The Overdue Review! The Rdunae "6105-8000" from WR Watches

[@mrdisco99]

Seiko is not interested in making accessible tool watches anymore. The money is in limited edition overbuilt blingy homages to old tool watches now. The SKX007 was the last of its kind.

[@mrbacchus6127]

I miss the days of when I started collecting watches. $200 Monsters and $150 skx007

[@Horologique]

Sadly you are right. My Skx007, SARB033 and SARB017 are the last of their kind

[@theleastsignificantbit4794]

In ten years Seiko will release a limited edition SNK809 with a crap movement and ill-proportioned from $3K. I’m done with Seiko.

[@diddleysquat4543]

Weird, I was having a very similar conversation only the other night about Seiko not getting it, and how Rdunae managed to produce a "Grandfather" tuna which I got on eBay for around $230 including shipping which is EVERYTHING I could hope for and more, but I had always felt a teeny bit of a fraud in having got one as it wasn't the "real thing" but now Spencer Klein has basically given them his seal of approval, whoah, no stopping me now! This review by Spencer somehow makes them legitimate. Yay!

[@andrewbarnes5802]

Love this watch and whi,St I've got more expensive watches, this is my daily driver. Feels so comfortable and love the attention to detail on this homage.

[@johntocho8954]

Just WOW...Seiko should have made this! Could have called it the Seiko Heritage Line. Thanks Spencer!

[@machinistmikethetinkerer4827]

All my years being a Seiko guy but they've been sticking it to us for years. Over 35 years ago while deployed we stopped in Japan and it was like a different watchworld over there. The Seikos offered over there are amazing. They still do this and all these years later I still dont know why.

[@thewristwatchexperience8153]

I haven't organised my thoughts because I'm so "holy crap about it". Many of us that love Seiko know exactly what you mean :)

[@nemorinoeso7581]

If Spencer gave a chinese Seiko hommage green light I feel literally authorized to buy one too :-)

[@garyshepherd9226]

Or try the Steeldive - you will not regret it.

[@chuckw4203]

Gary Shepherd I’ve got two of the Steel Dive watches I’m impressed with what I received for the money...

[@nemorinoeso7581]

@@garyshepherd9226 Aren't you 'Seiko Shepherd' on Watchuseek forums?

[@garyshepherd9226]

@@nemorinoeso7581 No - not me.

[@mikeperkins7775]

@nemorinoESO go for it, zero regrets with my Tuna I bought from WR Watches, great product and great communication

[@Takeo2011]

I ordered this from WR and received it super fast. I'm impressed with the watch and found a new favorite.

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Great to hear!

[@mattk04]

I'm as happy with my Heimdallr 6105-8110 as you are with that. Agree with others that Seiko looks to want their reissues to be luxury items rather than "tools".

[@hunterluxton5976]

You are correct on every level. It's a superb watch.

[@danlazer8762]

I am blown away by mine. Haven't taken it off my wrist since it got here a month ago. Can't stop looking at it.

[@finophile]

wow ... really, thankyou so much for this. As vexed as you are by Seiko (and trust me, I share that vexation) I'm exasperated with the youtube algo that its youtube taken until now to show me your video. I only learned about this 'homage' recently (like a week back) and had been pondering a [steel/addies]dives willard but wasn't totally convinced. I finally pulled the pin and then bam ... I find this watch! I bought it today (US$169) and am waiting for its arrival. OMG Your review fits exactly with my own evaluation of the watch on line (and I'm not even a watchmaker as you are, so that your points made me feel confident about my evaluation). This and your other review (which KZbin suggested before this?) are great. Thanks again so much for posting this, and I'm really sorry (as you mentioned the commentors being nutbags) you suffered that sort of inappropriate conduct. Thanks again and I'll be watching these two at least one more time. Best Wishes

[@garyyong1756]

Spencer because of your green light I’ve ordered one. Looking forward to receive the watch!! And Kok Wai, thank you for answering all of my questions!!

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@soggz4246]

I’m on a budget,because of life. I bought a version 2 of the Steeldive Willard,last year. It’s way better than the Seiko version,and after watching a KZbin vid on regulating,it is now at +2 seconds a day. Great review on these Chinese copies. Bang for buck,way better than Seiko. All the best.🇬🇧

[@Andrew.W75]

San Martin makes a 6105-8000 homage with a luminous Wave Off Kanagawa dial that looks very cool. It's soooo hard to find a 6105-8000 in decent condition at a reasonable price now, I think these homages are a good bet!

[@darkwingduckish]

Dear Spencer, I always appreciate your profound knowledge, and in my opinion you had the most accurate discussion of the 6105 compared to the Rdunae Homage, with real heart & soul :). Now Seiko is coming out of the woodwork, see SPB317! I know, kind of elaborate, but: could you do a comparison of the Seiko reissue with the original and the chinese version? That would be a great update to your first review! Thank you very much for all the knowledge shared!

[@johnnyjohnny7204]

all your points about frustrations with seiko for not doing this beautiful watch so fully respectful of the original, are absolutely correct. i doubt seiko cares, the stopped caring about QC on alignment, and don't care about accuracy on reissues, so i'm no longer a fan or customer, but as you...i appreciate these very carefully made and honorable reeditions/homages. thanks for the courage to speak your mind.

[@resjon7981]

After much consideration I have ordered the Rdunae 6105 8000 as its to good to ignore for someone who was about to buy an SPB317.

[@joncaradies3155]

I have a Steeldive and a couple of Heimdallr's from WR watches and they are amazing for the price !!!! I was putting on the Heimdallr Tuna one day and I dropped it from about 5 feet on to a brick floor . My first thought was 'Oh well , I'll just buy a new movement for it . I inspected the watch and it hit so hard that the applied logo came off and the hands were out of alignment . I opened it up to remove the logo and straitened the hands and with a tweek of the regulator , it's now running way within specs. to a couple of seconds a day .... I was amazed !!!!!

[@jeffwblack]

I've had a Heimdallr 6105-8110 homage since last fall. Great quality and very accurate NH35 movement. Seiko has really dropped the ball on quality control and value for money these days.

[@ichris2011]

I’ve seen these 6105 copies come up and always wondered what you’d make of one given your seriousness about the small details, amazing they got so much right. I think seiko is more interested in presenting a “luxury” item with their reissues than they are a faithful reimagining. A lot of the things seiko gets wrong I think are the result of their attempts at making the watch look “premium”.

[@leosheepman]

I'm pleased to say that in May 2023 my Rdunae arrived and it featured four pips either side of 12 on the bezel, and no blue tint on the AR coated sapphire. It seems Rdunae have listened to customer wants in a way almost no other manufacturer does and are committed to improving the authenticity to the original design. I now have a Seikosis dial on the way to make a homage which will be tough and inexpensive for use swimming, fishing etc! The build quality is indeed fantastic. Thank you for your two amazing reviews Spencer.

[@moboei]

@@leosheepmanlove to get an update on your mod. Iam thinking of buying this watch and modding it to

[@leosheepman]

@@moboei Hi, yes the watch build went well and I've worn it almost everyday since, despite having a few watches to choose from. I used the Seikosis dial from Ebay, and altered the lume colour on the original Rdunae hand set to match the dial lume colour which is a purer white (the Seikosis lume also has much less glow). I had to trim the dial feet and use adhesive to set the dial in place but it hasn't shifted (I used curved adhesive peel back strips made specifically for this, also from Ebay). The date window is very slightly further inset then the Rdunae date wheel so on dates with a double digit the alignment is off however it doesn't bother me. I have swam with it in the Mediterranean Sea while on holiday and it has held up well. I later got an Uncle Seiko bracelet which really completes the build and fits onto the Rdunae case straight from the factory with the end links supplied. I also had the chance to compare it with the Seiko spb317 reissue in a department store here in the UK recently and I must say I preferred my build to the newer Seiko with many changes from the original 1968 design. This build is very authentic in detail to the 6105 8000, cost very little and is robust, it turned out just how I wanted. Good luck with your own build!

[@stephenlack5831]

Great video,I feel your frustration. Bought one of these which arrived today from Longfield Chrono in UK. You have to have this watch in your hand to know how superb it is! Proportions are perfect.I was going to swap dial for seiko from seikosis but after seeing it,I wont bother.Spencer,AR coating can be rubbed off with damp sponge but the coating on this is not too dark imho.The strap is excellent,with the period correct taper to 16mm buckle. It really is as great as you say,and the build quality is first class.Bezel action is butter-smooth and the dial detail is amazing.I have a 7 1/2" wrist and it looks brilliant on me. Absolutely love it,wouldn"t change a thing..........yet Thanks again Spencer

[@morgan.enfield]

I bought this watch recently and discovered they put now "lock" on the crown. Stunning watch, I agree with your review. 👍

[@davidtaysom3592]

I've got this watch and had it for almost a year now. I've paired up with a Uncle seiko h link bracelet and I feel guilty for saying this but it is such a great watch. It's probably my favourite in my collection.i actually prefer to wear to my other much more expensive watches

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Lot to be said for a watch you can wear without worry.

[@c..7532]

How does the Uncle Seiko h link fit? Did you need to resize the lugs? Thinking about getting the h link for my rdunae. Such a good value tool watch

[@davidtaysom3592]

@@c..7532 hi,it will fit straight on.the only thing I would say is that the endlink profile is slightly different in that it starts flush at the watch head end and finishes a bit lower and not flush at the other end of the lug.

[@c..7532]

Got it. I think I'll go for it then. Like the option of having a bracelet. Thanks!

[@Horologique]

Totally agree with you, these homages out of China, especially brands like San Martin, have a quality standard and bang per buck that has been lust upon Seiko in the last 3 years. I have reviewed their Submariner homages and was extremely impressed by the quality. Keep up the good work!

[@AutomobileVR]

The first impression - nothing short of epic :D .. It's either this or the Heimdallr one for me in the near future. Thanks!

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Good choice!

[@mohnnadmercedes8246]

I just pre ordered one with improved bezel dots and clear AR , hopefully it will run good 🥲

[@greggusan]

Good review of a very nice looking homage. I really do love this case design. Although I know the original has a 19mm lug width, I'd prefer this piece if it had a 20. I'd pick up one of these in a second otherwise.

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

Was on the fence with buying the reissue SPB 317 which lists for $900 however it can be found for around $750 but many owners are complaing about the supposed higher end 6R35 being out more than 20 seconds per day. They sould have offered it for a few hundreed less with the 4R35 instead. There is an entire Seiko and homage moding communities some replacing this same watches dial with a Seiko and they look awesome with the added plus of the inexpensive workhorse NH35 movement. I know this video is four years old but as of the end of 2024, China is hitting major home runs with these homages.

[@joespart4782]

100% agree if seiko made this and sold it for $500 it will sell like crazy .

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Yup.

[@stevenwymor1398]

Yep, I've bought from WR Watches. They're a quality outfit.

[@tuhkathri9126]

I just got a brand new rdunae 6105-8000. The sapphire Glass is now clear instead of having the blue tint and there are 4 dots on either side of the pip. But one thing they changed that dissapointed me is the hands. In the original version they were brushed on top and polished on the bevels which gave them a surprising complexity. However in the new version the hands are entirely polished. As a result the beveled edges are completely visually lost and I wasn't sure it had any until I took out a magnifier. But maybe the original has all polished hands and I never noticed it? Or perhaps it was a cost cutting measure on their part. Otherwise the fit and finish is excellent and perhaps more refined than the first version.

[@jbrentd]

Thanks for posting this up on you IG page. I've been wanting a 6105-8000 reissue/homage for a while and I finally have one on the way to me. I just couldn't pull the trigger on anything Seiko was offering.

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

I'm about to buy an original 6105 and am ordering one of these as a beater as I'd rather not wear the original when gardening or in the forest! For the last 2 years I have had the Steeldive homage, mostly to check whether the shape is comfortable for me. It actually keeps my MAS, Tudor and other divers off my wrist because the Steeldive is so flipping comfortable. I've been toying with buying the Uemura but have decided to buy a recently serviced and lightly relumed single owner 6105 instead.

[@samking4179]

Great review! Had know idea that this company was out there doing what they are doing. Very cool!

[@jaredhill1021]

They did do a great job on that homage. I own one too. The strap is actually a 20mm in the 19mm lugs or at least it is on my watch. Very soft strap too

[@MrLanoregreb]

I got the "Willard" from Heimdallr and i've been wearing it for 3 months, so cool. I have over 20 Seiko's but this Willard is just awesome. Too bad for Seiko b'cause i would have bought one from them...

[@jeffwblack]

Ditto. I've had my "Willard" since last fall. And if it had a Seiko logo instead of the Heimdallr "Sharkey" on the dial, You'd be hard pressed to tell it's an homage. Love mine.

[@jeffreyalbarandorivera9750]

Buy SPB151

[@randyallen2771]

Thanks Spenser, I visited the WR site and they look like a good value.

[@tholtan]

Glad you like the watch. Wait until you shut off the lights. It will glow like a very glowy thing indeed.

[@troynasello2085]

I bought the 8110 from them and bought a reproduction dial with the applied Seiko logo & indices. The replica dial fit no problem, so it looks really good. It's the only way I'll be able to afford a vintage Seiko.

[@christianmotos]

I'm curious, seeing that the nh35 is a 3 o'clock crown movement, is the movement ring modified to receive dial feet to suit one with 4? I wonder if you can put a modern turtle dial in there

[@brucekaralash5054]

San Martin also makes these and other Seiko styles like the tuna and 62 Mas. Check AliExpress.

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

wrwatches.com has everything and more, I couldn't believe it.

[@brucekaralash5054]

@@SpencerKleinVintageWatch Thanks for the link bro!👊

[@dmits22]

Last October I bought both the 62 MAS and the 6105 homages from San Martin and still can't believe how great a job they did with them. I wear them all the time and never leave my rotation and I hate them for being so good.

[@daletaylorjr.4786]

They are also on the wreathes.com.

[@SubCapt]

FWIW the San Martin version is markedly different, in that the minute track has been moved to the chapter ring, and therefore the applied markers are moved a couple of mm towards the edge of the dial, which makes it look and wear larger, just like their take on the 6105-8110 looks and wear larger than the Steeldive and Heimdallr versions.

[@russm6759]

Great review, Spencer. I applaud your passion and appreciate the frustration. I have a 6309 story for you but I will send that in an email.

[@garyshepherd9226]

I have 2 of the Chinese Steeldive 6105 hommages - and they are great timekeepers and look good (and of course use the Seiko NR35 movement) - similar to the one you are reviewing. But I share the frustration - if Seiko reissued the 6105 at an affordable price they would sell loads of them. So in the meantime, us mere mortals have to make do with hommages. But they are pretty good and look good on an Uncle Seiko strap - and no-one is going to try and rob you. Thanks for this review - it means a lot that someone with your expertise in Seiko watches has given a good review of a hommage. The criticism is of Seiko and the missed opportunity!

[@PaulewingStHelens]

I've got the SteelDive version of this watch and you do have to wonder if these different homages are coming out of the same factory. Mine even came in the same box as the one shown. That all said the watch is fantastic and incredible that I picked mine up for £104.

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Most likely, believe me.

[@jeffreyalbarandorivera9750]

I'm excited to see whether the original 6105 rotating bezel will fit exactly with the rdunae willard.

[@felixnrlampa9522]

fair review and excellent watch

[@rhinowatches9738]

Seiko has dropped the ball over the last few years! Have you even seen the Heimdallr 62mas? Oh man..oh man 👌🏼👌🏼

[@gabrielM1111]

Hey Spencer, how could you not notice that the rdunae crystal does not reflect the minute markers at all. This is the most noticeable characteristic of the seiko willard. The heimdallr homage does and its very close to the seiko and quality built. The only advantage rdunae has is the 19mm lugs. Check it out sir.

[@muckcity355]

This is how I feel about that Willard I just bought they got it right!!

[@mackie1567]

I have the Steeldive 6105 Willard I am happy with it also the 62mas Homage very happy with both watches remember for the new Seiko 5 I would not be buying it you are paying a lot more for an inferior watch in my opinion, as you say Seiko have lost the way price wise with some of their models keep up the good work Spencer I believe you should have a bigger amount of subs as you are good at what you do.

[@nate.or.nodate]

Super interesting, this def has my attention

[@BiffTannenBTTF]

Looks like they're doing a grandfather tuna that they call the emperor. Looks nice!

[@diddleysquat4543]

They do, I have one as a daily wearer and it is TERRIFIC.

[@randynovick7972]

Interesting. I have heard of a few of their brands. Nearly bought one, but stayed my hand so that I can save for something special. Looks like an interesting way to gather parts for a custom or mod watch, there, too. Thanks!

[@Libertà_sulla_vita]

Seiko will make one. Theyll just charge $2,000 for the model and only make 500. Then theyll re-release the same watch a year later for $700 and make as many as they can..😂

[@jeffbrockelbank7686]

Hey Spencer have you seen their new 6105-8110? They added a lot more detail to make it look like the original, they cut grooves into the underside of the bezel where the click ball would sit, and even put lock on the crown.

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Nope. They contacted me to propose a "partnership" where I'd help them design & promote their "perfect" 6309. When I asked what this "partnership" would bring to me - assuming that my time & support had value to them - they came to me, after all - but judging by their total silence since I asked, the answer was "bupkis". They want me to help them make money but only as long as they don't have to do anything or pay anything or even send me a watch, literally. Like, no joke. They literally won't consider giving me anything for doing anything. So, I don't go there or support them.

[@Chrissepisje]

Exactly six days later this video made me laugh. Seiko for the win. Whoop whoop.

[@raz9558]

Are you going to buy the Prospex or this one?

[@timeaftertime3563]

Nice review. I think the inserts are different mainly because these homages use a ceramic bezel insert instead of the original aluminum. It's just different, and most people do prefer the ceramic one. 👍🏼

[@stevepodraza6363]

I have a heimdallr and a steeldive both 6105 , not a fan of China either but for the money it blows my mind. I currently wearing my seiko sbbn031 and love seiko but wow these Chinese watches are amazing for the money

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

If it weren't for the China connection I'd be even more enthusiastic.

[@stevepodraza6363]

@@SpencerKleinVintageWatch they are releasing 6105-8110 in November. Looks pretty good

[@oiramsq73]

Bingo! Incapable (less likely) unwilling (much more likely). They must know that there is a void and they simply don’t care how the devotees bridge it.

[@intezamable]

wr watches plz manufacture also the 6105 8011 with correct case dimensions.thx

[@catcat40000]

Can you test the water resistance on this?

[@birdman7083]

That is where the house of cards will fall

[@charlesblithfield6182]

6105-8000 is my favourite watch. Thanks for the look. I’m getting one. Do you know if there are any differences between the 3 available versions Retangula and Rdunae sold at Aliex vs the WR Watches version? There are slight differences in price but I can’t find any visible differences. Nice score on the original bezel!

[@nachovalenti]

In my opinion this watch looks great and like all of us we follow Seiko and how it happens to you,we feel frustrated that the brand doesn't manufacture something like that with a similar price. I have the doubt if the movement will be reliable or not,how is the lune,although I suppose that you will inform us about it and some more details that you will see. Great review Spencer and thanks for sharing.

[@jaredhill1021]

The watch has a NH35 movement which is made by Seiko. Its their unbranded 4r35. No issues their. The lume is not up to Seiko quality but it still works. Im wearing my Rdunae homage right now and can see the lume glow while sitting in sunlit room.

[@nachovalenti]

Jared Hill thanks for your information,very useful. I'm thinking to order one of these WR Rdunae.

[@davidwoo8920]

their website says the watch is on sale at the moment. and there are 3 variants offered: black, black/gold and sandblasted.

[@sgtlmj]

I had high hopes for this watch. The one I received had an incorrectly installed crystal gasket that was visibly protruding into the dial. Still fighting them for the refund.

[@jensrb50]

I wear high end replicas of ETA based original watches and the Chinese know how to replicate jewelry .You will encounter things like scratched hands or dust on the glass but these are cost cutting problems .Makes you wonder if the pricing is fair of some brands.

[@rlambert7773]

There are certain demographics for this type of watch, for example someone that can't spend $1500 to $2000 on an actual 6105-8000. With that in mind shouldn't those people have a reasonably priced alternative to the real thing? An alternative that someone with a vast knowledge of the original has examined in depth and pointed out the pros and the cons of the execution. The answer is YES my douchebag friends that need to re-prioritize their life and get an idea of which battles to give a shit about and which are not a good use of their time and energy. It's a $200 to $300 watch that has a specific market and will satisfy the majority of it's customers. If you think this comment is about you you're probably right. It was an informative video, well done!

[@rlambert7773]

@classiccarz And to your point I have yet to buy a modern Seiko for more than a few hundred dollars and I don't see ever spending more than that. With that being said I have spent Omega money and plenty of cash on vintage pieces but I consider that a different proposition than the modern pieces.

[@joncaradies3155]

Nice ! I would love to have your thoughts on the NH35 movement .

[@Conaire_Mc]

I just can’t get over the logo not being Seiko. I bought a 6105 homage and sold it without even wearing it. The subtle differences annoyed me too much. I’d like to hear your opinion on watch brands like Helm. I think they look like good quality affordable watches with fairly original designs

[@Hufnagelsworld]

The insert, bezel and dial can all be changed to look even more like the original.

[@propblast82nd]

You should review the Heimdallr 6105 also .

[@resjon7981]

Seiko has solved the problem by releasing the SPB317.

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

At five times the price.

[@resjon7981]

@@SpencerKleinVintageWatch True but hey its only money which will be spent on one bill or another. My local AD is selling them for £690.00 so I will be getting one soon.

[@2777qkh]

I feel your frustration with Seiko. So many things they should have done but didn't or refuse to. And things they shouldn't have done (like killing off iconic pieces) but they did anyway. It seems they are resting on thier laurels by taking year long lunch breaks.

[@priority2]

Great video…and you have a new subscriber 😊

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Thanks.

[@saulbrook7740]

How is the lume? Are you going to take it apart and inspect the inner finishing? Do you think it will take a hardlex crystal?

[@faisalingalong]

Amazing. Sad but perhaps this is the new reality. Seiko have moved on.

[@fatcamp907]

Do you have a link to purchase this watch? I want a Willard, but due to going back to college, my budget is limited 😬

[@arkiepoo]

WR Watches are the best distributer I've ever dealt with. 5 watches from them so far and flawless customer service. The Chinese microbrands are taking over. Everyone else is getting too greedy.

[@arkiepoo]

Also I have this Rdunae in sandblast and it's probably my favourite.

[@miliusrex11]

My experience with WR Watches was late March, and their service was still excellent.

[@eugenethomas4647]

These look good! As a Canadian though, these are closer to $300 with shipping and duty. Would your thoughts change at all if this was a $300 watch for you? Or do you still believe it would be a good buy at that price as well?

[@jensrb50]

Can you test if a Seiko dial would fit in terms of size ?

[@Boomboom1001]

Why don't you please get seiko to remake this 6105-8000 and the 8010

[@oceannomads]

Where can I buy one? Any link? Thanks!

[@goldbond1114]

It is frustrating. I mean the new 6105 reissue is around £1000!!

[@MrBacchus18]

I may get one of these or maybe a San Martin

[@BiffTannenBTTF]

How does the lug to lug and case diameter compare?

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

Identical. The repop is slightly thicker.

[@mikev3245]

Hi Spencer, you say you received yours in 3 days? I ordered mine 16 days ago and am still waiting. I have inquired a few times and am getting a bunch of cookie cutter double talk responses that amounts to "you need to wait several more days for it to actually be in DHL's possession". DHL have confirmed they still have not been given the package although a tracking number is provided. Kind of like when an ebay seller marks an item shipped and gives a tracking# but has not yet actually taken it to USPS. Was your watch shipped via DHL? All the best to you and Sabrina.

[@joncaradies3155]

They just very recently switched from using DHL to FedX . I think that's where your problem is .....

[@jaredhill1021]

I bought my Rdunae a few months ago from WR Watches and ran into similar issues. A courier is used to get the watches to DHL and they seem to work on their own schedule. It took about two weeks for mine to arrive to Maryland.

[@mikev3245]

@@jaredhill1021 So far 17 days(and counting) and still not in DHL's possession. Not my idea of "express shipping"

[@weaverflytyer]

Stupid question but could you mod this? say swap in the seiko turtle dial in?

[@josephsanpedro5056]

Yes but you have to clip the dial feet since the crown is exactly at the 4 o'clock position. Search in KZbin 6105-8000 homage and look for TheTimeKeeper he has a video on how to do it

[@SirRat1959]

How much for the NOS Bezel?

[@machinistmikethetinkerer4827]

Arrogance? Pride after WWII? I dunno....those 6105s showed up at the ships store soon after we departed Japan. Duty free, that's where I got mine. For 32.99 which was a chunk back then.

[@Harleyglide03]

Is this a 19 or 20mm lug width?

[@ragnarone5409]

19 mm

[@Harleyglide03]

@@ragnarone5409 thx

[@humayunmirza6835]

It's sold out now....

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

The one in this video is available!

[@swright5690]

Flush lume pip at 1200. Heimdallr....re you listening?

[@SpencerKleinVintageWatch]

The only company that should have a raised pip is Rolex, if you ask me.

[@TheTimLara]

It's not that Seiko *can't* do it, they only want to do the classic reissues as multi-thousand dollar limited editions. I think they intentionally "gimp" the more affordable reissues to try to force people to buy the ridiculously overpriced ones. Really a bummer.

[@theleastsignificantbit4794]

Sadly Seiko doesn’t care. They only care about making minute improvements while doubling their prices. I’ll buy their version of the Willard because the Seiko reissues are either too expensive or stray too much from the original design.

[@craigadam]

‘In this case’ no pun intended.

[@Bob.martens]

Seiko knows how close the Chinese are coming at half their price, so they're moving upmarket. They're about to be overtaken in the pricerange they used to operate in until a few years ago. The era of automatic sub-300$ seiko divers has been coming to an end for a while now. Chinese are the new affordable. Once they get their branding and logo-game straight, they will become desirable and collectable as well. Chinese movements can and will be just as good or better than Japanese.

[@huangcjz]

FiftyFour watches has a video and photos showing an original 62MAS case next to their homage of it, to show how similar it is (it's not exactly identical - IIRC the homage has slightly longer lugs, a thicker mid-case, and is 0.3 mm thicker overall due to the new sapphire crystal vs. acrylic - but it's pretty close, 37 mm diameter like the original rather than the larger Seiko modern re-interpretations). So they put the investment in getting an original 62MAS, which is not cheap, in order to get it right. I guess they probably laser-scan the original case as a starting point in order to help re-create it using CAD/CAM: facebook.com/watch/?v=376558863063461 cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/0985/2781/products/[e-mail]?v=1583247704 cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/0985/2781/products/[e-mail]?v=1583247704 cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/0985/2781/products/[e-mail]?v=1583247704 cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0073/0985/2781/products/[e-mail]?v=1583247704 They polish the cases by hand: facebook.com/watch/?v=354444661860965

[@fw1421]

How does Seiko allow a Chinese copy to exist? It cost me more to get my original 6105 to get serviced than what you paid for this watch! Daaaam….🙀😤

[@kyleleungrulez]

Seems like a rabbit hole to fall into hhhhh. If you got first Chinese made watch, then possibly many to come. Also, I remember this model has two other style. One gold tone and the other's grey with sand-blasted finish. And much like your opinion, these Chinese manufacturers did what they do, with modern iteration of vintage Seiko watches. Primarily because A. they don't make it anymore B. Seiko did make a reissue but hella expensive. Safe to say that most famous styles of Seiko is pretty much replicated by those manufacturers. But at the end of day, I'm not defending for their copying. But it is a cheaper way of merely wearing or even modding.

[@clontstable1]

If I wasn't so pissed at China, I'd consider picking one up.