The One HUGE Feature Missing from FabFilter’s Pro-Q 4

[@ManchesterMusic]

Just to be clear: I'm *NOT* advocating that AI-tools should have been built into Pro Q4. This video is about Fabfilter deciding against AI-technology when they could have easily followed a trend that's showing no signs of disappearing.

[@gabeatv]

@@ManchesterMusic I think a lot of us commented before hearing your final thoughts. It’s a great topic, and you covered it very well.

[@user-go9xk8zx3z]

I for one didn't think you were advocating for it. I just thought it was strange that you thought it was strange. Why would you think they would include AI? You're Fabfilter. Your 'Thing' is you make superficially basic tools that are very competent workflow beasts: probably the best developer at putting as much control in the hands of the user as practicable as quickly and easily as possible. You make the most popular EQ in the world, but it's looking a little feature-light now, and you think you're ready to try to pull away again. You have to look at what's nipping at your heels in the actual market, and what people are asking for. It's not AI. That's been a mixed bag at best. AI is also off-brand. Their thing is giving the user a high degree of easy control. Letting you do what you want more effectively, not doing it for you. You also have to think about what you're well prepared to put in a product. That's not AI either. "Easily followed"? They have no background in AI I'm aware of. They'd have to start over, outsource or bring in a new talent pool. So they went with building on their dynamic implementation and made it spectral. Very smart. Bring a soothe-alike into your EQ, where you can use it most efficiently. Nice additional feature, great workflow improvement. The other big deal, and my favourite, is controlling every instance from any instance. Huge workflow improvement. Sprinkle a bit of saturation. People have often opined Q's cleanliness. Optional saturation is a a rational inclusion. Not going to say no. The Curve EQ....I see what they're trying to get at, and its sensible and 'on brand' as a possible workflow accelerator. Not a fan, personally. And the humble but mighty all-pass filter. Yes, please and thank you. They added features that double down on the Q line as workhorse workflow-monsters and fill in a couple of weaknesses. Whether they meet anyone's personal preferences (it's not 100% for me), they all make perfect sense, and show that they know what they're about as a company, and listen to their customers. The big thing people have been wishing it had is transient/sustain. Maybe they weren't as well poised to do it, maybe it's coming, maybe they made a mistake and should have done that. I dunno. I like you Geoff, I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I just think this is a really weird point to have tried to make: what they were doing and what they chose to include makes good sense. It would have been really, really weird if they did include AI. Totally left field from them, and a huge risk in lots of ways.

[@sonicmojomusic]

Geoff - love the video. However "Ai" is poison for a lot of marketing these days. I for one - am glad there is NO Ai in this thing. If there was - I probably would have thought less of it. Good on Fabfilter.

[@samuelvelhomusic]

"deciding against AI-technology" They actually had some sort of "AI" before, with the automatic detection on dynamic bands. Now in Q4 it's dumbed down to percentages, instead of milliseconds.

[@vicneve1169]

AI in an EQ has never worked for me. Because AI does not have the knowledge to make EQ decisions. Especially in relation to the other instruments in the mix. And in relation to vibe and emotions. Not once did Neutron or Smart EQ gave me the correct settings. And often it created more bands then I really needed. For me AI in an EQ is nothing more then a distraction. And I say this while using AI for my work every day.

[@davidallanmusic]

I agree with you.

[@hotairballoonmusic]

I think the exact same.

[@djflusso]

It's worked for me, at least as a starting point

[@IntheDAW]

I agree not a fan of ai in eq. As much as everyone is pretending nutron is the best thing since bread it wasnt doing much for me.

[@Anktual]

Try zynaptiq unfilter and intensify.

[@Seraph137]

I'm glad they did not include AI.

[@ZAY________]

THANK GOD

[@lonelystranger57]

Yep...me tooo

[@Seraph137]

Fabfilter, if you're reading any of these, please do not worry about AI, seriously! Now if you want to offer REALLY good emulations of hardware, that is fine :)

[@user-go9xk8zx3z]

It's pretty simple. AI-driven EQs haven't overtaken proQ3. Why would they follow the lead of those behind them? Meanwhile, they listened to what people asked for, tallied it with what they were poised to implement, and prioritised accordingly. There are loads of AI assisted EQs. None of them have become go-tos. Pass. There are spectral dynamics that have emerged since Q3. They have become staples for many. So...what if you could just have that in your workhorse EQ? Per band. Adaptive spectral compress and expand. Trigger off the filter, some other part of the same sound, or external sidechain? A faster problem solver and more useful mixing tool, right in your EQ. New ability? No. Far faster and easier? Yes. The big thing that people actually wanted that it doesn't have is transient/sustain split. I haven't seen anyone else mention AI. I, personally, wanted melodyne sound editor like harmonic based 'EQ'. Because the idea of that with FF workflow makes me very happy. But maybe no one wanted that. (It's actually the best EQ in the world. It's just gated behind melodyne studio and its workflow is like the opposite of pro-Q).. Fabfilter, to the best of my knowledge, have never invented anything. Voxengo have been doing etch-a-sketch EQ for....ever, I think. 14 years? (its called curve EQ). Not dynamic, not inter-instance display, not iter-track build up, etc etc. Their thing is workflow optimisation. FF got where they are by making plugins that are the best combination of capable, easy to learn and easy to use that you just find yourself going for them. AI, in my experience, gets you to 'a' sound faster. Then you spend more time unfucking that sound than you would if you just used something with a blistering workflow and your ears. Apparently, I'm not alone in that. It's not there because not enough people want. Transient/sustain and partials-based would be nice though.

[@chordsoforion]

I am concerned that at some point, these AI-driven tools will include clauses in the license agreements that allow them to use our audio for training their models. Not into that idea.

[@CalvinMOfficial]

I'm glad it don't have AI. Well done Fabfilter 👏🏽

[@larswillsen]

As my Inuit dad always said: "Does it run without electricity?" .. no? .. then it's not important :)

[@1BILLYOFFICIAL]

Respectfully I don’t want ai in any plugin PERIOD! computers don’t make or listen to music people do, I love ai in some things but as I have learned from using mastering ai when you give AI an absolutely trash mix it still masters it it does refuse it or say it needs to be mixed better does it

[@sancessounds]

My favorite feature of the Pro-Q 4 was that there was no AI.

[@thisisplegoleen7625]

No AI is needed. That is bullshittt. Let fabfilter Pro-Q3/Pro-Q4 be a legend always.

[@phonemproductions]

"... your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should..." -Ian Malcom, Jurassic Park

[@simpleluke]

From my perspective, the main thing that's missing is the possibility of enabling and tweaking the spectral side-chaining from the multi-window instance. It's like receiving a git locked in an invisible box.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Yeah this and transient/sustain is what people are saying is missing.

[@jiznak2000]

In fab filter’s introduction video for pro Q4 he mentioned that he’s used to working in the analog realm and that part of his goal was to bring that experience closer to the user. Maybe that’s why they didn’t include AI into this particular tool.

[@Crossfire2003]

The Pro-Q 4 not having AI features in it is a plus, for me.

[@LawrenceAaronLuther]

I immediatly scrolled just to like this comment.

[@itswhzly]

One doesn’t buy a brush to paint itself

[@MixedByDotRob]

IMHO, Fabfilter are on the right track by not just slapping AI junk on their products. I would have preferred Apple to bring back ARA in the last Logic releases (= massive workflow improvement) instead of integrating AI features (stem splitter) that are already available everywhere.

[@adithyasatheesh127]

Tried pretty much everything on the market that marketed itself to have this AI shenaniganism happening and not once was I pleased with the results. Not isotope, not sonible, not nobody. The only time I found AI machine learning to be actually useful was in stem separation and Noise removal. Fabfilter knows this. Pro Q4 is the craziest upgrade I've seen in a plugin ever. Equing is a very emotional process. I don't think AI knows emotions. At least none that I'm aware of Yet. I like that you've stepped away from the fabfilter hype community and decided to make a video very different from the once I've been recommended for past few days but yeah we don't need AI in an eq plugin.

[@LuvHrtZ]

While Pro-Q4 allows you to adjust the EQs side by side in overview mode and displays the conflicts across tracks in that mode, it does not allow you to set up side-chains from that view to automatically reduce the conflicts. I've been using Pro-Q4 today.

[@andivax]

yup, it's kinda weird.

[@barbierash2137]

Fabfilter has no need for "AI".....it's called PRO for a reason....Pro's don't need or prefer "AI"

[@ManchesterMusic]

I actually disagree with you. In my conversations with many professionals in mixing, restoration, and mastering (at tradeshows and elsewhere), they’ve expressed a strong interest in any workflow that helps them solve problems faster-whether it's AI or traditional DSP. Professionals are often under pressure to do more in less time, so tools that can clean up or remove obstacles are highly valued. I think both professionals and amateurs share concerns about AI's potential to disrupt the industry, but professionals are especially worried it could render their expertise unnecessary.

[@DavidMurphy-up3ve]

I think that people who rely on AI have enough time on their hands to learn how to use the tool.

[@laserfloyd]

I've used the AI tools for reducing noise in a voiceover in RX, which I like. However, the AI "mixing/mastering" tools have never impressed me. I always get something that's far beyond how I wanted a track to sound. I just build my effects chain by hand.

[@ManchesterMusic]

I'm curious what might happen when AI tools do start impressing folks in the mixing space the way they have in the restoration space.

[@7LEVELbeats]

​@@ManchesterMusic they won't for 2 reasons: 1. "AI" tools have achieved things in the restoration space that have simply not been possible with any other tools before which is also why most of the music world has embraced AI stem separation tools. 2. restoration is generally not viewed as a creative, artistic or 'fun' process.

[@madbaron228]

There's a perfect application here for AI. With the multi-instance mode in instance list, AI could be leveraged here to identify masking and make several recommendations with assumptions you can preselect which could then be auditioned and applied. I'd use that feature as a pro.

[@Seraph137]

Speaking of GUI, It would be cool if Fabfilter made a DAW :)

[@MarcoRaaphorst]

The decided to stay away from the one button fix and kept close to the original idea so that you as the engineer can have as much control over sound as possible. This might not be for people who want a quick fix. Many AI options are available for auto eq-ing for example voices. But when mixing it comes down to listening a personal preferences. So no quick fix. I am glad some companies stay away from easy fixes and AI as a marketing tool. Pro-Q 4 is the most advanced all in one EQ in my opinion. In the hand of an expert it can result is superb sound.

[@RichardHerczeg]

Pro-Q4 is a real ‘game changer’. A word overused by most plugin company shills. A seasoned engineer armed with a Pro-Q 4 will achieve more exciting results than ai. I suspect that iZotope will be replacing the shills with ai before they can handle FabFilter’s ground breaking Pro-Q4.

[@_chroo7775]

One of the great aspects of FabFilter is it's light on CPU. Put Q4 on all tracks and keep on going... AI would likely cause a significant increase in CPU demand. If needed, there's a great selection of presets to get close.

[@jacksteal5991]

Exactly!!! So light and fast to load. All the AI/Smart stuff are so heavy and use a lot of buffer latency that makes everything just a tad slower, especially when you want to use a tool literally on every track

[@alexgwiza]

I think ai would make proQ too heavy on CPU. ProQ is known to be light weight which is good for big sessions. The other thing is that most people do not use ai features anyway. I own sonible smart Eq, Neutron, ozone but I barely use those features.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Yep, i'm seeing a lot of similar sentiment.

[@roberteismann1929]

I wouldn't be AI anyway as AI is not yet happening whatsoever. I actually applaud FF for not going down that tiresome route.

[@JamesJones-th3ml]

I think you seem to think that fab filter is these other companies' competition. To me it's the other way around.

[@noice7381]

It's not strange, this is pro-Q 4. They'll add AI to Novice-Q 1

[@easyvelvet77]

And... after all those years, who still need something like AI to make some EQ curves? So glade they considered that we might know how to work a bit. Hopefully you can find that function in other companies, isn't it??! And yet, it's still the most used EQ on the market! Who really does an EQ with AI... Instead of giving thanks to the people who revolutionized EQ interface and gave us one of the most amazing plugin ever, pointing at this AI is a bit "petit". I could make a huge list of all the amazing features of ProQ since it came to birth, I'm not sure to believe in the "one button plugin".It may help a bit , but, for sure it doesn't help people to learn properly how to do it themselves. "This video is about Fabfilter deciding against AI-technology when they could have easily followed a trend that's showing no signs of disappearing." I don't know for you, but i usually like people who DO NOT FOLLOW THE TREND, but prefer to follow their gut feelings.

[@Seraph137]

I think they have the most polished GUI, I like the new multi-track view.

[@DrMax0]

I have to say that I do not miss AI in Pro-Q4 at all. The suggestions that AI-powered EQs do are ... well kind of uniform and ok in a boring way. I realized that starting from AI suggestions I tweak as much as If I hadn't had any AI head start at all. AI is not musical, by I am, so .... well you get the drift.

[@mariomaslik]

I think Fabfilter were very thoughtful of it and im sure they considered it, so I believe that Pro Q4 is aimed as a tool or utility for your craft not a robot that does the craft for you. I think it was the purpose to keep it simple and powerful. Imagine a hammer or pliers with AI

[@aaronthomas7790]

I've never found any of the AI features in izotope, smart eq, etc. to be helpful so I don't care they're not jumping on that band waggon. Fabfilter is the fastest workflow for me and most reliable so that's why it's an instant upgrade.

[@gab_gallard]

Not every single plugin needs AI. EQing is a pretty creative process. For sound design in paricular, EQing is as its most powerful when you do it in unintuitive and exploratory ways, without knowing exactly what are you gonna get until you actually listen to the results. AI can't understand this because it only copies processes that it finds in its training data. In something like iZotope's Neutron where the desired output is to accelerate the mixing process of standard mainstream music productions, it might work, since pop music styles nowadays are a pretty streamlined process, so data can be extracted consistently. But in a general use tool that doesn't target any genre or workflow in particular, it simply doesn't. A general use tool like an EQ or a compressor should offer enough for you to do what you wanna do without trying to shoebox you into what the product "thinks" you wanna do.

[@ashtreeaudio]

I think the AI features are a bit of a gimmick when it comes to the AI assistant on any EQ’s. I don’t think many working engineers will really care about the lack of AI features on the pro q4 to be honest. Although, I’ve tried the ai feature in eq’s like Sonible, it is never something that I would use on a day-to-day basis as part of my workflow and most mix engineers that I have spoken to feel the same way. It might benefit someone who’s new to the mixing process, but I find it can be counterproductive when you are in the mixing headspace. There are areas in sound that AI will really work well in but, in this case, Fabfilter made the right call leaving it out of the Pro-Q4.

[@DSWL_]

its great ff decided to commit AI

[@gabrielthesingingpilot]

Because AI is ruining the music industry and Fab wants nothing to do with destroying itself

[@triplebeam23]

Ill never want A.I in my music .. if it's little enhancements I'm ok with that but one click and it does all these drastic things.. ill never be cool with that

[@MrMore8]

The beauty and satisfaction of creativity is that we create something ourselves, rather than having a tool do for us. There's a serious risk that AI will replace humans in creative industries. No artist wants that to happen, and for the moment at least, it seems FF don't want that either. Kudos.

[@RudalPL]

I am no pro. Just a chap in the living room and I've been using Por-Q3 since it released. Loved so much that I bought their compressor and limiter as well. Just the interface helped me learn a lot on how to use EQ, limiting and compression. It was just easier to understand what is happening by looking at the visuals. People don't mix with your eyes, and I agree, but when you are learning it's easier to understand what is happening when you can have a visual clue. Don't get me wrong, I love Ozone plugins and all the tools that are coming with it (especially the tools) but somehow I always tend to reach for Pro-EQ first. I think the AI is good when you are learning and not fully understand the process or need a quick reference but once you start getting a better grasp at things it's just gets in a way. As an example. I used Ozone to "master" my tracks but once I got the hang of it I stopped using assistant at all. I use the tools provided by Ozone but I won't use the assistant unless I am stuck or for fun to see how far away the AI master will land from my own. Do we need AI? No. It's helpful but not necessary.

[@tkelong3569]

Interesting what you’ve brought up regarding the lack of AI as it relates to the Q4 functionality. For me they didn’t need to update the Q3 because all I really care about is the incredibly sweet sound that that eq delivers, the new features are kind of cool or whatever but as long as the sound quality of the Q4 continues to excel as the Q3 did, I’m in. Who knows, maybe I’ll find some of the new features useful. The upgrade price isn’t too steep although I would have appreciated another $10 decrease in the price. $90 is a little too close to $100. This was probably ready by Black Friday so they could have given that $10 back if only for a week. Not a deal breaker. I’ll pick it up eventually. They do get credit for having a month long demo. That is an excellent offering that I for one, will be taking full advantage of. Thanks for the video.

[@lawinter1949]

I think the word AI is starting to lose its sexyness. I think AI will be used in most things from now on but they just wont call it that because it doesn't help their bottom line. Fabfilter has historically never needed buzz words for their marketing so I am not surprised they don't say AI at all.

[@HoobtheNoob]

Audio post mixer here - I'm not interested in AI decision making for all of the reasons you mentioned. Not to mention it's just faster to use my own ears. Given the complexity of the projects we deal with in this space I don't think there's much chance AI will be useful for a long time

[@metalstrand2795]

iZotope and Sculptor is cool sure, Bloom is even better. We do need an AI ARA drum edit & debleed plugin, tho

[@Soundadb]

Ai is an estimate of gaterhered measurements and in the end you can't tell whether those measurments are correct. I'm so glad Fabfilter didn't include this. Clear mind , clear decisions, my property.

[@MIHAO]

Honestly, I personally don't care about the AI features. What I really wish they added instead is a feature all Izotope EQs have - an ability to audition frequencies before placing a node with a mouse click and a modifier key

[@roberteismann1929]

you can audition frequencies whilst placing a node.

[@jcpuga]

I was thinking Split EQ functionality 🔊

[@andivax]

unfortunatelly no

[@translationstations]

GOOD! Keep it that way, please...

[@deeplydisillusioned683]

You may see a seperate fab filter tool coming yet intigrating several features of their plugins into one.

[@FakeHeavenBand]

It's like asking for a robot to play your guitar because you are "wasting time" playing it! Come on man, no one asked for creativity to be part of the machine.

[@sarpozdemiroglu]

And splitting transient and sustain is missing like ozone eq, split eq. And also frequency tracking like surfer eq does for 20 years but maybe they think soothe like operation would solve that. Maybe they reserved them for Q5.

[@andivax]

transient and sustain AND it's panning.

[@Appleloucious]

GTA SEVEN?! GTA SIX WOULD BE A GREAT START 😂😂😂😂

[@ManchesterMusic]

oooops!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

I wouldn't say it's... ..."missing"/missed

[@AVDRE]

Same

[@kellendustries]

I agree with pretty much everyone else - this doesn't need AI with the one possible exception, I'd like some sort of AI to help the EQ match section - if you're doing a lot of post where you are trying to match a voice memo someone recorded in their closet 🤦‍♂ with in-scene dialog recorded in a parking lot outside, the AI could help separating the noise from the dialog then matching the voice. Often the current match will add ridiculous 20 dB boost in the low and/or Highs which are never wanted on dialog. Maybe they could do an AI match where it had some choices of what you're trying to match to give it a chance?

[@AdamElteto]

Well, this is not the EQ AI droid you are looking for...

[@tkelong3569]

In a way, you are advocating for the introduction of that technology into the Q4 because you’re not making any points about why it’s a good idea to not incorporate that tech. There’s only one other side of the coin. Having said that, there would be absolutely nothing wrong with your advocating AI functionality in the Pro Q4. I love what Izotope has done with Ozone 11 and use it in every song I record. Obviously FabFilter has a very talented dev team so it would be interesting to see what they’d come up with. Perhaps in a future update to the Q4. Only time will tell.

[@mixphantom0101]

I'll take fast, easy, high quality and comprehensive workflow over any A.I. gimmicks. I'm sure FabFilter will adopt AI once it's actually "intelligent"... currently, the izotopes, Sonibles etc. are analysis tools that make an educated guesses based on measurements - I own them all and quickly got tired of trying to fix their "intelligence" 😉 Also, most have not mentioned that Q4 supports CLAP - FF could be have the "hooks" in Pro-Q4 for a central brain that will talk to all their next generation plugins - the tools are all there, just waiting for the mothership!

[@Rocknrolldaddy81-xy8ur]

I can’t use an AI because I’m trying to make vintage sounding music. The AI will probably try to modernize the sound too much…maybe in a few years…

[@alemarrena8792]

I thought you were going to say lack of transient / sustain mode. Which is also a strange decision. And to me it's a deal breaker.

[@illnoyz5054]

Ai wouldn't be bad if it was more accurate in it's decisions but I'm not really a big fan. So glad it's been left out.

[@lyteside]

I just wish they had added tonal vs. transient EQing :(

[@grandagitator]

to be fair attack and release times help a lot with getting a similar effect to transient eqing. just sucks its done in a % and not ms specific.

[@martinhanson4281]

Ah interesting. I never even thought about the lack of AI. I confess that I have been recently gravitating to plugins that don’t have AI. I’ve started using PSP Audioware plugins and am blown away at how good they sound despite their age. I have lots of izotope and fab filter plugins but have forsaken them because they are too clinical and not vibey enough. I have tried AI but the tools with it in never quite got me to where I wanted to be. The results were always too harsh, bright and top end heavy. Not sure why that is. I guess what they were trained on maybe?

[@Anktual]

They may have the largest user base and most of them are profesionals. They could use their i put to train the ai.

[@xtian1]

AI has no place in my artistic world. I don't want my mixes standardized or in keeping with someone else's notion of what sounds good. The mixing process is just as artistic as the writing, playing, and recording of the song and there are a million good yet different bass, drum, and guitar sounds. That's the beauty of FF stuff. It is meticulously engineered to let you do what YOU want to do. And if you don't know how to clean up your low end or pleasingly eq or compress things - learn how to mix better.

[@peterfj6218]

Hard to imagine the face of Izotope being objective in this matter 😅 I do prefer Izotopes tools over FF though (besides their ridiculously high upgrade prices)

[@ManchesterMusic]

I don’t work for iZotope

[@peterfj6218]

@@ManchesterMusicok sorry for the misunderstanding - thought you worked for them

[@ManchesterMusic]

@ it’s ok. I left about a year ago.

[@abhishekinmusic]

I don’t know but somehow I trust your voice. It’s like whatever you teach becomes my guaranteed thing to try out in music making. I would love to see more of tutorials from you and also hopefully paid course about full music production to mastering suite course.

[@martybyrde49]

Wouldn’t you consider the spectral shaping feature AI?

[@ManchesterMusic]

I wouldn't. Spectral processing is still adjustment of amplitude of different frequency bands, albeit with many many more bands. Think of it like a small army of multi-band compressors from 20-20khZ.

[@TimMer1981]

AI can be used for reducing technical complexities, like automatic phase correction, timing alignment, etc but if you ask me the creative process will always be more clinical than a human, unless you train AI with huge libraries of human made music, which again brings its own set of problems with it. AI is and always be just a computer, a machine, even though it will get better and better at rewriting its own code: even if programmers give it emotions, they will still be artificial: it has no soul, no life. It will appear conscious, but it won't be: it's just extremely complex programming at work.

[@n1tr0sys09]

emmm no, I don't wan any AI on my plugins, ff pro q4 is meant to be on every channel, optimization, speed and easy of use are way way more important than that.

[@kadiummusic]

Just a polite reminder everybody... AI is just very clever software. Don't be frightened, don't be fooled. 😎

[@ManchesterMusic]

Completely agree.

[@Hansen91203]

I wonder what Dan Worrall would comment on this topic🤔

[@expresswayrecords7306]

Literally no one is waiting for GTA 7😂

[@ManchesterMusic]

Hahahaha oops

[@itswhzly]

AI is a distraction imo. I don’t want to save time.. I want to explore and play with an EQ I want to play with my tools I don’t want to rush through them.

[@kinggizzard8499]

AI would introduce a LOT of bloat to what is still a very lean plug-in. On PC, the executable weighs in at 4 MB. Remember, many people use this plugin on every track in their project and it is very CPU and memory friendly. AI is just not worth it to sacrifice this. AI has a place, but it is quite often marketing over value. I hope FabFilter never introduce AI.

[@melodikmusic]

Great!

[@jl9205]

I think AI is fascinating, but also creepy and ultimately dangerous. It's a Frankenstein story come to life. We have given life to entities with the world's entire body of knowledge at their virtual fingertips that may ultimately find us to be slow and plodding obstacles. In the meantime, I find it oddly rewarding to slowly learn to mix my own tunes. It's a slow road, but the journey has its own rewards along the way.

[@lowrater]

As interesting AI is, and as a guy in Tech working with and training AI, then i just dont think it's good enough - for my use atleast. All the software i have, where it's included, i dont use it. Just take copilot from microsoft, it can't even give relevant information on a 600 page PDF file. I do think in the future AI tools will be great, but now.. no, but it's interesting to keep an eye on.

[@bestdisco1979]

A I is I it’s infancy ,,,,way too soon and not that good. It’s not mandatory.

[@huberttorzewski]

AI in eqs suck. I'm glad they haven't introduced it into Pro-Q4. That being said, I like Neutron eq for vintage and baxandall shelves

[@CFM7]

Instead of AI nonsense, how about a little gameified ear training tool built in to help people learn to EQ.

[@ManchesterMusic]

That could be cool..

[@blessed_by_welfare5922]

I don’t want AI. the only thing missing is split eq features.

[@andivax]

I love AI equalization in Sonible Smart EQ 4. BUT only if I use my own reference profiles.

[@jahana81]

Great content. Thank you Geoff, this is so true. I want AI to do things for me that I dont want or care to do because of redundancy or workflow. Equing is fun and certainly something that involves more than technical aspects, AI eq plugins has not still gave me good results so it becomes a waste of time.

[@ardierr.2525]

I m at the beginning of the video the answer is no split transiant/tonal

[@ArthurKlisiewicz]

I personally do not like AI in a music. Especially in EQ. You are getting lost like most of humans, hoping AI will fix their life. The goal is not to get music sound like AI PRESET. It is to have fun while doing it, and create what the person feels is good, not what the computer feels is good.

[@mattbukovski92]

AI in equalizer plugins just doesn't make sense to me. There's one particular issue nobody seems to care about or address in their videos... And it's that "smart EQing" anything in isolation to make it sound good on its own, doesn't really help you mix the whole song. Yes, thank you AI for making this snare sound big, but let's listen to it in context?... Mixing is not about making each element sound good/correct with an AI-learning preset. It's about listening to the whole mix and addressing issues between tracks. Also about artistic choices, having some type of a vision, taste, individual direction. AI won't help with that. Sorry. PS. Maybe they could've implemented some AI auto-mixing features in that global EQ view where you can see multiple instances at once. I don't know if it's actually 100% possible inside modern DAWs? However, auto-mixing multiple tracks would be just extremely confusing for a human and how do you consciously take control over this precise puzzle - designed by a machine after "listening" to just 10 seconds of your track? I guess they might have tried it but were not satisfied with the results.

[@amunahm3324]

I own the newest versions of advanced Ozone, RX, Neutron and whatever that is that I can’t even remember the name lol. But I use ProQ3 instead lol. I collect iZotope plugins just for fun. I don’t use them coz they use lots of AI support. I recently bought SpectralLayer from Steinberg too, to replace RX lol. I would not buy ProQ4 if they integrate AI into it. I’m glad that there’s still EQ that don’t use AI.

[@gabeatv]

Please don't say AI, please don't say AI... oh.

[@ManchesterMusic]

hahahahah

[@JamesJones-th3ml]

Never got into AI much man. I turn down all the offers on my phones that ask to use AI Assistant LOL. I think if all Plugins were AI controlled our own ears would lose focus. In other words, we would be sitting back and letting AI do all the work. Never gonna happen!

[@vadimmartynyuk]

They’re saving AI for Pro-Q5

[@bringyourownheart]

This plugin is geared for people who know what they want already...and know how to use it to get that done. AI is for newbies and driven by a fad.

[@Jam_Bon]

Delighted it’s not included.

[@musar03580]

Please, no AI.

[@tlawhon]

AI is not something I want in my studio. It's mostly just a buzzword, in my opinion. I have been a software developer for decades, and a musician for 55 years... I don't buy into every new trend that comes along.

[@rafaelhernandez5550]

Thank you very much, but for me I am the AI. Everything that I do in music I want to do my self I don`t want any other help maybe if it is a person.

[@johnplainsong9769]

Me no want AI unless it does better than I.

[@shawnyvibes]

You always say to use our hear and fab filter letting us do just that.

[@mingomarrero]

Maybe they do an update maintenance and include AI capabilities in the future. “4,1 Now with AI assistance” lol