The Pacific - "Hamm's dead. And Peck's gone"

Scene from Episode 9 - Okinawa - The Pacific (2010)

[@didimean]

As sad as this scene is, you really see how close Snafu and Sledge were at this point. They are screaming at each other, but immediately after that, Snafu is making sure Sledge doesn't get in harms way and keeps him from moving out of cover to get Peck.

[@John-sr2hr]

Only true friends tell each other to stfu like that lol

[@jackkrauss]

​@John-sr2hr Good point. It shows their comfortablity at this point

[@chasescanlon6488]

Just shows how the NCOs respected sledge at this point in the war. When he told him “peck is gone” he didn’t even ask why. Just told some grunt to get peck outta there.

[@happinesshotel5375]

Sledge didn’t tell them to get him out of there. It was some random guy who said it.

[@prodbycinder]

@@happinesshotel5375 he said "Peck is gone," which is all they needed

[@ZHBraden13]

That was the new LT that came up and asked, not a NCO.

[@kittycatcat6962]

​@@ZHBraden13 it the book the LT nicknamed shadow is one of the most disgusting human beings to ever have lived

[@ZHBraden13]

@@kittycatcat6962 Yea, according to Sledge, Mac, the Lt portrayed here, was a disgrace to the US and the Marines as a whole and Sledge was ashamed that Mac was a Marine. He would urinate in dead Japs mouths, was completely immature, pulled pranks that almost got Marines killed and would shoot dead animals and long dead Jap bodies for the morbid fun of it when they were on Patrols far from Allied lines, giving away their position.

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

Hamm really got me. He was so innocent and wasn't even prepared for the horror he saw in this episode. A family getting gunned down, a mother and her baby exploding. he had a good heart. War takes so many young boys.

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

"You're okay peck.." This is the first time I've seen Snafu comfort someone. I would've figured he would've tried to attack him like Eugene after getting one of their guys killed.

[@TheJokerx420]

He’s losing his mind and snafu seen that so he was comforting him so he doesn’t lose his shit even more

[@300thNPC]

Understandable from both sides. Snafu is right that what they're going through is bullshit. But Sledge is right to tell him to knock it off. They're both the vets of the squad and if the new guys see the vets start losing their shit then everything starts breaking down

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Clearly illustrated difference between replacements who were and were not drafted.

[@pointingdog7235]

SNAFU "what the fuck kind of Marine has to be drafted".

[@Godzilla00X]

To be fair, Snafu tricking peck into getting to trade ponchos screwed them all over in the end

[@LoveHammerMan]

@@Godzilla00X What? "Bro I was cold and wet! I HAD TO STEAL THE AMMO COVER, RUIN OUR AMMUNITION AND GET A BUNCH OF OUR MEN KILLED!" Brain dead...

[@cm-pr2ys]

​@@LoveHammerManwell said. It's about having the discipline to not screw the team over.

[@HydroSnips]

Excellent scene, really showing the breaking point and sheer despair. Seeing Snafu at the end of his tether (“I’m so f**king tired…”) was quite something when I saw this for the first time. Even if it didn’t happen in this way to these people in real life you can take that outright despair and apply it to thousands of soldiers lived experiences.

[@icctv7492]

and marines

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

I don't think Snafu ever got over this experience. I've read that he became an excessive drinker and even was abusive to his children. Poor bastard.

[@WHYJ35]

Well, regardless of the how, Peck did get Sledge and Snafu to quit arguing

[@lIlIlIll-kg2cm]

yup, that's why they did feel guilty, that it was also slightly their fault.

[@robertsarorn6273]

0:33 how I feel at work when they laid off a lot of people at work.

[@banan_9672]

This was literally my thought as well.

[@kikealvarado3237]

I know for real😭I'm a carpinter and this one place called lake way in Texas there is a lot of hills and people want houses there and there is trees (conifers) but they don't give much shade and I was just burning up and getting bad sunburn and I imagined and Said to myself (this is what the 19,000 American soldiers felt fighting on the umerbrogul mountains on pelelui) I'm 14 years old btw

[@theyankeekiller93]

Never changes

[@Sambaboy69]

He’s holding the poncho because he realizes that HE in fact caused everything. Snafu took Pecks brand new poncho when he tricked him by saying the new ponchos are littered with dangerous chemicals. Peck then replaced the torn poncho with a better one that was being used to keep the mortar rounds dry. By then Peck had clearly lost it being drafted and not wanting to be involved in the war in the first place. Snafu holding the poncho staring with regret at it is meant to illustrate that

[@LoveHammerMan]

A lot of you people are outing yourselves as destructive and immature... Yeah, SNAFU taking the poncho wasn't cool, But Peck was a trained mortar man who knew that wet ammo was dangerous and useless. He still selfishly, in the middle of a firefight, compromised the ammo of his squad, so he could put on a poncho, while he was already soaking wet.... SNAFUs selfish prank affected Peck, but Peck's idiotic selfishness cost: The lives all the men that mortar team was supposed to be covering... It might've cost the Okinawan family that could've used the covering fire to cross no man's land... Dice died getting more ammo... And it got his whole mortar squad volunteered as forward assault "because they were low on ammo" I mean my god... This is the same "They bullied me, so I had to do it!" mentality that school shooters have...

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

@@LoveHammerMan We never said that Peck isn't guilty, he should have known better than to not expose the rockets to water. But that situation wouldn't have occurred to begin with if Snafu had just asked for a new poncho instead of stealing it from Peck. Or at least Peck should have asked for a new poncho. That's the point OP was trying to make.

[@black8aron965]

Hamm did NOT deserve to die bro. I immediately loved his character and it was just so damn callous how he died. A sober reminder that war doesn’t give a fuck. It also brought me peace how Sledge still cared about him, despite his morale breaking.

[@john655002]

PTSD

[@prestonchambers8464]

Nah, he was just a bad Marine. Selfish with the poncho and got the rounds wet. Lying about dating that playboy girl. He was a draftee and hadn't seen combat up to that point there was no PTSD it's not even POST phase yet.

[@fede018]

Shell shock, as it was called.

[@charlotted1321]

Everyone here for Rami and Joseph, I'm here for Noel fisher

[@georgewashington6225]

No...

[@charlotted1321]

@Diego Cueva indeed

[@charlotted1321]

@Diego Cueva haha just on my phone at the right time I guess

[@melpineapple3611]

I’m here for Rami and Noel!!! love them

[@meep9231]

Wait what? Freddie, Deacon, AND Mickey was in this?

[@josephwright5140]

They caused pecks downfall in so many ways. By this time they were jaded by all that they saw, but peck (as well as ham and dice) we're looking up to sledge and snafu, they were their leaders, their sensei's. They really treated peck like he wasn't liked and wasn't welcome. In this scene them bickering was all it took for Peck who is in a horrible place, with no support and his only source of stability, his leaders are fighting with each other.

[@LoveHammerMan]

Everything is the same ribbing that all the other Marines go through in the series until he A.) Admits he was drafted and never intended to serve his country, and B.) Ruined the squads ammo causing a BUNCH of people to die without cover fire, Dice to get shot retrieving more ammo, and for his whole mortar squad to get volunteered to take part in an advance because "they were low on ammo anyway"... The true vitriol and disdain came after his many (Ironically) SNAFU's that endangered and killed many of his fellow marines. Just as other characters in this series earn their heroism and praise, through his own decisions, Peck *earned* this...

[@marinecorp179]

Perconte says it best to O'Keefe in Band of Brothers. They too were jaded at that point. I think it comes down to the fact, that SNAFU and Sledge knew each other for so long they can trust each other, but can't get close or trust the replacements if they'll just get killed the next patrol

[@huntergreene4344]

I’m reading “the things they carried” and Kiowa just died and I thought of this scene. Never seen this show before. Saw it when my dad was watching it

[@TripWamsley]

Great book!

[@beemy.6923]

This episode is just fucking sad.

[@kikealvarado3237]

He really said(peck sit down!!!)😂😂

[@jackkrauss]

Why's that funny?

[@darknessreign]

Lessons to learn from this Episode: 1.Every bad deed you do as an individual has consequences 2.Treat others with Respect (even lower enlisted) 3.never give yourself a reason to hate life. Just embrace the Suck.

[@extremelyproblematic]

Embrace the suck.. i like that

[@noggy3133]

“I like the suck”

[@noggy3133]

“I wished it sucked more”

[@Railhog2102]

Meanwhile when this was going on Easy Company watched the newsreels of Sledgehammer and the other members of the 1st Marine Division and others fighting the Japanese in these hellish conditions in Austria on occupation duty

[@alessandroofthemediterranean]

Episode 9 was brutal

[@KayleighNatasha]

Rami and Joseph

[@georgewashington6225]

Shut the fuck up

[@lavafox72x39]

Did hamms act as micky in shameless?

[@yeetnasty7703]

Yes

[@JohnCena-ew1mf]

Didn't happen, they made it up for the show. Peck and Sledge got along really well in real life.

[@jesusblanco5077]

True they were friends in pavuvu

[@datboi9648]

I heard that this scene and it’s characters where made to resemble not Peck but just new guys in general. Their scenes were more so to represent over all the cycle of new faces that came and went. Don’t know if that’s true though.

[@wukanimation]

@@datboi9648 he’s a composite character, him and hamm. They’re meant to represent the dozens upon dozens of replacements who came in, only to die so soon their names weren’t remembered. It really is grim, and Sledge notes it as one of the saddest things he experienced in the war. He was a very friendly guy who enjoyed the presence of others, and refraining from getting to know new people because they were going to die was tough for him spiritually.

[@wukanimation]

@@datboi9648 the sad thing is though, this event happened. Sledge watched one of his friends, a veteran of Glouster and Peleliu, just suddenly snap. Sledge tripped him before he could expose himself to Japanese rifle fire. The man hit the ground sobbing, pissing himself and curling up like a baby. The dude just hit his limit. His was evacuated, and no one thought less of him. The sad thing is every single one one of their brains was a ticking time bomb, and any one of them could do the same at any moment.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

There’s nothing here to show they aren’t friends. It’s not uncommon for marines or soldiers to fight eachother and unlike most civilians a physical confrontation doesn’t mean the end of their friendship. Peck did something incredibly stupid here and any veteran would react the same, not only did he get a brother killed, he almost died himself. Both are rage inducing on the line.

[@cameronkedas3375]

I felt sad when I saw Hamm(with two m’s) get shot because of peck’s uncalled for actions getting somebody else killed in the crossfire over his sanity. Like what Lt. Welsh said in Band of Brothers and many other veterans, “war is hell.”

[@imawsomeandyournot6108]

So fucking tired.

[@rmorgan7653]

So fucking tired of hearing about covid19 everyday

[@brndesk]

Anyone know the story? Peck was pulled off the line and from second squad, where did he go? Section 12 or the rear with the gear

[@Jeidjeneudejendu]

Section 12 probably

[@Royalmerc]

Peck in the show is a mix of a couple different marines in Sledges book.

[@paquitolpm6419]

@@Royalmerc yess, and Hamn wasn't mentioned in the book, so this scene is pure fiction.

[@mansourbellahel-hajj5378]

@@paquitolpm6419 maybe it was mentioned in Burgin's book.

[@michaelmurphy3273]

@@paquitolpm6419 no. It is a composite of concomitant factors of misery, fatigue, and frustration resulting from protracted environmental misery, sleep deprivation and stalemated Frontline movement over a long period. Meaant to portray the endless drearyness of Frontline life at certain points.

[@mr.tryhardguitarguy2842]

Fuck ups are the downfall of good hard working people.

[@vincentrobles1848]

Good hard working people don’t see anybody as fuck ups. Maybe hard working, but not good.

[@mr.tryhardguitarguy2842]

@@vincentrobles1848 Oh shut it you idiot. Dude literally died because of his moronic actions and you'll still try and type your tumblr quotes

[@brunoair4759]

Evian fisher snafubar kkkkkkkk