The Overwatch 2 Hero Design Issue

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[@midnightroyal8953]

I'd say Junkerqueen's ult is the least problematic part of her. Having anti heal on something you only get every couple fights isnt a bad thing

[@PixelRory]

It's mainly her lifesteal from the bleed that can be frustrating but I actually like it. Tbh she's a tank I don't mind at all personally, I was just pushing forward complaints I've heard/seen

[@ChrisCarlos64]

Junkerqueen is maybe the best tank design they have made so far and their best new hero IMO. I am a JQ main, so I admit I can be biased, but as someone who plays tank almost exclusively, she just has a well thought out kit. I won't detail the numbers really as those can always be adjusted, but overall her kit as a tank makes it so she's not just made unstoppable and has fair disadvantages that can be capitalized on for the enemy team. I won't go into team comp and counters, because that's too fluid for this talk. Ultimately JQ just requires you to be the aggressor and her kit rewards her for closing the gap. She secures kills and she becomes unstoppable the more she dwindles your team down. She also requires that you land your abilities to survive. Carnage and Gracie for example are not abilities that just save you like Orisa Fortify and Jav Spin. JQ also doesn't have armor, which Mauga IMO didn't need. Like Roadhog, she's a tank that's built tough and survives off her interactions and abilities. A good hook and good management of hog's Take a Breather make him hard to kill for example and good bleed stacks and takedowns keep JQ alive as well. I was hoping she was going to be the start of a tank that is more self-reliant on themselves to survive and basically be a mini-raid boss of sorts and ultimately removing damage mitigation like armor from the equation. I always have a blast on Queen and when you get rolling, I just feel so much thrill with her. It's all because of her superb design, voice work, and kit.

[@Omar-uk1dq]

@@ChrisCarlos64Ram is also really well designed but yeah they made some huge blunders in regards to Orisa,Hog and Mauga

[@alexcat6685]

@@Omar-uk1dq Aside from some flaws, I'd say he shield being too limited in both forms, his wrecker ingoring the point of a shield via ingoring it instead of countering it and his Pulldown not actually being able to pull the targets it's ment to.

[@saaaaaaaaalt838]

Still kinda salty that they straight up deleted my main role. Off tank was always so fun and now it's literally not a thing that can ever exist any more.

[@PixelRory]

Your name is accurate so lmao I agree with you though, I'm a dps player but I still loved the occasional tank duo q with one of my friends, it was the role with the biggest need for synergy and it was so rewarding if you played well with your other half

[@Blitzol]

I think Ramattra is a genuinely well designed character, the infinite ult was a bit nuts but everything else was and is pretty great

[@greyfalconow9467]

So here's a problem with Power Budgets. While it makes sense, within a Role. It's functionally incompatible between the DPS and Support Role. Since the goal with the devs is to equalize the popularity between roles, for Queue/Matchmaker purposes. And it's not like they need roles to have equal objectives capture influence, since they aren't attempting to block Role Stacking through balancing. Because Role Stacking is impossible with Role Limits. Role Stacking hasn't been in the primary game mode for 5 years...... Also, Gavin Winters already pointed out how the Experimental Card sucks for data. Since it barely got used.

[@PixelRory]

holy shit you're the forum guy. And fair points tbh

[@xXSoulxxFireXx]

Nice vid! I feel like some heroes from ow 1 still haven't been adjusted correctly to ow2. Old characters are specialized and have designed flaws. The new characters can do multiple things without near as many flaws.

[@theredguy92]

I dont even care about another tank covering my weaknesses or amplifying my strengths. It would be nice to just have someone else to tank a sleep dart or hinder once in awhile. They removed some CC for OW2 but when you remove a tank too all the CC that is left gets put mainly into the only tank left.

[@pikazilla6405]

From the future here, but thankfully your hopes have seemingly been answered somewhat as I can confidently say venture is one of the least offensive hero releases we've had in an embarrassingly long time, not meta shattering and not so bad the entire community started doom posting, the only complaint people have is how many absolute clowns play them and end up using all their cooldowns in the enemy backline with zero escape plan and end up with the most deaths of everyone in the match

[@ArturoPladeado]

She can be annoying to play against even if someone is half decent at her, she seems like Pharah but no flying.

[@JoshDun6]

Experimental card wasnt even played, thats the reason its not around

[@mutecryptid]

I need the song names please 🙏

[@PixelRory]

In order: Persona 3 Reload - color your night Persona 4 - heartbeat heartbreak Persona 3 - iwatodai dorm Persona 5 Royal - so happy world (I'm 90% sure about this last one, I don't have access to my pc for another like 16 hours or something so I can't check the file) if it's not that then I'll find the other for ya

[@TylerPayne21]

I would have hoped that Blizzard would have hired more competent game developers, but here we are. 🤪

[@Savevade]

"Roadhog soldier mercy" sounds about right

[@PixelRory]

I am losing my mind I think I have one day with 5 straight games of that team comp

[@murraydavis7561]

guys, new sources report he might make an ultrakill video

[@PixelRory]

STOP FLOODING MY NOTIFICATIONS

[@0whatman]

I'll allways keep the oppinion that overwatch would've been better if it stayed with 6v6 and 4 character classes, but made it so each character had 2 of those classes and each 2 players was restricted to 1 class for a match this way all the characters could see a lot more use even when restricted and they could fullfill multiple roles and show to players what the intent is with them (Defense might be termed Control and Attack into Damage) examples would be: Symmetra: Control/Support Torbyorn: Control/Support or Control/Damage Sombra: Damage/Control Roadhog: Tank/Damage Mei: Control/Tank Zenyatta: Support/Damage Widowmaker: Damage/Control Phara: Damage/Control Orisa: Tank/Control or Tank/Damage Ana: Support/Damage

[@greyfalconow9467]

Yup, that's me. Good video.

[@murraydavis7561]

We just need more silly future design. I do not care. Mauga is peak design. 200kg of pure muscle = bulletproof? okay

[@PatrickArcato]

Very original, too. Didn't steal it at all from Disney

[@Machosause]

​@@PatrickArcatoYou know Disney didn't invent Polynesian culture, right?

[@snek2329]

REAL AS FUCK BRO I LOVE THE SAMOAN

[@nihili4196]

Can we just agree that "hero fantasy" as a design principle is straight up dumb? Going about making new heroes with the idea of "we haven't done that idea yet, it may not work best in game, but we want to include it" is just asking for troubles

[@AshVXmc]

I feel like “hero fantasy” should be a product of good kit design instead of the other way around. Making a cohesive kit that organically creates a “hero fantasy” through clever use of player skill is better than what you just described “hero fantasy” as. As for your last statement, iteration is still an important stage of game design. Its just that “we want to include it” should not triumph over the question “will this be balanced and fun?”

[@kyubbikcat2281]

Bro those are some nasty as midair rockets from Pharah.

[@jessemurphy2158]

I always theorised that they release heros broken just to sell their battle pass. The COs probably told the OW devs that they would be fired if they ever had a lifeweaver first release type scenario again.

[@DankuVoid]

Day 8 of asking for an Irish Review of Ultrakill and Risk of Rain (Yes im adding risk of rain to it now lol) (also I agree with everything you said in video, as much as i love playing Zen and still do, before his discord nerf did actually make him feel more braindead to play as, and even worse to play against, and as cool as it is to see Mauga finally be in the game, it made me not want to play the game for a month, Mauga mirror matchups are more boring than Orisa mirror matchups and its not even close)

[@PixelRory]

You know sometimes I think the brackets and request can be swapped

[@akira699]

common Rory w take

[@johnm2174]

You already know this video is another W

[@margaretthatchersgravecandle]

in my opinion, overwatch 2 hero design (looks and kit) feels like paladins, if you showed me mauga before i played this season and asked me to decide whether he was paladins or overwatch i probably wouldn't be able to. and even his kit is almost identical to raum (i promise this isnt meant to be some "paladins better" rant😭)

[@PixelRory]

I play paladins so I do get what you mean. I think they just gotta reel things back and set out some ground rules

[@rubensledsens572]

W vid from pharah goat, we should hit the duo sometime (remechplays out ;)

[@PixelRory]

Pharmercy brawl when

[@rubensledsens572]

@@PixelRory im down whenever bro

[@Omega1887]

That persona 3 music man my teenage years