THE ONTOLOGIC EVIL OF CONTENT CREATION - Episode 37 (9/20/24)

[@tmored]

It's incredible to me that Peeps' entire argument for the first story revolves around the argument that because the friends forgot to give the girl the keys, they deserve to be shaken down for money, when nowhere in the story does it mention that the friend asked for the keys. IMPLYING THAT THE FRIEND ALSO FORGOT THAT WAS AN OPTION. Like maybe if the friend had asked and everyone had said no, I'd be slightly more on Peeps' side, but its the fact that the friend also did not ask for the keys that completely destroys that argument to me.

[@rocapbg9518]

It's not just about the keys, they made no effort in helping her get another flight or getting a smaller room at the hotel or anything, they just left her there. I think it's wrong to be on anyone's side in that story, they all suck so much.

[@TheDocperian]

I feel like they were all stressed close to boarding a plane, they def should've thought of it but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe they were all just focused on the immediate issue of boarding a plane.

[@tmored]

@TheDocperian Oh I fully agree that all of them probably forgot because they were stressed out and this was a very sudden event. I just dislike that Peeps put all of the blame on the friends and declined to even consider that the friend who had to leave could have also thought to ask for the keys, but didn't probably because she was stressed out and worried.

[@zoboron]

Asked my husband who works for TSA about the first one and he said they weren't on a no fly because of the ticket. They had the pen confiscated and can just get on another flight once stuff was sorted. Airport Police showing them out means nothing. They could have just owned the mistake, got a new flight and been there a day late. Ticket most likely isn't even directly related to the airport itself -- they got ticketed for "illegal" weed, not being a bad flier. They can just go on a plane again. The onus is on the person to get themselves to the vacation spot. They made a mistake, they need to find a way there. If not, call the friends and ask to see if they can shrink the room to get some money back. Friends, at most, should consider covering the room because they didn't try to adjust room cost to get the friend some money back. Everything else is not their fault. Uber cost is also negligible over the cost of being at a vacation spot and eating/drinking for those X days. Also it falls under the "owning your mistake" part of the situation.

[@martinrios3546]

Yeah I also worked for the TSA and that stood out to me. I’m not even sure if she wasnt actually allowed on that plane; you’re allowed to leave once youve gone past security, and whenever people were walked out by police I never heard of them having their ticket blocked or something.

[@martinrios3546]

It is inSANE for the 1st girl to be mad at everyone for ‘ditching’ her when she didn’t even TRY to better the position she was in. Like Joseph said, she could attempt to rebook but she didn’t, even for a later date, and her also forgetting to get the keys is all on her.

[@deathofsushi]

Jordan zeroing in on the keys like a fucking Farfa viewer.

[@spectralphantom380]

"How dare you not think to throw me your car keys while I'm being hauled away by airport security?" -person who didn't think to take the drugs out of her bag before getting on a plane

[@SDREHXC]

Im almost positive that that group of friends where one friend missed the flight was going on a trip they could barely afford to begin with and the second an extra expense came up none of them could remotely afford it. Like 95% sure that was the scenario and the entire explanation. I don’t know how these three spent such an inordinate amount of time basically saying “how did no one put out more money to fix the problem”. Like gee, how curious, I wonder why someone might behave like that.

[@martinrios3546]

Yeah each person shelling out an extra $350 is roughly a 30% increase from what they originally planned for, it’s not an insignificant amount

[@thedom2753]

First post is literally just the guy on a bike poking a stick into the wheel then getting mad at someone else lmao

[@spartan4613]

Yeah Peeps was 100% dead wrong here

[@denniszimmermann5176]

Yes, but If your friend falls down and gets hurt, you would still help him up, wouldn't you?

[@spartan4613]

@@denniszimmermann5176 There's a difference between picking them up and paying for their entire hospital bill.

[@Leprosyyyy]

​@@denniszimmermann5176"Masta Wayne.... What do we do when we fall down? .....That's right, we tell our friends to pay us 1200 dollars"

[@ashikjaman1940]

I need Jordan to read out an Earth Machine combo in that tiktok voice

[@knightlancelot4003]

peeps is so wrong to the point that he needs to pay mbt/lvk next credit card bill as punishment

[@Rissper.]

The first girl asking for her money is an absolute jerk. The simple fact she paid for the trip before being stopped from boarding the plane implies she had already budgeted for it. Sure, she won't get her "money's worth," but that's on her. As Joseph pointed out, with a little more effort and initiative, she could have made the best of the situation that she was in and joined the group for the trip at a later date. It's her fault that she didn't put that effort in, and in case she needed any help with that, I'm sure the friends would have done what they could to help her with the rebooking or whatever. If she at least tried to figure something out and then they refused to help her, then maybe you could make an argument for them being assholes or bad friends, but as the situation stands, you cannot

[@trippersigs2248]

If you live in a place where weed is not legal recreationally you dont "accidentally" try to bring weed with you on a plane(especially on a vacation that youve been planning for some time). She did it on purpose, she took a gamble, lost, and now want people to pay for her fuck up

[@dlord96301]

I could not agree more she fucked around and found out. Now she's suffering the consequences of her actions

[@ab2aasd]

Remember when the US was forced to release the Merchant of Death because someone just had to be a pothead in Russia?

[@obiesenpai3869]

Yeah, Peep's position is insane to me. I have a little sister that intentionally self-sabotage's herself because she believes mom and dad will bail her out. So far it has worked, but once she becomes an adult next year and tries the same stuff in college, she is going to be in for a rude awakening.

[@thecomradewarda]

@@ab2aasdwhy are you bring that up

[@hasan7275]

THIS and i can’t believe they didn’t bring this up more as to what makes her the asshole fundamentally. if i had a friend that did that shit i’m not paying them back for sure lmao

[@cedricwong0]

Okay I do have to clarify, it actually is a Japanese thing, and in some other East Asian cultures as well. Admittedly it's also very old fashioned, but the idea of it being healthy/desirable/manly to have a big appetite is a thing I've seen both in my personal life and online with respect to those countries.

[@TheDocperian]

Can confirm as someone with Filipino friends who have the same issue.

[@jajordan2106]

huh... *having a flashback to every anime where the main character is show to be able to eat a ludicrous amount of food and there is a female character nearby that looks pleased*

[@weather1635]

I think they glance over the weed pen being intentional way too quickly. I think if she meant to intentionally take it but fucked up she is on the hook for that.

[@Ironpecker]

Peeps I'm not kidding when I think you could honestly make millions just doing your tiktok voice impression in like tiktok lives, like it's really really good

[@BBarbs]

Peeps somehow thinking weed girl's friends should take full responsibility and take on all consequences instead of the actual person that made the mistake is baffling. "They forgot to give her keys and made her get an uber." Yeah, the girl that should have been thinking about how to get home also forgot to ask for the keys, why should the people busy getting to their flight need to be MORE responsible in figuring out what the girl that messed up should do to get home, especially OP eho doesn't even own the car, in what world is she the one that needs to think of giving someone else's keys to the girl that messed up. Why should they be MORE responsible in figuring out how to get her on a new flight than the girl that messed up. Why should they have to fully refund their friend, resulting in them being on the hook for having to spend more money while the person that actually made the mistake suffers 0 financial loss because she now has all the money back. In this scenario the person that actually made the mistake loses nothing more than having to spend that money on a different trip while the friends get screwed out of money.

[@obiesenpai3869]

Also why should the friends give the weed-pen girl car keys when there is a good chance that she had smoked out of it? That's like giving someone who had drank enough beer to get tipsy car keys!

[@sanjitps]

I never realized Peeps was a Steven Universe villain

[@Kirinmon]

Peeps once again is insane. Also the girl who didnt get to go in the first story is an asshole for even ASKING all her friends to foot her bill too. Crazy.

[@thegoodtypeofrealism9254]

Jordan in the first story is the wrongest he's ever been it's wild

[@pokecole37]

yeah bro is super mad no one thought to toss them their keys without knowing fully what was going on or that they wouldn’t be able to board

[@martinrios3546]

Idk him saying the guy who didn’t ditch his friends for spontaneous sex was in the wrong was pretty bad too

[@ducky36F]

@@martinrios3546 he's right in both cases I honestly have no idea what ya'll are talking about. Have some empathy for a friend in a tough position ffs. Idk I guess it depends whos shoes you are putting yourself in but I am both paying my friend back and telling them to go have sex with their gf if it is me.

[@obiesenpai3869]

Bro was focusing on not giving the keys, but who would give their keys to someone who just got caught with a weed pen? That's like giving someone who was caught with an open can of beer in their bag your car keys.

[@dr.phillyjoel3289]

Peeps out here acting like its a nothing ask to let a friend drive your car. They should totally pay back for the uber but theres no way I'd let anyone drive my car without considering it carefully first.

[@NaldoNidoking]

First post might be the biggest Jordan L. Literally 0 situation like this where I ever ask my friends to pay me back or something. I also wouldn't be so careless to bring an illegal substance to the airport, but that's neither here nor there. Therefore, expecting your friends to give you any amount of money back is so entitled. Additionally, I've personally never flown anywhere, and I'd have no idea that we could work around it with rebooking or something, so I also wouldn't be mad if we didn't find a joint solution.

[@knessy6446]

Can't disagree with Jordan more on the first post. She kind of has no right to be mad at them. Yeah, super shitty her friends didn't help but if I was being stopped from boarding a plane on a huge Hawaii trip because of mistake I made, I would be scrambling to find some way to get my ass on a different plane, with or without their help. I also would not be seeking reimbursement for something that was also my fault. With that said if a friend said, "Hey, I need help recouping some of the loss", I also would help them. These people just suck.

[@peterusmc20]

@knessy6446 See, I don't see the "recouping the loss" point of view. The money was already spent, there was no additional cost incurred. What was lost out on was the holiday not the money. Like sure try to get what you can back and I think its the right thing to help out your friend as much as you can but this is not a sudden cost a friend has had to bear, the cost was already budgeted for. Maybe I'm just seeing the way money works differently from other people but to me if the other friends also didn't go because she wasn't there is 0 world where the friend asks for the money back. But in this situation everyone paid the same amount of money. Hence this cannot be about the amount of money it's about the fact they went and the friend left behind thinks its unfair they got to have fun and she didn't.

[@mayakashi7284]

Peeps take in the first story feels completely unbelievable tbh. Like why should anyone be financially responsible for someone else’s mistake? There are probably 100 different ways that you can solve this issue that don’t involve everyone in the friend group coming out of pocket to give her cash. No real friend would ask for someone to give them cash to fix a problem they themselves caused. It sometimes feels like Peeps is trying to come off as some superhero friend/husband in a lot of these stories and I feel like this one crossed the line.

[@PolarisDolaris95]

Yeah I got the same vibes here. Always idealistic/best case answer.

[@martinrios3546]

Been feeling like that since the sex with wife vs game with friends episode

[@obiesenpai3869]

I have a feeling that Peeps never had someone, whether that be a friend or family member, who had a self-sabotaging personality in his life. The weed-pen girl in the first post gives off major self-sabotage vibes to me. My little sister would do the exact same shit.

[@piemastera]

These last 2 episodes have been fire!

[@percivaldotburgers]

Gosh I had to pause the episode when Jordan busted out that perfect impression of the fucking female AI voice all the Tiktok ghouls use, that was so funny

[@lobsterbisque333]

Joseph always aims for the Daniel Position

[@ahmes004]

If he does a whole episode in that voice, I may just finally pay for the Patreon.

[@peterusmc20]

I think peeps position on the first one is insane. I'll start of by saying that blame isn't real, it's her own "fault" and so freaking what that argument is dumb and irrelevant to the situation at hand that's just an excuse not to care. Also I'm sure some people take a worse stance because she was breaking the law, screw the law it's made up she wasn't hurting anyone except herself. That being said, from my reading it doesn't sound like she was allowed to get another plane, she was given a court date, someone said "it's not like she was on a no flight list" I think she probably was until her court date. If she wasn't she makes no further attempt to join them and that's on her (iirc pronoun). You all acting like they vindictive left her but I don't see what option they had except all cancel their holiday and stay or go and if I was the one left behind I'd want my friends to go and have fun. Having been in this situation once that ended up resolving itself I wanted people to go on and it was decided that 2 would stay with me and the other 3 would go on but that was a medical emergency in another country which I think is far far more reason to stay. I would want to refund my friend and I would likely as mentioned try to get a much back from places we booked at ahead of time for them but there seemed no effort made on this front by the one left behind either instead the blame being laid at the feet of the friends, immediately "angry texts" when they landed from their flight. As the friends your friend befalls an unfortunate accident you had no part in that prevents them coming with you but they are safe at home and you have a holiday you have clearly spent a large amount of your budget on, so clearly something greatly looked forward to, probably something they couldn't afford to do every year or even every few, it's insane to think they wouldn't still go and the friend seems angry about that, she almost certainly wasn't asking for a refund then. She seems angry they still went. She then is asking for her money back and sure I would want to give my friends whatever they wanted, if they asked for money I would give it to them as much as was in my ability because I trust they wouldn't ask if it weren't important. That being said, as much as is in my ability. They clearly say in the post that they could pay her but that she is already in debt and some financial difficulty and not a great place to do so. It seems like the same goes for the other friends as well. From what is said for any one of the others it would be beyond their ability to pay, to pay in entirety for a sudden cost incurred by a friend. The better analogy I see is that this is a friends car has broken down so they couldn't drive to join the rest of you and so they want the rest of you to pay for the car's repair. If my friend needed that money and I could help I would but there's no indication given that the friend needs the money more than the rest of them, in fact she had budgeted for it already because she was going to go on the holiday!! So what she wants is insane frankly, it sucks for her and I would want to make it up to her but i think its insane that she demands a refund. the ideal outcome is that you would try to find the best possible outcome for the whole group and to me, here, that was the others enjoy their possibly once in a lifetime vacation marred by an absence. How could the ones who went possibly be responsible for her lost flight costs, the logic seems purely borne from her spite for her friends that peeps seems to be buying into. If it was booked per bed like a hostel that could be cancellable and should have been, if they had more space in a air b&b or had a surf instructor split between 5 rather than 6 etc those things make perfect sense to be paid back but I still don't think there is a responsibility for the friends to do so just that it would be right to. Travel insurance should have covered some of this but maybe wouldn't due to criminality being the reason which sucks. On the side point of the car keys peeps hyper focuses on she literally says they should have gave her the keys, showing more empathy for her friend than seems shown the other way in the story, but I think would be entirely normal not to come to mind in what was probably a stressful time sensitive situation, it's not like they were asked for the keys and said no, even the one left behind didn't realise she'd need them till they got outside it seems! I'd come down so incredibly hard the other way from the possibly biased presentation we got in the post.

[@peterusmc20]

Okay, this post was long and rambling and bad and missed the point a little, but I can simplify it down to the only factors that matter: 1 some people got to go on holiday, 2 some people had to pay, 3 people's ability to pay. To determine what affects who you think should pay, I pose 4 possible outcomes. This example, where all but X goes but all pay. Hypothetical 1, everyone gets to go, everyone pays. Obviously X doesn't deserve refund. Hypothetical 2, everyone decides to stay with X, everyone pays. Obviously X doesn't deserve a refund. Hypothetical 3, only X was planning to go, X pays and doesn't get to go. Obviously doesn't deserve a refund. What this says to me is that how much was paid is not a factor here only that her friends went without her. Any situation where her friends weren't having fun and she got stopped at the airport then her friends wouldn't be liable. Unless the friends having fun without her means they should pay her back I don't think there is an argument for them being responsible to do so. If their friend needs money then as friends they should help. No indication is given that X is in worse financial situation than the others in fact the opposite, also if she went on the holiday she wouldn't "need" the money back which says to me she has no more need of it than the others. Yes maybe more should have been done if possible to cancel bookings or book a separate flight but that's pure speculation and I think primarily should have been up to X and there didn't seem to be an attempt. Tldr: the only reason for a refund is jealousy they had a good time without her or had more "space" etc on the holiday to what degree that applies.

[@CpnCrunchwrap]

My favorite time of the week is right now

[@dannycristen7505]

Gotta be against Jordan on the first one. When you think about it, i feel like she mightve not been allowed to go on another plane bacause that would be anyone's second plan. Also how do you accidentally bring a weed pen in a state where its illegal? She just causing trouble for the love of the game

[@trikovi1628]

I thought the title was about the fucking Mr beast shit, so when the third story came up it hit me like a fucking truck

[@zeneck7387]

Clearly NTA for the first one. She is mad because she made a mistake and is projecting her anger on her friend. That friend is the asshole. She is an adult, her friends aren't responsible for her actions. I'm not saying poster shouldn't pay her back, but if she doesn't want to it's fine and her friend shouldn't get mad about it.

[@peterusmc20]

@zeneck7387 even if it wasn't her mistake and it was completely out of her control, she had budgeted for the holiday and such and it fell through which is terrible and I'd want to help out a friend however I could in that situation but the reason she wants paid is solely because the friends went. If they all hadn't went, they all would have paid the same amount as they did here but the friend wouldn't be asking for the money back. The reason she wants the money back is that she feels slighted that her friends went. If it had been anything but a group holiday the concept that her friends would be obliged to help her with an unexpected but (fundamentally because the holiday was) affordable cost they didnt have a part in would be insane.

[@gamekid537]

the first story reminds me of that one tiktok of the group of guys letting their one friend (enthusiastically) manage their entire trip and the group for them even to the point of passing out their passports only when absolutely necessary and the friend group here is like the absolute opposite of that guy where one thing went wrong and they were all as useless as possible

[@Hitoridoodles]

That TikTok voice bit had me in tears

[@KokoPowdery]

I'm sorry I can't get over the car keys. Idk about how exactly this works in the US but like, at least where I live it can be pretty problematic to let someone who's not registered with your insurance for your car, it's not necessarily a nothing deal

[@gabedurno6780]

Reguardless of the argument in the first one, you get told like 18 times not to have vapes or litihium batteries. Shes an asshole for not checking her luggage for any of that anyways.

[@TheDocperian]

The first story IMO gets bogged down by how much fanfic we can write, similar to the one a few weeks back about kicking out the fiancé. We don't even know the age/maturity of the poster, what did the third friend do ("Me and three friends" and then only mentions Matt), what was their relationship (Matt is the posters BF? Sara's? A brother? Was it two couples?), the person talks about her early twenties so are they 35 with a full time job or 26 fresh out of school? I think I do land with Joseph, but there's any number of things that make this better or worse and it's hard to not let your imagination run off with pushing a bias.

[@jellewijckmans4836]

On the first post it is pretty weird that nobody seems to understand they like planes fly on a schedule and can be missed. Like sure ideally they would have in that moment remembered to give her those keys but getting her bad searched and TSA getting involved probably already delayed them so they were probably close to missing that flight. Also you might not be allowed to fly while you have an active court date. Being friends does not mean compensating them when they end up being morons and they lose money they could afford to lose because she planned on losing it going on the trip. If you got refunds on anything because she was not there she deserves that money but beyond that this is called a learning oppertunity.

[@clayxros576]

So fun fact with no 3: That influencer violated the law. Specifically HIPPA. You straight up cant record in an office without permission, regardless if its your kid or not. That guy could legit get in huge legal trouble if they didnt squash that. And beyond that...candid recording of a dude minding his business? NO. Very NTA. She should never have posted that, and OP is both morally and legally correct for pulling a mass-report. A valid mass-report, might i add.

[@mrruniccross1226]

Said this on the patreon but I'll say it here. On the first one they should probably at least pay back their portion on the Airbnb and the rental car that they weren't able to use but still paid for.

[@peterusmc20]

@mrruniccross1226 yeah I think its reasonable where costs were paid for things to be split between 6 that were then split between 5 so the 5 got that extra use or space etc, even where they maybe wouldn't have paid for it otherwise, I definitely would advocate for as one of the holiday goers, I'd say that was fair because otherwise the one who didn't get to go is subsidising our extra space. I don't think that goes for what I assume is the majority of the costs in fixed things like flights though.

[@reddevilyi]

I think I'd agree with this more if it was a family emergency or getting sick and not them being an idiot and trying to sneak weed on to the plane lol

[@mrruniccross1226]

@@reddevilyi that's fair, but I think it would at least be the right thing to do. Regardless of the dickishness that was them basically getting to use their money for a discount. I think everyone involved sucks.

[@martinrios3546]

I do agree because I myself would want to refund a portion (not the entire amount), but considering she got herself kicked from the flight and she didn’t make any attempt to still go on the trip (from what it sounds), whether or not you give her money is up to you, and neither decision should be seen as a AH move

[@ErosIRL]

In the first story, their friend was trying to avoid liability by saying they forgot. They packed the bag for a trip, and definitely had it in the car on the way there and likely used it and forgot to take it out or didn’t intend to at all. Their friends are enjoying the same trip regardless of the amount of people who are going, so why should they be held liable for their friends’ actions? I’m only on that person’s side if everyone was using the pen, they asked that friend to bring it and try to sneak it on, and it cost them the trip. If it’s something they just use for personal use, it isn’t a cringey redditor thing to say “you don’t owe them anything.” You legitimately are being asked to help your friend recover from a costly fuck up, which would be *kind* of you to help resolve (I would at least hold the friend 1/4 responsible of the recouped funds) but it isn’t something you should feel on the hook for at all

[@Heroism4499]

In a past life Jordan was left at the airport by his "friends" and had to walk home destitute and hes just projecting

[@homuraakemi3287]

Everyone else is pointing this out but the amount of checks they write (no pun intended) for the girl in the first story is mind boggling? Joseph even acknowledges it but they still proceed to keep steelmanning the weed girl as if she just had things 'happen' to her rather than being the source of the issue.

[@obiesenpai3869]

Peeps is so convinced that her bringing the weed pen was indeed an accident and not considering the fact that she probably did it intentionally.

[@v3vic3]

post 2 is just the trans experience

[@obiesenpai3869]

I have a little sister that would "accidently" bring things like vapes or alcohol to family trips while she was just a teenager just to create extra drama and self-sabotage herself. TSA would always find these things in her bag and my parents would have to be on the hook for these kinds of things. The woman who "accidently" brought the weed gives off the same kinds of vibes. If you fuck up and self-sabotage yourself, you are responsible for figuring things out yourself. When you have someone, a family memeber or a friend, that self-sabotages themselves, you must not give them an out. You have to have them learn from their consequences, you have to let them find out, you have to let them learn that doing stupid shit will get you in trouble and it is your job to get out of trouble.

[@seralyna_]

this is like pretty absurd projection onto this random lady

[@DCrswims]

Never commented on these before but for that first one Peeps seriously? The friend could have tried to get refunds for all her stuff but instead is going to her friends instead? That's crazy

[@VihnNem]

It's time to introduce a "golden buzzer" style once per season override that everyone gets. Except its "Extrajudicial killing"

[@Gamemaster13000]

"Old Minecraft KZbinr" Put some respect in The Diamond Minecart's name!

[@toraheart7206]

You know the last post is gonna be peak when 90% of the episode run time is spent on two posts

[@percivaldotburgers]

Shout outs to the patron saint of PC gaming, Gabe Newell, for ratioing Logan Paul on Twitter over his dumb response

[@TheFoxClaws]

That was for sure a parody account. Gabe never confirmed any social media account. If you want to contact him it’s only through email

[@percivaldotburgers]

@@TheFoxClaws I really wanted to believe

[@fameshark]

1st story - This reminds me of the “shopping cart litmus test”, where people put the shopping cart back not because it’s illegal to leave it out, but it’s the right thing to do. Is the friend not the asshole for not wanting to pay? Absolutely, it wasnt her expenses, she didnt do the action that caused her to miss the flight, and it wasnt on her budget to do so. But, I feel like a good friend would have empathy in this situation, and at least chip in, because it sucks to be on the receiving end of that. I don’t think it’s something the person that missed the flight should ask for - like, requesting compensation to the group is not the right thing to do here imo - but I think it would’ve been a thoughtful gesture by the friends to have pitched in a portion or host a little event for the person that missed out WITHOUT the person asking for it. She’s justified in her position but I just think it would be nice to look out for one another if you’re close enough to even book a holiday with them in the first place. That being said, I do agree that the friend should’ve tried to make the second flight work, if it was less expensive than the cost you’d lose by not going (and even if it was more expensive, it’s a vacation, go enjoy yourself).

[@peterusmc20]

@idalwave I agree somewhat, I'd want to help a friend however I could if it was in my ability to do so. But this isnt you helping a friend out who needs the money urgently for medical expenses or a visa or a car repair, the consideration here is that she didn't get a holiday that she had otherwise budgetted for and due to whatever circumstances didn't get to go. I think that the friends went is largely irrelevant, I think that it happened at the airport and not a week before is irrelevant and I think who's fault it is irrelevant. A freak accident (getting caught) meant she couldn't get to go on a holiday and because she felt felt entitled to it and is jealous of her friends she wants them, who are not in a great place financially anyway, to pay her for how jealous and persecuted feels about not going. Like as a friend I'd do anything I could to help her get there another route or get a refund etc but the only reason to pay her back the flights and such is to make her feel less resentful that she didn't get to go which I don't even think it will solve.

[@fameshark]

@@peterusmc20 I really like your point on the solo trip. Wow. That’s really good framing. It perfectly illustrates why the friends don’t owe anything. I think the friends chipping it would be a nice gesture for sure, but it shouldnt be expected or asked for. Thank you for the comment.

[@jellewijckmans4836]

You can argue that they had some level of obligation when it comes to figuring out if there were things that could be refunded now she wasn't there so they can give her that money. That is it. Beyond that point you can in no way shape or form expect them to use their own money to pay you back for a trip that you missed out on because of your own stupidity.

[@lemlem35]

That last one was insane

[@pokecole37]

Jordan acting like they should’ve chased down their friend who got kicked out and let her use their car. She had a fucking phone she could’ve asked. But no.

[@hatster401]

peeps is insane

[@hatster401]

its money dawg, you cant just throw that shit around because you want to be nice to your friend

[@pokecole37]

peeps is so consistently wrong on this show it’s incredible

[@Malidala]

Did y'all miss the Mr. Beast 9/11 thing?

[@conorprochaska4728]

don't need a passport to get to hawaii, your good bro

[@Greg501-]

*if you're an American

[@conorprochaska4728]

@@Greg501- was referring to Danny but yeah

[@Pyres_Archon]

Jordan is a Griffith truther confirmed

[@samlee5774]

I have to watch episodes on KZbin so the comments can reassure me I'm not crazy for disagreeing with these jokers

[@SpencerCJ]

The first one really is the girls fault, she was dumb enough to bring drugs onto a plane (100% not real). Peeps is being very vindictive sadly. Anyone who makes a mistake and insist that their friends fix that mistake for you to the tune of hundreds of $ with 0 attempt to fix it themselves is an asshole and is no doubt very entitled. Yes the group should have maybe tried to help her but it all of this happened at security then there was no going back at that point, uber exists its not like she needed to walk home

[@BeanMagoon]

1. Correct (Note: not by much at all; the comments here have been incredibly unfair to Jordan. 2. Correct 3. Correct Bottle Night mentioned: 6 episodes (one on patreon) KILLS: 5 (one on Patreon - Kill Button merch when?) see ya next time :)

[@LordParaDax]

When this started I was so pro peeps and now I just hate him more and more each week. That being said he is so necessary for the show but in response if he’s mad they “forgot the car keys” then why is it fine the friend “forgot” the pen

[@chrishoad256]

Jordan’s take on the first post is wild, people make mistake, and actions have consequences; sure, pay for the Uber, but there is nothing on those friends to pay back the trip money. Jordan coming off as forced virtuous in this, a little distasteful really

[@justinwade34]

who is becky and why is she dj’ing

[@MrGshinobi]

1. poster is not an asshole, sometimes things are out of people's control like your friend bringing weed to an airport in a state where weed is illegal, and you're not expected to be able to solve everyone's problems all the time, and not going to the trip that everyone has already paid for or paying for the friend's trip are not good solutions imo specially if you're going to go deeper into credit card debt for that, just go to the trip you paid for and enjoy it, that being said it probably would have helped to have tried to solve the friend's issue in any way, not helping at all makes you a bad friend but not an asshole 2. poster is an asshole for telling his wife she is wasting food by cooking slightly too much for his taste, he can say literally anything else and it would have been better, just save the leftover food and that's it, that's just not how you handle arguments with your SO, tho the wife is also an asshole for not respecting the husband's diet, just talk it out, don't lash to each other 3. 47:30 "i don't use social media aside from reddit" actual crazy person behaviour poster is not an asshole, they're right, their friend is a weird freak and they need to stop being their friend inmediately, tiktok brain is real and that june girl has a bad case of it

[@spectralphantom380]

2. He literally is saying this in response to her accusing him of wasting the food, after he had repeatedly tried to talk it out. She has refused to work together on this in any way and blames him.

[@peterusmc20]

@spectralphantom380 I was raised to be like this where I still clean my plate to the last grain of rice etc as my parents taught me it was sinful to waste food. But since I've been making my own food my mindset has changed to being unnecessary food or food not used and thrown out is equally as wasted both of which my parents do regularly and the strange idea of it being wasteful not to eat it all but it's fine to buy more than is needed and throw it out really annoys me. I think It does need called out because it is genuinely wasteful. Ideally in a calm constructive way but that's not always easy or works.

[@spectralphantom380]

@@peterusmc20 I completely agree. Food waste is a huge problem, but forcing yourself to eat more than you need does nothing to solve it. If you're not enjoying it, it's already wasted.

[@mileserwin]

Yalls take on story 1 pisses me off. This girl brought illegal drugs to the airport and got cought. He name will be flagged by TSA. She will not be able to fly until at least the case is over. Should they have covered the Uber? Sure. Do they owe her anything else? Fuck no. She fucked up, bad. You live you learn man. And I understand the "sympathy" angle of good friends. But this level of carelessness has consequences. Poster don't owe her shit.

[@clayxros576]

Yall realize having a court date is a soft no-fly, right? Like yeah, youre not in chains and can go, but youre probably gonna have an arrest warrant when you get back. Especially if the court date falls during the trip. And beyond that, you dont just forget you have a currently illegal item on your person. If youre going into an AIRPORT. And on top of that, OP mentioned budget a few times. Its likely they barely afforded the trip as is, and this was a treat. I agree they should have tried helping to sone extent, but ditching the entire trip because a friend was caught with CONTRABAND is a bit of an ask. Generally id be all for some form of solidarity, but the details of this post add up to the friend being complacent and now wants to be refunded using guilt tripping.

[@martinrios3546]

Source for the soft no-fly? Because as far as I know that’s only if you specifically have a restriction preventing you from traveling, which seems excessive for a weed pen (but somewhat reasonable considering she got stopped at the airport I guess?)

[@clayxros576]

​@martinrios3546 So we might be working on different definitions. A "soft" restriction means that, technically, you can ignore it. Like a soft loss in Monopoly occurs when all properties are bought, you have none, but you have money. Technically you're in the game, but realistically you're already out. A soft no-fly is similar. She was handed a court date and had her pen confiscated. While she can technically go on another flight, it's quite likely if she misses that court date (which could land during the trip), she's getting arrested. Plus she was dragged out of the airport, and headed to Hawaii. Getting a last-minute ticket there on that or another airline would be either expensive or near impossible. She was technically allowed to still go, but realistically, she was grounded.

[@nichalasfink7952]

Am I the only one who thinks the reddit stories are the least entertaining part of the videos?

[@JackOfAllGames164]

shoutout youtube jesus dan the diamond minecart

[@mimeco2]

frust

[@alecharris423]

😂😂😂👌👌👌on god bro frust

[@Xanonix5643]

frust 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@ashikjaman1940]

Frast

[@a.r.4822]

First story is so fake jeessuus Who is Bratt? Who makes such a fuzz about a pen fr?

[@TheWanderingLPer]

Why did the first OP go on an expensive vacation when they were in such credit card debt that they can't afford extra spending...? Like, I understand this person probably NOW has disposable income and this wasn't breaking their bank, and I'm not saying they should have had to repay their friend necessarily, but I think there's just an odd discrepancy between "I can spend 800 dollars on this vacation, but I can't spend 350 more to repay someone because I have credit card debt," like did this vacation stretch the very limit of their discretionary spending? I guess I don't want to judge how a person chooses to spend their money, maybe the vacation was important to them and their friends, and they were willing to put a lot of their money down on it, but it feels a little irresponsible in this context. I guess whether or not it's responsible doesn't have much to do with the ethics of the situation, though.

[@owendawg1]

Really can't believe where you fell on post 1. Her friend basically subsidized all of their vacations. They ABSOLUTELY owe her some money back. if you can't pay it all back, then instead of coming to reddit to say "ermmmm should I pay my friend back??" she should say "Hey I can't pay it all but I'll chip in some to help you out." But she doesn't. She goes to reddit to whine about how her friend is upset with them for doing nothing to help them out, and doesn't even try to compromise at all. The fact that you all acknowledged that the OP should've helped their friend, but didn't, and then you still say they're not the asshole? Just doesn't make sense man.

[@spectralphantom380]

She subsidized nothing. Everyone else payed the same amount for their trip that they would have either way.

[@peterusmc20]

@owendawg1 it's not like the rest of them got a fraction of her on the flight, sure maybe more space in an air b&b if it was that kinda place and not like a hotel or whatever but their holiday was no cheaper than if the other girl came along? It also doubt they had more fun because their friend got left behind and now the same amount of fun gets shared out among who's left. I think it would be the right thing to do to help her recoup the costs that you can, in particular try to cancel bookings and such or even better help to organise another route there but the subsidising your holiday angle really doesn't make sense to me when it cost them the same amount either way for the same holiday minus a friend.

[@ducky36F]

38:40 he said no to a second karrage!?!? Ahole. (No he’s not really the ahole, it is super frustrating trying to do something to feel good about yourself that hurts no one else and people just decide to be difficult about it)

[@Patziken]

1st one should've paid for the Uber as a group, but otherwise, NTA. The group shouldn't be on the hook because she brought along an illegal item to the place-where-they-check-your-stuff-for-illegal-items zone. Joseph is also totally wrong about getting another flight. The left behind girl was given a court date for her weed pen, so she's not allowed to fly anywhere until that date Edit: the entire argument in favor of OP being the asshole is because the group went on the trip without trying to circumvent the no-fly status an outstanding court date brings

[@Zeroyue622]

22:55, I won't sympathy with her. the reason of she not get on the plane is not "things happened". it is she own something illegal in the state. It would be different if she is sick or something happened and can't go. This is she have something that she should NEVER own. At max I will split her portion of hotel, but will never anything about the plane.

[@yomireal7570]

You're a big dummy

[@peterusmc20]

Hmm I guess that's true. everything that's illegal is the epitome of evil and anything that you can get away with legally must be good.

[@nightmarebananaful]

Alright chill out man, it's a weed pen