The Pacific - Episode 3 Melbourne - Group Reaction

The boys pit stop in Australia where romance and drinking become problematic. Let us know what you thought of this episode in the comments and leave a like and subscribe! Be sure to stick around after the reaction for the discussion, this is The Pacific Mini Series Episode 3! Melbourne!
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[@Christian-tx4fi]

No guys, they did not give medal of honors to anyone. If you look up the story of basilone, he held that position for days without food or sleep and was one of the only men left standing. He deserved it and more. Plz dont compare forrest gump to real heroes

[@brucechmiel7964]

@@brionesjosewifredg.1291 That's the only reason this show follows D day on Iwo.

[@vitovirgilio8975]

@@brionesjosewifredg.1291 not sure why you would reveal that in the comments

[@gravitypronepart2201]

@@brionesjosewifredg.1291 no spoilers please!

[@brionesjosewifredg.1291]

Oops yeah. Apologies guys. I'll delete it

[@miketorok4536]

Where band of brothers starts off high intensity and slows down in the end, the pacific has a slow start but a really brutal end.

[@DorkKnight99]

The Marine Corps administratively falls under the US Navy Branch, but they have their own equipment and budget (or lack there of).

[@chunkyMunky329]

That is not correct. There are 6 branches of the United States Armed Forces: Army, Marine Corp, Navy, Air Force, Space Force and Coast Guard

[@IvanOfficial01]

@@chunkyMunky329 Correct, however; the Marine Corps administratively falls under the department of the Navy.

[@waynethayer5127]

Every marines serves under the Department of Navy. I mean broken down marine actually stands for My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment...lol

[@gravitypronepart2201]

The Marines have always had funding challenges, and still do. Partly because some in Congress have always felt they are unnecessary. Also, they have always got hand-me-downs. But the primary problem was that the US decided that Europe had priority, so all branches fighting in the Pacific were underfunded and even abandoned, as were those serving in the Philippines at the start of the war.

[@waynethayer5127]

@@chunkyMunky329 I actually served in the Navy for 9 years. The they are both Department of The Navy.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

At that time, the Marines were underfunded...Having a Medal of Honor with them can help the effort of the other...

[@tehdipstick]

Yep, having a war hero at home doing PR would definitely help sell war bonds.

[@pric1019]

I think John Basilone was the first enlisted Marine to win the Medal of Honor, so it was a huge deal for them not only to sell war bonds but to help enlistment.

[@AT-rr2xw]

It has been a while since I have seen Flags of My Fathers, but that was a big part of the movie, right?

[@tehdipstick]

@@AT-rr2xw Yep, I don't think it was about Basilone, but it was about a soldier receiving the MoH and getting shipped back to the states, with him having survivor's guilt, PTSD and feeling like he let his company down by not staying and fighting.

[@mad_max21]

LOL "at that time". Try now too.

[@catherinelw9365]

That general saluted Basilone first when he was wearing the Medal of Honor, which is traditional.

[@dastemplar9681]

Even a Five Star General is obligated to salute to a recipient first.

[@tehdipstick]

I think John's meant to be portrayed as having mixed feelings about receiving his medal. He's proud and thankful, but at the same time he also feels like he just did his job, like any other marine, and that those who died, like Manny, deserve more recognition for making the ultimate sacrifice. As for Leckie staying with Stella and her parents, no, he didn't really have the permission to do that. He was supposed to stay on base, so technically he was AWOL, but the higher ups didn't really enforce the rules much at first, as they figured the soldiers deserved/needed to let loose a little and blow off some steam after the hardships they'd faced on Guadalcanal. After a while though, they had to commit to their training and such again in order to maintain discipline, and the rules started being enforced more firmly.

[@dasfritzchen9059]

Marines are still underfounded...they took that as a batch of honor nowadays not to have the newest crap like the army

[@Omega4Productions]

This episode was a special treat for an Aussie like me because I finally got a piece of entertainment where I recognised the areas they shot at. I recognise Flinders Street station (that big building in the background where Leckie meets Stella for the first time), for example, because I take the train there every morning to go to Uni. It seems trivial, but for someone who so rarely gets to see my country feature in big shows and movies, let alone my home city, it’s great for me.

[@benschultz1784]

Remember most of Australia's armed forces were deployed to North Africa to fight Rommel. So the airbase on Guadalcanal would've allowed the Japanese to bomb cities like Sydney and Brisbane, as well as launch an invasion of Eastern Australia. The Australians did have some industrial capacity to make arms and war equipment. The AC1 Sentinel tank and the CAC Boomerang fighter were developed in case of a Japanese attack but when the US had enough equipment to supply them they were relegated to less important roles

[@revelstatus2346]

I'm just waiting for the depression and cruelty of war to destroy their happy go lucky souls in the upcoming episodes.

[@VirtualnomadVirtualnomad]

A man of culture I see

[@lawrencedockery9032]

John Basilone's Medal of Honor Citation: "For extraordinary heroism and conspicuous gallantry in action against enemy Japanese forces, above and beyond the call of duty, while serving with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division in the Lunga Area, Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands, on 24 and 25 October 1942. While the enemy was hammering at the Marines' defensive positions, Sgt. BASILONE, in charge of 2 sections of heavy machine guns, fought valiantly to check the savage and determined assault. In a fierce frontal attack with the Japanese blasting his guns with grenades and mortar fire, one of Sgt. BASILONE'S sections, with its gun crews, was put out of action, leaving only 2 men able to carry on. Moving an extra gun into position, he placed it in action, then, under continual fire, repaired another and personally manned it, gallantly holding his line until replacements arrived. A little later, with ammunition critically low and the supply lines cut off, Sgt. BASILONE, at great risk of his life and in the face of continued enemy attack, battled his way through hostile lines with urgently needed shells for his gunners, thereby contributing in large measure to the virtual annihilation of a Japanese regiment. His great personal valor and courageous initiative were in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service."

[@lambadaglover1011]

o7

[@catherinelw9365]

He wasn’t conflicted over killing the enemy when he was awarded the MOH. He felt that the other men who fought alongside him deserved the honor too. And it wasn’t a political decision- you have to EARN the MOH.

[@gravitypronepart2201]

That's right. Most GMOH recipients were awarded it post humanously.

[@omalleycaboose5937]

Too explain the sores on their feet... they were issued new boots and forced to give up their old boots. The new boots, made in Australia... were to put it simply... shit. Just plain shit boots... hence sores on feet

[@pric1019]

It doesn't even matter what boots you're wearing; after 100 mile march everyone will have blisters on their feet.

[@omalleycaboose5937]

@@pric1019 well Leckie specifically blamed the boots for it. I'm sure there still would have been Boots and all... But the Boots made things much worse.

[@VirtualnomadVirtualnomad]

@@pric1019 Thats right, new boots especially under pressure of being a soldier prone to get blisters on soles. That being said good boots can cost a life

[@DeathDefiant]

To this day some of the boot's they issue are still shit. I remember being issued boots as an airforce cadet with soles that was as soft as chewie. Needless too say, marching for 4-6 hours straight for 3 days straight in rugged terrain was a nightmare.

[@EpicMRPancake]

The Flinders street brawl was started by the Marines IRL.

[@Omega4Productions]

And but a small slapping contest compared to the “Battle of Brisbane”, as they call it.

[@Miss.6ixEdits]

The tension of basilone and his battle buddy wanting to hug and embrace before they depart from each other is so well done.

[@Conn30Mtenor]

The real Bob Leckie was in trouble and in "the brig" (jail) LOTS of times. He never made it past private because he was a seriously naughty boy. Going AWOL, etc. etc. etc.

[@gravitypronepart2201]

So Normies, maybe you know this, but all military personnel are required by law to salute MOH awardees, regardless of rank, when in uniform.

[@6TomCruz6]

Basilon was really needed for those funding the War he was the real Captain America. It's crazy how Bob Leckie Australian girlfriend family treater him way better than his real family in the series. The condoms were used to keep their rifles from getting wet ahaha 🤣 that's was a real thing

[@DorkKnight99]

It's not about the actions he took. John gave ZERO fucks about who he had to kill. It's pure survivor's guilt he's feeling.

[@andreraymond6860]

I was reading a book about the complex relationship between Australia and Great Britain and the relationship between Australia and America. The people of Australia had no great commitment towards the allied war effort. They were especially suspicious of the possibility of their troops being used as canon fodder for Great Britain as they had in the first great war. The government under Curtin was somewhat more realistic about their country's commitment towards the British, even as they were condescended to by the British Foreign office and he colonial office. It took awhile for the British government to come around to the reality of the new relationship with the commonwealth nations. Senior British diplomats still had the notion of the EMPIRE firmly planted in their minds when dealing with EX-Colonies. Australia was flirting with America through the late 1930s and into the 1940s. America represented an important potential trade ally. Australia was strategically positioned so that the Americans needed them to wage the Pacific campaign. Their common language and political interests made them a natural partner. Also Curtin's government used this as a pressure point in negotiating with the British government, who had their backs against the wall in Europe. Australian troops serving in the North African desert under British officers were deemed wasted when Australia needed its men close to home to face the threat of Japan. I may be way off, but that's as I understood what I read. My sources are Max Hastings' 'Retribution' and Andrew Stewart's 'Empire Lost, Britain, The Dominions and the Second World War'.

[@thegroove14]

I really liked this episode. It served as a nice palette cleanser from the previous two episodes.

[@catherinelw9365]

Basilone was a champion boxer when he was in the Army, stationed in the Philippines so that Aussie made a mistake hitting him.

[@robertsilvernail3572]

That officer is "Chesty" Puller. Is a legendary Marine! Started service in the "banana wars" and served through the Korean War. Retired an a lieutenant General. (3 stars)

[@fettfan91]

To this day Australians have a deep respect for American service men because of their role in defending them from Japanese invasion. There is a national holiday there called Anzac Day that is basically their version of Memorial Day remembering all the Australians and New Zealanders who served and died.

[@tonymatrisin4328]

Actor who played John was great. Was Selena,s Husband n Dino in most underrated show Oz. Happy holidays

[@DanielRamosMilitaryWiz]

Oh no John Basilone got the Medal of Honor for his accomplishments. What he did on Guadalcanal is legendary, even today Gunnery Sergeant Basilone is revered in the United States Marine Corps. It would have been a disgrace if he didn’t get the Medal of Honor. They don’t just give that medal out to anyone. You have to perform extraordinary acts of courage and heroism above and beyond the call of duty. His actions on Guadalcanal definitely fulfilled that criteria. The political aspect likely occurred naturally afterwards. The United States was still in the middle of World War II, so there were probably officials higher up who saw his story and thought, what better way to inspire the people and raise funds for the war effort than to have a legitimate hero as the face and voice of that effort in a time when the country needed heroes to look up to. It was important because the Marines needed additional funding for better gear and equipment to fight the war, but it’s not the kind of thing Basilone wanted to do. As a Marine, he wanted to be out there with his men. He didn’t feel comfortable going home and having all this attention on him being hailed as a hero, while so many others were out there fighting and dying. Its true that Basilone felt conflicted over being awarded the Medal of Honor. It wasn’t so much that he felt guilt over the number of enemy he killed, because that’s what he had to do in order to survive and save other Marines. He was proud and thankful to receive such an honor, but he felt that others deserved it too. Especially all those who paid the ultimate sacrifice, like his best friend Manny who died in Episode 2. So what he’s likely feeling is survivors guilt. This will be a common theme in the next few episodes, and it’s something many who’ve been through war experience. Someone like Basilone might often think, why did I survive? Why do I get to go home and have it so good? Being labeled a hero is a heavy burden to carry, and one that John finds difficult to cope with in the coming episodes.

[@d.-_-.b]

Being host to one of the 4 Grand Slam tennis tournaments in the world Melbourne had a lot of tennis balls, and many Aussie women wrote their phone numbers on or put hotel keys inside a tennis ball and threw it onto the visiting US ship.

[@georgeprchal3924]

I've done that in formation before, granted I didn't hit soft grass but the deck of a ship so it was considerably more painful.

[@squint04]

The LARGE dark circles on the uniforms are targets!! You know, if they run, the MP's will have a target!! Bob Leckie mentioned that in his book "Helmet for my pillow" great read.

[@gnomesaiyan1680]

Technically, Chris, Marines aren't Soldiers. They're Marines. Soldiers are sevicemen/women in the U.S. Army.

[@PiggyPigFace]

Technically, they are soldiers. The definition of "soldier" is completely unrelated to the US Army

[@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984]

@@PiggyPigFace Sorry, but that couldn't be further from the truth. That is false information, and where do you trace that, because civilians have always just called military people soldiers? If you want to talk about technical, then soldier literally means an Army serviceman. Civilians have always referred to military people as soldiers but that has never accurately been the case in actuality. Soldiers refer to people in the Army, and it's highly disrespectful and conceited to want to refer to other servicepeople in other branches as soldiers despite the objections of every single military member alive to the contrary.

[@PiggyPigFace]

@@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984 define army then for me champ. its not the us army. the marine corps fall under the english definition of army whether you like it or not

[@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984]

@@PiggyPigFace Army refers to Army branch of the military. Say that to a serviceperson's face. What's your problem, being so insistent that people in the military are wrong in how they refer to themselves? What a sheltered, fragile thing you are.

[@AT-rr2xw]

Take with a grain of salt, but from what I have heard, Australians had been fighting against Japan for longer and getting paid less than these Americans on leave, though I cannot say how their pay compared to Marines. And some of these Americans were starting trouble, so there were tensions. And then, yes, the fraternization with (sometimes harassment of) local women was considered part of that trouble. Not all of the resentment was justified, but some of it was understandable.

[@gravitypronepart2201]

Thos Aussies love to blue though. They dont really need a reason to fight. Its entertainment for them. Nothing personal. "Hey mate, wanna blue?" I was asked that in a bar in Perth once. Cool people those Aussies. But never call em a Kiwi!

[@Omega4Productions]

@@gravitypronepart2201 That’s because “Kiwi” is a slang term for New Zealanders.

[@cyatic]

Dan Daly won two Medals of Honor, and was nominated for a third for the Battle of Belleau Wood. He's one of our most famous brothers! Semper Fi.

[@gabriellee235]

That woman in Melbourne was under no obligation to him whatsoever. You can’t force someone to feel something they don’t. Simple as that. It sucks that he got hurt, but he wasn’t being realistic about the situation. Don’t even get me started on what that guy said about the Medal of Honor.🤬

[@tehdipstick]

True, but she did have feelings for him. She just also didn't want to put her parents through possibly/most likely losing another 'son', whether it be through Leckie dying or him just not coming back, which he probably wasn't going to do. Leckie was being shortsighted and only considered his feelings for her in that moment, while Stella was looking at the bigger picture as a whole. Like she said, she was still crazy about him, but she knew things most likely wouldn't work out between them. There's also the fact that Leckie was still in in love with Vera as well, and in at least some aspects Stella was probably more of a temporary surrogate than anything else.

[@gabriellee235]

@@tehdipstick that’s all well and god but the reactor shouldn’t be acting like she owed him anything just because he was a soldier. I wasn’t commenting on the character in the show, just the behavior/comments from the one reactor.

[@tehdipstick]

@@gabriellee235 Aaahhh, gotcha. My mistake for misunderstanding then. Yeah, I completely agree.

[@gabriellee235]

@@tehdipstick Its all good👍🏾

[@jackson857]

You guys have to do Generation Kill after you finish this!

[@strangereactions6]

Merry Christmas

[@christianboyette4463]

U.S. marine corps motto is semper fidelis, which means "always faithful". Sorry, but a Marine shouldn't cheat on a loved one.

[@VirtualnomadVirtualnomad]

You should watch Letters from Iwa Jima, pretty good movie from Japanese side of the story.

[@mksongbird]

intimacy coordinators. . .

[@soggycereal5760]

Can you react to the band of brothers documentary please

[@stevem2601]

What is that? What are they doing? What!!!! Come on!! Have you ever done hard labor before? Or ran with non - fitting shoes? Ever heard of blisters?

[@phillipdry3696]

The United States was fighting in all theaters of the war from 1941 to 1945.

[@robertrodgers1423]

Folks, how the "actor" responded to receiving the Medal of Honor and your reaction as if were real was priceless.

[@hollyheinz2702]

Can't wait for episodes 5-10

[@serinx]

yah guys never seen 'The Brown Bunny' :P :P

[@ryanstockhoff7089]

Lekie did not try to kill himself!!

[@ntshade8806]

so much bugs and shit in Australia... bro you been in Africa?!

[@laxus9451]

not sure if nahid and pat were genuinely unaware om how sex scenes work lol

[@a.j.m8264]

Attempt #184: of trying to get The Normies to check out Symbionic-Titan or Primal. Both made by Genndy Tartakovsky, the guy who made Samurai Jack.

[@AT-rr2xw]

Yeah, most Hollywood sex scenes are simulated. Usually. Often there is a big deal made when scenes are unsimulated, or it is at least made public knowledge. Don't Look Now is the first movie that comes to my mind, though I am not sure if that counts as Hollywood. There are a bunch of indie films that are all about sex; one could consider them to be just pretentious porn with plot, though a few barely have plot.

[@therentalshop4147]

r/extramile documents most the real stuff

[@AT-rr2xw]

@@therentalshop4147 Erm...well, thanks, I guess. Pat might appreciate that.

[@DanteRU0312]

Did I really just witness a discussion about whether or not cheating is okay? It's not. Whether you're a soldier on the leave or a wife who stayed at home. And if you feel that it would be difficult to not cheat if a woman throws herself at you, you should never be in a relationship.

[@MrRorza10]

As someone from Melbourne, I hate this lmao

[@toniobroly6462]

The Pacific really starts at episode 6

[@Boringunguy]

Dude got covid. Damn

[@thekhans2823]

Nice,

[@victorguimaraes6083]

React "Sons of Anarchy", please!!!

[@rodriolfo]

that ewok guy is very annoying...

[@lumbeeman01]

lmao so true, NEVER lock your knees.

[@Karl_Drogo55]

yup..u ever see those videos of people standing at weddings or on stage..and just suddenly passing out/falling over? lol

[@jakkrit6910]

im kinda sad when some people not even know this serie even exit. weeeellll i know it not as exciting compare to band of brother but still people should at least know it exit. also did you ever think if he come back from the war but she already have married other men? what he will do to her and her family it's something you can find in the news. maybe it's better not to give him a flase hope.

[@atlas94450]

That was actually a good question Pat came up with Do the actors have sex for real or is it all acting and they give you a lil sock like Chis said. Not just here but like in movies in general

[@inderjitkaur4531]

Almost first

[@charlesderosas5577]

The least favorite episode tbh.

[@fflv_irn]

"SHE's protecting here family"?! right. the dude is literally going to war to do some actually PROTECTING. what are u talking about?