The PERFECT ENDING in ALL of Gundam??

#Gundam #CharsCounterattack #MobileSuitGundam
I’ve seen a ton of Gundam series while being gone from KZbin for a solid month… but over time I started to wonder what my favorite Gundam Ending is, and what made it so fantastic in the first place!
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[@CheemsBased]

Thanks for watching for these past years, I have a ton planned for 2023, and I hope you all stick around for it! Happy Holidays!

[@kitsuneko-]

Did everyone just conveniently forget that 00 is basically the only gundam series that definitively has an ending where society prospers and where the majority of the people actually embrace being innovators, with them even going on to start colonizing other star systems? (heck, they even learn to peacefully coexist with the ELS and integrate them into society)

[@nanaholic01]

That's because it's not - Turn A Gundam's ending had Earth and the Moonrace came into peace after discovering the Dark History etc which meant Earth which had the equivalent of Industrial Revolution age tech/culture will now get proper tech from the Moonrace and progress.

[@TheAshlight41]

​@user-ts2ir4hc5r Moonrace is humanity from the past before great calamity was happening. They life a longer life than normal human and have a technology far surpasses human 👀

[@TheAshlight41]

​@@nanaholic01 Yep, with a cost of resealed turn a and turn x in final fight.

[@Celtic1020]

The Gundam Wing anime and OVA Endless Waltz both imply that after the series is a time of peace and prosperity for the earth and colonies. The Frozen Teardrop isn't part of the anime timeline and is not canon to it.

[@the_legendary_neostriker7872]

Thats where your wrong. Unicorn and turn A gundam makes that peace temporary

[@Darth_Anomalous]

This movie isn't just for show!!!

[@scottk9273]

War in the Pocket had such a heartfelt ending due to Alfred' loss of innocence and the romantic yet tragic love of Bernard and Christina.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I think Char’s arc works really well. I think his regression is not really a regression, since he wasn’t a villain in the first series anyways. Antagonist, sure, but he wasn’t a villain until CCA. It’s the tragedy of war, and Char is the central character in that tragedy. If war never happened, Char would have become a great leader to lead earth into a new age, but war destroyed the relationship between Earthnoids and Spacenoids as well as Char’s perception of humanity. While Amuro finds Hope during war because of the good of humanity, Char finds despair because of the evil of humanity.

[@zacharyradford5552]

I don’t really agree with that Char to me hasn’t changed much from when he was a child. His way of thinking was kinda similar to the Zabis, it didn’t go well for either. The best leader looking for unity was probably his father Deikun.

[@nanaholic01]

@@zacharyradford5552 That's Origin's take on Char, which IMO shouldn't be taken as strict canon because it's not penned by Tomino. Origin turned Char into Light of Death Note - everything is about scheming to get his own sense of justice/revenge and Char was twisted since the murder of his father, but Char's not that kind of character, and that's why Lalah chooses to stay with Char over Amuro despite Lalah having a stronger Newtype bond with Amuro, because Lalah saw the good in Char and knows he's capable of so much more. If you only take Tomino's work of Char, OP's opinion makes a tonne of sense.

[@UltraKardas]

​@@nanaholic01 I disagree. Its shown time and time again that female character's are more drawn to Char than Amuro. He's got an entire list. Natalie, Haman, Nanai, Quess, and Lalah are all drawn to Char over other characters.Several of these characters were powerful newtypes. Char doesn't have any good in him, but what he wants isn't always necassarily bad. That's why he wasn't an antagonist in Zeta, because some of his motivations weren't strictly evil. When you look at Char, he is evil, selfish, and manipulative. These traits in him are constant. He kills the original Char Aznable and steals his identity. He kills anyone that is a "percieved" threat. His sunglasses and mask are to hide his different colored eyes, even after the fact there's no real chance people are going to catch on to his deception. Char's passion and charisma is what attracts people to him. Its why Quess threw away her family, friends and even her father just for his attention. It wasn't because Char was a good person. The only "good" thing about Char was his love for his family. In examples of both Quess and Lalah its clear that the two of them made the wrong decision. Quess got her father killed, herself killed, and others all because she was simping for Char.

[@nanaholic01]

@@UltraKardas You can't disagree here because it's Tomino canon - it's literally the scene in MSG where Lalah and Amuro were having their Newtype bonding moment where Lalah rejects Amuro and chooses Char. Lalah also literally comes back as a Newtype ghost in CCA to Amuro, when Amuro tells Lalah she should reject Char, Lalah replies by telling him Char is "pure/innocent". You've drawn up a head canon to think Char is evil, and I think a lot of that is simply due to Origin and other non-Tomino side stories filling in the gaps (unnecessarily) to make Char a scheming evil person, but Tomino does not intend Char to be inherently evil - far from it, and numerous key scenes in multiple Tomino work supports this. Char is not supposed to be an inherently evil person.

[@UltraKardas]

@@nanaholic01 I can disagree. I just did. And I make a much stronger argument than you did. Tomino also wrote Char as a revenge driven individual, who takes his wrath even on people who are innocent themselves, but merely related to the real traitors. Lalah is a flawed character, and while she might think Char is "Pure/innocent" it is shown and proven that its a complete lie. Did you miss in Char's counter attack where he gets Quess to kill her father and turns her into a weapon? Did you miss that Char openly lies to the federation in order for his plan to contanimate Earth? Did you miss that Char is killing maybe billions of people by dropping anything he can onto the planet? Char was never innocent. His innocence was stolen from him. The only thing Char is now, is pure ego. Because his ego is all he has. It was gives him his greatest success and his greatest failures. I imagine that Chan and Lalah had quite an argument when they became Newtype ghosts, as they both have quite different opinions on the matter.

[@primusvsunicron1]

CCA is basically the mid point that builds off of 0079, 0083, Zeta and ZZ and sets up Unicorn, Narrative, Hathaway’s Flash, F91, Crossbone, Victory and G-Saviour

[@SHINTAB]

The flaws you mentioned with CCA (regarding Char's sudden change of heart after Zeta) were thankfully pretty much fixed by the manga Char's Deleted Affair. Char's sudden vengefulness towards the Federation makes a lot more sense when you know that he was heavily traumatized before the events of Zeta during his time at Axis, and that the ending of Zeta, with all his remaining friends and family (especially in Kamille) either being killed off or otherwise, Is just the straw that broke the camel's back for him. He rationalizes everything terrible that happened in his life, (the deaths of his parents, the two Zeon wars of independence, the deaths of his lovers, his estrangement with his only remaining blood relative, his resentment of Amuro, a man who he would have otherwise considered his friend if events during the war had played out differently, who he outright regretted not being able to forgive, and the mental crippling of Kamille, the closest thing to a son for Char) As well as all the current societal issues, (Pollution, spacenoids being treated as second class citizens, the government's abuse of power, the ravaged economy and years of famine between wars caused by the colony drops, etc.) was all a result of the Earth Federation government's ineptitude and fear of losing power, whether caused directly or indirectly. And with the little resources Zeon had after two wars, blinded by cold desperation, grief, and anger, he believed that dropping Axis was the last solution he had available to him, the ONLY solution. Tl;dr, Char in CCA is what you get when outside forces push a dangerous man who wants to be good WAY beyond their breaking point.

[@ishomarymuzaki2]

I still flabbergasted how Hamman kills Char lovers and also her best friend because jealously. And that incident kinda trigger why he need to helm Neo Zeon beside Hamman using Mineva as her pawn

[@boxtank5288]

I always felt that, by the end, Char was just DONE with life. He wanted to strike one more time against the cruel tide of fate, a universe that just seems content on making him suffer. That he was well past the point of caring how his story ends as long as it meant he SUCCEEDS. Char's Counterattack is more like Char's Suicide Note. Penned in the blood of others and almost the entireity of the Earth. Like I do not get the feeling that he was gonna stick around if he DID win and survive the battle, that he was gonna just 'disappear' (read: Likely move the Sazabi away from the battlefield, remove all tracking, and kill himself)

[@johnchampion2040]

Beautiful just beautiful

[@CoracaoAcidental98]

I mean, what outside forces? Everything is his fault! All the problems that happen in his life is because he is constantly running away from the most important stuff that he is involved. Lalah, Haman and Kamille all could've had ended differently if he had made better choices, but no, supporting unstable teenagers into war makes more sense I guess. Amuro even points that out about Kamille and Char is basically "Nah". Zeon could've become better at the time of Char's Deleted Affair, but he didn't want the responsibility of leadership. By the time of Zeta he is under a new name role-playing as a good guy, but never reached out to the sister he abandoned when she needed him most, left Axis to do whatever they want knowing full well it could end in another disastrous war, and completely uncaring for the feelings of others he is involved with. He wants to become a better person, but he is completely oblivious of his own flaws or how to make anything better for himself and others.

[@deuce5546]

All of this you can infer without reading that manga, it's just that the contrast between Zeta and CCA was so big people thought they needed an explanation, in reality you only need to watch the 3 Gundam shows to understand why he felt like that, the same reason why a lot of people think he was right in the movie. The Universal Century continuity is people making the same mistakes and engaging into unnecessary conflict amongst political interests and leaders with their heads too far their own asses to even think that what they're doing is wrong. Char's tragedy is that he understood this, but he suffered so much, he regressed it and wanted revenge towards humanity, he wanted to take something from them just how humanity took so much from him.

[@rabbani3094]

The scene where everyone collectively pushes back Axis always gets me.

[@acereporter73]

That Jegan pilot grabbing the hand of that Geara Doga . . . 😭😭😭

[@aetherherrscherofnasigoren1417]

Both sides work together to do the right thing : preventing massive destruction by Axis....truly, to me, this is the best moment of all Gundam series😭

[@gomiko8979]

Really loved that Amuro still proved to me that he was the better pilot. Also during the final fight, when char was brutally clapped non stop by amuro, you can feel his desperation. He was frightened at the fact that amuro was already at the point of killing him. I'm talking about the scene where amuro was ripping the sazabi's neck and kicking and breaking vital points, char was like "amuro!"

[@rikudouray]

Besides the uc timeline, I really love the ending of 00 gundam. Because it was based on AD timeline. Trailblazer captures the beauty of hope no matter how desperate your predicament maybe.

[@tedhodge4830]

Honestly, most of the endings in the main series by Tomino are good, even in otherwise questionable series like Victory or ZZ. Tomino has quite a mastery of the climax and I think that's part of what's given Gundam such fantastic staying power. 0080 is also one of my favorites in this regard from the OVAs. CCA, Zeta, and the original MSG all have great endings.

[@marcosdheleno]

i know im in the minority but i hate the ending of CCA. to me, that ending undoes everything that the UC stands for. with an asspull.

[@tedhodge4830]

@@marcosdheleno That's definitely how I felt about Unicorn. What I really meant when I said that Tomino is a master of the climax is that - regardless of how questionable the series overall, say ZZ or Victory, by the climax, I was always engaged and focused, sometimes at the edge of my seat, and the ending always left some emotional resonance and something for me to think about. While I have serious misgivings about the ending to CCA, how do you feel that it undoes everything the UC stands for? Should Axis have continued bouldering towards the earthsphere and cratered humanity alongside the idealistic but hopeless Amuro and Char? Maybe it's worth a thought. Tomino was trying to say something here, but I'm not sure it was worth the space magic asspull. Especially with how Unicorn turned out with full space magic. The entire series up to that point was about the cyclical history of conflict, the exploitation of the earth and humanity's future in space, and the evolution of humanity, all of which was explored by the ending. So I'm not sure I see how it undoes UC full stop.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@tedhodge4830 i feel like "suddenly magic" just didnt work, or was deserved. through out the UC we get more and more magic, but even in z, and zz, they have some sort of limit, in CCA and Unicorn(which i also agree was a massive asspull as well), it goes beyond being an exoteric almost mythical event, going all the way into godly powers. to me, they wrote themselves into a corner, that shouldnt be there, it turns into a bad version of 0083. to me, they should let the asteroid crash on earth, dunno if amuro and char should've died, maybe they should've kill each other, almost like a "they hated each other so much, that they forgot why they were there" similar to how it was in the original series. that would work perfectly to set the stage for victory(far better than crossbone and f91).

[@nanaholic01]

@@marcosdheleno I think you've completely misread the miracle of CCA. The Psycho frame in CCA was no more than the miracle which Zeta and ZZ pulled - namely it concentrated the pure and innocent thoughts of people and channeled it into the protagonist's MS to pull off a physics defying feat. In Zeta the spirit of the dead people close to Kamille froze Sirocco's The O in its place making the Kamille kamikaze attack possible, in ZZ the same thing happened which let the out of power ZZ able to fire off a far more powerful Mega Particle Canon shot than possible. In CCA, it wasn't the power of Amuro which pushed back axis - the Nu Gundam merely broadcast Amuro's wishes to the entirety of humankind, and in turn humanity responded to Amuro's warmth which then projected their collective wish to save Earth back to the Nu Gundam's Psychoframe, and then to push axis away. A tldr is Amuro basically pulled a Spirit Bomb from DBZ - it was never JUST Goku's power to make the Spirit Bomb, but ALL of humanities' power, Goku merely throws it, and in CCA Amuro was merely the vessel to turn humanities' wish into reality - exactly the same as what happened with Kamille and Juda in the last battle, in that specific instance they, as the Newtype protagonist, became a vessel to make the wishes of others a reality. The point of CCA is that of course that no matter how far removed humanity is from Earth, deep down they cannot deny they are part of the Earth's ecosystem so they can never hate it enough to destroy it, which is the beauty of the message and realisation of Amuro's core belief. Only Unicorn and Narrative did the ass pull by making the pilot single-handedly god like, CCA actually didn't do any of it, and that's what separates Tomino UC Gundam with the wannabe like UC and Narrative.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@nanaholic01 i didnt misread it, i just do not like it, it goes over the top for me. i do not care if it was hinted, or if its an evolution of what happened before, to me, its a jumping the shark moment, that undermines the series.

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

There's a recurring theme in every Gundam ending that leaves characters with their personal conflicts unresolved. Even though Nu Gundam destroyed the Sazabi, Char and Amuro were never going to understand each other.

[@dl4569]

Especially after Lalah's death. That will always complicate things for them to reconcile even though Lalah herself made that decision to protect Char and sacrifice herself...

[@mattmaddogwheaton4724]

Char's Counterattack is indeed the perfect conclusion to the Gundam saga if you ask me.

[@zero-pl3tt]

My biggest issue with Unicorn is that it's just a retread of the CCA ending, but worse because it's not with characters we've watched for 100+ episodes. CCA to me works so well as the ending to the Federation vs Zeon conflict, so much so that even Tomino decided to start late UC after it.

[@Masterho310]

I was hella confused when I first saw Char's Counterattack. I had no idea Char and Amuro died until I read the plot synopsis a few weeks later.

[@jmmproductions6741]

A little vague, but I thought it was pretty explainitory. Between both of them burning up, we also see Bright's saddened expression which sorta solidifies Amuro's death. His reaction to losing the great hero who was almost like a son to him during the One Year War.

[@marcjustinpascasio9955]

@@jmmproductions6741 So imagine what he felt when Mafty aka Hathaway was killed and the media saying that his firing squad was the one to carry out the execution.

[@wreday720]

Not calling you out dude, but what did you think happened? In fairness it is pretty vague and we have never gotten FULL confirmation

[@howardlam6181]

Char's lover who is a newtype broke down in tears instantly....

[@Masterho310]

@@howardlam6181 See that's one of those things that makes sense in hindsight reading wiki's that say Amuro and Char died upon re-entry. But watching it, it's like one of those "unless you see the protagonist die on screen they may still be alive" kind of things. Maybe she was crying because Neo Zeon's whole plan failed. But yes I understand now that they are dead. It just wasn't very clear at the time of my first watch.

[@Strangedispenser]

honestly, after finishing Char Counter attack i heard beyond time and I knew the brother is gone 😭😭😭

[@TheFirehands150]

After rewatching Gundam 0079 and Zeta, Char's character in CCA isnt really farfetched. He always had insecurities he never truly overcame. His line to his sanity was a future where young newtypes would lead. After Kamille loses his mind, and the Earth Federation does not change, its no shock that Char chose this route. So Char regresses to become even more insecure and immature, as he basically takes his worst traits and amplifies it even when he had the choice to become the better man. And just like in real life, when you are lead by hate and a victim mindset, you will go back to blaming others and becoming the worst version of you. Char at the end, did not end up like his father. But rather, he ended up a Zabi. (And even a Scirocco as he manipulates young girls to do his bidding) And he goes back to blaming Amuro about Lalah's death and blaming him for not being a father figure to Quess. Which is absolutely petty compared to what hes doing to kill maybe billions on earth. Amuro is the opposite, as he grows to become mature and possibly the best version of him that he can become. Selfless and ready to give his life to save others. So when Char has his final talk with Amuro, it shows how low Char has fallen, that it even shocks Amuro who is way more mature than Char. Although I wished Char would have stepped up and truly became the Deikun he could have been, this outcome isnt surprising.

[@humblegamer7876]

This guy gets it. This is the actual face of char, the tragedy of what he could have been

[@SpScarletSpider]

There's actually a good scene in Zeta Gundam if I recall at the end of one of the episodes in the latter half of the series where Kamille walks in on Char and sees Char more or less breaking down under the weight of his responsibilities. It's why when CCA happens, I fully understood why he was taking the approach that he took.

[@KizunaCollection]

The conclusion to Amuro and Char story was the best in CCA. Though I think in the novel and manga of “char's counterattack beltorchika children” goes further into detail about Amuro and Char also with the psycho frame.

[@rod9527]

the ending of CCA is so good and iconic that even FFVII´s is like a tribute to it (Sonic Adventure 2 also referenced it)

[@itachi65ful]

I love Gundam Seed last 2 episodes. It's not a perfect ending but the characters and interactions I really enjoy.

[@mrshadowcristal]

I really enjoyed Gundam SEED's ending too. Rau Le Cruset in the last 5 episodes or so really flipped my opinion of him from a villain I had mixed feelings on to one I thought was incredibly compelling to follow.

[@bernhardvonbarret1729]

Gundam Seed is terrible... it was supposed to be a rebirth of the gundam series, since it follows the history skeleton of the first gundam with few parts of Z and such, but it was poorly done, and the ending was terrible. especially the mental instability of Rey and other events. a cheap soap opera.

[@TheRyderShotgunn]

i know i wont get it and it probably doesnt make any sense, but i kinda want a story that features char and/or amuro in a story where they're, like, the old war vets that no one in town really give much mind, until whatever passes for young upstarts looking for a scrap turn up and they climb into their now ancient and outdated OYW suits and still kick ass i can almost read it in my head, "you're a has-been piloting a museum piece, what can you possibly do?" and then they get their asses beat by char in his original red zaku or something

[@christopherchan470]

The manga Crossbone Gundam Ghost, which I am not sure whether there is Eng translation for, does almost everthing you want!

[@TheRyderShotgunn]

@@christopherchan470 checked it out a bit, and unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. It stars an amuro-like living in the former zeon capital UC 150-something with another spacenoid independence war raging, though side 3 isn't involved this time. The character climbs into a museum piece zaku at one point and uses it to fight some other mobile suits, but the real focus there was the crossbone gundam from the title. That said tho, the zaku does win because the enemy leader's MS computer was confused by the unusual size of the old zakus, so I guess that kinda fits, vaguely.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Well Dynasty Warriors Gundam 1 is the closest where that happens and its not particularly good, In crossovers the 2 are treated typically as such though from what I can tell, Char in DWG2 basically beats technically superior foes like the Turn X of all things.

[@gundam5281]

A perfect video to end this crazy year! Merry Christmas Cheems!

[@CheemsBased]

Thanks, you too!

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

G Gundam. Good wins against evil, the world is saved. The hero gets the girl. A series that doesn't have a depressing or "strings attached" ending.

[@CapnDGAF]

You sir, discovered the correct answer. Everybody else his just a edgelord and coping hard AF.

[@forgameonly9554]

Yeah. The final technique, the pair dancing while casting love-love sekiha tenkyo... Gundam with magic but still really cool.

[@joekewl7539]

Bro literally defeating a biomechanical nightmare Demon called the fucking Devil Gundam by powering up his signature finishing move WITH THE COMBINED POWER AND PASSION OF HIS LOVER, SHOUTING IN SYNC AS THEY DELIVER THE FINAL BLOW *AND SYMBOLICALLY DESTROYING EVIL WITH THE POWER OF LOVE, YOU CANT DO BETTER THAN THAT, PEAK FUCKING FICTION!!*

[@CapnDGAF]

@@joekewl7539 you forgot about the power of motherfucking brotherhood forge in the flames of battle that paved the way to the final battle. Shuffle alliance is shounen to the core. Orga/Naze or Orga/Mika could never....

[@joekewl7539]

@@CapnDGAF Honestly there's just so much goodness about G Gundam. It's aged shockingly well, and the over the top stereotype designs for each nation adds a certain charm. MexiGundam for Gundam Evolution or we riot.

[@silhouette4594]

I just rewatched this movie on christmas eve. It is as good as they say if not better

[@sushiatsushi1538]

I just found out this channel and damn very underrated. keep up the good job :DD

[@cosmicturban2797]

ZZ had a pretty happy ending compared to most Gundam. I don't blame anyone for picking it as their fav ending.

[@GIGALADZ91101]

Thanks for explaining some of Gundam’s arcs. As much as I love Gundam the arcs can be pretty vague sometimes.

[@bernhardvonbarret1729]

Char Hubris was his downfall, had he not leaked the Psycho Frame Plans for Amuro to Anaheim Electronics, His Sazabi would have made short work of any Gundam they would have built for Amuro. Aside from that yeah it was a Fitting Conclusion(Even though in Unicorn we saw Otherwise)to the Long and Turbulent Relationship of Amuro and Char. But If I had to say the Ending of MS Igloo Apocalypse was more Dramatic and Gundam Like, With Von Kuspen dying the way he did and Oliver fighting the way he did and the Song was quite on track.

[@quademasters249]

"Turn A Gundam"'s ending was my favorite. It was unequivocally a good, hopeful ending. While I enjoyed many of the other endings. They never left me all that hopeful for the future. Like the world was on the right track. CCA's ending was good but, didn't really conclude anything. The spacenoids were still an abused underclass lorded over by the corrupt federation. One failing of the series in general is that the earth was simply too powerful. Once you have a group living outside the gravity well, you're at their mercy. They could even throw smallish things at the earth at any time to destroy specific targets as Heinlein explored in "The moon is a harsh mistress".

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

The argument would of been that by UC in the beginning was only having humanity beginning to colonize space in the beginning explained by Unicorn. So overall by one year war while there was a lot of colonies where prosperity going they had major issues; they where still being expanded, still being development, generally poorer, and most resources generated where taken to Earth. Coupled by the fact that Fed was hash to the colony people that war between them was inevitable. Which despite the series has some failling on some points it does really make Unicorn help go full circle and adds more context of UC.

[@quademasters249]

@@gerogyzurkov2259 Maybe I'll have to try Unicorn again then. I really liked episode one and 2 was pretty good too in the OVA. Then the MC became a typical whiny beta hero Japan likes to foist on us.

[@ENDtredecim]

This ending and Iron-Blooded Orphans have been the most satisfying for me across all of Gundam they both just hit really hard and tied up most/all of their plot hooks across their individual series

[@failuregaming6611]

^This guy is the type man who likes pegging and want woman to step on his balls.

[@wesbrannick8269]

IBO has probably the worst and lazily written ending of any of the Gundam series. It made investing and waiting every week for new episodes feel like it was for nothing.

[@JosephJacobs911]

@@wesbrannick8269 as an enjoyer of mafia stories like The Godfather trilogy and Goodfellas, I kind of saw IBO's ending coming and I was very satisfied.

[@wpeniche]

Would love to see your take on Beltorchikas Children. And subbed!

[@crankypipo]

Chars counterattack is the perfect ending to me all because both antagonist and protagonist have glaring ridiculous things about them that make it bittersweet whomever got to live happily ever after. White base crew dead ones and the female spy included, Hamon and Ral, they all deserve a happy ending Hands down one of the best japanese storytelling about humanity

[@howardlam6181]

His mother was soft imprisoned so he never felt a mother's love. So yea, it wasn't just a mother figure that would guide him, but an actual mother that loves him as such

[@jonathanmikarui8931]

Iron Blooded Orphans

[@arturandreev1412]

Many people dislike the ending, Yes it was brutal. Killing main characters, leading the plot to ultimate defeat. For me, as much as I hate it, the end where they die summarise their pain and their loss. They didn't have perfect start , yet they created their rough road out of nothing and leaving behimd so much legacy. Mars independence, members finally working jobs that don't include danger( we'll except Ryde, but he is bad ass after all)

[@justsen1547]

Turn A is by far my favorite

[@curiouszaku9537]

Pretty much rounded up what i couldn't get myself to figure out on why i love CCA's ending :) Definitely need to see CCA again after this. I loved how Char wasn't a one sided cold antagonist and felt pretty grounded by being up in the clouds himself with his goal. I love the Amuro perspective brought by the video now too. Maybe i really do gravitate towards Gundam's more grounded or heartwarming endings. I'd list my favourite endings off the top of my head to be 0079's, IBO's, where i hope that the overhype do die down in years to come, SEED Destiny's specifically only Shinn's arc, and maybe 8th MS Team with basically choosing to move on instead. In retrospect, most Gundam endings does deal with having clarity and moving on

[@JKurayami]

G Gundam has the Best Ending. Guys with their Chicks, Rainbows and fireworks, Good and Love Triumph over evil. Char's Counter Attack had a cop out ending to me.

[@wilnewman5372]

I first read about Gundam Char's counter Attack in 1989 in an Animag back issue I had gotten in High School . In early 1992 I bought a bootleg copy of the movie at a comic book shop !!! I watched that movie every chance I got. It was really awesome !!! It's still one of my all time favorite Gundam movies. I wish they would do an ova or a movie version of the original story from the Novel and Manga Story : Beltochika's Children !!! I felt that Belotichika's Children fit the continuation of the Universal Century storyline better !! I wish they would do an OVA of the Char's Deleted Affair Manga , that would be really awesome to see too !!!

[@brandongreen4439]

in regards to IBO's ending, there is a singular moment I could point to that I think people latch onto. I mean aside from the whole "watching our two main protagonist pilots on their last breath" Iok. Getting to see that bastard crushed after so long was catharsis for many people, and the fact that there's a video soley dedicated to his death that is labeled an instant dopamine hit or something similar, says a lot about how that moment stuck out. Aside from that I haven't watched IBO to make a judgement. Sorry for kinda just... seeing the mickey eyes thing in the first 30 seconds of the vid and deciding to make a comment about it. I haven't seen the series, but I know how good it feels to watch someone get crushed that you hated.

[@marcosdheleno]

i dont think this is even a question, war in the pocket. its realistic, tragic, and achieves everything the series set up to do in the perfect way. CCA's ending doesnt work because it literaly makes uses of a deus ex machina to solve the issue with bullshit. its a nice imagery, but it breaks its own logic and just fart the solution with a "and then they magic". its the same problem i have with unicorn ending. which just diminish the entire premisse of the UC. similarly, while i love gundam seed, and its my personal favorite series, i do have to agree that it would've been a stronger finish with a more tragic ending.

[@Godzilla00X]

My fav endings were probably Zeta & G. Zeta since its a perfect "in war, no one wins" ending and feels appropriately tragic. G is the opposite but having all the earth and colonies unite to stop a common foe with Domon having to win by confessing his feelings is a perfect bow tie to the series

[@1987palerider]

The Axis Shock gives me chills every time

[@loganswalk8621]

I honestly like Iron Blooded Orphans it’s somber but hopeful the names the memorial may be forgotten in time but the effects they had on their friends and family will be felt for ages Mars is on the road to independence,Gjallarhorn becomes a democratic organization moving away from its feudalistic roots and certain man gets shot on the toilet. IBO overall was about Tekkadan’s rise and fall how even a group of forgotten orphans can change the world for the better.

[@tokyobassist]

CCA is a weird film in that material that comes before and after it enhances that movie. It kind of sucks on it's own but it's as important as the One Year War.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Char’s Counterattack is the Revenge of the Sith of Gundam.

[@Solbrave00]

6:11 that be yuu kajima from the blue destiny side story piloting that jegan

[@ranrise]

I always cry at this ending. Just seeing a still shot of it would do. Q.Q

[@mr.gnome_3239]

The quality of the clips your using seems to be smoother and better Res than the og. Have they remastered the old stuff at all?

[@CheemsBased]

I used the Japanese Blu Rays, they’re more accurate to the original colors compared to the US Blu Rays

[@Comoesa]

what is your favorite gundam movie now?

[@BasedSif]

Sorry to be that guy but what is that scene from at 4:09 ?

[@geo0711]

Narrative was great. All the information needed to understand the movie and why it makes sense are in the film. Never understood why people either hate it or are confused by it.

[@rabbani3094]

For me I found narrative contrived to tie up loose ends. How many times did they repeat the bird scene? Not really a fan of it and unicorn either since being a newtype or having psycoframe is exaggerated to the nth degree whereas wits still plays a role in CCA or Crossbone. (Ie. Amuro’s feint to take down Gyunei)

[@ericj6636]

It makes little sense unless you watch Unicorn. And seeing Hathaway after Unicorn and NT is a damned tragedy. Full Frontal... was right.

[@fransiscusdjaja7775]

yeah... i also thought Char's counter attack is one of the best ending... at least my favourite from gundam line-up... but recently i just read the manga (Balthorchika's Children)... and that version blown me away... as though its limited space or medium... but i just got more understanding of what its all about. i like both version... but i just wish if bandai/sunrise make the ova version of Balthorchika's Children too... (with more modern anime style .. like hathaway. i meant i like the origin version... but hathaway anime style is far better quality in my opinion).

[@DSan-kl2yc]

This ending has a beautiful set piece and moment. Though i prefer the end of encounters. That was very moving.

[@eiennofantasy]

Two things I feel that's been glossed over is the fact that he is forcing all humanity to migrate to space in hopes of making all humans become Newtypes and Char fulfilling his father's philosophy of Contolism and Sideism. He's not testing humanity but forcing an evolution because it's believed Newtypes are born from people living in space. That's the reason why Amuro is saying how he can wait for humanity to learn and grow, eventually understanding each other and without having to force an evolution. This also aligns with his father's original philosophy of having humanity migrate to space and leave Earth. Zabi took advantage of the philosophy but twisted it by saying the spacenoids are superior and OYW started. Char went in to kill off the Zabi family in part for revenge, but it was also to cleanse the twisted ideology that was different from his father's. In Zeta he joined AEUG to protect the oppression of the Titans while taking a backseat just to fight and not use his family name in concern of starting another war. However that changed with the Dakar speech, where he reiterates his father's philosophy. But then Axis came into the playing field and Haman used Mineva to show how she will continue to lead the Zeon Principality. Needing Axis's resource in fighting Titans, AEUG and Axis teamed up temporarily only to be betrayed as Axis wanted to continue the OYW. After experiencing all the bloodshed, betrayal, and deaths of friends and lovers, he realized the only way to further his father's agenda, transforming all humans to Newtypes and not let anyone leading spacenoids astray, he pushed his plan to force all humans from Earth, leading to the events of CCA.

[@mattphillips2621]

I know it's not a movie but I loved seed eclipse ending

[@thealexgundam5006]

Maybe you should give space battleship Yamamoto a watch/ you won't regret it. Their original,ova, and reboot, if you want I can list then if you want

[@Zgoatz220]

Recommended order?

[@maramba32]

even after amuro's sacrifice, fighting still goes on and innocent people are still killed just for waiting for humans to evolve. EF has just grown arrogant until UC.

[@AlvinREDDELTA]

I WANT THIS MOVIE got a REMAKE ANIMATION just like they did on gundam rx78 and also GUNDAM NU claps 😎all the design on present gundams fight me!

[@kevinbaumhoer7359]

So mit forget Chat returns 110 years later as.a Clone.Named Afarance Char Who Pilots.Gaiaq Gear Alpha in U.C 203

[@Delicatessen-]

While people in here talk about UC ending I'll just talk about Awakening of the trailblazer, the most hopeful and only the ending where both sides got they wanted and people live in permanent peace, the epilouge shows that the humans evolved into innovators and they achieved peace for years and the ending quote man.

[@serenity3157]

Salute to those pilots who join pushing o7

[@ishomarymuzaki2]

Char are broken because the comrades whose he trust and sharing same ideals died or gone insane in the end of Zeta.. I can quite understand why he sees humanity is failed because there is almost no difference between EF and Zeon top brass. Also, sadly Amuro ideals is kinda go almost nowhere... Kinda waiting how Hathaway, who inherit these two ideals poured on trilogy.

[@Neethan3247]

Zeta Gundam had by far the best and definitive ending. It's a war. People die and there are no good endings.

[@viron3664]

I think 0080 is probably the perfect ending for a UC series, through its bitterness we can appreciate the sacrifice Bernie was willing to make, it also can help change how you see conflict in Gundam as a whole. A standard almost filler like episode of the OG series is on the same level of what is going on in 0080's finale, but because we have become so involved with the people taking part it carries a lot more weight, however removed of all that you just see another Zaku getting taken out after a bit of struggle. When one of Al's friends says "I wonder when the next war will be." it is a shot at the standard viewer mentality at looking forward to another episode where more people may be killed, people like Bernie whose stories we'll never know because they are just fodder for our heroes. Best ending overall is Mobile Fighter G Gundam, and anyone who says otherwise is objectively wrong.

[@thomjhim5144]

What the hell that interpretation of Chars line about Nahnah. He clearly means she would have been the mother of his children as in he wanted to be with her. They were both in love with her that's the whole point.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Anyone who pays close attention to the film, knows that Amuro and Char are not dead, at least in the film universe. Those who paid close enough attention, shortly after when Bright ask where Amuro is at you see one last gas trail leaving Axis, long after the rest of the suits were swept aside. It's why Amuro and Char are considered MIA not KIA in Unicorn. The novelization do confirm they're dead but the TV/Film adaptations they're not technically dead, and there is kind of proof that proves they're not exactly dead. This is actually whyIi think the animated version of Full Frontal is Char but his personality was split, with part of him actually died. Meanwhile I think Amuro like after the OYW is likely doing a Shiro and found a quiet corner of the world to retire away from all the BS.

[@Kirayamatoplay]

gundam seed destiny ending or gundam wing

[@curiouszaku9537]

I dig the seed destiny ending ZAFT side only tho, had much more "journey" aspect for Shinn and Rey. That final fireworks display was like a warm hug from Destiny's shenanigans.

[@androyus]

As bad as Destiny was, its ending still has great themes of choosing free-will (that may lead to more conflicts) or genetic ant-colony-style tyranny (that can lead to peace) proposed by Durandal. Kira made a difficult choice that he has to take responsibility for. No more hiding in a beach house for him. Kira is now a ZAFT commander who is keeping the peace of the world.

[@watcher8582]

also nice

[@MrEcoho]

endless waltz and awakening of the trailblazer for me, both were happy endings yes but the protagonists worked for it.

[@CaffeinatedIce]

Yeah the ending is great, just the buildup is terrible- if I show my friends mainline UC, I gotta go on a whole speech ahead of showing this movie, it honestly just because of the damn company greed that stunted CCA, I mean we can clearly see the 'original' script or the closest thing we had to that in Beltorchica's Children Speaking of the ending though and looking at the Main UC as a whole overarching story, you can see ALOT of interesting patterns, and you can really group it into big arc that roughly shapes out to be around every 3 years which can be the basis of a really strong remake of mainline UC and the story of Zeon Personally, I see Origin as an outlier though its events could be thought out as happening in bunches where years pass with nothing happening untill things start happening again Which then leads up to 0079-0081 that centers around the OYW and it's after effects, the federation waits recovering, Zeon is regrouping, Char is exploring life after Zabi Revenge and having nothing to live for, Amuro and Sayla grow their relationship as the white base crew settles downs Then it's 0082-0084 where the various forces, people, and powers start taking action instead of just reacting to and rebuilding from the effects of the OYW, the federation forms the Titans to take active action, Zeon remnants initiate the stardust rebellion and others try to initiate similar action on Axis, Amuro and Sayla are put under strain from a newly invasive, fearful and thus oppressive federation, ending their relationship with similar events happening to the white base crew, separating the once closely connected family, Char finds love and purpose on Axis, only to lose it and abandon Axis for newly convicted idealistic ideals, thus an era of two stories play out which then leads to 0085-0087 which deals with the actions a reaction is all starting to collide, take form, and turn into big events, the federation looses power to the Titans, and then Zeta happens, Zeon under a heartbroken Haman returns to the chaos of the earth sphere in force, Amuro faces and rediscovers himself and what he can do for the for the world, reconnecting much of the white base crew, and Char continuing on his idealistic path is completely broken by the time everything falls apart Which then leads to 0088-0090, the conflicts from the previous time period evolve as forces join together and break apart, the federation and AEUG essentially make peace/join forces to defeat Zeon, Zeon breaks into factionalism and is ultimately dispersed but not defeated, Amuro grows in confidence and the crew returns to much it's former glory (here's where my big change comes into the story, Sayla comes back) and Sayla returns to his life as they gradually fall in love once again, Char then cannot accept the compromises that the AEUG is making to achieve peace, and he runs away clinging to his broken ideals, living a simpler life where he meets new people's fatefully, thus a differently framed ZZ would play out 0091-0093, forces regroup and reintegrate as momentum builds under the surface, erupting into a massive conflict which seemingly came from nowhere, the Federation reins in the power, control and freedom of the AEUG, tuning it into Londo Bell- a version of the Titans that were firmly kept under a tight leash, Zeon regroups onder the banner of Char Aznable, ready to make one last effort for Spacenoid independence, Amuro grows into a family man and with the rest of the AEUG, they turn into the Adults of the world as they settle down and become far less rebellious and active, Char on the other hand is spurred on by fateful meetings, he begins to hatch a plot to force his broken ideals onto others, and thus a slightly different CCA would begin 0094-0096, what is left of the past baggage and people whom cannot move on come together in a final collision, a final end for Zeon, the federation let's go of it's baggage, Zeon as a organization I finally defeated, and the main characters go on to resolve Zeon activity, succeeding largely by 0099, and possibly ending with a epilogue in 0100, ending the story of Zeon, and the personal effects Char and Amuro left behind

[@caesta7168]

Hey, I saw your Gundam: The Origins scans on MangaDex but unfortunately you only uploaded the first three chapters. Why did you stop, if I may ask? You were the only one who uploaded them in good quality.

[@CheemsBased]

Takes a lot of time to translate and upload them, I’ll try to upload more soon.

[@caesta7168]

@@CheemsBased Appreciate your work!

[@CheemsBased]

heyo, just wanted to let you know that I got around 27 chapters up on MangaDex, i'll keep trying to post more soon!

[@caesta7168]

@@CheemsBased Oh, nice. Gonna read them later. And thanks for your hard work, I appreciate it.

[@caesta7168]

@@CheemsBased I would like to once again express my gratitude; I am really enjoying the manga.

[@Zepherr1337]

Hey just FYI just trying to help out the Sazabi is pronounced like Sa-zabi not all one word.

[@icykangaroo]

SEED /SEED Destiny😈 But y'all ain't ready for that talk smh

[@rayskiblagblagan]

If amuro has a weapon like twin buster rifle

[@Andrew-zg5hq]

Chars counter is truly the best gundam movie.

[@SaigaTenshi]

More like the perfect and final story of the entire UC. Seriously, UC timeline is getting boring. No matter how many solution slaps to their faces, still they prefer conflict to war

[@peterlindley9317]

i like war in the pocket!! GUNDAM SERIES - WAR IN THE POCKET!!

[@kevinbaumhoer7359]

Well.Gaia Gear still happens this.Series.ends.the.U.C. Timeline

[@tanathosXX]

No mention of Seed Destiny? Wing? Double 00

[@hi-nu6125]

Another thing that pushed Char over the edge in CCA was what happened to Kamille at the end of Zeta Gundam. After seeing what happened to his student and the events of the Neo Zeon war, I can see how that broke him again and pushed him down the path of no return kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooeYn6qifcqMb7M

[@tedhodge4830]

That clip is from a videogame - Char is floating in space in the wreckage of a Hyaku Shiki after the Zeta TV series which originally aired, and neither ZZ nor CCA ever made mention of Char knowing anything about Kamille's fate. It also makes no sense when you consider that the rest of the crew of the Argama did witness what happened to Kamille, and over the course of ZZ, Kamille is able to run on the beach happily with Fa, and if anything this affected Fa and Judau the most. The videogame you're quoting was made years later. If what happened to Char between the speech at Dakar and his characterization in CCA makes any sense, I don't think it has to do with Kamille. While Quattro takes on the role of mentoring Kamille, he does a good job of remaining impartial and emotionally distant throughout the series with the sole exception of when he sees Mineva Zabi being used as a figurehead by Haman. That's the only time I recall him genuinely breaking his cool and breaking character. I also don't even think he saw anything that happened in the First Neo Zeon War, he was completely omitted from ZZ. His characterization in CCA IMHO really doesn't fit in with his Quattro or MSG iterations TBH.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

To be honest, Gundam 0080, 0080 and 08th MS Team (real ending 11th episode) all have great endings, and among my favorites. Plus no Newtype nonsense to make the endings feel weird. I'm personally torn between 0080 and 0083's endings honestly. I love the dark ending of 0083, but 0080 really is a tear jerker. 08th MS Team if you ignore the 12th episode which was added post production, ie the 11th Episode which is the OVA's real climatic ending episode, it not only has a great climax just before the ending, but really pulls the a fast trick on the viewers for a while, and I like that as well.

[@marcosdheleno]

i hated the nonsensical triangle they pulled out of their ass at last minute to get more drama in 0083, no joke, that thing dropped the enjoyability of the series alot for me. which sucks because i do agree its one of the best gundam stories up to, and after this plot point.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@marcosdheleno To be honest, they kind of hinted at it a few times. Nina seemed to know the name Gato in episode 1/2 can not remember which. Also on Von Braun Nina was definitely suffering some emotional terminal, burying her emotions into her work and her friend openly told her she needs to get over her last relationship, and they never actually state who that was. 0083 seemed to have a number of plot threads that were unfinished, but to be frank I'd rather them say "NOTHING" than throw a bunch of monologue and flashbacks into the show trying to explain things that the viewer has no business knowing. Letting us see events in real time with little interruption so we are genuinely surprised is a better approach even if they never explain everything. We wouldn't have a time machine of a Futurama Professor style Mind reading hat to see the past. To sum it up, if you take the few threads that were given the story of Nine Dating Gato during his time on Von Braun is believable, and not just shoe horned in. It explains why she shuts people out of her personal life and buries herself into her work, knowing she let someone get close to her and he betrayed her. Similar to Al from 0080 she also likely couldn't tell anyone it happened as well, as she'd risk losing her job so no one but her would know. Yet she can not forget about him, even with Kao as a distraction. I'd say in short. People who complain about it, without looking at the broader show are in short petty. Want everything handed to them and spoon fed. Don't like having mystery/unfinished plots in their stories. The same kind of people who forced episode 12 of Gundam 08th MS Team on us despite the 11th being a beautiful ending to the OVA already because 08th MS Team people wanted a more conclusive ending. Onegai Teacher suffered the same fate as well tragically having a beautiful ending episode only to get ruined by another episode that came out later.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Eh only 0080 has an ending as good as the full series. The other OVAs are fine, but not having newtypes doesn’t automatically make something great.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@thomasffrench3639 im in the same mind, i would argue that war in the pocket is THE best gundam story ever told. its short, self contained enough to not require prior knowledge, has great characters, isnt afraid of going dark, and the animation is as good as you can hope for.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@thomasffrench3639 08th MS Team's slap to the face of pacifism wasn't a great ending? Honestly did a better job of it than Gundam Wing did.

[@davidpak271]

War in the pocket

[@donnie5815]

Chars counter attack is my fav gundam movie but Amuro straight destroyed him without trying. Once he took those ships out then focused on him he beasted Char like he was some noob pilot.

[@lorenzobarducci8353]

Really, no one said Turn A? (i.e. the actual "canon" ending, besides being VERY good)

[@lrx2355]

there are few people watching turnA😢

[@karlmueller1980]

well for me, some of my favorite Gangnam endings were gundam wings double oh I not crazy about the ending to a double O Trail Blazers. I think season twos ending should have just cut out the alien plot line that they teased at the end of the movie. Iron blooded orphans double oh I not crazy about the ending to a double O Trail Blazers. I think season twos ending should have just cut out the alien plot line that they teased at the end of the movie.Iron blooded orphans. Unicorn now I also just finished unicorn now I also just finished Gundam NT and I will admit it’s probably not as good as shards counterattack, but I am excited to see where the UC timeline goes after NT. Some of my other favorite gun in the franchise are build fighters and try. But those are just some of my favorite gundam series and endings.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I’ve seen some of those endings and they’re fine, but I think CCA takes the cake. And just so you know, Cheems has mostly seen UC, and not many AUs. Actually I don’t know what AU shows he’s seen.

[@AT_PokemonTCG89]

No endless waltz

[@tech-bore8839]

Seeing the recent "Origin series", I'm still annoyed that they didn't continue on with the original series. I really want to experience the original series, but the outdated animation, music, and dialogue keep me from doing so. It's an odd hangup for such a beloved series I know, but I just couldn't overlook it after getting like 6 episodes in.

[@AndreGomes-vx8by]

Pray for the new gundam film to be successfull, so that they revive it

[@quademasters249]

I really enjoyed "Origin". I can say it's practically the only Gundam I really enjoyed of the later works. The rest were either too kiddy or too stupid. Or like Unicorn, started real strong then petered out.

[@Ryan3d]

The perfect Gundam Ending? : Ideon

[@ProjectShinkai]

My favorite ending is iron blooded orphans

[@kiryu_teh_clown6760]

Unicorn for me

[@tiredidealist]

CCA is the reason I'm not a big fan of Unicorn's conclusion. Basically the same antagonist character arc twice.

[@troloinkto]

9:10 don't forget Aura Battler Dunbine

[@CheemsBased]

still need to finish Dunbine lmao

[@troloinkto]

@@CheemsBased it's the second coming of kill 'em all tomino

[@CheemsBased]

@@troloinkto oh boy

[@UyGon100]

And gundam seed endings

[@wargames2195]

It might be bittersweet, but Victory has the best ending. GALAXY WITH YOU. That or G Gundam for wholesomeness and awesomeness.

[@Mafty_0105]

where can I read Beltochika's children?

[@CheemsBased]

The official release is still being delayed to mid 2023, but there’s a ton of places to read it. Zeonic Scanslations I think has it all.

[@jackthemayor2518]

I thought 00 had a really solid ending and then I watched the sequel movie and that ruins what 00 was building up to. IBO is good but season 2 is missing a lot of context, because age of calamity weapons play such an important in the opening act of season 2, but they only ever talk about it in passing. If Sunrise goes back and gives us an ova about age of calamity this argument becomes bunk. Wing taken as a whole is pretty solid as well. Episode 0 expands on everyone's back story, the true nature of operation meteor, how the scientists wrestled control of the Gundam away from the Bartons, prevented a colony drop scenario and endless waltz further proves how the only way humanity will truly have peace is of humanity loses all taste for war.

[@Maxhunter12]

Gundam wing

[@abp1400]

Turn A

[@dorianlain1372]

Never seen Turn A?

[@CheemsBased]

haven't finished it yet, I'm about half way through it

[@UyGon100]

Mine is 8th ms teams ending...

[@thejasonator9244]

I've always liked 0083 Stardust Memory