THE OPEN SPECIAL TRUMP TURNBERRY PART 6

THE OPEN SPECIAL TRUMP TURNBERRY PART 6
Trump Turnberry, The Open Special with Mark Crossfield AskGolfGuru, Defending Open Champion Coach Lockey, Dan Hendriksen PGA Professionals and YGT's Rory. This match will determines The 2018 Champion Golfer Of The Year. Watch as the guys take on this stunning golf course in Scotland. Play your best golf with Mark Crossfield's easy to follow and understand golf videos.
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[@GeoffD77]

Mark: "I'm happy to be wrong". Now THAT'S a contradiction in golf! ;)

[@MarkCrossfield]

Haha 😂

[@LesPaulBJJ]

Matt's correct. With lateral water hazards (red) all three drop options are available. With yellow stakes only stroke and distance and drop in line are available. Two club lengths no nearer the hole is only available with red stake hazards.

[@golferguy985]

This basically proves to me that having yellow and red is dumb. how about we make it an orange stake and let both stake rules apply.

[@gee2478]

Correct. It was frustrating listening to Mark be so sure of himself and be wrong.

[@tjriecke]

Correct

[@calvesely7409]

The bagpipes playing in the distance are pretty fricken cool...

[@jasonsuter13]

Ohh...red stakes...yellow stakes...miss takes....I like a blue steak...peppercorn sauce ooowww yes please....😆

[@BobbyKewley]

The course, the weather, the piper - this is absolute golf heaven!! 🙂

[@michaeltoch8313]

watching The Open, hoping for a playoff..didn't happen..then this loveliness pops up! Yes Please!

[@martynlaw9606]

Well done Rory,dont ever be afraid to ask about rulings,was once told by someone whios played golf a lot longer than I have that the rules are there to help you.Great looking course.

[@killacamfoo]

Can't get enough of that course. Gorgeous. I need to get over there.

[@tonywestwell]

Great series this one, loved the course, and the golf, well played Rory, I think that is the best you have played on camera. Well done.

[@martint8017]

Well done Rory!

[@NoVaCharlie]

I enjoy dan’s commentary.

[@clausskovdal7964]

Great venue and great entertainment. With regards to the rule discussion, Mark is right if 2019 rules applies with knee drop and all.

[@jensbrandin805]

How about a Ray vs Molinari playoff to see who's the real champion?

[@barry1972-b3i]

Rory definitely found is course.Well played.!

[@yankeegolf476]

Really nice seeing Rory play good golf. I've been wanting to see him think through his shots a little more, dial it back a bit and be conservative if needed. Well done!

[@krusbaer11]

Good discussion about where you can drop, but to be honest it's quite a basic rule that every golfer should know. With yellow stakes you always have to drop behind the water hazard (if you drop in the flag line). I think Coach knew this but he got unsure because Dan and Mark sounded so confident about where you could drop.

[@MarkCrossfield]

That’s why we chatted.

[@MarkCrossfield]

Yellow is clear it was the falling in from the other side that made me ask the question.

[@krusbaer11]

Mark Crossfield okey, I got that. As I said good discussion, no hard feelings 😃. You can't drop within 2 club lengths (only red stakes) or in the hazard, so you have only two options and that is to go on the other side or use stroke and distance. To be clear, the only difference it makes when the ball falls in from the other side is that you have to drop in a straight line from where the ball last crossed the hazard (in this case, that point is on the side near green).

[@johnacorr9658]

krusbaer11 There is often so much confusion with this rule but the simplest thing is to mark the point where the ball crossed into the hazard and that point must stay between you and the hole.

[@krusbaer11]

John A Corr yeah, I've understood that it's confusing for alot of players. As coach said, a picture of where you can drop explains it well. Dropping on the other side 2 club lengths with red stakes isn't that easy to explain in words.

[@geoffreyobrien6381]

Great to see Ray back and playing well. Take it to them!

[@davidevans6776]

What a fantastic course and great weather. (I played it 35 years ago as a 14 year old for a fiver with my dad, great memories)

[@MrWilliamShakesphere]

PROPERLY EPIC golf course. Easily, top 3 that the Crossfield Crew have played...maybe tops.

[@kurtvonsavoye5851]

Great job Rory! Wooden man swing thought seems to be helping tame the animal!

[@joeperez3520]

You CANNOT drop it ON the hazard line because the point of entry must be kept BETWEEN the hole and where you drop. Plus, the "line" is considered IN THE HAZARD, and you can't drop a ball inside the margins of a hazard!

[@TikiTokiFooty]

Ray, you played well bud, genuinely nice to hear the guys be sincere when you struck it well, some great golf mate

[@davidmatthews1514]

Well done Ray, another great vlog series.

[@MarkRitterman]

An additional option available only for a ball in a lateral water hazard is to drop the ball within two club-lengths of the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the lateral water hazard or a point equidistant from the hole on the opposite margin of the hazard from where the ball last crossed into the hazard. However, it may not be dropped nearer the hole. If the player can drop the ball meeting the conditions of this last option, it may be dropped on the putting green side of the water hazard.

[@jacobchamblee819]

Well done Rory open champion! Great to see him have a good round!

[@frob24]

Well done Rory! Another fun video. Loved the drop conversation and glad it was resolved nicely in the comments section.

[@21greg7]

Wooden man #7 That’s a win. Congratulations Ray.

[@mattthomas1442]

I think even most pro's are likely to make atleast 1 bogey if they played 36 holes at a local municipal course. Molinari did that on arguably the toughest course in the world, under the most immense pressure in the biggest tourney of the year and playing with Tiger Woods.(so you have to deal with so much more people in the gallery) Just an unreal performance.

[@WSOR6604]

Tiger Combs I beg to differ. Happy Gilmore accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago.

[@monehselik6185]

Giebs n Stuff well moron good for Happy GilmOHMYGAAAHD!

[@riancreamer6904]

No need for that! Do you eat pieces of shit for breakfast or something?

[@jkgjr8219]

Bag pipes should always be playing in the background at EVERY course. The quality of golf would def go up a few notches!

[@colinwoodgate7297]

Player in town. Great win Rory. Watch the sponsors queue up now mate.

[@richardkidd2239]

Been struggling to sleep recently - Will put 11:00 - 15:00 on a loop, that should help ;)

[@scottsmith8546]

If it's yellow, you must go on the opposite side of the hole over any water hazard. If it's red, you can drop closest to point where it crosses nearest point of relief no closer to hole.

[@ianhenderson713]

Got to applause Rory for the improvement well done !!!

[@clemfisher5727]

Rule 26-1 Ball Rolling Back into Water Hazard Q. My ball landed on the putting green side of a pond in front of the green, but rolled back into the pond. Where do I drop a ball to play my next stroke? A. The answer depends on the type of hazard the ball rolled into. Under penalty of one stroke, if the ball entered into a water hazard, (yellow stakes and/or lines) or a lateral water hazard (red stakes and/or lines), the player may play a ball from as near as possible to where the original was last played (Rule 26-1a), or drop a ball behind the hazard keeping the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard between himself and the hole (Rule 26-1b). Under this option, the player must drop the ball behind the water hazard (see Decision 26-1/1.5). An additional option available only for a ball in a lateral water hazard is to drop the ball within two club-lengths of the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the lateral water hazard or a point equidistant from the hole on the opposite margin of the hazard from where the ball last crossed into the hazard. However, it may not be dropped nearer the hole. If the player can drop the ball meeting the conditions of this last option, it may be dropped on the putting green side of the water hazard. Decision 26-1/15 illustrates the options under this Rule.

[@riancreamer6904]

Well done Ray - good to see :)

[@ianlamb1677]

Ok - i’ve caught up now on these Open Special vlogs! 🤣. Top-Rory-Tastic 👍🏻 and enjoyable Turnberry posts (not the yellow ones). Nice one! 🙃

[@TRW072]

that was excellent Rory.

[@stephenflood4526]

That's the best I've seen Rory play,👍

[@royarnold5433]

Well played Ray!

[@mitchmorris8973]

Nice work Ray, champion of the year

[@sprcoop61]

Ray playing some consistent proper golf! Well done! Soon to be Ray #6 or lower.

[@seanmullins5982]

Lockey Army!!!!

[@jmhansen10]

Thought u guys played 2019 rules? I think it would be considered a ‘penalty area’ and he can Gammie-knee drop at the point it entered the hazard.

[@jjd9990]

Awesome Ray

[@janaGolfer]

In fact Rory was not allowed to drop on the other side, since it was yellow stakes. With yellow stakes you have to drop at the point of entry, never the other side. www.randa.org/RulesEquipment/Rules/QuickGuide/Relief-Situations-and-Procedures/Water-Hazards

[@thomasross1285]

Yellow water Hazard, Red Lateral hazard. Yellow, drop between point of entry & hole as far back as you want. You can also play from where the last ball was played. Similar to lost ball.

[@djdavetheturntableslave3075]

Never mind Francesco Congratulations Raymondo!

[@danmaxton3409]

#raymondochampiongolferoftheyear never in doubt #woodemanthewayforward

[@drake1411]

Raymondo is THE Open Champion 🍾

[@davidlum8313]

Yellow stakes does not have 2 club length rule. That's for red water hazard stakes.

[@S.forbes]

Well done Raymond, well done 👏🏾👏🏾

[@dalepenn5190]

Rory for the win

[@volans25]

Sorry Mark you are wrong on the rules. With stakes and in absence of a line, the stakes define the water hazard. Easy enough to look up on the R&A website. It doesn't matter if they mowed the area down or not. If the mowed are is behind the stakes it's in the hazard.

[@stevelovegrove9213]

So did you check the ruling?? I thought a yellow hazard had to be successfully navigated, so if it rolls back you still have to go the other side of it and try again under penalty....I could be wrong tho...I usually am :)

[@geoffwinn3884]

Rory carried get up Dan all the way imo. Great vlog as usual guys. Great bants and love the debate on the yellow stake rule. Regardless of the R&A rules guys you must understand that Mark is always right....it’s his show!

[@MarkCrossfield]

Rory was playing so much better. He was also correct with the drop. 👍

[@leoncrisp7141]

Great stuff as always!! Well played Ray!! Good golf

[@robbiles]

The words 'Ray', 'winner' and 'Champion' all in the one sentence. I could get use to that. #raysdisciples #7

[@michaelmorrison009]

I really like seeing Rory play well. Makes for a better video. Cheers Bruh!

[@MarkCrossfield]

So do we.

[@wedge1er306]

RAY!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@svenhallauer3229]

In regards to the rules question on hole #16 I think that Mark got it wrong. Rule 26-1 states that regular water hazards (aka Yellow Stakes) only offers the players two options: a) stroke & distance, or b) drop behind the hazard inline with the flag as far back as the player likes. Only lateral water hazards (aka Red Stakes) offers two additional options: c) drop within 2 club lengths, no near the hole from the point of entry, and d) drop on the opposite site of the hazard from where the ball entered no near the hole.

[@MarkCrossfield]

Defo. Ray was right.

[@svenhallauer3229]

I ran into this (hitting the green then spinning the ball off it and rolling into the lake) once in a tournament, ever since I regard the Yellow hazard stakes as evil and make sure I hit it past the pin every time.

[@timcline1912]

CONGRATULATIONS RORY!!

[@keithmancinelli3170]

Well done Ray Mondo! The wooden man is triumphant!

[@ahmadhanifah617]

Can I ask who’s playing the bagpipe in the background? Anyway congratulations to F.Molinari on winning the 147th Open...and happy to see Tiger back in the hunt even though it was for a short while....

[@davidleydic7658]

Good to see rory playing well

[@mikewarmbold3820]

If that's yellow, coach is right. Think about 12 at Augusta

[@garrettdavis3632]

And the champion golfer of the year is Raymondo molinaRay

[@ternoyalexis]

quite topical today consider yesterday result ;)

[@SatsumaBomb]

I still reckon a video, at Rory’s home course on a medal would show a lot of truths to the skeptics #7

[@oliverbradbury6241]

Go head the boys!!

[@harryhill3830]

Love the rules chat boys, keep it up 😂😂

[@jonathancaldwell8897]

Such a snarky attitude towards Dan all through this course vlog. Don't know how he put's up with it.

[@robjames5620]

Was thinking the same thing. Credit to Dan, he found a way to cope with it in a mature way.

[@josephgreenberg2063]

i’m shocked that pros don’t know most basic of rules. Coach is right. Only yellow stakes option is line of sight no closer to hole, meaning other side of a yellow hazard line (or line between stakes). Even more shocked that USGA/R&A didn’t simplify 2019 rules to eliminate difference between kind of hazards (and make out of bounds same option as hazard)

[@joeperez3520]

Two club length rule applies only to RED stakes. And, of course, this is ONLY an conversation. 🤣 The folks I play with play foot-loose-and-fancy-free with rules like this all the time. Yellow stakes should probably be abolished, and they should ALL be red. #SimplifyTheGoddamRules

[@mortenlothe6893]

Smart solution m8 with only red stakes. Someone please in the RuleElite watching this channel, do something about it. Too many hobbygolfers who even have played for years struggle with all the differant drop (rules) possibilities. red stakes = drop 2 clublenghts on either side of hazard no closer to the flag. Yellow stakes = paint them red;)

[@briansharp928]

Great idea. It’s one of those rules that everyone should know but not many do. Simplify the rules make golf more fun and less confusing. 👍🏼

[@1418golf]

Will be changed next year

[@timothycharter5363]

What a great vlog from an amazing place. If you could play any other open course what would you all choose bruh

[@scothardie7487]

Coach I don’t play in enough tournaments!! But I’ve got the app!!.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jpian0923]

Well done Molinari.

[@y0lefted]

With a yellow hazard, don't you need to keep the hazard between you and the hole?

[@joeperez3520]

Yes. With Yellow, point of entry must be exactly in line between the hole and where you drop.

[@masters-iv6hw]

Played a guy the other day in the club knock out and he kept grounding his club in the hazard but I didn't want to be that guy so I let it until he did it two holes later and I pulled him on it . Felt bad but rules are rules . Great vid buddy

[@BlueIced256]

Well, that's not the case in every country, I'm afraid.

[@johnelrick3341]

Does anyone have a link to the statistic spreadsheet ?

[@mortenlothe6893]

#DansArmy = (all the seniors, and they are many in numbers). Just ask Lockey;)

[@dalepenn5190]

I think red stakes you are aloud the 2 club drop to the side not yellow stakes

[@joeperez3520]

Correct. Yellow stakes you must keep the point of entry in line with the hole. Even if the ball landed on the side of the green and rolled in, keeping point of entry in line with the flagstick leaves no place you COULD drop it on the side where the green is.

[@apaulmcdonough2170]

Lateral Hazards usually are determined by the Impossibility of keeping the Point of Entry between you and the Hole.

[@jongeephotography]

Isn't one of the 2019 rule changes a consolidation of hazard types?

[@richjam51]

Rory off 7!!!...Looks more like 6 to me.

[@danno5690]

Mark demonstrates why people get scared about golf rules by becoming very agitated when Dan dared to question his understanding of yellow stakes rules. And he was flipping wrong and Dan caved in to keep the peace. Meanwhile Lockey hiding behind the pathetic half fact that he hasn't played competition golf lately!! Golf is golf mate and the rules apply every time you play. Ffs stand up when Mark is wrong or are you scared to?

[@agfi88]

Its painful to watch they are all shit scared of Mark lol

[@muckybarry]

Bloody lovely stuff

[@petteremberson]

Nice win Ror's and regards Rorys drop. I agree with mark. play two balls then check with the pro of the course. have one it my self and advised others of same.

[@BlueIced256]

This can only be done with strokeplay. In matchplay you need to come to a decision as it can influence the outcome of the match.

[@petteremberson]

can be done in both stroke and match play. it can affect the hole in match play and it can affect your score in stroke play. hence why I put 'ask the pro of the course'

[@BlueIced256]

Well, the reason it cannot be done in matchplay is because you need to know the result at the end of playing the hole. In matchplay you play for the and directly against your opponent. E.g. if you leave a hole undecided, how can you tell if you won 2&1 or that you are just 1 up and need to play the last hole. So the outcome might be A/S. This one undecided hole has a huge influence on which strategy both players will have on the following holes. In strokeplay it is a completely different story. There you play against the course and you count the number of strokes, which has to be correct before you sign the card.

[@petteremberson]

at anytime you can play 2 balls, then ask the pro. don't the tour pro's have a rules person with them when playing matchplay?. if uncertain what the ruling is and getting it wrong then you can be both agreeing to waiver/exclude the rules then your both disqualified.

[@BlueIced256]

That's actually not completely true... During matchplay, you can ask for an official to look at the situation. But if there's none available, the rules say that you and your opponent should come to a decision based on your best knowledge of the rules. I know it is a bit tricky, because it leaves room for cheating. But golf is a gentleman's game. And in matchplay you are not allowed to play the hole with 2 balls. That would give you an advantage over your opponent. E.g. when it comes to testing the green. I wouldn't advise you to do this, when you are playing against someone who knows the rules well. He will protest and after the match go to the competition committee to get you DQ'ed.

[@richardabram4596]

i would like to know what the final thought on the yellow stakes rules is, i read some comments below, but im not so sure that you cant do what mark and dan thought after reading a bit.

[@richardabram4596]

and what rule set

[@davidcoetzer4016]

Well done "RAY". Awesome game bra

[@yadthink]

Rory, as to why he plays well when partnered with Dan, "He's nice to me." ^

[@thebigeasy8609]

Don't you have to keep the hazard between you and the hole on a yellow staked hazard? Sounds like to me Mark has red and yellow stakes confused. But i for sure am no rules official. Other than that loved the vlog Mark. Go #Dan Brigade

[@MarkCrossfield]

Yep Rory is correct 👍

[@espears6606]

Bagpipes in the background classic

[@chrisrobinson2284]

Rules says u have to drop behind

[@Cutchy583]

Rory army 💪

[@keithmancinelli3170]

I think they were referring to it as the Rory Navy?

[@grinchy97]

Ray's Brigade

[@brians5098]

Rory space force. Take that trump.

[@paddyohagan9373]

RAF, SURELY!

[@Cutchy583]

Rory’s regiment 💪

[@benswanton2958]

Raymundo = Champion golfer of the year! #bunman #7

[@Stephenpettitt198]

Rory has a birdie putt = sorry mate no time to film this because the football is on and it’s coming home. Rory might have made a mistake with a drop = let’s spend half an hour debating it, what even is football?

[@stevebaker6299]

So... just to clear things up with this drop malarky. What Mark proposed about dropping over the other side of the hazard, could Rory of done that?

[@MarkCrossfield]

No Rory was right I was wrong. 👍

[@andybgolf9260]

Ask the seniors 😉

[@superduperawesome6858]

It worries me that all your historic wins in your old playing days are void and should have been DQs #therulesofgolf. I chuckled the most to see Dan so adamant. Bring on 2019 rules!

[@jrs4516]

pretty simple. draw an imaginary line from the pin to the place the ball crossed the hazard and beyond. all the places on the line that are not between between the ball and the pin, AND are not in a hazard, you may drop. from what i can tell looking at the video... all such places are on the far side of the burn.

[@mattde]

Rory: "Oh, its a shot hole......quick glance over to Mark to see if he's gonna get a bollocking!!!