The Panel Antenna Antenna Basics

In this video we build a very basic panel antenna using an online panel antenna calculator.
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[@MirceaVlad]

I think this video is really underappreciated. I built this antenna following all the details and I obtained a very good antenna. I even measured it with a NanoVNA and it is spot on channel 3. It was one of the easiest 2.4GHz antennas I've built. I must admit that the only question I have is regarding the length of the inset feedline. Why is that 15.6mm long? I know that is twice the 7.8mm, but why?

[@LotosAndEarth]

for 50 Ohm i suppose not for 75 ohm cable

[@MQM360]

Can you be more specific?? Are you considering wire Ohms to build antenna

[@merituum7193]

@@MQM360 to match the impendance of antenna to the cable

[@thecentralscrutinizer5105]

Yeah!!!...More Andrew RF video's!!! You're my Idol my man ;) ~Whirled Peas

[@andrewmcneil]

Glad you enjoy them 😀

[@FirstLast-jf9on]

@@andrewmcneil Hey Andrew, I'm just curious; can you add a parasitic element on a panel antenna.?

[@TuttleScott]

what advantages does a panel antenna have over other types? wouldn't a dipole in front of a reflector work just as well?

[@wlkilmer]

Thank you Andrew.

[@WYLMAS]

Is it possible to make it a wideband antenna? I am looking for something directional that would cover 4G bands from 800 MHz to 2.6 GHz

[@requiem4adreamc]

It would be awesome

[@LotosAndEarth]

try heelical or other wide band antennas

[@WYLMAS]

@@LotosAndEarth doesn't really work for my application as I want to put it into a weatherproof box together with the modem. A biquaq option that Andrew is working on now (recent video) is closed to what I am looking for.

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

How do you think the performance of this build would change if instead of the square panels, each panel wrapped around onto itself so there was an inner ring and outter ring but fed the ssme way.

[@kertjans8794]

When using the on-line calculator, what value to you enter for the Dielectric Constant for this design?

[@andrewmcneil]

4

[@EMNM22]

Im intrested in making my own indoor panel antenna for tv. Is it possible to use this style of antenna to recieve tv channel signals?

[@xsirfr1958]

Hi Andrew - I like this design, there is something very pleasing about its simplicity. If you were to array 4 of these in a row, would the pitch be about the same as the width? I am thinking to make a corporate feed on microstrip, on a 2 layer FR4 PCB, and the air patch elements would be mounted on the ground plane side, fed thru vias. What do you think?

[@djtahir7752]

Good job sir ...keep it ...

[@cyberjack]

you got a link to the threaded connectors ? .. thanks

[@eswnl1]

I tend to see a patch antenna as a glorified capacitor. If I measure the VSWR, you'd think it would higher than 1:1 due to this capacitance, but it's not. So I'm a bit confused.

[@stevefox3763]

What sort or gain does it have and how do you determine vertical or horizontal polarisation when its square and symmetrical, I'd like to try one for FPV and it looks more compact than a 2.4ghz double bi quad, how do the two compare? I'm looking for the most directional and high gain on 2.4ghz for FPV.

[@FirstLast-jf9on]

well, you can basically see how he positioned the antenna.

[@cgsample9948]

No need for the blasting music.

[@eswnl1]

These KZbinrs need to dumb down their videos a bit to get those extra views.

[@onetwothreefourfivesixlemo638]

What do you think of the 2.4ghz curtain antenna designs?

[@vyrtualtecnologia]

Have you seen the Mikrotik MantBox 52? They are dual band and are made with gutter cans. If you have an Email I'll send you a photo but I recommend buying one for testing. Really interesting. I use it for precision farming.

[@jukkapekkaylitalo]

Can you make video going more detail about feed taps, and is there some formula what those lengths should be? Also how to make defective ground structure. Does the spot and shape of those make much difference? I tried to find info about them, but most research papers. Only cover other dimensions, but not the feed tap gap and DGS.

[@sgalien6661]

Hi Andrew, question... When you say about getting the nano test equipment to refine the ant could you perhaps show how to refine, give several examples please as this is something we dont see anywhere! Kind regards Chris A

[@billysgeo]

have you ordered a nanoVNA yet??

[@cristianmonacelli5180]

Hi, good video, im making this antenna for university. How thick is the brass sheet?

[@razblack]

is it possible to combine two patch panel antennas together to say tune one for 2.4 and another for 5Ghz?

[@andrewmcneil]

Somebody as just asked the same question. I have read about stacked panels before but I have never made one. Maybe I will give it a go. 😀

[@Jonny10001]

Hi Andrew, the online calculator doesn’t mention the coax connection strip. The length, width or the amount to cut in. I wish to make an antenna for 1278MHz. .

[@andrewmcneil]

No it doesn’t the design of the strip feed is a whole other area of RF. That’s why in the video I say that starting with 1/8 wavelength is a good place to start.

[@americanmegatrends1406]

БОЛЬШОЕ ВАМ СПАСИБО !!!

[@luc5543]

How would you go about making one for both 2.4 and 5 GHz? Make a smaller square, put it in front of the 2.4 panel?how is the sma cable connected in this case?

[@andrewmcneil]

I have seen them stacked but never tested or build one myself.

[@luc5543]

@@andrewmcneil that'd be nice to see in a video, especially for LTE purposes :)

[@fiorenzomass827]

Nice video ! Are the spacers made of insulating material? How do you calculate the size of the reflector? Thank you

[@TonyLing]

They are black nylon I believe, so yes, an insulator.

[@FrederickHyltonDei]

Please, could you make batwing antenna and make your comments on its performance.

[@mamupelu565]

How do you setup the antenna-osciloscope to see it's efficiency?

[@cosmefulanito5933]

Is not an ociloscope. It's a spectrum analyzer.

[@gammaleader96]

@@cosmefulanito5933 It's a network analyzer to be more precise. By the looks of it a scalar version (atleast like he uses it). However, a setup video would still be pretty interesting. Especially since a network analyzer needs to be calibrated for each measurement with known open, short and load standards.

[@m0rc0v]

if this works for 2.4GHz spectrum, will it work for the 868 MHz too or we have to change some things ?

[@andrewmcneil]

You would have to change it's size

[@m0rc0v]

@@andrewmcneil ok, thanks.. but any formula/hint how to calculate the size ?

[@andrewmcneil]

@@m0rc0v Here you go just use the dielectric constant of air which is 1 www.pasternack.com/t-calculator-microstrip-ant.aspx

[@m0rc0v]

@@andrewmcneil wow... thanks... and the dielectric height is the E from the little drawing? ie, the distance between the 2 plates ?

[@andrewmcneil]

@@m0rc0v yep if you play around with the height it is interesting how much this effects the size of the element.

[@charlesjoshualabtang2193]

What is the gain of this antenna?

[@andrewmcneil]

8db

[@charlesjoshualabtang2193]

@@andrewmcneil is there a way to increase gain of this type of antenna?

[@andrewmcneil]

@@charlesjoshualabtang2193 by adding multiple elements in an array

[@cosmefulanito5933]

Talk more loudly or turn down the music.

[@andrewmcneil]

Your probably right

[@stridermt2k]

Show of hands: Who else is watching antennas at 7:22 UTC? (me) 73 de N2NLQ

[@andrewmcneil]

😁