бұрын
I think a big part of what makes Goya's Saturn so unsettling for me is the utter inelegance in the way the mans body has been devoured. While Rubens' Saturn is obviously still horrific it still maintains an artful elegance to it, while the figure in Goya's has just been crudely devoured as it hangs limp, like a piece of meat. It's like coming upon the body of someone who has been partially eaten by a wild animal, slumped over in a ditch.
@whenthemorningstarssangtogxrxs
@whenthemorningstarssangtogxrxs 9 ай бұрын
Well said my thoughts exactly. Goyas Saturn is how i picture a Nephilim to look.
@100kylexy
@100kylexy 8 ай бұрын
Goyas painting shows Saturn in the middle of eating the body. It was like he was depicting the beast Saturn had already rapidly become since the start of devouring of his child. While Ruben showed the first bite the decision and the child’s horror, Goyas shows that horror transferred in the man and the truth behind his actions. At least that’s what I get from it.
@lunarrover4923
@lunarrover4923 6 ай бұрын
@@100kylexylove this description, makes it even more chilling. Also explains the look on his face even better, now there’s no going back 😟
@ShellMaky
@ShellMaky 6 ай бұрын
I find the original of Saturn much more disturbing. In Goya's there is an instant image of insanity. The original seems creepily matter of fact. Goya's version is my favourite ever painting. I have it in my bedroom😅😅😅
@noble137
@noble137 5 ай бұрын
@@100kylexythis! one is the pure depravity and one is the consideration
@nickroberts1596
@nickroberts1596 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people focus on the disturbing nature of "Saturn Devouring His Son," but something about "Man Mocked by Two Women" has always been extremely distressing to me. I think it's the total lack of context combined with the emotions suggested by the faces--we have little to no idea what's actually going on, but whatever it is, it is not pleasant or happy. It's an obscure-yet-all-too-clear vision of a really twisted side of human nature, one that takes pleasure in mocking or exploiting others. If, indeed, the man is mentally disabled, that adds an even darker context, as "care" for people with severe developmental issues at the time consisted of almost endless abuse and neglect, and there was virtually no understanding of mental illness.
@ashbone568
@ashbone568 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. That one is particularly unsettling.
@tinagoli2022
@tinagoli2022 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, that painting makes me unsettled
@trentoni3964
@trentoni3964 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the fact that we don't know exactly what it's depicting makes it even more eerie to me. There's something so sinister about it, but it's an evil that's not completely obvious to us, right under the surface
@willd1790
@willd1790 3 жыл бұрын
I'd never seen it before. That middle woman's face is going to follow me into my nightmares.
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it to be a depiction meant to focus more on men whom lust as the man depicted is shown with his hand in his pants and that face while the women are prostitutes. As such, the man so obsessed with the flesh that it has consumed his mind (another common trend in all of these), leaving a fool to be mocked by two prostitutes.
@shroomyk
@shroomyk 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen many of these "Black Paintings" out of context. Never knew they were painted on his wallpaper. That is pretty cool that someone meticulously removed them from the wall so the whole world can see them for generations. Very interesting video as always. I am excited to see what else you bring to us.
@michaelcameron2432
@michaelcameron2432 3 жыл бұрын
*uuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuhu
@claws811
@claws811 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcameron2432 yes
@dj_isnt_scared
@dj_isnt_scared 3 жыл бұрын
its true, its cool that we can see them, but i always felt bad when we discussed this in art history because this was never meant to be seen :/ his family or the woman who was taking care of him didnt do anything to protect them, what he depicted was deeply intimate and very very sad
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, Goya has been dead for so long, he won't care if people see his private paintings. Generally, when you're a great artist, you kind of have to accept the fact that people will look at your private stuff after you're dead. Letters, diaries, etc. Some of the greatest art is only known because people ignored the wishes of the artist. Kafka for example wanted his works to be burned after he died. Thankfully his best friend decided that his writings were too important to throw them away.
@franciscusnuyts627
@franciscusnuyts627 3 жыл бұрын
OBVIOUS THIS MAN DOES NOT LIKE VISETORS cup of tea cup of tea . Dou you want to stay for dinner 😡😡😡😡😡🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 GOOD CHOICE OF WALLPAPER 🤩🤩
@stellaltumi
@stellaltumi 2 жыл бұрын
his art must have been so theraputic for him, I can only imagine the things he struggled with mentally. I hope he is at peace now
@nsf_oreo7685
@nsf_oreo7685 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he’s dead now
@glass.hammer
@glass.hammer 2 жыл бұрын
In my limited experience, when I’d write or play music for a reprieve from my serious breakdown episodes, they were merely and attempt and not a success. I feel like that might have been the case for Goya because everything became frantic, then subdued, like attempting to block noise, and then cycle back to frantic.
@velv3ts
@velv3ts 2 жыл бұрын
By the way he painted them around his house I think it may have been an attempt at something therapeutic, that just made the maddening of everything around him so much worse. idk tho
@Ryan-kb8ui
@Ryan-kb8ui Жыл бұрын
Yea seriously that kind of mental torment is a terrifying thought
@barbedwirekitty
@barbedwirekitty 3 жыл бұрын
*Goya, painting his beloved elderly and adventurous mother on some exploits* Art critics: 'this terrifying old and twisted hag' Goya: :(
@michellete8545
@michellete8545 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@nikemaraje5
@nikemaraje5 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@pavelkish7142
@pavelkish7142 2 жыл бұрын
I love how people like you can understand the depths, bottom of something. Most people would give a quick glance and move on, but you.. you see through the painting.. you know the bottom of its meaning. I'm a painter too and you making me inspired and fully interested. GOD bless you.
@lennarthagen3638
@lennarthagen3638 Жыл бұрын
@@pavelkish7142 so do i you can praise me also
@_PinkiePie.
@_PinkiePie. Жыл бұрын
@@lennarthagen3638 lol this made me laugh
@GiantArtProductions
@GiantArtProductions 3 жыл бұрын
You have to also realize how revolutionary they were in terms of the technique of painting. Goya’s very loose and expressive brush work (probably because he never intended them to be shown) paved the way for a century of art movements after him. Hence why they regard him as the first “modern” painter. Also you can see Goya using his knowledge of print making here, very stark contrasts of tones and simple, suggestive facial features, but in painting.
@nm9688
@nm9688 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I honestly thought these paintings were recent
@jaydubya3698
@jaydubya3698 3 жыл бұрын
Yup...really the first expressionist work.
@ArakeenArchivist
@ArakeenArchivist 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of you as I watched this. Your work reminds me immensely of his.
@GiantArtProductions
@GiantArtProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArakeenArchivist he’s a yuuuuuuuge inspiration on me ;)
@Daniel-hr6fp
@Daniel-hr6fp 3 жыл бұрын
Gio, you’re a legend! Pleasantly surprised to find you here.
@bloodraineart
@bloodraineart Жыл бұрын
The missing head and arm of the figure being eaten in Saturn Devouring his Son was always really interesting to me. It makes me wonder if Goya painted Saturn as madness itself, and the figure being eaten represented Goya/Goyas life. Madness had already taken his mind (head) and his work (arm) and it was going to devour the rest of his life too.
@galacticlava1475
@galacticlava1475 7 ай бұрын
I think Goya represents himself as Saturn. The most disturbing part in the painting for me is Saturns eyes, he doesn’t want to do this. In the tale, Saturn ate 5 of his children, with only one surviving to overthrow him. Out of Goya’s 7 children, 6 died before adulthood. Goya hated the idea of going crazy, but I think this painting is showing how he believes he already is.
@kevinmcdowell9074
@kevinmcdowell9074 5 ай бұрын
While that is an interesting analysis, what with the arm and head being devoured, I think you read too much into it. There was a comment up above that I think explains it quite well; the way the body hangs limply from the mouth of "Saturn" is just very effective and realistic in its portrayal of brutality and cannibalism. Its meant to shock and disgust the viewer and it does quite a good job of it. You did have an interesting idea, and I wonder if it isnt a matter of how much thought Goya put into works such as these, vs, how much his feelings just came out on the canvas, almost as a violent birth more than a creative pursuit. As if he had no choice but to do this, it being the only hope he had to exorcise his fears and thoughts. At least thats how Ive felt about the art I make and Ive heard others describe it that way as well. As Almost a compulsion or hunger that can only be satisfied through creation...
@Marshmallow_Trees
@Marshmallow_Trees 3 жыл бұрын
“Saturn Devouring his Son” has always been particularly upsetting as, from my personal POV, Saturn’s eyes look mad, but mad with horror and despair, as if he’s compelled to eat his son, against his will, whether it’s from outside forces, or by the dissonance of his own mind. I really appreciate your channel! Thank you for sharing these works of art and their various interpretations. It’s important for our minds to consider such things.
@angusdurham561
@angusdurham561 3 жыл бұрын
Really reminds me of Ilya Repin's painting "Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan." Very different style but similar kind of despair in Ivan the Terrible's expression.
@xxpatrick204xx
@xxpatrick204xx 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Hillary Clinton. Kuru is a terrible disease.
@Cuntypostaldude
@Cuntypostaldude 3 жыл бұрын
Saturn devouring his son is like the only painting that unsettles me
@chompachangas
@chompachangas 3 жыл бұрын
Metal AF
@chompachangas
@chompachangas 3 жыл бұрын
@Rapoenzel Cosi \m/
@Evelyn-fw4mp
@Evelyn-fw4mp 2 жыл бұрын
i saw saturn devouring his son in real life on a trip abroad, and i legitimately didn’t want to be in the same room as it for a long time. it’s a beautifully done piece of artwork, and i respect the time put into it so much, but something about it just made me feel really sickened and disturbed- not even particularly the subject (even though that’s obviously dark), but just the energy of the piece itself. the frantic brushstrokes and the eyes specifically really got to me. the emotion he was able to evoke is amazing.
@novae7898
@novae7898 2 жыл бұрын
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfertable.
@EmeraldPhoenix-sp8hm
@EmeraldPhoenix-sp8hm 2 жыл бұрын
That's wild. Even seeing a picture of it, you can definitely sense something off - it's hard to describe.
@superduck1235
@superduck1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@novae7898 well said
@la-li-lu-le-lo9444
@la-li-lu-le-lo9444 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldPhoenix-sp8hm it's the eyes. And as an artist...he was seeing those eyes himself I would wager, if so, hopefully the painting exorcised them
@peaness7275
@peaness7275 2 жыл бұрын
@@la-li-lu-le-lo9444 The eyes appear crazed, hysterical but you can also see great fear and sorrow in them aswell. Indeed they are the eyes of tragedy.
@robgau2501
@robgau2501 Жыл бұрын
I have to say these are excellent. The dog one is one of the saddest, loneliest paintings I've ever seen. Especially relative to its so simple and minimal, like you said.
@gubia
@gubia Жыл бұрын
When you see it in real life it's so sad and tender. It was my fav.
@ccway7
@ccway7 Жыл бұрын
As mentioned in comments, i too saw a figure in the darker shade to the right of the dog. I also felt a connection instantly with this. Just suffered my worst nightmare
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 Ай бұрын
@@ccway7yea I saw that immediately too, I wonder if it was something painted over that still shows thru or if Goya painted it with meaning… It certainly looks like a human form, the dog looking at its “face”… When zoomed in on the dogs head it looked like the lower part of the human form was intentionally painted there
@lazyacademic
@lazyacademic 3 жыл бұрын
I adore the participatory nature of Saturn Devouring His Son. His eyes imply that we, the audience, are the ones who are catching him in the act. Like the painting wouldn’t exist if we weren’t there to witness the moral crime being committed. Great stuff.
@roxannecheng4371
@roxannecheng4371 3 жыл бұрын
That is such an interesting insight.
@ill8485
@ill8485 3 жыл бұрын
What makes it even scarier in that perspective is the thought that Saturn, in his desperation, will go for you next in order to cover it up
@ezzymedina8794
@ezzymedina8794 3 жыл бұрын
Participation indeed. Chronos is the personification of Time itself. Time consumes Humans and Gods alike. The way Chronos tightly grips his son and consumes piece by piece is symbolic of all of us caught in the grip of time. The body in this scenario is an hourglass. The eyes symbolize an unnerving persistence that cannot be reasoned with. An untempered compulsion that is fixated on us to the point of madness. We are all next. There is no escape. What makes it most terrifying is that we are presently aware. We've witnessed it, we've become traumatized by this immoral act.The corpse is missing a head, it is no longer suffering. We know we are next. Our suffering is omni-present because of this awareness.
@lazyacademic
@lazyacademic 3 жыл бұрын
@@roxannecheng4371 thank you!
@noahc.7848
@noahc.7848 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful perspective
@cg_923
@cg_923 2 жыл бұрын
as someone with significant hearing loss, the two old men painting might be depicting the personification of tinnitus as a demon, in my experience tinnitus can very easily contribute to anxiety and depression, with feelings of hopelessness and fear. emotions that someone who is religious could view as a demon influencing and tormenting them.
@FranciscoGarcia-cx9kw
@FranciscoGarcia-cx9kw 2 жыл бұрын
I was just reading your comment when the painting came up. With tinnitus in mind the 'demon' really gave off a bat like appearance. Like the personification of ringing or screeching in the ear of the old man.
@chaddicusmaximusdestroyero8259
@chaddicusmaximusdestroyero8259 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to be religious to know that demons are real, it's the illusion of our modern world that has tricked men like yourself into thinking it fables and superstition. Make no mistake our choices in life echo and follow us through eternity
@aliceduanra7539
@aliceduanra7539 Жыл бұрын
that makes a lot of sense, I can't imagine how frustrating constant feedback in your ear would cause
@edgarbeat2851
@edgarbeat2851 10 ай бұрын
​@aliceduanra7539 It is indeed depressing. Silence is torment I'm 39 I have it in one ear after an exploding can I was not told was in garden rubbish.
@austins.2495
@austins.2495 2 жыл бұрын
Goya’s work touches me in a certain way that makes me want to create art myself. It’s beautiful
@vladaimpaler
@vladaimpaler 3 жыл бұрын
The “Two Women Mocking a Man” painting is so creepy, especially when compared to what his paintings looked like before he isolated himself.
@Dale_Blackburn
@Dale_Blackburn 3 жыл бұрын
Who is that in your profile picture?
@taxevasion8265
@taxevasion8265 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dale_Blackburn a emo girl
@jenniferp6743
@jenniferp6743 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dale_Blackburn why does it matter?
@petraesposito4025
@petraesposito4025 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dale_Blackburn gaye advert of british punk band the adverts
@leviriggs2422
@leviriggs2422 7 ай бұрын
First cockold
@brokendorsalfin6252
@brokendorsalfin6252 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t the seductress represent death? If she’s wearing black, leaning over a grave, and Goya was becoming older and more insane, the idea could be that death was calling to him trying to seduce him
@the2ndcoming135
@the2ndcoming135 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I told them to spread out. They don’t wanna take the clean shot at me. It’s the low blows I noticed they keep going for😬
@alexandertheartist7569
@alexandertheartist7569 2 жыл бұрын
If she was death and trying to seduce Goya, then her expression would be different.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын
@@the2ndcoming135 Huh?
@the2ndcoming135
@the2ndcoming135 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 Mjolnir. That’s what🤫
@kc_cobra
@kc_cobra 2 жыл бұрын
It such an odd title for that painting. There's nothing seductive in her appearance or mannerisms. She looks distant, almost bored. If it is the maid waiting by a graveside perhaps Goya believed she was only there to wait out the years until she could claim his wealth. That may explain why he left her nothing.
@jiwilikers
@jiwilikers 2 жыл бұрын
‘man mocked by two women’ is disturbing but truly intricate. The first thing i get from it, when looking at it from the sexuality aspect, is shame towards one’s sexuality. His face can be depicted with ecstasy and lust while the grinning faces and darkness of the rest of the painting completely oppose it. It captures shame and the ‘dirty’ feeling associated with lust and sexuality extremely well. It can really make you think.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: “it must be a depiction of the feeling of death and hatred of the government cloaked in the black background” Francisco Goya: “I need to get rid of all this damn black paint”
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@cindithomas7440 But the black paintings were originally happy or mundane. Francisco simply became disenfranchised with humanity overtime and modified all of them to show why he became so. The people depicted are very old, disgusted and grotesque, in fear and desperation, and mad
@JamietheEmperor
@JamietheEmperor 3 жыл бұрын
huh
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@cindithomas7440 X-rays reveal the original works beneath the revisions. They’re mentioned briefly in the video
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@cindithomas7440 Most sound like they were completely different, with the prostitutes and stupid man originally having been two women reading a book on a man’s lap. They sound like something you’d expect from his earlier works, which makes sense: he filled his house with happy paintings at first because he was just a happy aristocratic artist. His worsening conditions, political turmoil, and social isolation would simply warp his view of the world overtime and likely made him resent his happy houseworks, so he corrupted them. I too would like to see what he originally had painted, but I can’t find them on Google, meaning they’re probably not very easy to find. Our best bet is to compare to his earlier pieces and infer that they would have been reminiscent
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@cindithomas7440 I’m afraid I’m not very well versed in Radiology, but I have seen a few artists’ hidden paintings from X-rays before. They’re usually pretty clear with regenerative computer technology that we use today. I recall a hidden DiVinci painting of a royal/nobleman and it was clear and in color (may or may not have been recolorized), so I’d assume it would be of similar clarity here, even though his brush strokes are very chaotic and blurry
@philipkilmartin2312
@philipkilmartin2312 3 жыл бұрын
"The Dog" painting is so simplistic, mysterious and disturbing. To me it depicts isolation and abandonment so well.
@blondie9422
@blondie9422 3 жыл бұрын
It really upset me
@cylasxiii7877
@cylasxiii7877 2 жыл бұрын
Hey um i was trying to recreate one of his paintings today the one of saturn eating his son at school, after the day was over nigh arrived and i had a dream. This dream was different from others it feel realistic somehow and the things is that is was lots of shorts dreams. The last of thoes dreams there was a black dog that touched me with his tongue then i woke up at 2:00 am. I have a feeling that the paintings have more than just ink.
@Purple-iz1bd
@Purple-iz1bd 2 жыл бұрын
@@cylasxiii7877 the meaning behind it could relate to you more than you think, usually dreams let us know what our subconscious mind is thinking
@davasaurthereal4678
@davasaurthereal4678 2 жыл бұрын
There’s almost an outline of a person looking at the dog in the painting.
@lismaryperez6885
@lismaryperez6885 2 ай бұрын
The idea of a dog being isolated and losing hope makes me sad
@maxfield9873
@maxfield9873 2 жыл бұрын
"Fighting with Cudgels" hit me right away with our own situation today in my country. We are, all of us, mired in a myriad of issues, not of our own making, yet relevant in their insistence. These issues divide and control us through our own vitriol and blind rage. We believe we fight for our beautiful country but destroy one another in the process, while the true perpetrators go free, unscathed. Thank you for your production. I find myself in a home far away from my birthplace. The walls are old plaster and lathe work, covered in diminishing wallpaper. A few months ago, I began painting bamboo around a window, over the wallpaper, just as a way to cheer up my situation. To know that some of Goya's most profound work was done this way is incredible!
@tamar7065
@tamar7065 3 жыл бұрын
I got to see the black paintings in person once. There really is something deeply sobering about them. Not even in a horror-movie way, just in the way they spoke to a very mundane and human sense of depression and isolation. _Saturn Devouring His Son_ is the one everyone focuses on because of the shock value, but looking at them all in real meatspace, I found _El Perro_ to be the most devastating. It's so simple but so... cold.
@knifewife4390
@knifewife4390 2 жыл бұрын
The intentional lack of background/the shades of swirling brown in almost all of them is so unbelievably unnerving. It’s so empty and vast and you can truly feel his frustration and madness. He really was a sad genius.
@elizatoponce9375
@elizatoponce9375 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the paintings in there, that was the one I had a hard time looking at. The others I was fascinated by but that painting made me so upset in a way I can’t explain, I could only look at it for a few seconds before looking away
@redlord5892
@redlord5892 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao its just a dogs head
@rottenmilk3954
@rottenmilk3954 3 жыл бұрын
There’s an interesting feature in ‘The dog’ painting that, if you’ve seen under a certain light, you can notice. It’s not very clear on most pictures, though you can see it if you look for it. The original painting had the dog not looking at the sky, but at a man. The man is leaning looking at the dog, wearing some kind of robes, similar to some of the monks who lived nearby. If you look at the picture from afar, you can still see the shape of that man. It was not erased, but Goya later painted over it and covered with the sky paint, erasing that man. I don’t know why no one ever talks about these underpaintings (sure, some are revealed in xrays, but most you can even see clearly since the oil painting was transparent); they’re pretty clear. Take a walk into Museo del Prado in Madrid and you’ll find out many people who were painted over, horses with limbs painted over and over, and, more rare but still intriguing, people erased from family portraits.
@thairenea
@thairenea 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I’m saying….how are they missing this…I clearly saw the dark figure in the back…head outlined and everything…changes my perspective entirely
@czuthblanka2923
@czuthblanka2923 3 жыл бұрын
It's even more mortifying for me, the man's outline is clearly there, it feels as if he buried the dog himself or laughs at it's misfortune
@bitchface235
@bitchface235 3 жыл бұрын
maybe because everyone but you seems to know that he painted over the originals and turned them into the "black paintings" as we know them today so that guy you see is probably from the original painting and just got painted over because whatever reason goya decided to do that.
@thairenea
@thairenea 3 жыл бұрын
@@bitchface235 but the other shit he paint over they pay attention to that and even include it into the detail of explaining the painting….that dog painting ominous figure definitely shouldn’t just be overlooked because he covered it up…just like the rest of them
@doubleog6149
@doubleog6149 3 жыл бұрын
I thought i seen a man bent over
@Raitor33
@Raitor33 Жыл бұрын
A little trivia: one of Goya’s last works was a humorous caricature of himself as a decrepit old man with the label “aún aprendo”, which basically means “I still learn”. After all the man had a brilliant sense of humor. Pd: For anyone interested in Goya’s body of work, I encourage you to look for his series of engravings, specially “The Disasters of War” and “Los caprichos”.
@IamtheSun100
@IamtheSun100 3 жыл бұрын
If I had a time machine I’d wanna be one of the first people viewing these paintings on the walls of de Goya’s home, must’ve been downright unsettling
@tantanmustdie
@tantanmustdie 3 жыл бұрын
Many of them were painted over though
@gabreshaa8234
@gabreshaa8234 3 жыл бұрын
I'd go back to prevent the Holocaust and other tragedies of history but you do you I guess...
@AdiMare
@AdiMare 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabreshaa8234 That's a very weird context to take an unecessary moral high ground..
@livefastdiequick
@livefastdiequick 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabreshaa8234 why would you go to the Holocaust? That’s like the worst possible thing you can do
@gabreshaa8234
@gabreshaa8234 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdiMare It's not even a high ground. Blatant antisemitism like this just pisses me off and frankly I'm sick of statements like these. At best he's just stupid and ignorant, at worst he's evil and hateful.
@orenalbertmeisel3127
@orenalbertmeisel3127 3 жыл бұрын
These paintings are such an intriguing subject. Not only are they terrifying, but they are also surrounded by mystique due to being untitled and how we can’t know for sure if the artist is de Goya or his son. I believe it’s de Goya though
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
OH NOOOOOOOO!!! I have two girlfriends, but very few people on YT are happy for my relationship success. They disl*ke all of the videos I make with my 2 girlfriends. Please be kind, dear oten
@Sapphire1982
@Sapphire1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku wtf
@keystep8669
@keystep8669 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sapphire1982 don't humor the tool. He just makes videos to piss people off and get attention
@divad7137
@divad7137 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku what the actual fuck
@chrisbuckley1785
@chrisbuckley1785 3 жыл бұрын
@Faceless Ai I see him everywhere to lol. He's such a loser.
@patrickk557
@patrickk557 Жыл бұрын
I'm lucky to have seen these in person before even knowing they existed. The exhibit room felt considerably dimmer than the rest of the Prado, and it hits you quickly that there's a darkness behind each painting, even without the context of Goya's state of mind. Saturn Devouring His Son was shocking to lay eyes on.
@notbloodylikely4817
@notbloodylikely4817 3 жыл бұрын
Something a lot of modern artists forget is Goya mastered his craft before he unleashed his artistic heart on the canvas. Technical proficiency is a crucial foundation to truly awe inspiring but abstract painting.
@lissaquon607
@lissaquon607 3 жыл бұрын
@@WobblesandBean yep - the more simplistic an image looks the more work and skill it takes
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 3 жыл бұрын
As did Picasso.
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 3 жыл бұрын
Most modern artists have a very solid technique, it's taught in art school even if you want to become an abstract painter.
@TheLalalalani
@TheLalalalani 3 жыл бұрын
Same with picasso
@leodtoro
@leodtoro 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! You have to know the rules before bending them
@sunolili862
@sunolili862 3 жыл бұрын
considering how easy it was to become controversial for artists over even the tiniest details in their creations all while this series of paintings looks incredibly disturbing even for the modern viewer, back in his days displaying those works publicly would probably cause a nation-wide riot
@Spezifischable
@Spezifischable 3 жыл бұрын
A miracle these paintings were not destroyed when discovered.
@jayhollows5729
@jayhollows5729 3 жыл бұрын
Good old fashioned religious conservative minded world where Elvis gyrating his hips and people not saying marry Christmas was offensive and cancel worthy.
@joeljanssonhernstrom1819
@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayhollows5729 you seem to have a very narrow minded view of the world friend
@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739
@yugiohboyfriendappreciator7739 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 tbf both of those did cause a LOT of controversy. The latter even more so because it's still being spread by right wing weirdos like Alex Jones and Pajama Watson
@trunklemcjeans
@trunklemcjeans 4 ай бұрын
@@jayhollows5729not just religion. People in general are scared of what they don’t understand. Religion is just another excuse to k*ll eachother like politics.
@DeathMetalDerf
@DeathMetalDerf 2 жыл бұрын
Goya is one of my favorite artists ever. It's not just because of how dark and disturbing they are, but the level of details in the eyes and face. Even when the faces are more obscure and lacking full details they possess this knowing of the darker side of life. Like the subjects have given in to the madness. I just love it!
@supme7558
@supme7558 Жыл бұрын
I see lack of detail
@charliegoodboy6
@charliegoodboy6 Жыл бұрын
you've described those faces perfectly. they are the most incredible faces I've ever seen painted. even though obscure yet each face detailed, unique and full of emotion. What incredible talent.
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind Goya never titled these paintings, that's the realm of art scholars who have to categorize and interpret everything. That said "Saturn eating his son" may actually have absolutely nothing to do with mythology 😲
@austins.2495
@austins.2495 2 жыл бұрын
I find that more intriguing
@Sillymarin
@Sillymarin 2 жыл бұрын
Yo're going too far. But i like it
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sillymarin to far?
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 2 жыл бұрын
@@maggs131 I believe what the other reply means by "too far" is just that, while the original commenter is correct that these titles have all been made up or decided by art scholars in order to have a label for each of these works to discuss and study them by; that one is fairly explicitly a reference to / depiction of Saturn eating his son. (Especially given Goya's familiarity with and tendency to reference Greko-Roman mythology).
@redblackjester
@redblackjester 2 жыл бұрын
Might be time devouring Goya slowly, consuming his very own life
@CherriWhitewing
@CherriWhitewing 3 жыл бұрын
One of the fascinating thing about Goya's interpretation of Saturn Devouring his Son is that proportionally this isn't a child that Saturn/Chronos is eating, but a full grown adult which is very different from the usual myth but even more terrifying in perspective. Imagine the sheer size that Saturn would have to be for one of his grown sons to seem small and helpless in comparison. This is a detail that is also notable is Goya's chalk sketch of the scene which differs somewhat from the Black Paintings one and is more reminiscent of the Ruben one. The two figures that are in Saturn's grasp in this sketch also seems to be adult in proportion. It really makes me wonder why Goya chose to make this artistic choice in his depiction of the sons.
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the era of counterrevolution and the Napoleonic Wars, I see an allegory of Authority's devouring of the common laborer/soldier. Or of gerontic infirmity devouring youthful adult strength, faculty and vitality.
@pinchebruha405
@pinchebruha405 3 жыл бұрын
@@hektor6766 bravo this right here, thank you!
@r0achlezbian
@r0achlezbian 3 жыл бұрын
having the son be an adult also adds the horrifying implication that the son escaped as a child and grew to adulthood before being caught by saturn. somehow that makes it all the more chilling to me, the idea of thinking for decades that you've escaped the same awful fate as your siblings only to be slaughtered when you least expect it is terrifying.
@k8g8s8
@k8g8s8 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard some say that it may be his feelings towards his apprentices. He had people who helped him with paintings while learning from him and where "like his son's" became more successful than him. But there's no evidence that he was ever hostile towards them, perhaps just jealous that they were young and after leaving the court his feelings got the best of him.
@the2ndcoming135
@the2ndcoming135 2 жыл бұрын
Already know🙂
@steampunk456
@steampunk456 2 жыл бұрын
For any gamers out there, I would highly suggest checking out Blasphemous. A lot of the design aesthetic of that game borrows heavily from Goya.
@dontgointothecloset0-05
@dontgointothecloset0-05 2 жыл бұрын
Not a gamer but I would totally play a game with goya's aesthetic
@travis8106
@travis8106 2 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out.
@nikemaraje5
@nikemaraje5 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@missunwonted7
@missunwonted7 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen gameplay of it. It’s a cool game!
@a_lethe_ion
@a_lethe_ion Жыл бұрын
well its also extremely catholic. like eldritch catholicism
@ghj3950
@ghj3950 2 жыл бұрын
In the first painting, "The Dog", i'm almost quite convinced that the darker shading to the right of the dog looks like the silhouette of a man. I could be completely wrong but the way it's painted with sharper and more direct lines makes it look like a distinct shadow instead of a discoloration of the sky. Not sure! Would like to hear someone else's opinion on this. Fascinating paintings.
@Chloepickle15
@Chloepickle15 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. It actually makes the painting even more desperate and upsetting to me. It makes me feel that utter loneliness when you are drowning in depression and other people that might be able to help are just out of reach. Or other people are carrying on with their lives and you are living in their shadow, just drifting further and further out to sea, alone
@darknesskingsized8996
@darknesskingsized8996 2 жыл бұрын
A commenter above you has seen the picture in person and said the same thing. He said if you ever see his paintings, look for parts that were painted over.
@baltasarmelchor935
@baltasarmelchor935 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chloepickle15 deep
@opmoody8935
@opmoody8935 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought the same thing
@luftschloss2352
@luftschloss2352 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - it always makes me think of the idea that dogs can see/sense spirits or feelings that we can’t
@recynd77
@recynd77 3 жыл бұрын
The dog in “El Perro” doesn’t appear to be the one stuck, but the VIEWER: to me, it feels as if the viewer is in a deep hole, looking up at a dog-who isn’t in the hole-but who, in turn, is looking off toward a faint outline of a translucent figure in an overcoat(?). Regardless, it’s definitely bleak. I’ve only begun watching, but I love this…it’s so much better than the lecture I got on Goya in my Art History class a million years ago. 👍🏼
@BlindDweller
@BlindDweller 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love reading the comments from you guys, it's great to hear other interpretations that hadn't occurred to me! Makes me see things from a different perspective 😊
@probablyjoeyy
@probablyjoeyy 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote a paper on Goya. Love this video.
@imag3reader
@imag3reader 3 жыл бұрын
Its actually the nosebridge seen when closing the most near eye to the subject and opening the fartest while tilting the nose into the frame. I imagine the melancholy and the laying around and wondring where the energy must be mustered to actually produce something
@thomassommerfeld8494
@thomassommerfeld8494 3 жыл бұрын
you are right. I also see it more like this. The dog looking down at 'you' and the person seen as more like a shadow casting doom upon 'you'
@rumpelstiltskin9729
@rumpelstiltskin9729 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlindDweller did you happen to find out if the dog was xrayed? There is something about that blank space
@SUPERBLLOOM
@SUPERBLLOOM Жыл бұрын
my psychiatrist recommended you to me recently and i can say im not at all disappointed. the spiraling mental decline of goya shown in his art is very reminiscent of schizophrenic patients art over time. especially surrounding himself with his art literally by drawing on the walls and his surroundings is another major red flag indicator of possible schizophrenia or psychosis. his art while beautiful tells a very tragic story of a man being consumed by his mind, may he rest in peace.
@Struckjess
@Struckjess 7 ай бұрын
Over diagnosis leads to all the glory of his skills in art to be downplayed you should feel shame when doing this. Nobody cares what mental illness he had since he's been dead for over a hundred years.
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 5 ай бұрын
Why do we need to fucking medicalize it?? Schizophrenia didn’t even exist as a diagnosis back then and we still don’t have a strong grasp on mental illness even today
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 5 ай бұрын
Also my psychiatrist has never recommended any KZbinrs to me 😂 maybe you’re new to therapy and psychology as a discipline so you’re eager to see diagnoses everywhere even when they don’t exist. It was called “psych 101-itis” when I was in school
@Mikeanglo
@Mikeanglo 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was depressing. It's easy to see how he felt during this time. This isn't an artist going through an edgy period of experimental art with dark theming...it was real expression of fear, sadness, and paranoia...and it seems like he did all he could to hide these feelings the same way he hid the art in his most private of sanctums. There's nothing colder than growing old and alienated without nary a friendly face in sight.
@z-nab27
@z-nab27 Жыл бұрын
It’s also perfectly understandable that he feared being labelled as “insane” when he was just looking for a way to voice his mental struggles. That could be why he hid those paintings
@scarecrow7421
@scarecrow7421 2 жыл бұрын
One idea that I find particularly insidious is about the Painting: Judith and Holofernes. The idea that the reason Holofernes isn't present in the painting is because Goya viewed himself as Holofernes. His mortality becoming more and more evident. Afraid of death and betrayal. I could only imagine the dread of painting such a thing. A figure preparing to commit a brutal murder. With only one feasible target, you.
@nikemaraje5
@nikemaraje5 2 жыл бұрын
Thought about that too
@GehrmansWheelchair
@GehrmansWheelchair 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, I’ve always been intrigued by Francisco Goya’s paintings. However… I clicked on this video for the sole purpose of saying the thumbnail looks like post Malone. Ended up watching the whole thing though, you did an excellent job of covering it!
@angelzahn1951
@angelzahn1951 3 жыл бұрын
15:15 Spanish student here. This painting depicts indeed the confrontation between spanish men. Spain at that time was divided between “absolutistas”, who supported the autocracy and “liberalistas”, who defended a constitutional government. Fernando VII, one of the worst rulers in the history of Spain, chased the liberalist, either exiling or executing them.
@flatusvocis.
@flatusvocis. 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, this paintings are exposed at the Prado Museum (alongside "El Fusilamiento de Torrijos") created by The Felon King himself.
@Steven_Andreyechen
@Steven_Andreyechen 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that Goya depicts Saturn’s son with the proportions of an adult
@jimbrittain402
@jimbrittain402 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that, too. It makes the painting that much more horrible.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 жыл бұрын
It's one of those things you don't notice unless you pay attention, it's off putting.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 жыл бұрын
@@dootdoot94xo44 I'm on phone so some details are easy to miss.
@joerandm777
@joerandm777 3 жыл бұрын
i think it was (kinda?) explained by another ytuber that it was a way to show the viewers a darker depiction of the greek myth because as an adult, saturn's son was more aware of what was happening, which technically makes the whole thing quite scarier i guess
@anderssteinnes2414
@anderssteinnes2414 3 жыл бұрын
If the title is guesswork I think I would call it 'frightened troll eating a woman'. I see no saturn and I see no son.
@crystalalvarado3724
@crystalalvarado3724 Жыл бұрын
i wasn't interested in art at all until i stumbled upon ur channel, so glad i did, you opened up a new world of art appreciation for me.
@sunarlyn756
@sunarlyn756 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being terrified the first time I saw them face to face, they have a very weird energy around them. I knew nothing about Goya back then and I remember staring petrified at the paintings with the rest of my class.
@gamernation1400
@gamernation1400 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasstatue you mean the shitbull?
@anatomicalvenus
@anatomicalvenus 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamernation1400 its just a dog man
@sunmi2539
@sunmi2539 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@sunmi2539
@sunmi2539 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasstatue lol
@joz-
@joz- 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen that sorts portorayal of the Kronos/Saturn myth. It's always sorta "big evil man doesn't want to die to he selfishly eats his kids" but I really enjoy the more "immortal and powerful being loses himself to the fear of death and eats his children." I saw someone already point it out, but he'd have to be massive, emphasizing his place as a powerful titan. What hits me about the adult proportions, his kids are grown up so being the father he would have raised them only to consume them. Saturn must have had some attachment and love before he ate them. ALSO, once again, he's huge. His children never had a chance of fighting back. It's so cruel and devastating and then you look at Saturn and he's absolutely lost.
@Purplelightningtiger
@Purplelightningtiger 2 жыл бұрын
I love the ominous music you incorporated into the video with the pieces of Goya. This is the first time seeing most of his dark artwork, its truly terrifying or shocking and mysterious.
@pariaheep
@pariaheep 8 ай бұрын
I agree! This video was an eye-opener on the genius of GOYA! Thank you very much!
@badvideosforbadpeople7246
@badvideosforbadpeople7246 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite painting from Goya has to be "Heads in a Landscape". something about it almost scares me more than the black paintings, it's stuck with me ever since i first saw it a few years ago. the way the figures are huddled in the bottom right corner of the painting, they stand in a barren and empty landscape just staring at the viewer. looking at the painting for too long genuinely gives me an overwhelming sense of dread and fear, and it perfectly depicts how much i love Goya's work
@actualtrash5876
@actualtrash5876 3 жыл бұрын
Lilla my ❤️
@CRAETION_
@CRAETION_ 3 жыл бұрын
damn, just looked that up. instantly got chills
@emabanana6545
@emabanana6545 3 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder that some believe it to be the 15th painting.
@bigboyyesyes184
@bigboyyesyes184 3 жыл бұрын
@@actualtrash5876 Nice pfp
@actualtrash5876
@actualtrash5876 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigboyyesyes184 thank you, kind sir.
@ezrastardust3124
@ezrastardust3124 3 жыл бұрын
Saturn’s expression kinda implies he was in some kind of psychosis when he began devouring his son, he regained his lucidity and realised what he was doing, but reluctantly decided to continue because he didn’t want to have to look at his son’s partially eaten corpse. That’s my interpretation anyway. He looks like he’s about to cry so I just made the connection
@akalichamp7030
@akalichamp7030 3 жыл бұрын
The idea that he realized his insanity momentarily but was unable to control himself is also unsettling, but the idea that in that moment, he was so overcome with terror and dread, he decided it would be easier to simply give in to the insanity than confront such a ghastly thing, is utterly horrifying
@bitchface235
@bitchface235 3 жыл бұрын
to me he looks mad. like he is just gone and fully depraved. overcome by psychosis and never sleeping due to hallucinations both visually and auditorily
@m-linko
@m-linko 3 жыл бұрын
God you're reaching so hard. Maybe psychosis, but nothing implies he regained lucidity. Don't be one of those pretentious art students
@valv3277
@valv3277 3 жыл бұрын
@@m-linko they’re just giving their own interpretation. there’s nothing pretentious about it. Giving your own meaning to art is what art is 😭
@irw4350
@irw4350 3 жыл бұрын
happens to all vegans eventually
@AM-vk7qx
@AM-vk7qx Жыл бұрын
i had the privilege of seeing these paintings in madrid today and i was struck by how different they felt compared to every other painting in the entire museum. thank you for painting the context around them
@okaynevermind5130
@okaynevermind5130 3 жыл бұрын
Researchers have FOUND that Goya may have suffered from an autoimmune disease called Susac's syndrome at the age of 46. In this rare condition, a person's immune system attacks small blood vessels in the brain, retina and inner ear.
@blondie9422
@blondie9422 3 жыл бұрын
Oh how awful 😞
@cucomberguy5603
@cucomberguy5603 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like hell
@knifewife4390
@knifewife4390 2 жыл бұрын
That’s brutal, and it makes a lot of sense in a really sickening way. It explains his deafness and his intense fears of losing his mind, when it was literally being attacked by his body. Damn
@neverknowsbest4819
@neverknowsbest4819 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most notable reasons for the disturbing imagery that attacked his mind at the end of his life was that he witnessed directly the war of spanish independence and the brutality of the napoleonic army. A great deal of his printed artwork depicts gory images of the aftermath of the war in an informative matter, making Goya one of if not the first war correspondant or journalist of modern history.
@petete6357
@petete6357 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he made sure for them to be plates that could be printed and been more easily distributed. He new he was showing the world the horrors of war. He made political paintings before, like "Fusilamientos" and "Carga de los Mamelucos". Those are wall sized paintings, so few people could actually see them. Printing the horrors on plates will made them more impactful by widening their reach. As a curiosity, my father worked in El Prado for more than 20 years so I grew with all this paintings even as a kid. Very, very unappropriated for an 8 year old, but I have a great fondness for all this works.
@Rose-hh7mk
@Rose-hh7mk 2 жыл бұрын
Historians also think he may have had undiagnosed Susac's Syndrome which affects brain function, giving him symptoms similar to mental delusion.
@elpiedra1596
@elpiedra1596 2 жыл бұрын
Your video came to my mind days ago, wanted to watch it again because it evokes a feeling of dread and despair that is unmatched.
@Quindolin
@Quindolin 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I recently traveled to Madrid for our honeymoon and got to see these paintings in person. They're on display at the Museo Nacional del Prado. There's a huge portion of the museum dedicated to Goya, but there's one room in particular that holds this series. It's dark and genuinely unnerving in a way. Amazing experience
@UFBMusic
@UFBMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I assume that you also had your first dance to some Black Metal?
@lovleo21
@lovleo21 3 жыл бұрын
Goya is my favorite artist of all time I can't tell you how loud I screamed when I saw this
@mommyslittlegamer9667
@mommyslittlegamer9667 3 жыл бұрын
SAME. the black paintings are such a fascinating topic
@dhanyzaffry4829
@dhanyzaffry4829 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you,of believe in me...hold me tight in your dreams...!
@JimmyNails27
@JimmyNails27 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@probablyjoeyy
@probablyjoeyy 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Favorite artist.
@wallerwa4
@wallerwa4 3 жыл бұрын
Why'd you scream? Was it too scary???
@katherinethompson3239
@katherinethompson3239 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of British artist Bryan Charnley, who suffered from schizophrenia and went off his meds in an attempt to create more interesting art. He kept a journal where he described in literal detail what he was painting. It was supposed to last something like two weeks and took about three months, at the end of which he removed himself from the mortal plane. We know as much as we do about the paintings because he journalled so meticulously.
@lindsayschmidt2177
@lindsayschmidt2177 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of him too.
@ccway7
@ccway7 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reference. Looking forward to looking i to this. So devastatingly fascinating
@user.dsntmtter
@user.dsntmtter Жыл бұрын
The United States harasses victims of deviant sadistic maltreatment by military Child SA’ers who are misusing advanced technology they have access to. They are using technology that is meant to keep Americans safe to secretly watch children, show them deviant content through hacking their devices, and touch them inappropriately or give them incapacitating substances. Victims of this crime are R’d, and tortured and then as they get older are then stalked and harassed both on and offline by creeps that are helping their friends get away with their crimes. They sabotage the lives of their victims to make them as hellish as possible. This goes on for years, and it seems to last their entire lives. Some victims may not even know they’re victims because much of the R happens when they are slipped something or asleep. The only reason you may know is because they may leave behind physical evidence like bodily fluids, bruises, or scratches. The men who do this think that they can shame their victims into silence because some of the actions are coerced. They think that the more depraved they can be with innocent children the more likely they will be too ashamed to speak out. At least some men with access to this technology are using to hurt and R children. The victims are left with little recourse because they likely won’t know who R’d them. They invade every aspect of their victims' lives to try to shame and mock them into silence.
@DNBon.an808
@DNBon.an808 3 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped at 1:27, when Goya's early work is displayed. consider me glued to the screen for the rest of this.
@ASpooneyBard
@ASpooneyBard 3 жыл бұрын
"La Leocadia" is interesting to me. He painted what appears to be a grave over what was originally a fireplace or mantle. It suggests that he "tried" to paint a more traditional portrait, like he used to in better days, but his emotions warped the image to something darker. If that's the case, then it's fascinating that the way it changed during development can add even more meaning then what we can get from the final result.
@craftyhobbit7623
@craftyhobbit7623 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the ones he painted over were meant to be more positive when he first painted them but something happened that caused him to turn them darker.
@WraithTimid
@WraithTimid 2 жыл бұрын
What moves me the most about these paintings is the reduction of detail when compared to his earlier works - this is most notable when comparing the painting of the black goat to his earlier work with the same subject. It’s most likely due to cognitive decline as he aged, but in a way it’s as though he brought these visions to life in some kind of frenzy: the strokes are fewer and more urgent, wild, as if he felt the need to convey them but knew that his time was running out, as Death would soon come to claim him. Fascinating work.
@user.dsntmtter
@user.dsntmtter Жыл бұрын
The United States harasses victims of deviant sadistic maltreatment by military Child SA’ers who are misusing advanced technology they have access to. They are using technology that is meant to keep Americans safe to secretly watch children, show them deviant content through hacking their devices, and touch them inappropriately or give them incapacitating substances. Victims of this crime are R’d, and tortured and then as they get older are then stalked and harassed both on and offline by creeps that are helping their friends get away with their crimes. They sabotage the lives of their victims to make them as hellish as possible. This goes on for years, and it seems to last their entire lives. Some victims may not even know they’re victims because much of the R happens when they are slipped something or asleep. The only reason you may know is because they may leave behind physical evidence like bodily fluids, bruises, or scratches. The men who do this think that they can shame their victims into silence because some of the actions are coerced. They think that the more depraved they can be with innocent children the more likely they will be too ashamed to speak out. At least some men with access to this technology are using to hurt and R children. The victims are left with little recourse because they likely won’t know who R’d them. They invade every aspect of their victims' lives to try to shame and mock them into silence.
@firstlast2636
@firstlast2636 3 жыл бұрын
In the Judith and Holofernes painting, if you ignore the big obvious brush stroke making Judith's right eyebrow look more worried, her facial expression turns to satisfaction. It's as if the brush stroke was a last-minute bit of self-censorship.
@bonafidehomicide5742
@bonafidehomicide5742 8 ай бұрын
I think, that since this was painted in his house, that her original expression must have vexed him somehow. I can imagine him walking through the house, grabbing a brush, and thinking, "Stop looking at me like that, you hag." And then just kind of touching up her eyebrow. But if course, who knows?
@cleoharper1842
@cleoharper1842 3 жыл бұрын
Also, it was common practice everywhere to paint over older paintings as canvas was (and still is) rather expensive. However gaining a peek under the top layer of paint to the paintings below is always so fascinating, seeing what they chose to omit from their bodies of work.
@soy_mateo2
@soy_mateo2 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Spain and you can go to museo Del Prado to see a lot of the work of Goya. There’s a whole section dedicated to his dark paintings it’s pretty cool if you ever in madrid and like art you should go
@Elena-bk4fs
@Elena-bk4fs 3 жыл бұрын
i really like art where the meaning isn’t directly obvious. i like that it’s open for interpretation. this is fascinating to me as someone who thinks very technically & procedurally
@beesalittlenerdbird5949
@beesalittlenerdbird5949 3 жыл бұрын
You know an art video is good when it opens with “viewer discretion advised”
@MissFlow
@MissFlow 2 жыл бұрын
During art class I met the painting 'Saturnus devouring his son" from Francisco. Though at the final exam it was referred to as Kronos (the Greek Titan and father of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades). I remember being incredibly disturbed by it, mainly the look in his eyes and the mangled body, which is completely exposed and in the middle of the painting. Making it nearly imposible to look away from it. This is how I got to learn about Francisco Goya and your video taught me even more about the man. I didn't even know the painting I met was part of this series, made on the walls of his house. As narly and grim Saturnus might be, 'the dog' is by far the most disturbing one out of the series for me, closely followed by "the Man mocked by two women".
@AtrocityEquine01
@AtrocityEquine01 3 жыл бұрын
The Black Paintings are by far the most haunting paintings I ever have come across. I can sit through a lot of unsettling art work, finding stuff done by HR Giger and Zdzisław Beksiński to be beautiful. And yet Goya's _Black Paintings_ just unsettle me simply because of how realistic the atmosphere is.
@jmrivera_piro
@jmrivera_piro 3 жыл бұрын
man I love these paintings! In highschool I had an art history class but the teacher was terrible, at some point he just gave us most topics for us to make a presentation on them, I got to do my presentation on Goya and tell this one story. I explained all of it while the night fell and the classroom became darker (afternoon school), it was amazing.
@pavelkish7142
@pavelkish7142 2 жыл бұрын
That dog painting made me cry. I love how people like you can understand the depths, bottom of something. Most people would give a quick glance and move on, but you.. you see through the painting.. you know the bottom of its meaning. I'm a painter too and you making me inspired and fully interested. GOD bless you.
@jameshancock1528
@jameshancock1528 3 жыл бұрын
I first saw Goya's painting of Saturn in a videogame cutscene as a young child, where Saturn was an antagonist. Despite the devs having photoshopped out the bloody corpse in Saturn's hands, his eyes terrified me just the same. They emanate insanity and danger.
@nguyenheaven
@nguyenheaven 3 жыл бұрын
Please, can you tell what game? I have this haunting memory as well.
@jameshancock1528
@jameshancock1528 3 жыл бұрын
@@nguyenheaven Rock of Ages
@ConnorSimonis
@ConnorSimonis 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameshancock1528 that’s the game with the rock you roll to a certain end point, yeah? I remember this painting too. Never frightened me, just intrigued me.
@jameshancock1528
@jameshancock1528 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConnorSimonis Ye you play as Sisyphus rolling his rock to break the castle doors of his enemies and the cutscenes are made using famous paintings It doesn't scare me now but I was like 5 when I first saw it so back then there were more than a few cutscenes that scared me out of the room for some reason
@juliek5607
@juliek5607 2 жыл бұрын
I believe I first saw it in the game Layers of Fear. Scared the crap out of me, but so did the entire game 😂
@NateTheGnat
@NateTheGnat 3 жыл бұрын
"El Perro" is one of my favorite paintings of all time. It is so simple and haunting. I wonder if Goya had intended it to look that way or if it was an unfinished work. I feel for the dog more than any other figure. It tells so much with just the eyes and so little detail. It is also a very strange subject for its time, as most suffering imagery was related to religious figures or mythology. This is just a simple, nameless dog that has no identity or history behind it that we know of. The fact that Goya did not likely intend it to be released to the public makes it even more interesting and amazing. I wonder what was going through his mind when he was making it. I also love the spacing of the painting and the color of the minimal background which is not black but rather a dirt color as if the dog is buried alive in a deep tunnel with no hope of escape in quicksand. A very underrated painting that reminds me of some works of Francis Bacon (like "Chipmanzee" or "Man with Dog") depicting nameless animals in a zoo or being walked that appear to be suffering and deranged in their isolation.
@thairenea
@thairenea 3 жыл бұрын
To me…I literally saw a dark shadow figure head which to me is like a dark figure actually watching the dog perish…the dog seeing that it can intervene and yet sits back
@grif7746
@grif7746 Жыл бұрын
I actually study at a school named after him in Spain and seeing some of his history is truly incredible
@NobodysGh0sT
@NobodysGh0sT 2 жыл бұрын
I did a project on Goya for an Art class in the 8th Grade and actually focused on his Black Period. I believe the undiagnosed illness was Syphilis. He was and still is, in my mind, one of the most overlooked but heralded by people who've studied his beautiful & beautifully dark strange and mysteriously beautiful paintings that I still believe to be some of the most beautiful out of so many pieces of art Goya created.
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 Жыл бұрын
I agree Robbie. It sounds like it was in the late stages. Just from the brief summary in the beginning. I hope and pray you are happy healthy and doing what you love the most. Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲❤️
@toddhoward5555
@toddhoward5555 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an artist myself. One thing about the dog painting, which to me is as well one of the more fascinating of Goya's black paintings, is how the ground or dirt in which the dog is trapped in is moving upward. The dog is trapped and the expression on its face is one of absolute hopelessness. The way the dirt is swayed upward almost making the dog seem like it's being dragged against its will, to somewhere up there. But the scene and the skies are murky so the dog doesn't know where its going, why things are the way they are, but he's being taken up to probably its final resting place in the heavens. I have a feeling its the last painting he made. Its the most minimalist, and according to some reports was the cleanest of the bunch showing the least amount of aging. I believe this is when Goya just let go completely. His artistic expression in its purest form. It's in my top 50 most disturbing paintings of all time. The kind of paintings that delve a little too deep into our humanity and reality without constraint. Dragging you into the abyss of the artist through the lens of your own psyche.
@thyanon8304
@thyanon8304 3 жыл бұрын
Good review mate
@sebakisniesebakisnie6109
@sebakisniesebakisnie6109 2 жыл бұрын
what are the other paintings on your list? its very intiguing!
@MatrakenKEN
@MatrakenKEN 2 жыл бұрын
Release TES 6 Todd!
@bonesandbonesandbones
@bonesandbonesandbones 2 жыл бұрын
I'd also be interested in knowing of other paintings you find disturbing. Completely agree with what you're sayin, very well said
@NightTimeDay
@NightTimeDay 2 жыл бұрын
Who has a top 50 list of disturbing paintings? Sure that's not just a flex? Lol
@Koszegi89
@Koszegi89 Жыл бұрын
I would like to offer my greatest thanks for this video! I saved it into a playlist before I went to the Prado, then headed in the room with all the 14 black paintings in all their horrific glory and listened to it like an audioguide, while watching the original ones. It was just splendid, so much better than the museum audioguide. It really deepened the experience, I am very grateful!
@beanwaddlers
@beanwaddlers 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent as usual. Goya’s black paintings are a big inspiration for the more horror-derived things I draw and paint, so I was very excited to see your take on him. I’ve always felt that part of the allure of this particular series is the intimacy of it; the niggling feeling that you’re looking at something almost too personal to view. I find that it’s part of how captivating they are to look at despite the uneasiness they dredge up.
@xxpatrick204xx
@xxpatrick204xx 3 жыл бұрын
Reported for ñ word. Enjoy your ban!
@drue.09
@drue.09 3 жыл бұрын
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@xxpatrick204xx
@xxpatrick204xx 3 жыл бұрын
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@drue.09
@drue.09 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxpatrick204xx oml you have to be a troll
@xxpatrick204xx
@xxpatrick204xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@drue.09 at least I'm not racist like you
@camilaodom1344
@camilaodom1344 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the most famous of these when I was at the Prado in Madrid. They hang in a dark room together and just being surrounded by these made you feel something primal and fearful like a fraction of the fear he must have felt.
@GypsyRock
@GypsyRock 2 жыл бұрын
Very very cool that you take the time to feature and dissect (as well as reccommend the channel of) viewers’ art! Much respect. Ty, A!
@uncachocorcho
@uncachocorcho 3 жыл бұрын
Saw them in a trip to Madrid. Goya's black paintings are my favourite pieces of all spanish art history, the paintings itself are terrifying to watch, they really haunt you with those expressive, screaming and agonizing faces and colours. Even the historical context is terrifying, I'm really grateful for learning these things at such a deep level on spanish schools.
@supersaiandemon
@supersaiandemon 3 жыл бұрын
I was always fascinated with Saturn Devouring His Son, and I wanted to learn more about the artist who created it. But I was hesitant to do so due to the fear of getting a psychological feeling if the man. Oh God, it almost feels like a mistake watching this documentary, but it is unbelievably fascinating. You can just feel the fear and despair in the paintings as if they were your own. Its as if the depression and anxiety is just oozing from the paint. Imagine being Goya yourself? These fears as yours and these thoughts being your only companion in your head. This was a terrible day to get high, I tell you what.
@jbags4195
@jbags4195 3 жыл бұрын
It’ll be okay brother, I lowkey feel the same way because insanity or whatever the insanely distraught mindset this man had was is one of my biggest fears, just know your minds stronger than you think and won’t just switch up on you like that Bc you watched this while high
@pamelapamper
@pamelapamper Жыл бұрын
Hahaha u sound like me, friend. I can tell u're a man or woman of high pursuits, in many ways 😄
@retroguyst8132
@retroguyst8132 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I think it's very cool the way you elevate new artists, especially your own fans at the end of the video. The Goya documentary was fantastic but the end is uplifting because of the way that you're celebrating new creativity
@rupexo
@rupexo 3 жыл бұрын
man this video is so fucking good. i can't believe content like this is free - it's better than anything on tv imo
@jaytakajeremiahtisdale2042
@jaytakajeremiahtisdale2042 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who's interested in art, Goya's paintings that he drew on his walls are disturbingly beautiful, may he Rest In Peace.
@dso4594
@dso4594 2 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel and I must say it’s grown to one of my favorites. The mood, the story telling and the knowledge. Amazing. Thank you.
@enriquecadlum189
@enriquecadlum189 3 жыл бұрын
The painting El perror for some reason almost evokes a feeling that the perspective was from a man in a ditch, about to be buried, looking up at his dog just out of reach. I know the perspective would be a bit off, but if Goya was succumbing to his miserably deteriorating mental condition during his painting, it could be possible that this can be a metaphor for his isolation and inability to reach out for help.
@vengaya2544
@vengaya2544 3 жыл бұрын
I love he doesnt make as blameitonjorge or nick Crownley and make a 30 second pause between phrase and phrase, instead, this is a video of full information at any point of the video Love your content: keep it up!
@fakacoon8864
@fakacoon8864 Жыл бұрын
God, every time I got an ad on this it was SO jarring. You were so thorough and thoughtful, great video!
@pherasabraxas
@pherasabraxas 3 жыл бұрын
I started painting again myself. The eyes in Saturn are what get to me the most. It's almost like he realizes the horror of what he's doing. The madness I guess. I paint with really bright and vivid colors but this shit gets to me in a good way.
@codywallace3041
@codywallace3041 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by the Dog since I've seen it. So simple and open to interpretation. Maybe it's wrong, but I've always seen it as the best of animalistic instincts looking upward at the shadow of man for guidance, not drowning in quicksand. That is why it is such a strong painting, so different interpretations from so little.
@lynneperry7454
@lynneperry7454 2 жыл бұрын
Goya loved dogs and when a friend sent him one from a different part of the country was very distressed and angry with the cart-driver who had made the poor little dog walk the distance. No wonder he was able to say so much with so little in The Dog.
@itzelheruiz9139
@itzelheruiz9139 2 жыл бұрын
that just blew my mind that's a beautiful interpretation
@Annatomova7
@Annatomova7 Жыл бұрын
I have severe mental illness, and have grappled with my own sanity. I am also deeply religious (orthodox Christian), but very chill at the same time. I don’t like organized religion as a whole, and I despise the Christian church in general… like Goya, I’ve witnessed some of the most horrendous things humans can do to one another… I was sexually abused as a child. I have ptsd, depression, paranoia, anxiety and OCD. I’ve also dealt with psychosis 😬 that was a deeply terrifying experience. I’m medicated now, and I’m finally getting the help I need. I really love art, and I enjoy making it too. Goya has always been my favorite painter. Whether it’s his lighthearted works, his prints, or his black paintings, I love it all. I always felt understood by his art. I think, if I had been alive back then, I would’ve wanted to be his friend. I’m actually moving to Madrid in a year and I hope to see as many of his paintings as I can, in person!!
@CreeepYT-xe1ds
@CreeepYT-xe1ds 3 ай бұрын
I'm a Christian who went through Ocd too, I hope things are going well for you
@denniswijmer4988
@denniswijmer4988 3 жыл бұрын
Technically/ paintingwise these dark paintings are sublime. Strong/ expressive, suggestive powerful brusstrokes. Forerunner.
@Jeff-xh4sy
@Jeff-xh4sy 3 жыл бұрын
In the painting of a dog, I immediately made out a ghost like man figure standing over to the right of the dog, looking down. It could just be coincidence or discoloration, but I see it pretty clearly. Does anyone else see that? The man's head is about halfway up the painting if you have difficulty seeing what I'm seeing
@Marledame
@Marledame 3 жыл бұрын
I also immediately thought that I saw a human silhouette
@UndergroundCandy
@UndergroundCandy 3 жыл бұрын
It could also be pareidolia.
@xshadowscreamx
@xshadowscreamx 3 жыл бұрын
I always seen the painting as a big hole that the dog can’t escape from and yeah I do see a shadow of a man.
@brianmiller915
@brianmiller915 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was painted over
@jupita551
@jupita551 3 жыл бұрын
Same! To me, it looks like a shadow of a man about to hit the dog with something :( unsettling!
@JacksliftsVODs
@JacksliftsVODs 2 жыл бұрын
i did an art assignment on him and was immediately intrigued by the morbid and dark portrayals
@cleoharper1842
@cleoharper1842 3 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to Goya at about 12, when I was devouring one of my brother's art text books. I think it was "Gardner's Art Through the Ages." It completely changed my views on both art and history. After reading the book I was a lover of both. What I loved about Goya was the immediacy of the feelings his work gave me - at once chilled to the bone, yet validated for the first time that the world was indeed not the way everyone around me kept telling me it was. I remember feeling emboldened, and became obsessed with discovering the truth of the world around me. What people *really* thought when they felt safe enough to speak their minds. What *actually* happened in events, instead of the glorified historical versions (i.e. Thanksgiving or the Pullman Strike). Goya, of all artists, turned the world from black and white to blazing color. And there are people out there that say art has no power.
@aodhanodonnell2148
@aodhanodonnell2148 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar Wilde said "all art is quite useless" I always disagreed with it but now I see why he was wrong, art and ideas create the world
@samknapp8547
@samknapp8547 3 жыл бұрын
Turn to Jesus Christ, the way the truth and life
@cleoharper1842
@cleoharper1842 3 жыл бұрын
@@samknapp8547 You are really barking up the wrong tree. This is not the place for you. This is the only warning you will get from me. Please, take it seriously.
@LususxNaturae
@LususxNaturae 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like he KNEW these paintings will be seen, but he just wanted to wait before showing them. So they would be his final series. It’s the genius dedication for me. I shall do the same.
@junkivore7379
@junkivore7379 2 жыл бұрын
I can't seem to find Denise Statham online, but thank you for featuring her art at the end of the video. I found it extremely intriguing and I wish I could show her support in some way.
@Bikewithlove
@Bikewithlove 3 жыл бұрын
3:13 - The town where Goya was born - Fuendetodos, is pronounced “Fwén-Dé-Tó-Dós” - with equal accent on each vowel. I visited Goya’s house in 1989, and saw the black paintings in Madrid. If you ever get a chance to see them in person, don’t pass it up.
@ireallybeclowninghuh3414
@ireallybeclowninghuh3414 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you describe these paintings so much, the painting of the dog already gave me a feeling of hopelessness and saddens but the way you described it made me tear up, keep up the good work I can't wait to hear more from you ♥️
@GregBiggsDETHKIDS666
@GregBiggsDETHKIDS666 2 жыл бұрын
THIS WAS AMAZING THANK U SO MUCH Being a lifelong artist and now dealing with not only serious physical disease but also mental issues my whole life this was very very theraputic and healing TY so much once again!
@jaydubya3698
@jaydubya3698 3 жыл бұрын
A few things: 1. Some have questioned whether these paintings were done by Goya himself, though I think they are definitely his work given the subject matter and the strangeness of previous bodies of work like "Caprichos" and "The Disasters of War" and the fact that they were never really meant to be seen. However, many of the paintings were significantly altered via paint loss when they were transferred from the walls to canvas. Imagine seeing them for the first time on site. Damn. 2. These are really the first expressionist paintings, about 100 years before the idea had a name. Technique and "correctness" become less important than the emotion of the work. Take, for example, the right hand of the man on the left in "Men Fighting with Cudgels." The hand is incorrectly drawn; his right hand is more like a left hand given its position above his head. But somehow, it works, making his arm to appear almost broken, twisted, distorted.
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