The Perfect Home Server 2023 - 48TB, 4x 2.5Gbit LAN, 18W, Quiet & Compact

[@WolfgangsChannel]

To try everything Brilliant has to offer-free-for a full 30 days, visit brilliant.org/Wolfgang/ . The first 200 of you will get 20% off Brilliant’s annual premium subscription. CORRECTION: Wireguard doesn't utilize AES, so it won't benefit from AES-NI. However, other VPN technologies like OpenVPN and IPSEC will benefit from it. ✅ PARTS LIST: Motherboard www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-n5105-nas-motherboard.html NOTE: The version with a green PCB and a PCIe x2 slot comes with a different, more efficient SATA controller that supports ASPM Example: aliexpress.com/item/1005006412213295.html Pay attention to the SATA chip, it should say "ASMedia": share.goose.party/api/shares/g5MjM1N/files/b6108f3f-26d5-4e97-be7c-c3270654d8d2?download=false RAM geni.us/6iSd1 (Amazon) Case geni.us/YzL4S (Amazon) PSU geni.us/MzBSV (Amazon) Hard drives geni.us/BcSW (Amazon) SSDs geni.us/kQa8pH (Amazon) Boot SSDs geni.us/DLg36k (Amazon) M.2 to SATA adapter: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005669800665.html SATA cables www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001488421222.html ✅ OTHER LINKS: "Power consumption of Ryzen 5000 Series CPUs" hattedsquirrel.net/2020/12/power-consumption-of-ryzen-5000-series-cpus/ Noctua NF-A20 geni.us/Jss7 (Amazon) Power button geni.us/wbYoCBu (Amazon) 200mm Fan mod by pixelwave www.printables.com/model/137181-200mm-fan-front-for-fractal-node-304/files 6x SSD Mount by diofantino: www.thingiverse.com/thing:5243073

[@smorrow]

1:12 Those were the real numbers only.

[@Gamer4Eire]

Hey Wolfgang, could explain more how you fitted the new fan and grill? i got the same grill 3D printed but then realized there is a fair bit if metal to be cut and cables redundant.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

@@Gamer4Eire Check out the separate video about this case mod that I've made

[@Gamer4Eire]

@@WolfgangsChannel thanks Wolfgang. I have the angle grinder ready :)

[@hireconor]

The Corsair RM550x (2021) PCU is scarce in the US. Are there any comps available in the US? I got the new N100 board, but can't find a PCU for it. Great channel Wolfgang!

[@marklewus5468]

9 month update. You can now get i3-n305 eight core motherboards similar to the one you bought. The i3 has 2 1/2 times the performance of the N5105 at the cost of another 3-5 W (idle). Still no ECC (thanks, Intel). A choice with ecc and graphics is an AMD ryzen 7 pro 4750G w/ B550 motherboard. The motherboards are under $100 but used 4750G chips are around US $100 because they were sold only into the OEM market.

[@marcinneuman8283]

Great video! The only thing I'd like to hear more is the C-states problem and ASPM support. How to check it, how to hunt for problematic components, how to set up BIOS, etc. I've watched this one and the previous (23W server) one looking for the answers. It looks like you know more about this than you share in those videos. Maybe you think it's not interesting/boring for us - but it's is an interesting topic! I'd love to see a separate video about it. I know every system is different and it's hard to show something really universal - but something to show us where to start would be awesome!

[@lcdo]

Make +1 for this. Not boring and yes definitively interresting !

[@baswazz]

I agree would be nice if you could make a video on this topic.

[@dennis9322]

I totally agree, struggling with unraid at said topic

[@1337kaas]

Try installing latest microcode for the n5105. It helped me with a similar cstates issue

[@kevinhu196]

@@dennis9322 I believe there is a very detailed Unraid guide on their forum about tweaking power consumption. I would also want a video about C state and ASPM, but not limited to Unraid, as a lot of people includng me use Proxmox, or bare Debian/Ubuntu linux for their home server. I was able to figure out C state by unplugging and disabling things in the BIOS, a lot of trial and error, and I came to the conclusion that my SATA controller is causing problem when CPU tries to enter more than C7s, so I set the max-c-state to C7

[@bamx23]

That moment when a youtuber who inspired you on (re)building the home server and use Ansible actually uses the motherboard that you've bought for a new server several weeks ago!

[@vanhoeppen]

Hello-hello-hello! :-) May I ask something? I have tried to find the MoBo brand Wolfgang mentions at 1:33 but l only was able to find sources like Aliexpress or the likes... Truth be told, I'm a little conflicted about those... Is there no other way to purchase those boards?

[@gabbieblue]

i have very limited supplies for my homelab, so seeing someone who actually knows what theyre doing run it all on one machine would be super helpful :D

[@1337kaas]

He's running it on one machine. What more do you want?

[@gabbieblue]

@@1337kaas to see things actually run on the server? this video does not at any point say that he is running everything on one machine, its just a build video i commented because i only have one machine available to me, and would like to see someone run an entire homelab from one machine because it would be an interesting option for me

[@1337kaas]

@@gabbieblue Ah like thay. At 5:53 you can see he's running unRAID with all his Docker containers. You could actually do everything with one box, look for proxmox. It's basically a management layer over KVM (+Qemu). I have it running with opnsense as a router as VM on the same board as this (n5105 cpu). You can do pci passthrough to passthrough the network interfaces individually to the proxmox VM. You could run multiple other containers with pihole and such as you like. And maybe add a VM as a docker host. The downside of doing everything on one host is that everything goes down when you have hardware issues or need to reboot for maintenance. If you have more questions, go ahead and ask

[@gabbieblue]

@@1337kaas i do know that its possible, i just think an in-depth video showcase would be neat i am working on all that myself but im using snapraid and mergerfs since i dont have enough of similar sized drives for an actual raid array, and yeah the downside isnt great and i would like a separate machine for at least the router, but ill see what i can get

[@1337kaas]

@@gabbieblue I definitely agree, that would be very nice. However, there are so many solutions for that problem. But an insight in how someone else solved it would be nice for sure 😃

[@jakebezzina6729]

Awesome video! I just built my first NAS (Unraid) this week out of a free used i3-8100 m-ITX PC after watching a few of your videos. It would be super helpful if you were to make a video about the initial set up of containers, VMs, and cache configs for both beginners and experienced hobbyists.

[@RealAndyOriginal]

What mini itx board did you use?

[@jakebezzina6729]

@@RealAndyOriginal Gigabyte B360N WIFI-CF m-ITX. It came with the system I got, but it serves me well enough... you don't need ECC ram anyways.

[@ovalsquare]

7 months later, how are you liking unraid? I’m looking into making an unraid server ( nas, plex, game servers )

[@millomaker]

Very impressive the low power consumption ! Nice video, a lot of good information, thanks man :)

[@petermarin]

This is great. Can you make a video and continue this with the OS/ software/ configuration side of this build? It’d be so helpful to see an end to end, replicable process. You’re a great educator.

[@finlaymartins272]

Ditto!

[@paulbckr]

would be cool

[@NaRCSalty]

That would be great, this is my first NAS and i am just replicating as best i can I am just so lost right now.

[@timeltdme4355]

there are guides for that already, installing proxmox allows you to install whatever you want in virtual machines

[@M4XD4B0ZZ]

I wanted to buy this board but someone said it's not really beginner friendly. I have nothing against a steep learning curve but i am scared this board will not be supported and i can not find a community to talk to when i have problems with it

[@otter-pro]

This is such a thorough and well-researched video... I could tell that a lot of work went to making this video. That motherboard is now on my to-buy list. Thanks

[@mebeingme947]

Great video!! I went like 2 month ago with a smilar board...having 1 nvme and slightly cheaper, also with 32Gb ram :). The only thing I modded was cpu cooler, didn't like that one and went with a aluminium coolingblock which I had to modify, but runs now completely passive. from what I've seen is that WD drives generally are better at powerconsumption ...so went with those just the 5400 rpm's red plus. Over the moon with it, it handles everything I throw at it. For PSU Sharkoon Silent Storm 500 , which is also quiet power efficient at low power. Currently with 4 drives and possibilities to expand.

[@fredform]

Can you share some details of the cooling block mod? Thinking along those lines myself

[@Buddinski88]

Thanks for the suggestion Wolfgang! I was not quite satisfied with the solution regarding the front, so I drew something of my own. Can also be found on printables "Fractal Node 304 better cooling front cover Mod" 🙂

[@IMDee]

@WolfgangsChannel. Thank you very much for the video. I've been waiting for a video like this for a long time. I am going to try the build you're suggesting and see how it goes :). I have, however, ran into a roadblock. I can't find the PSU anywhere. Do you have any alternatives that have a similar IDLE load efficiency ? Power consumption is really important to me too Thanks again for all your work

[@MasterCommander3]

Hahaha thanks for including the ECC disclaimer. Awesome work as always! Love this type of content even if I have a full rack with enterprise gear.

[@REGameFly]

Is ECC not that important anymore?

[@REGameFly]

I might get a MS-01 as a server then.

[@Blond501]

In regards of Memory: Please be aware that higher Memory can lead into instability! I had really to struggle with two N5105 Boards which crashed a lot of times until I went down from 64 GB RAM to 16 GB RAM. And the DIMM Modules weren't the issues! I swapped them completely

[@szaszm_]

You could also try to slightly increase the memory voltage, or decrease the clock speed, if the memory is not stable. The advertised XMP speeds are often not achievable or not stable on some CPUs or motherboards, especially at higher capacities. Recent Intel CPUs are usually better in this regard than AMD ones.

[@Blond501]

@@szaszm_ it was running at 2866 MHz, so no xmp etc

[@szaszm_]

@@Blond501 You could try XMP voltage with JEDEC clocks for maximum stability. It's typically 1.1V by default (JEDEC), and 1.35V in XMP mode, but some DIMMs are different. I'm pretty sure 1.35V is not enough to damage any DDR4 chips.

[@Lann91]

Catching an incompatible memory stick early on with memtest is really a great suggestion. I learned it a hard way.

[@Khoukharev]

What do you think would be the best replacement for Corsair rm550x (PSU)? These aren't available at all in my region

[@NLRevZ]

What a coincidence! I built a *very* similar machine a while ago but with a second revision of the other board you mentioned that has the separate PCIe slot. I'm running a 5-port SATA card off of that, combined with the six ports on the mainboard itself (across two SATA controllers) and an NVMe slot for a cache drive I stuffed all of that, a 120mm rear exit fan, a 2TB 3.5" parity drive and ten 2.5" 1TB unused old stock hard drives I had laying around all into a gutted-out HP MicroServer Gen8 case, utilizing the original four caddy bays with three dual 2.5"-to-3.5" caddy adapters and the 3.5" in the fourth slot. Three of the remaining four 2.5" drives hang off 3D-printed brackets on each of the sides (one on the left, two on the right) and one of them sits in a fake slimline CD drive-to-2.5" drive caddy in place of the original optical drive. I don't have any issues with power regulation while running Unraid, though that's only because I set all of the CPU power limit levels back to the Intel recommended settings. CPU power wise, the N5105 is perfectly adequate for running my Unifi controller, a one-way incremental backup, some read-only SMB shares for accessibility to part of the folders and a remote WOL tool. It's not on 24/7; Only when I plan on accessing the data, doing a backup (once weekly) or modifying anything about the Unifi settings do I boot it up so it's more than economical enough to me. File transfers are more than fine across a single 2.5GbE link to my local network; I frequently get near or just over 2Gbps while transferring large files which of course dumps into the 256GB NVMe cache drive before Unraid moves it into the slower permanent storage. I replaced the FlexATX proprietary server PSU in the machine with a 250W Seasonic FlexATX unit that dropped right in, runs semi-fanless and it's right in its sweet spot for efficiency while a backup runs. TL;DR I built a machine quite like this, very low-power, sparsely powered on but I'm in love with how compact it is and it serves (hah) all of the purposes I had for it. 🙂 Great video, I enjoyed seeing how differently a similar machine can be used!

[@l33t00r]

Can you tell me your SATA controller card model? Because I've tried 5 different ones so far and all sucked (failed, errors, etc.)

[@ra4design]

I built this using the Jonsbo N1 case. The case fan pinout is only 3 pins and the case fan runs at 100% all the time. The BIOS has settings for PWM, but it's confusing since there are only 3 pins on the motherboard. I tried to change the settings, but to no avail: The fan keeps running at 100% and quite loud. Are you able to control the RPM of the case fan?

[@JamesMyatt1]

Closest equivalent prebuilt is probably TERRAMASTER F4-423 4-Bay NAS which has N5095 CPU, 4GB DDR4 Memory upgradable, 2x 2.5GbE. And allows (unofficial) bring your own OS. So it's slightly lower spec but cheaper smaller, and lower power too (probably). Lots of youtubers, like Hardware Haven and apalrd have done Videos on this (or similar). But personally I'm waiting for the 12th versions (e.g. N100).

[@marcinneuman8283]

This is what I'm eyeing also, but in 2 bay version (F2-423). Perfect for me, because I can fit all my (important) data and docker containers on 2TB. So I can have relatively inexpensive 2TB NVME Raid 1 and supplement this with RAID 1 with 2.5" HDDs in that 2 bays for all other uninportant stuff. I'm currently on ASROCK j3455 and it's plenty of computing power (for my needs). For me RAM is more important - 16GB is ok for now, but just barely, so terramaster + 32GB would be perfect.

[@redge76]

@@marcinneuman8283 you can also choose the asustor AS6702T (or AS6704T) with a N5105 CPU. I'm currently running ADM (asustor NAS solution)on it, but it's is a complete mess. This soft is a shame. So I will now install unraid.

[@jdmji]

Waiting for my orange pi 5 plus to use as a home server. 32 GBs of ram, 4tb m2 ssd of storage, wifi 6, 8 cores and only 3.3-7.3 watts consumption 😊 Super tiny and passively cooled 🎉

[@Thewickedjon]

i've come back and re-watched this video so many times..... every time I re-wach it, I understand something new lololol you did such a great job editing and explaining things.

[@Thewickedjon]

I would get this board and pair it with a jonsbo case. put truenas scale in it, and try to virtualize pfsense , do you think it's possible?

[@Bubatu7]

That front panel is badass

[@Ilost11]

It's a shame you went with the Celeron 5105 just as the new intel N95. N100, N200 and N300 released. The N100 has up to a 50% performance uplift over the 5105 depending on the workload while using the same amount of power, DDR5, has AV1 decode support and AVX support (5105 doesn't) while having around the same MSRP. The only advantage the 5105 has is dual channel memory while the N100 is locked to single channel DDR5 only to a current max of a single 32gb DDR5 SODIMM (potentially now a single 48gbs but this configuration needs to be tested). With some tuning some users were able to squeak out another 5% - 15% in performance. Despite being released in Q1 2023, we're only now seeing some OEMs release embedded motherboards, but mini pcs and fanless x86 router PCs are already on market. It's the huge upgrade in lower power x86 computing other than being limited to single channel only which I suspect will be lifted with newer iterations of this design.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

That's actually amazing! As @FaceAndSurface mentioned in another comment, Topton is allegedly going to release an N300 version soon, so I'll definitely review that when it comes out

[@NicodemPL]

But when and where to find motherboard only with N200/300? Also price - N300 is like 130$ alone.

[@ali8essam]

​@@WolfgangsChannelThey released N100 and N305 motherboards already, but a bit more pricey

[@Itsfranklyfrank]

Keen on the next upload of this build. That last “what’s on my server” video was a year ago. Keep up the great content thankyou

[@clomads]

What an unexpected crossover with the Contrapoints refs.

[@8xwlG3ZH9fo1mBVI]

Wolfgang please listen to the comments. we need a followup with OS and software configuration.

[@Kadranos]

No ECC for my storage is a deal breaker. My literal autism just can't cope with that scenario.

[@Silentguy_]

Lmao it’s the opposite for me because my wallet can’t cope with the price of ECC memory

[@Kadranos]

@@Silentguy_ I picked up a 4 UDIMM 32gb ECC 2400MHz DDR4 kit for $64 in May 2022. Deals are out there if you're patient and look.

[@pikaskew]

Just a heads up on shucking external drives, manufacturers are increasingly using USB integrated control boards instead USB to internal SATA adapters. Newer WD Elements/Passport drives, some Seagate Backup drives and Samsung portable SSDs. Always research the drive to make sure it can be shucked.

[@craigprocter1232]

A good article, thank you. I've been running HP n36l microservers with DSM 5 for the past oh.. 11 years at least, but recently decided to replace one of them with an intel N5095 NAS motherboard (12 sata ports natively, 2x 1Gbe) in a Jonsbo N3 case. I'm impressed so far with it's responsiveness and performance, though the N3 is very loud (mainly because it has more ventilation holes than structural integrity). I will be modding the motherboard to replace the high speed (4500+ rpm) fan on the Intel CPU heatsink with a larger, slower fan blowing air over it.. that should help a bit to quieten it. I've subscribed as you're one of the first NAS youtuber's I've encountered who would even mention running DSM on a PC - so have my subscription and upvotes.

[@tommeier1888]

Hey man love this video and the contrapoints references are huge green flags ❤ keep it coming!

[@Stoney_Eagle]

Bought 6 8TB WD red pro drives 3 weeks ago, still in the resilvering process to replace the old smr drives 😢 if only I knew back then to buy CMR drives. BUT I didn't loose a single file while the drives are on their way to heaven. Hooray for ZFS!

[@timeltdme4355]

fun to see, i had computer in the same case with Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB ram, WD Gold 6TB and Samsung 980 PRO, Seasonic Core GM-500, unfortunately the MB was some Asus with just one M2, one gigabit and one pcie16, which also led to selling it, however the faster processor speed was very useful, power consumption idle was higher, great to see this segment evolving, wishing many people will try Proxmox! was running Ubuntu server 2 thread (samba), Ubuntu server 8 thread (gcc) and 2 thread pfsense "on a stick" with vlans into 24port switch, was fun, but i switched to usbc T7 ssds and Jottacloud, due to larger media nature of my work curious how the file backup management evolves, might do another server in some years

[@aliancemd]

That motherboard is a steal. At ~100-150 euros, it's crazy that it has 4x new Intel I226-V 2.5G eth ports, besides having all the other stuff on it. Also, on a side note: love that it's all blacked out. I don't need any of this but at that price and power draw, makes you curious(could replace some things, even just a router).

[@vali20vali20vali20]

Well, someone at work bought a couple of these 4-bay Synology NAS thingies without consulting at first, so of course I was pissed off when I wanted to build Proxmox Backup Servers for the main server rigs and found out we had all these hardware sitting unused because of the OS they shipped with. How it went down: I soldered an HDMI connector to the pads on the board, that way you get video out and can actually install an OS. The UEFI program on the thing is crippled, not all settings in the menu map to the correct place in the NVRAM, so first I recommend firing up DSM and making the settings in there, like auto power on etc. As far as I remember from doing this mod, the UEFI has Secure Boot forced and only boots Synology images. I had to set it to “Legacy” first, and that allowed booting up things in BIOS mode. Unfortunately, it can only boot things connected to the internal USB port where the Synology DOM is attached. The Symology DOM is just a 120MB USB 2.0 pen drive with a different connector. So you can boot things using that port, install to drives connected to the NVMe ports, but can only boot again from USB. I got around that by installing Proxmox Backup Server this way, and then backing up their DOM and flashing it with a custom buildroot image I made which boots up a minimal Linux with LVM support that then mounts the NVMe drive where Proxmox is installed and kexecs it (thank God this facility exists). At first, I tried chainloading using a couple of traditional bootloaders, like grub, but none of them worked, none could ‘see’ the NVMe drives at that stage. It was strange, because booting full Linux, as I said, that ‘sees’ the drives and can work with them just fine, so yeah, in the end I boot Linux and from there boot again another Linux basically. Linux (unlike Windows) doesn’t complain if the boot disk is formatted GPT and you boot in BIOS mode, it just works, so the Proxmox main NVMe drives are of course GPT formatted. In the end, the USB DOM acts as a bootloader. To have the hard drives spin up, I soldered resistances across the power supplies ICs on the daughter board, and similarly for the USB ports. These ICs probably allow for fine grained control of the ports from DSM, but for my use case I want them always on. The control is connected to GPIO as far as I remember, so theoretically one could write scripts to power on/off stuff in there, but I did not bother. In the end, you have to desolder the HDMI port in order to fit the thing back in the case. It was a fun project, definitely a hacking vibe. I run 2 of these in production, zero issues, one as a backup located closely to the main server, one off site. I can even do Proxmox updates, as my boot script in buildroot sorts Linux kernel images and always boots the newest one, basically allowing for updates. The hardware is aesthetically pleasant and takes few space and makes low noise, so I think going through the effort was well worth the outcome, if not only for the challenge of figuring out a way around it. But yeah, pretty locked down, as you mentioned in the video.

[@mevans4953]

Ever since Linus’s channel died, I’ve been getting recommended quality content like yours. Glad to see it and keep up the great work!

[@edhahaz]

Good info I omitted when building a home NAS. You pretty much have golden content here

[@asineth832]

Tailscale/WireGuard don't use AES/AES-NI, instead they use ChaCha20/Poly1305 for encryption instead. I think the reasoning behind it is that it's faster when there's no acceleration (like ARM devices for example).

[@laurentlafayette]

Hey @WolfgangsChannel, Wireguard does not use AES so AES-NI is of no use to it. Wireguard uses ChaCha20-Poly1305 which is faster than AES even in processors that support AES-NI.

[@trackerkan]

The CPU used in this build is not supported by MongoDB from version 5.0 on. If the Docker containers you plan on running on this server required it, you should go with a different motherboard/CPU.

[@grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgr]

A video on how to tweak the bios on this board would be really helpful. Can you maybe provide some help hier? Wäre auf jeden Fall sehr nice. :D

[@nagi603]

Node 304: Unfortunately cable management is a nightmare with it. So modular is a must. And my first one had some paint in the tray standoff holes. Regarding enterprise drives: I'm still a bit uneasy with helium, after leakage stories of the first gens mostly. Shucked drives may require some modification to work. So beware.

[@l33t00r]

I never understand how people like the Node case so much, its just average. On the other hand, a real good mini NAS enclosure for 8-10 drives still doesn't exists.

[@PatrikKron]

@@l33t00rI haven’t seen anything like it. I went with the Node 804 (much larger). It’s okay, but I would have liked the drives to be dampend a bit more. And the fan filters to be accessable without putting the computer on a table with the front hanging over the edge.

[@JAFOpty]

I ran into an issue with a Shucked drive. The disk wouldn't start when using a regular power supply SATA cable. I had to use a Molex output of the PSU, with a Molex to SATA converter, then it started spinning. This is because the HDDs used on USB drives are different from the OEM ones, specifically the power pins of the drive itself. So just keep this in mind! :)

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Be careful about molex to SATA cables - the ones that have cables go directly into the plastic molding are dangerous. Instead, you can cover certain pins on the drive with a kapton tape

[@christianlink1817]

Molex to sata lose all your data

[@jamalanderson5342]

Server build video #459 What did we learn... Those Sata cables lowkey useful 👍

[@thatzaliasguy]

Overjoyed to see that SimCity 2000 T-shirt lol

[@praharadar]

I'm loving the ssd bracket for the node 304. It's my favorite small pc case that can actually house regular sized hardware and I searched long and hard for a white second hand one (couldn't find one new even if I wanted to spend on it). My personal home server uses a Biostar B550 mitx board which has a vertical M.2 slot intended for a wifi card, but I put a 2 port sata controller there to have a few more than the 4 that are onboard. I could've gotten a bigger M.2 sata card for the normal ssd slot but I didn't want to give up on having the m.2 as a cache device, maybe now that I know about that bracket I will revisit the setup and use a few sata ssds instead because my cache is both small and not redundant. I'm running an old second hand psu and according to unraid the idle load is about 70W (edit: this is ups load which includes my whole network stack with a total of 9 devices) so not great exactly, but I think it's not bad considering this is my first ever server. I'm in the Czech Republic so parts availability of similar mitx boards and adapters is often quite bad. Great video!

[@bobbed]

Holy shit a Contrapoints reference. My worlds collided.

[@rekaicampbell]

Would love to see an all in one homeland,Nas, router setup you talked about

[@JasperK1988]

What is an alternative for the Corsair RM550x, no shop has it anymore. Seasonic Prime Fanless PX-450?

[@laurikvo]

Would like to know also more options regarding this topic. Information about PSU idle power efficiency around 10-50W load is really hard to find.

[@walterk.6361]

I have the same question and am also stuck on the Seasonic Prime Fanless PX-450 - or the CoolerMaster V550 GOLD - V2. But I have not been able to find an efficiency curve for either at about 10% and lower power.

[@namesurname4666]

Seasonic G12 GC 650 W?

[@Dongdot123]

It's crazy how those components in my country are so expensive they're no longer low cost option 😂

[@cyberlord64]

If only i had seen this before getting a synology nas... 😢

[@kidsythe]

I mean there is brand new Seagate drives for about $10 a terabyte. I have recently purchased it. Seagate EXOs x16 14 TB variants for $189 on New egg. I understand that these were on sale but they go on sale about every 2 months because that's whenever I can afford to buy a new one.

[@sphelx]

Regarding the plummeting prices of NVME and SATA SSD's - The chip industry had worse than expected sales from bad PC and smartphone sales, consequently it's dropping the prices of NVME/SATA as the chips all go there instead.

[@NerderousRage]

So glad I came across your videos. Currently working on moving my personal use nas to a node 304 case. Just need to find a power efficient board with a pcie slot as I have sas drives.

[@bejeweld]

I absolutely love the custom printed front panel. So clean!

[@EfeArda1991]

I recently bought a Orico HS500 Metabox Pro. It also has N5105 and amibios so I can run Debian and CasaOS on it. I was hoping to upgrade the RAM, I am considering 64GB if it really like you mentioned!

[@YTDIMIR]

Thanks for the inspiration! I'll try to copy that build and was actually able to grab the exact power supply and case 2nd from Kleinanzeigen. Now just waiting for the board to arrive..

[@WobblycogsUk]

Before I added HDD's I was getting about 16W idle from my server based around a 5600G, these chips are great.

[@temyraverdana6421]

Wow, amazing project. Thanks a lot for share it

[@sgoolgekonto5015]

any good to go alternative for the Corsair RM550x 550 (2021)?

[@sgoolgekonto5015]

Seasonic Focus PX 550W ATX 2.4 ?

[@strangelman]

I would soooo love asmr pc build videos with ultra chill music in the background, no speech :)

[@Cinghia117]

i just assembled a Nas with unRAID, as base i used a erying mini itx with i7 12700h, 32 GB of RAM 3200mhz, 6 hdd wd red, 1 nvme SSD, controller m.2 to 6 SATA Asmedia ASM 1166, Intel nic 4 ports gigabit and 120 watt Pico psu. At idle it consumes between 20 and 24 watts, this with hdd in sleep and without ASPM support or unlocked c-state packages. If there was a way to enable them with a modified bios it could probably save another 10 watts. For virtualization everything works fine and also supports iommu

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Yep, afaik the more expensive 12th gen boards support virtualization, but I haven’t seen any confirmed reports on the 11th gen

[@maxirunpl]

I don't know much about the servers. What is the difference between making a server and just putting a lot od SSD storage to my existing pc and holding things there? Taking into consideration that my pc can run 24/7

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Conceptually - none. A home server is nothing but a computer that is on 24/7 and that runs services. The difference is in details

[@etherboy3540]

The key to having a power-wasting homelab is to set it up as soon as you move in. i have a 12u wallmount rack full of routers and switches along with 3 esxi boxes and a truenas nas with 8 3.5 drive bays. my wife is like "holy crap our power bill is $500." I live in Florida so I just shrug and blame it on global warming. i honestly don't know how much my homelab contributes to the power bill but i'm sure it's significant.

[@etherboy3540]

about ecc, i have to agree that you are correct. on the other hand my personal workstation is ecc as are all of the servers in my homelab

[@Rel0CK]

Was hast du mir nur angetan! Ich war "relativ" zufrieden mit meiner Synology Kartoffel (DS415+). Aber jetzt, nachdem ich weiß, dass sie ca. 30 Watt im Idle zieht, kann ich nicht mehr ruhig schlafen. Dabei habe ich momentan nur zwei HDDs verbaut. Den meisten Platz benötigen bei mir die Filme und Serien. Wenn ich Jellyfin auslagern würde, könnte ich versuchen, ein Thinclient NAS zu bauen ... wäre da nur nicht das Problem, das die meist keine zwei M2 Anschlüsse haben. Ich fürchte, dass ich hier am Anfang einer langen Reise bin...

[@u_look_pretty_today]

The little Life is Strange reference is so cute :O It made me happy :> tysm

[@Nilex2140]

case looks fab with the custom front panel and fan

[@ShlomiGreenPhotography]

So much work went in to building this server, then I'm sure it was at least 5x more work into making this video :) It was super informational and a pleasure to watch, thanks for sharing the build! I've subbed to your channel, great content!

[@GameCyborgCh]

those PicoPSU are kinda neat and sure their DC to DC conversion is very efficient but you rely on the laptop powerbrick to efficiently convert AC to 12V DC

[@egzonhasanaj7209]

You didnt talk to much about the software you used in it ..we need an update ..a review after usage.. how you use it and its limitations in your use

[@krekas]

So the PSU rm550x can't be find, at least in my country, to be bought. Any alternatives to it?

[@segarallychampionship702]

the "grub" post combined with my 2012 laptop with switchable graphics experience sent me

[@ej.xxxx_]

6:17 Nostalgic Life is Strange reference!

[@EngineerK]

Who is the manufacturer of these boards and what about BIOS updates / technical support?

[@IanDresarie]

Insane how some prices have come down while others are skyrocketing. I'll probably get this board for my custom router, with 4 2.5GB ports it literally has everything I'D want and costs less then half of the comparable FritzBox.

[@mpxz999]

You're good at explaining things. I understood a lot and I really appreciate how you explain why you made each of your choices when comparing to other alternatives. The entire price breakdown was also really appreciated. You're wonderful Thank you very much for this

[@dextercool]

I've just got into home server / data mirroring/ personal cloud so more stuff for complete newbies would be good.

[@tobiabocchi9102]

Hey! Awesome content! I love this kind of videos!! One observation: I read online that only sata 1-5 are handled by the culprit (jmb sata controller) I think it would be interesting to see the power consumption if you used the 5x sata expansion over m.2 and only the sata0 port, maybe this way you could enable asmp and use the lower c states. You'd loose one m2 but still have 6 sata total

[@WolfgangsChannel]

That was my first idea, but unfortunately, short of unsoldering the controller from the board, there's not much we can do. It can't be disabled in the BIOS

[@TheRizalp]

this is a great, practical build for home nas thanks!

[@wohfab]

Build montage sound reminds me of Yosi Horikawa's "Letter". Awesome sound choice!

[@матвейлапушинский]

Its crazy how overkil 550wwat psu is for this build. And even more crazy how it makes sense economically.

[@gi2ld4s67]

Very nice home server 4.0 ! Can we expect an video about unraid drive (pool, docker, flash) drive configuration ?

[@SueMyChin]

Thumbs up for including drive costs though it should have been asterisk at the start too.

[@MartinKL]

Great video. Very good production and detail. Thank you

[@babad00k]

Thanks a lot for this video Wolfgang, it inspired me to create my own NAS. Do you have any suggestion to reduce the HDD vibrations within the Fractal case?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

The case already has rubber washers to reduce vibrations, but I guess that you can add more, and see what happens

[@hexagon88-miller14]

Running unraid for 5 years now non-ECC,/consumer hardware /ryzen 3700x 32GB RAM + dGPU GTX 1070 (only one GPU but managed to PCIe-pass-trough to VM anyway without a iGPU in the CPU). never had any data corrupted. it's way overpowered and i don't really use it now (the power, unraid running 24/7 with hosted hompages, nextcloud, Databases, etc.pp.) but VM's for game stream i literally not used them at all (a shame i know). now thinking of downgrading the array back to my old J3455 board (supports official only 8GB Ram but also have 16GB installed) for power saving purpose as it could server all those things i really use with way less power (now i am at 130W [okay, it's what the UPS displays that which also backs up the router) idle in the ryzen build :-O ) i guess i can get back to around 20-30watts in idle with the J3455.

[@hillecloud]

Ah, Danke aber das Mainboard macht mit fertig.. ich hab es mit grünem PCB hier liegen und Unraid macht nur Probleme... entweder ist der RAM nicht kompatibel.. oder die CPU hin... Es piepst manchmal beim booten wild... dann gab es BTRFS Fehler, dann ZFS Ausstiege mit Space Map 405 Error obwohl ich noch auf die Shares komme... dann hat mal Core 1 und 3 volle Auslastung von 100%, dann mal nur Core 4... es macht mich verrückt.. ich nehm jetzt das N100M von Asrock und hoffe dann, dass es bessert wird :-D Das nur mal als kurzer Kommentar von mir :-D

[@mikew642]

WD Red Drives claim to all be CMR. These will be all CMR drives in all capacities (1TB, 2TB, 3TB, 4TB, 6TB, 8TB, 10TB, 12TB, and 14TB). The WD Plus is aimed at more write-intensive workloads such as ZFS, and is aimed at SOHO-SMB. The WD Red Pro remains unchanged, just with the clarification that the line is all CMR. Jun 24, 2020

[@WolfgangsChannel]

I'm talking about WD Elements drives in the video, not WD Red

[@jolness1]

Jesus 35c/kWh is crazy. No wonder power efficiency is so important. We pay around 5 here after all fees and such

[@kwazar6725]

Wow.. we pay 40 cents per kwh

[@maigork]

What is the difference between Topton nas board and industrial board with similar layout that is cheaper at AliExpress if anyone can explain me please

[@yoshika.kuzunoha]

A lot of Seagate External HDD of high capacity actually have Exos drives in them as well.

[@WolffyLP]

Nice video! I build a similar Nas on my own. But I have problems to find an efficient PSU. The RM550 is nowhere available. Any tips for an alternate PSU?

[@yannismarle7797]

Bro the video of the guy yelling at the JBODS sent the shit out of me lmao, i was so not ready to that old freaking classic

[@ryand920]

Any option to add a good graphics card for gaming or does that require a separate pc build?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

This motherboard doesn’t have a PCIE x16 slot, so I’d personally pick something else

[@marshallb5210]

What I never see brought up in these tiny builds is thin mini-itx motherboards, they're single voltage (gigabyte boards accept a wide range) and can run off a laptop power adapter so you don't have to dick around with expensive PSU's for a 20 watt load.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Those aren't great for a NAS, since you need to power hard drives as well. AFAIK the only DC-powered motherboard with more than 3 SATA power outputs is Asrock C246 WSI

[@kanutomay]

Excellent video, thanks for sharing

[@poppipo1222]

I love these vids, always a cool and new solution Ive never heard of before. Inching towards pulling the plug on a similar nasboard, but I found one from topton with a PCIE 4x (2x wired) instead of a second m.2 slot. Still has the n5105, recon itd be good for a backup NAS? My main NAS has ECC, so I prefer using that as the "main" one.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Yes, the green board with PCIe x2 is actually better, since it has a different, more power efficient SATA controller

[@poppipo1222]

@@WolfgangsChannel + its cheaper, great when I have to pay fat import taxes. Cheers for the quick reply 😀

[@kitsunesuzuka1029]

Is this the anyrevo one?

[@Chris.Brisson]

Excellent info and production. You have a new subscriber.

[@santa1423]

Looking forward to your 2024 version.

[@marklewus5468]

I liked your build but I do think the comparison with Synology was a bit apples and oranges. The 1621+ is faster & supports 10gbe (via pcie) & hot swap. It has one warranty, works out of the box, and my grandma can set it up. There’s someone to call if you have HW or SW issues. With home servers, I think you have to consider how much tinkering you’re willing to do - value of your time - vs. how much software freedom / $ savings you want.

[@kongoulan]

But you can't setup your own OS there.

[@PGXX8]

Hi Wolfgang, just found your channel and immediately subscribed. High quality content in a dense format. Like it. Concerning your built: Which drives have you connected to the m.2 SATA adapter? As the m2 slot has barely 1MB/s bandwidth, it wouldn’t make much sense to connect multiple SSDs. Thus I'm debating whether it makes more sense to just put a 4 GB NVME in each M.2 slot, ditch the m.2 SATA adapter and add an additional HD instead.