The Ottoman Empire sucks and that won't stop me!

[@AlextheRambler]

Ah my favourite mod!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

It's lovely, isn't it?

[@daggieYT]

rambler bambler

[@hrisimirivanov3910]

@AlextheRambler can you save my hoi4 disaster ?

[@totallynotatree1]

Could you play Togo in the Great War Redux with the real time mod enabled? Thank you!

[@lucianobertoncasanovas4342]

the best one indeed

[@thinkandgame3627]

In order to get the peace deal, I think you have to give Paris or London to the Germans, they never anticipated the Ottomans rising back to glory.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Common Entente L

[@thinkandgame3627]

@@Bitt3rSteel They're too proud to accept an Ottoman W and would rather see Paris burn (who doesn't ?).

[@SovietsbetterthanrussiaALT]

​@@Bitt3rSteelligma Play a game on the hardest mode or do a sandbox one cuz why not

[@muhrichard8634]

sounds like bad devs

[@Rel_Hans]

@@muhrichard8634 learn to respect

[@SYMBI05IS]

*[The Great War Status: Stalemate]* *[Italy joins the Entente]* *[Italy get's kicked out of Africa]* *[Italy get's Naval Invaded]* *[Italy Capitulates]* *[Ottoman Empire uses Italian Alps to flank France]* *[France get's overwhelmed and capitulates]* *[Entente Surrenders]* Conclusion: *Italy joining the Entente caused it to collapse before the US could join* *CLASSIC HOI4 ITALY MOMENT* 🍕

[@talesferreiralimadossantos8806]

Italy was never kicked out of Africa because they never took Libya. Remember?

[@SYMBI05IS]

@@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 I mean, they still got kicked out of Africa during the Italo-Turkish War of Libya, causing the Ottomans partial Mediterranean Dominance to launch a Naval Invasion of the Italian Heartland Peninsula So yeah, losing that War hastened the collapse of the Entente

[@talesferreiralimadossantos8806]

@@SYMBI05IS Alright, that makes sense.

[@felixlauridsen7358]

True lol

[@sentinel_kronos839]

Ottomam Empire basically Disaster Saves

[@ulfzurirksourzukfzofzoufzo5377]

The worst of them

[@turtle-ij4bs]

And then there is eu4

[@AndrewCave-i5e]

@@turtle-ij4bs Ottomans in Eu4 are basically a slow descent towards a disaster save

[@merijnmast9395]

Bittersteel: debt is just a number Greeks: My knowlegde is past through

[@Mr.MR2111]

I was just thinking, "wow this is a very realistic game" but then the Ottomans were in London

[@CjkdJdjd]

İt would be reality if ottomans had stabilty and did not coup every pasha last 100 years of the empire

[@sigmaentrepreneur5018]

at least we dont have vanilla 20 x 70 day Turkey focuses just to unlock foreign policy 😩

[@culannthehound94]

This comment is underrated.

[@simulacrumpilot2777]

Yeah base game Turkey focua tree sucks ass. Affects and bonuses it gives are fine but everything just tooks forever.

[@gulsum6084]

​@@simulacrumpilot2777yeah. They should make it something like 50 days if thwy want to make it long but 70 DAYS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO *SHIET*

[@commander91st41]

Thank you for playing as ottomans! Can you try those trap-paths in kaiserreich? The ottoman and the austrian trap-paths to see If you can win em!

[@Mbd-n4s]

Not even a heart wow

[@Mbd-n4s]

See this bitter

[@Bitt3rSteel]

What are the trap paths?

[@commander91st41]

@@Bitt3rSteel For Ottomans, You need to assissante Ataturk and brining Fevzi cakmak to the power and at the elections choose the " Kadro movement " and do the "Fulfil the Union of the Party and State" And you gonna fight the whole states that turks arent majority For Austria Do the "End the Dual Rule" It explains it at the spoilers, The most disaster one is Ottomans, They fight against many countries than austria but It'd be nice if u can do both of them!

[@commander91st41]

​@@Bitt3rSteel For Austrian Trap Path, You need to end the dual rule, for more of it you can check "reveal the spoilers" For Ottomans, You need to assinate Mustafa Kemal and make a coup with Fevzi Cakmak and choosing the kadro movement in-coming elections and you need to do the fulfil the union of party and state and every state which turks aren2t at majority is going to rebel against you

[@kronsbanntin2201]

fun fact: bitt3rsteel isnt bitter nor from steel no cap

[@komar7022]

idk he sounds pretty bitter ngl

[@TheManWithTheFlan]

i have seen his videos where he rescues disaster save. he's plenty bitter

[@TheTrooper1878]

He was pretty bitter when Albania revolted though

[@korhol2065]

He’s bitter in that sometimes the game really hates him and he’s steel for how it takes more than a glitch to completely knock him down

[@aziziDC]

11:23 Omer Fahreddin Paşa is a great general actually defended against 50k rebels with just 15k soldiers in Hejazi Province

[@zibidi374]

FINALLY AN OTTOMAN VIDEO! Been waiting for this for ever!

[@Vlad-ny2qt]

SAME!

[@gagezi11a]

He did one a while ago

[@gagezi11a]

Although he did lose

[@zibidi374]

@@gagezi11a well he won my heart

[@iytx9888]

26:00 Ottomans couldn't do it because of the incident has occured in Sarikamis basically enver pasha tried to push through the border to all the way to center asia to free the Turks but because of the cold weather in sarıkamış and the ottomans couldnt afford nice and warm clothes 90.000 ottoman soldiers frooze to death

[@ahiyazlm5287]

🤕

[@viclorenzo5016]

20:54 Hey, that's the Ottoman Sultan in vanilla Hoi4 except he looks younger.

[@emmastonesimp]

I AM LITERALLY SOO HAPPY RN

[@RiverTree149]

Same

[@culannthehound94]

Oohrah! Sooo many naval invasions. Demanding Belgium countryball was great. Y’all better like the video.

[@Yodel1ngS0up]

THE BEST MOD RETURNS!!!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I LOVE this mod

[@el-gamer2773]

No, once when I played russia ww1 didnt Even break out on historical 😮‍💨

[@junker_1939]

tgwr IS NOT the best mod

[@foxanard]

Not even close to the best mod, but anyway...

[@aquashadow2558]

It's his opinion bruv 🤷🏻​@@junker_1939

[@weebscp0966]

Title: The Ottoman Empire sucks and that won't stop me! Me, thinking about EU4 wondering what he's smoking:

[@JoeZombie-nq7qj]

Would still be fitting for a game as Hisn Kayfa, Byz, Trebizond, Karaman, Albania...?

[@weebscp0966]

@ yeah but the ottomans in eu4 dont suck, the AI does

[@JoeZombie-nq7qj]

@@weebscp0966 I meant sucks in the sense of "fuck you neighbor", not them being weak.

[@weebscp0966]

@@JoeZombie-nq7qj valid, just not what i meant

[@Jarnsmidr]

Virgin hoi4 ottomans vs. Chad eu4 ottomans

[@The_Marttrix]

There is nothing like waking up to a dove jumpscare (long story) and finding out Bitt3r made a video about the Ottomans! So cool, love your videos man! Also, will you ever play Kaierreich? I think that that mod’s Ottomans also need a lot of help!

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

24:32 The vitriol in that “So be it” is a rare glimpse of the righteous fury of the Belgians!

[@IbrahimArdaPOLAT]

1600's Ottoman Empire 🗿💀☠️

[@yurimiyama9825]

"If I have to kill all of you to get this done, so be it." My exact mindset when playing factions that have civil war or rebellions built into them LOL.

[@A_levs]

Italy: *uses dark magic to summon troops out of thin air in his nation* Bitt3r: *fully prepared with troops already surrounding Italian positions before said Italians even exist* Italy: *betrays the central powers exactly like irl* Bitt3r: “I’ll have to Anticipate that” *proceeds to curb stomp the Entente as the sick man of Europe* Please never stop making videos, I can’t live without this 😂

[@bridel2851]

"debt is just a number" one of the greatest quotes heard by american politicians

[@fatihbekar9814]

Ottoman empire is just too overpowered if u go the right path

[@fatihbekar9814]

U go economically left take as much investments as u can then just go pan islamism or communism and not pay the debts, losing the balkan war doesnt matter cuz balkans mostly arent cores if u win the balkan war then unshould just release them as puppet so u only get investments in core places

[@beamngtv4000]

25:58 imagine doing it while the weather temp -30 degree and your army literally has only thin low quality clothes

[@austria-hungary7680]

fun fact: the Ottoman Public Debt Administration (OPDA) was created so that the Ottomans could pay back their debts and investors could get their returns (iirc). Though the main purpose of the OPDA was solely to make sure the Ottoman Empire doesn't default on their debts for the second time.

[@highadmiralbittenfield9689]

Said Halims portrait looks like turkish Alex Jones

[@thomasjcarwile9143]

‘Still shit, but slight less shit’ story of my life

[@gabrielreid4950]

"Debt is just a number" and prison is just a free vacation

[@thegoddamnsun5657]

cringe pfp, usually it will be war and not prison

[@kurteierschmalz]

24:23 basically every Sultan at some point😂

[@CL-T-ed7lq]

8:48 "You get some you losse some" -A wise man

[@GöktürkballProductions]

It depends in the time, you play at the fall of ottomans, go play at year 1566

[@alperbasiyor]

hadi ya gerçekten mi

[@rks8820]

1:05 Funny how the mod team got an illiterate person to write the text about illiteracy.

[@alperenklck7712]

oh yes it’s all over 1897 ottoman-greek war again; won in the battlefield, lost at the table

[@stoneman210]

"I dont care what it costs, debt is just a number" Ooh someone took after america!

[@bogacsuyok8292]

About 26:00, actually ottomans tried it, but in reality, trying that actually turned out to be the stupid decision, and sad. Read Sarıkamış disaster.

[@WHATYOULOOKIJGAT]

Ottoman empire in Ww1: 😐😑😐🤢🤮 Ottoman Beylik And At its peak: 🗿

[@talosisoursavior3061]

The purchase equipment decisions are incredible op, they just cost 10 pp and give enough equipment that you can outfit your entire army with just purchased equipment, so the fact that you might have +200% consumer goods from debt is irrelevant. Not to mention stacking enough consumer goods reductions with a good economy law will mean your massive debt doesn't even really cripple your economy that much.

[@badluck-cp8bv]

Props to bitterstell for pronouncing the names at an acceptable quality/accuracy

[@arturpokwapisz2500]

9:09 Bittersteel being eastern europe politician for a moment 😂

[@NoSmurf-tu6jq]

26:03 when the ottomans tried that in ww1 they lost 70-80K man due to the weather 😢

[@Joshua.R.]

29:48 "the cream of the French army" 🤨

[@GustavoGplay]

The howitzers may not be amazing early game, but if I'm not mistaken, they scale mid to late game, and become much better than normal artillery. I always use them when I play this mod and usually the result is great. Unless things have changed recently. It's been a while since I last played it.

[@epsilon4428]

2:38 is the most Hoi4 thing i have ever heard.

[@JosTheMan1]

23:13 you cheeky bastard did us dirty

[@N1ght_Breaker]

Bittersteel: tries to push Russia back until the Soviet revolt begins Also bittersteel: has a revolt of his own right afterwards

[@ProductofWit]

Playing challenging states makes for the most interesting runs. Love this mod. EDIT: Haha, just realised you're also Belgian as well. I just couldn't tell, because you don't have a strong accent. Subscribed.

[@Es.Tank13]

I love how, when Bitt3rSteel takes Athens and a few moments later he zooms out, Greece suddenly just has two capitals 😂 The other one is right besides his elite troops and the other one is in Crete

[@Es.Tank13]

I was wrong, I didn't know that Crete was a puppet of the Greecs.

[@bartuomyej]

As for sultans, you have 4 options (you can trust me, i spent last 2 weeks playing exclusively Ottoman Empire in TGWR with my friend) Abdulmecid - some general buffs to stability, pp gain, some construciton factories - weak af Yusuf Izzedin - buffs to army and attack (a lot of buffs, but quite weak) - mid af Ahmed Nihad - out of the three available when you Intervene in the Elections, he used to be the best due to sheer amount of fucking buffs for industry this guy has, but since they nerfed Ottoman Empire to start with 12 factories instead of 48, usually it's too late to reap the benefits of this guy and the best one as of now: Abdulhamid II (the face from the first political focus) - if you go for coup instead of intervening, you can get this guy - he gets +2500 WEEKLY manpower on top of some other nice buffs, and more importantly - it allows you to go down the Shadow of Allah on Earth route, which enables you to instantly remove Sick man of Europe, and the best part - instantly default on debt (which means, you can get the focuses to spam factories via decisions, push your national debt to something like 500-600%, and then just default on debts and have a functional and VERY STRONG economy). The only problem with this guy is the fact that coup route gives you much more penalties early on, and you'll have problems with stability until 1915.

[@bartuomyej]

new patch just came in, and sultan paths became a little bit weaker. but at least they fixed broken decisions mechanics

[@Esta_Chan]

Abd-ul-Hamid is overrated but he's the best bet we can ask for. For Balkan War how many men you lost? I lost ±160k and beat 367k. Wonder why you suggest Abd-ul-Hamid

[@yigitisk5531]

I heard that the high score on this belongs to a guy called Mustafa Kemal.

[@connorholt6965]

After just finishing playing as the Ottoman Empire I figured out if you rush army reform and surrender to the Italians then you can just barely hold on against the balkan war.

[@mackenziefallow8371]

Hmmm very impressive stuff, but you should play the Ottomans in Kaissereich to experience an even more difficult (complicated) game. Save Attaturks disaster save Mr Bittersteel!

[@shadowmane6528]

I find great war redux ottomans Harder then Kaiserreich

[@mackenziefallow8371]

@@shadowmane6528 I've felt that previously but in recent updates the 3I send volunteers to the Cairo Pact so suddenly you have to deal with tanks in the desert...not a fun time

[@ultimatestuff7111]

@@shadowmane6528it’s either or, I made an Air Force in kx which made the war trivial, but the minority management is so much worse, gwr ottomans star bad, but you can still easily win the Balkan war and nihad is just so op

[@blue-_-space2209]

The people who say to use howitzer probably dont know about the nerf the Howitzers got. Howitzers before were a must have but now artilers is just better

[@blue-_-space2209]

Also another thing to say is that the Germans need to control paris in order for entante to surender

[@ultimatestuff7111]

Pro tip- pick nehid as your sultan as his buffs to industry are so op, and never get rid of him through balance of power

[@SusGermanBoi]

By the way, the action Army path looks like the historical path because theres a focus that makes Ataturk the Leader

[@nc-st2ny]

Already subscribed but video liked just because of the tidbit at 7:00 in. Loved that bit.

[@Thegoldenaerobar2]

The futurama clips always got me dying, still my favorite show ever

[@AngryDrake]

"I have to conclude my Russian campaign quickly." :D

[@h.u.2462]

30:54 with 0,25x speed here you go a beatiful sea map...

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

I have been waiting for this

[@Honza67382]

5:51 Is it just me or does he input like a sound effect whenever he inoute like an edit of people from movies?

[@Zaza-of2gx]

Babe wake up, bitt3rsteel uploaded another mod video

[@VivBrodock]

hoi4 players when they look at a focus tree: I'd like to do the monarchy path

[@Spock-ro3qr]

Le'ts gooooo I asked yo to do a replay of the ottoman empire and finally you did it, you r my favourite hoi 4 youtuber

[@Immortalfloridianmapping]

Hello bitt3rsteel I like how you can take any nation in any condition and turn it into a world conquering empire

[@levibartolo7105]

I'm Kaiser Wilhelm II, the first wars of gas and like the godfathers the sequel kicks ass. ;)

[@YouthNox]

You should modernise army much earlier but great video

[@ericfuchs123]

Really the best route for the Ottomans is to stay out of this war entirely.

[@damonedrington3453]

To be fair, the Ottoman Empire only sucks when you’re using the 1914 borders because it’s basically just turkey and a couple small countries

[@ilkerKorkutlar]

Way be, adam kızılelma yaptı 😀

[@peterbrown6494]

20:59 More like the opposite,since Austria broke the pact attacking a nation in the balkans,without first speaking with italy,it was wrote in the treaty,and Austria broke it

[@inductivegrunt94]

Ottoman Empire. How to create a disaster save before even pressing play on the date counter.

[@JoanaAhiable]

That thumbnail sayind useless and terrible ,i felt it

[@kniazjarema8587]

23:10 You made me look!

[@raubwurst]

What happened there?

[@ShadowOfThePit]

@@raubwurstBittersteel got a discord notification

[@raubwurst]

@@ShadowOfThePit Ah, thank you

[@batu.onr07]

Devleti yaşat ki devlet yaşasın, devlet başkanı Bitt3rSteel için like ❤

[@suleymantnr6749]

you were so good that scripted events bugged and did not work. in my game when germany enters paris, a peace deal accepted.

[@Deimos3515]

Ah finally! The Ottomans!

[@larpOttomanfr]

Almost right with the Abdulhamid part, the constitutionalists failed miserably against Russia in 1877-1878

[@burcinadsonmez4775]

26:00 > "Why didn't Ottomans tried it at first time? Are they stupid?" Actually, War Minister İsmail Enver Pasha tried it at the winter of 1914-15. But just as you said, he was so stupid that he tried to cross Caucasus Mountains at the middle of the winter. Causing 60-78.000 causalties from exposure and frostbite to his army. Instead of breaking through Caucasus he retreated back to the Eastern Anatolia. The whole debacle resulted in Ottomans losing prominent cities such as Kars, Erzurum and Trebizond; and also lead to the Armenian Genocide because of Enver's attempt to cover his ass. So; no, it was almost the first thing that the Ottomans tried in the war. And yes, they were mostly stupid.

[@abdraoufalti]

Hello bitt3rsteel can you play Japan in the downfall mod or selow hights it wold be so much fun and i hope do a naval guide and the best ships to build please and thank you very much for the enjoyment you providing us with Thanks so much 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@Bitt3rSteel]

I'll check it out!

[@dizzypukas8410]

13:43 I’m practically certain you can Finnish this before world war 2 Finish 😂

[@CH59vlog]

You know those Finns, fighting to the death

[@AtakanBaltac]

that music on the background gonna kill me.

[@lordthaemathy7647]

around the beggining of 1914 is it impossible to stop the senussi's taking tibesti or is there a way to stop them?

[@Sheikh717]

I've been waiting so long for this video lol

[@withche07]

26:00 Ottomans actually occupied Azerbaijan in ww1. army sent there was rather successful until Bolsheviks involved and "cleaned" whole Caucasus (anyways Bolsheviks compromised after occupying caucasus gave lot of Territories from Kars-Artvin area back to Turks actually, which made this front sort of successful for Turks after the war.)

[@teodormitrovic6696]

6:20 MAybe historicaly the Ottomans were confused too so that why they failed, aka collapsed?

[@liaratsoni8556]

Next do MacArthur in Old World Blues!!! Glory to America!

[@ringthatbell9597]

The ottomans achieved fiscal responsibility, but only after capping the Greeks coincidence? I THINK NOT!

[@gaspy2458]

How people dont take the opening the economy path you can get about 14 civs with only 1 focus

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Because if you don't do the political path fast enough, the purge is so bad

[@Gabeslicor]

What a coincidence, I was just looking for another Ottoman Empire video.

[@eneskara6578]

25:58 ottomans tried that in 1914-1915 but attacking russia in december was not a great idea in 1918 ottomans attacked again and they invaded Caucasus and reached Dagestan

[@atdragonat5941]

with the last sultan u prob mean abulhamid II , u can get em actually in great war btw

[@atlokcu502]

Youre doing the accent gold ngl.

[@themedic366]

i've had the opposite issue where the entente surrendered before I capped any of the majors

[@connor1734]

Love the morning uploads, amazing start to the day! You're awesome BitterSteel, I would watch your videos if you exclusively played Germany and Turkey/Ottomans!

[@canerdem5345]

Well Ottomans tried to do something you do in Caucasus but the equipments were insufficient, Army and the goverment shitty that leads to Battle of Sarikamish. 25.000 Ottoman died because frostbite.

[@just_ace9952]

As a turk ottomans really sucked near the collapse.

[@walnzell9328]

18:38 Is the sole independent nation in conflict with the Balkan states. Somehow doesn't have enough points to do anything.

[@alp2ccc138]

I never paid attention to this game since I was playing Civilization all these years. Historical names are spot on My God! As a Texan Ottoman I would love if the next bit was added though; In early August 1914, Churchill commandeered Sultan Osman and Reşadiye - two battleships bought by the Ottomans from Vickers and Armstrong. 500 Turkish troops had arrived in a steamer at Newcastle on Tyne to sail the ships home, when Churchill made this last minute decision to grab them for the British fleet. This decision - deemed ‘British treachery’ - came with no promise of compensation and helped sway the Turkish people in favour of siding with Germany. In August 1914, the Ottoman Empire signed a treaty of alliance with Germany, and formally entered the First World War on 28th October 1914, with the bombing of Russian Black Sea ports. The Triple Entente, or Allied Powers, declared war on the Ottoman Empire on 4th November.

[@Podzhagitel]

a texan… ottoman…

[@alp2ccc138]

@@Podzhagitel Yeah they are English terms. There was no such thing as Ottoman btw, the official name of the empire was Devlet-i Aliyye Muhammediyye meaning the Great State of Muhammed. So today Ottoman means Turkish Muslim.

[@Podzhagitel]

@@alp2ccc138 well you learn something new every day. selam pardner! yeehaw haydi!

[@ColeMcCluskey-w4f]

Literally the best nation for this mod playing the turks is so much fun and good for skill practice