The “Outside Child” & the Betrayed Spouse Confront The Past | Family Empire: Houston | OWN

A long-buried family secret is unearthed, igniting a confrontation that spans generations. LaKeshia finally gets the opportunity to confront her sister's mom about being the “outside child.”
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[@Ateyaaa]

I would love for the MOM to be honest and say YES, I was angry, YES, I didn't know how to deal with it back then, but we can now, and I AM SORRY. I would've loved her to say THE REAL TRUTH.

[@sheetmaskbabe]

Never ever gonna happen, especially not from a boomer.

[@lisaakamommy1287]

I feel that is all Keisha is looking for so she can move forward

[@amparks51]

Exactly! The truth is what she is looking for because it will bring her validation for all the years she felt unwanted. They are forgetting that she was the child. The mother’s hurt is valid too but the time to express that pain as a mother and wife needed to be directed at her husband, not allow the children to be negatively affected.

[@MindsetOfMarge]

This!!!!!!!

[@Chakras.N.Chasers]

Why though? Her father is the one who needs to take accountability. She talking about the kids are hurt. Girl what?! Your mom slept with a married man knowingly. Unacceptable. The wife has nothing to apologize for yet she’s still doing and acknowledging her pain. Smh.

[@ThaRealShante]

Oh brother....where the damn daddy because its his fault.

[@babygirl0806]

That’s the same question I wanted to ask.

[@jsmnyoung19]

He died but she still didn't get any answer from him

[@ThatDapGirl]

@@jsmnyoung19 he ain’t dead. He gonna be in the next episode talking crazy…

[@MichelleLuvn25]

@@jsmnyoung19he ain’t dead he’s very much alive😂😂😂

[@tyrasworld5675]

This

[@weja1966]

As a step mom there is no way I would have allowed the child to be treated differently. Saying I wasn’t angry at you but still separating the child from her siblings shows different….

[@tomaradoss3420]

Absolutely, my thing is , if you keep the man , you should embrace the child. Otherwise leave his behind.

[@strick25ray4]

She needs to just admit that she mistreated that child!!

[@joyhairston-white737]

@@strick25ray4 Exactly

[@jacquelynworlds3178]

how did she mistreat her cause, she never gave an example.

[@jasminegreene8159]

Im sorry but the outside child will never be treated the same as the children that came from the marriage. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. This is why we as adults have to make sure we don’t make decisions that will curse our children. Her mother and father was wrong, she wasn’t conceived in love, she was conceived in an affair. And this is the result”

[@jajo8573]

@@jasminegreene8159 WTF are you talking about the dad was messing around with two women at the same time, both of them got pregnant at the same time they weren’t married

[@jajo8573]

⁠@@jasminegreene8159 If she wasn’t conceived in love Nicole wasn’t conceived in love either

[@joannfelters8198]

The mom clearly should not be addressing Keisha, the child who had nothing to do with her conception. I agree with Nicole! 🤗🤗🤗

[@RBrown0814]

She NOT “outside” cause the dad was NOT MARRIED to either GIRLFRIEND

[@kandybraden6331]

We don't know if Keisha's mommy probably left Bubba and Joy was Bubba's next option because she was pregnant also. So Bubba then married Joy. Because Keisha's mommy didn't want him after finding out Joy was pregnant too. Y'all ever thought about that 😊 Keisha's mommy probably was Bubba's first choice but she didn't want him after finding Joy was also pregnant too. I'm just saying. Remember Jackie said if the tables were turned she would have done the same for Nicole too. ??? Think people THINK!

[@shereeross4049]

Bubba was slanging that thang everywhere

[@SiedahDenise]

@@kandybraden6331It’s a high probability that is what happened. Some men abandon their responsibilities as a father once the mother makes it clear he no longer has access to her emotionally or physically. It’s clear from his actions he had no plans on being a present father bc he never took the initiative to make sure he was part of Keisha’s life. Shout out to Aunt Jackie and the other aunts for standing in the gaps!

[@SiedahDenise]

@@shereeross4049Like Evelyn Braxton would say, laying it low and spreading it wide

[@jacquelynsmith6876]

If he was married .. the child is not outside.. its equally his child like the rest of his kids !!

[@user-zj4nt2ob5h]

Children are just as hurt as adults, but adults do what they want and children just roll with it! No one asks the children are they ok.

[@babygirl0806]

I agree

[@sunnyt264]

This. My dad had a child with another woman while married to my mom. They stuck it out but my sister is just like I didn’t ask for this foolishness

[@francesbatchelor8454]

Facts!!!!

[@RVince-so5vg]

‼️‼️‼️

[@whyme8580]

Whole facts

[@musicneurons7807]

I keep searching for a clip where Miss Joy seems wise and likable. Ill let you know when i gind it 😂.

[@nataliesasha8216]

The mom messy for even I twisting that convo. Leave that to the dad, who created the mess, to confront.

[@KMarieA]

he was never married to anyone so im confused on how she was his spouse. she was just the girlfriend who decided to stay with her cheating boyfriend.

[@g.pearson4726]

Different states have different laws Some states recognize common law marriages So the years count as marriage legally

[@Glamoorus]

💯 In the preview for the next show, the dad says the same thing: he had 2 girlfriends. So Joy was just an aspiring wife at the time of conception.

[@ShannonLewis-ti7ft]

EXACTLY. She should’ve left him alone if she couldn’t embrace the child tf. No self respect

[@kandybraden6331]

How we don't know Keisha mommy didn't want to be with Bubba because she found out Joy was pregnant too. Keisha's mommy probably left Bubba, and Joy wanted Bubba so Bubba just stayed with her, because she was pregnant, Keisha's mommy probably didn't want him anymore. Who knows. Only Bubba knows what really went down!

[@LadyC285]

Yall nasty .. so outside of marriage, people's relationships are invalid? And that excuses a cheating ? Get a grip

[@shavonlyons5965]

She is still bitter from her man having another girlfriend and another child. Even his own sisters said that he wasn't married and that he had two girlfriends, and that lady still isn't over the past and is taking it out on Keisha

[@d.chatford3188]

When he said I wasn't married to nobody (paraphrasing) the one Auntie said 'Tell her THAT' cause baby she said that with her soul

[@FallnAngel07]

What bothers me is that the kids are hurt, the mothers are hurt and the father/husband isn't there. He caused all of this.

[@ShannonLewis-ti7ft]

The momma hurt because she’s STUPID

[@tyrasworld5675]

This

[@PraiseAlways777]

That father of her's was and is very immature, he allowed it

[@ladybugbrack2834]

Exactly! Where is the Father?

[@ron1183]

Because he did it.

[@ShannonLewis-ti7ft]

So is the step mom 😂

[@Myopinionmattersthemost]

This woman decided to stay with a cheating boyfriend and eventually married him. The dad is piss poor and so is his wife. Treating children differently due to marital status is trash behavior.

[@QueenCricket121]

The main thing is she wants a relationship with her sisters but it’s difficult because she feels rejected by their mother. I wish she’d focus on building the relationship with the sisters instead of finding acceptance with their mom.

[@fjones5890]

The step mom wrong as hell, let Keisha and her father address this. All she did was confirm her messiness in the situation. Stop trying to clear your name, that never works. Keisha look tired of the bs fr 😂

[@LakeishaYoung-jg9lk]

You can see it in her face

[@carmimoultrie1448]

I have seen the extreme pain that infidelity causes on a family especially when a child is the product of the offense. Very traumatizing to all involved because of selfish, foolish, and narcissistic decisions.

[@Myopinionmattersthemost]

The dad had 2 girlfriends, he knocked them both up. The one mamma decided to stay with the cheater and eventually marry him. There was no infidelity.

[@ariamason9324]

But this wasn't infidelity..he was sleeping around and probably has more children out there. I don't understand why they keep going back and forth about that man, he doesn't give a hoot who he impregnate.

[@daphnechavis1092]

The mother didn't like the fact that you were born, and she show is with you.

[@d3moore100]

Where is the father at to resolve this amongst them?

[@jenniferg6493]

The real question.

[@Talk2thahand24]

Probably somewhere laid up with someone else.....😅

[@joyhairston-white737]

@@Talk2thahand24🤣🤣🤣 who was around at that time and just didn’t get pregnant

[@Glamoorus]

​@@Talk2thahand24😄

[@RVince-so5vg]

He was in the last episode. 📢 Uncle Bubba

[@smitty5641]

She's so beautiful all made up in the confessional!

[@sunnymarie2060]

I MEEEAN!! SHE is striking in the confessionals

[@tyrasworld5675]

She is beautiful

[@destinythomas5537]

IF YOU TAKE BACK THE CHEATING MAN THEN WHY NOT ACCEPT THE CHILD????

[@misjuiceefroot]

Period. Cause the child is 100% innocent.

[@destinythomas5537]

@@misjuiceefroot I never understood treating the babies like crap but still trying to think highly of your husband who disgraced you

[@kimkeller2983]

@@destinythomas5537 But….that wasn’t her husband, he was just the boyfriend….so technically, she’s NOT an outside child 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@destinythomas5537]

@@kimkeller2983 fair enough!!

[@Talk2thahand24]

The amount of scorned woman condoning it it scary. The things ppl do to keep away man is crazy. If you can show that man Grace than surely you SHOULD be able to extend grace to an innocent child. She didn't sleep with the daddy to make herself. Its so weird how ppl think it's OK for her to be the one wrong because of how she feels when the facts are....she was treated differently and separated from her siblings! The weak a$$ excuses don't matter, take accountability!

[@ECook-he4kk]

If I forgave my cheating boyfriend then later married him why not accept the child. I believe Kiesha that woman did treat her some type of way. She nice nasty to her now.

[@GriselDaBlanco100]

This clip has me very very interested - I think I have a new show to watch. Thanks!

[@mamiecollins9761]

Chile she done told somebody they didn’t have to stay with their husband. 😮

[@simplyjuani]

They weren’t married. She is correct on that and also that the children should not have been affected!

[@anitaneal1779]

@@simplyjuani Why would you think children wouldn’t be affected?

[@smitty5641]

@anitaneal1779 she said they SHOULDN'T have been affected as in: it's not the kids' fault, and they should have been allowed to be in each other's lives from the jump without any of this outside child mess. He was cheating on both women with each other!

[@anitaneal1779]

@@smitty5641 Yeah, because that’s how these things typically work out when a cheating spouse brings home a baby! LOL

[@smitty5641]

@@anitaneal1779 Spouse? No. They were not married when she was conceived. They said that they LATER settled down

[@lifewk]

Nah y’all are weird for expecting Keisha to put her very valid feelings aside for the sake of the adults in the situation. Why is it so hard for them to just embrace her?

[@tianarussell728]

I’ve been In this same situation and Trust me it hurt like hell… but that baby is 16 now and still calls me mom I never treated her funny when them kids got older they pieced it together

[@TheIntrovert83]

I hate when they say 1/2 Half. No! You are my Brother/Sister. I dont do that Half Shxt! 👎👎👎

[@cookiecuteasapuppy1008]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯… what you said.. especially in the black home…I have a sister that’s the oldest out of five and she shares her own father. We was raised as we are sisters and brother… the half word was never spoken 💯

[@arneliashort4647]

I feel the same way.

[@FreeSpiritInGod]

I used to see it like this especially with the ones who came out of the same womb as me but now Im halfn’ tf out them.

[@FavoredE]

It’s technicalities. Its facts, take your emotions out of it. 😂

[@Farfar3881]

Yea. In my black family that’s prohibited. You’re my sibling, end of discussion.

[@user-tq5mx4et9v]

So I understand both sides. At the end of the day she was the innocent child in this situation. But we have to move forward now from this pain.

[@gennetriley785]

Black family at it's finest 😅😅😅😅. Uncle Bubba was a cheater and y'all the results 😊

[@joyhairston-white737]

While he walking around ain’t saying nothing

[@yumaohunttel9836]

The mother did take it out on her. She still mad at her. Within conception. But joyce stayedd,

[@lovelysunflower5782]

It wasn’t her place to even mention a blood test. That was the fathers decision. Also, they should have let their mom and keisha speak. The energy changed as soon as they walked up and took over their convo.

[@Glamoorus]

Yes, I think Nicole and her other sister should've sat this one out.

[@tyrasworld5675]

Yup

[@Sunshine134chick]

This is very triggering for me I can relate to this so much 😢😢😢😢😢❤feeling like an outsider

[@Lenasevilla-yb4ei]

Blame your mama

[@anyabonnette4169]

@@Lenasevilla-yb4eiNo it’s not “blame your momma”… it’s no fault of the her mother or my mother, it’s the responsibility of the man. He was deceitful and dishonest. He caused chaos and mayhem and escapes being held accountable. Until you deal with this type of suffering, you can’t fully speak on it. I’m still trying to heal from this situation. Please tell me why someone should have to heal for how they came into existence. This episode is very triggering. It hurts because no child should deal with this.

[@anyabonnette4169]

I totally agree with you, it broke my heart.

[@Lenasevilla-yb4ei]

@@anyabonnette4169 no yall momma gotta keep their closed until they properly vet these men. How do ppl just have babies without knowing truly knowing somebody??? No marriage no longevity just legs open and unprotected smh. Thank god for my upbringing

[@MrsKeiMrsKei]

Keisha just vents an “I’m sorry.” No excuses or explanations. Just acknowledgment of how she felt.

[@caramelc21]

The mother looks evil, bitter, and spiteful!

[@sunnymarie2060]

Im with Nicole. We got to move on at some point because i feel like no matter the adults say she wont be healed from just their words.

[@lisaakamommy1287]

I think she just wants her feelings validated, she wants an apology and a lets build from here on

[@Ty-rj7mc]

Ion care the mom didn’t and probably still doesn’t care for Keisha because of who her mom is! Keisha’s mom wasn’t with him anymore but who’s to say Joy was the woman he really wanted to be with! She could have left

[@Missabra24]

I think she should’ve just apologized for not being mature at that time and promised to do better.

[@sabrinabanza1626]

The mother didn't have to stay!, she accepted that man after ge had a kid on her. So, she should accept his child also!. Simple

[@rochelleharden50]

I hate the term “OUTSIDE CHILD”. It’s hurtful and stigmatizing the child as if she did something wrong. That woman isn’t being 100% honest when she said she wasn’t mad.

[@danijones819]

is it an outside child if the man was not married

[@delle3955]

I think that’s what a big question in all of this. I think it all depends on if folks were upfront about their dealings and if they were in a committed/monogamous.

[@smitty5641]

Exactly

[@misslori9725]

YES😂

[@naebrown542]

No Mam

[@ResearchXProject2016]

Nope! 😂😂

[@shee2muchh533]

So go talk to your mother and father. This lady owed that man everything he got, the poor child just unfortunately had to witness it.

[@danimiller3648]

No child should be penalized for a parent being trashy. Ever. It is hard on borh sides, but, the child is innocent.

[@tomaradoss3420]

Mom just say , you were a reminder of what my man did to me. Right you chose to stay, so you knew I came with him. Never the less, Nicole is right let’s move foward and create something new!

[@kimberlycriddle444]

It's unrealistic to expect to think the wife will be not angry. The Family needs consoling

[@kendraedmond3208]

They were married at the time

[@TheWinnie42]

She wasn’t a wife

[@madworld5511]

Wait she told her father’s wife she should have left if she didn’t like the situation wow🤣😂

[@shannon6120]

This because she wasn't her father's wife at the time. Listening skills are critical.

[@shawnee1881]

It is unrealistic of her to think that lady was just supposed to accept her despite the hurt inflicted on her own heart by that level of betrayal and seeing the fruit of that betrayal.

[@ijahsmith8781]

How?! She just said she accepted the child when her husband cheated and it wasn’t towards her YEt you say different.. either you saying she lit or please hush! 😅

[@klove6149]

Yeah...i agree..no matter what she's says...who wouldn't be hurt by THAT

[@shawnee1881]

@ijahsmith8781 girl she's lying. And don't tell me to hush. Which woman wouldn't be hurt and upset by the emergence of a child birthed by another person and their spouse/partner? She is only now saying that she accepted her so as not to face backlash.

[@fayeburkley]

That’s one of the hardest things for a woman to go through Selfishness is how people play victim Spoken from a woman who had a child by a man that was just “getting ready to get married” (definitely wasn’t married when my son was born), the outside child(ren) creates conflict in the marriage and makes it hard for the wounded spouse to move forward. Even God told Abraham that his first son (with a woman outside of his marriage) wasn’t his promise child Right is right

[@yolandiacurtis7997]

Sounds crazy because she still accepted her man...

[@shereeross4049]

The mom didn't want the aunt bring Keisha to the aunt own house

[@Urlifebymike]

She WAS NOT HIS SPOUSE!!!!!!

[@maryarmstead9921]

My step mom said she loved me from day one when she looked at me and she ask my dad was I his and he said yes.

[@chosentowin1940]

What the hell!!! Is this woman serious??? She thinks this is the right time to have this conversation. Why not meet with her separately?

[@kayekaye08]

That’s deep

[@andreajohnson7344]

He wasn't married to they mom or hers

[@Myopinionmattersthemost]

Joyce chose to stay with no good Bubba.

[@tyrasworld5675]

This episode: i didnt have a problem with you. Next episode: She aint even want the FAMILY to bring her around....which is it?

[@kreativelysi2968]

Hurtful and sad. They wanna move on but the person that is hurting can't heal because they keep hurting her. I stopped watching this show from episode 2. This family is too full of themselves and hurtful.

[@constancenikiwe4145]

Where is Keisha's mother's side of the family this family is not forced to accept her

[@shannon6120]

Whaaaaaaat

[@eshaandthingz]

Mr.bubba wasnt married to neither women he was hunching on both women and she forgave him and married her. She just in her feelings

[@brooklynforever1990]

So sad 😞

[@jeangriffin6051]

She crazy yes ma'am I would have been angry too if my husband went out and had an outside child with another woman this young lady needs to understand how hurtful that can be even though she may not have had anything to do with it but it's still a hurtful situation

[@ToiRob]

She wasn’t married to Bubba at the time he was Single and had 2 girlfriends pregnant at the same time. If you stayed and married him after all that hurt then why act ignorant to the innocent child🙄

[@lelelum4103]

How have they never had a 1 on 1 talk?? That’s kind of weird

[@sheilaingram1958]

The dad should have stepped up and he didn’t…she should have gotten a DNA test on her own kids.

[@amberdelaney4240]

I'm tired of Lakeisha's victim mentality. She should have the same energy for the dad and confront him. This same discussion is getting played out!

[@shamioshi]

but didn't the MOM start this discussion? Why blame Kisha? Also...people who are unhealed can just "let go". She needs to heal and that's hard when people deny your experience.

[@smitty5641]

How do you know that she didn't confront him off camera? The mom pulled her aside anyway

[@Beautyroom300]

She is the victim of this particular circumstance.

[@amberdelaney4240]

This lady is almost 40 years old. If she's still upset about the situation, then she should choose peace and keep her distance from the family. She talks about this every episode. I'm in agreeance with her sister it's time to move on.

[@amberdelaney4240]

@shamioshi It doesn't matter who initiated the conversation. Lakeisha has talked about this every episode. At this point, what else do we know about her.

[@brandiquick8465]

The outside child favors the step mom

[@TheodoreBakes]

Yep

[@ThatDapGirl]

@@brandiquick8465 please stop referring to her as an outside child. This man was not married and had 2 women he was messing with pregnant at the same time. They’re a few months apart. Then Nicole’s mom decided to marry this man, but didn’t want to accept his child and clearly he didn’t gaf to protect his child. He chose to be a deadbeat and this is the result.

[@brandiquick8465]

@@ThatDapGirl I didn't mean any disrespect. They do favor I just watched this clipped not the show

[@HolmesMolly]

Davis Ruth Rodriguez Brenda Clark Edward

[@apriljoy425]

If the Father didn’t bring her around that says it all. She was his wife she didn’t and really doesn’t have to embrace her. Telling her she didn’t have to stay was insensitive. Be mad at your parents they created this mess.

[@re_re_cee]

No ma’am they were not married at the time. She married him even after knowing there was another woman and baby

[@apriljoy425]

@@ResearchXProject2016 Sounds like they were in a committed relationship. If he told her about the child and wanted to continue to make it work with her. I heard they got married after this though.

[@apriljoy425]

@@re_re_cee Ppl move on from cheating sometimes. They apparently decided to and decided to marry EACH other.Its his child and he should have made sure his family knew her. Not the sister. It’s not this lady’s issue. Honestly I would never have sat down with her . That’s between her Father and her mother to do.🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ResearchXProject2016]

@@apriljoy425 Yeah, he wanted to make it work with the women he was living with at the time and wanted nothing to do with the child that came from his infidelity. He’s trash.

[@strick25ray4]

She wasn’t his WIFE either!!

[@bellydancer3146]

Then tell ya mama to stop bringing it up then.

[@MindsetOfMarge]

I wish they would not have walked up in their conversation 🙄

[@Chakras.N.Chasers]

She should have this convo with her father. Not the woman who endured the heartbreak.

[@shannon6120]

Lmao she is grown woman what heart ache???? She married the fool and lives the life she wants. Enough with the victim BS.

[@Estrellitawilliams]

So she’s upset that the family member brought the “outside’ child around ?

[@daniellemcdonald891]

Wow

[@LaMamanDeNayou]

The mom dont have to accept you its not her job its your dad should of did that.

[@tonyarison1503]

She kept accepting the man that went and made Keisha

[@strick25ray4]

If she accepted the man back then she she accepted the child. He wasn’t married to her as well! So she isn’t an outside child.

[@LaMamanDeNayou]

@@strick25ray4 so whats the problem

[@strick25ray4]

@@LaMamanDeNayou what do you mean what’s the problem??

[@LaMamanDeNayou]

@@strick25ray4 they were not married & not an outside child so whats the problem ?

[@teniawicks8335]

How is she taking it on Keisha...

[@teniawicks8335]

I wouldn't have mistreated the child cause the father would have left...

[@MichelleJones-z7b]

Harris Scott Garcia Melissa Jackson Richard

[@teniawicks8335]

Yeah I'm the cheated on and nope...can't have a relationship without the other mom being involved so yeah absolutely not that's all

[@4TopNotchEmpress]

A lot of times, men wreak havoc and women are left with the residual burden of dealing with emotions. The wife is not at fault. She was dealing with her own hurt as well and probably wanted to stay in the marriage so that her kids would have a 2 parent household.

[@officialyellowchocolate]

They were not married Both women we’re just his f buddies

[@leslieboozer7529]

I would have just left the relationship. I’m not dealing with an outside child

[@aaroncohoon5603]

The dad is alive and well guys he was the uncle in the first episode 😂I don’t know how yall missed that lol smh

[@shonDonFH]

She does not have to accept Keisha… her own daddy said it. End of story