The Only Way To Play: The Farming Item Tier Chart

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Erick Wright

Erick Wright

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@boobufestu
@boobufestu 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Stardew valley music Because this is a video about farming Good one Erick
@C.O.R.E_Supermacy
@C.O.R.E_Supermacy 6 жыл бұрын
Came down to the comments to say just that. Cheeky Aussie.
@carmeneyo
@carmeneyo 6 жыл бұрын
Took me 20 minutes to make the connection myself, what a cheeky fuck.
@sasquatchpariah92
@sasquatchpariah92 6 жыл бұрын
What about the Spyro Music? XD
@Barlakopofai
@Barlakopofai 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the one where he put the C.O.R.E music with the core items segment in a previous video.
@jaydenrutherford-jones5053
@jaydenrutherford-jones5053 6 жыл бұрын
@@C.O.R.E_Supermacy hes a New Zealander but i guess its kinda the same
@B00tsnake
@B00tsnake 6 жыл бұрын
Where's the bangbus video Erick
@LostCosmonauts
@LostCosmonauts 6 жыл бұрын
I find it highly realistic that they get girls in vans with skeezy guys. I'd be able to suspend my disbelief if it was the other way around. Rest assured I've submitted a few scripts and Treatments to the Bangbus producers, so hopefully they'll hire me to do fix it.
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 6 жыл бұрын
bang-migrant-boat Oscar worthy drama
@kekemoron
@kekemoron 6 жыл бұрын
we all know clarity is the absolute best (S++) farming item
@indie8845
@indie8845 6 жыл бұрын
which makes... SOUL RING the KING!
@MAMAJUGO
@MAMAJUGO 6 жыл бұрын
Erick Wright : The Best Way To Enjoy DotA
@raimaxmezuku9138
@raimaxmezuku9138 6 жыл бұрын
friends. turbo, everybody pick supports and buy carry items. have fun
@Michael-us8xg
@Michael-us8xg 6 жыл бұрын
@@raimaxmezuku9138 add "and buy wards" and that's how I play dota these days.
@raimaxmezuku9138
@raimaxmezuku9138 6 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-us8xg oh yeah never forget the wards
@MrAskmannen
@MrAskmannen 6 жыл бұрын
S Tier: Being the "mid or feed" guy A tier: Micspamming B tier: Being a russian PA main C tier: Being high and telling everyone in game about it D tier: playing without speaking to anyone F tier: cooperating and communicating to get a win in a close game
@thecoolertoadman
@thecoolertoadman 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrAskmannen SS Tier: Uninstalling SSS Tier: Going back in time and preventing installation in the first place
@Volnost
@Volnost 6 жыл бұрын
Anti-Mage is a game mode, single player farmville
@up3046
@up3046 6 жыл бұрын
I guess i failed the #NoNutNovember Thanks EDJE.
@visionsnake8093
@visionsnake8093 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in 2020 and realized that he was 2 years early on the Necrobook hype train we have today. Genius!
@ZetruH
@ZetruH 6 жыл бұрын
i subscribed to this channel for the adult movies analysis. What is this??
@ezekielleveriza4071
@ezekielleveriza4071 6 жыл бұрын
Zetru that was a joke video made for April fools that was uploaded late
@benzur3503
@benzur3503 6 жыл бұрын
You quit after I quit, you return to the game after I do, I’m starting to think when I’m asleep I wear an astronaut suit and make dota videos
@masons2442
@masons2442 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure hes actually back, I think theres a decent chance this is like a 3-4-5 month old video that he never made public
@maximilianokallens2379
@maximilianokallens2379 6 жыл бұрын
@@masons2442 The gameplays in the background are very recent :/
@SoulBro12
@SoulBro12 6 жыл бұрын
This is Pre 18 footage because there is PMS 47:25
@yourworstenema9721
@yourworstenema9721 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like you both got the 6 month banhammer.
@ezekielleveriza4071
@ezekielleveriza4071 6 жыл бұрын
Maximiliano Kallens have you got la 6 month ban la
@inthewasteland
@inthewasteland 6 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos man. The only guide-maker that can make an hour long item-guide entertaining as fuck 💪🏼 Great work my man 😘
@NeoCat1993
@NeoCat1993 6 жыл бұрын
2 Things: 1. You didn't mention Battlefury's other passive, which increases your damage against creeps by a whopping 60%. So if your hero has 100 Damage and attacks once every second it already does almost the same for you as Radiance (not considering the 45 ↔ 65 Damage difference) while being 750 Gold cheaper. So while it's in a way attack speed dependant like Maelstrom I don't think it's an overall bad item. 2. Everybody counts the 2150 gold as the "Midas repaying itself" value, but let's be honest here, in which game where you get it do you plan to keep it for the very end? So realistically after getting 1075 Gold you already regained the "loss" in overall farm, although you of course dispose the other 50% until much later in the game.
@selkegore
@selkegore 6 жыл бұрын
NeoCat1993 That info is irrelevant. He agreed that a BF let’s you farm stupidly fast, the issue is just it doesn’t do ANYTHING after. If you can clear all 5 camps with mask, or with bfury, and one is 2k cheaper and is useful in fights, which one do you buy?
@C4uSt1CO
@C4uSt1CO 6 жыл бұрын
@@selkegore 65 damage isn't useful in a fight? showing up to the fight with full mana and hp isn't useful? Meanwhile, MoM will more than likely get you killed in a fight if you aren't sniper who is engaging from super far off. If you don't use it's active, it is 100x more useless than battlefury in a fight.
@apsinthos5439
@apsinthos5439 6 жыл бұрын
@@C4uSt1CO it's +45 dmg now, but the increase percentage of attacking creep was never really mention. But then again the ranking is based generally on all carries, if not all hero. Sure, it works so well to AM cause he can jump from one jungle camp to another and have regen to tank and spam blink, but it's not working on ranged hero which drop the rating.
@apsinthos5439
@apsinthos5439 6 жыл бұрын
@@C4uSt1CO I mean what heroes which make a good use of battlefury exactly, without losing much of their fighting potential (like PL Battlefury over Diffusal)? Jugg, Anti-Mage, PA (arguable against Desolator)
@selkegore
@selkegore 6 жыл бұрын
C4uSt1CO 1. Lifesteal is extremely useful, active or not. 2. This is based on farming. You can farm a single camp equally quick with MoM and BF, but MoM lets you get to camps faster. For 2,000 bloody gold cheaper. You can buy both Midas and MoM for the price of battle fury.
@SKITZ_MONEY
@SKITZ_MONEY 6 жыл бұрын
this will be a tier list based strictly on the items ability to generate gold for the player *proceeds to give battlefury F tier because it does nothing outside of farming*
@Herlgar
@Herlgar 6 жыл бұрын
Mostly because it's often difficult to regain the 4.4k gold invested into it compared to the much lower cost of Maelstrom which does essentially the same thing
@protercool
@protercool 5 жыл бұрын
@@Herlgar Thats definitely not true, BF increases farming speed tenfold
@OppositeOfMute
@OppositeOfMute 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@lorddashdonalddappington2653
@lorddashdonalddappington2653 5 жыл бұрын
Except no, because if you listen to his spiel at the start of the video, he doesn't say that first thing. The list is not "Which items are best at farming" but "Which farming items are best".
@btfo420
@btfo420 5 жыл бұрын
@@protercool I don't know, with BF got a change to its damage type, I'd say Maelstrom does better, and it could be upgraded to Mjollnir.
@brunoe.g.wingerter1132
@brunoe.g.wingerter1132 6 жыл бұрын
41:18 Embers sleight has not been random for a while, it's always the smallest line between ember and targets
@humandisaster3902
@humandisaster3902 6 жыл бұрын
right at 37:21 Erick goes from "hahey memes funny whoo let's go" to something out of an LSD handbook.
@dannap8831
@dannap8831 6 жыл бұрын
i love these high level strategy videos. They are super cool and there are definitely not many videos of this quality on youtube in general. cool stuff!
@Demilich23
@Demilich23 6 жыл бұрын
The part on meteor hammer is absolutely genius. Stuff like that is why I love your videos =D
@silvisakeru
@silvisakeru 6 жыл бұрын
Arguibly he got that part wrong. Meteor Hammer is clearly an S tier item for farming and more! I play it on Nyx, basically a better dagon and a stun follow up, allows for aoe crowd control, kills people with its aoe 90 magic dps for 6 (540 or 305 after 25% reduction). You actually just erase waves, put the enemy at a huge HP/stun disadvantage if you hit 3 of their heroes, easy to hit with disables that lasts approx 2.5s, like Nyx. That is not counting the stats that gives sustainability and HP.
@BlackPurist
@BlackPurist 6 жыл бұрын
Umm Erick, where's the other video?
@denispetrov7551
@denispetrov7551 6 жыл бұрын
probably on patreon
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 6 жыл бұрын
red-youtube iYKwIM
@terrorkind
@terrorkind 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for making another really long and informative and easy to follow video. i am a noob who's been playing for like 900 hours but i learn so much from your vids and they really help me apply the way you think about things onto other problems, as well. teaching me things beyond the content of your videos. amazing work. if i wasnt fuck-poor i'd subscribe to your patreon immediately and i will someday.
@smilinggeneral8870
@smilinggeneral8870 6 жыл бұрын
the ultimate farming build : boot of TP midas bf mjollnir manta radiance enjoy your 9 report
@XTYRMIN8Z
@XTYRMIN8Z 6 жыл бұрын
Where is this fabled aura wars video you allude to?
@Yummomummo
@Yummomummo 6 жыл бұрын
Patreon
@MasterAarott
@MasterAarott 6 жыл бұрын
I've been buying necrobook on my pos 5 supports for ages, it's nice to finally be validated. It is in fact even better than Erik makes out: -When you send necros to go farm lane, it's the necros who get ganked, not you. -Because Tier 3 reveals invis, suddenly you are spending less money on counter warding halfway through the game. -When you are a squishy support who dies instantly come the teamfight because they have a backline bandit like spectre, storm, weaver etc, necro books give you a way to stay in the fight; or if the enemy is too strong at that point, you can send them to split push while the enemy are distracted fighting your carry. -Necro gives you mana regen, which you can spend farming even more creeps. -Necro is especially good on anyone who does not right click very hard, because the necros right click for you. -Outside of the recipe, the components themselves are not useless or particularly expensive: if a casual bracer is bought to tank up, why not a casual belt? My favourite heroes for necrobook are Crystal Maiden, Enchantress, and Undying. I'd do the same on tree if I wasn't already buying meteor hammer and did not need blink. The only issues with necros as a farming item is firstly that if you are using them to farm remotely you are not getting the xp, secondly if you can feed the enemy if you are not careful (though this is still better than feeding yourself).
@randothomas3733
@randothomas3733 6 жыл бұрын
When you have your necrobook done as a support pos5, probabbly not before 20min+, your two/three cores should already big enough to farm all the avaiable creeps within a minute and so i steal from them. Except they want to team, but then you should be part of this anyway. I might be wrong, though :)
@HouseVesper_StarsectorEdits
@HouseVesper_StarsectorEdits 6 жыл бұрын
That Necrobook revelation actually hit me hard! I've got to try that out!
@Demilich23
@Demilich23 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know hero damage did 1000% to all targets except structures :P
@quintessentialTesla
@quintessentialTesla 6 жыл бұрын
Old warcraft 3 damage type mechanic: Hero, Normal(150% to normal, less for others), Piercing(bonus to light, less on heavy), Siege(2x to structures, half everywhere else), Magic(bonus damage to heavy armor, less on normal)) Chaos (100% all) To pair with the armor types as well: Divine, Heavy, Normal, Light, Structure
@AotO_DJ
@AotO_DJ 6 жыл бұрын
They changed thaaaaat. It's been more than 3 years that they changed it.
@robertvandyk1886
@robertvandyk1886 6 жыл бұрын
Midas gives you reliable gold- which means you don’t lose it on death- meaning that you can’t lose the gold you gained from it unless you buy back or buy an item- making it great for supports who want buyback, or for heroes that die a lot. It makes farming “reliable”
@mvpmikey
@mvpmikey 6 жыл бұрын
36:43 It was a new change for balancing purposes. Formerly, all proc items has the same mechanics. This was NERF big time by completely shutting off other similar items. Nerf Hammer however did not affect Critical and Maim. Each proc works independently from each other, means it stacks.
@lonebrowvg5219
@lonebrowvg5219 6 жыл бұрын
What Aura war video are you talking about???
@oathkeeper005
@oathkeeper005 6 жыл бұрын
its a patron video according to the description. THis video seems to be an old Parton Video that was reuploaded. Hence why the gameplay has old TI Turrets on the map
@samcraig8533
@samcraig8533 6 жыл бұрын
I remember ages ago when Vlads was buffed he mentioned he was working on an aura item script and that he was going to change it, although the video never came out. This probably also never came out, but he's releasing it now for some reason, maybe because he's starting to quit dota
@TheAnig140895
@TheAnig140895 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. I haven't played dota in 2 years now, but I love watching EDJE's content
@heywardcharles3994
@heywardcharles3994 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how much work you put into these videos. 🤘🤘
@rueligonzales5829
@rueligonzales5829 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't finished watching the video, but I just want to say that you're amazing.
@necrophosthereaper7934
@necrophosthereaper7934 6 жыл бұрын
Meme hammer is such a good item, you can just cast it from afar on a creep wave and go back to a safe spot knowing that every single creep hit by it will die, and that you probably won't get picked off unless the enemy in on to your strategy. The stats are good, it's affordable, can be used on buildings, can be used on heroes, it stuns... Invest in memeor hammer.
@AdamIzzy
@AdamIzzy 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos, Erik. Your charisma and humour makes DoTA super fun. KEEP MAKING VIDEOS PLEASE
@MrJetsparker
@MrJetsparker 6 жыл бұрын
You hid a bully:scholership edition theme in there Nice bro. Brings back some memories
@exodia275
@exodia275 6 жыл бұрын
Invoker breakdown. Also very nice video. Really opened my eyes to necronomicon. Will definitely try it out
@XxAmageddonxX
@XxAmageddonxX 6 жыл бұрын
I know you get those commentd a lot. but I had to add mine: havent played dota since the introduction of underlord.. but I still come back to watch your channel because of the informative but still entertaining vids! keep up!
@breegan9527
@breegan9527 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos make studying actually enjoyable. Thank you!
@amedicabg
@amedicabg 6 жыл бұрын
Brian The Teutonic Idk whether you’re praising him or saying that compared to this even school studies are more interesting And at this point, I’m too afraid to ask
@breegan9527
@breegan9527 6 жыл бұрын
dragozal im just a bit bored and it’s good to listen to him while reviewing my notes
@thetemptingurge8945
@thetemptingurge8945 6 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest things for MoM is the move speed. I forget which KZbinr said it, but he pretty much said you should only ever use the active to MOVE. Some times during a camp, but you can't shave 4 to 5 seconds off just getting to and from jungle camps with it.
@НикитаСоломкин-э6ю
@НикитаСоломкин-э6ю 5 жыл бұрын
Erick, the amazing educational DotA video as always. But you forgot one tiny thing about midas. You probably can sell midas and get 1075 gold, so technically if you could use midas each 90 sec, you start earn profit from it after 8 minutes of use.
@Balmak_mage
@Balmak_mage 6 жыл бұрын
Are you happy now? Nisha farms with rushed Necro book on Arc Warden.
@Archimo
@Archimo 6 жыл бұрын
I personally send my necro book to farm the jungle with heroes like lycan when there isn't any good pushing opportunities, Have been thinking on how well it would do as a farming item in general, guess I'll find out soon after watching a bit more of the vid.
@MrAskmannen
@MrAskmannen 6 жыл бұрын
The new item "Crown" is a top tier farming item boiiiiiiiiiz
@artemklets
@artemklets 6 жыл бұрын
I can't understand how MoM is C tier and morbid mask is S tier smth rly went wrong here.
@apsinthos5439
@apsinthos5439 6 жыл бұрын
Plus, u can actually dissamble it, which might lead to either Satanic or Butterfly, even both
@nonstopogre1184
@nonstopogre1184 5 жыл бұрын
because morbid mask is pure un-adulterated lifesteal and can also be built into 3 different items for a vast variety of farming heroes and only costs 900 gold while MoM has attack speed active but also silences you and costs 1900 gold
@shuffle5081
@shuffle5081 6 жыл бұрын
whilst i implore you to do what you want and not what everyone else wants, i REALLY like the dota videos and i subscribed for them. Partly for what you describe (videos you pass out to in the background) and because i love the long, informative but comedic dota videos. I wish that you don't pack these videos in all together is basically the TLDR
@prathamshrestha5313
@prathamshrestha5313 6 жыл бұрын
Are you depressed
@metalmichew2
@metalmichew2 5 жыл бұрын
i like how you explained midas here, esspecially addressing newer players. considering i am a newer player too, i think that that is pretty good, the last patch before the current one (i dont know exactly the name or 7.(dont even know)) I build midas in one game because a streamer was building it on a hero i like to play Most newer dota player come from either League or Hots, I come from Smite, where every single possibility to get more EXP is exploited, the "adc" role and their support tend to build Clear comps, Last hits dont really do that much so just clearing the wave is better (a last hit gives you about 2 gold extra on top of the clear gold) so after you clear the wave and the wave is pushing into the enemy you either go get their "purple buff" (anti armor/magic resist buff) or your own purple buff. that gives you about half a level of extra experience, junglers wont say alot about it and it is generally frowned around if your jungler even leaches exp from that buff considering the early extra damage a "clearing comp" has compared to a "hyper scale comp" (so mostly early to late game comp thing) Considering there is not really generally a jungler role in Dota i had to get used to a 212 comp matchup with either your top or botlaner (yes this is what i called the off lane back then) to go get some extra experience from, Considering that I picked up what the item is pretty early and understanding the game a bit more in general (I hit master tier in smite 2 years ago) about moba's and the importance of farming, i picked up the item every single time and cleared the least worth creep with it, I saw how good the item was at an early point, it also made me try and acctually jungle (ursa mostly, how overpowered that might sounds in the jungle) I am not great at all, but after playing calibration i am currently (first year ranked) sitting in the upper area of Legend with this streamer i talked about (ancient 7) telling me i can do alot more if i'd acctually played more so i mean, i think its more the idea of reading up what an item does. Sometimes in normals i like to pick certain heroes that i really never play and acctually have to still read what an item does. This is really why i like dota to be fair, The difficulty compared to the others mobas!
@WarriorAjk
@WarriorAjk 6 жыл бұрын
Just curious is there a way to have hot keys for the neutral creeps you dominate? Because I have a hard time jungling with DS and a dominated creep.
@mishagolub8227
@mishagolub8227 6 жыл бұрын
If you have only one dominated creep you can use "select all other units" key. It defaults to nothing, but can be configured to whatever you like.
@Keslorian
@Keslorian 6 жыл бұрын
was that the bully music around relic time? or am i going insane?
@travn3r
@travn3r 6 жыл бұрын
Love the bully soundtrack at 45:50
@PaszerDye
@PaszerDye 6 жыл бұрын
Radiance on a core Necro is the best thing ever tho...
@MaeveWumbo
@MaeveWumbo 6 жыл бұрын
You making this video actually confirms that talon will be added back in 7.20. Whenever you make guide, valve always does something right after to make it irrelevant. Maybe we'll even see a whole jungle rework! I'm excited.
@spacerat17
@spacerat17 6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna watch this between games, then you said "grab a bag of popcorn" and I said to myself "fine, I'll skip one game" and made some popcorn
@hunorendrevizi1483
@hunorendrevizi1483 6 жыл бұрын
Respect man:D you've got yourself a new subscriber:D
@pareidolia6
@pareidolia6 6 жыл бұрын
Imo MoM is S+ on ranged agility carries atleast, it gives you insane farming potential with the active if you have any damage item whatsoever and builds into 2 late game items a majority of agi carries build, so you spend 2000 gold towards late game items but it also lets you skyrocket your gpm I phrased this horrible but hopefully you whoever actually reads this gets the memo
@spongygames
@spongygames 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, Wright. One hour? Don't scare me like that! I don't have enough time to watch it all in one go. :c
@user-bp6eh7en1v
@user-bp6eh7en1v 6 жыл бұрын
Everybody mentioning the Bully theme while I'm enjoying half an hour of Spyro nostalgia.
@iszigo50
@iszigo50 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question. What about sange&yasha? It gives movement speed, health, demage, attackspeed and an effect. It's also not that expensive.
@stuartbailey5985
@stuartbailey5985 6 жыл бұрын
@Erick Wright, I know you don't like battlefury, but what do you think about it on pangolier as it synergizes with his q?
@redstoad6497
@redstoad6497 6 жыл бұрын
At the start of the video I was sure I was not gonna find Euls here because that is the item that has the least farming in it. Even its active allows you to *not* kill a creep for a while! Boy was I wrong
@last_rival
@last_rival 6 жыл бұрын
That Sniper uses necro to farm jungle camps but turns off his Aquila.
@101razzer
@101razzer 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the Spyro music.
@TheGoonGamers
@TheGoonGamers 6 жыл бұрын
Im actually rethinking the way i play carry now thanks to this video
@ryanlutes9833
@ryanlutes9833 6 жыл бұрын
Necro book being used to push only sounds dumb in a vacuum. Yes, if you were sending your necro units in alone against a tower, you would do next to nothing. What it actually does is push _with_ your creeps, _against_ the enemy creeps and into towers. The result is you will have more creeps attacking for longer. Of course something like a mek or vlads could be said to have a similar effect, it requires your hero to actually be there, at risk, when you could be being useful somewhere else. HotD is probably the closest to necro book on paper, the choice between the two being situational. Would you rather have necro creeps with their unique spells, or a beefed up neutral of your choice, or catapult? It just depends.
@AdamChan318
@AdamChan318 6 жыл бұрын
So from the thumbnail, is helm of the dominator S rank? I've always thought of it as a good support item to help farm carries early
@linusdannull1247
@linusdannull1247 6 жыл бұрын
19:35 Was that a pun?
@touyakami1406
@touyakami1406 6 жыл бұрын
When's the reworked huskar guide (シ)
@TenorSaxx
@TenorSaxx 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Only one thing bothers me. You didn’t consider echo saber.
@humzahkhan820
@humzahkhan820 6 жыл бұрын
How old are those Spectre clips dude? :thinking:
@mattiasbravo4567
@mattiasbravo4567 6 жыл бұрын
ok but like what about helm of the dominator? 2000 gold for solid stability, potential tower push (siege creep), jungle farm + wave push (hellbear, alpha wolf)? where does that land it?
@gorebello
@gorebello 6 жыл бұрын
best period: "it's just fun. remember.... fun?"
@inity
@inity 6 жыл бұрын
i need more of this erick :D need more of your videos
@lobwver
@lobwver 6 жыл бұрын
On Eul, you can use the invulnerability of Cyclone to ensure siege creeps about to get destroyed by your towers, it always works for me.
@RageCricket007
@RageCricket007 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Erick, would you consider a Midas on a position 4 roaming pudge to be worth the opportunity cost of a possible blink dagger, blade mail, or maybe spirit vessel that might’ve been farmed instead?
@selkegore
@selkegore 6 жыл бұрын
RageCricket007 I’m not too good a player, but I don’t think it’s worth the opportunity cost. Pudge can farm decently, as well as needs to be killing heroes in laning phase. A Midas will give him more EXP, but a blink will allow him to get way more kills regardless, and a spirit vessel will allow him to never have to go back to base, so I personally think it balances itself out regardless.
@JamesMichaelDoyle
@JamesMichaelDoyle 6 жыл бұрын
I autoplayed into here from dota failsof the week, stayed for the smooth voice and accent, enjoyed theamusing content
@andreashandinberntsson4428
@andreashandinberntsson4428 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda don't even wanna tell anyone about this. Necrobook + Dazzle... Creeps resets duration from Poison Touch on hit. More targets for your Shadow Wave and if you walk into any creep camp in the jungle and almost one-shot it with Shadow Wave. Later when you got lvl 3 book, get Shivas Guard so you can get vision on high ground and destroy any and all wards on the map.
@benjaminbustamante7924
@benjaminbustamante7924 2 жыл бұрын
It was so broken
@andreashandinberntsson4428
@andreashandinberntsson4428 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbustamante7924 Good times, good times.
@asjoowjcs9858
@asjoowjcs9858 6 жыл бұрын
Another 1h video where Erick list a ranking of something? Sign me the fuck up.
@ryansander2019
@ryansander2019 6 жыл бұрын
I can see your far down the rabbit hole. At least you found one.
@mangkey7297
@mangkey7297 6 жыл бұрын
Been waitin this whole year for that oracle guide
@barnetcj89
@barnetcj89 6 жыл бұрын
That's weird on Beastmaster I use necro's to farm enemy jungle while i farm lanes... and that's for two reasons. 1) Steal enemy farm possibility. 2) See when enemies are coming. Since they run rel fast they can always run away, and they always ALWAYS find wards...
@marceloliri
@marceloliri 5 жыл бұрын
This last music, is of a game over screen of a game that I used to love... but I don't remember the name.
@marceloliri
@marceloliri 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck, just realised is FFXII. Welp, keep it up the good taste.
@Nia_dota
@Nia_dota 4 жыл бұрын
Erick was ahead of his time, remember when we had the Spectre Meteor Hammer meta?
@Hillbillyspree
@Hillbillyspree 6 жыл бұрын
Battle fury is bad for most heroes, but there are a few that work well with it, and one, AM, that absolutely has to have it.
@JacksonJinn
@JacksonJinn 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the buildup is a multi-pronged road where you can get what you need when you need it (hp, mana, or damage if you're otherwise good) and far beyond that is *consistency.* There's no reliance on crit chance, there's no need to proc 3-4 different Maelstrom bounces to kill a creep wave, it even takes up your Quelling Blade slot so it becomes super effective against NP. And more than that? It makes every melee hero who has it have something they would not otherwise have to nearly the same extent. Wave clear. BF isn't just a farming item. And that's why I don't have to care about a DOTA-quitting hipster calling it a bad item I shouldn't get on, say, Broodmother. Brood pushes, it's what she does. It enables pushing faster and without her broodlings having to sit with her to do it. Enough hp and mana to sustain consistently. And late-game? When every second counts? I'd rather devour an entire creep wave in 1-2 attacks than the 3-4-5-6-7+ you still need to deliver for *every other item on this list.*
@marcino457
@marcino457 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the only time people (by that I mean pro players) considered skipping it was after the cleave change, but after a week everybody either stopped picking AM or went to the previous build
@JacksonJinn
@JacksonJinn 6 жыл бұрын
@@vjbd2757 All items built for *fighting heroes,* not clearing creeps. Brood doesn't clear creepwaves any faster than any other right clicker, and an overreliance on spiderlings to do that job is what leads to her counters. I have won more games with her because I can delete creepwaves to get at their base faster than they can coordinate to stop the push more than I have playing a decent teamfighter. Desolator, Orchid, BKBs, et cetra? They're not bad items on Brood, obviously. But BF works for me, and turns my already high mobility into outperforming AM in farm, or pushing like Tinker could only dream of. It works for me. And if it doesn't for you? You're not trying it. As does BF work for many, MANY heroes if you know what you're doing.
@youthemanbitch6134
@youthemanbitch6134 6 жыл бұрын
not comparing boots? boots are the best farming item
@NateTheScot
@NateTheScot 6 жыл бұрын
Have to updoot already just for the "mmmmmmm'radiance"
@tarotaro6933
@tarotaro6933 5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree on the battlefury rate. It is only a cosiderable pickup if your hero has skills synergy with it, like PA (triple shifting dagger cleave), Jugg (omnislash cleave when people standing close to share the slash hit) and AM (has no skill synergy, but farming speed is mainly determine by how fast you can kill creep with no traveling time in between packs). The only reason Battlefury has such high purchase rate are because these heroes are pick almost in every game. Other than that, no other hero in any giving situation should consider buying battlefury. Did I forget to mention, please don't get a 20mins+ BF, it is worse than seeing ppl getting a 20 mins BF than a 20 mins hand of midas. SMH
@dhawalsonar6379
@dhawalsonar6379 6 жыл бұрын
whos the best at teaching good and bad builds equally ... love ur vids bruh
@rask4p
@rask4p 6 жыл бұрын
Small typo at 43:45, "Where medusa beats out battlefury..." instead of manta beats out battlefury.
@wes8turtle
@wes8turtle 6 жыл бұрын
That sneaky Bully theme song (y)
@HouseVesper_StarsectorEdits
@HouseVesper_StarsectorEdits 6 жыл бұрын
Where's the P O R N R E V I E W, Erick?
@apsinthos5439
@apsinthos5439 6 жыл бұрын
The MoM getting C rating is baffling, the thing give u lifesteal which is good at early game, +10 aspd +20 dmg and an active which make farming a camp or waves real quick, even potentially make carry become an early figther in early clash. And THAT'S NOT ALL, u can actually DISASSEMBLE the items back, which lead to, commonly, making Satanic and Butterfly. No gold wasted for buying this item early game at all.
@RenanMeloC
@RenanMeloC 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, the spyro music. I love you.
@DigitalYojimbo
@DigitalYojimbo 6 жыл бұрын
9 mins radiance, unless it's the enemy alchy with my team feeding; 5mins.
@TheB3astGaming
@TheB3astGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Erick, can we have the sources for your last video? Asking for a friend.
@no3ironman11100
@no3ironman11100 6 жыл бұрын
So midas becomes worth it after 16 minutes.. You forgot it also gives attack speed, enough attack speed to be worth 500 instant gold compared to mask of madness(which is a temporary buff, therefore it's worth a bit more than that) or 750 compared to gloves of haste. That means the item techically is 1.5 times less. So if you're an hero that needs attack speed and gold, Hand of midas might pay back in around 11 minutes. It does mean hand of midas does set you back with a 1400 gold disadvantage for most of it, but endgame(after like 40 mins), you're looking at a potential 2000 extra gold for an early 1400 gold disadvantage for a few minutes. And that's just exactly acting like it gives you only extra gold. IT gives you extra XP and instantly, and eliminating the big tanky creeps on a creep camp can, early on, speed up farm quite a bit. (where you'd take like 10 seconds killing it, you just one shot it and to boot get extra gold and XP) Overall, If you Can handle a small gold disadvantage and are planning to go late game, hand of midas is a good tool, but All those calculations ASSUME you always grab the gold the instant it's off cooldown.The problem is it could even lock you into going for farm when your team is about to get ganked on a lane where you can't grab a creep. But that's rare occasions probably (You could always quickly grab the creep midfight if you're being daring, may even push the lane the way you want since you can deny your own creeps with it)
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 6 жыл бұрын
Next day Icefrog releases 7.20 changes every number you just mentioned, making everything you just say wrong
@a465287913
@a465287913 6 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought that this was a TierZoo video
@Windowsprodukt
@Windowsprodukt 6 жыл бұрын
The component argument was actually a... pretty compelling reason to build Battlefury. I was pretty sceptical of the item until i saw the vid, thanks Eric.
@klawypl
@klawypl 6 жыл бұрын
Did you forgot about refresher on nature prophet? ;)
@AFreakingAxeCH
@AFreakingAxeCH 6 жыл бұрын
Idk but I feel like it's incomplete, could be great if Edje included a talon and some shield
@Luckydeath973
@Luckydeath973 6 жыл бұрын
I hate battlefury too, everybody hates you when you don't build it no matter how well or bad you're doing. It's all Battlefury's fault, everydamn time.
@kinnotagolino2825
@kinnotagolino2825 5 жыл бұрын
Really amazing video!
@massaosaito4084
@massaosaito4084 6 жыл бұрын
The desparation in your voice trying to explain how complex is the task ahead, hahahahaha I missed dude, I don't even play Dota 2 XD
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