The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S Tech Review, Performance Tested

[@chrys9256]

I didn't think it would be possible to make a game look better and worse at the same time, but they sure as hell did it.

[@bikechan9903]

Tracks for the game as a whole. I never thought it was possible to make a world so intriguing and then stick it in a game so devoid of any intrigue.

[@AlternateKek]

​@@bikechan9903 I agree I got super bored by the time I got past the big space ship. All the charactere had that quirky borderlands feel to them and I ended up killing most quest npcs

[@joshw9527]

It really is pretty impressive.

[@floppa9415]

GTA 5 "Hyper Realistic" Graphic Mods are a thing.

[@CodyHimselfXI]

Well said, it's like the changes make it look better but then the old style seems to be completely taken out of the equation.

[@LMXPebble]

It's not the best choice, it's Spacer's Choice.

[@Cueil]

Exactly lol

[@NariandColds]

Gotta love the irony

[@AndreThompson925]

holy crap, this is brilliant.

[@Kensterrrrr]

Stop with obvious corny comments

[@0xF00F00]

You've tried the best, now come back to the rest!

[@dcarpenter85]

This update lives up to its name, that's for sure. I find it hilarious they chose to call it Spacer's Choice while delivering an absolutely bottom tier product.

[@JahonCross]

Yea

[@90lancaster]

Hobson's Choice. I just hope that on demand crap doesn't stop the old game working.

[@linhza501]

Maybe it really is a super elaborate joke they want to pull lmao.

[@thedude8128]

The devs were spaced out while making the upgrades.

[@flyingpaladin617]

It actually looks and performs better than the original

[@cormoran2303]

Extensive... just with no ray tracing. BUT fear not! it performs like it's filled with ray tracing!

[@leonro]

Now you too can pretend to have RT, even if you use a GTX/pre-RX 6000 graphics card! Old gen console users are missing out, lol.

[@triple_thrice]

important to point out that the 10$ upgrade is only available if you own the base game AND all the dlc

[@justinthejerkoff]

Lol so 10 bucks for the game to look and run worse. I was thinking we'll I have a 3080 so I can brute force some performance issues and $10 might be worth it for DLC... but apparently not lmao Thanks for the heads up 👍

[@SLRModShop]

*downgrade

[@John-fs8be]

Good to know, so this isn’t an option for me. The game isn’t that great to buy all the DLCs.

[@Prisoner_ksc2-303]

@@John-fs8be these GOTY editions tend to drop price quite fast

[@WayStedYou]

well that ruined my only plus for the entire game, I thought getting the DLC for 10 bucks would be good despite the downsides but that makes it pintless

[@matthewjalovick]

I’m glad this isn’t a free automatic update that I can’t avoid. I’m going to just keep my original on Series X at dynamic 4K :)

[@rumble5036]

Agreed! The new version is too different in its overall vibe, kinda wish they just added ray traced reflections, lifted the level cap, added some old school cheat codes, and called it a day. And just release it as a free update after maybe showing some new Outer Worlds 2 footage to get players back in.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Being a separate game and IF they fix it to run at 60fps I'll consider it but right now OG gets all the love over this version

[@dantasticmania8728]

Honestly looks like the atmosphere is literally covered in that overly annoying yellow ,orange style haze which is actually making it look worst.

[@mctapoutos7426]

Same here, if I want to play 360/ps3 era brown/mud puke I can play on switch

[@MorrisseyMuse]

Enjoy the 9 hour loading times...lo

[@MarioGoatse]

I actually prefer the look of the original…

[@bensmith5288]

Shush

[@danielr.7062]

Yep, the map in the new version looks WAY too bright in the beginning. And the volumetric lighting looks a little odd in interiors. It seems they just changed stuff at random. Like when you get too excited modding skyrim and just start installing random mods.

[@creativeusername6453]

Give me the remaster's foliage and the original's everything else

[@leonro]

I assume that's the problem when you rework a game's visuals instead of building them from the ground up. Many artistic choices made for the original graphics will not look as adequate in the better ones. It's sort of like how pre-2000 games, even 3D ones, look better on CRTs than on flat screens, despite the higher resolution and clarity they provide.

[@chrisrodriguez8899]

@@creativeusername6453 I was thinking the same thing!

[@williamcrms]

The reworked character models actually look worse in the remaster imo. Reflections in the eyes are too intense, lighting on hair looks off, lack of shadows on skin near clothing, and less subsurface scattering than before. Also the regression in performance doesn't seem to justify the upgrades in visuals. Game runs about as heavy as CP2077 (w/RT enabled) on PC.

[@LNSLateNightSaturday]

Agreed - the only thing I'd add is that I thought the subsurface scattering was kind of overdone in the original version. I think the remaster dialing it back was probably the right choice...

[@sunyavadin]

And the greatest crime - BEST CINNAMON ROLL PARVATI ALWAYS LOOKS SAD NOW

[@Gloamy17]

Hard disagree on the character models. They look miles better to me. A lot of the 'improvements' here are pretty subjective I guess, apart from being technically more advanced. Of course the performance issues are very egregious. Hopefully they're fixed ASAP!

[@MB-hq3rv]

@@Gloamy17 03:57 compare the model geometry - spacers choice seems to be vastly lower polycount

[@evostu7814]

The pc version has a ridiculously demanding screen space GI setting that when set to high goes way beyond the console version, turn it to medium to double your frame rate.

[@MarioGoatse]

The devs: Imagine Outer Worlds, but orange? Publisher: OMG you’re a genius! Throw some grass in while you’re at it.

[@sunyavadin]

The Orange Worlds Hmmm, the new Assassin's Creed/Rayman/Arkham Oranges?

[@Kingslayer474]

Obsidian had absolutely nothing to do with this version of the game. Private division, their publisher, decided to do this before they lose access to the IP as MS now owns Obsidian. It was their last effort at a cash grab before losing their grip on Obsidian forever. Truly a-shame that Obsidian gets all the blame for this.

[@varno6793]

Yeah whats even sadder is that it isn't the original devs of the game that made this decision for a changed look... it was Private Division (the publisher) hired another studio (that has a history of crappy ports & re-releases), on the cheap, for a quick cash grab.

[@Kingslayer474]

@@varno6793 it’s very unfortunate

[@jimhultqvist2539]

@@varno6793 Yep. I think it's the same studio that handled the Switch port of this game, which was a mess for month and month. Took like 6+ month post release until they decided it might be a good idea to optimize the game...

[@bryanroy3239]

Performance issues aside, I find the original version of the game better looking. The visuals look cleaner and the colors seem more natural.

[@bensmith5288]

Don't lie

[@turmspitzewerk]

they straight up just threw in some crappy postprocessing with no regards to the art direction. obsidian, the original devs; had absolutely no involvement. their publisher is about to lose their distribution rights and just slopped this together as a last minute cash grab. i can't believe DF is actually calling this a "next gen upgrade". this is kinda just an all-around downgrade, lacking any common features you'd expect from an actual next gen upgrade.

[@spikeyshrek]

Yeah I completely agree, it looks way too over saturated and just messy.

[@chokedbybacklog5433]

​@@bensmith5288 his own opinion is a lie?

[@pietmyvrou8149]

Absolutely

[@SteamPunk96]

I really really do not like the new overall art direction change, instead of simply fixing the black crush issues the original release has, they've left it as is and blown out the whites, what an odd choice. The added abundance of flora and ground cover *would* be nice if the object shading in the mid-distance didn't seem so sparse, haven't finished the video yet so maybe it'll come up but screen space shadows would've been a nice way to treat the updates to the ground.

[@HamsterXFiles]

Oh thank God Tom knows how to put the before and after going from left to right, like normal people. While John and Alex are freaking psychopath putting the after image on the left.

[@offspringfan89]

I thought Alex stopped doing that nonsense.

[@oozly9291]

Well that’s disappointing, losing $10+ and 10+ frames

[@windmacher]

you need to pay 20 to get the frames back

[@FlipFlopGod]

Activision and Bethesda call that a deal yA KnOW

[@akaimizu1]

Sounds like when they first did the anniversary *upgrade* to Skyrim on the Switch. Until the time past by and they did the performance fix, but still feels similar in what happened. And that costed $20 extra.

[@FlipFlopGod]

What ain’t no way you guys liked Maxim Menage comment more then mine. My comment was funnier and original

[@420trippyhippie]

A perf mode that drops to 27 is quite shocking really

[@Sambrowski10]

If I was an artist at Obsidian I'd be pissed.

[@sunyavadin]

I'm pretty sure that's what they used to tint the screen.

[@antonkirilenko3116]

You tried the best, now try the rest. Spacer's Choice! Whoever thought naming this release this way would be a good idea is a genius.

[@Durwood71]

Hard to say if someone in the marketing department was clueless, or being cheeky.

[@antonkirilenko3116]

@@Durwood71 they were sending a secret message.

[@imadubsfan1]

I feel like a lot of developers attempts at remasters/remakes the last couple years always want that sunset like appearance to their games, but I feel it takes away from the original game's artstyle a lot. Things that used to be colorful and contrasting all turn into one glowing sunset.

[@cassidy8307]

It's easier to find bad remasters than it is to find good ones. Quite incredible how incompetent those devs are

[@franzusgutlus54]

In Germany we say "verschlimmbessert" which is a mesh up of "made worse" and "improved" in one word. Like "worseproved"...

[@offspringfan89]

In 🇩🇪 you would say this remaster is "scheiße".

[@chrisbent5734]

Dieses Erneut-Meister schlürft mein Arschloch, mein Bruder in Christus.

[@brendanconaway]

Wow what a dumpster fire cash grab! Great coverage!

[@piewars12345]

First impressions...it looks considerably worse lol. Something is just seriously wrong with the lighting in the new version. Everything is glowing compared to the original which has a much more grounded color palette. The color tinting on the new version is really heavy handed as well.

[@FilippoTarpini]

It's... Yellow?

[@BourbonJRA]

Got that breaking bad filter

[@flyingpaladin617]

Got it on the PS5 and it looks amazing

[@Memesis]

I prefer the original version not only does it run better but the new version looks so redish all the time mots of the light changes look horrible imo

[@CasepbX]

Looks like I'm not the only one that prefers the original.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Glad that's the case, I was worried I'd be in the minority but seems we're in the majority. The only true selling point is the increased level cap.

[@YouTubeCensors]

I like the look of the OG on XSX. Good thing it's a separate game. Having said that I will consider getting it once it's patched to actually run at 60fps like the OG does

[@lotusson]

From the footage shown here, I actually think the old version looks better in most shots.

[@Vartazian360]

Not sure what they were thinking with the strength of that volumetric fog. It cuts in too soon and gives a washed out one colored look to each planet versus the broader colors of the original. In addition, the frame rate tanks.. no buy for me

[@IkesDaddelbox]

This version is indeed Spacer's Choice. And I could slap myself for saying and meaning that.

[@sandwichmeats1753]

I believe it's a $10 upgrade only if you already own all of the DLC. If you don't own all of the DLC, the upgrade is more expensive.

[@chrisnauss8579]

I own the PS4 version, but do not own the DLC. On the PSN store it is $47.99 only because I have PS+. Otherwise it would be full price.

[@sunyavadin]

Remember, they didn't call it the *BEST* edition for a reason, it's the *SPACER'S CHOICE* edition!

[@bensmith5288]

Jokes been done 100 times already

[@plume...]

Thanks Tom, great coverage. I honestly don't think this will get fully fixed. The frame time stuttering is massively off putting and the first thing they tried to do to claw back some frames in the patch was to dial back the amount of grass in performance mode. Shadow resolution will be halved next, then a decrease in volumetric light, decrease in godray resolution... I hope I'm wrong!

[@JayUk94]

Kinda looks like they just threw a whole lotta yellow at it

[@stevieboysw]

Wow, don't like the new lighting compared to the old. It looks completely different and the artistic choices are not my cup of tea. The character models look worse to me as well.

[@Revenant_Knight]

I really wish developers would give us more video options on consoles. Let me choose the resolution and graphics quality even if it's just a simple choice of 1080P, 1440P, or 4K, and Quality or Performance mode. Also let me choose between unlocked and locked frame rates. I'd love to just set it for 1080P with Cinematic quality graphics and enjoy an unlocked frame rate on a VRR 1080P display.

[@RDR911]

"I really wish developers would be forced to quadruple the time it takes to test their games" is really all that this says.

[@KEVBOYMUSIC]

@@RDR911 Quadruple the time for some simple graphics settings that already exist on PC? You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

[@Revenant_Knight]

@@RDR911 Good to hear from an actual PS5/XSX developer. Tell us exactly how it would quadruple the time? How much longer does the PC testing take since it offers dozens of resolutions and hundreds of settings combinations? What games have your worked on? This would be great to hear!

[@Crimsongz]

@@RDR911 Yea lets pay more for less 😂

[@jessya6959]

Kinda like they did with Hogwarts Legacy, more options can only be a good thing really

[@jcfan1979]

The fact that developers (and not just the ones on this game) are OK with releasing titles with performance issues like this is a pretty eye opening look at the state of games today. The increased power current consoles and PCs have should allow for games to run better, not worse. So many tools available to squeeze out performance and give good graphical fidelity and then stuff like this comes along to show that developers aren't given enough time or they just aren't capable or worse...lazy. No wonder Microsoft had developer training for all in-house companies on Unreal 5. Hopefully some of the Unreal magicians over at the Coalition have revealed some of their expertise to other MS-owned studios. If new games ever decide to get released I guess we'll find out.

[@Extreme96PL]

Obsidian which was developer of original didnt make this publisher outsourced this to different studio.

[@jcfan1979]

@@Extreme96PL Still, some measure of quality assurance from Obsidian needs to happen to make sure that other studios don't tarnish their brand with bad press and experiences.

[@Deliveredmean42]

@@jcfan1979 It's Take Two. The last thing they want is good press for their devs!

[@CHICKEN_Lord617]

The problem is that they increased lightning without updating all the textures, the slightly darker look helps hides that

[@andygamesBR]

And it's still not 60 fps and they still charged for few changes. Fuck that.

[@09spidy]

Reminder that CDPR added full ray tracing+ overhauled textures + community mods to the Witcher 3 FOR FREE, despite the performance issues with the RT mode, the upgrade was free.

[@cheeseraid]

Original looks better to me

[@CaptToilet]

They called it spacers choice because you had to be spaced out to buy this version.

[@kidblaze210]

I kinda really like the oldder verison, looks better style wise. Everything just looks overly bright and red.

[@justanotherdave.]

When are devs going to learn we’d much prefer 1440/60 than 4k/50-60 🤦‍♂️

[@BROOKLYNBORN1994]

I would too because that’s what I play on my pc but everyone wants 4K and wants everything to look realistic …. It’s gamers fault not the devs … if they got back to 1440P and stop focusing on 4K they will get backlash . Blame the gamers around you

[@Jamic9]

This is a massive disappointment. An upgrade which down grades performance, isn't a true upgrade imo.

[@maxonaroll]

That's spacer's choice for ya

[@SirDragonClaw]

0:53 I assume you have these flipped by accident? Because the one labeled original here is objectively better, much higher resolution textures for one.

[@Gloamy17]

This really makes me appreciate solid releases from smaller developers like the recent, and rather fantastic, Atomic Heart. Edit: I will say that I like the changes in lighting, colour, character faces etc. (In the cinematic mode which looks much nicer) But the performance is extremely poor and needs a fix ASAP.

[@Gloamy17]

@@Israel.Is.TerroristState yes! It's some of the most fun I've had in an FPS since DOOM. Really interesting game design.

[@fuckoff4545-o9f]

the ghosting in that game makes it unplayable

[@Gloamy17]

​​@@fuckoff4545-o9f what are you playing on? And what updater ver.?

[@orijimi]

That "smaller developer" refers to their game as "one of the largest AAA game projects in the Russian Federation".

[@Gloamy17]

@@orijimi cool... They're a new developer that got given a grant. I'd still class them as a small developer seeing as they have a relatively small number of staff.

[@KingzEduh]

Doubt, if I buy the space choice edition, does the game come with the dlcs? Or do I have to buy the game separately too?

[@stephenmurray2851]

Comes with dlc

[@cht473]

This looks more like a graphics mod made by some fans than an official graphics upgrade. The change of art direction feels weird. Maybe it is because I've never played this game, but in most of the comparisons I prefer the look of the original game.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Nah, most of us fans seem to feel the same.

[@earnistse4899]

Ratchet and clank running native 4k 40 fps WITH ray tracing and amazing graphical fidelity just proves these other devs really aren’t trying with ps5 and series x optimization.

[@gellister]

This makes the Witcher 3 next gen update look downright smooth in terms of transition. I hope virtuous is given time to and does make better quality patches hereafter Even with a VRR display I am not really on board with this visual upgrade (mostly) having so many issues.

[@antonkirilenko3116]

The Witcher 3 next gen had gameplay enhancements, ray tracing and was free.

[@varno6793]

@@antonkirilenko3116 Yep. Are we really all that surprised Take Two/Private Division would put in a low-cost effort, in an attempt for a quick cash grab?

[@gellister]

You both make very good points. I had forgotten the Witcher patch being free for some reason.

[@AlphaladZXA]

Did they ever fix the performance all this time later

[@crispianchealuks2024]

I'm sure Microsoft is keeping a close eye on the Spacer's Choice, especially on feedback from gamers. Private Division's decision to release this rushed upgrade has potentially damaged The Outer Worlds and Obsidian's brands and might result in lost profits for The Outer Worlds 2.

[@jjnet123]

They don't care because gamepass will sell the game regardless

[@YouTubeCensors]

Yup, it's creating Bad PR for a mostly well liked game.

[@yomamasohot6411]

@@jjnet123 Maybe you should start by convincing Phil spencer first

[@eq7161]

I don't think they care that much lol

[@jlhamilt]

I think the original release did plenty to damage their brand.

[@kuewinger4206]

- 1:25 I swear I though the "new" image is the update, wtf? Why does it look worse to me when on the Ps5 version?

[@l3xforever]

Spacer’s Choice is when mods go wrong

[@captiosus9753]

I bought the upgrade only because the Game Pass version was upgradeable for DLC owners despite their repeated claims we’d have to own both. I’ve already gone back to the original. I personally don’t think the graphical upgrades are that great. Colors are oversaturated, contrast is too high with no HDR to help balance it out, they made it too flashy by adding items like bright neon signs in places they didn’t exist before. NPC faces have a plastic, almost cel shaded look to them now. Losing $10 is no big deal but I regret giving them any money for this. They should be giving US money for being their QA department. It’s just a shame Obsidian is being dragged for this (just look at the comments here) when they had nothing to do with it. At all. This was a port outsourced to Virtuos Games by Private Division to make one final cash grab before they lose the publishing license.

[@tessaN64]

so its outer worlds in mexico

[@leoni7649]

mundos exteriores

[@heyojayo8642]

This is why you get the OG team to do the upgrade NOT some 2-bit studio hustling for work.

[@Kingslayer474]

Obsidian had absolutely nothing to do with this version of the game. Private division, their publisher, decided to do this before they lose access to the IP as MS now owns Obsidian. It was their last effort at a cash grab before losing their grip on Obsidian forever. Truly a-shame that Obsidian gets all the blame for this.

[@TheBean87]

@@Kingslayer474the person stated that.

[@Kingslayer474]

@@TheBean87 it wasn’t clear if they knew this or not based on the context provided. They could have thought Obsidian out sourced it somewhere else or something along those lines instead of knowing that Obsidian had nothing to do with it.

[@TheBean87]

@@Kingslayer474 I thought it was clear but I could see where you are coming from.

[@1lichfield]

Never played Outer worlds.. this upgrade made me think maybe now's the time..but I think I'll save my money. Thanks DF.

[@LiquidSpartan117]

Was this fixed at all?

[@GoofyGoober6694]

Yes

[@guser7137]

I would like to hear/understand the reasoning behind changing the colour temperature. It seems pointless, not unlike most the vids of people running reshader against titles. Seems colour temperature and bloom adjustments get done 'just because'.

[@Cliff537]

Isn’t an upgrade supposed to be an improvement? I feel like a lot of these next-gen upgrades are super hit or miss nowadays.

[@NeoTechni]

Did they fix the original? It crashes every few minutes on my PS5. I have to save every 2 minutes if I wanted to keep any progress, and eventually I just gave up.

[@XGlite015]

Now this is how you make an older version look good.

[@Arcona]

Not really.

[@overdev1993]

is it just me or does the upgrade just looks much brighter and the colors more similar which results in a really flat image?

[@sugarbait]

The music is out of this world.

[@SuperKillJoy15]

Did they fix the clouds bobbing as you walk? The real question

[@seraaron]

it looks so much worse in almost every way. I was initially annoyed that they wanted $10 for this, but now I'm glad that it's not free so it's not forced on my install, frankly.

[@BenPisarik]

Would my VRR display help with this? I have no idea what it does

[@SnazzyAI]

It's really baffling that someone greenlit it being called "The Spacer's Choice" edition. Like, whoever made that decision either hadn't played the game, or did, and didn't grasp why that would be funny. It's even more ironic that it's a somewhat hamfisted remaster with a frustrating upgrade path (also locking out transferring saves). I honestly feel bad for Obsidian who clearly had nothing to do with this. Happy to see Outer Worlds 2 being 100% an Xbox Studios game.

[@HalfpennyTerwilliger]

No save transfer seems like a huge drawback. Thanks for mentionning it as I wouldn't have even considered they would go this route.

[@cormoran2303]

@@HalfpennyTerwilliger The funny thing about that is on PC you can MANUALLY transfer your savegame. So it works, they just didn't want to implement it.

[@ThomasVvV]

"Like, whoever made that decision either hadn't played the game, or did, and didn't grasp why that would be funny" This is exactly what happens if Microsoft buys your company

[@alexlyster3459]

@@ThomasVvV This upgraded edition was all Private Division, nothing to be with Xbox, Obsidian or MS

[@SnazzyAI]

@@ThomasVvV this remaster had nothing to do with Microsoft or Obsidian. It was done by Private Division which is part of Activision. However, Outer Worlds 2 will be a Microsoft Game Studios game.

[@Paneka_]

Old version looks way better. New version is all red and foggy. The colourful look is completely gone.

[@obredaanps3]

One of the worst updates ever. Purchased the $10 upgrade and only played for 10 minutes. The frame rate drops in the opening sequence are just too distracting. Uninstalled for the moment and very frustrated at the waste of money on this awful update. Also its ridiculous that you can't import your save from previous gen.

[@PotatoJonson]

Has the frame issue been fixed now?

[@StrengthScholar0]

They went way too crazy with the post-processing.

[@Rhino1931]

Eh, I don’t mind the changes too much. Was just playing on PS5 and I haven’t noticed any performance issues as of the most recent version.

[@Kwotzi]

the original looks much better to me. the new version looks like it has a ton of light bleed and those kinds of "glowing" places that should be in shadow

[@ChaoticNewtRule]

Improvements to the game should always be an addition. Something that complements the original. But in stead subtracting and replacing features which change the game on a fundamental level is not the way to go. This game does *not* benefit from "higher res" textures which in stead ruin the styled and painterly look of the game. In stead of denser grass which hits performance on consoles for no reason I'm sure people would have much better preferred more powerful AO solutions or SSR in higher framerate modes albeit with a lower output quality. The heavy volumetrics at 6:35 render any additional effects useless. There is no longer tiny debris flying past to suggest this is actually dust and not in stead some green smog and the large rocky shape in the distance has had the smoke it emits removed entirely. The only change I've seen in this footage which could be considered an additive improvement would be the emissive lights in interiors seemingly having better casting upon surrounding structures but that was all.

[@1984dannz]

Be interesting, I wanna see if this game actually works Edit, not a worth upgrade to me, could do a lot better. Missing shadows, more fog and no ray tracing. I'll stick to the original.

[@MR_IceBlood]

The old vision runs way better

[@1984dannz]

​@@MR_IceBlood seems so. Missed opportunity.

[@SetsuneW]

I'm tired of remasters messing with the original art direction. I understand lighting in particular can not always be recreated 1:1 between generations, especially with new technologies, but in this case it seems deliberately changed just to make it feel newer.

[@tomkirbygreen]

I know this will get me into huge trouble, but within reason I’d always choose art over frame rate in a single player experience, especially if there’s a strong narrative dimension.

[@MarioGoatse]

You’re right! You’re actually under arrest for that. Please put your hands behind your back, sir.

[@zues287]

I'll generally agree with you if, and this is a big if, the frame-rate is consistent. Stuttering, inconsistent frame-rate and frame pacing is extremely distracting. Although I generally play on a highish end PC, so I'm used to 60-165fps, I can eventually get used to 30fps in a slow paced, narrative, single player game. I CAN'T get used to the stuttering.

[@mikem2253]

To an extent. 30 fps looks terrible on my OLED. It has to be 60 minimum or else camera pans destroy image fluidity.

[@ThomasVvV]

There are soooo many great games that are 30fps

[@HCIbn]

Another “I’m okay playing at 30fps in 2023 player”

[@techknow9237]

Just got a 44.36GB update today on XBSX. Hopefully this update fixes the concerning issues ?

[@jmi_music]

No analysis of the loading??? The worst thing about this game for me by far (aside from the ps4 fan noise) was the long loading screens between bits of the town. Especially if you wait for it to load, realise you went the wrong way, load back, go to the other door, wait for it to load again, realise that you were actually right the first time, load back, then go back to the original door and wait for it to load. I stopped playing it.

[@manuzark]

What analysis you expect from loading? The new version will be on a SSD with plenty of experience that will be very fast, that’s not the point of the video, if not the FPS downgrades and performance issues

[@jmi_music]

@@manuzark I would like to see how much faster it loads. I don't expect anything.

[@ryancbarrett96]

Is there an extra charge for PC?

[@usernamefromhell]

I don't think it looks better, at all, it just looks different.

[@helluva9064]

Pc left out of the last 2 games with big pc issues. This and Wo Long?

[@winj3r]

Private Division probably outsourced this "upgrade" to the lowest bidder.

[@2runplayz]

Wasnt there yesterday not a new update about performance?

[@L0sB0ys]

they changed the vibe o the game so much, i don't know if i like it

[@YourTaciturnFriend]

I'm glad they cut out that "glowing left ear" all the characters had, due to a back light shining through the cartilege of their left ear. They were so proud of the tech too! But it was too heavy-handed.

[@TwinOpinion]

I appreciate the new graphical features, but the implementation damages the art direction imo. Just doesn't look as pleasing to me, and the performance is very disappointing. Is a stable 60fps experience too much to ask for in 2023? How about a 40fps mode for 120hz displays? This was a SWING and a BIG MISS. edit- Just made it to the end. This is just BAD. This will potentially damage Outer Worlds as a long term IP. Never should have released this version.

[@matthewjohnson1891]

Glad they took out every npc's single glowing ear. That bugged me to no end.

[@jmi_music]

“4 years on from the original release of the outer worlds…” Excuse me, what? Gulp.

[@raresmacovei8382]

Eh, it's 3.5 years.

[@heart_of_a_daedra3649]

@@raresmacovei8382 not even 3.5 yet either!

[@raresmacovei8382]

@@heart_of_a_daedra3649 True.

[@chrishansmatthews6260]

I think fps and resolution are being put above texture and effects too much in general, easier for the general public to understand but I feel its somewhat holding back graphics

[@Kingslayer474]

Obsidian had absolutely nothing to do with this version of the game. Private division, their publisher, decided to do this before they lose access to the IP as MS now owns Obsidian. It was their last effort at a cash grab before losing their grip on Obsidian forever. Truly a-shame that Obsidian gets all the blame for this.

[@TheBean87]

Well people aren’t bright and don’t research anything.

[@Kingslayer474]

@@TheBean87 true

[@mandrews6282]

I definitely noticed a significant visual change between Performance and Cinemaric mode that seemed well beyond what DF had outlined here. Especially lighting, shadows, and volumetric effects. It was so significant that I initially thought they were using RT shadows, or something, in Cinematic Mode. Unless the change to ambient occlusion effects the visuals this much, I am surprised there wasn’t more said here.

[@hairy_cornflake]

I hate the oversaturated look, it just ruins the style of the original release and just look like somebody pushed the contrast to some horrible levels.

[@MrMightyZ]

It’s absolutely fine on XSX if you have VRR. (Performance wise. I hadn’t noticed the other drawbacks but I had thought it looked a little better and less “papery” overall. The original looked like a diorama made of painted paper maché to me but now looks a bit more solid and better lit)

[@ramiking745]

Oof, I’m not digging some of the lighting and artistic choices made in the update. Also, the fact that this sort of breaks the frame rate and pacing of the previous version is not great.

[@SalveMonesvol]

1) Not even 1080p30 in series S is unacceptable. 2) No 1440p 40fps in PS1 "cinematic" mode is a wasted opportunity. 3) Series X should have enough grunt for 1920*1620 @60fps maxed out.

[@eliotwildermann]

Wow wut happened to the character models they were good before now there well I'm not sure 🤔

[@maxjensenjames9622]

If the upgrade was free I think the reception would of been different (free and without the performance issues ruining game play for some) 10 months on now and spacers choice is on sale. I've been playing the standard on games pass on my series S not that far into the game and I really like it so im considering this upgrade and purchasing the game for myself. As i don't want games pass forever. Especially since no new titles or anything exciting (for me) have come lately. So I was considering cancelling it and buying this especially it's on sale. But I'm now apprehensive due to the reception and not knowing if those issues have now been fixed 10 months on. Any advice?

[@nsanepolarbear]

Did you ever grab it. I'm in the exact same situation as you were. If you went with, how'd it go?

[@Speedkomodo]

Such a shame. The upgrade that isn't an upgrade... and it isnt even free.

[@mmo5366]

I never got around to playing this one, so was looking forward to the new edition... but I guess i'll wait a bit longer anyway

[@adamkallin5160]

Console gamers getting a taste of PC style optimization 😔

[@joey199412]

This feels like 2006-2009 when everything had to have excessive bloom and brown smeared out filters to drown out all color to make things seem "realistic". Not a good look.