The orbit of the Sun above Bordeaux

[@josleys]

I just by accident deleted a comment from rad vlad. Sorry! Well in fact, come to think of it, I should not be sorry as the comment had nothing to do with my video, and rad has banned me on his channel since quite a long time. But sorry to all of you that reacted to his silly arguments.

[@robertlafleur5179]

He answered my comment by saying all pictures of earth are flat. He is dumb, nothing of value was lost when you deleted his ramblings. Bon débarras!

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

lol it's okay rad vlad has never made an intelligent comment in his entire life.

[@feedingravens]

For one of us ca. 45 degrees north-latituders the flat earth summer midnight sun is about 12,000 km away and 5000 km high and due north, beyond the pole. This is an angle of 23 degrees above the horizon At equator equinox, the sun sets at 6pm, bent round 90 degrees as the sun moved on 1/4-circle, and is about 15,500 km distant (the flat earth equator circumference is 63,000 km). That is an angle of 18 degrees over the FE surface and farther away than the invisible 45 degree-midnight non-sun. Flat earth requires location and timeandate-specific lightbending/light tiring. Alone a sun dial kills the flat earth. The dial has a constant 15 degrees/hour throughout the day, The angles an FE covers per hour are largest at noon and get massively smaller when you "move" away from noon.

[@Otherj3839]

A flerfer will be along eventually to say "but you didn't take perspective into account" or something along those lines that fails to resolve their problem.

[@realcygnus]

Nifty ! Flerfs have excuses for everything.

[@heatshield]

I've seen a couple of vids similar to this and they're always always awesome. You have another winner here, even though they'll miss the "hidden" meaning and go straight to saying math is the devil.

[@paulvale2985]

That's an impressive list of channels you're banned from Jos; you must be doing something right hey?

[@ramonortiz7462]

Explain how you get "banned" from a channel?? If the FLAT earth TOPIC is as dumb as you all make it out to be why do you spend every waking moment defending the globe!?? Now Im not here to irritate anyone or continually post the same post like some,,,, I seek truth and truth only.

[@halfhumanhalfzombie]

I got Peter and Pete and Mark Sargent on my list.

[@ramonortiz7462]

That's because if you ask him to explain " HOWEVER if we are to be HONEST we dont know what GRAVITY is ITSELF in ANY FUNDAMENTAL WAY "!!? He gets very very upset because the truth is GRAVITY ITSELF HASN'T one IOTA of PRESENCE, SUBSTANCE or FORM of ITSELF to DIRECTLY DETECT, IDENTIFY, ISOLATE, STUDY or HARNESS!! GRAVITY ITSELF is FAKE/INTANGIBLE!!

[@halfhumanhalfzombie]

@@ramonortiz7462 If flat Earth is so real then why do we get blocked by these channels for pointing out it's multiple flaws?

[@ramonortiz7462]

@@halfhumanhalfzombie What channels!? The heliocentric model is a PARADIGM you must EXIBIT FAITH IN!! IS IT SO HARD TO REALIZE WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING WHEN YOU READ A SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN JOURNAL!!? YOU WERE PROGRAMMED TO INSTANTANEOUSLY BELIEVE, MEMORIZE AND REGURGITATE EVERYTHING THEY TELL YOU!! IF YOU ARE BEING BLOCKED BY CERTAIN CHANNELS ITS PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING DISRESPECTFUL

[@Sableagle]

06:16 bearing 055°, azimuth 055°, altitude 5000 km, elevation angle 0°, distance ... umm ... you guys, my calculator app doesn't want to tell me the distance.

[@robertlafleur5179]

Funny, I wonder why.

[@Sableagle]

I had an idea on my way out after posting that: get the azimuth and elevation angles at the same times from somewhere on the south coast of West Africa, and triangulate the position from them, rather than just picking 5000 km altitude. That'll allow calculation of the velocity, too, and from that, at hyperbolic speeds, a calculation of how much more *blue* the Sun should look a few minutes after sunrise.

[@Lucas-vd2gx]

You should have added that transformation of Flat Earth to Round Earth and have the sun trajectory right lol

[@josleys]

I did not want to confuse the flerfers more than necessary!

[@Lucas-vd2gx]

@@josleys lol

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

@@josleys heh too late. The second you mentioned azimuth's, angles, and hyperbola. Probably still searching on google.

[@PaulaBean]

tbh, I was fully expecting this.

[@Petey194]

Superb visuals. That list! 🤔I only recognise about 6 or 7 names. Didn't realise there was that many numpties around the globe! 🤭

[@ReinoGoo]

And the sun is not even ”up” down behind the horizon (and where is the flat water on the other side?).

[@martinmato8527]

Let me guess...you have tried a play of word and it gone a Word salad.

[@Planet_Tiger]

"Qu'importe la trajectoire pourvu que la terre soit plate" Credo platiste...

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

Given the number of channels that have blocked you, your videos ar, sadly enough, pearls before swine. However beautiful they are.

[@drosophilamelanogaster4262]

Where did rad vlad go? Probably to take a photo of the dome

[@bertrickles15]

Another great video and to the point.

[@pedroth3]

Can you create a playlist for all these flat earth videos? @josleys

[@kleberpatry4800]

Os terraprânsistas em nenhum momento, em tempo algum, em tempo nenhum, jamais, nenhuma vez, de maneira nenhuma, de modo algum, de modo nenhum, em nenhuma circunstância conseguirão interpretar algo tão simples como demostrado. Another GOOD JOB! 👏👏

[@josleys]

Obrigado!

[@Robotocracy]

Ah, but this presupposes flat earthers are capable of understanding basic geometry.

[@fernleystephens2436]

They can't. Some of them can't even convert metres into kilometres.

[@doddermodd]

I think it'd be effective to also show the trajectory on a globe so they don't object "Well, it doesn't work on the AE map, but it doesn't work on Da Glowb Moddle"

[@josleys]

Well, showing that to scale, with the sun at 93 million miles, is going to be a bit difficult.

[@doddermodd]

@@josleys Fair enough.

[@OudeicratAnnachrista]

nice, but you should have also included the necessary actual size change to keep the observed angular size consistent with what we see in reality

[@josleys]

Yes, but I did not want to further confuse flerfers more than necessary!

[@DaveZee823]

I have always loved your videos.

[@kellyd6195]

You typical globe believers. You forgot to take into account the changes in air density due to unicorn farts, magical optics, and the Pac-Man corridors ( how the sun is capable of disappearing from one area, but appears on the opposite side)…duuuh. Seriously, great job and very educational.

[@Theodolphe]

Cheers from Bordeaux :)

[@jonashautier9169]

As always, a great demo !

[@ReinoGoo]

Other hyperbolas are the latitudes, and the star trails. But great circles around the globe are straight lines. Because great circles are straight, on intersecting planes, vertical at different angles to the flat earth flat sky plane.

[@martinmato8527]

The earth is flat, eh? Please, provide to us at least two airports or cities strictly separated by more than 20000 km (or 12430 statute miles, or 10800 nautical miles... your choice.) We are looking forward to your findings...

[@mymumbakescakes]

May I mirror this?

[@josleys]

Yes, sure.

[@John.0z]

Another brilliant visualisation Jos. Very well done. I am keen to see the responses by the flat supporters.

[@josleys]

So far the flat supporters are doing their utmost best to ignore this.

[@John.0z]

@@josleys What a surprise Jos. I think keeping it simple is maintaining the explanation at about their level.

[@romithromith]

And this is why you have Oakley abandoning the small, local Sun of classic flerfology for convenient new found ignorance. I mean why get yourself pinned down by a model. I'm continuously annoyed how FEers can't comprehend scale so I'm creating a test for debates. I produced a drawing with a circle the size of Earth, and others exponentially larger and (mostly) smaller, trimming to 100m (and 1km) sections, stacking them up with a human figure for scale, as a test if our friends can pick the right curve. A second version would have 100m sections of Earth's true curve mixed with 100m straight lines letting them choose which are which, again maintaining scale with a human figure. Just maybe some of FEers will experience a Eureka moment: "big curves look flat".

[@GymRowboat]

Oakley maintains that we can't know anything about anything. Therefore, flat. Convenient indeed.

[@romithromith]

@@GymRowboat And Nathan is doing his best to promote ignorance.

[@GymRowboat]

@@romithromith Thinking hopeful thoughts for Nathan has been more difficult since he was caught secretly admitting to the globe. He's a bad boy. Your scale test sounds intriguing. There are a lot of misconceptions you could test them on. Bob the Science Guy did a live quiz a while back but I don't recall any visuals.

[@YouToobeism]

@Robert Thomas, you are so right. Flerfers have a very hard time imagining the scale of the Earth in comparison to their out-sized self-impression. I like to ask them what they think is the slope of a typical garage floor and then follow with the fact that the curve of the Earth is 82 times less severe than that of their own garage floor. For a graphic representation, see the wonderful £10,000 spherical Earth challenge met by a fellow running the Nick Oz channel using nothing more than an AutoCAD drawing of a 830 meter wide building (a square version of the tallest building in the world) on a 12,742 km diameter Earth: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp_ahaeolK-Mea8 The opposite walls of the box version of the test building differ by a very small fraction of an inch despite being 830 meters apart.

[@romithromith]

@@YouToobeism BlueMarbleScience presented the same argument using 2 surveyors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6ayq42qgphlpLM . These people aren't open to evidence. Hooked by conspiracy theories, FEers are not only immune to contrary evidence, but in my experience such evidence tends to deepen their belief in the conspiracy. (I found out it's called the Backfire Effect.)

[@doctorem]

Very nice graphics. This is the kind of thing I've wanted to do but don't have the chops. Thanks!

[@mick62569]

If somebody comes to you and tells you that the Earth is flat just say yeah I know it's flat but then ask them what is the shape. Every shape has a flat surface. The point on a sphere is flat. So yea I can say honestly that Earth is spherical flat. So there that.

[@devfromthefuture506]

I would love to see you doing 3D kleinian animations

[@josleys]

Well I have lots of pictures, and some animations too.

[@videobitsofreality]

Great video.

[@OlivierJoseph]

Génial !

[@thamnguyen5182]

Nice! Your videos should be seen by more viewers. May I repost your channel without changing anything on the clean platform named Gan Jing World? Thank you!

[@josleys]

No problem! Go ahead!

[@sthurston2]

Nice one Jos.

[@MGoudsmits]

As usual Good Stuff

[@samplistic]

😁

[@wirrwarr8834]

Jos, where is your imagination?! God makes a new sun every day. Where it comes from or goes is irrelevant. Santa Claus will probably make presents out of it. PS Why do I have to think about the Beatles now? ;-)

[@josleys]

Are you thinking of "the fool on the hill"?

[@wirrwarr8834]

@@josleys Hehe... of course I meant _Here comes the sun._ It was clear that I didn't think about as many corners as you did. Silly me... every day anew. xD

[@inhorama338]

Why do you put so much effort across many videos to prove flat earther are wrong ? Is it some kind of hobby to you ?

[@josleys]

Yes! Showing the stupidity of flat Earthers is good fun!

[@inhorama338]

@@josleys Haha ok, thank you for your reply

[@realistn9343]

Hi Jos, I've just seen a a couple of your videos. Great work and so intuitive all of them. Tnx.

[@ReinoGoo]

How can water stay on a spinning ball? It is contained by the curve in the elevations. You can see it down to the horizon. It is the sky. It is up on the other side.

[@martinmato8527]

And why all falls *down* ? Boyancy and density are not forces. Beside, all objects falls down at the same rate in a vacuum chamber empty from any air; for example. How do you explain that privilegied direction?

[@ReinoGoo]

Buoyancy is a force. It is the force from the weight of the density, with different density on the inside and the outside.

[@ReinoGoo]

And the weight is the mass times the apparent gravity, as usual.

[@martinmato8527]

@@ReinoGoo you're escaping the question: Buoyancy is not a force. Archimedes' Law of Buoyancy is.and is an UPWARD force based on VOLUME (liquid or gas displaced). NOT density. and "density" or buoyancy are irrelevant without air in our case: how do you explain objects falling DOWN at the same rate in VACUUM CHAMBERS without air? it is more clear, now or you 'll try escaping again?

[@martinmato8527]

@@ReinoGoo *_and the weight is the mass times the apparent gravity, as usual._* And now "apparent" gravity... lol... Really do you think before coming with such stupidity?