The Patrick Mahomes GOAT talk is over! - Stephen A. on the Chiefs' loss to Tom Brady | First Take

[@mikea2073]

Brady had to beat Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes that’s just insane

[@kasperrieberg3495]

He’s defense beat them

[@nathan_drake1237]

@@kasperrieberg3495 And his Offense beat their defense! It's the Same thing basically, no difference

[@Terror832]

The GOAT Taylor Heinicke is better than all of them

[@damianpresha5155]

@@nathan_drake1237 The difference he not on the field against those offenses.

[@Phatooine]

@@kasperrieberg3495 __ If the Bucs had beat the Chiefs 10-9, you have a point. But the final was 31-9. So you're just making that up.

[@alpha_male_s]

If you think the super bowl settled the GOAT discussion then you don’t know football. This GOAT discussion was over wayyyy before the super bowl!

[@kalilbell]

facts

[@piccolo5346]

Stating the obvious to get cheap likes!!

[@thefluffythinker773]

AMS is in the house!!!!

[@jamesross29]

Exactly. He’s so young, he hasn’t even had 5 years under his belt. He could potentially be the greatest someday but it’s way too early in his career to even consider him the greatest.

[@jalves6494]

It was over after the Atlanta game, everything now is transcending football and now among Jordan, Ali, Tiger Woods tier of dominance

[@LaidBack--]

Shouldn't have ever started... who realistically puts somebody in the GOAT conversation based off one SB run??🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@henrympittman6452]

Thank you. It made no sense to me as well

[@edwincollins5847]

Patrick mahomes had his team won. I think they would say tom Grady is great but not the “Goat”. Media creates the narrative. And maybe have Patrick on par as skill with Tom Brady. If he had won. Everything would have changed if Patrick had won

[@Nbafanla03]

MaFraud just got lucky that’s all

[@theyoungyeezus4930]

True

[@chillvibed]

Today's generation of people who 1. have short term memory loss 2. Bunch of haters who wanna ignore your accomplishments and hype someone else up

[@SA-rk2lv]

Tom Brady’s kids going to the Super Bowl is like them going to their grandmas house

[@Shyguy9231]

When Brady doesn't make the Superbowl I heard his daughter cries and asks why they're not going lol

[@Hydrodose]

His kids have held the trophy more than most organisations lol

[@tolen1689]

Tom Brady kids be tired of disney world

[@dextew69]

Lmaoooo

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

We wanna go to Superbowl World, Daddy!

[@lilb1190]

I mean, he didn't have a great game but he was running for his life the whole game.

[@ThePasterio]

Yes, yes. Finally. And he could do nothing. Lol

[@redhunnid5142]

Give Brady the same oline Mahomes had and he would be having temper tantrums on the sidelines 💯

[@lilb1190]

@@redhunnid5142 yes and no. Brady would have gotten lit up pretty badly, but he also would have thrown almost exclusively short slants. He would have drawn illegal contact calls because the ball would be gone and players just want to hit him. Mahomes has the ability to evade tackles and still make an accurate pass, so his instinct is to draw out the play and try to make something happen. Tom Brady isn't about to leave the pocket for anything, so he would opt for quick throws. He would also not abandon the run, even if it wasn't working. Lucky for him his line was great and the defense was even better.

[@johnbless1423]

@@lilb1190 and Brady has so many weapons to dish the ball to.

[@bigingtv7315]

@@lilb1190 fact of the matter is O line matters Idc how great you are and they’re very important.If they don’t perform it will also be a long night for the qb.Tom woulda or got fucked up even worse.

[@MaloneIG]

when the receivers weren’t catching the ball mahomes didn’t look good - Stephen a smith

[@jeremiahpierre7405]

😭😭😭😭

[@nickshowtimez8924]

@UCSZqSmcIIAhPpAu5ywF7AOA sound salty

[@cantu7214]

both can be true statements

[@ronoarchie9704]

He made an incredible throw falling down....... BRADY DA BOSS

[@LegendaryMamba24]

Right... What is he gonna do, throw to himself? people actin like Mahomes dropped to a mediocre quarterback or something

[@shoobie15]

It’s funny how quick ppl turn on you after one bad game or loss

[@ghost-_4298]

Fax man they probably stayed on his meat when he won a lot of his games

[@beatriznavarro1668]

Its life, its no personal

[@focused4841]

Its not just one bad game its the superbowl dude

[@robertsawney7901]

@@focused4841 I get that biggest game of the year but the disrespect I’ve seen so far is outrageous it’s a lot of terrible takes and not talking into consideration the circumstances. Considering how relentless that pass rush was I generally don’t think anyone could have won that game. Not Brady not brees Rodgers manning no qb in the history could’ve won that game. Mahomes didn’t play well but with how bad the line was there was no help around him and it’s a team sport don’t forget that

[@robertsawney7901]

@@Prez16 I kinda hear that but my point still stands I don’t think anyone qb in the history of the game could have won that game 🤷🏽‍♂️ they were beating the tackles like 1 second after the snap u think anyone else could’ve won that game 😭😭

[@nancychisholm8186]

If Tom Brady fell off a cliff he’d win two superbowls before he hit the ground , and then win two more

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

Ms Chrisholm, you're awesome!

[@daftwulli6145]

Goats live on cliffs

[@rahulyalamanchili3775]

Mahomes scrambling was like what Russell Wilson has been doing all year

[@topimp93]

*Carson Wentz

[@Terror832]

Lowkey it reminds me of Johnny Manziel back in Texas A&M days.

[@Dontappo]

@@topimp93 you should be banned from the comment section saying that man name

[@shreymanchanda1356]

Lamar

[@kalilbell]

@@shreymanchanda1356 you just compared a running back to a qb

[@RTNFlacko]

Did stephen a really say that when the receivers couldn't get open mahomes isn't all that? Thats literally for EVERY QB WHO HAS EVER PLAYED

[@knavar6314]

Except Lamar, his receivers can’t get open or catch passes and it his fault

[@RTNFlacko]

@@knavar6314 i never said anything about lamar. He needs a big weapon but another thing is that he has got to get out of that scheme no one wants to play for a run heavy offense especially when your a great receiver

[@bohhnybro8640]

RIGHT lmaoo if his receivers arent open, stephen a expects him to.... what? the bucs defense killed them. Had nothing to do with Mahomes playing bad, all tho he could have had a better game.

[@RTNFlacko]

@@bohhnybro8640 the man expects mahomes to catch the ball, run the ball, return the ball, play defense, and throw.

[@knavar6314]

RTNFlacko I’m alluding to similar situation Lamars had all year, bad pass protection, no receiver separation, dropped passes. Every QB gets some type of context like Mahomes is getting now but the same isn’t afforded to Lamar. G Ro needs to go absolutely. Harbaugh too

[@Terror832]

The throw Mahomes made on 4th and 9 was ridiculous. Falling down and still able to make the long pass. Too bad the receiver dropped the pass. Summed up the night for the Chiefs

[@nahimgood8546]

that entire game was just mahomes vrs the world

[@brettt141]

Yup mahomes throwing up prayers and his luck not being high enough

[@mrallenbruce1]

Facts!

[@acethehooligan5972]

Considering he threw it to. A running back who can’t catch to save his life

[@kcp1760]

Yes and he also had 0tds in a superbowl lol

[@dmn1447]

I feel like tom brady took Max's lunch money as a kid.

[@sugar4me225]

Tom also stole his girlfriend:)

[@mikexxxmilly]

Max is a staunch liberal so anyone that isn’t white automatically takes precedence

[@DragonHeart613]

@@mikexxxmilly What does being liberal got to do with sports???

[@railguncs]

@@DragonHeart613 everything, liberals are liberals to everything

[@priztucker]

Oprah Winfrey: "You get a car, you get a car, and you get a car..." Tom Brady: "You get a Ring, You get a ring and you get ring"

[@koi3277]

Unless you're Randy Moss

[@priztucker]

@@koi3277 Ouch that hurts to this day

[@DoubleDash28]

Brady the Goat

[@ballin4life2902]

Underrated comment, facts 👏

[@evacody1249]

Brady: And I get my seventh ring.

[@NateWongSongs]

Stephen A has morphed into the Skip Bayless role from the Skip and Stephen A era.

[@tacotacotington3638]

You say that because neither of them will ignore the facts, Tom is the best. The newer younger ones are always pushing for the next big thing

[@kratoids]

they are both absolutely correct when it comes to Brady though he is undeniably the goat

[@MoonlightCactus]

Let's see how many subscribers i will get in this comment Current Subscribers: 57

[@Berkmnn]

@@MoonlightCactus let’s see how fast you get ghost banner posting comments like this

[@focused4841]

@@kratoids its not even close hes in his own league imo

[@bobbygreene7748]

This should never have been a discussion. Pat is an amazing player - and will be one of the greats of the game by the time he's done. But in order to be considered the GOAT, you have to put together several years of elite performance...not just 2 or 3.

[@HintOfLogic]

Agreed. It does make for interesting comparison but the rhetoric should be more like "Will Mahomes go on to have a career like the GOAT Tom Brady?" It's just waaaay to early in his career for GOAT talk. It's like putting him up their as Jordan of the NFL.

[@kvngcorn4851]

Lamar could’ve done the same thing and no one would’ve came to his side

[@kkwjsshh718]

hey, i was waiting to come back go your comment, carry a final injures, THE GOAT

[@BryantThompson-it4dz]

Bro Patrick mahomes is the fastest quarterback to 70,000 yards he's already the goat and ahead of the Brady Superbowl pace

[@athrinean]

Max kellermen is the one who's falling off a cliff with his Tom Brady analysis.

[@lemonman823]

It’s like Mahomes isn’t scared of the big moment but his whole organization is 😂

[@AA-ji2my]

Exposed!!!!! They exposed that boy fraud fake

[@quadrebain9660]

What did you watch? Mahomes looked nervous & scared the whole night

[@ePhoram]

@@quadrebain9660 no he didn't lmao what game did you watch, no o line, the receivers were dropping passes, and the defense wouldn't stop getting flags lmao he was the only one that wanted to win

[@quadrebain9660]

@Jayhxu go look at his face during the super bowl, he was shook

[@quadrebain9660]

@@ePhoram he started the game 2-10, stop making excuses for him. Talk about how he kept running backwards in circles then throwing up prayers. He should’ve called some run plays to get tampa out of cover 2. He isn’t on that level as a quarterback to read and adapt.

[@wavesonswim8128]

The age thing is what makes this so dope. Football careers are short. Even for QB’s.

[@10mangakid]

And the fact that mahomes didn’t score a single touchdown.

[@greatbingus]

a zerrrrrro touchdowns 3 field goals

[@nightelfuser]

Mahomes has been playing in the NFL for like 3 years, why's he already considered a legend? These commentators are nothing but cheerleaders and fanboys.

[@Zeldaturtles]

MVP at age 24 and has shattered most passing and TD records at his age. Don't be ignorant

[@manuelastoria679]

@@Zeldaturtles and just took the biggest L in his career. Will he bounce back? Yeah but this L will never be forgotten lmao

[@kingnano1172]

@@manuelastoria679 why we acting like Brady ain’t get beat by a Giants team that had no business beating the Pats at that time? 😂

[@manuelastoria679]

@@kingnano1172 because now he has 7rings lol the sorry as giants got 2 on him and are irrelevant lmao

[@demetriussmith9234]

@@manuelastoria679 he lost to the goat this doesn’t hurt his career it’s not like mahomes wasn’t getting hit but still throwing dots but players dropping the pass

[@markrobinson9394]

“Does he need to catch the ball too?” That sounds very familiar. *** cough *** Wes Welker *** cough *** Super Bowl 46 *** cough ***

[@noteminemsburneraccount324]

For real all he has to do is catch the faucking ball and that game is over

[@peakpiece7137]

Mahomes already has 4 INTs in his 2 SBs. Brady has 6 INTs in his 10 combined.

[@ckq]

Game manager. Tom Brady's Career Start 2001: Carried by D, Tuck Rule 2002: Missed Playoffs and Pro Bowl 2003: Carried by D, missed Pro Bowl again 2004: Solid, but still carried by D 2005: Mediocre 10-6 without an elite defense, first round exit 2006: Carried by defense but still lost AFCCG 2007: MVP season, but lost to his daddy since he wasn't getting carried 2008: injured and Matt Cassell led them to 11-5 2009: mediocre 10-6, first round exit even with an elite defense. This is what Patrick Mahomes is being compared to: Mahomes has had a way better career start than Brady who missed the playoffs at the same age as Mahomes Mahomes' Career Start 2018: MVP in first season with worst defense in the league, robbed of Superbowl by refs, Dee Ford, and Coin Toss 2019: Injured, came back and won 8 straight to win the Superbowl with so many clutch performances while having average defense 2020: Made 3rd straight Pro-Bowl (Brady missed it in his 2nd and 3rd season), definitely deserving of MVP contention, Superbowl appearance despite having Turf Toe, Concussion, and third string O-line and mediocre defense Patrick Mahomes first 3 years in the NFL >>> Brady's first 10.

[@sebastianv.3284]

Montana has 0 interceptions in all his super bowl games

[@Goodpatron]

Staggering 😁

[@peakpiece7137]

@@ckq Didn't read, don't care. Eat this 7th.

[@vincegonzalez6804]

@@ckq haha you’re such a Brady hater and a Mahomes fan boy. It’s okay. Brady started his career in a way different era. Mahomes era is that of protection to the QB. Pat will most likely never have to encounter an ACL and MCL tear like Brady did and his receivers will not have to face getting whacked in the middle of the field.

[@cam.crosby]

I changed this comment so now you have no idea why it has so many likes

[@jalves6494]

It would of been an even worse overreaction if Mahomes won the game being proclaimed the best player of all time by everyone on ESPN way to early in his career. It would of gone both ways.

[@brycewoodford7174]

He won a single Super Bowl and somehow he got in the convo for the greatest ever. That was the real overreaction.

[@michaelrumanowski1250]

But it's not an overreaction. This game will forever stain him vs. Brady.

[@datsapaddlin6449]

@@jalves6494 Yeah I get he’s fun to watch and great but they assume everyone can be the goat off one ring lol.

[@MalakhiW]

I wanted Bucs to win but we all can admit that game isn't on mahomes

[@Euluhgy]

SAS is pure entertainment... that's all no sports talk should be taken seriously... carry on

[@christianmcmahon1029]

But your job is to talk sports not say stupidity

[@skipbayless4375]

@@christianmcmahon1029 but that doesn't get views, just look at myself for example

[@NobleVagabond2552]

@@christianmcmahon1029 its entertainment. Thats it

[@christianmcmahon1029]

@@skipbayless4375 honestly I’d take you over Max Kellerman. He’s a dumbfuck

[@christianmcmahon1029]

@@NobleVagabond2552 you’re an analyst, not an entertainer If you’re gonna try to entertainer least say something smart

[@JaydenFlores]

Patrick Mahomes: gets the ball The offensive line: ight ima head out

[@ILoveYou-sg5bi]

Everybody: mahomes now isn't the goat

[@ILoveYou-sg5bi]

Smfh

[@MattyV3]

Now peeps know what it feels like to be a ravens fan

[@Abbad1579]

@@ILoveYou-sg5bi He was never the goat to begin with.

[@courvoisiercullum789]

He the goat but he’ll never be a Tom Brady idgaf what nobody say💯

[@Lycan4647]

Bradys gonna have his own statue when he retires.

[@sportsnowwithdariusaiden1257]

He should honestly be in the Hall of Fame while he’s still playing!!!! We are witnessing flat out greatness right now! We have a sports show called Sports Now with Darius & Aiden and we would really appreciate it if you would check us out!

[@jackofalltrades8933]

Duh 🙄

[@hecslove4972]

Yea in his home

[@victorhardin2186]

Where ? Cause new england isnt having it. Hes dead to them

[@racso452]

At every stadium

[@kevkeisha]

I love Stephen A., but when was Mahomes EVER a part of the "GOAT" discussion? How could he be? He is 25 with one ring!

[@sportsmedia9647]

Espn called him that

[@inigo4244]

You know Tom Brady only had one ring at 25, he won his second at 26, but hes in the goat discussion, so I don't think its fair to say Mahomes can never be part of it

[@rwoosh6609]

@@inigo4244 tom won 3 rings before losing a single playoff game.and he was never talked about as the goat.Pat had played 3 SEASONS and people are actually like he a 15 year vet and 5 superbowls.he cant be even considered the goat until at least 6-8 rings

[@VolcardoReviewer]

He’s the best qb we’ve seen since Marino so yeah.

[@dannyberrones273]

Man what id give for just half of those holding calls in last years superbowl...whole different outcome!

[@ryanjameson8959]

It's crazy how easy it is for football fans to drop a belief after a single game

[@TheDestructodave520]

Its a belief that should have never existed. It would be like saying Brady is the GOAT aftrer his first super bowl win, or even his 2nd, over Montana. Meanwhile, Brady didnt even get a reluctant GOAT until he won 5 rings. Even at 4 he wasnt considered GOAT. But People were already labeling Mahomes the GOAT off 1 ring.

[@l.sweeney9924]

@ryan Jameson Big facts! Although it may have been a SB loss, but Brady has had SB losses too, no matter the score. Mahomes will be back next season and better than ever, count on it!

[@tbirum]

@@l.sweeney9924 Yes he will, and people are acting like P.H played bad, (HE DIDN'T) if this had been any other QB they would have lost 55-3 P.H did what he could do, Travis Kelce caught 10 pass for like 130+ yards, but he did have that one costly drop. PH and TK were the only 2 Chiefs players who showed up. All of that being said. Brady at age 43 beat a 25 year old QB Brady is 7-3 in SB's and PH is 1-1 I do not see PH playing until age 43 So lets say he plays till 40 (which I feel is a fair number) (keep in mind with all of his scrambling and running he puts himself at a higher risk of injury then a pure pocket passer like Brees of Brady) PH has 15 years left in order to get 7 more SB wins that is NOT an easy task (for any QB) Brady is the G.O.A.T I think PH is the best QB playing in the NFL ATM (better then Brady, better then Lamar, Better then Arod, better then Russel Wilson) But G.O.A.T Status is determined by Career numbers and I just do not see PH getting to Brady's level (even though they are switching to 17 game regular seasons which means PH will have extra games over his career to pad his numbers.

[@l.sweeney9924]

@@tbirum for me, the GOAT status is not what bothers me, it's the fact there was a comparison in the first place. He's only 4 years into the league at 25 years old. Let him build his own legacy. Who started the GOAT talk, we didn't🤷🏾‍♀️

[@wishingb5859]

@@TheDestructodave520 I was watching an interview Oprah did with Tom Brady a few years ago and he said that he felt that the young players have been done a disservice because they are hyped as if they had accomplished something when they were actually just beginning their careers. He didn't say it about Mahomes. He said it about the culture.

[@KG-jw4jg]

Can’t believe people mentioned his name into goat conversation after 1 sb

[@braydenwoodsthebest3484]

You have no credibility

[@KG-jw4jg]

@@braydenwoodsthebest3484 what?

[@justicerobinson4662]

Fr

[@j_c_d_b]

Can we let this guy play 15 seasons first lol

[@Isaac1ofone]

Let’s hope Mahomes doesn’t end up having a Aaron Rodgers career.

[@fro-nominal4145]

Don't worry, Mahomes salary cap is going to cripple the chiefs in the near future. Just you wait and see.

[@17RedKnight]

Dude, Mahomes got a 500 mil contract. There won't be money for a quality all around team. It really is looking like he'll wind up like Rodgers

[@joaobrito2653]

He might. I think both he and the chiefs made a huge mistake by signing a 10 year deal of 40 million a year. They won have the cap to keep good players unless they take pay cuts, and that never happens unless it’s the patriots because football is such a violent sport and folks wanna get their money to make sure they are good for their life after football. Brady by signing shorter deals forced the patriots to have to keep trying to get good teams because otherwise Brady could leave. Kansas City now can’t really get good players and they also don’t have to because mahomes is locked for 10 years. Also, in the last 15 years, no team that won the super bowl had a top paid quarterback

[@savvytactics7740]

Disrespectful to Rodgers, Mahomes would be lucky to have his career. We saw last night that Mahomes looks like a lot of other QBs (Darnold, Jackson, and Wentz come to mind) when he doesn't have wide open guys and time to throw.

[@joaobrito2653]

@@savvytactics7740 tell me one qb who looks good without time to throw and with no left tackle, a guard who hadn’t played all year. Peyton Manning looked garbage against that Seahawks team in a year where the Broncos broke just about every offensive record there was to break

[@ShanellM]

He has only one championship, the “GOAT talk” hadn’t even started, even if he had won this it wouldn’t have even started it would have kept the door open for the potential debate 10-15 years from now later in his career depending on how many championships he won, but the GOAT debate including Mahomes had never even started.

[@RabiaaHQ]

All true but Max started it since last year.

[@rheamoore2954]

Yes i agree, mahomes has the potential but no where near close yet

[@gimmedaloot8168]

Anyone who isn’t retarded sees mahomes is already the greatest talent of all time the goat discussions is already over after he threw 5000 50 tds his first year his highlights are better than every nfl player put together

[@dgray8979]

It’s been my understanding that people have said mahomes could be a GOAT candidate some day. I recall max saying “he’s the most talented QB he’s ever seen”. Which is different than saying he’s the GOAT.

[@s.s7337]

@@gimmedaloot8168 And yet he has more INT than TDs in the two Superbowls he's played

[@Tderesse]

Mahomes loses in the postseason:"oh well, he did everything he can. It's a team sport and his teammates failed him. Lamar throws 365 yrs, rushes 143 yrds and throws 2 picks: "ah I told you he's a bust! He didn't stop derrick henry, didn't let his receivers catch the ball, and didnt help his O-line and was absolutely out coached. He failed his team. "

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@mfgoat4367]

Mahomes did everything he could and lamar did everything they just disrespecting lamar

[@NFLtoUFC]

lmao mahomes was playing on his own dude

[@bafoonerysamurai6911]

@@NFLtoUFC so does Lamar 😂

[@sleepyhead9732]

Because Lamar is trash he can’t throw. All he throw is to Mark Andrews for a 5 yard TD in end zone.

[@skyindigo2085]

Hearing max crying puts a smile on Brady’s face 😂😂😂

[@allenkatz3198]

I think Brady could care less what he thinks!!

[@deluxeh0]

That’s why you always pick the opposite of these “analysts”

[@hipking23]

😂 😂 Facts 💯

[@dominiquetall5511]

If each analyst picks a different team then who do you pick? That point didn't make much sense lol. Skip and Shannon and Max and Stephen picked Different soooo

[@Xiicyy]

@@dominiquetall5511 😐...😑

[@r.d.9399]

These mouth pieces are getting more and more annoying

[@johncoffey2914]

Mahomie just told me the same thing last week 👍

[@theolddarksoul1129]

I have no idea why mahomes was getting goat talks so early to begin with

[@TAYLORGANG116]

Media, built him up and dumped him just as quick

[@ajgulag]

Because his stats and winning record had him on Pase to be the goat

[@carlosmanuel1106]

I dont know either. Anoybody who agress is actully retarted

[@MoonIronTR]

50 td and mvp as a rookie superbowl champ in 2nd year

[@theolddarksoul1129]

@@MoonIronTR he won the mvp in his second year & 1 title doesn't put you in goat talks till he wins 2 more titles Mahomes shouldn't be in any goat talks

[@shaykayback]

Brady somehow has the rings of Russell, the killer instinct of Jordan and the longetivity of LeBron.

[@hermonymusofsparta]

Great Comment

[@malcolm6107]

he didn’t have the killer instinct when he played Eli and Foles though

[@travelingtheworld8224]

He been around longer then LeBron so how can you compare his longevity to a guy who has played less years lmao.

[@elcayugaloco656]

This makes sense

[@3rdSupreme]

Stop mixing sports dummy.

[@wolfstar675]

Mahomes was like Rodgers last night. he was all by himself in there running for his life!

[@davidtristan3891]

Aaron had better protection than mahomes did though

[@MuhammadMoss722]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@xaviervasquez9909]

@@davidtristan3891 not much better, but i mean that’s why the packer game wasn’t a blow out like the chiefs game

[@ThePasterio]

He wasnt like Rodgers. Rodgers has a vg offensive line. That's how GB got back into the game against TB. Starting LT out and starting rb Jones knocked out game in 1st quarter.

[@davidhaley5597]

Brady paid his Linemen to go soft and not protect him, easy win!

[@razor-sharp]

The chiefs didn’t lose to Tom Brady they lost to the Bucs!

[@CWizzyTV]

Facts that defense was playing on a different level.

[@richardhernandez4819]

Thanks for saying it

[@guilhermelopes54]

Where were the bucs before brady?

[@Mj-uz1ng]

@@guilhermelopes54 facts

[@IMAWESOME1338]

17 years since yall touched even the play offs before brady . brady beat the chiefs the bucs helped

[@BMORETODAY]

Tom Brady is almost unreachable now. Undisputed GOAT!

[@kodakwhite1696]

He is certainty unreachable at this point

[@daocean1103]

He is because no qb will be on the teams he had and have a debatable call go his team's way in big games or things just fall in line as perfect as the bucs did. Lol

[@TheDestructodave520]

@@daocean1103 More like not many QBs of his caliber is going to take paycuts just to win. Brady's entire career has been about winning, and I dont think many players have that, regardless of what they say. They all want paid. Even with Brady taking less money, some of those Patriots teams were just terrible, and he was still winning.

[@moneyblue8466]

@@kodakwhite1696 nah people beat the bucs many times

[@jnixx34]

lets have this talk 10 years form now

[@oscaramaral9502]

If hes still in the league

[@oscaramaral9502]

@Mustafa Mohamud so mahomies is only 15 years old?

[@oscaramaral9502]

@Mustafa Mohamud finally you edited your previous comment

[@DoubleDash28]

Naw it’s over Brady the goat

[@Panther2323]

@@DoubleDash28 obviously Tom Brady is the goat but Patrick Mahomes has had the best career start. I’m not counting out Patrick Mahomes but we’ll just have to see in like 10 years from now.

[@marcusluceroholden2768]

Why he was even in the goat conversation to begin with I don’t understand

[@cjdonahoo101]

Bc he won a super bowl, made it to another, and almost made it to one more in his first 3 starting seasons. And only has like 10 total losses. The dude is still insanely talented regardless of last night.

[@thatleftyjames2893]

Because he's one of the greatest talents to ever play, he was no where close to the GOAT yet but everyone said there was a path in a decade or so.

[@devcarter1654]

Marcus Lucero Holden, Agree 💯. Just how does a QB get to be in the GOAT discussion after winning just one super bowl. Mahomes may be talented but he sure ain't the GOAT.

[@raymatp1]

@@cjdonahoo101 I think people are just easily jumping on mahomes bandwagon because of recency bias. He is a great QB, i understand that but every great QB also had that argument. You cannot call someone GOAT because they are insanely talented or because they won 1 SB early in their career or how few losses they had. You had to have something that separate you from great QBs to be called the GOAT. For example, Brady got 10 SB appearance, 7-3 record. Manning won back-to-back SB. Montana got 4-0 in SB. What does Mahomes have that he can brag to other QBs that are called GOATs?

[@thischannelisdead3165]

Bro just because he had one horrible night doesn’t mean he’s still not a great quarterback plenty of the good quarterbacks had that one horrible game they played

[@harrydawson7986]

Congrats tom. From a Pat's fan this was just as good to watch tb12 and gronk win another even with another team. Much love from the Patriot nation

[@cantu7214]

Now Mahomes knows what Watson and Wilson have to deal with on a yearly basis

[@mxrdyj]

Bruh stop it. Mahomes ran over 500 yards behind the line of scrimmage trying to elude pressure, neither of the players you mentioned have ever had to do that

[@nicksims4584]

@@mxrdyj this is one time. If you average the amount of yards Deshaun has to run a game, that’s a pretty big number over 4 seasons

[@MaadhatsOnTwitch]

@@mxrdyj I've watched every game of Russell's Seahawk career and its 100% true

[@ajthelegend727]

@@mxrdyj rlly Deshaun does dis all da time cmon

[@smime5672]

@@ajthelegend727 he has literally never reached the amount of yards ran behind the line that Patrick mahomes did in this game what do you mean all the time

[@teddygramz9242]

The Bucs getting Vita Vea back in the playoffs was huge for that defense

[@sleepyhead9732]

Surprised he recovered pretty quick

[@lastofus35]

The goat discussion ended when brady came back from a 28-3 deficit against the falcons

[@thebarkingcrab]

Facts

[@UnemploymentScrub23]

It’s a team sport. I would say the Falcons choked more than Brady was clutch tbh.

[@jackduncan5442]

​@@UnemploymentScrub23 And I think you're an idiot.

[@kkwjsshh718]

it started again when mahomes carried a final injures

[@jamanwashington9478]

​@thefaceofunemployment1373 tom brady brought them back regardless of the situations. He has been doing this whole career with roster change. 6 game winning drives which is super bowl record. Team sport but he was the main reason they won

[@nataniell6230]

There is no way you can blame Mahomes for yesterday

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

I agree

[@slimbeatz5619]

Facts

[@billysummers1616]

Quick passes would of worked, slants, dump offs, etc. He kept looking downfield knowing it wasn't there and he didn't have time, Mahomes definitely deserves some of the blame,especially for the amount of credit he gets and people acting like he's the second coming.

[@reneehaigh419]

They were too cocky

[@kcsniper1243]

@@billysummers1616 that was not on him the play calling was bad. Eric never adjusted to like you said more screens and short routes

[@dallasmarcum1416]

Nobody changes their mind faster than the Media. Personally I think Mahomes will have a very similar career to Lebron. Statistically having an unbelievable career, but forever being compared to somebody who’s been so dominant in the championship games.

[@MrYunus999]

I see Pat getting 6 of the next 10 rings... the Guy is 25 people talking like he 35 thats the Young Goat when he gets 35 he Will have atleast 7-8 rings... watch the chiefs get next years ring

[@dallasmarcum1416]

@@MrYunus999 there’s zero doubt in my mind that Patrick Mahomes is UNBELIEVABLE and will win plenty rings. But what I’m saying is that he will now be under the same microscope Lebron is under because he’s being compared to a goat too early in his career. That path just got much more difficult.

[@smoovemoves2917]

This is so tru!

[@vulcanraven9701]

@@dallasmarcum1416 Lebron overrated. Dude just flees to different allstars everytime. He isnt even a great defender like kareem mike or others.

[@mitchrapp5214]

Lebron doesn't even have the stats just media manipulation

[@DanielRGonza]

Dam Stephen A 😂 dude career ain’t even close to being over

[@playgroundofsound7683]

Happy tom brady history month

[@noominiacal]

You really think he's got a shot to go to another 8 Super Bowls, winning 6 of them? You have to understand how ridiculously efficient Brady is at winning. He has more Super bowl championships than any FRANCHISE! What franchise has the most? New England with 6. Which were won by Tom Brady.

[@Jon155mt]

He still butthurt that Rodgers will never be as good as Mahomes.

[@yoda9256]

@@noominiacal Pittsburgh has 6...

[@wazemo2764]

@@Jon155mt rodgers is much better than mahomes.

[@ShadowGamingENT]

I like how mahomes get every excuse but Lamar gets DRAGGED across the whole network

[@sergioduran8556]

I didn’t see mahomes throw a pick six when he had all the time in the world in the playoffs mahomes threw those picks bc there wr couldn’t catch Lamar threw it straight at the guy

[@TomPraytor]

please don't compare the two. one of them can throw the football.

[@afo4478]

Don't ever compare the two because one throws the ball and gets Ws

[@cj-qt6mj]

Lamar is far more overhyped then mahomes and mahomes is very overrated. Best believe in the 2021 season mahomes will be nothing like he was these last 3 years 👌

[@maxjones8641]

@@sergioduran8556 I seen Patrick two 2 int and have 54 completion percentage lol

[@markdouglas9182]

Props to Stephen A. He was one of very few sportscasters who has consistently said we need to put the brakes on crowning Mahomes as the "greatest".. " Future GOAT", and all that BS. Lets see a bigger body of work. Lets see him under duress.. with less weapons and bad Offensive line, etc. Lets wait a while! Please!

[@parkerbloom5367]

Yes please, we need to wait for Patrick Mahomes career to be over and see where he is then

[@dakid5]

Doesn’t mean anything. Stephen A also said back in 2012 when bron lost his second finals he’s never going to be seen as the GOAT and now look at him , he’s got a GOAT Case.

[@robinschmalbrock5357]

As good as Mahomes is, he is overhyped. Until now he was consistently well protected by his O-line and never really had to run for his life like Watson and Wilson. He is extremely skilled as a QB, but there is more to it than skills. There's experience and leadership. He now has a chance to take the next step after experiencing this loss and being completely dominated by the opponent's D-line.

[@loganperry6540]

That wasn’t a bad oline, the was the worse performance by an oline in SB history....29 qb pressures

[@loganperry6540]

@@robinschmalbrock5357 Chiefs had a bad o-line this year. Schwartz fell off the deep end, fisher was inconsistent and Tardif sat out all year. Btw, Mahomes had two dropped TD passes yesterday. Mahomes never had a chance. Terrible gameplan, kelce and hill dropping passes. Of course he’s going to look overhyped when you just look at the box score

[@tigerhoods7927]

You just know max, Shannon and nick are sick this morning 😂

[@Skip2LOU]

Mahomes still a great, and only 3 years in lol. We gone be back almost every year lol. He just not jordan of football, he lebron 😂

[@liluzi7173]

Lebron wouldn’t have lost to a 43 year old Jordan at 25...

[@angrypatriots1446]

4 years in

[@omara6292]

Bro you need to work on your grammar.

[@Skip2LOU]

@EMANU Jones 😂😂 Good joke. With your logic you could’ve said the same thing for brady and the bucs after they got beat 38 to 3. Like 90% of the media did say afterwards. They just won the superbowl. Hate all u want, chiefs going almost every year.

[@JRKA]

Wait till his team isn’t as stacked. Just another QB.

[@ponypower8]

TB12 = GOAT. "Never underestimate the HEART of a CHAMPION" Stephen.

[@JC-fh5ql]

Poor mahomes, he had to play through what Rodgers and Russell Wilson have been going through most of their career, I don’t wanna hear any excuses

[@battyboifided6629]

What’s that bro?

[@elijenkins9412]

I know everyone especially (max Kellerman) just always makes excuses for this man deshaun Watson has had a offensive line like that his whole career.And plus look at mahomes supporting cast if Watson,Wilson,Lamar,Rodgers we’re on the chiefs they would do the same thing.

[@162iceguy]

Mahomes was scrambling like he was in a horror movie or something

[@inigo4244]

You can't blame him, his O-line let him get rushed every single play, its like they put money on the bucs and they wanted their defense to penetrate

[@hopehope5406]

@@inigo4244 we know that

[@Zeldaturtles]

He had no left/ right tackle and his right guard

[@zhangtse-shan6081]

Tom Brady has been “OUTMATCHED”/underdog his whole life including the combine! GOAT:)

[@fomalhauto]

I really enjoyed him Brady in the underdog role in the Super Bowl.

[@AngelofAnguish]

@@fomalhauto LIKEWISE! I'm a fan of "underdog" teams: the Bengals, the Jaguars, the Texans, the Dolphins, and the Panthers.

[@Kevon420]

He’s never been outmatched LOL

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

@@Kevon420 2000 *Orange* Bowl - Brady's last college game ever vs. The +23 point favorite Alabama Crimson Tide - Result - Brady passing for 500 yards and 5 TD's for a massive upset win.. And back when Th Orange Bowl meant something.. Care to hear about his huge upset win in the Citrus Bowl over Arkansas the year before? I'll wager you don't

[@TheDestructodave520]

Pretty much. Its crazy even now, even this superbowl, he was considered the worse player. His entire career they have bet against him, lol. Hes just not flashy. And these people like shinies and trinkets and crazy passes. Meanwhile Brady just out there winning.

[@josea5092]

Even if you hate or love Brady you have to give that man his props winning his 7th Super Bowl at the age of 43 to the best young QB and last years champs 😎

[@jamalkirkwood7926]

Last time I checked Mahomes don't play defense

[@ArganawkTLOD]

@@jamalkirkwood7926 he plays offense, how many points did they score in that game???

[@dantheman8152]

It was never a discussion! Let Mahomes continue to form his own greatness!

[@elijahsimeon9935]

This definitely hurt Mahomes but most of the blame goes to the Chiefs defense in the first half

[@quentincassell840]

No it don’t. The man got years and years left of playing and winning

[@adamv9892]

@@quentincassell840 it doesn’t hurt Mahomes because he has years left? That doesn’t make any sense 😂 we all know Mahomes has years left and will likely win more Super Bowls but a loss in the SB especially in this fashion hurts anyone’s legacy

[@tonyfarr2214]

True, but their were some questionable unsporsmanlike penalties and PI penalties. Other than that Patricks O line let him down

[@graydendonner3793]

@@adamv9892 Tom Brady lost a Super Bowl in similar fashion, so you sound stupid

[@quentincassell840]

@@adamv9892 Brady lost to Eli Manning twice so did that hurt his goat status? You not making sense. I guess it’s better to miss the playoffs or lose in the playoffs than the Super Bowl huh? Mahomes only been in the league 4 years fam. He has so many yrs ahead of him to accomplish things.

[@mor3beef]

This “discussion” ended 2 rings ago after the comeback against ATL. Matter a fact mahomes was never apart of the discussion to began. Only names I should ever hear are Young, Brady, LT, and Manning with Brady far ahead of everyone else. I’m a steeler fan btw🤝🤵🏿

[@chriswang2702]

Its Brady easily but I would also toss Jerry Rice in that convo

[@TheGreat1Four20]

What about Joe Montana? U kidding me?

[@TheGreat1Four20]

Joe Montana is better than everyone u just said other than Brady

[@TheGreat1Four20]

Im so shocked by your ignorant comment I gotta ask did u put Young over Montana?

[@BratatoChip]

@@TheGreat1Four20 Montana is 4 for 4 in Super Bowls. I’m with you he’s second behind Brady 💯

[@beanbow32]

This performance doesn't hurt the legend of Mahomes-- it reaffirms the critical nature of the role of Offensive Line in your success. These guys are stars.

[@TheDestructodave520]

It did hurt the legend of Mahomes. Because people arent gonna remember the O-line issues. People make fun of Brady for losing to Nick Foles but he threw for 505 yards and 3 TDs. Brady's O-line was also beat up and injured, and so was brady, during that Giants superbowl, but its never mentioned. Hes just mentioned as losing to Eli. Thats just how it is. Most of Brady's blemishes were decided by 1 score, and generally he had his team up. But they are considered massive blemishes on his record of greatness and he had to win 5-6 rings before those were even washed away and he could be better than Montana.

[@Psycho_Logical_631]

Thomas Edwards Patrick Brady Bayless Jr III 🐐 period

[@matt-sg7ox]

O-line issues aren’t going to be remembered? But that’s the main reason why the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl. Every time Mahomes hiked the ball the rushers were always close to getting him but he managed to throw the ball on some plays. The rushers broke threw the o-line letting Mahomes deal with almost getting sacked. Mahomes may have thrown some bad throws but other than that the whole team wasn’t cooperating with each other. It can’t affect the legend of Mahomes if the whole teaming wasn’t doing their job.

[@TheDestructodave520]

@@matt-sg7ox No, they wont in 8-10 years. You dont remember anything about that Patriots game except the helmet catch and the loss. People dont remember Brady threw for 505 yards and 3 TDs vs the Eagles. They just know he lost to Nick Foles. All people care about is whether you won or lost. Yea, right now its fresh in your mind, and maybe it'll stay fresh longer for Mahomes fans, but 10 years down the road people are not gonna care nor remember the specifics of this Superbowl, just like every superbowl before it. Your gonna remember a play here and there and thats it. A lot of teams go into superbowls and struggle due to injuries but do you remember it? No. All you remember is the outcome.

[@matt-sg7ox]

So it doesn’t affect the legend of Mahomes knowing that he has only lost 1 Super Bowl and yet has many years ahead of him to probably have more Super Bowl rings than Tom Brady. Patrick Mahomes has only been in the NFL for 4 years and has already been to the Super Bowl 2 times, I’m pretty sure this loss won’t really matter in the future and just be one of those losses that he learned from and made him a better quarterback.

[@c83j57]

Being a life long Washington “Football Team” fan I was proud to see how hard we played the Bucs and now seeing how KC went down Im holding my head much higher today! HTTR

[@Xervello]

Just remember, folks, Brady ran through the Legion of Boom in the 4th quarter of that Super Bowl. He was something like 10 for 10 with 2 touchdowns. Sayin' that (as a Brady fan) to give props yet again to those Giants teams and Eli the Brady killer.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

"31-9" How do like dem apples, Nick Wrong? Going 0-11 in your bets. I see you picking losers is returning back to form.. 🤣

[@accessb6744]

Nick does not deserve to be a sports analyst. He is biased for disrespecting TB12.

[@billysummers1616]

He's a clown, same guy that said Baker Mayfield is better than Josh Allen

[@earlruiz7866]

Clippers losing by 50 is worse😂

[@The1Mustache3]

Says the Clippers fan. He was right about the clippers last year. Hahaahah. Lakers baby

[@ricardogrant3317]

We still remember that clippers blew a 3-1 lead 😂 😂 that sh*t is still funny 😆

[@nomnsookeke4882]

Yet, here we are 3 years later and Mahomes has somehow wriggled his way back into the conversation. This is why I can’t ever take sports media seriously; they’re always prisoners of the moment

[@darkknight9086]

There shouldn’t be a “Patrick MaHomes goat talk” stop just stop

[@takeoffg4409]

But he will be , in Brady’s and Mahomes first 52 games, Mahomes have the same amount of rings, 52 MORE TDS AND 10 LESS INT, Hes not the goat now but HE WILL

[@yoda9256]

@@takeoffg4409 He has to win 8 superbowls. Let’s just see if he can win one more.

[@Centurylamar88]

@@takeoffg4409 nah he lost to a 43 yr old Brady on the team with the worst winning record in the four major sports, who hadn’t won a playoff series in 20 years

[@MrChaos-db9ox]

@@takeoffg4409 You honestly think a mobile QB is gonna last 20 year's not even in you're wildest dreams he'll have a few stellar season's I'm sure but once those legs go and he has to throw from the pocket we'll see how good he really is because I can already tell you he's light-years behind Brady when it comes to reading defense's I wanna see him succeed but his style of play isn't compatible with longevity

[@takeoffg4409]

@@Centurylamar88 but arod gets to be in the goat convo with Tom with one right: COLORISM

[@petercipparulo3364]

Breaking when your recivers can’t get open or don’t catch passes the qb looks bad 🤯

[@brettt141]

Please. You never gave that respect to anyone else. Mahomes was gifted a perfect situation and someone put mahomes into his place

[@VanBoutDat]

But Mahomes has so many weapons, they're unstoppable, Bucs got torched the first game. This is what I was hearing last week. Don't make excuses now

[@Dontappo]

@@VanBoutDat Exactly now its the all on recievers nd O-line

[@Terror832]

Or when you are pressured a SB record 29 times you will have it hard.

[@War_Maker]

@@brettt141 every comments you spam in replies shows how much of a moron you are.

[@donaldr.risner9579]

Bruh he was running for his life with backups . is anyone forgetting that 😂

[@davonross1022]

He got folded that one tackle so bad they threw a flag for Patty😂

[@donaldr.risner9579]

@@davonross1022 lol true i just hate the narrative that Brady crushed Mahomes when in all reality the Bucs defense won that game.

[@divinebeauty2070]

@@davonross1022 🤧🥴🤣😭

[@davonross1022]

@@donaldr.risner9579 well brady had 3-4 td to homes 0 the defense was really another plus for us

[@akallstar5]

@@donaldr.risner9579 The defense was just the cherry on top, the game was over regardless.

[@jusrarsh4109]

When you provoke the Goat, you catch a serious beat down. Simple Math kids. It’s simple math. #12

[@sidhoward5218]

Mahomes looked like Deshaun Watson, running for his life

[@abrahamjackson6019]

Yup

[@destineyflagg5656]

Naw lol I disagree

[@DreamFactories]

@@destineyflagg5656 You weren’t watching the game apparently.

[@destineyflagg5656]

@@DreamFactories yeah that’s what you think I was dummy actually I just don’t agree with him everyone is in title to there own opinion so stfu leave me alone

[@jeremiahhahn5107]

Now mahomes knows how Russ feels 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jonathanm8402]

Russ can't make half the throws Mahomes did last night

[@tjleaf3510]

@@jonathanm8402 Yes he can LOOL Russ is absolutely elite. And what throws was Mahomes making? They didn’t score a single TD 😭😂😂

[@Koji015]

@@tjleaf3510 Russ ain’t scoring in his position

[@kcking23]

@@tjleaf3510 Carried by LOB.

[@willsmith6291]

Lamar had this pressure all season

[@phuglee]

"Legend" lol guy has 1 superbowl. He has the same success as Trent Dilfer.

[@jackdonnell9878]

Did Trent dilfer go to afc championships in his first 3 years? Did he win a MVP?

[@V1CALMIGH7Y]

Didn’t he he get like the 3rd most touchdown passes in his first year starting

[@kpacug]

Or joe flacco

[@youthinkyouknowme5551]

When Mahomes is a SB MVP at age 39 & 43 and wins 3 SB's after the age of 39 and leads the league in passing TD's, Completions, Yards (5300) at age 44 get back to me in the year 2037 - Toss in that league MVP at age 40 also

[@cavelmordica3645]

Thank you!

[@BWillTheAddict]

Cant blame Pat for the loss even Kelce was dropping important passes. The pressure got to him and he still made spectacular throws

[@realisreal7736]

Andy Reid is 0-3 against Brady's teams in the playoffs

[@the4thrb2k]

Patrick mahomes did not look bad he was running for his life every possession and every body on the offense was selling him

[@308719236]

So like watson and wilson wentz look every season with bad coaches and o lines.

[@ThePasterio]

He got beat down by the Buc defense including Suh and Pierre Paul....

[@ReneParada]

When Brady missed Welker in SB 46, the media blamed Brady. When Brady lost in SB 42, when he led the team to a lead in the 4th quarter after being annihilated the whole game by the Giants D-line, he was blamed. When Brady lost SB 52, with all his stats that game, was blamed for not catching a pass and fumbled the ball when he tried to win the game from 80+ yards out. Yet for Mahomes, it was the O-line and the receivers not being open? He has Kelce and Hill, plus hardman and edwards-elaire. He has the Reid Bienemy coaching studs. What more does he need? They could not adjust, and that was it. They are not the team everyone thought was

[@UnknownRaiderGuy]

Chiefs got destroyed bottom line

[@jamessadik9478]

Basically Pat Mahomes can end up being the next Aaron Rodgers

[@thsu8]

The most skilled quarterback in the history of the world?

[@jamessadik9478]

@@thsu8 with only 1 superbowl win.

[@patrickbateman9115]

@@jamessadik9478 It's a team sport. Stop comparing quarterbacks. Mahomes is the most talented quarterback is the history of the game. Before it was Aaron. Brady admitted Rodgers is more talented

[@richardtyler3498]

@@thsu8 Gotta win.

[@patrickbateman9115]

@KyleTheOtaku Mahomes is the better quarterback. Stop. Last night proved it is a team sport and one player cannot do it by himself. Did Tom play defense? Did he pressure Mahomes? Did he coach the defense and chase Tyreek Hill? GTFO

[@hodgesqu]

Mahomes still has a ton a time, you never know what he might accomplish SA.

[@goatedjunior6931]

Mahomes was not 100% his oline was terrible

[@damian7509]

He ain't getting 7 rings

[@ckq]

@@damian7509 7 plastic rings mean nothing Tom Brady's Career Start 2001: Carried by D, Tuck Rule 2002: Missed Playoffs and Pro Bowl 2003: Carried by D, missed Pro Bowl again 2004: Solid, but still carried by D 2005: Mediocre 10-6 without an elite defense, first round exit 2006: Carried by defense but still lost AFCCG 2007: MVP season, but lost to his daddy since he wasn't getting carried 2008: injured and Matt Cassell led them to 11-5 2009: mediocre 10-6, first round exit even with an elite defense. This is what Patrick Mahomes is being compared to: Mahomes has had a way better career start than Brady who missed the playoffs at the same age as Mahomes Mahomes' Career Start 2018: MVP in first season with worst defense in the league, robbed of Superbowl by refs, Dee Ford, and Coin Toss 2019: Injured, came back and won 8 straight to win the Superbowl with so many clutch performances while having average defense 2020: Made 3rd straight Pro-Bowl (Brady missed it in his 2nd and 3rd season), definitely deserving of MVP contention, Superbowl appearance despite having Turf Toe, Concussion, and third string O-line and mediocre defense Patrick Mahomes first 3 years in the NFL >>> Brady's first 10.

[@Goodpatron]

Ya but him losing to a 43 year old Brady means that he'll never be the GOAT.

[@Goodpatron]

@@damian7509 Facts!

[@caramelizedboi8832]

Every sports "Experts" that puts this loss on Mahomes should be fired.

[@queenfufu4305]

Y’all need to stop. Mahomes still got a lot of years in him.

[@yoda9256]

He has to win 8 superbowls to be the goat lol goodluck with that.

[@lovyng]

@@yoda9256 no he don't if he get 6 he'll be the goat

[@fuccckckkkkckkck]

Herberts coming 😈, everyone thinks they are gonna dominate the AFCW like the Patriots did the AFCE but I got bad news for y’all.

[@johndiamond4088]

Nobody has to "stop" nutin' and nobody said Mahomes is finished of course he's gonna win another Super Bowl but he ain't EVER gonna be the GOAT because THAT title goes to Thomas Edward Patrick Brady

[@yoda9256]

@@lovyng ? Brady has 7... if Mahomes has 6 how is he the goat?

[@Alex20272]

Mahomes loses to Tom Brady in the super bowl with no offensive line and makes throws we’ve never seen before first take: mahomes will never ever be the goat

[@brettt141]

Correct. He wont be. Also lost an AFC championship to Brady in arrowhead. 0-2 vs their competition for goat. He is done

[@acethehooligan5972]

Because he won’t he loss to the goat think a little bit

[@kcp1760]

0 2

[@Dontappo]

He threw all those So called awesome INCOMPLETIONS and got 0TDS

[@justinabbasi565]

@@brettt141 also who has the best defense in the league

[@shawnmoney8055]

The Goat discussion was over after He beat Atlanta, he turned Ultra instinct after being down 28-3 Ive never seen anything like that in any sport ever.

[@LukasP143]

‼️

[@swaran8251]

Hardly anyone gave bucs chance with this Kc's o line, now excuse is o line 😂.

[@guilles1933]

I'm genuinely amazed that we live in a world where people act like Mahomes hasn't been only 4 years in the league...

[@mor3beef]

He’s kinda heading down a Russell Wilson route. Enter in on a solid team after a mediocre quarterback dips. Win a ring in first 3 years, lose to Brady in the SB. Then the squad falls apart from lack of cap aka Mahomes Tyreke and kelce were paid far too much for nfl players. Lastly we sit for the next 7-8 years wondering “what if” from their prior SB loss to Brady and continue to chase MVPs and rings🤵🏿

[@cjdonahoo101]

@@mor3beef you’re insane if you really think Mahomes won’t be right back in the SB next year. The man is ridiculously talented. Let’s not act like this man hasn’t made some of the most mind blowing plays of this generation.

[@CJ-ui4tg]

@@cjdonahoo101 untalented receivers not a factor? cap limit cant keep highly paid receivers and the most expensive qb together.

[@wishingb5859]

@Archie Bald Yeah, that is what I am thinking. Plus, his skillsets are young person skillsets. Speed and agility decline over time - not by much, but by 1% and possibly more after an injury or a surgery. Turf toe surgery can take 4 to 6 months to get fully back. I suspect he will be fully back by the time the season starts but he might be 2 or 3% less agile and less fast and by the time he is 30, he had better be developing the skillsets that Tom has been working on since Michigan and the thing is, once people get wealthy, they might not want to develop the boring skillsets and once a superstar stops looking like a superstar, many of them retire. Meaning, 5 years ago, when he can't throw sideways and is wealthy and less "special" and when his scrambling around starts ending up with a 25-year old in the future causing the impressive skillset now to be what costs his team 30 yards, most people retire at that point once the Press starts skewering them. In many ways, Tom was never seen as being good to begin with and rarely had anyone overestimating him. It was almost always negative comments about him. Tom Brady never had those fancy-dancy skillsets that are easy to lose. He had work ethic, discipline, focus, efficiency, precision, and other skillsets that an older person can improve over time. I honestly think that the most spectacular players - which Mahomes is one - have a much shorter shelf-life. Once you are rich, you don't focus as well and once you aren't being promoted as the best ever, you have to dig within to find a different reason to keep playing.

[@zz6-z]

@@cjdonahoo101. Aged like fine milk!

[@cbetv3]

Max defending mahomes sounds like Dan orlovsky defending wentz

[@coachlong23]

Stephen A has been known for dumb takes but this is one of his best. 1 game at age 25 and the debate is over? What? lol

[@captain__castle3177]

Yeah I think that’s stupid too buuuuut I think you’re stupid if you think there was a debate to begin with there was never a goat debate for Patrick mahomes at allll

[@Blak3Woolfolk]

I agree , Pat is 25 and last time I checked , Brady has lost 3 times in the Super Bowl. Should Pat already have been in the GOAT exchange ? No but can he still be ? Yes. People's recency bias is annoying.

[@woopityscoop2863]

One loss in a year of a 10 year contract got us already concluding stuff about his career 😂

[@kodakwhite1696]

A 10 year contract that’s taking up more than half the cap space😆 Tom took pay cuts his whole career and look at where it led his teams, 6 rings with the pats🤔🤣

[@woopityscoop2863]

@@kodakwhite1696 Again, Brady has lost Super Bowls before. Can't win them all.

[@KingAlexander98]

He has a huge future but let’s be honest people won’t be able to compare him to Brady until he wins 8 Super Bowls and that’s one tall order thing is it’s plausible depending on how he deals with this devastating loss. Either he looses confidence in himself or comes back a more humbled and hungry athlete. He is the leader of that organization and they need to trust in him giving him the best team they could possibly get to support his talents just like the buccaneers did for Brady.

[@aaronalvarado9944]

@@KingAlexander98 i think he probably had a understanding with that o line it was going to be harder, talent wise he’s still the best he just couldnt catch a break which resulted in him running for his life or forcing passes to not get hit anymore

[@tomjoad929]

He's just saying it's a mark against him if he's going to be the goat, like LeBron losing to the Mavs

[@masterwayneii1548]

“were going to get to that later on in the show” lets you know that this is going to be the conversation for the rest of the week.....

[@freddygaulman5493]

All of Max's arguments start and end with "IF this happens"

[@theurbanboy7622]

Now mahomes knows how Lamar Jackson feels

[@fabian.k17]

Nah..he knows how Josh Allen feels..

[@moneyblue8466]

@@fabian.k17 😂 you right

[@xoticproductionsreviews4925]

Also deshaun Watson

[@malcolmexxx2109]

when he’s good, he’s a potential GOAT but when he doesn’t live up to the hype now it’s the O line lol.

[@pedrosanchez8524]

I think this was the only time the o line was the excuse

[@comebackkid5976]

Mahomes did miss an early throw to mecole hardman which prob woulda been a TD

[@hauncho23]

Why are we acting like mahomes is 40 and about to retire? He can honestly be in the next 10 suberbowls

[@taylorturner9834]

This what I said because I don’t see no one really beating them in the AFC. Ravens are runner ups but Lamar can’t even throw.

[@deadlyoneable]

He would have to keep this pace up for 20 years and he’s already behind pace compared to Brady when he was at that pointI. There is no catching Brady on accomplishments. Mahomes may become the 2nd greatest though.

[@Cheddah106]

NFL GOAT is etched in stone, hats off to you Brady

[@mattvonsprecken3310]

"When his receivers didn't catch the ball when mahomes put it right in their hands, Mahomes did not look good!" - Stephen A ????

[@firewalkwithme2539]

Mahomes is all talent. Fantastic player. He will grow from this. Every body takes a beating sometime. Brady is the goat.

[@ashtonlabosette2688]

Didn’t Stephen A disagree when Tony Romo said Mahomes can’t ever be the goat if he loses this game?????

[@millennialfootball9499]

Yes if he would’ve lost by a fg or a td. Not this though. Not scoring a SINGLE touchdown?? If Brady would’ve done that and lost he would’ve been slaughtered in the media. Mahomes wants to be the goat he will have to be criticized like how they do Brady. Mahomes choked even before the game was out of hand, missed multiple receivers

[@ashtonlabosette2688]

@@millennialfootball9499 Mahomes was playing behind a handicapped offensive line against a team that thrives at getting to the quarterback. If Brady was behind that o-line he would look worse than Mahomes did last night. I’m not excusing Mahomes entirely for his play because he did spend a lot of time waiting for the deep ball even though he should’ve known he wouldn’t have enough time in the pocket for that.

[@millennialfootball9499]

@@ashtonlabosette2688 he had 2 weeks to prepare for that though... they knew for like 3 weeks they wouldn’t have both tackles in this game and that obviously the bucs were going to shut down tyreek. Andy Reid and Mahomes along with then offensive coordinator gotta hold this one we all knew they wouldn’t have time and somehow 2 weeks later no answer?

[@ashtonlabosette2688]

@@millennialfootball9499 But isn’t the game plan and adjustments the coaches responsibility? I don’t see how Mahomes should get blame for that.

[@tacotacotington3638]

@@ashtonlabosette2688 Mahomes is a mobile QB. You dont spend your salary cap on an O-line for a mobile QB, you get offensive weapons. Brady needs an O line and he can make bad receivers look amazing, Mahomes needs amazing receivers or else he looks bad. People forgetting the Bucs O line was terrible a lot of times throughout the year but Brady turned them into an elite line, especially the center Jensen.

[@Kenzoah]

Lol yeah until nest season dummies 😭 this is so prisoner of the moment lmao

[@brettt141]

0-2 vs Brady in the post. Its over

[@piccolo5346]

It’s entertainment you dummy. They disagree on every topic because it’s a show!

[@scottjames7243]

Brady tha 🐐!

[@kcp1760]

How? Mahomes lost to brady at age 43 with 0 tds in the SUPERBOWL...

[@freddygaulman5493]

7 rings at 43 is being a prisoner of the moment lol....

[@jayman2jay]

Mahomes vs Brady felt just like Thorfinn vs Askeladd

[@jay_1212]

I dunno if people are gonna catch that reference but Vinland Saga is heat

[@War_Maker]

Is Mahomes entering the Slave arc of his career where he’ll go through years of suffering and then awaken in his 30s?

[@carlito_148]

Exactly

[@theyoungyeezus4930]

Everyone who got this reference is Cultured

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

Mahomes soon better learn how to drop back and throw because those legs begin to turn to stone at age 30.. The entire technique of passing changes as you get older.